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>"Cool" masked character introduced into show or

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>"Cool" masked character introduced into show or comic
>does something meant to be badass or heroic
>character is revealed to be a woman
>"Hah you didn't expect a girl could be so badass did you? You expected it would be a guy, but we totally turned the tables and left you gawking like the neanderthal you are"

God this is so lame, why does it still happen.
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>>78030513
Because women are insecure and need to make their presence known even if no one cares.
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>>78030513
I think it's sexy
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>>78030513
Examples, I love badass reverse traps.
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>>78030513
>It's revealed to be the female member of the team that everyone dismissed at the beginning of the episode
>In the subsequent episode, she is useless again and we'll never see that cool costume
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>>78030820
I don't like to use the word but it's a fairly common "trope", so it probably has a specific name you can look up.
Baiting the audience into rooting for a mystery character, then revealing it to be either a new or existing female character in some weird armchair-psychology attempt at making people believe said character is cool.

Kinda like Zelda from... Zelda, once people found out she was also Sheik the character which people agreed was pretty awesome just vanished from the collective conciousness of players.
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>>78030625
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>>78031057
Oh shit, just googled her and I'm loving her design. I never played any LoZ but maybe I should now.
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>>78030513
Does it?
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>>78030625
Look at her thigh gap. Her vagina must be huge.
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>>78030513
IT'LL STOP WHEN MISOGYNY IS *DEAD*
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>>78031057
Doesn't feel fair to lump Zelda/Sheik in with that trope. It was more 'Sheik is Zelda?!' than 'Sheik is a gril?!'
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>The character stops concealing their identity.
>They become shit in every possible way.
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>>78030513
I cringed reading that.
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I think Lord Dominator is the only time they did not become shit and worthless immediately after being unmasked.
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>>78030513
Wakfu did that without the last part, although I will say that the character was cooler when she was masked. She gets rather dull throughout the rest of the arc.
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>>78030513
>Lord Dominator
>Starts out as an intimidating villain which actually makes the MCs actually take something seriously for once
>Eventually her identity is revealed
>Suddenly the MCs treat her as nothing more than a love interest and she becomes a generic mary-sue perfect GRRRL POWER with no flaws or weaknesses at all
This trope is fucking cancer to any show it appears on.
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ye olde baite anne switche
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>>78031209
I take it you're not a fan of Smash Bros. either? Because she's been a mainstay in that series since the second game.
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>>78031579
>the only time they did not become shit and worthless immediately after being unmasked
In what way? At all? The moment she was unmasked she stopped being "actual intimidating threat" to "generic evil woman who is perfect and unstoppable and uses her looks to get what she wants"
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>>78031651
>>78030513
>masked character
>cool and competent
>gets unmasked
>becomes a lame jobber
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>>78031665
Doesn't matter, the without armor design is sexy and cute.
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>>78031665
>>78031718
>>78031396
WHY DO WRITERS KEEP FUCKING UP!?
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>>78031749
It's literally just a color swap of every cartoon teenage redheaded white girl in existence.

Yes specifically the redheads. Fuck off Wendy and Frankie and etc.
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>>78030513
>Cool" masked character introduced into show or comic
>does something meant to be badass or heroic
>character is revealed to be your father
>"I am Your Father"
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>>78030513
Give examples please.
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>great villain
>gets unmasked
>ruined forever
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>>78031749
She may be cute, but that doesn't mean shit when she's literally the most boring character on the show. All she fucking does is show up, win, and leave. She can fucking vaporize an entire ship by looking at it with zero effort, her armor is invincible, and she just uses her looks to get whatever she wants. It's not interesting to watch a Mary Sue be perfect and get everything she wants and have Hater fawn over her and have her not give a shit; it's blatantly obvious what's gonna happen. She's gonna reveal she doesn't like him, he's gonna get mad, and she's going to be defeated through some stupid deus ex machina bullshit and she will disappear without having brought a single thing of interest to the entire show. Literally every other character is better and more interesting than her. They made a fucking sentient black cube that doesn't speak more interesting than her. SHE IS MORE BORING THAN A SHAPE THAT DOESN'T TALK. That's how bad she is.

If anything, the fact that she's cute only makes it worse that she's so horrible. It's an immense waste of potential.
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>FFS shakespear, your lame tropes are so old
>competent women make me uncomfortable
>the sjws are oppressing me

etc
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>>78031109
Funny thing is, only the last panel is faked XD
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>>78031963
There's a difference between a competent female character and a Mary Sue who does everything perfectly and has no flaws for the sole reason that they are a woman.
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>>78031963
You don't understand this thread and I think you should fuck off before you hurt yourself with your garbage nonsense.
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>>78031795
Do you remember how fucking boss it was when he walked through Tarrlocks bloodbending?

Remember all the sweet shit he could have been instead of a waterbender with daddy issues?

Remember when Korra showed promise?
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>>78031749
>Doesn't matter
>sexy and cute

It's why people call Ashoka a good character so it does matter.
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>>78031806
The most recent one I remember is Tomorrowland which is a Disney movie even if it's live action.
And it did it right at the start too, haxxor ninja wall-scaler breaking into a super secure compound decides to take off his mask (why, why! you're breaking and entering!) to reveal it's a chick.
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>>78031109
Why not use what she really says for the last panel? Why ruin the entire image like that?
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>>78031749
You mean a disjointed mish mash that's out of harmony with the art style.
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>>78031963
Honestly, it's demeaning to women to treat them being badass as something so shocking.
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>>78033954
No it's good because women are doing it. Stupid.
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>>78031963
>Implying people haven't honestly said that Shakespeare's work is too old and outdated
>Implying there aren't people trying to get his work purged from general education as we speak
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>>78034169
>>Implying there aren't people trying to get his work purged from general education as we speak
I'd be cool with Romeo and Juliet being removed. Every one has seen twenty variants on it by the time they read it in school and it's not all that great.
At least the only Hamlet kids see is the Lion King
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>>78034169
>implying Shakespeare even really wrote all those plays
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>>78034043
Good counter argument.
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I kinda like it.
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>>78034723
Beaumont stayed pretty capable though, the only thing she couldn't handle was Joker's plot armor
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>>78031989
I can't even tell if posts like this are ironical anymore.
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>>78031795
>>78031853
Goddammit this still hurts.
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>>78031665
>>78031930
That's more the fault of the writers than anything else. Maybe if they put some effort into their attempts at "serious" characters we'd get somewhere.
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