>Post ideas, art, comics you've done
>Share your website/portfolio
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>Do some fanart for someone if you feel so inclined.
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Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Let’s start of the list with a useful guide for PANEL LAYOUT:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)
>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.
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Wise words from John Cleese:
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Comic Script: Plot to Outline
Hey webcomic topic here's a webcomic.
I didnt even plan this, it just suddenly occurred to me as the logical last step
once again apologies for how boring the inside of tomorrowyears temple is. My imagination for inanimate objects is shot.
Sorta depends how you wanna use it.
If, in your comic, it's a hard science, like: These components + this precisely resonant location + these exact words = magic. Then yeah, totally. Go into the math of magic.
But if it's a more "OoooOOOooo MAGIC!" sorta setting: keep it vague. The more mysterious magic is the more---well, "magical" it is.
I saved this from another thread for you guys <3
Awright, I'm at the office, ready to do the lewds I was requested yesterday.
There's a change programmed for today at work, so I'm not sure I will be drawing much if people come to the office today, I'll try to make the most of it.
Also, the proxy at work might limit me from getting references, so I may end up asking for references here.
Who else asked me for some? I think one was Ennui Go for sure, can't remember if someone else enlisted.
Finished inking this from the last thread. I'm nervous to color it but whatever.
It's actually coming along well enough but I don't like the lack of cohesion between the plots. The idea and setting are sort of based on that exact thing (spare parts from unfinished or scrapped stories fused into one thing), but something just feels off about how it comes together.
It's like making a jigsaw picture from pieces that fit but all come from different sets.
I updated Mostly Lizard! Full update can be found here as always:
New characters get official introductions.
Like at marvel or DC?
I've been told that a minimum for a good page is 8 hours.
When I do that kind of thing instead of cartoony stuff like Ennui GO! it normally takes me a round that long.
Here are my webcomics:
"Hunger & Hunters":
"A Serenade for Ferrum Ferdinand":
OK, I'll be honest with you. I tried to read the first chapter of the second comic and it's downright ugly. Which of these is the most recent and with the best art?
I started them all in the same time period.
I'm used to drawing with graphite or coal. Ink is new to me. That's why I wanted other's opinions.
is the one is maybe the one I spent most time on.
You know what, never mind, don't answer. It's so bad, I don't even want to read it. When you encounter something you don't know how to draw, you just don't draw at all, meaning plenty of floating heads or bodies cut off in half in a full shot panel. Even things you do draw are abysmally bad. You make Dewd's comic look great and damn, that's really something. Please learn the basics of the basics at least, put some effort, then show it to strangers. You're a waste of post limit otherwise.
Those posts are 100% legitimatly constructive criticism, they just aren't candy-coated like a lot of other "criticism" you see online is. Straight up, that dude's comic has art so bad it's borderline unreadable, and he needs to know this. He needs to put serious time and effort into improving his art before he makes more comics.
rudeness is irrelevant, this guy is just being hurtful and insulting. that doesnt help anything. unless the guy was like "hey just taking a little litmus test here, how good am i right now?" for the purposes of submitting or not submitting to this or that. That's the only time that kind of assessment is called for
I'm not rude, I'm honest. Really honest. I honestly (get it?) think the comic is really fucking bad.
Let's think about this for a moment. Why do you choose a comic as a medium in the first place? Why not just write novels? Apparently because you want to illustrate the story, not just by single images here and there, you want to illustrate the whole thing. Your art thus needs to be at least descriptive, because by choosing comics you forego a whole lot of narration you could use to describe places, setting, action and so on. Right?
So what happens when the art is so bad you can barely make out what's going on and sometimes not even that? You are losing your narration. You're left with just dialogues and some crude drawings that don't really do anything. You may as well just write screenplay-like dialogues, you'll save your time because your art doesn't add any value.
This, however, is even worse, because the art is off-putting. Not only you have only dialogues to work with, you also have to FIGHT AGAINST your horrible drawings which will likely cause potential readers to do a 360 moonwalk the fuck away from your work. You're literally handicapping yourself a whole lot, and it's comics we're talking about, where art is a much, much more important aspect as far as the first impression is concerned. And the first impression is really important considering a potential reader has so many webcomics to choose from. You need to hook the guy in and you are trying to do it with art which value is not even a zero, it's in fucking negatives.
Do you understand? He's only hurting himself by putting out that art. At his *current* level he should stick to novels instead.
>it's just your opinion and rude behavior when you say something is very bad
>it's good criticism if you pat each other's backs
This is the one site where I don't have to sugarcoat my impression of other people's works, so fuck off.
>If you're not good at a thing you should just give up and do something else
That's not critiquing, that's retardation.
Following your own "advice" you should stop trying to tell people what to do, because you've got shit for brains.
>If you're not good at a thing you should just give up and do something else
If that's what you got out of my post, then you should find yourself a proper hugbox where everyone will love your work no matter how bad you are.
If you're not good at a thing, instead of shoving that thing in other people's faces, you should improve first.
Too hard to understand? I thought it's common logic, but I guess I was wrong.
So, You basically saying "Git gud before posting your art".
You are right, But being a dick wouldn't help them to get better.
>shoving it in my face
He's posting it in a thread where the whole point is to help people. He's not "hurting" himself. He's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing.
