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Justice League #46

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Who's ready for a storytime
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hell yea thanks op
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>>78219761
Posting the looney tunes Varient because I like it.
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>>78219773
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>>78219795
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>>78219801
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>>78219811
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>>78219829
THANK YOU BASED JOHNS
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>>78219848
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>>78219860
>Wife
Again thank you Geoff.
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>>78219868
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>>78219885
Thanks for this all well Mr. Johns
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>>78219902
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>>78219916
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>>78219923
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>>78219937
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>>78219945
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>>78219956
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>>78219963
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>>78219974
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>>78219977
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>>78219983
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>>78219996
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>>78220004
And that's it for this month. Check back in a month or so for more Scott and Barda hopefully. and the rest of them I guess.
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Thank you Mr. Cereal.
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>>78219902
Late contender for page of the year
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>>78220025
This is retarded. Aside from Scott and Barda stuff.
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What about the hundred page special?
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>>78220025
Anyone else think Grail is a Mary-sue?
I miss Arthur and Leonard.
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>>78219868
Based Cereal Lord.
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>>78219974
>>78219977
Superkek?
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>>78220130
Pretty much.

She's a really bad OC that I'm not enjoying by the issues. If I wanted some evil character who supported Darkseid, I'd want Granny Goodness who for some reason has made ZERO appearances in the New 52.
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>>78220130
>>78220091
shhh just focus on scott and barda being happily married and in love. this arc was worth it for that alone
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I love abundance of Kirby Dots.
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>>78220130
>>78220173
Do not worry my friends. I'm sure based Johns will give her a painful death at the end of this story
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>>78220130
Grail suffers from OC villain syndrome when new villain has to outfuck and outevil everyone.
Something like Prometheus. Remember him? One hit wonder.
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>>78219860
>Johns completely disregarding the clusterfuck that is Earth 2
Literally the best thing about this entire event.
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I remember "Darkseid's Daughter" being a thing back in Vibe. Was that ever foreshadowed again? like Green Lantern/GLC did for Sinestro War
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>>78220130
Arthur will be back in his own crossover, Rise of Seven Seas.
I'm only not sure will Abnett write Aquaman already or not.
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>>78220225
Shit, left remains of sentence. Meant to say wish for companion series for better pacing/more development/build-up of concepts like SCW did.
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>>78220234
yeah that's the bad thing about this being an event containment book. like it had those tie ins, but it still feels really bloated and slow.
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>>78219977
CLARK GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY HUSBANDO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>78220025
>Goddess
EVERYONE GETS TO BE A GOD

YOU'RE A GOD
AND YOU
AND YOU GET TO BE A GOD
GODHOOD FOR EVERYONE
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>>78220258
Except Steve and Victor
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>>78220025
>No Grail/Kyle beat-em-up final battle utilizing the Life and Anti-Life Equations

Wasted opportunity.
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>>78220262
>>78220258
hal gave his up
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>>78220262
Hal looks at your godhood and mocks you.
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>>78220262
I'm willing to bet at least Cyborg gets to be a god, probably of some dumb technological aspect.
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>>78220258
Well, Grail was a New God to begin with. Now she has a definite aspect she presides over.
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>>78220266
kyles held hostage in a bad book.
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>>78220276
>Cyborg God of Advancement
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So where are they going with this?
everyone's a god and they're all gonna fight anti-monitor?
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>>78220276
well I mean he is already part mother box, and he is regrowing his body.
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>>78220284
>Omega Men
>Bad
Take your shit opinions and go.
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>>78220297
>edgy space terrorists with bad art
>Good
no you move
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>>78219795
Hal is now Batman
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>>78220308
>with bad art
7/10, I figured out your ruse. Well played.
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>>78220276
He'll get his time to shine.
Have we all forgotten the second prologue?
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I haven't read Justice League since the mid-20s, but this looks pretty cool.
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>>78220378
Yeah this arc has been great, and the art has been fantastic
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>>78220365
>Johns
>following through on his promises.

I love the man but he has a history of saying stuff and not delivering
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>>78220365
>>78220414

Remember the start of Trinity War when our Trinity was shown on Earth-3? Then in the final issue that scene was redrawn to show the CSA on Earth-3 instead?
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>>78220365
The second prologue doesn't exactly make sense, in that Billy doesn't have his updated Shazam look. And that for the most part, as always, Cyborg has been practically useless thus far.
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>>78219902
Welp, now I've got a Big Barda if you know what I mean.
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>>78219956
i will never have a qt like barda who towers over me.

