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Civil War II officially announced (/bmb/)

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Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
Artist: David Marquez

>“The original CIVIL WAR is one of the most important Marvel comics ever, and we are all very excited to have come up with what we hope is a story worthy of the title,” echoes Bendis. “If you are scared of earth shattering Marvel events where no one is safe…be afraid, be very afraid.”

http://marvel.com/news/comics/25519/the_drums_sound_for_civil_war_ii
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Literally kill me.
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I like the handful of squares where you can really see the /pol/ emerging
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>>78010202
>/co/mblr out and about within 2 posts.
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>>78010202
You know they're going to be filled because /pol/ is always right.
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You guys seem to hate it, but you just can't shut the fuck up about it. Misery loves company?
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They haven't even finished Secret Wars and they already have another Civil War?
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>>78010145
>Civil war happens in '06-'07
>Status quo lasts basically until '10
>But then Scott and Logan schism in '10
>Cap and Tony back at each others' throats in '14
>Secret Wars III apparently fixes Tony/Cap, kills Cyclops in '15, X-Men and Avengers sort-of unified internally in the new Earth-8
>But wait there's more - CIVIL WAR II in '16

I don't understand why they even bother hyping hero vs. hero events because that's all Marvel's been for the last decade, either with the Avengers or with the X-Men (or both).
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>The absolute state of Marvel

When did money become more important than shame?
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>>78010478
With Alonso.

I honestly miss Quesada. At least he let comics run for more than 12 issues without relaunching them.
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>Bendis
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>>78010145
>“The original CIVIL WAR is one of the most important Marvel comics ever

I know he's just being a good company boy but I would never read an event written by someone who says this.
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>>78010398
>Secret Wars III
I'm kinda casual but why III? I've read Secret Wars with Beyonder teleporting heroes and villains to some planet to fight, I believe that was number I. There was also Secret War with Fury taking Logan, Spidey, Cap and some others to Latveria, but that was singular, one "War", so it should not count. When and what was Secret Wars II?
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>Apocalypse Wars
>Civil Wars 2
WE WANT THE MOVIE AUDIENCE
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>>78010393
They already announced an X-Men/mutant event called Apocalypse Wars.
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>>78010535
Secret Wars III (just called Secret Wars) it's when Doom takes over the power of the Beyonders and recreates the currently decaying multiverse and serve as its God. It ends with mostly status quo but the Fantastic Four are disbanded and Doom is good now.
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>>78010535

The Beyonder dicking around trying to learn to be a real boy, it's not very good

>>78010528

He's not wrong, importance is not a synonym for quality
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>>78010612
Yeah, I know that Secret Wars III is the current one. I was asking about Secret Wars II.
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>>78010649

oh and it was a year or two after the first Secret Wars
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>>78010535
Secret Wars II was when the Beyonder came back to Earth and tried to understand why humans are humans. It was the first event full of tie ins if I'm not mistaken. It ran in Avengers, X-Men and some other books. Secret War doesn't count.
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>>78010202
Bobby...
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>>78010145
Make sure he never sees this before it finishes.
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>>78010673
>>78010686
Oh, thanks. Most of my Marvel knowledge comes from pic related series, some random comics and random articles.
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>>78010145
>Civil War II officially announced
>Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>78010528
This is objectively true, it sold a lot of issues, was generally well liked, and steered Marvel's direction for years
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I think I'm done with Marvel for awhile after this announcement.
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>>78010813
>was generally well liked
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Bendis is the best writer at narvel. And I actually think civil war is one of the most intresting comic books ever. Who care if he made iceman gay. It's okay to be gay
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>>78010847
>narvel
Back in my days we shilled better.
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>>78010145
At this point I'm rooting for the comic book crash to happen.
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>>78010145
i just hope that when this "changes everything forever" it goes back to the way things were before ANAD
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>>78010887
But things before ANAD were terrible too.
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>>78010145
>tfw more excited about playing bingo in the inevitable threads with /co/mrades than about the actual event.

Watching people reply to the pastas is also amusing. I wonder how many issues it will take to get bingo.
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>>78010833
Yes, things you dont like can be popular, you should get used to it because your taste is shit mate :^)
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>>78010896
Fact: things were always terrible. even that thing you thought was good was in fact terrible.
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>>78010287
Secretly everyone is a Bendis fan. Sure people here like to feel they have superior taste by calling him shit, hack or whatever they want. They feel better knowing their current indy darling is way better than the top dog at Marvel because it somehow validates the comics they are reading and that's fine.

