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Omega Men Storytime

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Got into this series recently and wanted to run the series so far.
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>>78254076
Starting with the sneak peek.
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>>78254090
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one piece is shit
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>>78254102
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delicious 3 by 3s
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>>78254127
>>78254104
Okay.
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>>78254153
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>>78254167
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sweet
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>>78254178
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Excellent.
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>>78254189
I'm not sure if it was a good or a bad marketing move to tweak the Kyle Rayner fans this hard, but it made for some hilarious internet rage.
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>>78254208
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Praise be Omega

you are doing gods work op
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>>78254224
Issue one!
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>>78254239
>>78254228
No problem, thanks for reading and keeping the thread bumped.
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>>78254266
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>>78254208
Probably bad, unfortunately

A lot of Kyle fans don't like how he's treated in the book so saying the Omega Men killed him made them not want to read it, and a lot of Kyle fans didn't even know he was in the book

Only a very small percent of them have any taste, apparently
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>>78254285
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so good, too bad Kylefags hate it because he's no longer a darling snowflake
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>>78254300
Yeah, I think if they'd marketed it more as "Kyle and the Omega Men" it might have lasted longer.
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>>78254334
>>78254329
I don't know how anyone liked Mary Sue Kyle, this is the book that made me stop hating him.
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>>78254208
Depends on where you ask. On CBR, where characterfags are very prevalent, they hate it, because he should be the GREAT LANTERN EVER.

On Reddit, Kyle fans were rooting for him to die, because they were tired of the White Lantern bullshit. So they were disappointed when he was still alive. Then issue #2 dropped with the mirror scene, and they were shocked and happy to see a well-written Kyle once again.
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>>78254364
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>>78254377
Wouldn't have expected reddit to be the place with taste. CBR is always terrible.
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>>78254410
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>>78254334
>Yeah, I think if they'd marketed it more as "Kyle and the Omega Men" it might have lasted longer.

I wouldn't have read it if they had marketed it as another Kyle book.

This book is amazing.
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>>78254471
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>>78254410
/r/dccomics has a lot of fans that care more about writers than fictional characters. Or they have their favorite characters, but want them to be written by good writers, not like the Jason Todd fans of CBR
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>>78254364
Same, by the time New Guardians ended I hated his stupid face, I was vainly hoping he was going to die for real in Omega Men, but then by issue 2 I was shocked at how fast King had fixed him and made him likable again

Then of course a bunch of fans get whiny because he's not the best most special snowflake anymore this author clearly doesn't understand him!!!
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>>78254489
>>78254472
I probably wouldn't have read it, either. I would have thought it was more obnoxious Kyle wank. That's the paradox of it.
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>>78254502

>have their favorite characters, but want them to be written by good writers

Ahh, the Wally problem
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>>78254472
>I wouldn't have read it if they had marketed it as another Kyle book.
This. Sacrificing the integrity of the story so you can sell a few more copies(let's face it, it wouldn't have sold much better even if it were marketed that way and wouldn't have gone past 12 issues) is just pure wrong. I applaud King for how good the series is and I applaud DC for giving him such artistic freedom, something very rare nowadays at the big two.
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>>78254531
There are a LOT of bitter Wally fans on /r/dccomics
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>>78254529
>>78254512
The only thing King didn't fix is killing Kyle/Carol, but Carol's offpage instead of badly characterized and I even find the bits from Kyle's side endearing.
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>>78254578
I'm really glad DC uncancelled it. Seems like it will make a great self-contained 12 issue run.
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>>78254579

I don't blame them!

Once I accepted Wally West had a full story and ending I got a lot less bitter.

But I still want good Flash comics, been so long
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>>78254619
Also you're right that in the post-Johns era selling it as a GL book wouldn't have helped much.
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>>78254584
Yeah, Kyle drawing Carol while missing her was a better portrayal of that relationship than anything in New Guardians.
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>>78254731
I'd like to see if King could sell it for me on Carol's side or if that's beyond his talents.
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>>78254793
The covers are so great.
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>>78254823
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you're the shit, OP! Gods work
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>>78254842
It does become clear, but I wish the first issue had come with a nice map of the Vega system so I could keep the planet names straight.
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>>78254850
Praise Omega.
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>>78254904
I really like the descriptions of each world.
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>>78254915
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I love what this blog has to say about Omega Men's low sales