>ss the dream
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>>78219795
Why is nuJohns so fucking ON THE NOSE about shit? This is the same shit as muh emotion power rangers.
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>>78220025

isn't JL47 out on 12/30?
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>>78220214

This entire story seems OOC with the rest of the universe.
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>>78219902
this entire storyline is worth it just for this page
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>>78219885
They talk like in old JLI.
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>>78220206
he was pretty good in Midnighter
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>>78219868
All of Johns' recent sins are forgiven for now. Especially since solicits confirm Scott and Barda are here to stay at least for 3 more issues.
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>>78220732
Remeber him during Cry for Justice?
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>>78220799
I'd rather not
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>>78220206
Prometheus was good in multiple Morrison JLA stories and now had a great appearence in Midnighter
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>>78220176
Faggot newbie here. Where can I see more of this? This is the first I've ever read the two of them and I already want more.
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Wow. I was just about to ask whatever happened to that darkseid thing and here it is, still not finished.

I think the last one I read was batman becoming a god on a chair. Is this the one after it or did I miss some chapters?
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>>78220284
I thought Story trumped Continuity?
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>>78220809
Morrison JLA was his first appearance, he appeared once more in that, then died in Gay for Justice

then nothing until Midnighter

Prometheus is the definition of a one-hit wonder
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>>78220025

shouldn't she be part of the source wall or somthing
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>>78219902
I want to hate Johns for some of his decisions but I can't. It's all I wanted and even if DW is a dull event it brought us some decent tie-ins (GL and Shazam especially), it was worth it for finally giving us proper Barda.

new Barda/Scott ongoing when
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>>78220825
Tie ins happened between issues or something like that.
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>>78220858
>wanting things from Johns JL to become ongoings
you're only setting yourself up for disappointment
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>>78219848
>Manapul Barda
only_so_erect.gif
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>>78220817
His solo books and JLI, perhaps?
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>>78220173
Granny and Mantis are still meant to show up. Iirc Godfrey, too.
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>>78220262
Cold and Aquaman didn't become gods either
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>>78220926

mantis was supposed to be part of the shazam one shot. clearly this whole event has been rewritten many times, I doubt he will appear
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>>78220867
To be fair those two have a bigger chance to get an ongoing than Magnus, DP, Ted Kord, Plastic Man, semi-reformed Cold and whatever else out of this run I'm forgetting.
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>>78220946
Johns said he'll be in the main book too, though, around the same time he confirmed Barda. I'd imagine it'll be just a cameo like Kanto and Lashina, though. Or maybe a short fight with Lexseid since it's likely he's going to fight some Darkseid loyalists and Mantis fits the bill.
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>>78220004
>>78220025
>Officially Geoff Johns reimagines Final Crisis
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>>78219902
Man,Steve has such a boner for big girls who can kill him with a flick if their wrist.
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>>78219974
Johns, you started Superman/Wonder Woman in this very title and its own book has been published for two years. You can't run it back now.
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>>78220817
Kirby's Mr. Miracle
JLI
Booster Gold vol. 2
Barda had some appearences in Birds of Prey but iirc Scott was retired at the time
I don't remember all Mr. Miracle runs but there was at least one to avoid because the whole plot was that Scott and Barda had a breakup
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I think one of the main issues with johns is that he likes to build up stuff but for whatever reason he just can't wrap them up

remember the beacon volthoom was supposed to lit across the multiverse?
aquaman being part of this event
Im sure Im missing other stuff
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>>78220973
This is a pretty bad event apart from tie-ins and Scott/Barda but somehow it sucks less than Final Crisis. I guess it's just blandly inoffensive and people don't have equally high expectations for Johns as for Morrison, not to mention that DW doesn't mess with the schedule of other titles.
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>>78220939
Where is Aquaman in all this anyway?
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>>78220994
When Johns is handed events, he writes action blockbuster movie scripts transformed into comic books. Big on ideas and set pieces, low on actual story. It sells well.
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>>78220978
Do you not?
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>>78221004
Banging Mera.
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>>78221004
He was initially meant to be dying in Flash's tie-in, so it's hard to tell.
Cold's probably just chatting with his pals in the JL hq since he wasn't a proper member to begin with.

>>78220994
>Caulder as nemesis for Lex
>Cold planning some grand heist but getting distracted by genuine desire to be a hero
>Ted Kord being relevant
>Plastic Man
>Element Woman

There was a plenty of that.
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>>78220262
Steve doesn't need to be a god. He's a man. With a man's courage.

And he's getting back in Diana's pants where he belongs.
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>>78221004

isnt he being raped by mera on the bunn ongoing?
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>>78221027
Why does Johns keep bringing in characters and seeding arcs despite it being physically impossible for one man to deliver on writing them all?
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>>78220978
>not getting a boner from big gals who can kill you with a flick of their wrist
Are you some kinda fag?
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>>78221027
In nicer world, other writers would launch new books with those plots in mind.
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>>78221050
No he was being raped by Mera's sister.
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>>78221050
Not Mera. Darkseid War happens waaay before that.
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>>78221055
Because he cares too much.
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>>78220214
I couldn't agree more, hell this made it 100% more enjoyable for me too.
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Where's Orion in all of this? I'm hoping for at least for him to show up to fight either Lexseid or Grail.
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All this thing has been a massive clusterfuck and one i don't really care about because at the end nothing happens but i am so happy to see Scott and Barda together again i don't really give a single fuck i am just happy.
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>>78221166
Not appearing. No 'good' New Gods, only the Apokalips ones and Justice League.
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>>78219868
Steve has a type doesn't he?

