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Who are some /co/ creators that are legitimately crazy or are scumbags? Who are some /co/ creators that are have done criminal things? Pic unrelated.
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/co/ is.
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Obligatory John Byrne
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne
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>>78024785
Stan Lee and Bob Kane are a given.
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Ken Penders
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>>78024785
This episode was recorded shortly after his wife passed away.
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>>78024953
That's some heavy shit, man. Bob Ross seemed like a real cool guy despite all he went through (being drafted to the military and all that).
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did you know that Bob Ross was a senior master sergeant in the air force before he started painting?

I have a hard time imagining him yelling at people.
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>>78025032
Isn't the entire series of him painting on Netflix now? Shit, I don't feel like getting Netflix but...Bob Ross, man.

Fucking happy trees.
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>>78025071
Pretty sure all of his episodes are on Youtube as well.
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>>78024785
Jim Steranko isn't crazy, but he's an incredible person and if you don't know about him, you should. Go read his twitter and such. He once punched Bob Kane, because why wouldn't you.

Chuck Austen can't get work in comics any more, though he's managed to make a little niche for himself in tv. Burned all his bridges.

Rob Liefeld is an egotistical embezzler who likes to drive while trying to draw. Seriously. There's video of it. He only still gets work for the same reason you still get all those spam messages you never see: a very small number of the very large number of people who read his stuff in the 90s still think they want to read his stuff. Because this is a few tens of thousands of sales at the higher end, he's worth commissioning for some publishers. Occasionally. Usually he tries to take on too much work and throws a tantrum and quits.

Todd McFarlane is a similarly egotistical prick who spent decades fighting over Angela, a bit-player in Spawn who, according to contract, was owned by *her* creator, not the series creator; this despite setting up Image to champion creator-owned properties. His assholery is so great we now have to suffer Angela in GotG, just because it sticks it to McFarlane.

Jack Kirby had a real temper on him. He almost argued himself out of work many times; he also gave himself a punishing schedule that hurt his friendships and probably his career.

Steve Ditko is a full-blown Objectivist.

>>78024866
Kane was. Lee has always credited people if they asked for it. When he started out as an editor at Atlas/Timely, he was the one who was pushing for credits to be routinely given to writers and artists, something that didn't happen at any company at that time. He also took Marvel out of the (voluntary) CCA scheme because it was restrictive garbage run by people who refused to accept comic books could be used to warn kids about the dangers of the world they live in.

>>78024792
>implying /co/ has ever created anything
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>>78025062
It's not all shouting. Master sergeant implies at least a decade of service, and you just don't last that long or achieve a rank if you can't get along with people. It's bad for morale to only ever shout.

I'd picture him as being a pre-injury Lt. Dan.
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>>78025194
There's an entire thread dedicated to people posting their shitty webcomics.
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>implying /co/ has ever created anything
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>>78024785
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>>78025255

why you no like marjorie liu
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>>78025286
i like her fine
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>legitimately crazy
Like... someone who was diagnosed with schizophrenia and started their own religion?

There's always Dave Sim, author of one of the most important and influential comics of all time.

Here's a short essay that he wrote.
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>>78025194
>Lee has always credited people if they asked for it
>if they asked for it

So when Lee conveniently forgetting to mention Kirby or Ditko time and time again is ok because he would do so if he's reminded?

>He also took Marvel out of the (voluntary) CCA scheme

For 3 issues.
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>>78024785

Pat Lee.
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>>78025246
at least they're fucking trying and not just being a lazy basement dwelling ugly cunt like yourself
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>>78025300

how is she relevant to the thread?
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>>78025222
He said after he left he wanted to have a job where he'd never have to yell at anyone again.
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>>78025322
but I post my webcomics in that thread too
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>>78025311
>So when Lee conveniently forgetting to mention Kirby or Ditko time and time again is ok because he would do so if he's reminded?
It's more that Lee gets credited as the sole creator by other people a lot, because he's a lot more charismatic, and he doesn't mind people making that mistake.
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>>78025322
Wow, rude.

Who hurt you?
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>>78025329
can you read
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>>78025322
So which shitty webcomic is yours?
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>>78025347
>he doesn't mind people making that mistake

And he doesn't mind making the mistake himself, i doubt he even considers it a mistake.
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>>78025370
>Who hurt you?
stale meme
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>>78025371
>crazy
Nope.
>scumbag
Nope.
>criminal things
Nope.
The worst thing she's done is write some mediocre books and bandwagoning on the Iceman is gay thing by lying about writing him as in the closet during her Astonishing run.
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>>78025332
Aw.

>>78025311
It destroyed the CCA as a viable scheme. From then on the publishers were dictating what they could print, not the other way around.

And yeah, it's fine. Life's too short to spend standing around giving acceptance speeches. Besides which, Spider-Man's original concept had fuckin 1776 booties because it was a straight lift from every other forgettable hero the artists were used to churning out. The editing process refined that.

If you tell someone to draw a circle and they draw it, who is the creator?

>>78025317
I always forget about Pat Lee. Total cunt.
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>>78025395
The best kinds of ad hominem are the ones where you straight up say you can't prove shit but it seems reasonable to you.

Everybody loves a man whose debating style is straight out of the Spanish Inquisition playbook.
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>>78025408
can you read tho
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>>78025465
nigger
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>>78025429
>If you tell someone to create a shape and they draw a circle, who is the creator?

FTFY.

>>78025445
Doesn't make it any less true that Lee takes too much credit.
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>>78025528
Do you have a webcomic?
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>>78025557
What?
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>>78025571
Do you have a webcomic?
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>>78024785
>Who are some /co/ creators that are legitimately crazy or are scumbags? Who are some /co/ creators that are have done criminal things?

John K. is a big one. He's what happens when you hire an artist who cannot learn to work within the "constraints" of the commercial market.

He only needed to adhere to the golden rule of not missing deadlines. What does he go and do? He boards up his office so producers have to physically break down his door to get the next episode of Ren and Stimpy. John would claim he was a perfectionist and could not release work he deemed imperfect. It's a load of bullshit. He was just a last minute ass clown.

Joe Murray and Danny Antonucci have shown us that you can make a crazy cartoon, still maintain great quality, and still meet deadlines!

Why was this so hard for you John k!? And on top of that, he attempted to get Billy West to leave Nickelodeon when executives were going to give him the boot. To this day he holds a grudge against Billy for not leaving with him.

He's an ass clown. Billy West did what was best for himself. He didn't want to go into the abyss with John and doesn't deserve the grief associated with Ren and Stimpy.
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>>78025605
Wow, rude.

Who hurt you?
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>>78025613
>Who hurt you?
stale meme
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>>78025528

>slavery was good for keeping those animals in check.

Since you're clearly a fucking idiot and it's going to be impossible to engage with you in anything but your own terms, you are aware that slavery brought "those animals" here, right? The institution is responsible for their presence and a few centuries or racial stess/division.

Lump people together all you want, doesn't change the fact that some of "those people" are engaged in every facet of real life while you're shitposting behind a comfy blanket of anonymity.
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>>78025304
Ha! That guy is anything but short
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>>78025677
SWEDEN YES
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>>78025528
You're talking shit about Rottweilers?
>b-b-but niggers like them!!!
GO FUCK YOURSELF
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>>78025721
I've seen those bastards attack smaller dogs for no reason. Not stray rottweilers, mind you. The ones with owners who are too dumb to keep those niggers of the dogkind on the leash.
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>>78025062
He hated yelling at people. He pretty much swore that once he was done with the army, he'd never yell again.
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>>78025757
>owner doesn't train dog right
>WOW FUCKING NIGGER DOGS
sure mate
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>>78025304
>Cerebus is good
I don't like this meme
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>>78025304
Dave Sim is clearly very crazy but just reading this makes me want to start on Cerebus.
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>>78025800
Who are you quoting?
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>>78025800
It had good art and it was the first comic to reach 300 issues written and drawn by the same person.
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>>78025304
I don't understand.
What's the relation between feminism and animal rights?
Does he just hate pets and sees women to be the one responsible for letting pets have reign within his own physical domain?
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What the fuck happened to my thread?
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>>78025247
Want me to create a murder scene, motherfucker?
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>>78025884
>what is manga
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>>78025907
I can't be bothered to read most of these replies. Some shit about animal rights or whatever? What a waste of potential for a decent thread.
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>>78024807
He'd fit right in with us 4chan regulars.
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>>78025935
I'm pretty sure by comic he's implying Western/American comics.
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>>78025800
>the poster writes "important" and "influential"
>you read "good"
Maybe you're bad at reading, farn.

>>78025935
I don't know what you're trying to imply here.

If something impressive happens in manga, does that mean that something impressive in western comics is no longer permitted to be considered impressive?
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>>78025958
Can't imply without typing an implication
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>>78025935
>doesn't list a specific title
>often use uncredited "assistants" who do most of the drawing
Yeah, sure.
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>>78025907
4chan happened
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>>78024785
>Who are some /co/ creators that are legitimately crazy or are scumbags? Who are some /co/ creators that are have done criminal things?

