so is her kind an artificial intelligence of sorts or just a slave race ?
Somewhere in between. Pearls aren't artificial; their as legit and alive as any other gem, but their role they are born to fulfill is a subservient one. A slave is a role someone is forced into, where this is just the intended purpose of a Pearl; what they are made for and expected to do.
Most types of gems are technically "slaves", in that their role in life is predetermined and they are mostly subservient to higher castes. But Pearls are probably near the bottom of the totem pole, so yes; they are the slaviest of slaves.
I think this pretty much nails it.
The pearls seem to have the simplest of roles with little or no responsibilities besides entertaining/pleasing whoever they're supposed to be committed to.
So did fans come up with the idea of pearls first or did the show do it first?
Different in what sense?
In that case: Experience.
She lived with Rose and her rebels for who-knows-how-many years/decades/centuries. She had to pick up some new skills or be a burden to her friends who were in danger of being annihilated by Homeworld.
Being immortal, she has had plenty of times to learn and refine herself.
I have a theory that Pearls are sold all across the galaxy and that aliens of multiple origins own Pearls and they're either sold illegally in slave markets because they're seen as living beings or if they are just seen as basically sentient I-phones and they are advertised all over the place like in galactic malls and such.
I'm waiting for an episode where Homeworld Pearls are brought in and the others have to work out on how awkward it is, they're reactions (especially Pearl and Steven's) would be interesting.
I'd assume it's because she has learned new stuff and moved so severely from her traditional role as a pearl, not because there's something physically/mentally wrong with her.
Amethyst is a case of a legitimately defective gem. She's literally a midget, it's confirmed that her kind shouldn't be built like she is.
I think this is correct, though they may also be a kind of artificial intelligence depending on the origins of the gem race, could be that the gems are supercomputers that Skynetted their creators then kept on keeping on, or they could be a method a previous race used to gain immortality through computation.
They certainly seem unlikely to have evolved naturally, but I guess it's possible
Damnit, Anon. Now I have to add a homeworld pearl to my fic.
Amethysts might even be worse then Jasper, I can see then as I much more monstrous sub-race with more animalistic features, after all, Amethyst herself displayed some animalistic properties.
>scratching herself with her foot
>walking on all fours
>living and finding comfort in a literal dump
>growling and hissing
It's possible that Amethysts are highly regarded Gems that are very high on Homeworld's food chain seeing as they're quartz gems like Rose.
How about an episode where Pearl gets drafted by Gem soldiers and they bring her to a "Pearl Junkyard" where she will be recycled into a new Pearl or grinded up to use her shards for other purposes. I can see Pearls being a "artifical" gem that's mass produced or Gems that are bred specifically to be slaves and sometimes they get aesthetically unpleasing and deformed defects or ones that don't operate like the others (like our Pearl).
It would be a great redemption arc for Pearl where she acts as a liberator to these trashed mistakes.
Both amethysts and jaspers seem to be great fighters, but with those animalistic streaks I'm beginning to think amethysts would be natural footsoldiers at the bottom of the chain of command while jaspers have more authority.
Jasper was able to boss Peridot around when they came of Earth, after all.
shes just a high class whore, sort of like a geisha
The real question is did Rose get Pearl as a gift, buy her for herself, or just find her in a dumpster and brought her home?
So if pearls are a type of slave race could buyer's customize them like color, size, shape and what they're good at?
She seems to have limited mass when it comes to her "base form".
There's one episode where she tries to "resurrect" as something bigger and her limbs just become horribly malformed.
Homeworld must have some kind of superialist food chain where depending on the Gem is how they are viewed and treated like Diamonds and Quartz would be on the top meaning Amethyst would be seen as something of an idol, Peridot even directly said that she should be the leader because of the fact she's a Quartz gem.
Peridot is a type of Olivine which is not a Diamond/Quartz master race quality gem but respectable enough to have jobs like technician in what is presumably a Gem military core.
there will never be an episode where Amethyst is on homeworld and she's treated as a princess because of her status and is given servants and anything else she wants
To call Pearls a slave class is probably not entirely correct. I think they're pretty far down on the caste system, but at the same time they're not exactly going to be doing manual labor.
I think of them more as maids, or dancers. And they're clearly seen as some kind of status symbol or luxury, since Peridot laughs at the idea of a Peridot owning a Pearl.
>off the shoulder
Why is Pearl slutting that hard? Rose isn't around
That's all she's done so far
I hope so, considering how different real pearls can be from each other.
Basically designer babies optimized for servitude. They're real living creatures, but they are engineered to look pretty and love nothing more than cleaning and carrying your luggage.
Remember that the only one describing the role of Pearls explicitly so far is Peridot, a similarly low level functionary who probably has a lot riding on the fact that as a technical expert she's at least better than a Pearl. If they're custom built servants for the elite I see no reason to believe the other Pearls aren't similarly hypercompetent - think of your average executive PA.
Hold on a second.
Pearl is insanely powerful.
She just doesn't realize it.
Holograms that have her level of capability in battle.
Incredible feats of calculation and engineering.
A wrath which can extend past all time.