And yeah the things people complain about Bendis are true as well. He likes to write for trades with slow pacing arcs and his characteristic dialogue. Not to mention putting the stories over any kind of continuity fans want to be acknowledged.

But it's also true that what he does is exactly what Marvel needs. He actually puts some effort in trying to change and advance these characters. You people always criticize his changes because you don't want your characters to advance that fast. Maybe if a change is teased and slowly build then in ten years you will accept it but Bendis doesn't have ten years. He wants to move forward himself not wait until his grandsons do the job for him. You hate him for that but it's what Marvel need. His stories also appeal to the readers. He writes what they want to read. Compare Guardians of the Galaxy against Inhumans. Both had the same number of variants but Bendis still won because he writes the team of Guardians people are interested in reading, accuse him of waifuing or whatever but people accpeted Kitty as Star-Lord because Bendis sold her to them in the first issue. He also put the Avengers on the map and some might say he did it by using gimmicks and events but he was the one who dared to pull these gimmicks and events, and they worked. People liked it. Bendis does know what people want. /co/ of course has other ideas, and most likely those ideas would send Marvel into bankruptcy again.

Bendis works, and /co/ loves him. All the hate messages are just the way they have to show their love.
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>>78010535
I think that's the one where Spider-man taught Beyonder to poop
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>>78010977
here is your (You)
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>>78010977
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>>78010202
I know right? It's like that chart misrepresents how unpredictable Marvel can be!
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>>78010947
>Annihilation
>terrible

>>78010929
I like better things than CW, Shilly Willy.
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>>78010145
>The original CIVIL WAR is one of the most important Marvel comics ever
Just kek my shit up senpai
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>>78010145

This page from Secret Wars Too is so real... They know what they're doing but they're still doing it...
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>>78010145
you're going to get bingo by issue one.

probably even by the prologue issue.
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How can somebody still buy comics from this shitty company is beyond me
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>>78010977
nice pasta
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DC might be a flop, but at least it still has (some) dignity.
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>>78011422
All you need is the cbr, reddit, and twitter hype to trick people into buying.
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>>78011422

Well, I was bying Silk because the character and story was good. Plus the art is cute.
I want to buy the new Hulk, because it has good jokes and has really good art.
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>>78010828

No u aint. If you ate their shit of the past 5 years, you will continue to do so. You have become drone'd, you cant escape.
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>>78010145
God damn it the first civil war was such shit

Fuck the movies for resurrecting this turd event
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>>78010145
Needs 'All heroes not complying to registration are deported to Mexico'
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This is divine punishment for that one weekend full of SoPs.

Repent, /co/.
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>>78010528
Marvel has been pushing this narrative that Civil War is good for almost a decade now, and with a movie coming they're only pushing it harder.

The sad thing is mindless casuals eat it up and enjoy the book because they were told to. Nobody has their own opinion anymore.
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Is there only one comic publisher with integrity?
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>>78011635
Funny punishment, to give us material for a future SoP.
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I just can't wait for the threads. They'll either be really fun or absolutely terrible
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>>78011716
>Imagay
Ha ha, nope. They want to be Marvel.
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>Literally less than a year after Secret Wars: Civil War
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>>78011716
Image is no different than the big 2. I literally I'm pitching a tv show the publisher
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>>78012182
Which is still the best comic with "Civil War" in its name.
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>>78011119
this is obviously making fun of feminists though...
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>>78010782
I always wondered, did Millar part with Marvel on good terms? I guess he's friends with Quesada and Bendis, but it seems like they're having Bendis do the follow ups to Old Man Logan (then it's Lemire doing it) and Civil War.
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>>78010833
I thought it was terrible, but it's one of Marvel's top selling TPBs for years now, so it is "generally well-liked" as that anon says.
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>>78013034
It would be sexist if he DIDN'T hit her for being a girl.
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>>78013342
*because she's a girl.
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Guys how do we kill Bendis? I feel like that's the only option left, either that or he will continue to fuck up comics for years
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>>78013404
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nigga, do you even know who your talking about? He's the master of Marvel, the king of comics, the future Editor-in-Chief. He has 2 shows based on his creations, Powers and Jessica Jones, and someday Mile Morales will be the next Spider-man in movies or TV.

Sorry mate, but Bendis is the King of Marvel. Those on Team Bendis will guard any and all storylines created by Bendis, or expand on it. I mean look at this shit >>77869998

Once he finally runs Marvel, we will enter an era of Bendis continuity. As long as there's a franchise with a movie or TV show, it won't be safe from Bendis Continuity.