I'll throw another /co/ douchebag out there. Patrick Harpin. He was a story guy on Clarence and hated Skyler Page. So when the sexual harassment controversy started, he was one of the first people to grab a torch and pitchfork. He claimed Skyler did nothing to contribute towards the stories of Clarence, and that it had been him for the most part.

So he figured by burning Skyler Page at the stake, he'd be able to move up the ladder for Clarence and take over the show. The flaw in his plan though, was that he spread his evil plan monologue all over tumblr. And CN executives do not like loose lips, it undermines their authority. So he got the axe too!

Fuck him. We'll see how Clarence turns out in this next season.
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>>78025597
I think the worst part of John K. is his fanbase.

They treat him like he's the last of the great cartoonists and that he is constantly being put down by the system when its his own damn fault he got screwed over.
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>>78026006
>dat pic
Flawless logic 2bh
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>>78025322
>webcomic artists
>not lazy basement dwelling ugly cunts
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>>78026059
John K would be much better as an animation teacher than an animator, especially now that he breaks his own rules. He's responsible for showing Bruce Timm the ropes, imagine what else he could have done.
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>>78025194
Angela is long gone from GotG and her interactions with Gamora were good.
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>>78026059
>I think the worst part of John K. is his fanbase.

Fully agree. I loved Ren and Stimpy growing up, but it doesn't change the facts behind it being cancelled and pulled off tv. It's not even airing on "The Splat" due to John K.'s inability to work with others.

Did he introduce some original and new concepts to animation? Yes. But, it doesn't change the fact he screwed his fans over by not being able to give them more. And yet, the worship him like a fallen old god.

What's hilarious is that if you bring up the Ren and Stimpy adult party, his fans completely pretend it doesn't exist. And make up excuses as to why it failed.
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>>78026052
Clarence is overrated anyway tbqh

>>78026117
I honestly prefer basement dwelling ugly cunts actually doing something for society, even if it's just a comic, over basement dwelling ugly cunts who pass their time fapping to loli porn and arguing on 4chan.
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>>78026144
Fuck off Bendis.
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>>78026381
Clarence is not even rated m8.
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How about that webcomic guy who burned all his kickstarter reward things? He was pretty nits.
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>>78026412
Nuts*
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>>78024911
Gotta agree with this guy. He's a complete fucking nutcase with delusions of grandeur
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>>78026381
>draw a shitty webcomic
>actually doing something for society
Are this so called "artist" all this egomaniacal?
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>>78026412
He was or is depressed.
I don't think he was nuts, just got fed up with things
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>>78026498
>doing something productive is worse than doing nothing at all or shitposting on the internet
sure m8

>Are this so called "artist" all this egomaniacal?
I'm a political science student.
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>>78026523
He was definitely nuts. kc green, a depressed guy, said that Campbell's breakdown was like someone dying but with no body.
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>>78026580
>"drawing" shitty webcomics
>productive
Delusional as fuck.
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>>78026580
>I'm a political science student.
Just say yes, no one wants to read your blog, future sandwich artist.
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>>78025304

>women have empathy for their pets
>therefore they think animals are people and will eventually have dogs sit at the dinner table and lick shit from themselves

Dave Sim
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>>78026052
Whatever your opinion on Paige is, he fits here too. While the validity of his scuminess is debatable, the former question up in OP still rings true, no denying he's fuckin banana bonkers
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>>78026640
Not empathy, they equate their brainless nature onto them, then reflect those low qualities onto men and society at large. Christ, can you even read comics with this poor reading comprehension?
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>>78026604
Campbell tried to claim he was a transexual at one point and that people demanding the books they had paid for were commiting hate crimes against him.

He then reversed into "I WAS JUST TROLLING" the very next day.
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>>78026604
I don't understand what is nuts about that though.
It's sad but it isn't nuts
>>78026640
I think he's more saying that women already see pets as essentially people. Men have empathy toward pets, but women think of pets as their equals.
He is clearly insane though
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>>78026610
sounds like your employer told you to stay for two more hours serving burgers :^)

>>78026613
well, compared to most faggots like you I can actually prove that I'm at university.
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>>78025597
he kept trying to get young pretty girls under his wing so he could groom them into his next wife, the minute they realized it they were all out of there faster than they could say "you are almost forty years older than us"
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>>78026705
He did the same thing with depression too but in reverse.
He claimed that he was just trolling and wasn't actually depressed but the very next day revealed that that in itself was another epic ruse
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>>78026710
Many dogfags regardless of gender see pets as people desu.
it helps that most people are unintelligent trash
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Fuckley is up there.

He lies constantly, blamed his girlfriend for miscarrying their out of wedlock child and broke up with her and a few years later put a horrifyingly tone-shifted plot arc based on it into his comic to garner sympathy, sent a dick pic to an underage girl with her name written in lipstick on his gut, stole money repeatedly from fans, and denied using copy/paste to make his strips while releasing videos of him copy/pasting a comic together on a computer he stole fan money to buy.

He also stole copyrighted material off google to make characters.
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>>78024785

Well, let's see.

We have Grandpa Moore, who can't write a single story without a rape scene in it, and who goes off on enormous rants about kids on his lawn, when there aren't any kids on his lawn.

Then we have Frank Miller who has been covertly writing about how great fascism is for years, only for everyone to be shocked when it turned out that he harbors pro-fascist sentiments. I mean, this is the guy who wrote Superman into being a government stooge, and Batman into an insurgent terrorist who installs a superhero dictatorship. Leaving alone his sanity, this isn't someone we should have held up in such high regard in the first place.

Then we have Neal Adams, someone who thinks that the Earth is hollow, that oil is an infinite resource, and who wrote Batman to espouse those beliefs!

And then we have the whole debacle with Jack Kirby and his creative rights and a pox on both of your houses! A PLAGUE ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES.
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>>78025907
What the hell did you expect to happen?
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>>78025194

If I had disposable income, I would buy every issue of Angela, find McFarlane's home address, and mail them to him.
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>>78026848
>cultural rape
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>>78026523
>Burns books
>Suddenly claims to be transexual out of the blue
>Rants about how capitalism is evil and how he is entitled to free money, and everyone should send him their salaries for free
>Burns even more books every time someone asks for the product they had paid for and laughs about it on camera

Nuts doesn't begin to describe it.
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The woman who writes this.

Legitimately believes the only point to life is giving birth and breastfeeding, gives TMI on how great they feel, espouses the idea all medicine is evil, and men are just assistants in the wonder of being pregnant and lactating.
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>>78025247

The only thing /co/ creates are those chocolate bars you put in the toilet daily, or bi-daily.
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>>78026970
You only shit once or twice a day?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>78026956
That's like a nervous breakdown man, it's not the same as being nuts
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DON'T
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>>78026523
>>78026604
Reading his work it was obvious to me that he was deeply depressed.
His kickstarter backers, who were presumably fans of Pictures for Sad Children, should have been very aware that they were ordering a product from someone who was incredibly unstable.
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>>78025528

Fighting was the absolute last thing you want to use a rottweiler for. They were originally bred for herding livestock and are now used for search and rescue.

Also "pitbulls" are just an abominiation of a mixture of dog breeds, just like the Pug breed. They shouldn't exist on a technical level. Also the only reason "pitbulls" are so "dangerious" is because they are common. There are many many dog breeds that are way more aggressive and way more dangerious than any pitbull could be, it's just that those specific breeds are extremely rare to find in the Americas.
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>>78026967
lightweight.

Dave Wilis of shortpacked has admitted several times to be a racist , according to him he grew up on a racist household and still holds the views. He admits that they are wrong but he wont even speak to black people due to how he feels towards them.

Tatsuya from Sinfest took a trip down moralistic land and turned his sex joke comic into a comic about how sex is the root of all evils in the world and men are pigs enslaving women, showing amidst other things, his own self insert being reminded of how awful of a person he is. He now routinely makes comics about a feminist rescue group trying to destroy pornography and blaming men for all the wrongs in the world.

moon over June was created by a guy that had a lesbian sister who he hated, and he created the comic to mock lesbians. The characters in his comic are only obsessed with sex and hating men, going so far as to claim they will abort if they get pregnant with men. They keep fucking everyone they come across in their lives. The author declared himself a lesbian transexual as his jsutification why the work is empowering and not just created to mock lesbians.
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>>78026752
>he kept trying to get young pretty girls under his wing so he could groom them into his next wife, the minute they realized it they were all out of there faster than they could say "you are almost forty years older than us"


Haha, Howard Stern called him out on this. When John went on Howard's show to promote his shitty flash George Liquor cartoon, he came with a pretty girl assistant. And of course, Howard asked him non stop questions about what he and the girl had done together.
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>/co/ thread about crazy scumbags with 100+ posts
>no mention of Dobson
Impressive.
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>>78027006

I'm not a fatass that needs to shit 7 times in one day.
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>>78027219
It is really unhealthy if you are only shitting once a day
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>>78027250

prove it, because I'm the healthiest out of my family, friends and coworkers and only need to shit 1-2 times a day.
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>>78026825
I guess the one good thing that came out of fuckley is that Loss comic, which will continue to haunt his career for the rest of his life.
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>>78027201
He's like Chris-chan, more joke than serious case.
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>>78024785
>Who are some /co/ creators that are legitimately crazy or are scumbags? Who are some /co/ creators that are have done criminal things?

