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so is her kind an artificial intelligence of sorts or just a slave race ?
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Somewhere in between. Pearls aren't artificial; their as legit and alive as any other gem, but their role they are born to fulfill is a subservient one. A slave is a role someone is forced into, where this is just the intended purpose of a Pearl; what they are made for and expected to do.
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>>78233800
Most types of gems are technically "slaves", in that their role in life is predetermined and they are mostly subservient to higher castes. But Pearls are probably near the bottom of the totem pole, so yes; they are the slaviest of slaves.
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>>78233858

so what made this pearl different i wonder
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>>78233936
I think this pretty much nails it.

The pearls seem to have the simplest of roles with little or no responsibilities besides entertaining/pleasing whoever they're supposed to be committed to.
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So did fans come up with the idea of pearls first or did the show do it first?
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Sort of like a cross between a slave and a toy/accessory. Probably used to show off high status.
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>>78233992
Probably how Rose treated her.
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>>78234044
I mean the only reason we theorized about it is because of the numerous hints that were dropped in season 1.
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>>78234044
People had figured it out based on hints in the S1 finale and in early S2.
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>>78233992
Different in what sense?
Un-pearly?

In that case: Experience.

She lived with Rose and her rebels for who-knows-how-many years/decades/centuries. She had to pick up some new skills or be a burden to her friends who were in danger of being annihilated by Homeworld.

Being immortal, she has had plenty of times to learn and refine herself.
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>>78234085
>>78234079
I see interesting
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>>78233936
pearls are house slaves. certainly not the lowest.
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>>78234125
Same happened with Amy being a defective version of Jasper.
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>>78234116
So is she considered defective because she was willing to learn, or was she willing to learn because she was defective.
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I have a theory that Pearls are sold all across the galaxy and that aliens of multiple origins own Pearls and they're either sold illegally in slave markets because they're seen as living beings or if they are just seen as basically sentient I-phones and they are advertised all over the place like in galactic malls and such.

I'm waiting for an episode where Homeworld Pearls are brought in and the others have to work out on how awkward it is, they're reactions (especially Pearl and Steven's) would be interesting.
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>>78234205
>implying slavery was and is always illegal
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>>78234205
I'm picturing the group making it to Homeworld at some point, only to get split up.

Steven thinks he's found Pearl when it turns out to be a Diamond's servant.
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>>78234204
She's defective because she learned (to think for herself).
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>>78234304
And Steven uses the Homeworld Pearl as his own personal sex slave? I'd read that fanfiction
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>>78234204
I'd assume it's because she has learned new stuff and moved so severely from her traditional role as a pearl, not because there's something physically/mentally wrong with her.

Amethyst is a case of a legitimately defective gem. She's literally a midget, it's confirmed that her kind shouldn't be built like she is.
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>>78233936
I think this is correct, though they may also be a kind of artificial intelligence depending on the origins of the gem race, could be that the gems are supercomputers that Skynetted their creators then kept on keeping on, or they could be a method a previous race used to gain immortality through computation.

They certainly seem unlikely to have evolved naturally, but I guess it's possible
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>>78234364
Damnit, Anon. Now I have to add a homeworld pearl to my fic.
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>>78234178
Amethysts might even be worse then Jasper, I can see then as I much more monstrous sub-race with more animalistic features, after all, Amethyst herself displayed some animalistic properties.

>scratching herself with her foot
>walking on all fours
>living and finding comfort in a literal dump
>growling and hissing

It's possible that Amethysts are highly regarded Gems that are very high on Homeworld's food chain seeing as they're quartz gems like Rose.
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>>78234304
How about an episode where Pearl gets drafted by Gem soldiers and they bring her to a "Pearl Junkyard" where she will be recycled into a new Pearl or grinded up to use her shards for other purposes. I can see Pearls being a "artifical" gem that's mass produced or Gems that are bred specifically to be slaves and sometimes they get aesthetically unpleasing and deformed defects or ones that don't operate like the others (like our Pearl).

It would be a great redemption arc for Pearl where she acts as a liberator to these trashed mistakes.
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>>78234468
Both amethysts and jaspers seem to be great fighters, but with those animalistic streaks I'm beginning to think amethysts would be natural footsoldiers at the bottom of the chain of command while jaspers have more authority.
Jasper was able to boss Peridot around when they came of Earth, after all.
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>>78233800
shes just a high class whore, sort of like a geisha
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>>78234468
Something tells me that Amethyst isn't indicative of normal Amethysts.
At cost of her default her default height, she's lot more proficient at shape-shifting.
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>>78234706
Steven's going to be in for a good time when he enters puberty.
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>>78233800
The correct term is "sex machine".
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>>78234681
Peridot was a technician and Jasper was an older soldier, of course she'd be in charge.
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>>78234765
IIRC Peridot was originally supposed to solo the mission but brought Jasper along as a precaution.
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The real question is did Rose get Pearl as a gift, buy her for herself, or just find her in a dumpster and brought her home?
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>>78234832
I saw a comic about her being a gift from YD, I liked that.
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So if pearls are a type of slave race could buyer's customize them like color, size, shape and what they're good at?
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>>78234870
Seems possible since all gems are basically constructed rather than born and have such extremely specialized lives.
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>>78234863
I like it too
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>>78234912
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>>78234706
Is that a subtle JDM leaf on the left?
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>>78234375
>She's literally a midget, it's confirmed that her kind shouldn't be built like she is.
Wait, what? I thought she could decide what her shape was.
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>>78234942
She seems to have limited mass when it comes to her "base form".

There's one episode where she tries to "resurrect" as something bigger and her limbs just become horribly malformed.
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>>78234989
To the gem chop shop she goes
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>>78234917
keep going, senpai.
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>>78234803
Homeworld must have some kind of superialist food chain where depending on the Gem is how they are viewed and treated like Diamonds and Quartz would be on the top meaning Amethyst would be seen as something of an idol, Peridot even directly said that she should be the leader because of the fact she's a Quartz gem.

Peridot is a type of Olivine which is not a Diamond/Quartz master race quality gem but respectable enough to have jobs like technician in what is presumably a Gem military core.

there will never be an episode where Amethyst is on homeworld and she's treated as a princess because of her status and is given servants and anything else she wants
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To call Pearls a slave class is probably not entirely correct. I think they're pretty far down on the caste system, but at the same time they're not exactly going to be doing manual labor.

I think of them more as maids, or dancers. And they're clearly seen as some kind of status symbol or luxury, since Peridot laughs at the idea of a Peridot owning a Pearl.
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>>78234989
Forgive me, but what episode are you talking about?
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>>78235040
>off the shoulder
Why is Pearl slutting that hard? Rose isn't around
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>>78234942
>>78234870

They seem to have some kind of "default" form otherwise Jasper taunting Amethyst as a runt and Peridot needing limb enhancers to be tall wouldn't make much sense
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>>78234912
>>78234917

i need your sauce
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>>78235042
Quartzes aren't idols. They're warriors. They outrank Peridots and Pearls but aren't anything like royalty.
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>>78235113
As do I
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>>78233992
>yfw perfect Pearls are short, like Harry Potter house elves
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>>78235070
Reformed.

I'm pretty sure a Gem's power determines how much mass it has to work with.
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Could a gem mutate it self to become a higher level of gem or even a new gem entirely?
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>>78233992
Gem shape
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>>78235149
Thanks.
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>>78235041
That's all she's done so far
>>78235113
>>78235129
http://miraculoustang.tumblr.com/post/131132326420/you-shouldnt-have-2-pages-just-a-drabble
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>>78234870
I hope so, considering how different real pearls can be from each other.
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>>78235225
Thanks matey
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>>78235309
I could have one smell like grapes and the other pineapple!
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>>78235125
Warriors can be idolized.
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>>78233800
Fags, is what they are.
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I just really hope that Pearls aren't made the same way as most other gems but are made from giant space clams.
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>>78235309
mainly I really hope all Pearls don't have the exact same color and build.
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>>78235326
Draw pearl wearing a salmon suit!
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>>78233800
Basically designer babies optimized for servitude. They're real living creatures, but they are engineered to look pretty and love nothing more than cleaning and carrying your luggage.
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>>78233800
Remember that the only one describing the role of Pearls explicitly so far is Peridot, a similarly low level functionary who probably has a lot riding on the fact that as a technical expert she's at least better than a Pearl. If they're custom built servants for the elite I see no reason to believe the other Pearls aren't similarly hypercompetent - think of your average executive PA.
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What would fusions be considered on homeworld then?
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>>78235621
Public fucking.
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What if the slavery wasn't just to keep housework?
What if Pearls are actually being kept as slaves to limit their power?
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>>78235757
I like we're this is going then
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>>78235621
going out in public with a midget riding your dick, who is also an anti-material rifle
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Gems aren't just magic, they're aliens, but not just magical aliens, they're rocks, but not just magical alien rocks, they're magical alien rock robots
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>>78235775
Pearl is the weakest gem
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>>78235841
They're also trans lesbian otherkin rock formation asexual gender queer xenobites, check your privilege.
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>>78235775
Hold on a second.
Pearl is insanely powerful.
She just doesn't realize it.
Nigh-impecable accuracy.
Energy blasts.
Holograms that have her level of capability in battle.
Incredible feats of calculation and engineering.
A wrath which can extend past all time.
All against a species which has one vulnerable weak point.
She never was the weakest. She just didn't consider that she could be the strongest.
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>>78235875
See >>78235921
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>>78235757
Public fucking while both parties are armed with multiple weapons and are openly
brandishing them
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>>78236027
Y'know, I'm starting to wonder why Garnet is so morally superior here.
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>>78235775
>housework
I think pearls do more than that.