All against a species which has one vulnerable weak point.
She never was the weakest. She just didn't consider that she could be the strongest.
Public fucking while both parties are armed with multiple weapons and are openly
I think pearls do more than that.
They're supposed to be beautiful and pleasing to the eye according to Peridot, and Pearl is a natural dancer. They're probably entertainers of some sort more often than anything else.
Better than that, Homeworld arrives again. She's standing there, waiting for them. They laugh at Pearl and she just stands there, eyes filled with fury and rage.
Then she says, "Squad one, fire"
And an artillery strike lands at the Homeworld welcoming crew's feet.
But they are tougher than most, and some survive.
And Pearl says, "Squad two, fire."
And a payload of chemical weapons built to eat away at Gems lands as she puts on her gas mask.
And Pearl says, "Welcome to Earth. Please return my sisters, or this is what shall become of the rest of you."
And Homeworld will watch on in horror.
And Pearl will laugh, and say "What, did you not expose me to equivalent horror? Karma has come for you, my former masters."
What if when they go back the entire world is taken over by pearls and the different types of pearls are having a turf war over the planet.
I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if Yellow Diamond took note of Pearl's peformance during the war, and has at least one Pearl as an enforcer/bodyguard.
Still pathologically loyal, but trained to focus all her energy on combat.
Pearl is feeling sad today, draw her some cool friends to cheer her up!
Actually, that reminds me, how is Garnet in any way a logical victim here? Sure, Pearl was being a bastard, but she was being a clever bastard. Garnet had forknowledge of aformentioned bastardry and did nothing to prevent it.
I like to think in SU-Earth the US Declaration of Independence reads "life, liberty, and public fucking while both parties are armed with multiple weapons and are openly brandishing them."
You know how they bubble all the gems they find in hopes of finding a way to fix them? How the fuck are they going to fix the Clusters?
I can see Steven maybe finding a way to make them coherent enough to have sapient thought but I don't think you could fix them without finding the rest of their gems, and who knows how long that would take.
Shit man, I was just making a rough projection. You really think that's grounds for killing oneself? If that's true, then you must do some really impressive stuff. I'd love to see your work so I could improve.
The Gems work like a physical caste system
Shes a Space Butler Caste
What would be the benefit? You'd just have soldiers that are weaker than the ones they have now. What's the point of making a knife when you already have the facilities to make guns ready to start?
I theorized that gems were caste-based and had custom servant lifeforms and MTOs before the show overtly called Pearl an MTO.
Personally I love the idea of gems having a sort of caste society based on function, but that's 'cuz I'm a transformers fan.
So how do you think the showdown is going to happen? Because by the time they face Yellow Diamond in the show Steven's going to have mastery over the shield where he could probably wield it without getting tired for days. But I doubt he could actually hurt YD, so my guess is the fight will end in a stalemate with both of them not being able to hurt the other and eventually start talking about things.
It would fit the theme of Steven bringing people around by taking the time to talk and be nice, he's already done it with Peridot.
i`m sort of imagining a "topple the king" scenario, where the Gems spend 10+ episodes in Gem Homeworld, as Steven and the gems slowly start an uprising, while YD continuously sends troops/guards to find and kill them off.
This will eventually lead to the climatic face-off, where steven will try to talk it out, but YD just won`t be having any of it and probably be completely pissed that all she`s worked for is getting fucked.
Then again, this is all headcannon shit and i`m probably fucking losing it by being in this thread.
I'm convinced that are gems are A.I. created bu superior beings to take care of roles they didn't want to do themselves. Eventually they either rised up against them or their creators decided to leave, making the gems fend for themselves.
Basically, they are all computers programmed with feelings.
I had these whole idea for a lovecraft type horror fic about malformed humans with gem shards protruding from they're body but I never went through with it
They're aliens mang, aliens that knew nothing about the other beings living on the planet they came to while trying to procreate, they probably did some fucked up experiments on them for kicks, also, if I was Yellow Diamond I would try to invest in some unstoppable mutant soldiers that have the ability to fight without rest like Gems and not be in danger of being "poofed" like humans.
Gems could be an ancient species that existed longer then most other species in the galaxy and never had anything to do with a species that was in all points, still in it's infancy stages until of course they found out they were killing their own planet while reproducing and went to operate on other planets instead.
Or, for all we know Gems could be part of some H.P. Lovecraft shit where they created human beings either directly or indirectly.
Any gem ranging from Quartz, Olivine and maybe even lower, depending on whom the "Pharoahs" of homeworld deem worthy of having such responsibilities so the only class that's not exclusive to specific types of gems however, Diamonds are always on top.
Quartz gems such as Rose, Amethyst and other buff or exceptionally powerful gems such as Jasper.
Olivine class gems such as Peridot
>Merchants, Artisans and Farmers
I can imagine Rubies and Sapphires being all of these along with other smaller and "weaker" gems
Pearls, their not even seen as people but more like tools or drones, theirs nothing lower then a Pearl.
Why did you not go through with the idea sound good to me?
If these were the next set of episodes how hyped would you be based solely on the names and what would be the plots of said episodes?
