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CIVIL WAR

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Several tidbits were revealed over these past few days.

>The Sokovia Accords are created by Secretary of State Thaddeus Ross to legislate superhero activity and turn the Avengers into weapons.

>T'Challa is contributing with the Accords because Ultron used Vibranium to nearly destroy the world and his father wants to avoid political tensions between Wakanda and the United Nations over their Vibranium reserves.

>Bucky is framed for a bombing in the United Nations' headquarters.

>Captain America collaborates with the Accords at first to capture Bucky for interrogation, but upon learning the military have been ordered to kill him, Captain America and Falcon help Bucky escape and are then detained by Ross, have their weapons aprehended and are to be prosecuted, which causes them to go rogue.

>Iron Man feels betrayed because Captain America sacrifices their perceived friendship in favor of helping Bucky, a wanted criminal and a dangerous assassin.

>Bucky's mind is still fracture and, although he has regained some of his memories, he has not entirely overcome Hydra's conditioning nor fully regained his original personality.

>Black Panther joins Iron Man's team at first because he wants to capture Bucky, but is neutral on the political conflict between Captain America and Iron Man, coming into conflict with both, in addition to respecting Captain America's conviction to his ideals. His suit is made of a Vibranium mesh.

>Black Widow decides to support the Registration because she believes it's necessary for the Avengers to continue effectively protecting the world. She is Iron Man's second-in-command and, although she agrees with her viewpoints, she is divided between him and Captain America. She also won't be mourning Bruce Banner's departure.

>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far, and also doesn't have romantic subplots.
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>>78008415
>>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far
lol.
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>>78008415
>also doesn't have romantic subplots.
So no Agent 13? Interesting. I was thinking they'd do romance like they did in Ant-Man, with just a brush off almost throw away scene at the end with no ramifications throughout the movie.

This is even better.
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>>78008415
>created by Secretary of State Thaddeus Ross
>not created by Secretary of State Thaddeus Thunderbolt Ross
It should be his middle name.
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>>78008456


>Marvel Studios most serious movie

Remember when they said the same for age of omelette? Or Thor? Or iron man 3?
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>>78008499
She's in, OP's probably wrong.
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>>78008415
I don't care for this movie. Give me the bat of gothan vs the man of steel.
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>>78008415
>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far

there have been 13 movies now

these words mean nothing
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>Baron Zemo is different from the comics. He won't have his trademark uniform, "Baron Zemo" is only one of his many names, and he is in an unexpected position in the movie, and might become a recurring character in Phase 3.

>Everett Ross is a cultural attaché in Wakanda and has a minor role in the movie.

>Spider-Man is a teenage crimefighter operating in New York City who is recruited by the Registration. He enters the narrative halfway through.

>Spider-Man and Ant-Man are the pontual comic relief characters.

>Scarlet Witch is a "wildcard" in the conflict due to her tortured mind and expanding powers.

>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love".

>Falcon supports Bucky due to his friendship with Captain America and attempts to help him regain his memories and prove his innocence.

>The "Splash Page" fight in an airport includes Iron Man VS. Captain America, Black Panther VS. Winter Soldier, Black Widow VS. Ant-Man and Falcon VS. War Machine, among others.

>The movie is centered in Captain America and, although it's have ramifications in future movies, it does not set them up and is a self-contained story.
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>Bucky this
>Bucky that

They should have just named it something else. Not civil war.
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>>78008415
>She also won't be mourning Bruce Banner's departure.
So she truly is a huge slut? I hope she fucks Black Panther next cause that would be hilarious.
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>>78008415
Looking forward to black panther and more ant man.
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>>78008499
>>78008517
She's in, but there won't be an actual romantic subplot, it'll probably just be mild flirtation and sexual tension, like Cap/Widow in TWS.
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>>78008560
>>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love".
>>78008415
>>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far, and also doesn't have romantic subplots.

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>>78008560
I like this poster
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>>78008508
>Have an old Marvel character guidebook
>It refers to him only as Thunderbolt Ross.