>That's my wife
Thank you Geoff
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>>78221231

But what about Mister Miracle? That's such a bullshit. No way Orion would be out of this one.
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>>78219848
>>78219860
>>78219868
>>78219902
>>78219974
BASED GEOFF
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>>78219974
> Wonder Woman straight up admitting she and Supes are fuckbuddies
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>>78220266
Good, I'm tired of that special snowflake fuck showing up where he doesn't belong
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>>78220616
Yep
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>>78220980
Lets be real that was probably all jim lee and since it failed on a grand scale yeah time to walk it back
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>>78221330
Grail isn't a 'he' you silly.
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>>78219923

who dat?
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>>78219963
Jesus christ, just get them back together Johns
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>>78220025
This arc has had a lot of fun moments...but the cosmology has been really dumb
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>>78221358
She's one of the ghosts of the Hall of Eternity from Curse of Shazam.
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>>78219773
>Daffy as Green Lantern

Definitely a call back to Duck Dodgers
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>>78221355
I like Grail more than Kyle, at least she's good for a chuckle
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>>78220980
They broke up in SMWW and in Superman he refers to her as his ex, why can't Johns acknowledge that
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>>78221575
Because then you can't have drama
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>>78221575

maybe this is before that? what was the reason of the split up
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>>78219923
That Mary?
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>>78221619
Nope, just one of the ghosts of the Hall of Eternity.
She helped Billy out in Curse of Shazam
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>>78219956
Barda is drawn taller than Scott.
Sweet!
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>>78220204
>painful death
He is just going to have Wonder Woman beat her up. I doubt she dies.
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>>78219761
I still wanna know how Superwoman's baby ties into all this.
Im like 90% sure the baby is related to the Anti Moniter or Darkseid. Its either theirs or some sort of rebirth shit.
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>>78221782
Her baby is Alexander Luthor, he's gonna dick over the Anti-Monitor
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>>78221027
fuck, I forgot we had the goddamn Doom Patrol ready to go, don't remind me, anon
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>>78221782
Alexander Luthor Jr has a speciality in fighting Anti-Monitor
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>>78221792
>>78221803
I refuse to believe Johns will do a complete rehash
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>>78221897
>I refuse to believe Johns will do a complete rehash

Well, it's the son of Alexander Luthor Sr. and Lois Lane from Earth 3....again.
And there's the anti-monitor...again
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>>78221597

Wonder Woman goes behind Superman's back and does something he didn't want her to do in an effort to help him, or something like that. They argue, she asks him to fight for what they have together, he says he has too much shit going on to worry about the proverbial "us" and lets it drop.

Their breakup is still a work-in-progress but over there it's clear that Clark is the one doing the dumping. Geoff probably doesn't care about any of that.
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>>78221958
And /co/ anons will just say Supes is a cuck when HE did the dumping lol fuck this board
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Why did Kalibak and the league even start fighting? Where is this even heading to? Why did Darkseid lunge directly into the fight with AM?

This event makes no sense. Johns is rehashing his old stuff of just throwing characters at each other.
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>>78221924
I said a complete rehash, im just prepared for a fake out
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>>78222195
Well, I think the most likely change is that it's a girl.
There's no way she won't have the same role in the story though.
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>>78222230
Will see, its next month right? Or was it February. God. We'll see when we see it.
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>>78219848
B A R D A
A
R
D
A
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>>78219868
>>78219902
Geoff is so good to us, we don't deserve him. ;_;
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This is even worse than ANADvengers

Thanks OP.
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>>78219974
I guess this confirms that the SMWW breakup was legit and not just a fakeout. Thank god.

Geoff giveth and giveth some more. And all it cost us was the Anti-Monitor.
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>>78220130
I think she's intentionally ridiculous and it hasn't bothered me since she took out the entire JL
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Supes fucked the pussy and didn't want it no more, oh well, it was great while it lasted. Supes fans made it out the trenches without a scratch.
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>>78221055
I think that's just his style. It seems like he's always seeded a lot of different plots as a contingency for future stories if he runs out of ideas and needs to stay on a book. Sometimes it works out as something cute another writer uses like Rip Hunter being Booster's son but most of the time it just gets ignored
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>>78219974
>>78219977
>death flag alert
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>>78219983

Johns really hates batman.