>Together at Last
>The Lost Cosmonaut
>The Ultimate Gem
>Behind Their Backs
>From Homeworld With Love
>Platoon of Pearls
>Steven's Guide to Life on Earth
>Day of the Diamonds
>So Long, and Thanks for the Donuts
She probably was defective and was treated as such. Rose was the first Gem to treat her with love and respect (hence her secret resentment towards Steven and her open resentment towards Greg)
Yeah, I mean, it's inconsistant episode to episode. Hopefully we get that cleared up, the only one who could would be Peridot.
She said Amy shoulda been bigger, but then Garnet is able to turn into a tentacle monster no problem.
>Not So Long, and Thanks for All the Doughnuts
Probably something like the amalgamates from Undertale. They're still stuck together in horrible misshapen blobs and can't think coherently, but they can at least live peacefully with the rest of society.
It would be awesome if it turned out to be an entire society of horribly deformed gem/human hybrids that were spawned from experimentation living underground with all of them being in varied forms of deformities and profoundness of gem shards coming out of they're bodies and having sort of a prophecy that indirectly involved Steven as a messiah like, "prophecy states that a perfect hybrid of flesh and stone with beauty and radiance beaming from they're body instead of ugliness will come and lead us out of the underground and into radiant paradise!"
And of course the Gems, espicially Garnet would be highly against these things and cause a bigger conflict like a war or genocide to the "overworlders"
I would highly appreciate this outcome as a fan of dystopian, sub-human plots.
I agree this would be pretty awesome story
A society of deformed gem/human mutants sounds interesting, do you think they would get along with the Clusters? They didn't become aggressive until Steven showed up, so maybe they just hang around.
I think that, based on the fact that Jasper could immediately tell that our Pearl was defective, that regular Pearls must have some overt visual differences. In fact, I think that a lot of Pearl's design comes from her defects.
>Regular pearls are probably round.
>As a result, their heads are probably more round too.
>Smaller noses, if any.
>Neat hair, meats up into a perfect point at the back.
>Less pointed, smaller feet.
>Possibly a longer dress.
You can see how a lot of her features are kind of off, especially in her younger design.
i wonder if the gems would be OK with havin protected sex with steven, i mean, they are not human, they have shown to not have human qualms or hang ups.
i could see at least amethyst doing it just as "another thing humans do" without thinking too much of it
In the latest episodes her head has gotten rounder, it's been steadily getting rounder as the show goes on. I think it might just be the storyboaders working together better and having their styles clash less noticeably.
The Clusters could be anything from dangerous pests that endanger they're every day lives or domesticated pets they managed to tame or both depending!
Hell, being underground sub-humans they may need to survive by stealing food, clothes and other resources from the surface and send the Clusters to do that so they don't have to risk themselves getting seen by normal humans. Seeing as this kinda has a conspiracy theory kinda vibe to it, I can see Ronaldo getting involved like he took multiple photos of what appear to be entrances to the underground and candid videos of deformed, human-like creatures roaming the city at night and brought it to the Gem's attention.
A bunch of dying creatures were injected with stuff to keep them alive, and it worked but caused them to melt together into jumbled combinations of body parts very similar to the gem fusion monsters.
In the happiest ending they peacefully live alongside everyone else, though they're still freaky things of debatable sentience.
Yeah, I've noticed that a bit too, but a lot of her design sheets still give her an oval-ish head, so I'm still going with that for now.
Spaceship Pearl for another comparison. Parts of the design really seem disproportionate to me, especially the arms and hands. I know that the gems aren't human, but even compared to other gem designs she looks kind of odd.
And forgot the image.
>The Crystal Gems
>Listening to Ronaldo "not a rapist" Fryman
Odds are they'll dismiss him until one tries to steal stuff from the temple.
I'd imagine smarter one's have to take care of their less intelligent spices. But sometimes a few escape. Or they could be waiting for a cure of some sort so they send some out to look for it.
She's not, from a gem perspective. From a human perspective it seems like she's in the right, but as far as gem culture goes, fusion is a weird magic thing solely for combat. She's kind of being perverse.
Centipeetle is purified and makes it back to the team but is still slightly feral from years of being corrupted
>Together at Last
Steven and one of the Gems fuse and that gem constantly wants to stay fused with him (most likely Pearl)
Purified Centipeetle is eating every inorganic material all over town (cars, sides of walls etc.) and the gems have to find out why
>The Lost Cosmonaut
A Russian cosmonaut comes back to Earth after being lost in space ever since the advent of Sputnik and claims to have been on Homeworld.
Peridot unexpectedly gets a cold and the ailment effects her in unimaginable ways
>The Ultimate Gem
A Homeworld bred Amethyst comes to Earth and overwhelms the gems with it's power and Amethyst has a crisis on who she really is
>Behind Their Backs
Amethyst goes to the Homeworld Amethyst to learn more about herself and feels like she belongs but will she betray the gems in favor f the purple behemoth?