I spend most of my young life believing it was legitimate first name. You can't imagine mcfw I learned he has a lame-o name like "Thaddeus".
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>>78008522
Here you go
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>>78008560
>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love"
>>78008415
>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far, and also doesn't have romantic subplots.
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>>78008560
>Spiderman now comic relief

No thanks
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>>78008568
Crying about him wouldn't really fit her character. Especially since in the deleted scenes from "Age of Ultron" it's clear she doesn't actually care about Bruce, only the idea of him.
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>>78008560
>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love"
>>78008415 (OP)
>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far, and also doesn't have romantic subplots.
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>>78008415
Are they seriously doing this?
they're seriously taking the worst, least-well-received storyline in comics history and making it the basis of their next movie?
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM FIGHTING EACH OTHER OVER IDEOLOGIES
WE WANT THEM TO PUNCH MONSTERS
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>>78008560
A recurring villain?

Finally.
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>>78008599
There's a whole bunch of "Love", bro, not only romantic love.
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>>78008654
Who's "we" buddy?
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>>78008634
You are telling me that Spider-Man wasn't a comic relief before?
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>>78008415
>>Black Widow decides to support the Registration because she believes it's necessary for the Avengers to continue effectively protecting the world. She is Iron Man's second-in-command and, although she agrees with her viewpoints, she is divided between him and Captain America. She also won't be mourning Bruce Banner's departure.

So Black Widow's joining Hellcat in the "Captain Marvel's not here yet" club.
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>>78008560
pontual?
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Who thought making this movie was a good idea?

Nothing here says Civil War.

Truly 2016's fantastic four
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>>78008678
They provide comic relief only in small doses, they won't be a gag-a-minute every time they're on screen.
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>>78008415
>>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far

>Muh Bucky dindu nuffin
>He's my husbando
>So was I

>SERIOUS
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>>78008516
>>78008705
Don't you have more BvS threads to make?
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>>78008670
Well not to updoot my own horn but I have an intellect far beyond yours and the average comic reader. I feel as though my interpretation of a story and the repercussions give me a fairly objective view of how well it written and executed. As such I am on of the few here whom can speak for the majority of /co/ users.
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>>78008560
What if Zemo only appears as Citizen V?
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>>78008745
*tips fedora*
astounding bait m'sir
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>>78008415
Think Ross go Red Hulk in this?
I just want that
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>>78008810
Directors confirmed he won't.
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>>78008560

How can it be self contained and have ramifications on future movies?

That doesn't make sense. Especially if it sets up Zemo as a recurring villain AND Black Panther as a recurring new hero.
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>>78009005
The story doesn't leave loose ends for future installments other than these characters exist and don't die.

And then Cap dies/is jailed, and the MCU is left without its paragon of virtue.
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>>78009005
>How can it be self contained and have ramifications on future movies?

I dunno man, maybe like how Ultron was defeated but this movie still results from what happened during that battle
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>>78008745
I remember you, you shitposted on /vg/ a couple of months ago
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>>78008840
Lame
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>>78008415
Seems like too much plot to cram into a single film.
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>>78008746
He's going to be a man in a suit.
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>>78009165
Not really. Progression is everything.

Look at "The Dark Knight", for example. On written form, that movie is ladden with multiple interlocked subplots and seems crowded as fuck, but Nolan pulled it off.
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>>78008745
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>>78008641
It's just funny that she's tried to fuck like 4 Avengers now. I guess technically she's a tease.
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>>78009277

come on, anon. You know what she is
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>>78008634
>implying Spider-man has ever NOT been comic relief
>not even knowing how to spell his name
Let me guess, once the movie comes out you'll start calling him Spider-quips or Quip-man? Because god forbid SPIDER-MAN quips.
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>>78008710
Up to this point, Winter Soldier was the most serious movie and it wasn't THAT serious of a movie. So yeah, it's not like making this the most serious in a series of a light-hearted action comedies is some difficult task.
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>>78008415
>She also won't be mourning Bruce Banner's departure.