>>78220258
How else would you sell toys with new suits.
>>78220799
He was OP in cry for justice, it's just that the story was bad. But just like Darkseid war it had great art.
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>>78221958
I've got you

But yeah between this, what Yang said in an interview, and the upcoming solicit seems like the Superbooks are just going to get them out of the potential awkwardness of the breakup back to normal teammate stuff. Which I guess might mean that DW is actually after the current arcs and not before them like we had assumed. Not that it matters, but funny how that works.
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>>78221897

Flashpoint was house of M, Forever Evil was done before in earth 2. Johns rehash stuff all the time. As long as it's good there's no problem.
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>>78222691
No fuck off
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>>78222693
Eh, I thought his plans were pretty stupid really but good art can only get you so far.
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>>78220308

Literally kill yourself
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>>78219868
Is this the time one that was in earth 2 or what?
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>>78222959
>he didn't read the Multiversity guidebook that explained everything
>he hasn't embraced story > continuity regardless

E2 is shit therefore it doesn't matter
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>>78222959
Firget everything that has happened on earth 2, its for the best
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>>78220025
Why does she hate Darkseid so much?
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>>78220980
Early JL was clearly, obviously, 100% editorial driven. Lee and Didio ghost writing, no doubt. Space opera shit like this is what Johns likes.
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>>78223348
>Lee and Didio ghost writing, no doubt.

>Johnsfags

Fuck off.

>>78223266
Not real reason.
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>>78223266
>edgy
>sidecut
>daddy issues
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>>78223266
She's like 20 and he's her dad, of course she hates him
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>>78223393
Why would Johns force a pairing he doesn't believe in if it's not someone making him write it? Come on man.
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>>78223428
He is a bitch that has never said no to anything. JL was the first book where WW and SM interacted so it was the first place to showcase that, As simple as that.
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>>78223348
>Johnsfags actually believe this, that Johns has never really written shit ever.
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>>78222693

>BM: With this chair, I can know anything! Do anything! Finally, I'm above mere mortals!
>GL: Welp, that can't be good. I better keep an eye on him.
>later
>BM: Welp, Darkseid's dead. Guess I'll go abuse this chair's ridiculous power to round up drug dealers and muggers. Jordan, Oa's on fire.
>GL: Crap! Okay, but don't do anything to abuse that power while I'm gone!
>later still
>BM: Thanks to my oppressive abuse of this godlike power Gotham is virtually crime-free, but now I'm bored! What to do... I know! I'll go torture the man who killed my parents, because I'm Batman and my parents are dead!
>5 minutes later
>BM: Well, that went pretty quickly. What now? *shrugs* Guess I'll obsess over the Joker like always, because I'm Batman and he's my arch-enemy, until the others' plots catch up.
>even later
>GL: Okay Batman, I'm ba- HEY! What are you doing, Batman? You're abusing your power to obsess about the Joker! You don't need that chair or godlike abilities to obsess about the Joker; you've got a perfectly normal chair over there to do that in! Don't you remember?
>BM: You are right, Hal Jordan! I don't need a special chair to obsess over my arch-enemy! I'm a mortal man, and I'm going to stand up!
>GL: You stood up!
>BM: Thank you, Hal Jordan! You sure are a good friend to me. We've sure come a long way from that time we first met.
>GL: We sure have! Now, let's go see if the others are ready to save the world and end this story.
>BM: And when we're done, I can get back to beating up drug dealers and muggers and obsessing about the Joker!

Post YFW this is what actually happens.
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As much as I like Fabok, Manapul is just on another level.
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>>78223588
He's a huge Lois and Clark/Lois fag though. It's as apparent as his beliefs about Lex. You had to know he wasn't the one who came up with SM/WW. I don't mean that he didn't actually write the scripts, but it certainly was mandated.
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>>78223648
Hal isn't that diplomatic, he's just going to try and yank him off the chair physically and then Bruce will make out with him in gratitude because his head is clear afterwards
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>>78223720
Shh, some just want to hate based Johns even after the gift he has given us today.
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>>78223835
>even after the gift he has given us today.

You make make Mr miracle and barda lovers? wow such a great gift, is almost as if he respected the characters a little!

>>78223720
He is, and he already worked with them a lot, i doubt he has interest in use lois in the JL book.

>>78223648
It's pathetic, literally batman is an autistic that only cares about gotham and selfish retarded shit. At least tomasi tried to justify it by saying the chair doesnt let him get involve. But Johns literally gave Batman god powers and managed to make him even more useless.
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>>78223917
After what Earth 2 did to them, its good for some respect
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This is a terribly written issue, it's all over the place. All you people fellating Johns for simply having Mister Miracle and Big Barda be characterized like they were and always have been for 40 years are a big part of the problem. I can't deny that it's beautiful though, I wish the words lived up to the art.
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>>78223965
>This is a terribly written issue, it's all over the place.
What's wrong with it? The only part that seemed off to me was the sudden cut to Diana thinking about the Crime Syndicate
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>>78223965
Pacing on the whole arc has been off. Most of us have just accepted it as a flaw and moved on.
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>>78223943
It's fine. Decent characterization is not a gift, is a must.