Steven and Peridot find the homeworld Amethyst's ship and Steven learns more about homeworld
>From Homeworld With Love
A missile that will exterminate all life on Earth is sent and the Gems are powerless to stop it until the homeworld Amethyst does the unexpected and saves Earth from it and claims to be on it's side
>Platoon of Pearls
Wanting to show the Gems that they can trust her the homeworld Amethyst supplies her ship to the Gems and everything in it including her entire harem of Pearls which Steven and others use in their daily lives, getting Pearl very upset
Two under experienced aliens calling themselves the planet jackers come to Earth and claim to be it's new rulers without any weapons or anything (Steven ends up making friends with them in the end)
>Steven (and Connie's) Guide to Life on Earth
Steven and Connie show Peridot and Homeworld Amethyst (now called Alpha) how great life on Earth can be when they start missing their lives and belongings there
interesting, rose WAS the taller one on the group and when she left it seems garnet became the defacto leader
and when the homeworld gems came jasper seemed to be the one in charge.
then its enfazised when they talk about how amethyst should be the leader and she should be taller.
maybe gem world actually is that petty that they see literal height as a sign of rank, maybe sucrose is letting her fanatism for zim influence the show in more ways than one
>Pearls, their not even seen as people but more like tools or drones, theirs nothing lower then a Pearl.
The way Peridot talks almost makes Pearls come across as some sort of hogh end pet; like a designer dogbreed.
The Lost Cosmonaut (let's call him Vladimir) breaks into the temple and loots the arsenal, now armed with Gem weaponry he goes off to the Kindergarten to restart it
>Day of The Diamonds
Yellow Diamond lands on Earth with her sisters Red and Blue Diamond after getting word of Alpha and Peridot's betrayal and the reactivation of the Kindergarten (all thanks to Vladimir) the Crystal Gems get a taste of just how powerless they are without Rose‘s help.
>So Long, and Thanks for All the Donuts - It’s Earth vs. Homeworld, can everything that the Gem’s have learned, their new friends and the weaponry they have accumulated help them trump the monumentous opposition of the Diamonds and their advanced technology? Can the Earth be saved despite the massive opposition?
>It's been over two months since the last episode.
>Likely another month until new episodes air again.
>only one person mentioning Tumblr
It's a good day.
You're probably right about Amethyst, considering how she also loves to eat and sleep despite not needing to as a gem.
I'm guessing Pearl would find it weird and awkward. And maybe even icky.
Can't say what Garnet would think of it.
Do you think we'll ever meet THE Alexandrite? Pearl, Amethyst and Garnet were too at odds to let a personality form, but do you think there'll ever be a situation where we can meet her for real?
We did when she was chasing the bus. Her voice was more apparent and she was able to run at a high enough speed to catch a bus. Its obvious that Alexandrite is a lot more stable when all 3/4 Gems have a set mission in mind.
If you don't like crying and singing, this is definitely not the show for you.
Speaking of fusions, is anyone else annoyed by the fact that Sardonyx broke the mythology theme?
>Opal is based on the Hindu Goddess Kali.
>Sugilite is based on a Oni.
>Sardonyx is a...magician.
Its just so odd to me.
It's just the multiple arms thing that made them Hindu. Sugilite gives me more of a punk rocker vibe.
For that matter, there's nothing very Kali-ish about Opal other than "they've got extra arms." Kali is a brutal, ugly war goddess who slices the hands off criminals, not an elegant, taciturn dancer.
Kali has 2 sides anon. One is the hand cutting, severed head collecting war Goddess, and the other a Goddess of children and motherhood.
Plus, Opal eve has Kalis ponytail and general outfit scheme.
I got a big ol dick and I like the show just fine
I turn down the volume any time a song comes on and nobody knows I enjoy this show irl
I'm looking at a lot of artwork of Khali and none of it gives me an Opal vibe. Most Khali art has her wearing almost no clothes at all, with big tusky teeth and wild hair. Lakshmi fits Opal much better - kindly, beautiful, four arms, uses a bow, associated with light.
Actually, if anything, that makes Sugilite a pretty good Khali. She's tusky, violent, and ugly, but she's also genuinely affectionate towards Steven.
Maybe there are magic floating rocks island and a island filled with gold fish that smile back at you. But I gotta wonder how some of the corrupted gem even got on some of those places like the island or that Giant black bird called the Roc
Depends what you mean.
>Gems that take animal form
Kinda the corrupted gems, but it's not by choice. Maybe there are more bestial gems on homeworld though.
>Animals affected by the Gems
Lion may or may not end up being that, it's still a mystery.
But there's the crystal shrimp from the sea spire that appear to be fully alien creatures.
And then there's lion's lunch here. It clearly didn't poof after getting half it's body eaten off, so probably not any kind of gem, but clearly has some gems in it.
>Stop posting images on this image board!
Fusions are probably considered without rank. After all, if any two Gems could do a little dance and instantly become stronger and smarter, then the whole caste system breaks down. It's another reason why Peridot thinks staying fused all the time is weird, because on Homeworld, Gems likely just fuse long enough to do a task and then break up before they start getting ideas.
So on top of the stuff about Fusion being like having sex while openly carrying guns, imagine that while they're having their shootfucking, the partners are also shouting "Fuck the system! Down with authority!"