He' the future Editor-in-Chief of Marvel, and the other writers at marvel know it. The ones that aren't with him are off doing Star Wars.
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>>78013404
I feel like people are getting tired of his shit and Marvel's just trying to milk him as much as they can for now.
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>Civil War
>important
>basically a rip off of the X-men's Mutant Registration Act story arc but not as well written
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>>78011472
they picked up Frank fucking Miller. We're currently in another Harley Quinn Variant Month. There's another Batman Weekly....... yet it's still not as dumb as Bendis continuing to get work
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>>78013404
The only thing that can bring down Bendis is Bendis himself. Someday he going to insult someone or something big, every SJW is going to throw a shitstorm, and he ends up leaving Marvel, thus freeing us from him and his toadies.
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>>78010833
>>78011162
>>78011703
Civil War is terrible but it's been doing well in trade sales consistently.

>>78013245
And before anybody asks, here's the top 10 selling Marvel TPBs from the Bookscan lists. Bookscan covers books sold at like Barnes and Noble, Books-a-Million, and other places that aren't comic shops.


Top 10 Marvel for 2009:

#1 Stephen King’s Dark Tower: Treachery HC
#2 Halo: Uprising HC
#3 Civil War
#4 Stephen King’s Dark Tower: The Gunslinger Born HC
#5 Secret Invasion
#6 Origin
#7 Wonderful Wizard of Oz
#8 Civil War hardcover
#9 Marvel Zombies
#10 Marvel Adventures Iron Man vol 1

Top 10 Marvel for 2010:

#1 Kick-Ass hardcover
#2 The Dark Tower: The Fall of Gilead
#3 Halo: Helljumper
#4 The Dark Tower: The Battle of Jericho
#5 Civil War
#6 Old Man Logan
#7 Invincible Iron Man vol 1 (the one by Fraction)
#8 The Dark Tower: Treachery
#9 Siege
#10 Stephen King's The Stand vol 1
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>>78013649
>SJW turning on Marvel.
Your delusional mate. They are the BIGGEST shills for the company. Marvel literally doesn't give a fuck, because the moment any SJW turns on Marvel they get eaten up by the shills. Remember #fireremender? Writers and artists shit all over those SJW until the SJW turned on their own for Marvel. Then you have people like Slott who will block you just for the hell of it.

And then you have >>78013493 showing how safe Bendis is thanks to Jessica Jones and Spider-miles.
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Eh. As long as Kamala is still being written by Willow. I'll be fine.

Willow and Bendis are apparently buddies IRL so Bendis won't mess with her too much.
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>>78013761
Top 10 Marvel for 2011:

#1 Castle: Deadly Storm
#2 The Dark Tower: The Journey Begins
#3 Siege
#4 The Dark Tower: The Battle of Jericho
#5 Wonderful Wizard of Oz
#6 Old Man Logan
#7 The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger
#8 Civil War
#9 The Heroic Age
#10 Mark Millar's Nemesis

Top 10 Marvel for 2012:

1. Kick-Ass 2 (hardcover, I think)
2. Avengers vs X-Men hardcover
3. Infinity Gauntlet
4. Civil War
5. The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger
6. Fear Itself hardcover
7. Avengers vs X-Men: The Road to AvX
8. X-Men Schism hardcover
9. Marvel Masterworks: The Avengers vol 1
10. Avengers: The Childrens Crusade hardcover
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Civil War? Civil War 2?
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>>78014088
Another one?
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>>78013908
Kamala adopted the kittens?

That just makes her more cute.
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>>78014024
Top 10 Marvel for 2013:

#1 Hawkeye vol 1
#2 Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe
#3 Deadpool vol 1: Dead Presidents
#4 Hawkeye vol 2
#5 Kick-Ass 2 Prelude: Hit-Girl hardcover
#6 X-Men: Days of Future Past
#7 Infinity Gauntlet
#8 Avengers vs X-Men
#9 Kick-Ass 2
#10 Civil War

Top 10 Marvel for 2014:

#1 Guardians of the Galaxy vol 1 (doesn't say if this is Bendis' or Abnett's. I think it's the Bendis one)
#2 Civil War
#3 Infinity Gauntlet
#4 Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe
#5 Deadpool: The Complete Collection (Daniel Way)
#6 X-Men: Days of Future Past
#7 Ms. Marvel vol 1
#8 Deadpool by Daniel Way
#9 Hawkeye vol 1
#10 Deadpool Kills Deadpool
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>>78014237
Another one.
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>>78014237
Another one? Another Civil War?
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>>78013761
>>78014024
>>78014347
Marvel is improving at selling Marvel Universe books at least.
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>>78013908
>1st issue post-Secret Wars Bruno is dating some tumblr self-insert
And dropped. Let me now if she turns out to be some evil inhuman in disguise, like that Muslim dude who tried to seduce Kamala last series.
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>>78010202
It's sad how right they are about Marvel
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>>78014391
Yeah, just like the first one, but with a II at the end.
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>>78014449
Girl rejects him.