You, however, keep digging yourself into a hole, and keep acting more retarded.
Every artist who has ever drawn good has spent thousands of hours drawing badly and showing it to other people for help, exactly like he's doing. If you were an artist, you'd know that yourself. You're not upset because he lacks skills. You're upset because he's got the balls to do what you can't do.
I appreciate you guys taking the time discussing this. I really do.
The thing I wanted to hear was how far am I right now. (One sees his own work in a different light.)
I can take really harsh ctitiques, but I always want to hear the specifics of what's wrong/right. I got some here.
But I can't "get good" before posting, if I don't know how far am I, and I can only know that by asking.
>I don't know how far I am.
You're still at the beginning. Which is fine, everybody started there.
What you want to work on is construction and proportions, but I think you probably already know that. You're at the stage where there's little that we can tell you specifically, and the only thing to do is practice, practice, practice. You're at the "just keep from falling over" stage of learning to ride a bike.
That might not be what you want to hear. I remember being frustrated when I was at the same point and I got little direct help, but it's true. Most of what you need at this point is practice and developing a kind of muscle memory that can only come from doing it repeatedly.
nobody here is anywhere close to in danger of that. least of all someone this bad. it goes without saying he's already had more than his share of 'you suck'. now give him something he can actually use
I generally think that the reaction/answer should be appropriate to the level of the posted comics. Apparently I'm harsher than many guys hanging out in these threads, but I'm also much nicer than /ic/ or other places where people take art seriously.
Whether it helps depends on a person. Bad reactions to your work mean it's not liked, right? So the logical solution would be to improve your skills because unless you're a spoiled autist of CWC magnitude, you are aware your art isn't exactly good. And if you're one of those who'll choose to get offended instead and seek out other places for affirmation, you're a lost cause and a good riddance.
And the last thing - how are you supposed to not be a dick in response to those comics? You can either abbreviate your answer to "these are bad, improve" or lie. Why lie? Because there's literally nothing worth praising. There's no single element that you can look at and say "yeah, this is good, you can keep it the way it is and work on the rest". There's nothing. Art is abysmal, panelling is non-inspiring at best, layout is random, flow is non-existent. What can you praise? I see nothing.
I hope this will be my last post on the matter, I'd rather discuss webcomics than discussions about critique of webcomics.
>>And the last thing - how are you supposed to not be a dick in response to those comics?
the rest of us seem to have no problem. i certainly never walk on any eggshells, but neither do i ever exaggerate my disdain
it's going meh, we ran out of money after finishing a trailer for the webcomic\graphicnovel, writing the first volume, and recording about 14 songs for the music parts. It's a story that spans a bunch of different art forms including web comics,short films, music videos, albums and programming projects like a3ye.xyz
The Libel is a cypherpunk satire involving some fictional alter egos of hip hop artists like Donald Glovers "The Boy"
The Libel Trailer
We made a kickstarter.com/projects/notjesus/the-libel
but we cant afford ads or "social media management" solicitors we keep be spammed by so its just lost in the ether
if you have any questions you can ask in a3ye.xyz/que/
(if your interested in "The Boy" you can watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbtnbtF1l4g)
I'm the initial, angry guy.
I think you still haven't taken off from the start line. You should check out the /ic/'s sticky, they have a lot of reference material and book recommedations there. Start from the very beginning. Right now your art is working against you, like I already wrote. If you don't want to draw perfect human figures, at least get the basics of body/figure construction, perspective, foreshortening, layout and, if needed, color theory.
The worst you can do when you don't exactly know how to draw something is to assume "maybe it's something like that" and hope it somehow works out instead of looking for references.
The more I talk to you.
The more I think I am the shittiest artist in the world. I will never become great, I will die like a failure. In my life, I never felt I am getting a "hug-box". You keep on saying it, But I never felt that feeling. I always a shitty artist. I always felt like shit. But, I keep on drawing for no reasons.
How are you being "constructive" by being a complete and total dick to the guy? How can you give him criticism when you admit yourself that you haven't even put in the time to read his fucking comic? idiot.
Ever try to read in your dreams? Maybe you sit down in a library, open a book, and there's letters on the page. Maybe you can even read individual words. But trying to put it together into an actual meaningful sentence is impossible. Everybody is like that. There's a good reason. When you're dreaming, the part of your brain that imagines scenarios and creating pictures in your head is conscious and doing the dreaming. The part of your brain that knows how to read is still asleep. When you're dreaming, everybody has severe dyslexia.
Now learning to draw is a lot harder. There's a big part of your brain, way deep down in the "reptilian" part, that recognizes human faces. It's dedicated. Penguins can recognize their own babies out of millions of "identical" birds, humans have the same sort of faculties with each other. It's why human faces are the hardest thing to draw. Something looks off if even the smallest thing is out of place.
Then there's a second part of the brain that's way higher up in the cerebrum. It's the part that is capable of listening to instructions and learning from them. It's a very evolved part. Very human. It helps us learn how to build fires, or learn color theory. We can understand the basics of color theory in a 15 minute seminar. Here's the color wheel. Colors on the opposite side of the wheel work against each other and clash. Cooler colors can make for good shadows, hotter for highlights, etc. You can learn Loomis construction methods the same way. Draw a sphere or circle. Decide which direction the head is facing. Draw a little cross for the center of the brow. Drop a center line from it. Draw the jaw. Eyebrows will be on that horizontal center line etc., etc. etc. All well and good.