Time for a raid boss rant. Pic beyond related.

He conned more than a million dollars off his fans during the pique of his webcomic, Homestuck. And what does he do? He just throws the money as a game company to make his game without the proper paperwork or legal precautions put in place.

I work in a small business, and though my knowledge is limited, I've learned that no matter what kind of deal you strike, you fucking cover your ass in as many ways you can with legal documentation.

So this company just goes and spends almost all his money on making a game that isn't his. He doesn't communicate this though because he's on a super hiatus. The fans endlessly defend his artistic need to rest. A year goes by, and that's when he reveals all that free money he collected has gone to shit. His fans will get a game, but it won't ever have the full potential it was supposed to have since more than 50% of the backing was spent. So what does he do? He goes on another HIATUS!

This time, the fans wizened up, and have stopped giving him so much money. Good riddance.

His webcomic has become the "LOST" of webcomics.
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>>78027282
Maybe everyone you know has a poor diet.
If you aren't shitting very much then you probably weigh very little or aren't getting enough fiber
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>>78027250
>Implying constant diarrhea is healthy
Anon...
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>>78027347
you seem beyond known levels of butthurt
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>>78027381
No.
If you're an adult male you should be having solid shits like twice a day at least, or you should just be taking huge shits
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The BCB lady is crazy.
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I'm having shits on ur mums right now :^)
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>>78024785
there's no one really "bad", but most people involved in comics are small petty people.
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>>78027412
And you seem really defensive for some reason. What's up with that?
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>>78027201
Dobson isn't entertaining crazy, he's more pathetic crazy than anything else. Just from reading his webcomics and seeing his twitter spurgouts, it clear this is a man who's never gotten over high school.
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>>78025032

Apparently his time in the military (as a drill instructor!) is what drove him to be so chill. He said he never wanted to be that aggressive and nasty again.
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>>78027534
I'm just saying what I think after reading your post. I have no idea who the guy is, I've never read Homestuck (heck I even thought it was a tv show before reading your post) and I literally just browse /co/ for Adventure Time and Franco-Belgian comics nowadays. I can definitely understand his fanbase would be really unhappy after this kind of shit happens, but the way you rant about it just feels extremely butthurt, you know?
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>>78025823
Cerebus is (for the most part) quite good. However, his batshit insane worldviews are not a part of the actual story until the last few volumes (although they are found throughout if you count the supplemental sections at the end of the comic), so don't go into it expressly looking for crazy shit like in that essay.
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>>78027201
Dobson is just some faggot, he hasn't done anything really noteworthy other than be a faggot and draw a comic that's about him being a faggot
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>>78024785
I don't know any.
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>>78024807
>The Onion lost all credibility for me a while back when they did a “story” on the Hudson River cleanup GE was forced to do. As some of you may recall, one of my neighbors is a GE veep, and he was directly in charge of this, so from him I found out all kinds of details the press did not bother to pass along to the public. Since The Onion apparently gets its info from other papers, the story was full of inaccuracies.

>What are they, Michael Moore?

>Anyway, I stopped reading The Onion from then on. (2005) [28]

That's just funny.
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>>78027665
I'm not.
I'm saying that while the essay's content is insane, it's really well-written. I like his style is all.
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>>78027760
No. I refuse to believe this.

You get some dipshits in Kelly threads who don't get that it's satire at a glance. I get that.

But how can you read the Onion and not get it? Who can sit through an entire issue and not see the piss taking?
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>>78025247
Those tits are distracting, and not in the good way.

Proportional, man.
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>>78027647
I'm not the guy who wrote the rant actually. I haven't read Homestuck in forever and this is the first I'm hearing of a kickstarter. Your response just stuck out to me as seeming oddly mocking considering the purpose of the thread.

I imagine he is pretty butthurt, though. I would be too if someone took my money and ran.
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>>78027899
that doesnt really paint him as a bad person, just as a victim or a stupid one. Theres quite a difference there
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>>78026680
That whole thing was a goddamn mess. I guess everyone in the animation industry's friendly until there's blood in the water.
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>>78025194
Don't forget that Lee is the one who firs pushes for inkers and colorists to be credited.
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>>78028168
He also pushes inside his coworkers' wives.
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If we're talking actual crimes, then Jonathan Ross has written a few comics, and did a documentary about Steve Ditko. He also made obscene phone calls to an octogenarian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Russell_Brand_Show_prank_telephone_calls_row
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>>78028168
Sauce?
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>>78027006
Yeah and then he kept doing it.
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>>78027828
Oh I read thread when that first got posted. He deleted the post not too long after.
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>>78027160
Man what the FUCK happened to Tatsuya.

Like he's full on sex-phobic "if you like makeup its because you've been brainwashed by the patriarchy", "the ubermadchen is a six year old on a big wheel in sunglasses." crazy.
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>>78026412
What ended up happening with that? I haven't heard about anything else from it in a long time.
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>>78028446
In the end, Max Temkin had to be the one to gather up all the books and ship them out, and Campbell vanished from the internet.
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>>78027347
There were plenty of hints that Hussie either was massively incompetent or a dick; "i'm taking my art money and going to olive garden", the glow in the dark t-shirt that was "just a joke it was based off of dave god", ect.

Dude is the icon of the hipster "i'm just kidding i don't have to keep my word" archtype-even when I LIKED homestuck I knew not to trust that man with my money unless someone else is making the product.
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>>78028476
A lot of the edgelords of the 00s found a new guilt-heavy secular religion. Sexy Losers guy is also the same.
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>>78028476
ive seen posted ,but i have no clue if its true, that he tried to hit it off with a college girl that mocked him for his comic being full of sexist shit.

And that this was the source of the complete shift. When that was posted it also said that it didnt work and she still wouldnt want anything from him, so he has kept doubling down.
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>>78025925
Calm down m8
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>>78028492
Well at least someone did. Could you imagine if they did a class action lawsuit against Campbell, with those videos of the bonfire?
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>>78026748
So defensive. What's your webcomic called?
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>>78028523
>Sexy Losers guy is also the same.

Is that true?

If it is, I didn't need to hear it.
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>>78024807
>https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne
>Okay, time for me to rain on this parade. I didn’t know he had kids. Young kids. This alters the mix considerably. This makes him an asshole. Cops and firemen, to name but two, place their lives on the line every day to protect others. There was nothing Steve Irwin was doing that he could not have done—as did, say, David Attenborough—without putting his life at risk. This takes this from tragedy to stupidity, and, worse, irresponsibility
What a fucking cock.
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>>78028476
Tatsuya's a little bitch but to be fair make up is shit.
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>>78028265

Probably the Sean Howe book, which everyone on /co/ should read.
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>>78028762

Make up can make meh boys into pretty girls. Make up is awesome, plz leave.
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>>78028523
Don't talk shit about Clay unless you can back it up.
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>>78028762
idk some girls like it. I know one who makes her own as a hobby, I don't think that's a problem. Like if you don't like it, I don't think you should have to wear it either but I don't think the stuff's inherently evil.
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>>78028537
That's just /co/'s echo chamber of speculation.

I don't think anyone's ever seen Tats in person.
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Jay Naylor is one of those guys I hope I never meet in real life. The guy's an absolute cretin.

We could talk about his inability to take criticism, his strawman politics, his twisted views on women, his utter fetishization of masculinity and his his hilarious denial of his own bisexuality, but how about that time he stole another artist's character after both of them had a falling out?
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Remember that show Tutenstein?

Remember Secret Saturdays?

Both made by the same guy, a guy who has been in and out of mental institutions.

Jay Stephens! That was it.
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>>78026848
>Then we have Frank Miller who has been covertly writing about how great fascism is for years, only for everyone to be shocked when it turned out that he harbors pro-fascist sentiments. I mean, this is the guy who wrote Superman into being a government stooge, and Batman into an insurgent terrorist who installs a superhero dictatorship. Leaving alone his sanity, this isn't someone we should have held up in such high regard in the first place.