He gets a more gettable girl for his self esteem.

That's just being realistic.
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For any other reason then "Captain America Civil War hits theaters May 6th 2016", why would they make a sequel to Civil War?
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>>78014347
>#1 Guardians of the Galaxy vol 1 (doesn't say if this is Bendis' or Abnett's. I think it's the Bendis one)
It's Bendis. If it was DnA the cosmicfags would post that shit in every threat ever.
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>>78014401
Yeah, it's actually surprising. Usually though the reason a Marvel book charts high is because it's a debut volume, like the hardcover version of Fear Itself or something, and then it slides off the Top 10. I don't think I saw Fear Itself on the 2013 or 2014 charts in general, let alone top 10. Civil War somehow managing to stay on the top 10 is pretty surprising.
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>>78014533
There's still plenty of white heroes they can replace.

$10 on all the bad guys for this storyline being white.
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>>78014533
the Millar version still sells well so they'll do another one and see if it gets those sales.
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So they're making a storyline to profiteer on a movie that's based on an older storyline?

Woah
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>>78010145
There should be a panel for attempted pandering to a minority only for it to be ultra insulting instead.
We know he did it to Bobby but he did the same thing to FlashVenom in GotG a while back. The symbiote is apparently supposed to represent blackness because that isn't at all insulting to black people and doesn't come off as incredibly racist if you replace symbiote with whatever stand in word you wish to use for black people. Seriously. find the old previews summary for planet of the symbiotes.
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>>78014918
What are they going to fucking fight about this time?
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>>78015062
Old money vs young money.
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>>78013908
>Wilson is Team Bendis
At this point we will have to count the people who aren't Team Bendis.
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>>78013761
We all know it sells outstandingly, that's what I was saying. Marvel just keeps pushing it like how DC pushes Killing Joke and TDKR and All-Star Superman, except those are at least actually good.

It's quite literally a meme comic. Someone wants to get into Marvel comics, they see Civil War, they've HEARD of it before and it's a self-contained graphic novel. This is a recipe for a lot of fucking money, and most of these people being braindead turn around and tell everyone what a nerd they are for loving Civil War, causing the cycle to continue.

To be fair though, it is greatly enjoyed by the types of fans who will read or not read a book based solely on whether it "matters" or not.
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Somebody said that there's a bunch of images that hint at things to come in "Civil War II"? Other than Sam vs. Tony, I mean.
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>>78014449
>self-insert

Are you fucking joking? If anything Kamala is the self-insert. That girl is pretty obviously a satire of Tumblr girls, and she's kekking the main character. She's like an anti-self-insert.
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>>78010145
>only one square for copy and pasted panels
Disappointing.
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This gonna be shit right?

Secret Wars Civil War had such amazing concept and with exception of the whole Skrulls storyline it was really great to see Civil War

Now this? This gonna be shit and simple put together because of the damn book.
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>>78010202
What's /pol/ about it? I can already see cringe-inducing Trump references coming from the master hacksmith himself.
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So uh.

What corner is Spider-Man gonna be written into this time?
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>>78010145
>“The original CIVIL WAR is one of the most important Marvel comics ever,

God, that's sad.
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>>78010393
Hickman's taking a shit on Marvel's plans.
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>>78016270
Peter will be with Iron Man, Miles will be with Sam, and Miles will beat Peter.
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>>78010828
>it took you this long

They've been consistently shit since the first Civil War and you stuck around - why?
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>>78013493
>He' the future Editor-in-Chief of Marvel, and the other writers at marvel know it.
God, I hope he dies, or goes into a coma, or anything, just stop him from writing/working at Marvel, please.
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>>78013908
Willow is a terrible writer
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>>78016389
>and Miles will beat Peter
Oh god. Miles becomes the bull to Peter's cückold.
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>>78016389
Why will Peter care this time? It's not like he has to live in USA anymore. It's not like he can't take all his loved ones out of USA to any country they want.
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>>78010612
That's not Secret Wars III faggot.

Hickman's Secret War is Secret War FIVE.

Secret Wars 3 was an Englehart Fantastic Four storyline that wrote Beyonder out of continuity by way of having him merge with Molecule Man and the retcon that the Beyonder was a baby Cosmic Cube.

Secret War 4 was Bendis's vanity project from around 2004 that wrote Nick Fury out of continuity until Secret Invasion.