http://tessatechaitea.tumblr.com/post/128173196413/grayson-11-rating-1-ranking-the-main-problem
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>>78254927
That's pretty much it. It's all about the brands.
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>>78254968
Malicious code my ass.
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>>78255033
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>>78254731
I still really dislike it and I hope King kills it, he's still got five issues to get rid of it
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>>78255103
That would be best. I don't know if they're even going to meet again.
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>>78255196
The only thing about killing Kyle/Carol is I don't want it to be done to make Carol look like more of a bitch than usual. It's for her sake that I hate it.
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>>78255321
Such a great page.
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>>78255350
Nice to see a god character moment that isn't just power wanking.
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>>78255416
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good shit op.

threads can't be interesting sometimes reading other peoples' interpretations
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>>78255446
Storytiming's more fun when I can get a bit of discussion going.
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>>78255246
Carol doesn't need to suffer bad characterization any further, if they do break up it will probably be due to Kyle

I just want it to quietly go away forever
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>>78254090
Good tastes, OP.
Most folks start with issue 1, get told it's important, then do it 2 or 3 issues in.
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>>78255551
I'd have preferred pretending it never happened, but a nice amicable break-up that doesn't make either look like a dick will do.
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>>78255553
I'm a completionist.
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>>78255697
Of course he would draw her old costume.
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>>78255850
There's something I love about Kyle's origin. Just the image of him stepping into an alley and getting the ring carelessly flicked to him.
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>>78255906
I like that this issue isn't hung up on the specifics and New 52 retcons or whatever. It's vague in a very accessible way, I think.
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>>78255986
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bump for awesome storytime

i have all the floppies but i like to hear what others think
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>>78255889
B-b-b-but Kyle's special!
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>>78256002
I think it's fucking awesome.
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>>78255889
I'm really fucking glad for this recap, I hated the CHOSEN ONE retcon
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>>78255930
>tfw some people thought this page meant Carol had been killed off panel
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>>78255585
I'd prefer that it never happened too, but ending it without making a big deal out of it and then ignoring it forever will work for me.
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>>78256058
Was that a New 52 thing or earlier? I haven't actually read much Kyle.
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>>78254377
To be fair /co/ GL fans do the same thing to Hal all the time
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>>78254675

Hey comic book writers this is how you establish characterization without labeled boxes. Everyone has their own actions and speech patterns to set them apart. Take notice, Lobdell, Pfeiffer, Bunn, Daniel
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>>78256073
But Alex in the fridge is like... his thing. The girl there doesn't even have black hair.
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>>78254619
>DC uncancelled it

You know, now that I think about it this is pretty disturbing. DC uncancelles his book even though it sold worse than shit. Marvel reprints his other book that sold just as shit in something that is apparently expected to sell.

One of them really should drop the act and just offer him a blowjob and some cash.
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>>78256116
Oh Kyle, you sucker.
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>>78256133
>>78256100
Dumbass fuckup Hal is like half of why he's my favorite.
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>>78256119
Well, DC didn't realize how good it was until creators (probably Scott Snyder) told them to uncancelled it.

Marvel knows that it's good, and is doing everything it can to make it their new Hawkeye
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>>78256119
He's like the guy of the year. Like when people were crazy about Nick Spencer or everyone was on the Soule train. And he was in the CIA.
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>>78256151
Yeah but then you get the anons who think hes the greatest Green Lantern ever and any time spent on John, Guy ir Kyle is time they should be spending on Hal
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>>78256178
I thought it was just getting called on their promise. They're even going to print the second half of Prez as a sequel, right?
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>>78256211
Jim Lee said that creators were pushing for it to get its 12 issues. Other books like Doomed and Lost Army stayed canceled.

And Scott Snyder, who's probably the second one powerful writer at DC, had been tweeting about how good it is. Now to think of it, I think Geoff Johns has been shilling King as well.
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>>78256309
I see. I can't bring myself to give a shit about Doomed not getting 12 issues, promise or no promise.
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>>78256309
Lost army is getting a continuation in January by Tom Taylor. I have high hopes.
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>>78256382
> Tom Taylor

Ehhhhh
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>>78255889
The best part was he only got chosen because he didn't want to wait to take a piss. The line to the bathroom was long so he was gonna do it in the alley. Then Ganthet poffed in and said take this shit yo.
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>>78256419
Slightly less poetic than "the other side of the coin."
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>>78256187
I may be guilty of this.