Then there's the third part of the brain. The part that controls the hands. None of these parts of the brain communicate with each other properly.
For those of you writing long stories, how did you decide where to start? Right now, I have a few different places I could start my story off at. Do I want to start in the middle of the action? The character who a good chunk of the story revolves around won't be met until probably about the second chapter, but I was thinking maybe I could show what she's up to, then hop into where the protagonists are. At the same time, I could start at the end and work my way back. Then there's just so many other options as well. I have my story, but I just can't seem to start it.
Look, art in comics matters, but not as much as that guy is crying about. I went through and read a few pages of your comic, I intend on reading what I can. So far, honestly, your comic "Hunger and Hunters" is interesting to me. The art is bad, but so what? You'll improve as you study the fundamentals. Don't let being bad at art stop you from making comics. You can improve it with practice.
Now everybody knows what the human head looks like. Except nobody can draw one properly, except for artists, and that's only because of a combination of that higher training, and lots of practice.
Now let's look at one of our friends heads here:
It looks to me like he's been reading how-to's. Quite possibly Loomis. Here's where all the help he's going to get from /ic/ ends, because recommending Loomis is all they can do. He seems to have drawn a circle. He knows he wants the head tilted down a bit. All well and good. He's dropped the vertical centerline down. Good. Now the jaw... wait, this looks like where he has the big error. I'd guess he's not quite comfortable yet between profile and 3/4's view. The head's in profile, but the jaw line is too far back, as if it were in 3/4 view. Thus the ear is set too far back. It's also too small in proportion, because of that first mistake.
Now the know-nothing shit-for-brains might freak out over that, and cry and cry about how horrible it and how "harmful" it is. But it's a small mistake, by a beginner, and it makes the whole thing look off, mostly because we're so particular about human faces. It's exactly the sort of mistake all beginners make thousands of times, and it's just one of those wrinkles that gets ironed out with practice. He's also added lots of details, individual hairs, fuzzy eyebrows, strong jowl lines. This is common in beginners as they're learning what details are important and what art. It's a part of developing an individual style, and looks worse than it is due to the construction errors. Again, these are all things that pan out with time and practice.
And for fuck's sake.
Let's just stop replying to this cunt. It's probably Bones anyway.
I decided which part of the story I wanted to focus on. There was a long backstory to where I got to where the characters were. But I realized none of it was really that important to the story that I wanted to tell, so I decided to start the thing in media res. Right in the middle of the "story." But at the beginning of the one I felt was important.
I can read in a dream
the problem is the words don't stay consistent. same with clocks.
uhhhhh that's just friction, anon. you have good advice but you could see better with your head out of dawkins' rectum
Like this >>77953634 already said: this >>77953260 is not me, aka this >>77949468.
This thread has given me alot of advice.
Thanks a bunch for the feedback.
can we start talking about the comics again?
I maintain that writing long stories, especially comics, is a terrible idea.
You get so wrapped up in where the comic SHOULD be and where it's going that you either neglect what you're currently working on, or get overwhelmed by the scope and quit.
Better to work on self-contained short stories or arcs. Keep it manageable and digestible to the reader, and to yourself.
oh phew, neither of them really appeared up close
that's probably why it didnt click
but i'll get it right in the next one first try!!
Hey, working on a video game. It's gonna be part platformer, part something else, a mystery genre.
Anyways, yeah, annabeth is the main, we get to learn about him before he met jack and stuff.
Also guys, my host struck up a deal with a guy who can make merchandise.
Would you be interested in buying any of the following:
Annabeth plushie ?
>chili like style
now how was i supposed to resist that?
On the topic of merch, does anyone know anything about costs for getting runs of various types of merch done? I'm looking at figurines and/or action figures which I expect will be expensive.
Wildly expensive. Anywhere you get them from requires minimum orders of thousands. Even if they're being made at $1 per toy (they won't be), that's still thousands of dollars.
I knew guys in the Florida con circuit who had stuffed animals that they sold. They had ONE design that they could sell, because having more than one was prohibitively expensive to produce.
the thread subject is "hows your webcomic" that's how it is. i have a sweet trailer and script but its lost in obscurity because i cant afford a bunch of ads and bs. why would i show it off here to the people who actually understand imageboards and shit that the webcomic will be about...
>because i cant afford a bunch of ads and bs
It's not bullshit, dude. If you wanna make it you have to work your ass off (which includes getting money to properly promote your work) or get unusually lucky. That's just the way it is.
we have worked our asses off. We've been working for 2 years with no pay. this didnt just pop up over night. we have been working on new websites new boards new drawing, original pictures\wallpapers.
thats why i said there a lot to it
You guys think all of the people writing the "harsh" critiques are the same person and they are not. The level of critique here isn't challenging or "hurtful" at all - being inflammed by mild critique IS pretty hugbox-y.
>Want to make an R Rated webcomic that will have violence, language, soft-core nudity, maybe some sexuality and everything fun under the sun.
>My parents, family and friends will know about it and read it.