Don't forget, he wrote the script to Robocop 2, which he painted OCP as a psuedo-Nazi analog.
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>>78028886
They're still dudes and you're still a homo
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>>78028950
Secret Saturdays, really? What was Stephens's deal?
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>>78026825
I didn't knew the story behind that miscarriage comic. What a dick.
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>>78029438
This guy seems awesome.
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* Has stabbed him hand twice, one he claims was an "accident." Second hand stab was because someone criticized that a character WASN'T FAT ENOUGH.
* Has has hissy fits with TVTropes, Wikipedia, Reddit, and 4chan. Wikipedia took down a pic of him holding a cock after he asked his fans to upload said pic to his bio page, but refused to license it freely after being asked to use the proper CC license on Wikipedia.
* Gets around $10K a month in Patreon for doing less than 3 hours of work a day 5 days a week.
* His "fans" are pretty much running the comic at this point and he's just drawing what they want. I use "fans" loosely.
* Can't seem to spend a plotline more than 3 days. A week is considered a rarity.
* People praise him for introducing a transgender character; has now regulated the trap as nothing more than a background piece that speaks up when he needs a money boost.
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>>78029214
Good thing nobody watches Robocop 2
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>>78029501
His piercings and tattoos look stupid on him
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>>78029373

Clinical depression, apparently.
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>>78024785
I love Bob Ross but that quote pisses me off
>builds an empire based on painting
>net worth of millions doing what he loves
>becomes super recognizable and famous, people love him
>so sad
Love ya to death Bob, but c'mon.
>he's dead and that makes me sad too :(
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>>78029619
>>78024953
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>>78028938
>stole another artist's character
Why people pretend that this is a thing? Do people ask Toriyama everytime they want to draw Goku?
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>>78029522

Oh, he has had more piercings since that pic was taken. AND, it migrated into the comic where one of the characters got a piercing thru the nose.
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>>78028938
Wait, Jay Naylor as in the person who made that Little Red Riding Hood porno? The one with forced feminization, kekolding and gay sex? That dude says he's not at least a little homo?
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>>78028624
Different anon, here. I don't think making a web comic is objectively better than shitting around on /co/ all day, but, when I was doing it, I found it less depressing. Bette for me, I guess, but better for society? Hardly.
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>>78024953
>>78029651
I was not aware of that. I take it back. :(
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>>78029791
His comic has become a glorified version of his personal diary. Just like this guy.
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>>78028950
>>78029534

come on man that's not funny, are you saying mentally ill people shouldn't work a creative job?
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>>78029840

He still hasn't gone full transformation into a girl.
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>>78029854

Uhhhh... no?

I'm not judging or critiquing him at all. Just stating a fact.
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>>78029501
>someone criticized that a character WASN'T FAT ENOUGH.

to be fair the strip in question was supposed to show marigold feeling self-conscious about her body but jeph, being the hack that he is, just gave her slightly wider hips than the rest of the female cast and called it a day

i'm sure he didn't mean to offend anyone but man, don't make a comic about fat people problems if you can't fucking draw fat people
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TheOatmeal is a serial cheater. He cheats on his girlfriends apparently.
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Webcomics shouldn't even count, considering it's almost like it's prerequisite to have mental dysfunctions about your sex, weight or whatever to write one nowadays.
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>>78029795

He also has done tons of furry art that has numerous gay undertones. Wish VCL didn't purge his stuff...
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>>78030038

Webcomics are fair game, not all of them are unreported threats to the community they live in.
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>>78028517
>I knew not to trust that man with my money unless someone else is making the product.

Preach brother. I was shit posting furiously on /co/ the day he announced his kickstarter. I knew it was going to be BS. So many idiots though, just kept throwing him money. There were tons of other projects, that if they received a fraction of his funding, would've produced a better product. Some of his fans still haven't learned.

Glad to see most of them no longer have a presence on conventions anymore. :D
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>>78025311
>So when Lee conveniently forgetting to mention Kirby or Ditko time and time again is ok because he would do so if he's reminded?

Considering he's being compared to Bob Kane? Yes. Nobody is saying Lee is free from flaws, but fuck, there's a world of difference between what the two men did.
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>>78030035
Source?
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>>78029719
Do bands pay shit everytime they want to play someone else's music on air?
Oh, yeah.
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>>78030304
>what are covers
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>>78024785
>Who are some /co/ creators that are legitimately crazy or are scumbags?

This thread is too great to die. Here's an animator from Ed Edd and Eddy tripping balls, crawling on all fours, and getting shot to death by a cop. His name is Paul Boyd for anyone who is curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HIUbjnv8kI
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>>78030520
What. the. fuck
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>>78030251
One of them is a scumbag and the other is moreso, they're still both scumbags.
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I don't think I need to explain this one.
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>>78030764
Explain anyway
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>>78029795
>The one with forced feminization, kekolding and gay sex?

Oh hey, all of my fetishes. Thanks friend.
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>>78025597
>Joe Murray and Danny Antonucci have shown us that you can make a crazy cartoon, still maintain great quality, and still meet deadlines!
Those were after 1990, it was a different time then.
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>>78030520
Couldn't they have just tasered him or something once he was down? I mean what the fuck is a wounded man on all fours gonna do bite your fuckin shoes? Fair enough he could still pose a threat but was lethal force really necessary at that point?
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>>78025884
two people, Gerard did the backgrounds
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>>78030777
Guy worked on a cartoon. Turns out he groped a bunch of the female members of his crew. He got fired pretty quickly after that.
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>>78024785
>Who are some /co/ creators that are legitimately crazy or are scumbags?

All of the sjws. Meaning the entire industry.

Also John Byrne is a pedo. Not even kidding. He refuses to admit it, but he's one of those fags who thinks that "pedos are persecuted for their alternative sexuality" and that "there's nothing wrong with being a pedo". Literally anyone who thinks that is a pedo 100% of the time.
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>>78025194
>Steve Ditko is a full-blown Objectivist.

>implying there's anything wrong with that

Spotted thje sjw.
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>>78030824
>Turns out he groped a bunch
Already wrong, new record for /co/ stupidity
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>>78024953
>>78024785
>>78025062
Ross was a cokehead. Look closely and you can see a coke nail on one of his hands.
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>>78030964
Fuck off Skyler, we all know it's you
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>>78030824
You for got that in the process of being fired, he went completely nuts.

Shut down almost completely, strapped to a bed muttering the lyrics to various They Might be Giants song. I cannot make this shit up.
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>>78031152
>>78031166
that timing though
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>>78027879
Congrats that's the point
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>>78030777
>Explain anyway

Let me offer great story. Skyler, was apparently "mentally ill" and sexually harassed a lady who worked on Adventure Time. He groped her in the breakroom when no one was around. It's shitty, but that's all that happened. No rape, dick in the face, or 100 plz send nudes texts.

After going to the executives at Cartoon Network about the issue, she told a co-worker of hers about the issue. The executives pretty much decided on the spot that Skyler Page would be let go, and that would be the end of it. Her co-worker decided to SJW the situation on tumblr and tell the WORLD that Skyler Page is a rapist molester who kicks puppy dogs. You know, typical tumblr essay format.

So a wild fire arose from the whole fiasco. The tumblr army brigaded Page within hours and suddenly he became "mentally ill."

The story ends with Page tied to a hospital bed, occasionally popping in and out of the Clarence character and other voices he did. He lost full control over his show. His storyboard writer tried to take his position, and his family was brigaded by tumblrinas calling for his head. All because a co-worker of the offended female went full SJW.

The girl who got harassed had to come out and post an article chastising both Page and her co-worker. And then said she was fine with how CN executives handled the situation.
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>>78030779
It's pretty decent but if you haven't caught on yet it's also furry on human.
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>>78030708
>What. the. fuck

Those screams towards the end get me.
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>>78031152
What a fuckin party animal
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>>78030988
It was the 80's. Everybody and their mother was taking coke
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>>78031559
It's the 80s, do a lot of coke and vote for Ronald Reagan
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>>78030794
A time when people could meet deadlines, yes.
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>>78030807

>American cops
>using tasers correctly

You can only pick one, anon.
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>>78025597
I didn't realize Billy West posted on /co/.
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>>78030954
>mrw an objectivist used a government-subsidized product to shitpost over a government-created network of computers.
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>>78031559
>Everybody and their mother started taking coke
ftfy
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>>78026752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UojpZ_Ec-q8

You can fucking taste Katie's pain in this.
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>>78032010
there is no ethical consumption under capitalism
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>>78029984
To be fair, you are a fucking kek please kill yourself.
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>>78027006
Nervous breakdowns don't turn you into a cynical asshole that goes out of their way to piss off fans. "Nervous breakdown" is on par with "heatstroke" as far as bullshit excuses for why someone famous acts like a total cunt. The guy was a fucking loon and it just took a while for people to find out.
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>>78026967
She also finds the fact that her children are fully retarded due to her 'unschooling', to the point where they don't know how to count to 10, absolutely hilarious. Numbers don't really matter since the child in question was a girl so her purpose was to pop out more babies anyway.
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>>78025247

I know it's fetish shit/fap shit but these things often have me thinking "Why doesn't she get breast reduction surgery? Looks like they get in the way." Missing the point.
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>>78024953

Oh no, that's not all.

He had also himself been diagnosed with cancer and his brother died recently as well. He was going through really bad times when that video was made.
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>>78026498
You said so-called AND put it in quotes. Stop conflating the meaning of art to 'art I personally like and/or respect'
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>>78032472
I've done a lot of stupid shit when I'm on breakdowns, but I've always tried as far as possible to confine it to myself, normally locking me up in my room, to make sure I'm not going to do something shitty or even hurt someone else. Stealing people's money is pretty low, even for a mental breakdown, and should be judged as so.
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>>78026604
He actually cut off contact with almost everyone, destroyed his work and reputation as thoroughly as he could and vanished.