>>78223965
>All you people fellating Johns for simply having Mister Miracle and Big Barda be characterized like they were and always have been for 40 years are a big part of the problem.

That's the point for some reason people is acting like not ruining a character is something to be greatful. I don't agree it was terribly written, Some numbers, especially when this arc started were horrible, this is just meh. The pace is horrible, once again nothing really happens aside from "hey guys, remember the CSA? well someone can go and try to find them".
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>>78219868
>>78219902
Thanks Johns, it has been so long
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>>78219974
>Friends
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It's just bouncing around from plot point to plot point. Characters go from brawling one panel to standing around in the street the next. Diana's narration continues to be rote and heavy handed. The character moments aren't weaved into the plot at all, they are just "we are going to stop the story and talk about our motivations now." And that's leaving out the fact that Johns is somehow making the Fourth World a boring slugfest and turning the cosmic wonder of Kirby into Rainbow Rings 2.0.
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>>78224001
>What's wrong with it?

Not him but

>>78219983
>>78219996
>>78220004
>>78220025


4 pages with baraly any text, and yet the same could had been said with even less text.
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>>78224123
>>78224001
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>>78223965
To be fair it's been like 10 years since we've seen those two written the way they were usually
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>>78219902
I love the awkward reaction of Steve and Wondie.
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>>78219983
For God's sake, Bruce.
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>>78224157
The notion that we are supposed to be applauding the fact that characters are demonstrating traits that are integral to their personalities and history is acutely emblematic of what's wrong with DC at the moment.
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>>78224157
And Johns has not done that with all the other new gods. So why are you pretending this is something to celebrate.
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>>78224268
>The notion that we are supposed to be applauding the fact that characters are demonstrating traits that are integral to their personalities and history is acutely emblematic of what's wrong with DC at the moment
But they are, we are just talking about a Bunch of C-List that we don't have a long ass time that we love
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>>78224317
No one is literally saying the good characterization absolves the errors, but why ignore it? Discussion doesn't mean you have to only focus on the bad parts
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>>78224362
"thank you based johns for doing the absolute basic thing with 2 characters"
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>>78224348
"thank you for not fucking up this characters" and at the same time he has batman searching for the joker while the world ends. Nice.
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>>78224379
Yes it's good that he wrote them in-character. Why do you think it's wrong that people acknowledge that?
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>>78224393
It's almost as if he's under the influence of something that's making him act OOC.
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>>78224393
>The chair is making the obsessive part of Bruce even more obsessive
>Hal is clearly going to Gotham to talk shit to Bruce so he can go back to his senses
Its not hard man
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>>78224348
>>78224415
Because it is Barda and Mister Miracle 101. It's a part of both of their origin stories. DC is so far away from what it should be that having two characters act like they ought to is something that should be celebrated and not expected.
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>>78224557
To clarify, Barda and Miracle doing baseline Barda and Miracle things is something that should be expected not celebrated.
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>>78224588
Ok
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>>78224588
Now you know in what gutter current comics lie.
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>>78224557
>DC is so far away from what it should be
are you really generalising a whole line based on this ? really ?
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>>78219916
was not expecting any sort of tenderness from Kalibak woah
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>>78224557
>>78224588
I really don't get where you're coming from. You're just stating the obvious here as if that's supposed to make people not get excited over what they've read.
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>>78224636
>>78224670
Yes I am. It's perfectly indicative of why DC is terrible these days. They stripped away everything meaningful and continue to expect us to lap it back up piecemeal without caring about the quality of the content.
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>>78224722
Kalibak may be an Idiot but boy he does love his father
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>>78219974
Thanks Johns
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>>78224746
>DC is terrible these days
>Action comics, grayson and Omega man
>Terrible
Those are just some examples, we can also talk about Midnighther if you want
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>>78224736
It shouldn't be a big deal that Barda and Mister Miracle are in love. They've been in love since they were created 40 years ago. The only reason it's a big deal is because DC jettisoned their entire history for a quick buck.
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>>78224784
5 comics out of an entire line do not make DC not terrible, especially when they are continually mishandling the Big Seven.
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>>78224791
Characterization isn't fully why it's getting the reaction though. It's people reacting to an intentional "fuck yeah" moment. Like for all the flaws that the issue has that's literally the point of the scene to stir up those emotions in the reader. Like it or don't but it does its job for most. These kinds of moments are Johns's bread and butter.
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>>78224791
okay then, go back at reading the greatness of pre reboot like Titans and Cry for justice then, no one is asking for you to stay here
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>>78224816
>Batman is actually good now because Snyder proves that he can write other characters that are not Bruce
>Superman is finally good thanks to the art that helped a lot
>We had the best catwoman run in fucking years
>GL is finally being good for the most part
>WW is shit, but the creative team change is imminenent
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>>78224824
But the only reason it's a "fuck yeah" moment is because of editorial meddling. Johns is playing with the suspense of whether or not these characters are the same after they were needlessly wiped away. Barda and Scot making out will always make me happy, but here it's directly played as if the fact that they are acting like they should is an enormous deal.
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>>78224960
On honeymoon, even.
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>>78219974
>>78219977
REEE
E
E
E