How do artists, writers and other creators live with the fact that their parents know all of the adult shit in their work? I know it's ridiculous, but I can't get over the awkwardness.
alright, my bad I apologize.
I'm just trying to have what we've been working for get a little recognition. We understand what putting in the time and money for a project and we have done that and more.
Hey dad, look at this sex comic I made.
I don't want to sound like a child, but this thing I have right now, it's gonna take years but I want it to succeed as a legitimate franchise. I don't have a Tumblr or anything to show it, yet, I started thinking it up in February and have done some minor sketches and story work.
I'm usually pretty private about my art in general, but I don't want to be an asshole to my parents and keep things hidden from them. Maybe they wouldn't care, I don't know. I just can't stand the mental image of my mom or dad looking at my stuff, turning the page and seeing a a sexy lady get her shirt torn off, showing her ample boobies.
Maybe I'm overthinking it.
honestly, I thought people would appreciate something new, especially with so much on it, we've worked on our own tshirts and setup an imageboard that goes with the webcomic.
The comic most of it written we dont have many pages because its the most expensive. the trailer took alot and we have this page
we have one artist working on all the drawings and hes also dealing with school and shit.
im not blinding shilling im trying to have a discussion and get people interested. how else would i do that without posting to what it is?
We mostly make the comic because its a hobby but we want to be able to afford the hobby.
thats why we've been working on so much along with the comic. We want to provide the comic for free and afford it by selling the clothes and music.
and the alternative, stuff being handmade in smaller numbers, doesnt save you a dime because each individual one is then ludicrously expensive
fact is 3d shit is still expensive as fuck, and probably will be until 3d printers get off their laurels and become something more than a gimmick that prints things out of waxy plastic
well next time tell us more. plenty of people come in here and advertise, but they dont just plop down a link. they introduce us, tell us stuff about it, tell us there's a kickstarter.. the whole thing
heh. i tried that. mine insisted they were still reading it. they weren't... but every so often would still say they were, or say something tha tmakes it clear they werent, and EEVERy so often get some flak for it (never what you'd expect either)
finding out that I apparently have the image of being for little kids is never fun. Not that my shit is any worse than european or japanese kids shows
Your right, but that why we made the trailer, to introduce it to people. The trailer isn't just about the comic though. It represents what the whole brand is about. Which is about creating art and spreading inspiration by doing what your passionate about in life.
alright, my bad. ill keep this in mind
brand awareness is great for a pitch to executives... it's uh.. not a great way to connect to people like us. Just gotta use your situational awareness!
awareness awareness. underwearness
The better way to introduce it to people would be to actually have the comic and have a fair number of pages out for people to see and get invested in the story. I think pretty much everyone in this thread who actually do have their webcomics out there would agree.
Well I could share pages of the story but I doubted people would want to read the script before its drawn out and thought people would appreciate the time we put into the trailer\music\clothes\photography\imageboard to understand how much we are dedicated to this project and how much we can offer.
YEAH! You notice that!
He can't show his web-comics. The fucking coward can't show his comics.
Okay, Finish with the dialogue. Proof-reading anon.
You do the rest of the job.
I did not notice that. Good eye on you.
Hehehe. it took me a second, but I got it. I'll be interested to see where this ends up going
what is it with cupcake shops? I remember someone in these threads was going to have a superhero who works in one
I don't have more pages but I do have a whole universe that set to rival Marvel set up around it. Every character you see has an entire backstory with novels, screenplays, and\or albums about their character. All along with an imageboard set around all of their likes.
I really dig your art. The lack of outlines is really smoothly done and feels real nice.
I recommend you have the yellow the character is colored with where he's being electrocuted make it a little more obvious hes being electrocuted
This looks alright. The biggest complaint I have is that you waste a lot of page space. You shouldn't have so much white floating around. It looks unfinished and cheap.
Try to make the most out of a page, and definitely don't do weird shit with the panels until you've gotten damn good at sequential storytelling.
>but I do have a whole universe that set to rival Marvel set up around it. Every character you see has an entire backstory with novels, screenplays, and\or albums about their character. All along with an imageboard set around all of their likes
Yeah, see, none of that matters because you have no pages.
they're at a bakery, i guess? and im not your cupcake guy.
will keep in mind anon
yea i made the terrible mistake of just adding in random panels without thinking how they would effect everything else
thanks for the feedback guys
Only about 50 seconds of it is trailer. The other two minutes is a black screen.
And no, in comics, animated trailers don't mean much. In comics, the only thing that really matters is the comic.
>are you telling me thats worth nothing?
Yes, I am. Actually, it's worth less than nothing, because you spent time and apparently money to make it, and it will do nothing at all for your comic, so it's a net loss. You should have spent that time and money on actual pages.
It's not black screen, the end has an original song by one of the characters...
yeah i get you.
the trailer was 5 drawings of one character and one drawing of 6 others. wouldve been about 5 panels if we made pages.
I edited the trailer while the artist was too busy with personal problems and school so its was better than just not releasing anything.
I wish we had more pages to show but there's nothing really i can do about that for now
>It's not black screen, the end has an original song by one of the characters...
I don't care. Comics are a visual medium. Gimme something to look at.
It sounds more like you wanted to make an album not a comic.
>the end has an original song by one of the characters...