They're supposed to be beautiful and pleasing to the eye according to Peridot, and Pearl is a natural dancer. They're probably entertainers of some sort more often than anything else.
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>>78235921
I'm really hoping we get a flashback at some point to the first time she technicianed the fuck out of a big overconfident quartz type gem during the war
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>>78236085
You get the idea. They're far more powerful than they seem.
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>>78236077
because #lovewins
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>>78236101
Better than that, Homeworld arrives again. She's standing there, waiting for them. They laugh at Pearl and she just stands there, eyes filled with fury and rage.
Then she says, "Squad one, fire"
And an artillery strike lands at the Homeworld welcoming crew's feet.
But they are tougher than most, and some survive.
And Pearl says, "Squad two, fire."
And a payload of chemical weapons built to eat away at Gems lands as she puts on her gas mask.
And Pearl says, "Welcome to Earth. Please return my sisters, or this is what shall become of the rest of you."
And Homeworld will watch on in horror.
And Pearl will laugh, and say "What, did you not expose me to equivalent horror? Karma has come for you, my former masters."
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>>78235921
What if when they go back the entire world is taken over by pearls and the different types of pearls are having a turf war over the planet.
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>>78235621
An open threat and a way to subvert the hierarchy and caste system?
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>>78236281
It would be as unto a war among the gods.
I can see it now.
New from the people who brought you Steven Universe.
Clash of the Pearls
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>>78236308
That'd get confusing quick. It'd reach that whole, "Hey, I'm Mr. Meseeks." thing pretty quick.
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>>78236231
I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if Yellow Diamond took note of Pearl's peformance during the war, and has at least one Pearl as an enforcer/bodyguard.

Still pathologically loyal, but trained to focus all her energy on combat.
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Pearl is feeling sad today, draw her some cool friends to cheer her up!
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>>78236343
I'd imagen that there are different types of pearls like red and blue versions.
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>>78236222
You keep on saying that, but love isn't an excuse for everything. Love is a feeling. Sometimes you must refuse it.
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>>78236222
>>78236027
Actually, that reminds me, how is Garnet in any way a logical victim here? Sure, Pearl was being a bastard, but she was being a clever bastard. Garnet had forknowledge of aformentioned bastardry and did nothing to prevent it.
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>>78236027
I like to think in SU-Earth the US Declaration of Independence reads "life, liberty, and public fucking while both parties are armed with multiple weapons and are openly brandishing them."
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You know how they bubble all the gems they find in hopes of finding a way to fix them? How the fuck are they going to fix the Clusters?

I can see Steven maybe finding a way to make them coherent enough to have sapient thought but I don't think you could fix them without finding the rest of their gems, and who knows how long that would take.
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>>78236231
literally end yourself
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So does anyone else thick that the kidgarden could have also been doing experiments on humans?
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>>78236726
Why?
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>>78236744
>writing cringey fanfiction about Steven Universe
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>>78236730
Why? Is there anything of value that could be gained from humans? Surely not reproduction because for that to work the gem has to sacrifice themselves.
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>>78236779
Shit man, I was just making a rough projection. You really think that's grounds for killing oneself? If that's true, then you must do some really impressive stuff. I'd love to see your work so I could improve.
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>>78236730
Not really.
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>>78236231
That doesn't work when Homeworld had a weapon that wiped out Rose's army thousands of years ago. Who knows how much more powerful a weapon they have now.
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>>78236784
I'd thick studies on them maybe even combine human with parts of gems.
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>>78236784
Well, you could get disposable soldiers whcih don't really use up the life-force of planets.
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>>78234468

Don't forget

>She likes pissing outside
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>>78233800
The Gems work like a physical caste system
Shes a Space Butler Caste
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>>78236841
Shit, you're right. Wait a second. Then we've reached MAD if the Gems can find their own version of this weapon. This could get interesting.
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>>78236846
What would be the benefit? You'd just have soldiers that are weaker than the ones they have now. What's the point of making a knife when you already have the facilities to make guns ready to start?
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>>78236944
Couldn't they be use for stuff like energy kind of like how lapis was a mirror.
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>>78236906
So fusions are below quartzes?
Cause Amethyst>Garnet>Pearl according to peridot.
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What's the male equivalent of a gem?
Metal? Non-metals? Gases?
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>>78237049
But wouldn't that require the entire human... body... in one compact space. Okay, that's some Junji Ito shit right there.
>>78237089
Peridot could be an unreliable source.
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>>78234044
I theorized that gems were caste-based and had custom servant lifeforms and MTOs before the show overtly called Pearl an MTO.

Personally I love the idea of gems having a sort of caste society based on function, but that's 'cuz I'm a transformers fan.
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>>78237100
I don't think there is one, we got Steven but that's it..
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>>78237137
I thought I saw some on that episode where they visit a temple and Pearl talk about how the gems used to be everywhere.
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>>78237089
Fusions are supposed to be temporary.
I guess diff fusions rank all over the place
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So how do you think the showdown is going to happen? Because by the time they face Yellow Diamond in the show Steven's going to have mastery over the shield where he could probably wield it without getting tired for days. But I doubt he could actually hurt YD, so my guess is the fight will end in a stalemate with both of them not being able to hurt the other and eventually start talking about things.

It would fit the theme of Steven bringing people around by taking the time to talk and be nice, he's already done it with Peridot.
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>>78234912
>>78234917
you heard this in hollo-pearl's voice
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>>78236848
I'd think they could use them as controlled slaves.or solders to be used against there own kind without casualties of there own.
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>>78237331
i'd be ok with that as an ending
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>>78237331
i`m sort of imagining a "topple the king" scenario, where the Gems spend 10+ episodes in Gem Homeworld, as Steven and the gems slowly start an uprising, while YD continuously sends troops/guards to find and kill them off.
This will eventually lead to the climatic face-off, where steven will try to talk it out, but YD just won`t be having any of it and probably be completely pissed that all she`s worked for is getting fucked.

Then again, this is all headcannon shit and i`m probably fucking losing it by being in this thread.
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>>78233800
I'm convinced that are gems are A.I. created bu superior beings to take care of roles they didn't want to do themselves. Eventually they either rised up against them or their creators decided to leave, making the gems fend for themselves.

Basically, they are all computers programmed with feelings.
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>>78237855
What if we're A.I's created to do tasks they didn't want to do? If so, how could we tell?
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>>78234832
i like to think she was a high ranking quartz before going to earth and so she earned a Pearl for her services
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>>78237331
It seems more likely that YD will be one of the few characters Steven can't talk out of being bad and is unaffected by his niceness.
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>>78237939
Haven't people been on earth before the gems ever even showed up?

I know they've been around a while but I'm pretty sure they stumbled on the human race.
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>>78236730
I had these whole idea for a lovecraft type horror fic about malformed humans with gem shards protruding from they're body but I never went through with it

>>78236784
They're aliens mang, aliens that knew nothing about the other beings living on the planet they came to while trying to procreate, they probably did some fucked up experiments on them for kicks, also, if I was Yellow Diamond I would try to invest in some unstoppable mutant soldiers that have the ability to fight without rest like Gems and not be in danger of being "poofed" like humans.
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>>78237331

Steven can't hurt YD. But I'm betting Stevonnie can.