I don't care about WW, but why must Superman be forever keked

Lois is a bitch
Lana is lusting after that BBC
Who else is there
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>>78225041
>not realizing that Steve and Diana is the purest love
You fucking disgust me
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>>78224893
Superman is still shit regardless of art and Green Lantern is just okay really. And I mean obviously the Finches won't be on Wonder Woman forever but that still doesn't stop it from being shit nor does it guarantee a better creative team when they leave.
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>>78224825
No matter which way you slice it, the quality of the books before the reboot are no worse than after (I would argue they are way better) and they had decades of history and character development to draw upon.
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>>78225070
The whole arc about the Mystical WWE has been fun like hell though, Him being buddies with the fighters and going after who stole his power has been great
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>>78225041
Lois is that kind of bitch that he likes though. You have to know this.
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>>78224960
While I think that them being shit on before is part of the reason people react strongly to it, Johns has done this sort of thing in stories with characters who were already introduced in them. Like at worst if it was just another character you'd downgrade it to "hell yeah" rather than a "fuck yeah"
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>>78224893
Even if you think these things are good, which I would argue that Batman and Superman are not, they are still just basic superhero stories that have been told already in a million different ways with no effort at building the foundations of a cohesive universe.
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>>78223835
I mean, I still hate him for Rebirth and the death of the Flash family because it was still his fucking pitch that let DC pull the trigger. You can totally hate Johns for shit that is his fault.
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>>78225087
and sometimes they shitted on that, A lot of people liked Ryan just to see him get killed on a fucking villains for the sake of Shock value
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>>78225303
>Ryan
Who?
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>>78219902
IT'S LIKE POETRY
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>>78225330
Ryan Cho, the Atom
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>>78225041
Lois has done nothing wrong
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>>78225149
Ehhhh, Barda gets reintroduced and then a page later is making out with Scot. There's no buildup or context whatsoever if you aren't familiar with the characters.
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>>78225351
Figured it was him moment I typed out.
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>>78219848
>>78219860
>>78219868
>>78219902
THANK YOU BASED JOHNS
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>>78225351
I'm not denying that they were still making some shitty decisions, after all it's still DiDio, but the good far outweighed the bad. It's a good thing they wiped everything clean so they could bring Ryan Choi back, right?
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>>78220258
This is nothing new, sperglord. Morrison was gonna do something like this post Final Crisis, and Johns has made no secret he was planning on doing this. Why are you losing your shit over it?
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>>78225415
Technically they did resurrect him
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>>78225445
Oh yeah I forgot the consolation prize/fuck you that was Convergence. How about any Atom anywhere in any ongoing?
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>>78225503
He's also alive in the New 52, he just doesn't show up places
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>>78224736

You are literally suckins Johns cock for making ketshup taste like ketshup and not like mustard.

And at the same time ignoring how horrible other characters are acting.
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>>78219761
B A S E D M A N A P U L

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>>78225890
>And at the same time ignoring how horrible other characters are acting.
Like who?
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>>78225890
and it feels good

>>78225926
mostly just Batman and maybe more generally the Anti-Monitor but I think we've all just accepted that
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>>78225926
Batman, Diana, and Barry.
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>>78225937
The anti-monitor is just a different character, he is nothing like the anti-monitor, Darkseid was pretty shitty and the black racer turned into a slave is terrible.
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>>78224791
eh, they were fucking up their history even pre-reboot, like how one of Mr. Miracle runs was about their breakup, or Barda's stupid temporary death during the Final Crisis period (to be fair it applies to all New Gods, not just those two); on the other hand Barda comitting genocide was a whole new level of fuckery

Why won't they just give us a slice of life book about those two going on own adventures is beyond me since that's more or less what most of their fans always wanted.
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>>78225944
>Diana
Have you read Wonder Woman, this is the best she has been written right now, i still miss Azz though
>Batman
There is clearly something messing with his head
>Barry
Barry only became death on this comic, nothing else really
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>>78225122
It's just okay but I'm ready for the whole shit to end already so we can get Superman powered up again.
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>>78225415
There's almost no chance they will ever bring him back into the main continuity.
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>>78226206
There's no active Atom in the main contnuity at the moment, though, and we've seen Palmer in Franknstein where he says superheroing isn't for him. Choi has a decent chance of coming back, just not right now, wait two or three more years.
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>>78219996
Where did Flash go?
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>>78226240
or, we could wait until April, we are possibly going to see some new books rolling
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>>78226270
Outrunning Black Racer.
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>>78226270
He was Running from Death, no one wants to be the host of death anon
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>The hype for Justice League is so dead that Squadrom Supreme gets more posts than this.