Fury and a bunch of heroes tried to kill the democratically elected government of Doom's homeland that took over after Doom got banished to hell, when it got leaked that the new regime was a bunch of arms merchants who were behind the Mad Tinkerer (who supplies tech to all of the villains) on the downlow and failed. The whole coup failed miserably and the new President is retaliating and tries to murder Fury's group of heroes with a legion of knock-off villains pretending to be existing big bads, which included rip-offs of Diamondback, Jack O'Lantern, and Hobgoblin that were pretending to be Rachel, Jason Macendale, and Roderick Kingsley.
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>>78016068
>satire
Yeah, right.
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>>78010202
That's a bad thing?
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>>78016491
>Secret War 4 was Bendis's vanity project from around 2004 that wrote Nick Fury out of continuity until Secret Invasion.
This is Secret WAR. Not Secret WarS. It's different.
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>>78016212
complaining about Jews

seriously, why does /pol/ even read comics? the American comics industry was created by Jews!
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>>78011119
But that page was funny
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>>78016479
Because Bendis wills it
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>>78016491
>which included rip-offs of Diamondback, Jack O'Lantern, and Hobgoblin that were pretending to be Rachel, Jason Macendale, and Roderick Kingsley.

Really? Or is that just the retcon to explain Bendis's attempted use of Rachel, Macendale, and Kingsley?
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>>78013493
Disney will NEVER FUCKING LET BENDIS BE EiC. NEVER.

Between the bullshit he pulled with Heinberg (who is higher up the food chain of importance, in terms of people Disney would gladly suck the dick off to keep them involved with Disney and it's various companies, his bullshit with the movies that led to Disney letting Feig banish Bendis and co from having ANY further say in how the movies are put together, AND the fact that he couldn't fucking make Iron Man a huge fucking seller?

NEVER FUCKING EVER will he be made EiC.

Hell, the fucker will probably run to DC like a coward the moment he realizes he's fucked and will never be EiC at Marvel.
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>>78016518
Marvel considers it SW4 as seen with it's inclusion in the huge SW box set.
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>>78016539
Did you think the dialogue in the ninja fight scene from the latest issue of IIM was funny as well?
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>>78016597
Never stop dreaming anon.
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>>78016597
This.

Pissing off Allan Heinberg basically killed Bendis of ever getting in a position of power at Marvel. Disney has long memories and Heinberg has produced SEVERAL highly profitable TV shows for Disney that made more money than Bendis ever could make.

The recent shit with the TV folks getting banned from working on the movies will seal his fate, if the Heinberg debacle didn't already render Bendis doomed to never get promoted
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Can we go one fucking year without some stupid event?
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>>78016727
Only if we got a non-stupid event.

In other words, no.
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>>78016727
No. Marvel makes sales by doing events and then resetting everything. Every year, like clockwork.
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>>78016597
>>78016703
samefag
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There's no time to even let the single books grow because they're always interrupted by some bullshit event

Hell it's what killed the Ultimate universe and Miles, every time you the ongoing would get comfortable, time for some dumb event to ruin everything!
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>>78016727

If you want less big game changing events start reading DC. Mavel announces them before they even get off the ground. At least DC usually just does small scale ones with a big event only happening every three or so years.
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>>78016597
I don't follow much, but what did Bendis do to piss of Heinberg? Was it Children's Crusade stuff?
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Civil War discussion? Let's be civil about this!
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>>78016956
kill yourself
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>>78016855

Bendis' shit pacing and the constant events really ruined USM for me.
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>>78016885
DC events are just as annoying. It pissed me off to no end when that H'el on Earth bullshit split up Supergirl's story line across several comics that I had no interest in.
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>>78016727
Secret Wars is selling like 150k+ an issue or something.

Why would Marvel stop doing that?
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>>78016727
No. Marvel keeps doing them every year because they sell tons. The more events the better.

At least DC has tried having their big events with close to a year in between them.
If SW comes out on schedule then there will be like four months between SW and Civil War II.
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>>78016527
Your retarded mate. It's another Bendisism where he puts in Jewish stuff to point out how the character is Jewish.
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>Secret Wars 2
>Civil War 2 right after

I fully expect Infinity War 2 to start in 2017 to coincide with the shitty movies. Bravo Walt, you did it.
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>>78017205

DC only does a huge one every few years, with minor ones once a year. Most of the time they're just oneshots and the series itself too or they disrupt a single book or set of books.

Like Robin War is disrupting the assorted Robin books right now but everything else is untouched compared to Civil War II where we already know everything is going to get fucked over in a few months.