Sword and Board, anon. Sword and Board.
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>>78238028
Gems could be an ancient species that existed longer then most other species in the galaxy and never had anything to do with a species that was in all points, still in it's infancy stages until of course they found out they were killing their own planet while reproducing and went to operate on other planets instead.

Or, for all we know Gems could be part of some H.P. Lovecraft shit where they created human beings either directly or indirectly.
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>>78238086
I'd thick that be cool if that happened!
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>>78236906
>Pharoahs
Diamonds

>Government Officials
Any gem ranging from Quartz, Olivine and maybe even lower, depending on whom the "Pharoahs" of homeworld deem worthy of having such responsibilities so the only class that's not exclusive to specific types of gems however, Diamonds are always on top.

>Soldiers
Quartz gems such as Rose, Amethyst and other buff or exceptionally powerful gems such as Jasper.

>Scribes
Olivine class gems such as Peridot

>Merchants, Artisans and Farmers
I can imagine Rubies and Sapphires being all of these along with other smaller and "weaker" gems

>Slaves
Pearls, their not even seen as people but more like tools or drones, theirs nothing lower then a Pearl.
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>>78237842
I feel like homeworld would be like, a made for tv movie if anything
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>>78238086
Do it, that sounds like a cool Innsmouth type of situation with half human half monster citizens roaming around.
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>>78238086
Why did you not go through with the idea sound good to me?
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>>78238086
They could try gathering other humans as well to create a army for the homeworld gems and slowly kill off the human population too.
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If these were the next set of episodes how hyped would you be based solely on the names and what would be the plots of said episodes?

>Purified
>Together at Last
>Gem Instincts
>The Lost Cosmonaut
>Sick Day
>The Ultimate Gem
>Behind Their Backs
>The Truth
>From Homeworld With Love
>Platoon of Pearls
>Planet Jackers
>Steven's Guide to Life on Earth
>Treachery
>Day of the Diamonds
>So Long, and Thanks for the Donuts
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I could see one of the surviving gem/human experiments come out like the other gem mutants but he's got a whole gem inside of him. so he see and hears the former gem but only he can.
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>>78233992

She probably was defective and was treated as such. Rose was the first Gem to treat her with love and respect (hence her secret resentment towards Steven and her open resentment towards Greg)
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>>78234942
>>78234989
Yeah, I mean, it's inconsistant episode to episode. Hopefully we get that cleared up, the only one who could would be Peridot.

She said Amy shoulda been bigger, but then Garnet is able to turn into a tentacle monster no problem.
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>>78237089
no, garnets was kingz n shit
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>>78239097
>Not So Long, and Thanks for All the Doughnuts
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>>78236679
Probably something like the amalgamates from Undertale. They're still stuck together in horrible misshapen blobs and can't think coherently, but they can at least live peacefully with the rest of society.
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>>78239119
It would be awesome if it turned out to be an entire society of horribly deformed gem/human hybrids that were spawned from experimentation living underground with all of them being in varied forms of deformities and profoundness of gem shards coming out of they're bodies and having sort of a prophecy that indirectly involved Steven as a messiah like, "prophecy states that a perfect hybrid of flesh and stone with beauty and radiance beaming from they're body instead of ugliness will come and lead us out of the underground and into radiant paradise!"

And of course the Gems, espicially Garnet would be highly against these things and cause a bigger conflict like a war or genocide to the "overworlders"

I would highly appreciate this outcome as a fan of dystopian, sub-human plots.
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>>78239267
I'm pretty sure the reason she could do that was because as a fusion she had more mass to work with.
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>>78239329
>amalgamates from Undertale
I haven't played that game, explain.
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>>78239331
I agree this would be pretty awesome story
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>>78235621

Public rape (or public sex with one of the gems not 100% consenting)
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>>78239331
A society of deformed gem/human mutants sounds interesting, do you think they would get along with the Clusters? They didn't become aggressive until Steven showed up, so maybe they just hang around.
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>>78235146
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I think that, based on the fact that Jasper could immediately tell that our Pearl was defective, that regular Pearls must have some overt visual differences. In fact, I think that a lot of Pearl's design comes from her defects.

>Regular pearls are probably round.
>As a result, their heads are probably more round too.
>Smaller noses, if any.
>Neat hair, meats up into a perfect point at the back.
>Smaller hands.
>Shorter arms.
>Shorter legs.
>Less pointed, smaller feet.
>Possibly a longer dress.

You can see how a lot of her features are kind of off, especially in her younger design.
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>>78235921
>Nigh-impecable accuracy.

What about when she fought the giant enemy crab?
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>>78239097

>the last cosmonaut

like what's that supposed to imply that the gems helped the russians during the space race ?
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>>78239560
GEMLETS, WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?
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>>78234751
i wonder if the gems would be OK with havin protected sex with steven, i mean, they are not human, they have shown to not have human qualms or hang ups.
i could see at least amethyst doing it just as "another thing humans do" without thinking too much of it
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>>78239612
In the latest episodes her head has gotten rounder, it's been steadily getting rounder as the show goes on. I think it might just be the storyboaders working together better and having their styles clash less noticeably.
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>>78239612
I always thought Jasper knew she was defective because she'd encountered Pearl before back in the war, same way she knew Rose Quartz.
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>>78239551
The Clusters could be anything from dangerous pests that endanger they're every day lives or domesticated pets they managed to tame or both depending!

Hell, being underground sub-humans they may need to survive by stealing food, clothes and other resources from the surface and send the Clusters to do that so they don't have to risk themselves getting seen by normal humans. Seeing as this kinda has a conspiracy theory kinda vibe to it, I can see Ronaldo getting involved like he took multiple photos of what appear to be entrances to the underground and candid videos of deformed, human-like creatures roaming the city at night and brought it to the Gem's attention.
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>>78239379
A bunch of dying creatures were injected with stuff to keep them alive, and it worked but caused them to melt together into jumbled combinations of body parts very similar to the gem fusion monsters.

In the happiest ending they peacefully live alongside everyone else, though they're still freaky things of debatable sentience.
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>>78239692

Yeah, I've noticed that a bit too, but a lot of her design sheets still give her an oval-ish head, so I'm still going with that for now.

Spaceship Pearl for another comparison. Parts of the design really seem disproportionate to me, especially the arms and hands. I know that the gems aren't human, but even compared to other gem designs she looks kind of odd.
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>>78239839

And forgot the image.
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>>78239810
>The Crystal Gems
>Listening to Ronaldo "not a rapist" Fryman

Odds are they'll dismiss him until one tries to steal stuff from the temple.
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>>78237089
Fusions seem to be considered "cheating", since the component gems are changing the position they're supposed to have.
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>>78237100
I don't think there is one. They reproduce asexually, so there's no reason they'd have any concept of a second gender.
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>>78239810
I'd imagine smarter one's have to take care of their less intelligent spices. But sometimes a few escape. Or they could be waiting for a cure of some sort so they send some out to look for it.
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>>78238454
Sounds about right.

Also, Gem size seems to correlate to power and rank. How big is YD gonna be?
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>>78236077
She's not, from a gem perspective. From a human perspective it seems like she's in the right, but as far as gem culture goes, fusion is a weird magic thing solely for combat. She's kind of being perverse.
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>>78240045
At least as big as Alexandrite, I'm guessing.
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>>78240045
Considering Sugar liked Zim so much she's going to be The Tallest height.
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>>78239686
They wouldn't need protection. They can only get pregnant if they consciously shapeshift a womb.
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>>78239097
>Purified
Centipeetle is purified and makes it back to the team but is still slightly feral from years of being corrupted

>Together at Last
Steven and one of the Gems fuse and that gem constantly wants to stay fused with him (most likely Pearl)

>Gem Instincts
Purified Centipeetle is eating every inorganic material all over town (cars, sides of walls etc.) and the gems have to find out why

>The Lost Cosmonaut
A Russian cosmonaut comes back to Earth after being lost in space ever since the advent of Sputnik and claims to have been on Homeworld.

>Sick Day
Peridot unexpectedly gets a cold and the ailment effects her in unimaginable ways

>The Ultimate Gem
A Homeworld bred Amethyst comes to Earth and overwhelms the gems with it's power and Amethyst has a crisis on who she really is

>Behind Their Backs
Amethyst goes to the Homeworld Amethyst to learn more about herself and feels like she belongs but will she betray the gems in favor f the purple behemoth?