Good. This was the shittest part of Avengers 2
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>>78008499
Contradicts what Paul Bettany has said.
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>>78008745
>give me a fairly objective view of how well it written and executed
>objective
>view
Die.
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>>78008560
>mfw Zemo gets away and during Phase 3 builds up the Masters of Evil to fight the Avengers as part of Thanos' army during Infinity War Part 1
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>>78008536
Cap's movies are the most serious. The quips are more like actual soldier dialogue and humor as opposed to jokes (soldiers being straight-faced 24/7 is nothing but Hollywood bullshit, even men with their guts hanging out try and make a joke if they get a chance).
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>>78009598
Yeah, but Vision can be in love with Wanda as a side conflict. Cap would detract from the main story.
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>>78008499
>I was thinking they'd do romance like they did in Ant-Man, with just a brush off almost throw away scene at the end with no ramifications throughout the movie.

But that awful. The movie would've been better if they had removed those scenes and had no romantic subplot at all.
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>>78009641
>Abomination
>Some other guys

Yes please.
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>>78009483
>defending Spider-Meme
>in 2015

Sadly, there will be people who actually believe he shouldn't quip.
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>>78009944
Nah, if you want Ant-Man and Wasp, that's the way to do it.

They only mentioned the romance as a 'btw, they are kind of together now' at the very end, everything else was just generic sexual tension, like Thor with his shirt off.

They spent no more than they had to and it detracted nothing from the story. There was no 'subplot' there was a scene and a couple glares, total 30 seconds of footage if anything.
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>>78010051
>Nah, if you want Ant-Man and Wasp, that's the way to do it.

They could've waited until that movie to actually develop it.

Not every Marvel movie needs a romantic subplot.
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>>78009985
>Abomination
>And, uhhh...
>Abomination
>Justin Hammer?
>And Abomination
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>>78009121
>Ultron was defeated but this movie still results from what happened during that battle

"Sokovia Accords" is a misnomer, the registration act in Civil War comes about because of an entirely unrelated superheroes-fucking-up mass destruction incident in Africa. (Also unrelated to the superheroes-fucking-up mass destruction incident in Africa depicted in Avengers 2.)
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>>78009944

They didn't really have a romantic subplot though. Hope and Scott act like normal people together for the entire movie and then it ends with them kissing as more of a joke.

>>78009641

What good is he if he's not wearing a purple sock on his head?
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>>78010140
>There was no 'subplot' there was a scene and a couple glares, total 30 seconds of footage if anything.

You are aware this minimizes romance 'plot' overall, right? They skip the boring dating and bitching around during the break between movies, and they are already a couple by the second one.

Sure, it would've been cleaner if there was nothing now, but then the second one would have to be all about it. Are you opposed to vaccinations? Can't you endure a little bit of something you don't like in order to avoid a bunch of it later?
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Hyped for Zemo.
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Cast your votes

>>78010330
>>78010330
>>78010330
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Will we finally get good action sequences?
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>>78008560
>Black Widow VS. Ant-Man
Tumblr is going to be so mad if BW doesn't win.
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>>78011838
>Natasha Alianovna Romanoff is a world-famous assassin, founding Avenger and all-round boss bitch. She would not EVER lose to some deadbeat white boy who stole all his powers!
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>>78011838
It's already been reported that age trashes him.
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>>78008560
>le based russos
>embarrassed of Zemo
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>>78008560
A possibility is that one of Zemo's aliases is a Sokovian activist known as, let's say, "Citizen V".
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>>78010200
And Klaw I guess. How about instead of Justin Hammer we get Sasha Hammer so we get a lady villain that isn't Nebula?
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>>78008568
All that screentime wasted in AoU amounts to nought.
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>>78008657
I think Vision's relationship with Wanda is a deepening friendship at this stage.

I think the Mind Gem does something that makes him need to learn more about it (thus leaving Earth), while Wanda realizes she needs to learn more about her powers (cue Doctor Strange sending her a tarot card or something).