Fucking where? This whole thread has been people theorizing and conversing about the show, something /sug/ never does.
Grandpa is proud of every anon here for staying on topic and comprising profound ideas and thoughts about the show as a thread should do!
>No appreciation for musical narrative
I pity thee.
God damnit I keep forgetting that's there.
Everybody's boon companion
Pearl is referred to as if she's part of a number of Pearls at least twice by my knowledge in Season 1 - Rose calls her "My Pearl," and Jasper calls her "some lost, defective Pearl." There's probably a ton of more subtle ones out there.
>Jasper calling Pearl "a lost, defective Pearl"
>Pearl saying that she's usless on her own because she's "just a Pearl" in "Friend Ship"
>Pearl's reaction to Rose in "Rose's Scabbard" looked like a peasant reacting to Royalty
>Pearl always doing household chores, to the point of replacing all the other names on the chore wheel with her own
Like something out of Limbo? Sounds fun.
>Pearl always doing household chores, to the point of replacing all the other names on the chore wheel with her own
Well, at least the Pearls supposedly enjoy their work?
Maybe that just makes it more tragic.
>I don't want the NSA to know I'm into a girly cartoon
>Not being out and proud.
I don't think they're really slaves just born to serve secretaries. As far as we know peridot was just butthurt a purse Chihuahua(cared for and treated better than most gems) learned to do her life purpose(Engineering) and was able to learn beyond their programming(fighting)
If Peridot dies during the inevitable Yellow Diamond battle, that's it. I'm out. I am fucking out.
Also to anyone that has one of these abominations: have you tried painting the eyes like this? Does that make it better? I actually kinda want one if this wouldn't be a waste of time.
Why does this ship make my heart die a little more inside every single time?
Does anyone else want Homeworld to win?
Not even being a contrarian, it would just bug me if Homeworld has to job because Friendship is Magic.
They can travel the galaxy; why on earth have they not just glassed Earth and found somewhere else to put a Kindergarten on? They're immortal; they could check back in a few million years and there would be life to restart the Kindergarten.
Unless the Gem Civil War really did fuck homeworld into a state of disrepair, it's going to bug me of the Crystal Gems alone can actually win.
It's not just the "peasant reacting to royalty" part. Rose calls her "My Pearl," at the end of her speech, and earlier in the episode, Pearl is so staunch that Rose could never lie to her because their relationship was deep and special. This implies that there's more than one Pearl out there, and Pearl and Rose's close relationship was uncommon - in itself, implying that Pearls are low on the totem pole.
They decided taking back the Earth wasn't worth the effort, and decided to use it to test out their fusion experiments instead.
It makes sense, from their perspective. They have nothing to lose and might gain a useful new tactic.
>so is her kind an artificial intelligence of sorts or just a slave race
She is as much of a AI as any other gem.
None of them are biological beings they are all intelligent rocks and they are all created to serve a specific purpose or role in gem civilization.
The real question is where did the first gems come from? did they form naturally? were they created by a different race? or where they at one point another race themselves that became the gem race we see?
How about other alien beings in the SU universe based on other things like a metal based race called the Forged or a gas based race called the Smog?
That sounds really cool to me.
>Because it did not happen and thus never can.
Sh-shut up-p. ;_;
Cheer up anon. At least it's not worst ship imaginable.
>it's going to bug me of the Crystal Gems alone can actually win.
I doubt that it will be a simple matter of brute force between the Crystal Gems and the entirety of Homeworld.
There will be redemption, or civil war, or Homeworld will decide that Earth simply isn't worth the trouble, leaving the Crystal and few reformed Homeworld gems to fester there in peace.
Not in my country. In my country's slave culture in history, slaves at first may be made, but those children of those slaves born are slaves too. Of course that was ancient history.
Fun fact. When slavery was abolished in my country, many of the slave families begged not to be free, because to them, slavery was an easier life. As Red said in Shawshank Redemption, they have been institutionalized.
If Steven Universe has done anything right it's not making anyone look like heroes or villains, Homeworld trying to destroy all the life on Earth seems heinous and evil but the reality is that they are simply trying to ensure their race continues in the only way they know and it's highly suspect that Homeworld is in a state of depression and disrepair and Rose may seem like the hero for defending Earth but she betrayed and screwed over her own kind in favor of human beings because she had a moral high ground that can seem very unmoral from Homeworld's perspective.
Jasper seems like a class-a villain but she's really just a soldier fighting for what is seen as a noble cause by her species hell, Peridot seemed bad too until she started to help the Gems with the cluster situation and episodes like Too Far and the rain episode (forgot what it was called) showed that Peridot has humanity and emotions.
Everybody in this show has something worth fighting for and it's seen as a very bad thing to the other side, who knows? Maybe even Yellow Diamond, a character that has so far been portrayed as a dark, sinister "holy shit we're all going to do die" character will turn out to be a tragic, begotten leader who must hold the burden of ruling over her people and keep them in good spirits as they're planet is rotting deeper into disrepair but can be seen as something completely different to the opposite side, sort of like Asgore from Undertale and it would actually be really cool if she turned out to be like this character who looks menacing and evil but is only trying to do the right thing.