That's a little like a death.
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>>78032339
"since the networks were all run by dykes"
Holy shit, I feel so bad for Katie. How awful must it be to find out your childhood hero turned out to be a complete dickbag?
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>Ctrl+F Ryan Sohmer
>Nothing
Really? No love/hate for the balding shrimpy manlet who draws a character with the ridiculously transparent name "Rayne Summers", a wealthy beloved executive who shits all over everybody and is rewarded with adoration and endless sex and a full lush head of hair?
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>>78032010
Why is Bandora so goddamned cute? It's maddening.
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>No Dobson
well he did a lot of shit, but making fun of robin williams daughter when she was mourning on twitter has got to be the shittiest
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>>78026825
>sent a dick pic to an underage girl
>tried to get sympathy by using a real life event that was traumatic for his girlfriend
Jesus christ, fuck Tim Buckley with a pogo stick.
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>>78032339
jesus.
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>>78031995
it was canada
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>>78028052
White male blood in the water. All the nerd-adjacent interests are looking for scapegoats with the TERRIFYING EYE OF FEMINISM upon them.
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>>78026683

Dave pls
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>>78026523
>>78026412

He wrote a book about DMT. In order to write this book he took it every day for months.

He's nuts. Even if he wasn't always, he's definitely legit psycho now. He tried to start a fire in a comic book shop after his breakdown, among other strange bigfoot-like sightings.

I have a framed print of his Actually Ugly Duckling comic, and I still adore almost every example of his work.
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>>78026680
>>78028052
everyone in comics and animation is nuts.
everyone.
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>>78032626
The anon you're replying to doesn't believe in mental illness. It's weird seeing the pendulum swing like that. All the adults I grew up around felt the same way, then suddenly the Tumblr generation begins and any random thought you had was a 'legit mental illness' so naturally anons are beginning to feel the same way conservatives (in america at least) felt when I was a child.
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>>78027450
You couldn't tell from reading BCB?
Drama is oxygen to her.
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>>78026782

You mean that "I've been pretending to be depressed for years! Here's several other creators that pretended to be depressed!"

Maybe it's because I'm been depressed myself, but I didn't take that at face value for a second. It sounded like someone that really, really needed help.

A certain breed of depression is real good about making you believe you deserve to be depressed, that you deserve to suffer, and that you deserve to be hated. And that can push you to tear down all of the relationships you have, because you don't deserve to have nice things, even if it's people you've never met on the Internet wishing you well (or even to get better).
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>>78028762
I wish I could wear makeup. >:[

Not even trying to be a ladyboy it just makes me look nice
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>>78027006
>You only shit once or twice a day?
Wow damn man I don't even crap once a day. Twice in a 3-4 day period, usually.
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>>78028246
>He also made obscene phone calls to an octogenarian.
Sounds like someone couldn't handle the banter.
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>>78033108
eat more fiber
good sources of fiber include leafy greens, beans, and plenty of other things
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>>78031152
>>78030520

I always thought bipolar disorder growing up was just more hormonal mood swings, but having a coworker with it made me realize that shit can be schizophrenia tier and beyond.
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>>78031995
You're a retard and you're poorly informed.
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>>78027006
>What the fuck is wrong with you?

What the fuck is wrong with you that you are shitting three times every day?
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>>78025935

>Writing is non nonsensical 90% of the time

Anon wanted something good
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>>78033343
Three's not a WHOLE lot.

1-3 is probably normal range for me.
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>>78033075
dudes can and should wear makeup. go for it. movie stars all do.

shit is stupid expensive though.
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>>78033111
Russell Brand pls
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>>78028246
>In reaction to the telephone calls, Baillie said that her relationship with Brand had been brief and she now felt betrayed that he had revealed it to her grandfather. Baillie called for both Brand and Ross to be "sacked" by the BBC and stated that she and her family would be considering whether to make a formal complaint to the police.[8][18]

What the fuck is wrong with British people? Why would the police give a shit about any of this?
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>>78029984
'To be fair' it is completely possible to have a body image issue that doesn't actually exist, and is in fact fairly common. Especially among women, who are told that anyone above a size negative five is a fat pig.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder
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>>78033390
Yeah but that freak was acting like it's unheard of to shit less than three times a day. Fucker must be 400 lbs.
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>>78033203
>I always thought bipolar disorder growing up was just more hormonal mood swings, but having a coworker with it made me realize that shit can be schizophrenia tier and beyond.

Right? Can you imagine what this guy was like to make him mutate into that? That's his raw subconscious in full swing. And knowing he was an animator on Ed Edd and Eddy, I sometimes wonder if he's imitating Ed in those final moments. Animators are often forever alones and try to fuse their personalities with their toons to make them more, interesting.
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>>78033479
Who knows? Why do they all have the same eyes is what I've always wondered.
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>>78033479
Probably butt mad that he did this on radio.
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>>78027006
>You only shit once or twice a day? What the fuck is wrong with you?
How much do you think is the regular amount to shit, anon?
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>>78032809

To be fair, he might not have known the context of her post. He's pretty stupid.
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>>78033466
>dudes can and should wear makeup
>and should
isn't that a little presumptuous of you
who are you to tell me what i should or should not do
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>>78033479
The Brits love a spot of outrage culture.
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>>78033479
Okay, just imagine that none of these people are famous: two guys ring up an old man and make nasty comments about his grandaughter. If you were the grandaughter and knew who the two dickheads were, wouldn't you at least consider getting the police involved?
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>>78031152
Just want to post a quick reminder of what Skyler makes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnA4u9CaK7A

But do keep in mind that he's a sexist rapist manpig who hates women and deserves to be crucified for his misogyny.
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>>78033638
No he's right.
Some dudes are ugly and it could all be fixed with some base and I don't think I should have to stand to look at your horrid face when honestly I don't have to. That doesn't seem fair to me.
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>>78033642
They wouldn't have said any of that if none of them were famous.
Sounds like they were doing a bit at his expense and then inevitably crossed a line.
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Scott Allie is a known sexual abuser of both men and women as well as a violent alcoholic. The only reason he's protected is due to his ties with Mignola and bringing the Buffy comics to dark horse.
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>>78033620
Nah, he knew.
He took shots at her because he was trying to integrate himself further into the feminist crowd and she had in the past made comment(s) supporting Gamergate. He was expecting some support because of that.

The main bit to note here is after some outrage over his tweet, he 'apologised'. Which consisted of him saying "for some reason people got upset so here is an apology". He didn't actually understand that what he did was wrong.

Which I guess does fall under stupidity.
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>>78025890
Sim got kekked or rejected or something and went off the deep end trying to justify his hatred of women. These writings are just him convincing himself that he's better and smarter than everyone and everything in the universe.

Ironically later once he got back on medication he swung in the other direction and became an SJW.
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Mark Waid is a douchebag of the highest order.
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>>78025247
>Gigantic tits
>Completely flat ass and tiny boy hips
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>>78029522
They look stupid on everybody. I really wish there was a dedicated counterculture that just anti-body mods in any way (including tattoos, piercings, and make-up) without being Amish or uber-religious.
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>>78033815
>Ironically later once he got back on medication he swung in the other direction and became an SJW.
That happens very often, and it's because it's not swinging in the other direction at all, it's crossing over. Extremists have more in common then they don't, whether they're on the left or right, mens rights or feminist, whatever. They differ in the talking points but they have the exact same mental processes, which is why extremist ideologues tend to come up with the same sorts of messages but pointed at opposite directions. It's a lot less common for an extremist to become more moderate and nuanced as opposed to just swinging wildly to the other side, where they can still be comfortably extreme with a new target to take shots at.
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>>78032584
Forgot that in modern days you can literally poop a turd and call it "art".
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>>78034086
>Modern days
I assume you mean since the 60's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit
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>>78025890
The main point is how women try to declare their independence by choosing not to have kids, but ultimately they end up fulfilling their maternal instincts with pets instead. He's basically talking about people who are so adamant that you treat pets like people/children, instead of, you know, animals.
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>>78029719

You're right, it should have been rephrased.

Using another person's intellectual property after a harsh basically-romantic falling-out to promote commercial goods, while not outright illegal, is considered generally scummy behavior for an artist to do. Turning the character into even more of a depraved slut out of spite is just icing on the cake and a twist of the knife.
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>>78026848
Moore is a bit of a dick but you know fuck all if you really think that.

Miller isnt a dick for his morals, not matter how grey they are, besides his attitude towards that kinda stuff has changed dramatically in the past few years.