>The Truth
Steven and Peridot find the homeworld Amethyst's ship and Steven learns more about homeworld

>From Homeworld With Love
A missile that will exterminate all life on Earth is sent and the Gems are powerless to stop it until the homeworld Amethyst does the unexpected and saves Earth from it and claims to be on it's side

>Platoon of Pearls
Wanting to show the Gems that they can trust her the homeworld Amethyst supplies her ship to the Gems and everything in it including her entire harem of Pearls which Steven and others use in their daily lives, getting Pearl very upset

>Planet Jackers
Two under experienced aliens calling themselves the planet jackers come to Earth and claim to be it's new rulers without any weapons or anything (Steven ends up making friends with them in the end)

>Steven (and Connie's) Guide to Life on Earth
Steven and Connie show Peridot and Homeworld Amethyst (now called Alpha) how great life on Earth can be when they start missing their lives and belongings there
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tumblr: the animation
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>>78238454
>nothing lower then a Pearl

Unless Gems have an Untouchables group outside of even counting as a part of the caste system, like India does.
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>>78240045
pretty damn tall
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>>78240045
interesting, rose WAS the taller one on the group and when she left it seems garnet became the defacto leader
and when the homeworld gems came jasper seemed to be the one in charge.
then its enfazised when they talk about how amethyst should be the leader and she should be taller.
maybe gem world actually is that petty that they see literal height as a sign of rank, maybe sucrose is letting her fanatism for zim influence the show in more ways than one
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>>78238454
>Pearls, their not even seen as people but more like tools or drones, theirs nothing lower then a Pearl.

The way Peridot talks almost makes Pearls come across as some sort of hogh end pet; like a designer dogbreed.
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>>78239097
>>78240186

>Treachery
The Lost Cosmonaut (let's call him Vladimir) breaks into the temple and loots the arsenal, now armed with Gem weaponry he goes off to the Kindergarten to restart it

>Day of The Diamonds
Yellow Diamond lands on Earth with her sisters Red and Blue Diamond after getting word of Alpha and Peridot's betrayal and the reactivation of the Kindergarten (all thanks to Vladimir) the Crystal Gems get a taste of just how powerless they are without Rose‘s help.

>So Long, and Thanks for All the Donuts - It’s Earth vs. Homeworld, can everything that the Gem’s have learned, their new friends and the weaponry they have accumulated help them trump the monumentous opposition of the Diamonds and their advanced technology? Can the Earth be saved despite the massive opposition?
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>>78235621
Like walking around with a loaded rifle and pretending "H-Hey man, i-it's just part of who I am."
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>It's been over two months since the last episode.
>Likely another month until new episodes air again.
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new ep announced or not yet?
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>>78240359
I think it's more strength than height. Although I'll lose my shit if Yellow Diamond acts like the Tallest.
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>ctrl-f
>only one person mentioning Tumblr

It's a good day.
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>>78240359
or maybe because their size indicates how powerful they are, because they have enough power to constantly materialize all that extra mass
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>>78239686
You're probably right about Amethyst, considering how she also loves to eat and sleep despite not needing to as a gem.

I'm guessing Pearl would find it weird and awkward. And maybe even icky.

Can't say what Garnet would think of it.
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>>78240531
This was the way I saw it.
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Do you think we'll ever meet THE Alexandrite? Pearl, Amethyst and Garnet were too at odds to let a personality form, but do you think there'll ever be a situation where we can meet her for real?
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>>78239267
It seems pretty simple to me. They can grow larger, but only temporarily. The more powerful a gem/fusion is, the larger they can be 24/7
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Would you say Steven Universe is a show with a female demographic? I'm a little hesitant to watch the series since I heard it has an abudence of songs and emotional moments.
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>>78240662
I'd say so, yeah. It's got crossover appeal, but it's a show for smelly girls overall. Sorry, Anon.
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>>78240621
We did when she was chasing the bus. Her voice was more apparent and she was able to run at a high enough speed to catch a bus. Its obvious that Alexandrite is a lot more stable when all 3/4 Gems have a set mission in mind.
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>>78240662
Yes.

If you don't like crying and singing, this is definitely not the show for you.
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Speaking of fusions, is anyone else annoyed by the fact that Sardonyx broke the mythology theme?
>Opal is based on the Hindu Goddess Kali.
>Sugilite is based on a Oni.
>Sardonyx is a...magician.
Its just so odd to me.
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>>78240733
I thought Sugilite was based on Nicki Minaj...
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>>78240761
She has Nicki Minajs proportions anon.
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>>78240733
It's just the multiple arms thing that made them Hindu. Sugilite gives me more of a punk rocker vibe.

For that matter, there's nothing very Kali-ish about Opal other than "they've got extra arms." Kali is a brutal, ugly war goddess who slices the hands off criminals, not an elegant, taciturn dancer.
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>>78240780
Kali has 2 sides anon. One is the hand cutting, severed head collecting war Goddess, and the other a Goddess of children and motherhood.
Plus, Opal eve has Kalis ponytail and general outfit scheme.
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>>78240722
fuck you

I got a big ol dick and I like the show just fine

I turn down the volume any time a song comes on and nobody knows I enjoy this show irl
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>>78240811
Scratch that, Kali isn't the one with the ponytail. My apologies.
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>>78240819
Even Stronger Than You?
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>>78240673
That's alright. I'll just look into another animated show.
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>>78240870
all the songs

I don't want the NSA to know I'm into a girly cartoon
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Are you guys excited for the episode about why Pearl isn't in any of Stevens baby photos?
Here's a hint. She almost speared him like a fish and Garnet didn't like that.
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>>78237178
yeah, and they were all lady-types.
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>>78240811
I'm looking at a lot of artwork of Khali and none of it gives me an Opal vibe. Most Khali art has her wearing almost no clothes at all, with big tusky teeth and wild hair. Lakshmi fits Opal much better - kindly, beautiful, four arms, uses a bow, associated with light.

Actually, if anything, that makes Sugilite a pretty good Khali. She's tusky, violent, and ugly, but she's also genuinely affectionate towards Steven.
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>>78233800

Mmm I thought she was supposed to be an space jew like Garnet is an space african-american and Amethyst is an space latina since SU is Diversity the show
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>>78235775
i dont think they have much power, but they have a lot of potential
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>>78240941
You're Hindu knowledge is better than mine anon.
Sugilite does work better as Kali, maybe its her dark color scheme that made me think of an Oni.
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>>78241009
My Hindu knowledge is Wikipedia, fellow anon.
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>>78240262
>>78240359
>my tallest
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So for what reason do Jasper and Amethyst have a spin dash also can Rose quartz do a spin dash as well.
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>>78241182
Jasper most likely used it to go through tons of enemies on the battlefield.
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>>78241182
>also can Rose quartz do a spin dash as well.
No she uses her bubble like super monkey ball
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>>78241182
Rose probably can. If Amy and Jasper can both do it, then it's probably a Quartz thing.
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So you guys think there animal gems living on earth?
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>>78241272
Lion, or whatever the fuck he actually is.
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>>78241272
Maybe there are magic floating rocks island and a island filled with gold fish that smile back at you. But I gotta wonder how some of the corrupted gem even got on some of those places like the island or that Giant black bird called the Roc
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>>78241272
Depends what you mean.
>Gems that take animal form
Kinda the corrupted gems, but it's not by choice. Maybe there are more bestial gems on homeworld though.
>Animals affected by the Gems
Lion may or may not end up being that, it's still a mystery.
But there's the crystal shrimp from the sea spire that appear to be fully alien creatures.
And then there's lion's lunch here. It clearly didn't poof after getting half it's body eaten off, so probably not any kind of gem, but clearly has some gems in it.
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Another /sug/ thread full of shitposting?

>>>/trash/
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>>78241378
Calm down. It's not like we're sharing our gemsonas and waifus.
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>>78234668
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Why does everyone keep saying Greg caused Steven to lose his healing powers? Is it because his powers didn't work on inanimate objects?
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Rose treated pearl as she was. Property. Pearl did as she was meant to. Believe this was good and right. Her defect was conflating it as affection.
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>>78241475
That, and his powers are connected to his emotions. Greg did briefly fuck them up, but I'm sure they're fine now.
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>>78239646
>>78235309
>>78235350
>>78240433
>>78240507
Posting images that are not related to /co/ are against the rules.
This isn't >>>/b/
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>>78235053
>Described as more akin to dolls or toys than actual Gems
It sounds like they're viewed as objects. Which would be worse if not as bad as being a slave.
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>>78241497
>Stop posting images on this image board!
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>>78237089
Fusions are probably considered without rank. After all, if any two Gems could do a little dance and instantly become stronger and smarter, then the whole caste system breaks down. It's another reason why Peridot thinks staying fused all the time is weird, because on Homeworld, Gems likely just fuse long enough to do a task and then break up before they start getting ideas.