If this effects Vision I'm going to be so pissed off. I wanted to pick up a few other ANAD titles but the constant status quo restarts is too much of a turn off for me.
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Typical anti-Bendis brigade. You guys are the worst of the worst. Always crying because Marvels best writer is reinvigorating comics with his top selling stories. I bet you guys are the same idiots crying about the X-men too. Well too bad, his X-men run is highly praised everywhere else like reddit, and will go down as one of the best. Issue 600 took old and boring characters and reinvigorated them into a new progressive age. You guys need to catch up instead of staying stuck in the past.

And there is nothing you can do to stop the Bendis train, lol.
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>>78017560

Bendis? Bendis... The writer?
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>>78017560
Bendis? What does he write?
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>CIVIL WAR is one of the most important Marvel comics ever

jesus christ does anyone actually think this?
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>>78017649
NuMarvel does.
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>>78017560
Why can't Bendis fight his own battles. Sending his dog to fight for him instead, from behind no less.
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>>78017649

Isn't it sad?

I was thinking today what comics are going to be celebrated in 30 years the way TDKR, or the Killing Joke and the like are today and it's sad to know Civil War is probably one of them. Casual fans eat it up.
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>>78017550
>Like Robin War is disrupting the assorted Robin books right now but everything else is untouched compared to Civil War II
That's cause Robin War is a crossover, not a full blown event. Forever Evil is the only "real" event DC's had since Flashpoint. i.e. It's own miniseries, tie ins interrupting books, original tie ins, actual consequences, possible books leading up to it, etc
Robin War is more like the X Men crossover they just announced or Black Vortex.
And even then DC has cut down on the crossovers. Even Truth over in the Superman line is just a shared status quo. Those books used to have a crossover interrupting every storyline of Supergirl's. And Endgame had oneshots instead of interrupting shit.
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>>78017730
>I forgot Convergence again

But does anyone truly care or want to remember
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>>78017649
Yes. Everyone outside of the internet thinks it. This, Secret Wars I and Infinity Gauntlet are the only events casuals know.
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>>78017649
Isn't Civil War one of their best selling trades? Because of course Marvel would try to make it seem more important if it already still sells well.
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>>78017759
Casuals don't know Infinity Gauntlet.
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>>78017718
No it won't be. Marvel is the only one pushing its praise, pretty much every outlet treats it either as bad or medicore.
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>>78017847

They do now because of the movies.

They'll only be able to tell you "Thanos is in it"
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Okay, so, I haven't been paying too much attention to the internet for the couple of days but, didn't they just restart the universe? Isn't a little soon for fucking Civil War?
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>>78017560
I don't get the picture
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>>78017847
>Casuals don't know what the entire MCU is leading to
Yes they do. Like everything else, they haven't read it, but they know what it is.
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>>78017871

Civil War has been one of Marvel's best selling trades since it was first collected though... Someone has to like it.
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>>78017902
They did, but the movie's coming out and they gotta get on that.
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>>78017902
Marvel has been pushing event after event after event for years now. They usually have two somehow in the same year now, not including crossovers.
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>>78017916

Popularity =/= quality. It's a casual friendly event because if you don't know anything about the characters it's not the character assassination everyone else sees it as. And casuals like heroes vs. heroes, which is also why Secret Wars is the only other popular event from Marvel.
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>>78017902

They didn't restart it they essentially just renumbered everything back to issue 1 and created a new status quo where multiple earths are aligned on a new world with a few soft retcons like DC's original Crisis.

It's just par for the course at this point. Events are killing Marvel's quality.
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>>78017871
Not really. Everyone outside the internet loves it.
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>>78010145
>>>mfw when one the most important comics ever
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>>78016985
It looks like you're at war with civility.
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Marvel has a movie coming out soon called Civil War. So it's the best time to start another one up in the comics since 'Civil War' will be on everyone's mind. And while the original war had problems it was still a fun read. I'm looking forward to this event.
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I love how they say the universe will never be the same when it's barely even stable at this point.
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>>78016068
Kamala IS a self-insert but not of the writer, of the editor. Now if we see some doofy white girl spouting shit about how Islam is totally compatible with all the values of SJWism, then yeah that'd be a self-insert.
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>>78016527
You retard, Bendis likes to constnatly put Jewish slang into the book, likes to use Jew characters because they're Jews (Kitty, Thing) and in general can't go more than 5 seconds without reminding you either on social media, in interviews or via his comics that he's Jewish.
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The moment I suck up another Bendis appearance he manages to pop out again out of nowhere.