...over a black screen. That's an immediate turn-off to anyone watching the video. People will look at that and think you were so lazy you couldn't even be bothered to do an animation or even the no-effort slideshow-style crap you did earlier in the video.
>I wish we had more pages to show but there's nothing really i can do about that for now
With this little content, you shouldn't have tried a Kickstarter, you shouldn't have bothered doing ANY promotion, and you absolutely shouldn't have bitched to us about how nothing has happened yet WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE TO ACTUALLY SHOW OFF.
2 new pages.
im not bitching that nothing happened im posting what work ive done so i can get feedback on the work put in. Only one comment actually addressed the content of what i showed >>77953061
im looking for criticism\opinions on the concepts, drawings, characters, sounds used but noone asked anything about the characters or the designs used...
I like this page alot so far.
How would you guys do a western take on a marriage between the magical girl genre and giant mecha? how would you make this appeal to the current population?
magical girls and super sentai...arent that much different in concept are they? the difference would really be the gender demographic they're aiming for. would you be willing to give an example of what you're doing?
This one's a bit of a talkie.
pointless: all female power rangers
bad: magical girl but they turn into mecha pilots
bad: magical girl but they turn into robots.
still bad: magical girl but they turn into/are different styles/genres of sentient mecha. they can be hijacked and hacked.
good: magical girl, but transforming turns you into a cutesy doll-like android. the more you use cyborg form you gradually and irreversibly become more and more robotic, physically and emotionally. think cyberpunk 2020's cyber-psychosis. (horror/deconstruction)
better: magical girl dislikes being the publicity and sexuality of being a famed magical girl vigilante/soldier. she becomes a mecha pilot. and becomes reluctant and eventually refuses to fight outside the less effective machine. (coming of age/deconstruction)
funny: macho mecha pilots must begrudgingly use partially sentient magical girl mecha. these mecha are flamboyantly girly to a fault and indulging in their transformations makes them more powerful at the cost of being less responsive/logical.
>how would you make this appeal to the current population?
you make it as braindead and pandering as every other successful modern genre-checklist anime show.
oop you forgot to resize. okay.. time to zoom in and out. i am giggling more than usual. Like this is actually a well set up joke, not just a sort of pile of humor stirred into a pudding and blopped down on a plate. good job.
Umm is Anna's tail missing? and holy shit flexi-twisting in 2nd panel. that's what you get with a morphing metal spine i guess.
btw that should be 'your' in the first panel.
Annabeth is so damn cartman i love it. but old cartman. not boring new cartman.
jesus i am starting to ship the fuck out of them what is wrong with me.
Never give up! Trust your instincts!
funny, those two examples are certainly NOT what I would pick for blending the two genres, and yet... that would probably work a lot better than what I was imagining.
The differences are mainly in the trappings. The story structure is the same, but neither one is particularly MARRIED to that story structure, it's just tradition (it makes for quick easy writing so they can churn 'em out for the kids, and do live stage shows with ease). Those of us with mature tastes are in it for the actual trappings, the cool robots, the fun powers, the cute girls, the awesome weapons.. not as much the repetitive monster of the week use a super move we win format
Shit, Meagers seems like a guy who could make a mint by having the world's only efficient company that cuts out all the treacle and actually lays off the right people instead of the only ones who work. or was he just unable to do that?
... oh shit is that actually what happens if the balls touch? damn, i didnt realize how much i.. i mean other people!! were playing with fire
also i did not realize pinkhair mcvagoo only had 25 percent share in her own company. That's trickystyles.
Darcy is the worst kind of bitch though. Trying to affix a formula to chaos.. all you do is hurt everyone involved and then blame all of them. fucking behaviorists, fucking.. marketing assholes. they dont understand a damn thing.
So yeah dude good job making your villain hateable
>that worry when youre such a loner that if you die nobody will ever be able to piece together who you were
>and since nobody can speak your true name to open your tardis and insert your time scar, it'll just sit out in the open where anyone can leap into it and fuck up your history
but modern anime arent popular at all
anyway if i was going to mix the two like that, i'd make it more like that exo frame Dexter had. Or like Oman: O-parts or Pony Metal U-GAIM. Nice small-scale mecha suited for fighting monsters of like, 12 feet in height. Something where the girl is quite visible inside
on the other hand if we're ditching the mecha part of the sentai you could have an ultraman kinda situation, transforming into some manner of feminine titan. theme it after ancient goddesses, that kinda shit.
>good: magical girl, but transforming turns you into a cutesy doll-like android.
I had to draw this
I just started reading your comic, it's great so far, but what did she rename the Denver Broncos to?
So hows my composition on this? I feel like the legs are a bit ehh
my two cents: I'd place the background figure's legs further apart like in a run, both the girl's legs forward like she's landing on both feet, and the foreground guy's legs placed closer together. Maybe his sword raised above his head so the silhouette reads better
I'm not claiming it's better but maybe it can help
Oh! that is nice, I see what you mean.
They are midair though so a running pose wouldn't really fit with what i'm going for but I'm definitely digging the one on the far right.
Panel 1 dialogue:
"shake it and go"?
"TAKE it and go" surely.
Panel 2 dialogue:
Panel 2 and 3 captions:
Capital W starting "When"
Too many periods. An ellipsis only has 3 periods, but people have a tendency to go overboard, probably because they think "more dots = longer pauses".