So on top of the stuff about Fusion being like having sex while openly carrying guns, imagine that while they're having their shootfucking, the partners are also shouting "Fuck the system! Down with authority!"
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>>78240662
Seeing as how the majority of the cast are female, I'd say yes.
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>>78241378
>shitposting

Fucking where? This whole thread has been people theorizing and conversing about the show, something /sug/ never does.

Grandpa is proud of every anon here for staying on topic and comprising profound ideas and thoughts about the show as a thread should do!
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>>78240662
>>78240874
>No appreciation for musical narrative
I pity thee.
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>>78240446
the newest thing we've learned is that apparently there's an episode called "the answer" that has animation in it similar to a lottie reiniger movie
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>>78241674
Master of the house. Quick to catch your eye. Never lets a passersby pass him by.
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>>78236678
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>>78241720
Servant to the poor, butler to the great
Comforter, philosopher, and lifelong mate!
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>>78234079
What hints?
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>>78241736
>that watermark

God damnit I keep forgetting that's there.
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>>78241769
You know Schumann went crazy like that.
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>>78241769
Everybody's boon companion
Everybody's chaperone!
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>>78241790
Pearl is referred to as if she's part of a number of Pearls at least twice by my knowledge in Season 1 - Rose calls her "My Pearl," and Jasper calls her "some lost, defective Pearl." There's probably a ton of more subtle ones out there.
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>>78241790
>Jasper calling Pearl "a lost, defective Pearl"
>Pearl saying that she's usless on her own because she's "just a Pearl" in "Friend Ship"
>Pearl's reaction to Rose in "Rose's Scabbard" looked like a peasant reacting to Royalty
>Pearl always doing household chores, to the point of replacing all the other names on the chore wheel with her own
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>>78241691
Like something out of Limbo? Sounds fun.
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>>78241864
>Pearl always doing household chores, to the point of replacing all the other names on the chore wheel with her own
Well, at least the Pearls supposedly enjoy their work?

Maybe that just makes it more tragic.
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>>78240892
>I don't want the NSA to know I'm into a girly cartoon

>Not being out and proud.
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>>78241829
But lock up your valises Jesus won't I skin you to the bone!
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>>78241896
Wouldn't make sense to create servants who don't want to do their job.
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>>78233858
I don't think they're really slaves just born to serve secretaries. As far as we know peridot was just butthurt a purse Chihuahua(cared for and treated better than most gems) learned to do her life purpose(Engineering) and was able to learn beyond their programming(fighting)
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>>78240892
We're well aware. You don't hide it very well. Certainly not from us.
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>>78235040
This would have been goat if not for that HURRRRRLL onomatapeia
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If Peridot dies during the inevitable Yellow Diamond battle, that's it. I'm out. I am fucking out.
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>>78241942
>born to serve
>not a slave
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>>78241973
Okay.

Also to anyone that has one of these abominations: have you tried painting the eyes like this? Does that make it better? I actually kinda want one if this wouldn't be a waste of time.
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>>78234832
>Rose/Pearl

Why does this ship make my heart die a little more inside every single time?
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>>78241992
Because it did not happen and thus never can.
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Does anyone else want Homeworld to win?
Not even being a contrarian, it would just bug me if Homeworld has to job because Friendship is Magic.

They can travel the galaxy; why on earth have they not just glassed Earth and found somewhere else to put a Kindergarten on? They're immortal; they could check back in a few million years and there would be life to restart the Kindergarten.

Unless the Gem Civil War really did fuck homeworld into a state of disrepair, it's going to bug me of the Crystal Gems alone can actually win.
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>>78241864
It's not just the "peasant reacting to royalty" part. Rose calls her "My Pearl," at the end of her speech, and earlier in the episode, Pearl is so staunch that Rose could never lie to her because their relationship was deep and special. This implies that there's more than one Pearl out there, and Pearl and Rose's close relationship was uncommon - in itself, implying that Pearls are low on the totem pole.
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>>78241984
Slaves are made. Not born. There is a difference. Something I learned many years ago.
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>>78242049
They decided taking back the Earth wasn't worth the effort, and decided to use it to test out their fusion experiments instead.

It makes sense, from their perspective. They have nothing to lose and might gain a useful new tactic.
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>>78233800
>so is her kind an artificial intelligence of sorts or just a slave race
She is as much of a AI as any other gem.
None of them are biological beings they are all intelligent rocks and they are all created to serve a specific purpose or role in gem civilization.
The real question is where did the first gems come from? did they form naturally? were they created by a different race? or where they at one point another race themselves that became the gem race we see?
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>>78237100
How about other alien beings in the SU universe based on other things like a metal based race called the Forged or a gas based race called the Smog?

That sounds really cool to me.
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>>78242039
>Because it did not happen and thus never can.

Sh-shut up-p. ;_;
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>>78242134
Cheer up anon. At least it's not worst ship imaginable.
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>>78242049
>it's going to bug me of the Crystal Gems alone can actually win.
I doubt that it will be a simple matter of brute force between the Crystal Gems and the entirety of Homeworld.

There will be redemption, or civil war, or Homeworld will decide that Earth simply isn't worth the trouble, leaving the Crystal and few reformed Homeworld gems to fester there in peace.
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>>78242091
Not in my country. In my country's slave culture in history, slaves at first may be made, but those children of those slaves born are slaves too. Of course that was ancient history.

Fun fact. When slavery was abolished in my country, many of the slave families begged not to be free, because to them, slavery was an easier life. As Red said in Shawshank Redemption, they have been institutionalized.
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>>78242134
>>78242188
Pearl and Lapis can commiserate over the psychological damage of martyrdom.

Problem solved.
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>>78242239
Blankety let me do this for you blank.
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>>78242049
If Steven Universe has done anything right it's not making anyone look like heroes or villains, Homeworld trying to destroy all the life on Earth seems heinous and evil but the reality is that they are simply trying to ensure their race continues in the only way they know and it's highly suspect that Homeworld is in a state of depression and disrepair and Rose may seem like the hero for defending Earth but she betrayed and screwed over her own kind in favor of human beings because she had a moral high ground that can seem very unmoral from Homeworld's perspective.

Jasper seems like a class-a villain but she's really just a soldier fighting for what is seen as a noble cause by her species hell, Peridot seemed bad too until she started to help the Gems with the cluster situation and episodes like Too Far and the rain episode (forgot what it was called) showed that Peridot has humanity and emotions.

Everybody in this show has something worth fighting for and it's seen as a very bad thing to the other side, who knows? Maybe even Yellow Diamond, a character that has so far been portrayed as a dark, sinister "holy shit we're all going to do die" character will turn out to be a tragic, begotten leader who must hold the burden of ruling over her people and keep them in good spirits as they're planet is rotting deeper into disrepair but can be seen as something completely different to the opposite side, sort of like Asgore from Undertale and it would actually be really cool if she turned out to be like this character who looks menacing and evil but is only trying to do the right thing.

The main reason why Rose is seen as the hero is because she protected humanity, that's us, we will naturally go to the side of the person who protected us with out knowing the other side of the story, It would be a fantastic arc in the story if Rose is portrayed as anything but a hero.
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>>78242226
I still disagree; enough that even as children they had to be brought up as slaves. Else, they would have questioned their station. Thus leading to free thought and action. Which is innate to mankind. Slaves brought up under slavery need to be taught it and fed it routinely to be institutionalized. As I said. Made. Not born.
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>>78242418
I hope they're using protection
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>>78242490
No glove no love.
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>>78241561
>like having sex while openly carrying guns, imagine that while they're having their shootfucking, the partners are also shouting "Fuck the system! Down with authority!"

I want someone to draw this now.

Ruby and Sapphire having sex, shooting random people in with automatic weapons in one hand shouting the "fuck the system!" line.
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It was really hot to see Peridot groping Pearl's ribbon, invading her personal space, and generally talking about her as if she were an object.
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>>78242425
>If Steven Universe has done anything right it's not making anyone look like heroes or villains
Except Marty.