Truly sad.
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>>78226278
We probably won't see a lot of new books until June/July, when some of the DCYou books like Omega Men are cancelled.
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>>78226240
To be honest, if you're gonna wait that long you didn't even need the reboot really. They could have brought him back to life at anytime they wanted to.
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>>78226355
One had a character that some people love get killed while the other did not, guess what will get more Replies ?
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>>78226355
Yeah but Justice League will probably outlive Squadron Supreme anyway.
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>>78226355
How many of the replies there are generic ANAD shitposting?
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>>78219848
Holy shit what an intro. Fucking bravo Johns.
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>>78226412

Nah, last issue also had fairly few posts, the thread lasted like 2 days.
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>>78226489
Half of the posts here are fanboys pretending this isnt a shitty comic.
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>>78222995
>E2 is shit therefore it doesn't matter
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>>78219916
god fuckin DAMN I want to fuck this art. Manapul tha gawd I swear holy shit
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>>78226554
Thank you Dan
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>>78226611
Yes thank you Dan for ruining Earth 2.
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>>78226412
But no one cares about Namor though, which is why he is kill in the first place.
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>>78226643
Didio and Johns were the people Robinson thanked when he got off the title, he and Johns were planning a crossover/event, and Didio backs Johns. So it most likely wasn't his fault.
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>>78226668
And here I thought it's because movie rights.
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>>78226668
i do
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>>78219848
Not the first time Manapul's art has made me cum
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>>78226546
>Half of the posts here are fanboys pretending this isnt a shitty comic
and 25 of the other is one Buttblasted anon that is complaining because a character is being well written
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>>78226703
>And here I thought it's because movie rights.

Dc isn't Marvel.
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>>78226779
>johnsfags

There's several people saying you are faggots for pretending there's something impresive about not fucking up a character.
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>>78226703
Namor isn't a Fox licensed character so I doubt Marvel would care.
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>>78226713
Well I mean most people don't care. It's not like he can hold down an ongoing or anything.
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>>78225041
>Who else is there

Maxima is lusting for Supergirl in New 52
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>>78226909
The only real problem is the pacing and i though knew that
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>>78219773
Tazmanian Devil as Flash.
Not Speedy or Road Runner.

You had one job, dammit!
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>>78226909
if the character was constantly fucked up for years it sort of is.
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>>78227609
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>>78227609
>Road Runner
>Hero
Speedy is a missed chance though, but Taz does work.
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>>78219848
>>78219860
>>78219868
>>78219885
>>78219902

>DC finally lets a couple stay together post-reboot
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>>78228303
Buddy and Maxine stayed together too. That's two couples! Two!
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I love Manapul but he has severe case of same face with women.
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>>78228317
>meanwhile Arthur still didn't marry Mera
I'll delude myself DC is preparing wedding issue.
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>>78228317
Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad stayed married.
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>>78228320
yeah it's a nice face though
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>>78219956

>Batman isn't answering my calls

Isn't he like halfway across the universe? I imagine that it would take a while for messages to get across.
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>>78219963
>>78219974

Steve confirmed for being better in the sack than Supes
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>>78220973
I've been saying it since the start, this is John's version of the 5th World.
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>>78220130

In what way is she a Mary Sue? She's uber powerful because she's half-amazon & half-darkseid.

She's a bit of "i'm evil because I want to be REEEEEEEEEEE.", but I like her.
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>>78219996
Anti-Monitor's new look there is nice.
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>>78220130
>>78228880

Do you remember when she wiped out the league?
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>>78219974
>Superman is now a Cuck

lel, bitch ass pussy.
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I love Manapul's art but the colors are kinda off in a lot of pages
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>>78229514
Booch is his usual colorist and is way better at it
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>>78219983
>I've been lusting for him my whole life
Am I the only one who read it like that?
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>>78219868

Remember kids, there's two mega rods, and Scot has one of them.
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>>78223648
>>GL: Okay Batman, I'm ba- HEY! What are you doing, Batman? You're abusing your power to obsess about the Joker! You don't need that chair or godlike abilities to obsess about the Joker; you've got a perfectly normal chair over there to do that in! Don't you remember?
>>BM: You are right, Hal Jordan! I don't need a special chair to obsess over my arch-enemy! I'm a mortal man, and I'm going to stand up!
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>>78219868
Aw, this is cute.
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>>78219977
I would shit my pants.
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>>78219977

>heard you whispering shit on a series of frequencies thinking I wouldn't find out
>>
This and Green Lantern are my favorite books from this event so far.
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>>78219773
>he had so many acme accidents that one by one his body parts had to be replaced with robot ones to the point he is more machine than mammal
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>>78231387
The GL one shot was so fucking good
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>>78231561
They need to put King on the main GL ongoing
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>>78231387