I'm a massive Steve/Wanda fag so hoping for some good "I believe in you" moments to hit the feels.
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>>78010200
I miss Justin Hammer.
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>>78011968
Then Hank Pym appears and punches BW hard in the face then kicks her in the tits.
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>>78008560
>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love".
Vision confirmed for fucking Wanda
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>>78009641
But why would Thanos need an army with the Infinity Gauntlet? I just KNOW they're gonna do some gay shit like that instead of him just obliterating almost everything immediately.
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>>78011923
>Natasha Romanoff
>Founding Avenger

This triggers me so much.
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>>78017035
When talking about the MCU, she is.
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>>78016797
Because a villain without minions is boring for a team movie.
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>>78019148
It's also boring that the Avengers will be fighting mooks AGAIN. It's time for a change of pace.
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fuck, this movie sounds dog shit awful.

are they fighting each other because they cant get a fucking villain worth a shit on the big screen?
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No Hulk? why?
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>>78019148
You are everything that's wrong with capeshit. I mean it.
God have mercy on your soul.
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>>78019711
He's gonna be in Ragnarok with Thor. That is a fact. Look it up.
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>>78019324
>A team of supervillains
>mooks
lol shut up, man
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>>78016797
There's a difference between having an army and having a team of supervillains as a strike team to do your dirty work
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>>78011968
I hope Clint bops her directly afterwards.
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>>78008560
>>Baron Zemo is different from the comics. He won't have his trademark uniform, "Baron Zemo" is only one of his many names, and he is in an unexpected position in the movie, and might become a recurring character in Phase 3.

/trash/
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>>78008560
>>The movie is centered in Captain America and, although it's have ramifications in future movies, it does not set them up and is a self-contained story.

Cap confirmed to still be alive and the Avengers to be buddies at the end of the movie. Film is spoiled
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>>78011983

They were embarrassed of all the villians except Winter Soldier. Batroc and Crossbones were completely unrecognizable
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>>78016797

>Still thinking the Infinity Gauntlet is going to be anywhere near as powerful as it's comic self

Come on lad
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>>78010200
>Abomination
>Justin Hammer
>Klaw
>Zemo
>Mordo if he doesn't die in Doctor Strange
>Ant-Man or Carol related villain
>Spidey related villain
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>>78019971
thats terrible, the thor movies are boring as fuck.
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>>78020169
>Batroc and Crossbones were completely unrecognizable
Batroc was awesome and fit in with the movie and Rumlow wasn't Crossbones yet but he is in this movie
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>>78020066
Dude
The Infinity Gauntlet makes him omnipotent. He doesn't fucking require mooks. Plus he went....
>Fine, I'll do it myself.
In the post credits scene in Age of Ultron.
Didn't he snap his fingers and kill half of eveything in the universe when he assembled the gauntlet in the comics. Obviously, they aren't gonna do that in the movies, but it should be
>Thanos vs Everyone
Instead of
>Thanos (and paper mache fodder) vs Everyone
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>>78010200
>>78020200
>people forgetting about Red Skull in another dimension
I have a hunch, just a hunch, that Baron Zemo might be a descendant of Red Skull or Red himself
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>>78020217

This one is going to be a wacky comedy though with lots of quips!
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>>78020184
>totally missing the point
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>>78020232
>mooks
there's that word again. Also you're assuming that he'll have the gauntlet completed at the beginning of Infinity War I highly doubt that's the case. Pretty sure the first part of Infinity War will be him gathering the gems which the Masters of Evil can help with. I don't see why you're against the Masters of Evil being involved.
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>>78020254
>>78020217
I just hope they use this movie to finally display Thor's and Hulk's TRUE power. None of that jobbing to VERONICA shit.
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>>78020238
>that Baron Zemo might be a descendant of Red Skull
This is more likely. I'm still banking on Red Skull being an advisor to Thanos and Zemo is his contact on Earth doing his bidding. \
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>>78020269
I was thinking about the Part 2. Assuming he actually does gather all the gems. I have more faith in them than that though..
Honestly, after Thanos assembles the gauntlet, what do you think should happen? The Avengers will fight off lesser villains (Loki,Chitauri) whilst Thanos fights the more important members?
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>>78020305
I think so too
they're nearing infinity war and so we should get more cosmic related things
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>>78020269
>Also you're assuming that he'll have the gauntlet completed at the beginning of Infinity War I highly doubt that's the case