To the point that I really hope we meet him in a later episode and find out that how he was portrayed in Story For Steven was colored by Greg's bias. I mean, he had shark teeth for crying out loud.
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>>78242425
Yeah, to be Homeworld seems not to be evil, more like the incubators in that they don't really think they're doing anything wrong.
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>>78242611
But he's Farty Marty!
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>>78237855
>>78242112
This makes the most sense to me, I mean they literally start "glitching" when damaged so I'm pretty sure they're AI.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHflVxTgp9c

Why do the turkish advertisements have all these custom songs!
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>>78242611
>Future episode titled "Drop Beat Dad"
Should be nice and awkward.
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>>78242490
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>>78237331
She smashes the spare option before the fight
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>>78242611
He seems more like an average scumbag than a villain, all he did really was be an asshole.
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>>78242458
Made in the sense of state of mind. Born in the sense of legally and socially.
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>>78242591
I randomly wonder, what would Pearl and Peridot become if they fused?

I'm kind of imagine...
Trinitite (a radioactive glass formed by nuclear bomb tests around Trinity, New Mexico. Intelligent beyond anything else, but highly unstable and increasingly harmful unchecked. (sort of playing off the "promises of the nuclear age" along with "the terrors/dangers of nuclear sciences"
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>>78242651
We all know how it's going to go down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSKyaXkzVvc
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>>78242643
Cute. I don't think U.S. CN puts much effort into advertising outside of gushing about Your New Favorite Show.
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>>78242691
It's got the right colors, too, Anon. You might be onto something.
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>>78242691
Oh that's easy. They become waifu bait
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>>78242643
and people still don't think Connie is gonna win the Stevenbowl
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>>78242696
Why do I feel that the emotional climax will be watered down by Yellowtail's gibberish?
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>>78242744
Well nothing parodying that scene is going to be as emotionally powerful, but it's bound to bring up a few tears.
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>>78242732
Excited, intelligent, nerdy, and dangerous waifu bait?

>>78242710
that, and aren't pearls and trinitite both formed from sand or particles within it?
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>>78237331

i'm okay with anything as long as the confrontation between steven and yd leads to implied /ss/
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>>78239097
>Purified
Steven manages to cure Centipeetle and she returns to her humanoid self, but it has a tragic end when the cure turns out to be only temporary.

>Together at Last
Something to do with Stevonnie and/or Lapis.

>Gem Instincts
Garnet encounters something that triggers Ruby, Sapphire, or both to start fulfilling their designed purpose, causing Garnet to split.

>The Lost Cosmonaut
A gem who has been stuck in space crash lands on Earth, not knowing that the rebellion ever happened

>Sick Day
The CGs get put out of commission by some kind of Gem disease, and Steven has to deal with some kind of monster on his own.

>The Ultimate Gem
Flashback about a time when all the CGs (including Rose) formed the temple fusion.

>Behind Their Backs
The CGs learn that Peridot had planned to betray them, though she had abandoned this plan by the time she gets found out and has to convince them she's changed.

>The Truth
Rose trapped Lapis in the mirror.

>From Homeworld With Love
Dealing with the Cluster

>Platoon of Pearls
Earth is invaded by an army of Pearls.

>Planet Jackers
The ship begins bringing the entire planet Earth to Homeworld.

>Steven's Guide to Life on Earth
On route to Homeworld, Steven teaches the Pearls about Earth.

>Treachery
Steven learns the full story of Rose's rebellion.

>Day of the Diamonds
The CGs are caught in the middle of a battle between Blue, White, and Yellow Diamond.

>So Long, and Thanks for the Donuts
Grand finale.
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>>78242666
Which is unusual for this series. He's the only character to be 100% a dick.
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>>78242636
The shit he likely had to put up with those days after Story For Steven when he was trying to talk sense into Greg.
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>>78242530
>I want someone to draw this now.
The highest accolade an anon can receive.
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>>78242691
I wonder what the chances are of one of the Homeworld gems actually fusing with one of the CGs.
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you guys are fuckin' weird desu senpai this some pony-tier stuff goin' on in here
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>>78242948
>don't be monogamous to one women and fuck many as advice
>knocks up a woman and leaves
He deserves being looked badly. It is true he may have had good reasons, and the portrayal seems biased. But the facts do present that he was a man who cannot commit to anything and leaves one thing for another.

Like Greg, unfortunately. We all know he has no home and lives in a van cause he built a home for his son to live with his alien family/guardians, and probably pays for all of Steven's stuffs. But unless he can pull himself out of the slump, society and many will view Greg as a deadbeat dad, even though he is one of the best dads in cartoon history when it comes to emotional and spiritual support.
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>>78243053
There's nothing wrong with polygamy.

And we don't know exactly why he left. It wasn't immediately after SFS, because Amethyst knows him.
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>>78243053
>>don't be monogamous to one women and fuck many as advice
Is that really how people interpreted that "you want one big woman instead of many small ones" remark?
I interpreted it as him telling Greg not to let his fetish for giant women be his sole reason for falling in love.
It was obvious from their conversation that Greg had fallen in love with big women before and they apparently didn't work out so it seemed like Marty was just telling him to broaden his horizons and not blindly fall in fall hopelessly in love with every stranger that fit his fetish which is pretty good advice since at the time Greg was about to throw his career away for someone he didn't even know based entirely on her height.
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>>78243129
Was it? It just seemed more like don't settle for one that you like and go for multiple that you may not like anyway. It didn't seem like "give other women a shot", more of how guys say "don't invest in one chick your whole life, fuck as many as you can" talk that some people I know like to say.

As for the career advice thing. I doubt that was legitimate. The dude brought Greg to beach city, where no one attended, knocked up a girl as his artist was performing and didn't even know if he finished. That may be what happens in real life, but to me that seems like he didn't give a fuck anyway, as long as he got the money. I mean, Marty was a manager, not a friend to Greg, so any advice from him is probably going to be the in the best of interest in their business together and not based on happiness or self fulfillment.
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I THROW TRASH EVERYWHERE! AND THEN I START EATING GARBAGE!
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>>78243352
But one man's trash is another man's treasure, anon
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>>78243352
>She's got salmon hair
>She's perfect in every way
>Nose not too large
>Not too small
>Salmon hair
>She's gorgeous
>Not like a bird
>But like a beautiful Gem
>Definitely not like a bird
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>>78233800
Organic Gems are all sluts and worker or low class cannon fodder/rank and file foot soldiers.
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When is this damn show getting out of hiatus? It's been months.
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>>78243590
General theory is sometime in January. Some people say as early as the 8th, but we won't know for certain until a week beforehand.
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>>78233800

Slave race. Why? Because it's a more appealing thought.

"Pearl, could you sort these out for me while I tend to the plants?"
"Yes, Mistress."
"Oh, Pearl... you don't have to call me that."
"..I... I'm sorry." (hurt)
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>>78234044

...There are people who didn't assume there are many individuals of each gem kind?

Because if so, I question their sapience.
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>>78234375
>Amethyst is a case of a legitimately defective gem. She's literally a midget, it's confirmed that her kind shouldn't be built like she is.

Yes... and that she should be a good, obedient soldier.

I say THEY'RE defective.
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>>78241942

We already know their society is extremely stratified (sic) and divided into castes. And how dismissive Peridot - herself pretty low on the ladder going by anything she has done and said so far - treated her indicates that Pearls really are slaves. Existing only to stand around and look pretty.
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>>78242049

If they're that powerful, why do they need something like the Kindergarten at all? For "life force"? It can't be that strong a need or they would have returned sooner.
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>>78242091

Kind of depends. If we ever get to that point, will a robot or a genetically engineered organism created to serve, be a born slave?
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>>78242226
>my country

Where on Earth...?
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>>78242425
>Peridot seemed bad too until she started to help the Gems with the cluster situation

Right... so Rose is a traitor because she tried to save an entire species of sentient beings as well as all other life on Earth, but Peridot gets a hand-wave because she was ready to betray her people the moment her own life was at stake?
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>>78242591

Hmmm... is that why an episode later she was leashed to a fence?
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>>78243692
I recently caught up with it after leaving it around halfway through Season 1. I forgot how much of a fun watch it was, but the weirdly, suddenly serious tone the show took sometimes was just a bit out of left field, specially the stuff with Amethyst suddenly caring a whole bunch about that Kindergarten crap.
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>>78243956
Thailand, and probably the same in many Asian countries. Only white people are dicks to their slaves.
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>>78243969
At this point, Rose is pretty damn mysterious. We don't know what prompted her to go to war, and we don't know what she did to finish it (though we do know that it was enough to whittle down her army to a total of four people). Then there's the walking question mark that is Lion. Plus, the show's already dropped major hints that Rose wasn't entirely a saint.