You sound like linkara
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>>78034303
man I love bdk, did the guy actually stop making it?
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>>78033540
I felt genuine fear when I read that post.
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>>78034714

If it did, that's some freaky news. I just got this off the Badly Drawn Kitties website, and it was uploaded today.
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>>78034823
wow, a couple of years ago I heard he wanted to quit so I kind of let bdk out of my radar, time to catch up on it.
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>>78027006
I shit usually twice a day, morning and evening. Product of a regular diet.
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>>78033479
Because it's harassment. You can't just go around treading on people because of who they are. Why do Americans have to have this beaten into them again and again and again?
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>>78028938
some of that furry shit he draws is pretty hot tho

>furry breeding cult

>ends one implying they will kek all of humanity out of existence

>sequel with timeskip reveals human army btfo them and they got almost genocided

i laffed
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>>78026825
He's actually a really nice guy now.
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>>78036102
Fuck off buckley.
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>>78036102
yah suuuure
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>>78032988
I'm that anon he was replying to and you're full of shit. I do believe in mental illness. I know it all too well, as I suffer from (actually diagnosed) depression and anxiety. But I'm saying depression and all that shit does not make you turn psychotic. The guy was a junkie and your standard up-his-own-ass artist like many before him. Depression doesn't make you start fires in stores or actively seek to make fans unhappy. The guy was fucking nuts, his brain was fried from all the drugs. Take your Tumblr-tier "YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS" bullshit out of here. I know about it all too well.
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>>78033827
She's supposed to be a preteen girl whom puberty hit hard and fast.

Because /co/.
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>>78025062
you only yell if you are a training instructor. Most plebs think all the military is basic training.
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>>78025194
>He once punched Bob Kane, because why wouldn't you.

Because Im a civilized human being. And he created Batman
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>>78030304
No actually, they don't.
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>>78024866

Show a little respect. Stan did lots for the industry and was instrumental to the creation of many of Marvel's top tier characters.

We and the industry owe him a lot of gratitude.
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>>78029404
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>>78036102
B^Uuuuckley
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>>78024866
>work alongside an objectivist douchebag
>have to completely curb his impulses
>credit him constantly
>constantly refer to self as 'co-creator' instead of creator
>revolutionized the industry
>still does as much as he can to keep the industry alive and kicking
>still seen as a douchebag because kirby got fucked over
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>>78033938
See you can't really be a counter culture when the thing you're against isn't mainstream.
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>>78027347
Being trusting and naïve about business isn't "crazy". It's just ignorance. Plenty of artists have gotten screwed in exactly this way, Hussie isn't unique in this regard.

Also, you're literally blaming the victim, I must assume, because you don't like him (or his fanbase).
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>>78025800
I dont like the "a non big two comic I've never read that's considered to be the best of the best? Not on my watch" meme
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>>78037884
Officially? Co-created.

And his family just paid $25,000 to have a star installed on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Because that's what those cost.
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>>78024807

i follow the twitter for him.

itd be great if he got punched in the face
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>>78026489
I wish someone would just draw tons of incredibly bad scat/diaper porn of his characters. but maybe they're scared they'd get sued. i wouldn't doubt it either.
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>>78039231
Is it even possible to sue someone for drawing fanart?
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>>78039262
technically no. it's fair use. but there are ways to sue for the same shit. its just literally nobody is dumb enough to sue someone for thousands of dollars and months of court time because a penis went in your characters vagina on the internet.
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>>78028938
We could just say he's an Objectivist.
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>>78039262
>>78039338
Penders is the kind of person to do that. You underestimate how stupid and petty he is
>>78039231
He did try to go after Palcomix for drawing porn of his characters, and he did post on their forums (And I think wrote one of their comics) under the name Fuzzyballs
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>>78032389
Is googling what an Objectivist means going to help me understand a comic book creator or should you just tell me what you mean in his history of recorded behavior.
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>>78024807
>>78039062

I remember the internet slap fight between him and Slott. I wanted so bad to agree with Byrne on just a storytelling viewpoint because Slott is a hack, but he was just... Honestly, almost incomprehensible
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>>78039356
I dunno, I was roommates with an objectivist in college. Was a pretty chill dude. We had casual conversations about objectivism on occasion and I made mention I kept having problems with the application of what, on the whole, often seem to be fairly straight forward tenants. But he never sperged out or got on my case. He was one of the most on the ball college people I met too. Had a clear plan in life, was achieving it, had a steady relationship that resulted in marriage after he graduated.

Just a normal dude. Good roommate.
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>>78039262

Can you sue someone for publishing works including your intellectual property without your permission? You bet you can!
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>>78039662
Google "fair use" senpai
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>>78028938
I was thinking "infantry" but it turns out I was thinking of Fred Perry, who I don't know to be an asshole

other than he was infantry
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>>78024866

What is up with the Stan Lee hate here? I watched interviews dating back to the early eighties and even then he credited his co-creators. (At least Kirby and Ditko)

Is it the whole "Stan Lee Presents" byline aspect? That's just marketing. How many movies advertise solely the director as if it is his project alone?
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>>78039685
you can still sue; you will probably get your case thrown out at the first test (ie it will not go to trial), but if you can argue that it doesn't meet fair use the other guy gets his chance to argue that it does and the court hears both and decides

then one or other of you runs out of money and settles
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>>78039662
Putting on the internet is not publishing. No profit is made.
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>>78039722
Fred Perry is just a guy who likes drawing curvy aminu girls. He seems fairly chill
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>>78039780
You can publish something without making money, because if you copy a movie and distribute it for free that's a copyright infringement
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>>78039780
Legally speaking, you publish a document when you send it from your computer to your printer, even if it never leaves your home.

Profit is not a requisite for something to be considered published.
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>>78039820
That's not the same as publishing. Duplication is a whole other thing.
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>>78039649
You must have met the only one that doesn't sperg then, because their Bible is a sperg screed
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>>78032732
Any reason to post this
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>>78028938
>his utter fetishization of masculinity
I mean, is there anything wrong with that when he's drawing literal pornography?
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>>78027201
Dobson is just a pathetic who-cares.
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>>78036102
I sincerely doubt that.

People like Buckley don't learn. They don't change, they don't grow, they don't mature. He is the center of his own little universe. To him, he is perfect, and it's everyone else who is crazy and stupid and immature and jealous of his talent and natural charm. To him, criticism and difference of opinion is, and always will be, a personal attack.

He is a textbook narcissist.
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Ed Catmull, the creator of Pixar, is heavily involved in the wage-fixing scandal between all the big animation and tech companies and refuses to acknowledge that it's a pretty shitty fucking thing to do.
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>>78027347
>Punished Huss
>A FALLEN LEGEND
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>ctrl+f
>Rebecca Sugar

I one day hope to meet her in person with my printed copy of her creepy as fuck Ed Edd and Eddy porn and ask her to autograph it. Then ask her if she's willing to produce a copy of the Steven from SU porn that undoubtedly exists.
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>>78040200
What's her deal? Come on, tell us a story.
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>>78040344
I'm jury out if he's mentally ill or just a self absorbed asshole
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>>78039626
Objectivism is a political system made up by a crazy novelist from the 50's named Ayn Rand. It can be summed up most simply as "Greed is Good". But it has a number of theories; reality is objective (thus the name) so everything they say is objectively correct. Altruism is evil, religion is evil. The richest in society should be given total freedom, the poorest are leeches and deserve what they get. Anything that benefits the individual benefits the whole so everybody should be as greedy as possible and it is objectively correct to do so with no room for interpretation.

Objectivists, unsurprisingly, tend to be extremely standoffish and black and white. Superhero stories already tend to be black and white, but Ditko pushed it even further with the deeply ideological Mr. A, who regards everything as either deepest evil or purest good, with shades of grey being deepest evil in disguise. Rorshach was based off him. Ditko himself is a standoffish asshole according to all accounts of working with him.
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There's literally nothing wrong with objectivism.
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>>78040608
Sounds like the sort of shitty excuse for a philosophy that a teenager would come up with, then abandon after reaching adulthood.
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>>78040547
>draws gay child porn
>gets her own show
the absolute madwoman
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>>78040709
Capitalism is many things, and many good things even, but "a system of morality" is not one of them.
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>>78040740
SHHHH
They actually think the market is good and noble and that capitalists are JUUUUST greedy enough to take what they want but won't rob everyone blind fix the system so they can continue robbing everyone blind then take everyone's money and leave for a socialist based society where they are protected when shit inevitably hits the fan.

What's that?
That is what litterally EVERY CEO DOES. WOOOOoooOOoOOOOOOWWW
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>>78040832
No such things as "good", "nobility" or "evil" for that matter. Everyone does what they can to survive
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Objectivism loses any merit the moment it us unable to recognize that reality is relative.
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>>78026059
>I think the worst part of John K. is his fanbase.
fuck off

I love Ren & Stimpy and I don't condone his behavior in the slightest
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>>78032732
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>>78040709
Objectivism is a lot like communism.

It could only work if it weren't for a little thing called human nature.
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>>78025194
you're full of shit. you exaggerating stuff you've read on /co/.
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You know who isn't a dick?