I just noticed the hazmat suit is in two subtly different shades of yellow. Too subtle, as it's practically unnoticeable. Change them so they contrast more.
Sorry, but I've been taking writing and pacing cues from Zack Morrison's Paranatural so this fight will drag out for the next 130 pages, AKA 5 minutes.
Seriously though, thanks! I wish I could tell you how the fight goes but I don't want to spoil anything.
I tried drawing a head for the first time
It comes off more like an ape then a man desu
The answer to your problem is: write it all chronologically first. Just vomit everything until you get to the end. If you get stuck, just skip it or pull something out of your ass. THEN edit the story into something more manageable. Shorten it. Make sure it follows a proper story structure -- you'll find instructions online for that. Be prepared to throw away a large part of your original ideas and focus your story around the first plot point, middle and the second plot point and most importantly: the climax. It's not actually very hard. Just write, don't think, then edit the story to follow a neat structure. Make it tight and save all the extra ideas for your next story. Also don't get stuck with editing too much, set a limit to yourself about perfectionism and just make finishing a story your goal.
well the characterization is ok but without a rotation view i doubt the intended shape would stay. For facial anatomy in itself i think you did alright for underlying features.
Try drawing the same face in alternate views and see what happens!
Every time I think i'm ready to come back to HYWC real life pulls me away. Yeesh, I wonder how many people are in here I never got to meet!
Hi co, I'm not the best writer or artist around. But I had this silly idea for a harem type comic.
Regular guy suddenly meets these Ninja dog girls who move into his house, and have wacky adventures together with him.
There will be weekly monster fights and occasionally questing for legendary weapons or ninja scrolls.
Plus maybe the Male mc will be able to fight as well. Sort of like how Marcus fights the bad guys with Star in star versus the forces of evil.
And maybe there will be a busty childhood friend who gets jealous of the Ninja dog girls horning in on her friend.
I know most people don't like Harems for being generic, but i thought I'd go with something sort of simple for my first webcomic attempt.
Any ideas or thoughts on this?
>good: magical girl, but transforming turns you into a cutesy doll-like android. the more you use cyborg form you gradually and irreversibly become more and more robotic, physically and emotionally. think cyberpunk 2020's cyber-psychosis. (horror/deconstruction)
>better: magical girl dislikes being the publicity and sexuality of being a famed magical girl vigilante/soldier. she becomes a mecha pilot. and becomes reluctant and eventually refuses to fight outside the less effective machine. (coming of age/deconstruction)
>funny: macho mecha pilots must begrudgingly use partially sentient magical girl mecha. these mecha are flamboyantly girly to a fault and indulging in their transformations makes them more powerful at the cost of being less responsive/logical.
Please don't ever write a comic if this is your idea of good.
Not inherently a bad idea. Harems can be fun.
But yeah draw up some character designs. Remember that in a harem, you gotta make each girl very different yet still likeable.
Every reader is gonna need to have a favorite.
Also, I'd recommend not introducing all the girls at once. Introduce them over time so that you can give each of them appropriate screentime. If they're all dumped on the readers at once, you run the risk of them getting lost amongst each other.
I have never understood this ONLY THREE PERIODS bollocks. I use two periods for a brief pause but longer than a comma (or if a person loses their train of thought briefly), 4 if they full-on stop talking but pick up because nobody else talked, five if they are utterly speechless.. rarely more than 5, but for emphasis you can do that
Two periods isn't enough to properly convey a pause in my opinion, and more than 3 feels like the writer is trying too hard to draw it out. 3 periods is all you'll ever need, and if you want to make a pause more meaningful you can do so with the way the scene is laid out.
Hmmm I didn't think of it that way, Nice idea.
I was also thinking like the Male mc could be the son of a Hero or a martial artist, but he prefers not too fight.
But with the Ninja and monsters, he's kind of forced into life or death struggles.
if this were porn, would it be fappable? or at least can I make a porn comic
Just make a secret account on pixiv and post it on aco, adult comics and cartoons.
Don't know if you were updated on the fact that we have an adult board for cartoons now.
Hey guys it's time for wacky witches in the wild west again
I've been working on story writing and anatomy. Some anons pointed out that my protagonist's lower half didn't match up well with the upper half, so I've tried to touch upon that. There was also talk of lowering her facial features because I'd be boxing myself in as far as expression goes. Less worried about that, though.
As far as writing goes, how much organization do y'all put in before the actual drawing work begins? I'm trying to work out all the dialogue and events in my first short story before digging in and putting pencil to paper. I thought about maybe just diving in since I have a general idea of what I want to do but I feel like I might end up getting sidetracked or fuck up the pacing if I just wing it.
This is good advice, but this method doesn't work for all writers. Here's a typology of writers by GGRM:
“I think there are two types of writers, the architects and the gardeners. The architects plan everything ahead of time, like an architect building a house. They know how many rooms are going to be in the house, what kind of roof they're going to have, where the wires are going to run, what kind of plumbing there's going to be. They have the whole thing designed and blueprinted out before they even nail the first board up. The gardeners dig a hole, drop in a seed and water it. They kind of know what seed it is, they know if planted a fantasy seed or mystery seed or whatever. But as the plant comes up and they water it, they don't know how many branches it's going to have, they find out as it grows. And I'm much more a gardener than an architect.