It's pretty clear the show is leading to some kind of revelation about her, but it's not clear what (though I doubt it's "lol she's evil.")
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>>78243989
It was triggered by something, mind - namely, Pearl being all "Oh, what Homeworld did to Earth was terrible, it was such a bad bad thing, so bad we can't tell you," which is in line with them hiding the whole truth from Steven in early seasons and would probably piss anyone off.
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>>78242226
>Fun fact. When slavery was abolished in my country, many of the slave families begged not to be free, because to them, slavery was an easier life.

No fucking shit. It's not like they get handed steady employment upon being freed.
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>>78244097
And not to mention difference between slave and servant was paid in money or paid in food and place to stay. This isn't "you niggers aren't people" slavers, but "you are slave so earn your rents and food". Really, slavery here is very different than white people's slaves.
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>>78243944
I guess they wouldn't be slaves, just servants. But there's still going to be people who will call it slavery.

But here's the question, is it still slavery if they like to serve?
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>>78244135
Umm, no. Outside of industrial applications like plantations and mines, black slavery was very similar to what you are talking about. The local rich dude with a handful of slaves wasn't treating them like animals, he was treating them like bottom-rung employees would be treated at the time. Which is to say, with wild disrespect and occasional rape, but not too much murder or torture.

You seem to think that slaves not wanting to be made homeless and starve means that slavery was okay or good. That would be a very stupid thing to think, so I suspect I am misunderstanding you.
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>>78242940
i dunno, lars is pretty close.
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>>78244135
Slavery's varied a lot over history because the definition of "slave" is "person who is considered another's property." The Turkish janissaries were considered slaves, even though they were well-paid and received a lot of abnormal privileges. Societies that treated their slaves well weren't quite common, but they did exist... though if Pearl's indignation is any indication, Homeworld was not one of those societies.
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>>78242710
where would the gems on the fusion appear? both on the forehead?
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>>78243041
>Pony tier

As gar as I know, we haven't unironically posted a fantasy describing how we're gonna plug up a horse ass and then feed it rotten vegetables until it sits there for a few weeks in the colon until they finally pull the plug and literally let the shit floe downhill.

No. we ain't anything like them. For god sakes, no one deserves to be compared to a pony fucker.
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>>78238454
>>78236906
>>78236906
>>78236906
Get into Steven Universe they said.
It's an entirely new fandom, they said.
It's like I'm reading Homostuck all over again god damn it.
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>>78243041
I haven't boiled a gemstone in cum yet.

When someone does you have the right to say anything you want.
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>>78243417
Fits so well I didn't even recognize until the last line
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>>78244224
>Yet
Anon, pleeza no frieza.
Don't jinx it, senpai.
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>>78244260
I hope it doesn't happen either, but autism knows no bounds.
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>>78244174
Indeed good sir. Slavery or any form of control over another human being and limiting their rights to that extent for the sole purpose of ownership or the illusion of ownership is certainly not a good thing.

My point was, mistreatment of slaves in my country's history wasn't as severe as viewing them as subhuman tools. Still tools, but human tools.
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>try to start watching it
>Pearl's voice sounds horrible compared to how I imagined it

>singing starts

Is it worth persisting?
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>>78245495
>Pearl's voice sounds horrible

Woah there friend be careful with those hot opinions or you might burn yourself.

But seriously just watch it, the episodes are 11 minutes a piece it won't take up that much time.
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>>78245621
...compared to how I imagined it, which doesn't mean it -is- horrible imo, just deeply disappointing.
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I wonder whether they will rewrite the theme song if Peridot becomes permament.

The show has some heavy Sailor Moon influences, so a growing group wouldn't be a surprise.
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>>78245662
Oh, well that's different. What did you imagine she would sound like? Dee's voice is pretty spot on to what I thought she would sound like when I first saw Pearl.
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>>78242691
wonder if there could be radioactive gems
is there uranium or plutonium out there, and if so, do they have the same toxic properties, would other gems be suceptible or their hard light bodies wouldnt even be affected by radiation?
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>>78246122
Is Uranium a gem? I thought it was a mineral...
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>>78242425
>It would be a fantastic arc in the story if Rose is portrayed as anything but a hero.

Yeah, i really am looking foward to the "Rose did a lot of fucked up shit during the war" moment
The way characters talk about it and sceneries like the strawberry field (basically a graveyard) make me think the show wouldn't treat the war as a simplistic "good guys knock out bad guys" if they ever want to show it
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>>78244180
Lars has a good number of sympathetic moments, and it's made very clear that he just a jerk because he's really insecure.
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>>78244198
Double forehead
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>>78246432
Rose and Greg's dialogue "I barely know you" "That's a good thing" from We Need To Talk got me really excited for the possibility that Rose has done some really terrible shit and has millennia of blood on her hands
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>>78246704
>I always thought I might be bad, but now I'm sure that its true.
>Cause I think you're so good, and I'm nothing like you.
Its obvious that she was most likely the leader of the initial invasion. Hell, she might ave even known about The Cluster.
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>>78245675
The new opening would probably have old Peridot transform into her new crystal gem design, if that's the direction i'm going with this.
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>>78239097
>The Ultimate Gem
Is this going to be what I hope it's going to be?
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>>78246893
perhaps
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>>78246893
Endgame Steven will be top tier
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>>78246941
>Its just the temple fusion with a slightly pudgier build, shorter hair, and flipflops.
And maybe star shaped shades, but I think that'll go to the Garnet/Steven fusion.
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>>78246941
>The episode where they deal with the Cluster is called The Ultimate Gem
>They've drilled to the core but they're too late
>The Cluster is starting to reform itself slowly
>Twisted and warped limbs are forming and fighting the gems from all sides
>Steven is dodging the attacking limbs when he starts seeing a glow on all the limbs
>His gem has confused his fight with the Cluster for a dance
>All the gems are blinded by a searing light
>From the Earth's core where the Cluster was incubating a figure emerges
>It opens its eyes
>It speaks words that could frighten even a gem
>"All lives gather as one."
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htDB8SuLrng
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>>78242425
It's worth noting that Yellow Diamond is feared even by her own people (or at least Peridot and Lapis), so it's not simply a matter of being on the opposite side. Although Peridot did call her in a distress signal, so she's probably not all bad.
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>>78246704
>>78246719
>I respected your tactics, but this is just sick.
I forget the exact words but Jasper said something like that which says to me the big fluffy sweetheart could be stone cold when the need arose.
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>>78246704
>>78246432
I want her to be the one who put Lapis in the mirror just because she considered her too powerful to leave as a factor.
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>>78247232
I'm thinking Peridot thought that bothering Yellow Diamond with (in Peridot's mind) such a insignificant matter would result in punishment.

Like calling the police because you saw someone smoking in a restaurant.
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>>78247380
Or calling the police while being black.
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>>78247407
Or being black.
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>>78233936
They are basically nothing but glorified deco with a bit of house servant thrown in.
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>>78247232
She's likely as ruthless as Darth Vader, you sure as hell don't want to get force chocked.
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>>78234765
I read that as Jasper was an older sister
>>"Jasper Onee-san!"
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oh look, a super secret /sug/ thread, dont tell the mods, they delete and ban anything SU related on sight.

also reddit steals out ideas and posts them there 3 weeks after we have already figured it out, like literally all the lore and shit was figured out by autists in /sug/. before ever getting on reddit or youtube or whatever.
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>yfw pearl's pearl being oblong all series long was actually a plot point of her being deffective.
>yfw the 2 stars in the original opening were a reference to garnet being a fustion
>yfw the very first episodes had reference to the 4 diamond authorities, with rose's always being crushed or defaced somehow
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>>78247514
its weird, if you count the trash threads, there's been more Steven universe discussion than ever since the hiatus. But my god with /sug/ be active when it comes back.
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>>78247483
kill yourself periscum
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>>78247602
the trash thread are pretty shit, of course i go to them, but there are no names, which discourages content creation, and actually talking about anything is impossible because all the pearl, lapis, and peri faggot just jerk off over the same 200 pictures they spam over their shit waifu in every single thread.

its just shitposting.
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>>78247637
I'm not periscum, had to quickly google an appropriate picture to go with the text.
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>>78247687
>which discourages content creation
>its just shitposting.