The main reason why Rose is seen as the hero is because she protected humanity, that's us, we will naturally go to the side of the person who protected us with out knowing the other side of the story, It would be a fantastic arc in the story if Rose is portrayed as anything but a hero.
I still disagree; enough that even as children they had to be brought up as slaves. Else, they would have questioned their station. Thus leading to free thought and action. Which is innate to mankind. Slaves brought up under slavery need to be taught it and fed it routinely to be institutionalized. As I said. Made. Not born.
>like having sex while openly carrying guns, imagine that while they're having their shootfucking, the partners are also shouting "Fuck the system! Down with authority!"
I want someone to draw this now.
Ruby and Sapphire having sex, shooting random people in with automatic weapons in one hand shouting the "fuck the system!" line.
It was really hot to see Peridot groping Pearl's ribbon, invading her personal space, and generally talking about her as if she were an object.
>If Steven Universe has done anything right it's not making anyone look like heroes or villains
To the point that I really hope we meet him in a later episode and find out that how he was portrayed in Story For Steven was colored by Greg's bias. I mean, he had shark teeth for crying out loud.
I randomly wonder, what would Pearl and Peridot become if they fused?
I'm kind of imagine...
Trinitite (a radioactive glass formed by nuclear bomb tests around Trinity, New Mexico. Intelligent beyond anything else, but highly unstable and increasingly harmful unchecked. (sort of playing off the "promises of the nuclear age" along with "the terrors/dangers of nuclear sciences"
It's got the right colors, too, Anon. You might be onto something.
Steven manages to cure Centipeetle and she returns to her humanoid self, but it has a tragic end when the cure turns out to be only temporary.
>Together at Last
Something to do with Stevonnie and/or Lapis.
Garnet encounters something that triggers Ruby, Sapphire, or both to start fulfilling their designed purpose, causing Garnet to split.
>The Lost Cosmonaut
A gem who has been stuck in space crash lands on Earth, not knowing that the rebellion ever happened
The CGs get put out of commission by some kind of Gem disease, and Steven has to deal with some kind of monster on his own.
>The Ultimate Gem
Flashback about a time when all the CGs (including Rose) formed the temple fusion.
>Behind Their Backs
The CGs learn that Peridot had planned to betray them, though she had abandoned this plan by the time she gets found out and has to convince them she's changed.
Rose trapped Lapis in the mirror.
>From Homeworld With Love
Dealing with the Cluster
>Platoon of Pearls
Earth is invaded by an army of Pearls.
The ship begins bringing the entire planet Earth to Homeworld.
>Steven's Guide to Life on Earth
On route to Homeworld, Steven teaches the Pearls about Earth.
Steven learns the full story of Rose's rebellion.
>Day of the Diamonds
The CGs are caught in the middle of a battle between Blue, White, and Yellow Diamond.
>So Long, and Thanks for the Donuts
Which is unusual for this series. He's the only character to be 100% a dick.
The shit he likely had to put up with those days after Story For Steven when he was trying to talk sense into Greg.
>don't be monogamous to one women and fuck many as advice
>knocks up a woman and leaves
He deserves being looked badly. It is true he may have had good reasons, and the portrayal seems biased. But the facts do present that he was a man who cannot commit to anything and leaves one thing for another.
Like Greg, unfortunately. We all know he has no home and lives in a van cause he built a home for his son to live with his alien family/guardians, and probably pays for all of Steven's stuffs. But unless he can pull himself out of the slump, society and many will view Greg as a deadbeat dad, even though he is one of the best dads in cartoon history when it comes to emotional and spiritual support.
>>don't be monogamous to one women and fuck many as advice
Is that really how people interpreted that "you want one big woman instead of many small ones" remark?
I interpreted it as him telling Greg not to let his fetish for giant women be his sole reason for falling in love.
It was obvious from their conversation that Greg had fallen in love with big women before and they apparently didn't work out so it seemed like Marty was just telling him to broaden his horizons and not blindly fall in fall hopelessly in love with every stranger that fit his fetish which is pretty good advice since at the time Greg was about to throw his career away for someone he didn't even know based entirely on her height.
Was it? It just seemed more like don't settle for one that you like and go for multiple that you may not like anyway. It didn't seem like "give other women a shot", more of how guys say "don't invest in one chick your whole life, fuck as many as you can" talk that some people I know like to say.
As for the career advice thing. I doubt that was legitimate. The dude brought Greg to beach city, where no one attended, knocked up a girl as his artist was performing and didn't even know if he finished. That may be what happens in real life, but to me that seems like he didn't give a fuck anyway, as long as he got the money. I mean, Marty was a manager, not a friend to Greg, so any advice from him is probably going to be the in the best of interest in their business together and not based on happiness or self fulfillment.
I THROW TRASH EVERYWHERE! AND THEN I START EATING GARBAGE!
>She's got salmon hair
>She's perfect in every way
>Nose not too large
>Not too small
>Not like a bird
>But like a beautiful Gem
>Definitely not like a bird
Slave race. Why? Because it's a more appealing thought.