Make it stop

I can't go on
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>>78010765
>The Ultimates hold a place in essential stories
>killed their universe anyway

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>78017550
Don't worry, Vision's going to be cancelled before this starts.
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>>78010543
This.

Civil War II should be the last event comic written by Bendis.

>>78016047
>implying Avengers Standoff may end with deep cracks with the members' relationships with each other
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>>78010543
Not an event but don't forget
>GotG

It was smelling of "like the movies" from the very first issue.
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I've had arguments with girls in high school as to whether or not Civil War was a 4 or 7 issue miniseries, regardless of its quality its easily the most mainstream Marvel event. It might be the most mainstream event period.
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>>78019257
Most mainstream event was investing in the spice trade.
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>>78017649
>>78017785
see
>>78013761
>>78014024
>>78014347
The TPB of Civil War has been a consistent top 10 seller for Marvel for years now, and not just in comic shops but outside to casual buyers at bookstores. Compare that to other collected events that manage to get on the top 10 list (only because it's a new book that year) and then slide off the Top 10 (AvX, Age of Ultron--though that one might get a boost this year because of the movie sharing the same title), or worse, don't sell enough outside of comic shops to even show up on the chart the next year (Siege, Fear Itself).
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>>78016527
Bendis DOES do that, if anything I'd imagine the /pol/ part would be Evil Straight White Men.
Everything else is a legitimate and most likely spot on complaint.
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>>78010287
People talk about Dobson and Chris-Chan but they sure as fuck don't like them.
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>Also, after reading this article, I have to say, the guy made some good points. then again, I'm one of the few people who isn't rage hating against this event.
>Count me in as one of the few. But then, I'm a big Bendis fan.
Well, it's my fault going to CBR this early in the morning.
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>>78016462
You just hate ragheads, anon.
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>>78014482
Is that what they can do? Just add II at the end and call it a day?
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>>78019642

Civil War is basically Batman: Hush of Marvel. Absolute shit but casual drink it up like it's kool-aid.
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>>78017649
It's important just because it set the tone and setting for Marvel for the past 10 years.

If someone asks me where to start with Marvel, I recommend them to pick their favorite character and start a run, to read Planet Hulk or to read Civil War and find out what characters are interesting from that. For a long time you needed to have read Civil War to get a good introduction, as almost every fucking body appeared in CW.

If someone had to read one event to be up to date, what else would you suggest? Fucking Fear Itself?
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Bendis is the writher? Bendis?
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>>78011592
BUILD SUPER WALL
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>>78010145
>>78010398
heroes vs heroes events need to stop.
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>>78010145

Yay! Even more hamfisted writing.

The sad thing is that Civil War could actually have been good.

Superhero accountability, that is rarely looked at and is a problem where multiple sides can look at the situation and come to different but sane and rational conclusions.

Or you could just write one side as having extradimensional gulags and the Starkjugend.
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>>78013627
Atleast Miller isn't writing it.
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>>78016597
>Bendis at DC

Sweet Jesus that's worse than nuclear war
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>>78019909
To be fair, almost every other person on that thread is calling it shit cause of Bendis
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>>78010977
tl;dr You're a faggot
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>>78023479
Man, I love how the Bendis pasta always manages to trigger you kids. It's precious.
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>>78023374
He tapped that, though, during time he was starting writing Ultimate Spider-Man or something.
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>>78010145
Wait... what? Civil War was considered a flop for marvel. The fuck are they doing?!
>>
Marvel has an awful tendency of ruining their own universe because of movie tie ins. Back In Black for Spider-man 3, Thanos returning because of Guardians, I used to have more examples but those are the worst offenders.

I'm just terrified that now that Bendis lost his Ultimate Marvel sandbox he is going to bring that shit to mainstream Marvel.
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>>78023737
Thanos was going to come back eventually movie or not movie. Marvel never planned Thanos Imperative to be his end, mainly because nobody at Marvel's offices read it or knows it exists.
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>>78023756
True, of course. but did you read the Avengers book he returned in? Terrible, rushed garbage that shat on the amazing ending and sacrifice of Star Lord and Nova.