I really liked Shazam just for all the deities personalities
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I need to make peace with Johns not using Morrison's The Speed Force/Power of Love is the Life Equation stuff don't i
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>>78232682

The anti-life is now just Cosmic energy, Johns has never been good with meta stuff desu.
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>>78232682
Johns doesn't seem to actually want to use Flash in this arc at all.
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>>78232891

I forgot Johns h8s Barry in JL
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>>78232682
>>78232725

Johns takes concepts from Morrison's cosmology and uses them in a much, much more literal sense. Sometimes this works because his character work is so strong, sometimes it doesn't.
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>>78232923
It's pretty obvious with Batman too. Both of them are only here because they have to be.
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>>78232682
Yes because much like everything in final crisis it was stupid.
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>>78232682
To be fair, its better this way, he could ruin it
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>>78233769
And i guess you believe Johns is doing a better job with the new gods right?
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>>78233928
Outside of darkseid id say he is better than morrison. . Better than Kirby no.
>>
bumpo
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>>78229111
someone every arc wipes out the league.
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>>78219801
What have they done to Mr. Miracle?!?!
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>>78235079
His hair is only out due to battle damage. Unless you mean that you don't like something else in the design.
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>>78235079
nothing? he's just got hair sticking out of his mask because it's ripped
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>>78235114
I actually thought it was Iron Man until I noticed his hair...sorry, I don't read very many contemporary capes at all...the last comic I read with Mr. Miracle in it was either the Ian Gibson-illustrated mini-series or the Steve Rude-drawn one off...I suppose it's churlish of me to expect that MM's original design wouldn't have been updated over the years...having said that Barda looks SHIT-HOT; I'd even go so far as to say it's an improvement on her original costume. Plus Kirby (despite everything else!) couldn't draw a pretty woman to save his life. Same with Ditko, and I love them both.
>>78235115
See above. Quite liking this Manapul guy, he renders like Fraser Irving used to, like when he started getting good working on 2000AD.
Yeah, I thought his redesign included a chopped-top mask like...erm...like the original Captain Britain costume.
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>>78235458
manapul is bretty good
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>>78227670

He just cant keep up
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>>78221055
John's really wants to writer him but WB said he could only write two books.

JL and BE1.

This guys used to write 4 monthly titles.
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>>78240204
Johns is too busy now helping out the movies and shows to be fun as fuck.

[spoilers]Thanks for J'onn on Supergirl, Geoff![/spoiler]
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>>78233007
>Johns hates Batman
Then why does he get the characterization so well?
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>>78242007
It's not that he hates Batman, he just clearly didn't want to use him in this arc so he found a way to basically sideline him for a while.
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>>78219773
cyborg wile e. looks based as fuck
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>>78226554
Fuck off Dan, Flash is still garbage because of you.
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>>78229111
Cheetah wiped out the league, dude.
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>>78220365
>Just say it, Vic. Say it! Now!
>...SHABORG!
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>>78242007
His characterization is literally what a casual thinks of batman, no wonder johnsfags like it.
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>>78242007
Multiple monitor faps are the best
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>>78219801
>>78219795
>comparing your buds to the odyssey
it was about a clever cunt that said "nah, il just fuck around for 30 years defying a god at every turn"
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>>78219902
>that lower left panel
SUPES AND WONDER WOMAN IS OVER
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>>78233928
Johns does a horrible job at it as a whole but he gets some of the personalities pretty well (Barda and Kalibak especially). Morrison writes an excellent Darkseid but often falls flat at the individual NGs and it really shows he doesn't really care about the majority to begin with. Also, while I love Morrison but don't really care about Johns unless he's writing the Rogues, Final Crisis sucked. Badly.
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>>78245627
The main Final Crisis story was kind of shitty but Superman Beyond was 10/10
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>>78233007
Good, then we can show some characters that don't get as much spotlight.
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>>78245444
Didn't you see this >>78219974 ?
It's ogre now
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>>78242007
To be fair, it has been stated that he is way over his head, the chair is doing something with him
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>>78247387
It was said by Tomasi. Johns literally views batman as a useless selfish jerk and godpowered him and turn him into a useless selfish jerk. As everyone said before this started, batman and metton had nothing in common and so far its fair to say batman characterization has never been worse on a league book.
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>>78247422
>batman and metton had nothing in common
But Barry and the Black Racer have so much in common, right?
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>>78247448
They dont either, but johns doesnt csre about that, this whole events was born from the idea of selling action figures. Just like blackest night, flashpoint and forever evil, is all about alternative costumes
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>>78247422
>Batman and Metron have nothing with common
Two smart asses that don't give a shit about the others 90% of the time ?
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>>78247646
>Bats don't give a shit about others
Seriously? He dedicated the whole his life to serve the other people. Anyone sees and knows that.
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>>78236695
That's a striking image, definitely.
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