Why do so many people think this? Is there a secret after credit scene i asn't aware of where Thanos rips the mind gem out of Visions fucking head? Part 1 will end with Thanos wielding the full gauntlet. It's painfully obvious
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>>78008516
>>78008734
>had to check the URL to make sure we weren't on /tv/

Wew lad
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>>78020254
Taika Waititi isn't really a "quippy" writer, at least not in the action movie quip style
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>>78020338
>The Avengers will fight off lesser villains (Loki,Chitauri) whilst Thanos fights the more important members?
Basically this. Maybe avoiding Avengers Vs. Chitauri because enough people complained about huge faceless armies vs superheroes. But I could see Chitauri with supervillains as generals and Thanos commanding everything. The Avengers and GotG splitting into teams to deal with individual squadrons of villains. Eventually people go fight Thanos. Team goes to face Thanos. I'm thinking a team of Cap, Tony, Thor, Hulk, Star-Lord, Drax, Rocket, someone else. Everyone else is still fighting Chitauri. Some heroes are kill.
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>>78020487
What if they do the guys from the Infinity event from a couple years ago.

Ebony Maw and those clowns.
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>>78020487
I was being sarcastic. That would be terribad. Point is, Thanos doesn't (shouldn't) rely on anyone with the Gauntlet. It's like Exodia from Yu Gi Oh. Once he has the gauntlet, its fucking over man.
But, of course, this being a movie means you will actually be proven right.
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>>78008675
What?
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>>78008840
Did they? Not that I thought Rulk had a chance of being in this, but I'm interested to hear what they had to say
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>>78011228
>finally

WS had the best action scenes in the whole MCU
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>>78008415
>also doesn't have romantic subplots
>only because the main plot is a love triangle between Cap, Tony and Bucky
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>>78020801
>terribad
You're a faggot

But yeah once he gets the gauntlet I guess it "doesn't matter". The movie will end and everyone will die and be defeated just like the comics when he got all the gems in the gauntlet. Oh wait...
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>>78020052
Come on, you know they'll end up being cannon fodder tier. There's only so much screentime within 2 hours or so, they gotta save the good stuff for the big fight with Thanos.
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>>78021147
Yeah they're going to save all the action for one big action scene with Thanos in a nearly billion dollar production.
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>Falcon vs War Machine

How badly is WM going to job here? Falcon is a literal human flying around with some half-baked wings against a robot killing machine suit.
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>>78021472
Falcon will just throw Scott at him
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>>78008560
>Iconic based super villain Zemo with his god tier uniform
>Instead of making him like the comics, make him ANOTHER evil businessman/politician

Holy fucking shit Marvel, cut it the fuck out. I am officially done with this garbage. Have him in the fucking uniform, or don't fucking do it. And the first faggot who responds with "he'll wear the mask later" deserves to get buttfucked by a silverback gorilla.

$10 says it's another "haha we fooled you" like the fucking Mandarin and Martin Freeman's Zemo/The main villain. Fuck.
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>>78021551
>deserves to get buttfucked by a silverback gorilla
gorillas actually have extremely small penises
i know this because reasons
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>>78019476
>Captain America: The Serpent Society
>Captain America: Red Skull
>Captain America: Operation MODOK
>Captain America: The Red Guardian
>Captain America: ULTIMATUM

>Could also use Baron Blood, Master Man, Scourge of the Underworld, Hate Monger, Taskmaster

Fuck all this normie 'muh hero vs. hero' bullshit. Fuck the MCU.
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>>78021610
You want Infinity Wars pushed back to 2020?
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>>78021472
>some half-baked wings
We agree War Machine is slower and less maneuverable than Iron Man right?
Well the Falcon suit was designed for para rescue where you can't even use a parachute because of how fast you'll get shot down. Falcon does was pretty good evasive moves against an upgraded helicarrier and a quinjet.