I think that any forced storyline can be okay given good writing, but the tie ins are generally phoned in.
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>>78023737
Inhumans becoming mutants.
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>>78023737
>mfw Ultimate Universe II is created to contain Bendis.
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>>78023824
>Bendis can write it all
>everybody is black, jewish, or both
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>>78024795
>he can write street level heroes as well!
>except Moon Knight
>he knows Tony's voice!
>Victor Von Doom? Victor Von Doom.
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>>78010145
>The original CIVIL WAR is one of the most important Marvel comics ever

is this true? remember that important doesn't mean good.
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>>78024836
Wasn't it all retconned away a few years after the event?
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>>78024836
Yes it's true
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>>78025469
Well, consequences were Iron Man leading SHIELD, Initiative and Avengers Academy. Iron Man isn't in SHIELD anymore, Initiative was Skrull plan all along and kids from Avengers Academy are killed/in limbo.
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>>78025469
Is there an event that wasn't retconned by the next one?
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Wait, wasn't Peter's involvement in Civil War erased by OMD? So will he even remember Civil War? Will this undo OMD?
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>>78027833
>Wait, wasn't Peter's involvement in Civil War erased by OMD?
No. The only things actually retconned by OMD itself is that MJ and Peter were never married and were just in a serious relationship all that time, and Harry and Aunt May didn't die.

Peter still revealed his identity during Civil War, but Reed + Strange + Tony cast a super-magical-tech-science spell that erased everyone's memory of Spider-man's identity. Tony had done the same thing back in the 80s so it's not like the tech for it didn't already exist.
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>>78024836
>is this true?
Yes, it is.

>Remember that important doesn't mean good.

This is also true about it, too.
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>>78010145
>The original CIVIL WAR is one of the most important Marvel comics ever, and we are all very excited to have come up with what we hope is a story worthy of the title

I...what? Did I end up in a parallel universe somehow?
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>>78014449
>Bruno is no longer the love interest, gets a send-off issue with a nice girl
>GODDAMN TUMBLR SELF-INSERT SJW KEKS SMHTBHFAM

I just rolled my eyes so hard I detached a retina. That's on you.
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"No one is safe"

From Bendis, those are terrifying words.
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>>78032423
is Bendis safe?
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>>78032161
Important != good

Important != lasting consequences. There are virtually no lasting consequences in comics.
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>>78010398
It's not Hero versus Hero that hit this thing made, it was
>Secret Wars 3 "proving" company wide crossovers make MARVEL bank
>MCU is doing it too so comics become easier for normies to notice then purchase because it has the same name
Profit over plot.
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>>78010649
>not wrong
>civil war
>important
I liked the Civil War status quo but your kidding yourself if you think it mattered at all after 2010
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What will this even be about lmao
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>>78010828
See, I was considering coming back for Vision and Daredevil, but now? Nah, man. I'll just wait for Vision to get cancelled and then collected in a trade. As for Daredevil? Sorry, Matt, but I got convictions to stick to, man. If you were real I'm sure you'd understand.
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>>78016727
We already did. It was during the Heroic Age. DC outsold Marvel.
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>>78011030
>I think that's the one where Spider-man taught Beyonder to poop
Spidey taught Beyonder to pee not poop
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>>78032423
>No one is safe
Does anyone really believe this?
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>>78034318
Heroes fighting heroes
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>>78013034
>obviously
Nu-uh. I took it as
>Ben Grimm is so old he doesn't get feminism and secretly verbally talks D I enjoy to women, GET WITH THE TIMES GRIMM hurp derp
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>>78032563
The only constant still around in comics is **Uncle Ben is still dead**
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>>78034704
Well the character Bendis don`t like aren`t safe
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>>78017070
Artistic... integrity?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>78032423
Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Colossus and Scarlet Witch aren't safe.

Also Dick Ri...Oh wait, he's already dead.
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>>78036358
So Pym and Wanda are dead, especially since Waid's making Pym a villain in ANADvengers.
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>>78037121
>Making Pym a villain
FUCK MARVEL
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>>78037121
Actually only the characters that he likes are safe
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>>78037483
You know there'll be a Lang vs. Pym fight in CW mk. 2 and it'll end in a slap or Ultimate reference because that's all Bendis recognizes and simultaneously gotta push that legacy nobody really cared about prior to the movie
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>>78010145

>Civil War 2

So a movie that got hype from a terrible event will help hype another terrible event

I have no idea how anybody can read Marvel
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>>78027974
>The deal with the devil didn't even directly retcon his identity
>they had to use ANOTHER absolutely bullshit bit of retconning power to do it
I will never not be mad at the sheer stupidity of OMD. I'm not even a big Peter/MJ fag. The maddening ridiculousness of OMD is enough.
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>>78038531
If the deal had retcon the unmasking it would have erased the second part of Civil War and leave the whole Marvel Universe with plenty of plotholes.
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>>78010145

jesus christ marvel, would you please stop being such a piece of shit. Are they going to kill captain america again? kek
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>>78011716

Hasn't image made a reb00t with invincible? How is that any diferent?
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>>78034603

Shit, are you me?
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