>>78256211
Yeah, everyone working on Prez says it's still getting the second half. Russell says he's got more DC work coming too.
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>>78256478
Broot ;_;
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>>78256382
It'll probably be better than Lost Army but I'm still wary

I'm just worried they're going to kill off half the GLC or leave them lost past the end of the book
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>>78256548
Now for the most recent issue.
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>>78256634
It's funny that I started hating Kyle for being "Space Jesus" and here they're explicitly using that imagery in an infinitely more likable way.
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>>78256966
The End... for now.

Thanks for reading, and consider picking up issue #7 on December 30th if you weren't already planning to!
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>>78256987
Hopefully Kyle gets his ring or gets to do some shit. I imagine being a prisoner for 6 issues he's got some pent up issues.
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>>78256987
Anyone else glad that Kyles religion isnt being treated as a joke here?
A lot of writers these days treat Christianity as a joke and go full fedora or the use of Christianity is to fuel some crazy villain that god told em to do it.
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>>78257208
I like the way King treats religion here. He condemns religious institutions that exploit people's faiths for profit, but he also portrays using religion to find inner strength in a positive way
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>>78256987
Thanks OP! Love this book
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>>78257208
It's a little weird though because while being Mexican was a thing for him, he wasn't a very religious person by any stretch of the word. His mom just made him learn Gaelic shit.
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>>78257586
People find faith in their lowest point.
In the darkest times you need a light, and that light can be faith in God.
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>>78258162
Or a lanterns light
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>>78254224
I have to.
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>>78258334
This was worth expanding. Here. Have a common kek.
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>>78258232
lmao
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bamp
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midnight bump
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>>78261228
the midnight bumper what bumps at midnight?
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>>78254208
The preview made me excited about the series in the first place. Going ISIS on Kyle as promotion was definitely a bold move.
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Got a dl?
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>>78257208
I think it goes beyond that. Without inviting too much of a SJW vs anti SJW clusterfuck, this book does a couple of incredibly rare things for comics. Sectarian conflict. Religious persecution. It has literal christfaggotry without going full edgy fedora or JEEBUS SAVES.

It's almost frank miller in his prime sort of good in this regard, but with more nuance.
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>>78255906
Hey look a Tri-Force!
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>>78255930
>no Parallax Hal
Awww
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>>78265125
He was good about it in his GL one shot too

I also enjoy how completely differently he has Hal and Kyle treat religion. Kyle turns to it in a crisis, Hal attempts to turn to it in a crisis but it only makes him angrier and he turns it into a moment shaped more by his own ego.

God I'm so glad what this book is doing for Kyle, too bad afterwards he'll probably go back to terrible White Lantern wank
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>>78265793
I liked that King pulled from a lot of obscure and uncertain canon, like Hal being half Jewish.
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>>78254076
Wait a second - whether they know it or not, don't these people worship Darkseid?
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>>78266433
I guess? Does that make Alpha Highfather?
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>>78254208
It was a hell of a way to get attention.

It made me immediately think, "So the Lanterns curbstomp this entire fucking sector right?" but that's a bad story and Tom King loves Green Lanterns sucking so.
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>>78254410
In all fairness, King hadn't earned the audience's trust. How many times has "WE'LL KILL YOUR FAVORITE!" been used for attention grabbing by shitty writers?
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>>78266327
I love it too, King does his research and it shows.
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>>78254823
>The covers are so great.
They totally are. I regret not being able to double dip and grab the variant in addition to the regular ones.
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>>78255168
I dunno I kind of want Carol to go full old school Star Sapphire when she hears about this bullshit.
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>>78267755
Silver Age "I will rescue you and cart you back to Zamaron to serve as my submissive concubine" old school, or Englehart psycho bitch "I will murder you and anyone who looks like you" old school?
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>>78256524
I really love this scene. Broot and Scrapps are so great.
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>>78267881
Broot ;_;

>>78267755
I'm torn on if I want it to just quietly disappear or if I want it to end so horribly there is zero chance if it happening ever again
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>>78255585
That.

