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Lemire's All-New Hawkeye Storytime

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since there was some discussion, I figured I'd just let everyone make up their own minds.
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>>78110873
I'm liking this so far. Clint isn't useless, Kate isn't a cunt, the flashbacks are alright and Hydra watched Akira too many times
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>>78110919
I haven't read past this issue of this series, and I'll be storytiming everything released so far tonight, so I'm looking forward to see how things progress.
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Does Lemire write any stories that aren't about traumatic, wandering childhoods?
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I have really only read Sweet Tooth, Essex County, Descender and this though
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>>78111229
Old Dogs is about a traumatic wandering adult life.
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Eh, I'm not really feeling it so far, I'm not quite sure why though, can't really put my finger on it
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>>78111445
it's maybe too decompressed and self-indulgent? It's not great, but it's pretty so far.
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>>78111445
And the past narrative is too disconnected from the present so far, even visually. The first issue played with layering it in the background and I expected a bit more experimentation.
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Or maybe I like that issue 3 and 4 are mirrored structurally, as far as 1/5 past/present split. But issue two just kind of did full pages of each, so maybe i'm giving 3 and 4 too much credit.
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>>78111839
Did not realize that this actually set up the old man hawkeye shit.

I'll be back with All-New Hawkeye Vol 2 in just a moment folks.
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>>78110959
>Maria Hill not a total raging cunt
Wow, it's been a while.
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>>78111913
Cool
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>>78111839
>Old Man Barton
So he's blind and is going to kill the shit out of people?
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>>78111930
we gon' find out
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>>78111529
This might be part of it, as I kinda skimmed through some of those "Then" pages on my first read through, finding them boring and overly long for what they were trying to show, as well as the art not meshing too greatly with the "Now" art
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And a third "style." This book seems unaffected by/improved by ANAD. It's an ACTUAL part 2 as opposed to merely just "new numbering."
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>>78112305
How old is the Mandarin at this point? 90 something?
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>>78112663
I hate you America.
>>78112680
I hate you so much.
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>>78112694
Yeah she literally showed up just to say "men's problems are icky. empathy is overrated. let's dance! feminine prerogative!"
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>>78112739
But Katie said they should dance
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>>78112759
Yes. Katie said that. The rest of my bullshit about "OMG #SHAMING!" being a oneway street of empathy stands.
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>>78111136
>Pizzadog didn't die in Fraction's run

Yaaaay
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Jesus this is depressing.

Does everyone in the Marvel Universe just want Clint to kill himself?
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>First arc in trade as Hawkeye Vol. 5: All-New Hawkeye

Goddammit

what're ya gonna do
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>>78113044
Yeah it's kind of a downer
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>>78111973
Gotta say, I've been liking this a whole lot more than Fraction Hawkeye.
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>>78112123
>Clint
>shitting on Pym
>CLINT

This almost made me drop it right then and there.
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>>78113097
>Marvel constantly makes new #1s
>Doesn't relabel trades by whoever's writing them
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>>78112694
Is that how you guys interpreted it? It sounded to me like America was trying to help her friend get past something that's eating her inside.
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Kinda hate the Clint shitting on, not too invested in the psychic kids stuff but I'd still read it when it's in a trade.
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Boy I sure love how this comic just takes a humongous shit on Clint. It sure is fun to read and doesn't make me want to find the writer and break his fucking fingers.
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>>78110245
Why does that "Maria Hill" look so strange?
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>>78114189
>Boy I sure love how this comic just takes a humongous shit on Clint

>The point of this comic
>Your head
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>>78111136
YAY PIZZA
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>>78114064
that's how I would have interpreted it if I hadn't had years of the "progressives" conducting every conversation and analysis in bad faith.
>Girlfriend of main character dies, this motivates him more than anything else, changes his life
>"Why do men hate women?"

Had the genders been reversed there'd be some winging bullshit about how "the patriarchy regularly dismisses women's feelings."
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>>78114189
>older hero makes morally grey decision
>younger idealistic hero is opposed to it
>old version of hero is old and out of practice

What a huge shit.
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>>78112739
I mean, she is right though. Kate is obviously still worried about him but he can't be relying on her.

Also, thanks for the story time.
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>>78114654
>"the patriarchy regularly dismisses women's feelings."
And then the sane side of tumblr would have called them on that bullshit, informed the masses on what's actually going on, and everyone would move on.

Just like what happens every time tumblr overreacts to something.
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>>78115042
fair enough
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>>78114963
The fact that Clint relies on Kate pisses me off.
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>>78116088
He's an out of shape geriatric whereas she stayed in the game. She's going to be better informed and in better shape. It's literally right there in the comic.
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>>78114963
He kind of clearly needs someone to help him though. Wouldn't be surprised if he ate a bullet after this.
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>>78114963
I get it. I understand that "Hey bro, you gotta move on," is a friend conversation.

My issue is that it's A) That character (America) saying it, and B) This book hates Hawkeye. They want you to know that men are icky. When they succeed, they're assholes and when they fail they're creeps. When they're insecure and struggling, they're icky. Your clingy boyfriend? Icky. The guy that turned into Nuke on Jessica Jones? Icky.

If only we listened to the headstrong young women of the world, we wouldn't have any problems at all.

Is it irrational and personal and not the "right" way to read the scene? Probably.

>>78116088
I'm reading through some West Coast Avengers stuff right now and, yeah, I know that shit is 30 years old, but Hawkeye was the team leader.

I understand it's a lot easier to play him as the "shlubby irresponsible single guy" for comedy/empathy, but c'mon.

>>78116152
I'm not so much bothered that "an old man" isn't at the top of his game as I am that this is just another device (old age) to emasculate and neuter the heterosexual white male who is "beneath your consideration." He's old and initialized and needy.
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>>78116267
Infantilized

It's just a dog whistle to everyone who's not a white guy. It's meant to communicate "Yeah, we think they're annoying too. Can't they just die off already?"
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when are kate and clint gonna fuck already?
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Thanks for posting OP.

I needed to read those last grow but fuck man! this run has made me hate Kate even more than before.

What with all this Clint hate?
Like many anons have said all this Clint bashing is very depressing.

What the fuck man
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>>78116605
Soon.
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Reading bump.
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>>78112558
>Squirrel Girl's face
I honestly prefer Henderson over that.
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>Gillen's YA showing up
Neat.
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Christ, you people were stung by women as children, weren't you?
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>>78112694
Clint is a sad man-child, though.
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