I'm not saying you're entirely wrong but we get a good amount of drawfags so you're 70% wrong.

Although Indexer's not perma-banned from /trash/ yet so that's always a bad thing.
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>>78247777
There is no names so I can't name fag and act pretentious all the time, I don't like it.
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>>78247452
now that i think about it, i think this is the first time ive seen in fiction the idea of a "slave race" that is used purely for decoration

like the idea of a human body used just for its aesthetic value
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>>78248040
Go write shitty fanfics, you could piss off the guy who writes autistic fanfiction as well.
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>>78248040
That faggot who write sad pearl time machine? My fanfictions are much better.

And they aren't shit...
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>>78248187
Go into the thread and call him out. Challenge him if you're better and not shit at writing, what do you have to lose?
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>>78248254
I am much better, and we all know it. I have over FORTY (40) fanfics in my AO3 archive
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>>78248083
I think of it as similar to those weird purebred dogs that get inbred into oblivion just to see if they can make the face even flatter.
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>>78247602
It's because we have a specific topic in threads like this, while /sug/ is just ciclejerking itself with the same shit over and over.

Some anons made it their task to post the same pictures everytime a new thread was made.
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>>78243944
That point, sure. It only knows how to live subservient. Like cattle.
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>>78244144
Indentured servitude is slavery. So you're arguing semantics. To answer your question, yes. It would be. How ethical it is would be another matter entirely. And in this case, slightly trenchant. Pearl lives to serve and obey. Especially Rose. She saw it as the ultimate form if trust. Unquestioning loyalty. "Do it for her." Here's a question to give you some thought. What happens when you order something made to obey to be free?
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Can anyone make a RosePepe, or is it a thing already? Since my trek into 4Chan, i have been quite impressed with the Pepes made, it's quite outstanding.
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>>78244241
Between the bird and Old Steven's uncanny resemblance to Danny DeVito, we need more It's Always Sunny/SU.
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Is Steven Universe good?
Alien artificial intelligences which can combine sounds cool, but the character designs are pretty eh.
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>>78249443
A quick bit of Google reveals this monstrosity.
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>>78249474
Just give it a try. Its 11 min per episode.

But the first 10 are really slow because this is a show that needs time to build everything from the world to the character interaction.

But the only way to find out if you like it is to give it a try.
(The combination you spoke of appears first in episode 11 or 12. So stay on a bit)
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>>78249540
Thanks Anon, but I was looking for SmugRosePepe (My fault, should have been specific)
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>>78249564
Rose pepes are rare fäm, I have every other gem but Rose is nowhere to be found
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>>78249593
REEEEmethyst (the one where she fights Pearl in the kindergarten) is my fave SUPepe. Do you happen to have that one?
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>>78249616
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>>78249689
Thank you so much Anon. Clearly a god among men ;-;
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>>78249555
Is it a continuity heavy series?
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>>78250136
Moreso than your typical cartoon, but nit as much as, say, Avatar. Somewhere between Gravity Falls and Gargoyles.
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>>78250136
Yes, you really need to watch the entire thing to appreciate it
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>>78238454
So Lapis is a Government Official? If I remember correctly the symbol that the water formed when she was freed was something like a Princess Cut for gems.
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>>78233992
Rose set her free and gave her free will. Unfortunately it seems like she didn't do much with it.
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>>78236679
I feel like step one would be to separate the gem shards.
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What would happen if steven net Arnold(frmo hey arnold) they both have the power of solving peoples problems down well and they both have their own problems.
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>>78249443
Best one will always be this one.
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>>78234464
What fic?
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>>78233992
Love.
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>>78250136
Not only that, but things that appeared in earlier episodes only to make sense with context of later ones.

So you might start to aprechiate SU a bit later when you are in the series
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>>78235149
So would that mean that Steven's Gem has extra power because his body is organic and can operate by itself (provided he eats and drinks and so on)?
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>>78250333
I think you meant thirst
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>>78238454
I'm still pretty sure that Pearls are made in much smaller batches than the mass-produced other gems, which is also why they're looked down on. Like I'd wager most gem production focuses on quantity so even within the same batch there's a random variant of appearance and personality quirks.

But Pearls, each one is artisinally designed from their physical appearance down to their personality. Thus most are seen as only their programing.
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>>78236496
Future Vision isn't perfect. It can only compute based on available information.

She never would have considered that pearl would do something like that.
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>>78239686
They'd probably just think of sex as another human way of displaying affection.
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>>78239097
Stop posting from the grave, Douglas.
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This show sucks. Stop talking about the "lore"
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When will we get to see the legendary Homeworld warrior Kidney Stone?
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>>78250643
Ooh, you sure trolled us! You should report back to leddit immediately so you can be lauded for your worthwhile and important efforts and also not come back
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>>78249689

Looking at this makes me laugh harder than it should.
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>>78241992
Rose is dead and the closest thing Pearl has to her is Steven.
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>>78250645

Given the fact that a fair number of the show's staff browses 4chan or are at least heavily involved in the fandom, I fully expect a Kidney Stone background cameo in a future episode.
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>>78250749
Oh, you're laughing as hard as you should. This scene was REEEEEEEEE incarnate, which is why the image is sooo good.
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If pearls are made to serve what the heck happens to the malformed pearls because sometimes pearls can be malformed
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>>78250946
Discarded immediately.
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>>78250946
They're more accessories than servants, I'm sure some malformed pearls would be considered oddities and some collectors would display those retarded peals proudly.
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>>78250946
Honestly that comes to mind is a hunchbag or an egore for a mad scientist
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>>78250946

They get ground up, mixed back into the nacre paste supply, and piped back to the artificial bivalve banks so a newer, better Pearl can be hand-crafted for some lucky soul.
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http://stevencrewniverse.tumblr.com/post/135396906890/we-were-the-most-reblogged-animated-tv-show-on
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>>78251147
After all the shit tumblr has pulled involving SU, I'm sure Rebecca isn't actually all that happy.
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>>78251117
what if you want a malformed pearl?
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>>78251147
>most reblogged animated series
>implying that that is something to be proud of
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>>78251147
Rebecca doesn't seem all that happy about it.
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>>78251147
Oh my god literally who gives a shit WHEN THE FUCK ARE WE GETTING NEW EPISODES
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>>78251306
Either mid-January or early February, if I had to guess.
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>>78251335
>early February
I don't think I can last that long anon
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>>78244213
What a disgusting post.
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>>78251367
It could be even later anon. I remember when AT went on a hiatus from December to April.
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>>78251167

Then everyone starts whispering about you being a deviant, and next thing you know the country club won't let you in any more.
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>>78251367
You can do it, anon! I believe in you!
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>>78252209
>Steven "The Rock" Universe
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>>78250566
Which makes me think that every so often they get heavily deformed Pearls like the defect clones from Dead Leaves which they all haul to a type of junkyard (which is where our Pearl would'v went to because of her defectiveness).

It's also possible that Pearl also look different from other Pearls but just not super malformed, like even the smallest quirk is not acceptable for distribution.

Another great contribution to the "Pearls are manufactured people" theory is here>>78234205
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>>78243283
>It didn't seem like "give other women a shot
That wasn't what I was implying what I meant is that Greg seems like teh type that introduces himself to women he's interested in by going "Hi I'm Greg want to get married!?" he falls completely in love with absolutely every woman that turns his head which probably ends bad for him when they don't reciprocate. Couple this with the idea that his primary (or only) qualification for being attracted to someone is their height then that means that he is regularly professing his undying love to people he doesn't know like some total nutcase and even worse than them saying "no" is if they say yes but are a bad person he could be getting mixed up with someone potentially dangerous.
After all when Greg decided that he was staying in Beach City with Rose he knew nothing about her other than that she is about 8 feet tall and possibly not a human being she could have just as easily turned out to be some kind of murderous monster for all he knew.

I'm not trying to say Marty was a good person or even that he cared about Greg but he made a good point.
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If they took out the singing, up the ante on fights and lore, I would love this show.
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>>78252243
I think we're on different pages here. What I'm saying is that EVERY Pearl looks very different than other Pearls, because each one is custom made. Like individually created by the whims of whoever commissioned one, so height, voice, color etc are all controlled by their maker. There wouldn't be a 'template' to follow.
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>>78233800
>artificial intelligence
It's magic, anon, it's magic
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>>78235200
That's what fusion does
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>>78252989
Are you implying there is a difference?
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>>78242425

These are all so good that none of them will actually happen in the show.
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