"Pearl, could you sort these out for me while I tend to the plants?"
"Oh, Pearl... you don't have to call me that."
"..I... I'm sorry." (hurt)
>Amethyst is a case of a legitimately defective gem. She's literally a midget, it's confirmed that her kind shouldn't be built like she is.
Yes... and that she should be a good, obedient soldier.
I say THEY'RE defective.
We already know their society is extremely stratified (sic) and divided into castes. And how dismissive Peridot - herself pretty low on the ladder going by anything she has done and said so far - treated her indicates that Pearls really are slaves. Existing only to stand around and look pretty.
>Peridot seemed bad too until she started to help the Gems with the cluster situation
Right... so Rose is a traitor because she tried to save an entire species of sentient beings as well as all other life on Earth, but Peridot gets a hand-wave because she was ready to betray her people the moment her own life was at stake?
I recently caught up with it after leaving it around halfway through Season 1. I forgot how much of a fun watch it was, but the weirdly, suddenly serious tone the show took sometimes was just a bit out of left field, specially the stuff with Amethyst suddenly caring a whole bunch about that Kindergarten crap.
At this point, Rose is pretty damn mysterious. We don't know what prompted her to go to war, and we don't know what she did to finish it (though we do know that it was enough to whittle down her army to a total of four people). Then there's the walking question mark that is Lion. Plus, the show's already dropped major hints that Rose wasn't entirely a saint.
It's pretty clear the show is leading to some kind of revelation about her, but it's not clear what (though I doubt it's "lol she's evil.")
It was triggered by something, mind - namely, Pearl being all "Oh, what Homeworld did to Earth was terrible, it was such a bad bad thing, so bad we can't tell you," which is in line with them hiding the whole truth from Steven in early seasons and would probably piss anyone off.
>Fun fact. When slavery was abolished in my country, many of the slave families begged not to be free, because to them, slavery was an easier life.
No fucking shit. It's not like they get handed steady employment upon being freed.
And not to mention difference between slave and servant was paid in money or paid in food and place to stay. This isn't "you niggers aren't people" slavers, but "you are slave so earn your rents and food". Really, slavery here is very different than white people's slaves.
Umm, no. Outside of industrial applications like plantations and mines, black slavery was very similar to what you are talking about. The local rich dude with a handful of slaves wasn't treating them like animals, he was treating them like bottom-rung employees would be treated at the time. Which is to say, with wild disrespect and occasional rape, but not too much murder or torture.
You seem to think that slaves not wanting to be made homeless and starve means that slavery was okay or good. That would be a very stupid thing to think, so I suspect I am misunderstanding you.
Slavery's varied a lot over history because the definition of "slave" is "person who is considered another's property." The Turkish janissaries were considered slaves, even though they were well-paid and received a lot of abnormal privileges. Societies that treated their slaves well weren't quite common, but they did exist... though if Pearl's indignation is any indication, Homeworld was not one of those societies.
As gar as I know, we haven't unironically posted a fantasy describing how we're gonna plug up a horse ass and then feed it rotten vegetables until it sits there for a few weeks in the colon until they finally pull the plug and literally let the shit floe downhill.
No. we ain't anything like them. For god sakes, no one deserves to be compared to a pony fucker.
I hope it doesn't happen either, but autism knows no bounds.
Indeed good sir. Slavery or any form of control over another human being and limiting their rights to that extent for the sole purpose of ownership or the illusion of ownership is certainly not a good thing.
My point was, mistreatment of slaves in my country's history wasn't as severe as viewing them as subhuman tools. Still tools, but human tools.
>Pearl's voice sounds horrible
Woah there friend be careful with those hot opinions or you might burn yourself.
But seriously just watch it, the episodes are 11 minutes a piece it won't take up that much time.
wonder if there could be radioactive gems
is there uranium or plutonium out there, and if so, do they have the same toxic properties, would other gems be suceptible or their hard light bodies wouldnt even be affected by radiation?
>It would be a fantastic arc in the story if Rose is portrayed as anything but a hero.
Yeah, i really am looking foward to the "Rose did a lot of fucked up shit during the war" moment
The way characters talk about it and sceneries like the strawberry field (basically a graveyard) make me think the show wouldn't treat the war as a simplistic "good guys knock out bad guys" if they ever want to show it
Rose and Greg's dialogue "I barely know you" "That's a good thing" from We Need To Talk got me really excited for the possibility that Rose has done some really terrible shit and has millennia of blood on her hands
>I always thought I might be bad, but now I'm sure that its true.
>Cause I think you're so good, and I'm nothing like you.
Its obvious that she was most likely the leader of the initial invasion. Hell, she might ave even known about The Cluster.
>The Ultimate Gem
Is this going to be what I hope it's going to be?
>The episode where they deal with the Cluster is called The Ultimate Gem
>They've drilled to the core but they're too late
>The Cluster is starting to reform itself slowly
>Twisted and warped limbs are forming and fighting the gems from all sides
>Steven is dodging the attacking limbs when he starts seeing a glow on all the limbs
>His gem has confused his fight with the Cluster for a dance
>All the gems are blinded by a searing light
>From the Earth's core where the Cluster was incubating a figure emerges
>It opens its eyes
>It speaks words that could frighten even a gem
>"All lives gather as one."