If you are a "gardener" this will either be impossible for you, or it'll feel seriously restrictive as you begin to work. If you know you're a gardener, what you need to do is, with every chunk, or whatever you work in, ask how the panel, the page, the scene, are contributing to your story: is it adding to your characters, progressing the plot, developing your ideas?
That's a great analogy, I had no idea it was from GRRM. It's funny because I was convinced I was an architect but I couldn't write for shit, then I tried being a gardener and I was immediately in my natural environment. It's so natural to proceed by "what would this character do now?"
I'm at a foot ball game.
Drawing sarah in this outfit is fun.
super early sneak preview of the next exciting page of F.A.T.E.S.~!
Lol, I was workin up the nerve to post in their How's Your Webcomic about some of my ideas when you posted this. Plus I used it as an excuse to do a nsfw warm up today before getting started on maggie.
are you going to be doing this shit for the rest of your life or what?
please stop, i dont deserve this amount of internet bullying, whatever you think ive done or said, just keep in mind people make up a lot of crap about me that isnt true and used to pretend to be me by using my name and trip, so in other words your just being a mean piece of crap to me for no god damn reason, so ill ask you again nicely to please stop doing this, please...
thanks this means a lot to me, you tried
Yeah, I would do this whole comic water colored, but when I did that people said it was Chris Chan teir. And that's why I stick to digital.
But to be honest, I did the same thing I did as digital, I just drew it.
Aw, thanks guys! My fans, like you, are more than half the reason why I draw.
Glad I could help!
>girls sense danger
HEY HEY MASTER HEY HEY LOOK LOOK LOOK HEY THERE'S A GUY
that's the mailman
GO FIGHT HIM DUDE HEY MASTER GO KICK HIS ASS
i'm not fighting him
YOU CAN FIGHT GO GO GO GO FIGHT HIM
>tummy rubs shut up the loud pomeranian girl
not yet, but don't quit. You're getting there. You clearly know how to construct: next step is evening out your proportions. then after that: if you want it to be nice porn, smooth things out a bit. You don't want all the harsh detail all the time. that's one thing that took me a long time to learn in my prons
lotta porncomic discussion here when we have an aco thread
she still has pretty stubby legs but if this is just your style then.. at least you're in good company! it's a popular way of drawing. it at least looks like it has a lot of fun appeal and good times.
I would say go ahead and 'dive in' but write things down as you dive. write down your ideas. even just arranging them as paragraphs in a notepad document
yeah but you have to be able to justify those, so it's not just your emotions
language aint professional man. i've begun ommitting commas that i was taught were 'grammatical' but don't actually convey a pause. In 50 years (if grammar has survived at all) that'll be the standard.
not saying he shouldn't do watercolor, but his art is still pretty bad. honestly dewd, it's the blind leading the blind here. do what you want, but take everybody's opinion (good or bad) with a grain of salt. half the people here only look at cartoon or anime art and have really low standards as to what "good art" is. you guys give me a headache.
what year do you think this is?
don't get me wrong, this pisses me off, but.. there are no standards anymore
i'm deciding what grammar is for myself based on the same, if not significantly more strigent standards than the ones that decided it centuries back, and continue to every so often. i'm not trying to ebonics it up here and justify bad grammar as being common.
see there where i used "(noun) it up" ? That's a new piece of grammar. we all decided to use it.
I hope you weren't at the Vikings game. If you were, sorry about that.
thats not me man, i dont know anything about grammar and dont have any kind of opinions on it, its not something i think about at all which is why i appreciate whenever points out i spelt kingdome wrong or needed a you're instead of youre, cuz i have no ifuckendea how to proper grammer
also please stop calling anyone you dont like or argues with you bones, its really annoying, whats worse is that person wont even correct you and say there not me, which is even worse!!! it really gets under my skin and causes me a lot of stress
stupid sexy robot voice
love that smug assumption that i must be breaking the rules due to failing at them
not that i'm much more experienced than you and long-since gave up giving a shit like so many oldtimers who get that hilarious lack-of-a-filter thing going on.
I did a guest page for dewd
I'll be streaming if anyone is interested
dont forget, if those two ever decide to let up, the lawyers will swarm in with their constant lawsuits until theyve taken every dime away from everyone and given it to someone else but taken their cut
official FATES page 8 wip! This page is going to be good!
no colors are official colors yet, all temporary clothes and gun colors!
Sorry for the long hiatus.
I had to go on a major break to write a Visual Novel... and so far, I'm really proud of the outcome.
It'll be done by next month, so we'll go back to Kevin soon.
Here's a little preview for you guys.
drawing goat legs riding a bike is hard now that i think of trying to imagine what it would look like...
kevin's outer leg isnt showing in the first version, are these sequential?
I finished page 52. I really need to work on pages throughout the week and not pump it all out in one day.
I just realized how weird it looks without the bike...
I just read into Hunger & Hunters, but I absolutely LOVE it! Keep going, man, this is hilarious!
>At his *current* level he should stick to novels instead.
Oh and you sound like a major dick, btw. I think the art fits the narrative very well. It's meant to be humorous. If you would've actually read into it with an pen mind you would've noticed it's basically a Onepunch Man with werewolves.
completely changed the colors
bright orange hat and boots is now a faded raw hide color...
hows it looking so far????