Garth Ennis.
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>>78027450
So is her asshat boyfriend Briefcase or Suitcase or whatever.
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>>78041800
He's Irish.
All of them are cunts, I wish someone would nuke Ireland already
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>>78042113
He's an American.
That overrules the Irish.
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>>78042113
Catholics tried, but they don't really do 'science' so they couldn't figure out how.
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>>78025194
>Chuck Austen can't get work in comics any more,

X-Men fans WERE unduly harsh, downright psychotic regarding his work. All for him just trying to do his job. And DC fucked him over, blacklisting his name at the company because he wouldn't take a pseudonym.

Dud got treated rather unfairly
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>>78042174
I think I've been outbantered
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>>78041728
what all of it
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>>78040344
>>78032732
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>>78042195
Plus a lot of his work on MAX was just fucking psycho trash, so you'd expect the X-fans to be easier on one of their own, right?
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>>78027415
I have a BM about once or twice a week and I'm fine.
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>>78033075
Why would you want to ruin your skin
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>>78027160
I would like a source on Willis because that sounds like bullshit.

Tatsuya is not crazy, he is just a paragon of white boy guilt who learned that something he believed was wrong and now preemtively vilifies and apologizes for his own behavior without prompting. Not crazy, just has no spine.
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>>78039005

To wit, thunt(Goblins) also got fucked this way, or sorta, he started the KS was in his friend's(supposed longtime friend) company's name and is supposedly trucking along with completing the game by himself right now. Chloe(Ggar) similarly had to do the work herself because the people who were supposed to help her fucked her over.
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>>78026848
>Oil is an infinite resource
Why was there that hydrodgen car in Odyssey then? It seem like he was pushing alternative energy big time in Odyssey
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>>78036102
I don't really blame Buckley for being shitty, he got unnaturally successful as a teenager and had his awkward teen years where it's expected for you to fuck up public for the world to see.

He's a manchild in the most sympathetic use of the word. One day he was just doodling shitty comics about video games and the next he has a full blown career and public presence. He never had a chance to work a real job or grow up.
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>>78040554

Not that anon, so don't quote me on this, I'm pulling this from memory, some of the major things are:

>proudly admitted to fucking a guy she knew was married, died of cancer later, made it about herself, someone could probably post a screencap

>either started or stoked the fire during the yale stewart fiasco.
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>>78048269
She did not publicly or proudly announce she was fucking a married guy, nor do we know whether or not the wife was aware. However that guy did die of cancer and she did kind of make it about her self after that. It really only became apparent she was fucking him after he died though.

Don't remember the Yale Stewart thing well enough. Some shit just blows over, huh.
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>>78024785
Mark Millar licks goats
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>>78037884
Ahem.
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>>78048294
It seems she mostly talked about it after the fact. She's still horribly shameless about fucking the dude though.
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Chris-chan
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>>78028523
The dude's clinically depressed and apparently had to quit drawing for medical reasons.
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>>78048071
>he is just a paragon of white boy guilt

But he's a nigger and his people did Pearl Harbour and made suicide bombing popular with the durkas.
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>>78048590
>the guy with the wife and three kids is blameless because he had canska

fuck you, boy
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>>78049830
>the guy with the wife and three kids is dead because he had canska

that, and the fact that he really wasn't a comic/cartoon person, are pretty much the only reasons we don't talk about him
nobody is not blaming him, we just don't think he's an asshole because he didn't go on twitter and say "hey I'm dying of cancer, but at least I'm cheating on my wife"
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>>78049830
Nobody is saying the guy isn't blameless too. But a - he dead, b - he wasn't blabbing on twitter and drawing comics about it, c - he's not a high profile figure in comics like Leth so there's not much to say about him.

They're both despicable, but Leth more so for publicly alluding to it to an audience as if it were something to be proud of.
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>>78050182
Don't you know, thinking adultery is bad is slut-shaming! Be more sex-positive!
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>>78033663
Well aren't you a little cunt in secret.
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>>78039742
Because even the filthy normies know who Stan Lee is now. In order to keep up with the appearances of being edgy hipsters, /co/ now acts like they hate Stan Lee and always have.
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>>78050215
But monogamy is my fetish. Pls dont kink shame, K?
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>>78032000
Yeah. I spoke to him at Metacon a few years back. He's a regular.
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>>78048590

Anyone else feel like we are some part of some inner circle knowing all this stuff. There are tons of artist and stuff I follow like web comic level and stuff. But it feels so weird knowing like all this personal stuff.


I remember one went on a rant one time cause she was going to lose her apartment cause all the money she made from commissions wasn't a considered like a reliable source of income or something, so her family was going to be kicked our of their apartment. Her parents didn't' want to help her. So she went on ranting about how she hated and mother and blamed her for all her life miseries. Starting with when her mom made her get an abortion at 19 and never supported her and stuff.

I'm just some guy that knows you from your art work and It's just yeah....
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>>78030988
>1980's
>Artist
>Doing drugs

Wow, what an insane concept.

That said, Bob could get dark every once in a while.

>Season 1
>Maybe there's a little cabin down next to this river, an old cabin
>Maybe a trapper used to live in this cabin but one day he fell in the river an drowned, so now it's got nobody to take care of it

Jesus Bob...
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>>78050182
>They're both despicable,

For doing something that makes them happy?

I guess we should outlaw divorce then. Or we could stop being colossal babies about the rights of others to act freely.

> a - he dead,

Literally irrelevant. If anything you should be going harder on him. The dead have no reputation to defend.

>b - he wasn't blabbing on twitter and drawing comics about it,

People talking about their experiences and communicating them through art?! Shocking! Outrageous!

>c - he's not a high profile figure in comics like Leth

Literally never heard of her in any other context than virgins crying about how she got laid one time.
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>>78040608
My understanding of Objectivism's approach to altruism is that it is not regarded as evil, but that it isn't considered a virtue. Basically, that an individual who chooses to behave altruistically is free to do so, but the societal linking of altruism to moral behavior is wrong - you don't have any kind of moral obligation to offer anything to anyone.
I've never read Atlas Shrugged, though, just some brief examinations of Objectivism as a philosophy.
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>>78050678
If anything divorce is a moral alternative to cheating
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>>78050533
>Yeah. I spoke to him at Metacon a few years back. He's a regular.

Not Billy West, but yeah, heard he checks out /co/ once in a blue moon. Back on to the topic though, John K. is the reason why Billy will not use his Ren or Stimpy voices during con readings. There's that much friction between the two that West doesn't want to bother mentioning his involvement with Ren and Stimpy. It helps prevent possible suits from John K. who originated the voices of the characters. His claims are that the voices were invented by him, and West just fine tuned them, so John feels he's rightful owner of them. And that's why we can't have Ren and Stimpy panels at cons. Fucking John K.
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>>78042298
No, because X-Men fans tend to love the characters, not cheer on as they're ruined beyond all comprehension.
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>>78048098
>To wit, thunt(Goblins) also got fucked this way,

I was once an avid Goblins fan. When the site was hosted by the Least I Could Do guy, Thunt had to offer 2 updates a week. He claimed this killed him.

It's BS. Every excuse he offered on lacing updates were akin to those I heard back in art school. You know, kids just pretending their artistic ability came at an emotional cost they made with Satan? So updates changed from twice a week to 4 times a month, and then to WHENEVER, finally hitting a fully year hiatus.

Couple that with the fact he regularly BEGGED fans for finances, like putting a down payment on his house, paying for one of his users to receive financial help, his medical expenses, and then this game when the comic was not yet completed. He has some bad money handling skills. The game was a huge issue for me, since his comic was just started to gain popularity, and he took time from updates to work on the game.

Lol, who do his fans think they will play this shitty game with when they are so few and scattered.

Thunt is also VERY thin skinned and sheltered. I met him at the New York comic con. I watched him get angry when a random chinese delivery guy casually flung a menu on his table, like he did with every table in the aisle. That's FOB chinese personality in a nut shell, especially when they're handing out menus. So Thunt's jimmies were rustled and I explained to him that the guy was just doing his job an immigrant worker. He was still perturbed by it while we had our conversation.

I'm glad I only paid for printed volumes of the comic and a t-shirt. Not worth anything else.
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>>78051602
I'M SAD
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>>78025925
Yes. Please post it in the drawthread when you're done. What's your ETA?
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>>78048879
Does he really count? It seems to me that he's just extremely autistic and was raised by really bad parents.
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>>78032951
>He wrote a book about DMT. In order to write this book he took it every day for months.
Source?
You'd think people would be a lot less shit-fitty about the ordeal if such a fact was true.
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So Byrne does those shitty Star Trek photo comics now right. He used himself in an issue as basically an old man yelling at people to get off his lawn.
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>>78028488
Some guy took over the kickstarter and began shipping books, I think
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>>78052158
wat

I demand pictures.
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>>78048177

Are you really looking for logic in Batman Odyssey?
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>>78024807
Rofl. This guy's a barrel of laughs. I love it when impotent little weak men try to act like they're hard.
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>>78025194
>He once punched Bob Kane
I'm pretty sure it was only a slap.
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>>78025429
>Besides which, Spider-Man's original concept had fuckin 1776 booties
wasn't that Jack Kirby's Spider-Man design?
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>>78052419
Yup. He kind of looks like Fagtano desu.
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>>78031867
Deadlines are restrictive and suck, ask any modern animator that has to finish a storyboard in a week, 500+ drawings for a 11 minute episode

It's hard to make anything that looks good on a tight schedule. Rocko to be frank looks like shit and EEnE seasons were years apart and it shows
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I'd wager 20% of all artists and "creator" types masturbate to cp just based on how fucked up they are, especially the american ones.
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>>78034577

Moore is talented as hell, and is one of the greats. However, his rape scenes are tiresome, and his rants are even moreso, especially when he's spitting on his fans, the very people who got him to where he is.