It's worth noting that Yellow Diamond is feared even by her own people (or at least Peridot and Lapis), so it's not simply a matter of being on the opposite side. Although Peridot did call her in a distress signal, so she's probably not all bad.
>I respected your tactics, but this is just sick.
I forget the exact words but Jasper said something like that which says to me the big fluffy sweetheart could be stone cold when the need arose.
I'm thinking Peridot thought that bothering Yellow Diamond with (in Peridot's mind) such a insignificant matter would result in punishment.
Like calling the police because you saw someone smoking in a restaurant.
I read that as Jasper was an older sister
oh look, a super secret /sug/ thread, dont tell the mods, they delete and ban anything SU related on sight.
also reddit steals out ideas and posts them there 3 weeks after we have already figured it out, like literally all the lore and shit was figured out by autists in /sug/. before ever getting on reddit or youtube or whatever.
>yfw pearl's pearl being oblong all series long was actually a plot point of her being deffective.
>yfw the 2 stars in the original opening were a reference to garnet being a fustion
>yfw the very first episodes had reference to the 4 diamond authorities, with rose's always being crushed or defaced somehow
the trash thread are pretty shit, of course i go to them, but there are no names, which discourages content creation, and actually talking about anything is impossible because all the pearl, lapis, and peri faggot just jerk off over the same 200 pictures they spam over their shit waifu in every single thread.
its just shitposting.
>which discourages content creation
>its just shitposting.
I'm not saying you're entirely wrong but we get a good amount of drawfags so you're 70% wrong.
Although Indexer's not perma-banned from /trash/ yet so that's always a bad thing.
now that i think about it, i think this is the first time ive seen in fiction the idea of a "slave race" that is used purely for decoration
like the idea of a human body used just for its aesthetic value
It's because we have a specific topic in threads like this, while /sug/ is just ciclejerking itself with the same shit over and over.
Some anons made it their task to post the same pictures everytime a new thread was made.
Indentured servitude is slavery. So you're arguing semantics. To answer your question, yes. It would be. How ethical it is would be another matter entirely. And in this case, slightly trenchant. Pearl lives to serve and obey. Especially Rose. She saw it as the ultimate form if trust. Unquestioning loyalty. "Do it for her." Here's a question to give you some thought. What happens when you order something made to obey to be free?
A quick bit of Google reveals this monstrosity.
Just give it a try. Its 11 min per episode.
But the first 10 are really slow because this is a show that needs time to build everything from the world to the character interaction.
But the only way to find out if you like it is to give it a try.
(The combination you spoke of appears first in episode 11 or 12. So stay on a bit)
Rose pepes are rare fäm, I have every other gem but Rose is nowhere to be found
Not only that, but things that appeared in earlier episodes only to make sense with context of later ones.
So you might start to aprechiate SU a bit later when you are in the series
I'm still pretty sure that Pearls are made in much smaller batches than the mass-produced other gems, which is also why they're looked down on. Like I'd wager most gem production focuses on quantity so even within the same batch there's a random variant of appearance and personality quirks.
But Pearls, each one is artisinally designed from their physical appearance down to their personality. Thus most are seen as only their programing.
Rose is dead and the closest thing Pearl has to her is Steven.
Given the fact that a fair number of the show's staff browses 4chan or are at least heavily involved in the fandom, I fully expect a Kidney Stone background cameo in a future episode.
I don't think I can last that long anon
You can do it, anon! I believe in you!
Which makes me think that every so often they get heavily deformed Pearls like the defect clones from Dead Leaves which they all haul to a type of junkyard (which is where our Pearl would'v went to because of her defectiveness).
It's also possible that Pearl also look different from other Pearls but just not super malformed, like even the smallest quirk is not acceptable for distribution.
Another great contribution to the "Pearls are manufactured people" theory is here>>78234205
>It didn't seem like "give other women a shot
That wasn't what I was implying what I meant is that Greg seems like teh type that introduces himself to women he's interested in by going "Hi I'm Greg want to get married!?" he falls completely in love with absolutely every woman that turns his head which probably ends bad for him when they don't reciprocate. Couple this with the idea that his primary (or only) qualification for being attracted to someone is their height then that means that he is regularly professing his undying love to people he doesn't know like some total nutcase and even worse than them saying "no" is if they say yes but are a bad person he could be getting mixed up with someone potentially dangerous.
After all when Greg decided that he was staying in Beach City with Rose he knew nothing about her other than that she is about 8 feet tall and possibly not a human being she could have just as easily turned out to be some kind of murderous monster for all he knew.
I'm not trying to say Marty was a good person or even that he cared about Greg but he made a good point.
I think we're on different pages here. What I'm saying is that EVERY Pearl looks very different than other Pearls, because each one is custom made. Like individually created by the whims of whoever commissioned one, so height, voice, color etc are all controlled by their maker. There wouldn't be a 'template' to follow.