Not every vs fight is two people walking up to each other and going worldstar with their powers/tech.
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>>78021551
Zemo got his face hideously burnt in comics.

They'll probably have that happen mid-movie and he starts wearing the grape balaclava afterwards
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>>78008560
Imagine if they did Zemo right.

>Zemo was a lowly HYDRA soldier in WW2
>Comes from a long line of proud barons, and was excommunicated when he joined HYDRA at a young age
>Fought Cap a few times in WW2 with the other mooks, and survived only due to his indomitable will. Even became heavily scared after hit with a grenade Cap threw.
>Became obsessed with being the Captain's better and becoming the new true name of the Zemo clan.
>When Red Skull died and HYDRA integrated itself with SHIELD, Zemo rose in the ranks and became one of HYDRA's ultimate generals, and used incredible tactics to keep HYDRA's antics hidden.
>Began training and using steroids constantly, and learned multiple forms of combat in order to match the Captain.
>Fears his eventual death and HYDRA's downfall, so convinced his inferiors to freeze him via Winter Soldier and take him out every few years to keep HYDRA's work going.
>Strucker takes over while Zemo is under, and due to his arrogance, decides his leadership is better.
>After the events of WS, Crossbones decides it's time for Zemo to return.
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>>78021630
I want standalone Cap movies by the Russos that don't fucking have Thanos sitting in a chair at the end of every goddamn movie.
I want an actual "Cap vs. Badguy" movie and not more hero vs. hero bullshit.
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>>78021689

That sounds awful, and would in no way fit with the MCU.
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>>78008456
>>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far
So what? 5 quips per scene maximum?
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>>78008415
>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far
>>78008560
>Spider-Man and Ant-Man are the pontual comic relief characters
>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love"
We still in quip-town and understanding-dem-references--ville.
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>>78021739
Hi Feige
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>>78021700
So Winter Soldier? The plots themselves in non-Avengers titled films are generally fairly standalone, the Thanos stuff are more like easter eggs.
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>>78021840
>Cap vs. His sidekick pal
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>>78009617
Are you autistic?
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>>78009985
>Zemo in CW
>Abomination still out there
>Claw in Black Panther
>Enchantress and Skurge introduced in Thor Ragnarok

Think about it.
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>>78008745
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>>78021739

You're right, it wouldn't fit into the MCU, because it shows character development and isn't another evil businessman.
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>>78008566

U mad that they aren't recreating that abomination of a storyline?
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>>78008415
>>78008560
I like those posters.
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>>78023583

I like you too anon
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>>78023850
P-Poster-senpai noticed me!

Uguu~
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>>78021778
>Only two characters are quipping there.
>Compare it to the last Avengers movie were everyone was quipping.
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>>78008634
>Spider-Man is a comic relief
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
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>>78008415
>>78008560
>Posters that aren't just photoshopped shots of the characters in weird poses
Not bad
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>>78020169
>Crossbones
He wasn't Crossbones yet. He is now.

Also Batroc was fucking great, what are you talking about?
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>>78021551
If he's a recurring villain, he may have the accident which made him wear the purple sock in this movie like how Klaww will get his claw hand cause Ultron sliced his arm off
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Maybe poster is inspired by this?
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>>78024405
wrong pic
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>>78021610
>Hate Monger
You think Hate Monger make a great Villain?
Think they could make any good kids toys out of him?
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I want them to introduce Mephisto so we can have a one shot where Martin Freeman has to entertain him until Dr. Strange arrives to save him.
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>>78020169
He wasn't unrecognizable but yea
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