Was a really good fight scene.
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>>78268006
>end so horribly there is zero chance if it happening ever again
Does that work? I feel like the more memorable something is the more likely some writer will dredge it up.
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>>78268059
That's a good point, I don't want that

mostly I just want Kyle to feel bad
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>>78268059
Doesn't really matter what they do, it's a GL tradition to put Carol back to square one every new run.
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>>78268104
Yeah she gets a new personality with every single writer, between Johns, Venditti and Jordan she might as well be three different characters
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>>78256151
Meh.

I went from being really into the Princess to being really not pretty damn quick.
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>>78268336
I really like her, I hope she doesn't end up fucked over by the end of the book
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>>78257208
Its nice, yeah. I also like how important the oath is for him, that he gives a fuck about being a lantern. He hasn't let the Omega Men turn him into one of them, and I dig that.
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>>78267877
"You kidnapped and fucked my boyfriend, I am going to set your planet on fire." old school. So maybe she has to be talked down from going full Englehart.

Like I guess she can be America bombing its way through the conflict or something, but I feel like the Omega Men taking a Lantern and bragging about it should have consequences for both the Citadel and the Omega Men. What was essentially a regional conflict just went galactic.

I don't think that's where the story's going to go, but that's the only beat that rings false to me so far.
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>>78268819
Oh I thought you meant she'd get pissed at Kyle for banging the princess. I'd like Carol to the rescue.

I think the conceit is that no one outside the Vega system really knows what's going on, because Kyle made this deal on his own, and the video was just sent to the Citadel. Unless I'm being stupid and there's something that contradicts that.

Either way I'd think someone is starting to get concerned.
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>>78258334
Goddammit anon.
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>>78266764
>It made me immediately think, "So the Lanterns curbstomp this entire fucking sector right?"

Way, way back in the bronze age they made a pact that Lanterns will never interfere with the Vega system's business. So they can't really do that unless they want war. Which they probably don't. And the GLs are kind of lost at the moment anyway.
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>>78266662
I'm not 100% but I think Alpha/Omega are completely unrelated to Darkseid/Highfather.
If I read/understood correctly, before the Citadel was called the Citadel, it was the Empire of Alpha, named after their first emperor and God.
Eventually, the Empire conquered a bunch of space, including a solar system that knew/worshiped Alpha but also worshiped another god, Omega.
They believed Alpha, god of kings and emperors, had died but would one day return as Omega, god of the low, the poor, the beggars. That's about all we know from the comic about the two, I think.
Oh, next issue is gonna take place on the world said to be Alpha's grave.
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>>78270270
And also Kalista's people are a sect of the Citadel's religion, that believe Alpha was a king and they're descended from him.
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>>78270365
Oh yeah!
That's why they gotta kill people every day.
Gotta grow up to be a badass conqueror like Alpha.
Or is that just their system for keeping their planet's populace under control?
Does it even matter?
I love Tom King.
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>>78270119
There's not really anybody who could come try to rescue him even if they were willing to break the pact

Saint Walker got captured, the indigos are mostly dead, the greens are all gone, Sinestro wouldn't spit on Kyle if he was on fire, the reds are mostly dead and also don't care, Carol is hopefully not so stupid now that she'd go in and start a war, etc

I guess since hobo Hal is not technically a GL he could go in but he's got his own shit to worry about
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>>78270449
They're just keeping the natives in line.
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>>78270467
That leaves... Larfleeze? How's that for a finale?
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>>78270526
Have we seen him since God Head?
I haven't been keeping up with GL/Sinestro.
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>>78270563
I bailed after Relic. I have no idea what's going on now.
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>>78270526
Wait, isn't Larfleeze supposed to be from the Vega sector?
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>>78254866
Since they didn't give me a map, I'll have to make my own shitty one.

Is Scrapps from Hyn'xx?
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>>78270760
I'm not sure if that's where he's from, but he found the orange lantern there on Okaara. But Okaara doesn't seem to be in King's version of the Vega system.