And yes, Frank is a dick for his beliefs. When you're seriously espousing the benefits of fascism, it gives everyone a free pass to completely dismiss you as a person.

Oh, and, DKR is overrated, and the only truly great thing that he wrote about Batman is Year One, which is one of the best Batman stories ever written. I'll give him that much.
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>>78052841
>Moore is talented as hell, and is one of the greats. However, his rape scenes are tiresome, and his rants are even moreso, especially when he's spitting on his fans, the very people who got him to where he is.
Faggot.
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>>78029840
Fuck, I miss Real Life Comics. Was one of the first webcomics I ever read. Stopped reading when he hooked up with Liz and it went from being 'Real Life Comics' to 'Greg and Liz Comics'.

I can only imagine it got worse when they popped out a kid.
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>>78042113

He's Northern Irish. Don't you dare associate real Irish people with those sellouts.
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>>78053727
scotsman detected
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>>78050984
>moralfaggotry

there's your problem, you're assuming there has to be a third way between the law and the reality

neither of them did anything illegal, why are you so desperate to protect the feelings of the widow here?

if she didn't leave him even though his girlfriend was shouting about it all over the internet she's just as bad as they were

who is the moral victor in this scenario? the state that has to intervene and take the kids into care? the parents who lose everything because they immediately went to legal sanction when one of them did something the other didn't like? the kids who suffer two parents who only stay together "for the kids" and fight every day because their enforced relationship makes them both miserable?

don't pretend you understand grownups, kiddo
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>>78053819

Not Scottish. Those guys are dicks too.
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>>78053915
Wow I'm super impressed at how mature you are on an anonymous image board, mister. But nah in a general sense cheating seems like a dick move. If you don't want to be with someone don't be with them.
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>>78035835
>My feelings should be protected by law.
What the fuck is going on in the UK?
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>>78033823
What exactly has he done other than dislike Man of Steel and state some political opinions the /co/ circlejerk doesn’t like?
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>>78027347
>liked homestuck

hahahahha, go fucking die.
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>>78048583

Steranko is a joy to follow on Twitter. His Sunday Q&As are a great start to the week.
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>>78053915

If you have an extramarital relationship, it must be done with the full knowledge and consent of your married partner. To do otherwise destroys trust. Some people aren't monogamous people, and that's fine, but one must be responsible and willing to face consequences.

Kirk did a scummy thing for dating Kate on the DL. Kate also did a scummy thing for allowing it to remain a secret. They're not bad people, but even good people can act like scum when they're not thinking straight.
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>>78054757
How do you know that the wife wasn't okay with it?

For all we know, they were estranged but stayed married for the kids or something like that.
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>>78037600
she's going to have the worst kind of back-problems before she even hits 18
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>>78054757
>They're not bad people, but even good people can act like scum
ayyyy
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>>78054872
It's not like any of us would do any different.
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>>78054308
Go to bed, Waid. No one wants you here.
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>>78054802

or
OR
Maybe the most fucking likely thing happened and she's the victim of the whole affair and wouldn't be okay with it like a normal fucking person.

Evidence points to that the wife is not, in fact, Anthony Burch.
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>>78042113

England plz.
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>>78054892
>implying
If we could, then there wouldn't be so many virgins on /co/.
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>>78053915
>hey getting married isn't an actual commitment and let's just stop pretending that anyone's word means anything because I'm a cynical fuck who will literally never trust anyone
>Calls others kiddo
I don't even believe in monogamy and actually think this kind of shit is the reason why it should fall out of favor, but if you don't think that people making a commitment to each other deserves some sort of protection for the widow, I don't know what to tell you.
And fuck, we're entirely unaware if the widow said "Fuck it you've got cancer, bang whoever you want, you're gonna die anyway".
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>>78055074
That's true.
No matter how bad someone can be, at least they're not Anthony Burch.
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>>78032732
I think to an extent the thread's mostly about the behind the scenes stuff, rather than just what they put in their work.
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>>78054308
Complete manbaby who ragequit DC over NOT MUH bulllshit and literally has a hit list of people that need to get fired or die before he even will speak to DC in a professional context again.
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>>78054892
>>78055107
You cunts make me sick, joking or otherwise.
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>>78055074
The possibility of a failing relationship that doesn't want to formally split apart for whatever reason isn't existant, apparently. If you're referring to the obituary as proof that they were still solidly together, it isn't going to mention anything potentially negative like that.

>>78055173
The New 52 was an embarrassment. You can debate the validity of the concept, but the execution really could’ve been better.
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>>78055178
Welcome to 4chan.
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>>78055117
What comic is that from, partner?
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>>78024785
>ctrl F
>Bryne
Cmon guys
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>>78024807
pedophile too
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>>78055308
"Byrne", kemosabe.
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>>78055308
You didn't get any hits because you spelt his name wrong.

Byrne was mentioned right in one of the first posts.
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>>78050583
That's just what it means to be a new artist today in this social media world. The days where your brand was your work are long over. Now your brand is you, the artist, and anything personal you share on the net is part of it. You either have to give in to having your dirty laundry out in the open or give up on posting online like an average person and dedicate your online presence to professionalism.
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>>78055308
Maybe you should try spelling Byrne's name right?
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>>78041448
I think that would make you fan of R&S, not a fan of him. No need for aggression.
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>>78055288
Flex Mentallo, I think
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>>78025884
Wait so Cerberus isn't good? Shit I just bought the first trade from Instocktrades thinking it would be good.
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>>78056128
It's pretty amazing through issue 250 or so, then Sim really starts going mad.
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>>78055288
Flex Mentallo. Try GIS next time before asking.
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>>78054802

From Leth's frustration at the beginning of the relationship and the fact that she only talked about it after she was dead, and that no one said "oh she was fine with it", we can surmise that she probably didn't know.

Cheating is fine when everyone is open about it and if the other person is OK with it (maybe because of lost sex drive, a fetishes that person doesn't want to do, stuff like that). That includes the other person. There is no reason to beleive that that was the case.
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>>78025071
Its on YouTube and he has a twitch channel now.
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>>78027347
andrew hussie looks like nathan fielder
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>>78048590
I'm simultaneously disgusted and comforted by how young girls are bizarrely comfortable with the idea of banging old guys. On the one hand it's fucking disgusting and suggests they are subhuman, on the other it means I might get to bang them when I'm old.
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>>78056356
How are they any more subhuman than the old guys fucking much younger girls?
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>>78056450
It's natural to find young girls attractive. It's not natural to find old men attractive. Imagine a young guy fucking a 70 year old lady. It's just bizarre.
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>>78056128
it is good. It does things with the medium no one else has thought to do. Sure, Sim goes out of control eventually and puts too much of his own opinions into it, but it's worth reading.

With Cerebus you realize just how much most writers/artists stay in their comfort zone and do not exploit the particularities of the medium. I mean for fuck's sake, lettering nowadays is done in-house and is soulless. Just compare that to the amazing things Sim does with lettering. So many people do comics not because they love the medium, but only because they love the stories. Sim actually loves both.
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>>78048590
>she mentions the widow she keked as being a "jealous girlfriend"

Oh my god what a heartless fucking cunt.
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>>78056494
If you're talking about Leth, the guy wasn't even approaching 70. Yes, it'd be weird to fuck an elderly person, but not so much if they're just middle-aged.
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>>78050678
>doing something that makes them happy
>talking about their experiences and communicating them through art
That's an awful lot of words just to say "bragging about cheating"

>Literally never heard of her
"Literally irrelevant."
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>>78048590

This boils my blood. To not only use someone else's cancer as a platform for attention seeking, but bragging about cheating with him behind his widow's back? Fucking sub-human cunt.
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>>78053915
>why are you so desperate to protect the feelings of the widow here?

Basic empathy for the family and disgust at someone that thinks cheating with a dying man is something to be proud of. Top yourself please.
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>>78033708
>They wouldn't have said any of that if none of them were famous.

Not really relevant to whether it's okay to harass old men about fucking their grandkids.
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>>78058316
>basic empathy

Clearly she's a total bitch or the dying man would have wanted to be with her at the end. He didn't. She's a bad person. Get over it.
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>>78058662
or he's scum?
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>>78058662

>Cheating on someone means the non-cheater is at fault

You're right. Heartless bitch should have had the decency to be younger.
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