Tamaran, Starfire's planet, also used to be in the Vega system. And the planet Fatality was from, but John blew that up anyway.
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So the Bramin are Space Jews right?
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>>78270563
Nope
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>>78270918
Kinda. I don't think he's trying to be too literal but there's a certain vibe in the Citadel oppressing them and dumping them on a new homeland to oppress the natives.
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>THE OMEGA MEN #7
>The Omega Men’s mysterious plan for Kyle Rayner comes to fruition as the former Green Lantern is forced to make the biggest decision of his life—one that could cost millions of lives. Secrets are finally revealed in an epic climax that will change the balance of power in the DC Universe.
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>>78271995
updated cover
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>>78272017
>THE OMEGA MEN #8
>The Omega Men are back as their space-spanning series continues! The team’s mysterious plan for Kyle Rayner reaches its shocking endgame when the outlaws bypass the energy shield surrounding the off-limits world of Voorl! In doing so, will they discover the true cost of life in Vega?
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>>78272036
>THE OMEGA MEN #9
>With her grand plans for Kyle Rayner completely shattered, Princess Kalista finds herself with no choice but to follow the former Green Lantern into the deadly heart of the Citadel to persuade the Viceroy to do the impossible: make peace with the Omega Men.
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>>78272057
>With her grand plans for Kyle completely shattered

Kyle refusing to give her the dick anymore I guess.
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>>78270814
Nice job, anon. I still can't get over how the quasi-atheist planet was named Euphorix.
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>>78272165
Did they actually fuck? I want him to bang the princess
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>>78254076
still haven't really gotten into omega men. waiting to see if it's a complete storyline before it gets cancelled.
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>>78254300
Well, since Marz created him after raping the Lantern corp in ET I would say that is a fair assessment.
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>>78272676
It will be. King has mentioned repeatedly that he planned carefully around getting twelve issues.
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>>78254153
damn space terrorists
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>>78270270
Well bugger. It was a good idea while it lasted.
SIX BILLION HANDS
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>>78272175
Oh god I didn't get that until now.
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>>78272699
I hear ET was editorially mandated. Marz thought he was going to write Hal Jordan and was instead left trying to pick up the pieces of the franchise.
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>>78275373
Getting rid of Hal and introducing a younger GL instead was an editorial mandate, yeah

Gerard Jones was supposed to write him out too although his plot didn't involve Hal becoming a villain

Jones also quit/got booted from the book at the last minute so Marz was a very late addition. I don't know if he came up with the Parallax stuff or if it was the editors (or both) though

Basically if you hate ET or what it did you should be upset at Dooley and Berganza because the majority of it is their doing
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>>78276195
Berganza was around back then? The guy /co/ insists is responsible for the Teen Titans franchise sucking? Does his evil know no bounds?
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>>78254915
I realized that they remind me of Homestuck, and I'm a little ashamed of that.
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>>78276195

>Berganza

HAHAHAHAHA

motherfucker's like Vandal Savage.
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It frustrates me that I can't get myself to get invested in Omega men when everyone is see on /co/ says its so good.
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>>78279046
There's no law that says you have to enjoy everything that is "objectively" good. Don't force it, just look for something else to read. It is what it is.
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>>78277430
Christ what does he have on DC management?
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How self-contained is this book and how many issues are there?
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>>78279713
Well there's a rumor he has dirt on Harras
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>>78279903
Very self-contained. No interaction with other books, just a handful of quick references to other Kyle/GL stories. The Omega Men, while not new characters, are given a new origin and different characterization, so for them this is pretty much a reboot. Series will end at issue 12, we are currently on 6.
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>>78270918
Sort of, but not quite. In the age of Imperialism they would do this sort of thing, play one group off the other, and actually import them and keep them in constant conflict to prevent an unified rebellion against the colonizing country.

An oversimplified version is,

Citadel= Brittan imports Brahmin= Ashenkazi Jews to rule over the Natives = Palestinians. That's not quite what happened, historically there.

It's closer to the shit they did in india, pakistan and S.E. asia., which is one reason why the author chose Brahmin. Britan would migrate a bunch of bengali muslims into Burma, for example.
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>>78280559
Harras hasn't been at DC long enough. Might be Didio.
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>>78279046
>>78279103
I question whether this is great. It's different enough for the retards who hate 'capeshit'. The dialogue is purposefully painful to read. It's not worth the effort for me to work past the cramped art and tortured script and tangled narrative to get into. But I'm glad other people enjoy it. They shouldn't be so pretentious about it, but still.
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>>78275373
>>78276195
Yeah, März wanted to be edgy (Women in Fridges started in his run on Lantern). He thought Hal destroying the Corp would bring the EDGE. Ironic considering he is one of the biggest fascists in the industry.
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>>78281905
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>>78281127
>Women in Fridges started in his run on Lantern
Nobody ever brings up Katma getting fridged years before Kyle existed
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