Hey I know this sounds like attentioncajoling, but
anyone who's reading my comic, particularly the old shit, what do you think were the biggest-hits kinda moments? There's actually a serious reason
ideally something that can be represented with just a single image
>You're upset because he's got the balls to do what you can't do.
B A S E D
That's really tough because my favorite moments are when it's the whole group pal'in around and being silly. I still haven't found time to finish the Kiwi Day (i'm like 40 pages in) so I don't really have any old shit to really go off of, though.
Yooooooo, its done yall! i hope yall like it! i love the way it turned out!
more pages here: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/
Work on your backgrounds more, it's a real eye sore, also, play with your line weight, it feels way too heavy and flat. Plus, texturize the bottles, sky and background, it seems half-attempted honestly.
Sunday night inking. So tired but I have a new found fear of dying before I finish anything and it's forcing me to work.
Generally yeah. It's tacky and overused. There's plenty of fonts out there that look nicer and may be more to your personal aesthetic.
Look around on fontsquirrel to see if there's some you like.
Thanks guys! I'm hoping to be able to color these soon and make more but I'm not 100% sure if I want to use watercolors or digital yet.
I like it. it resembles my handwriting
is it overused? I never ever see it used. Hell, at this rate it's probably more associated with undertale or possibly doge than anything else
So, I have a problem.
My setting is too perfect.
I'm working on an alt history fantasy Earth where all mythology, folklore and religion
(except for Pastafarianism and that one religion I can't talk about or I'll be sued or be assassinated by Hollywood celebrities)is real. So gods, monsters, demons and spirits share the world with humans. Not like Harry Potter or Percy Jackson where they all hide themselves for some silly reason, but it's common knowledge and perfectly mundane to the general population.
But, in a world that is inhabited by thousands of divine beings and people know magic- how would there be any problems?
>Did your doctor tell you that you have terminal cancer? Well, look for a phoenix or just swallow a seed from a Sinmurgh Tree.
>Did an important character die? Just get a god to bring them back to life!
>Global warming? Just get a few winter gods to freeze everything up there! On second thought, the Ozone wouldn't be depleted since the nature spirits and gods could either stop it or they'd come down on the humans and just say "guys, cut the shit, lol."
You see my problem, here?
I guess I could raise more challenges, like phoenix stuff can't cure cancer, or resurrection is possible, but a simple procedure can cost at least one million dollars, so only rich people and politicians can afford to pay gods to raise their dead people.
Thanks in advance.
Since it's a sunday, there's two new strips. Other one is NSFW so it's not really appropriate for this thread, and it's also censored so it's not appropriate for the other one.
Yep! On sundays there's a normal three panel strip, as well as a six panel one that's NSFW.
The uncensored version is a patreon-exclusive deal, but I try to still make it at least funny so you can still enjoy it if you don't want to donate.
son of a-
i just went back and checked and I missed 3 strips.
man i like your comic, why you gotta do dis.
I mean shit your update schedule is positively HEROIC and that is awesome, but do we really need 8 comics a week?
actually I'm looking at your update schedge and http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/archive/ it's pretty damned haphazard. For a gag comic that doesnt have the kind of plot where you instantly go 'oh i must have missed one, i'd better go back' this is.. not ideal. You want a consistent update time once a day max.
This is weird concept that I tried to bring in my comics called the "Ant theory". Get a bunch of guys that look the same and get one girl to be their sexy smart leader.
Does that sound sexist?
Sounds like a recipe for a top tier waifu to me.
Ideally I'd like to get into a better update schedule where the normal updates go live earlier in the day, and then extra content would come out at night.
Either way I think the current schedule goes a long way towards establishing the comic as consistent, which to me is really damn important in webcomics.
probably, but so what? we're not gonna bitch
WHY do you want to do that? just for the ant comparison? because whatever your reason is, stick by that and focus on it and you'll do fine
consistency is awesome. all this time i thought 'woot there's always a new one, i love that' and it turns out sometimes there were 2 and i missed it
i may be wrong here, someone please correct me, but i dont think anyone checks the same comic twice in a 24 hour period
yeah that makes sense. rules that could be sussed out if a careful reader checked all the clues, but not rules that are crammed down anyone's throat. that way if you have to change them later, the inconsistency wont be nearly as visible, it will feel to the reader like they just had it wrong
I can't say that I'm interested. I usually don't like stuff like this though and I don't think it's a wise decision to make a character based of Huey because he's also a comic book character. And the Kickstarter campaign it just looks... really pretentious to be honest. You haven't even shown what the comic would be about or be like. That's how you run a kickstarter.
I think your big flaw is trying to make a webcomic into some sort of big thing when you are completely unknown and have an idea that isn't very interesting. You're trying to get merch and stuff and have a trailer and a kickstarter. For what? For a webcomic? Most people who have webcomics do it for free at least when they start out. What about this requires money other than the merch which I have no idea why it exists. You think you have some sort of big amazing product but from what I've seen it's just a webcomic and you will have some merch also. And I guess you're not Jesus and you talk pretty pretentiously in the kickstarter and stuff. It looks to me like you're doing this in a large part for the money. I really have no idea why you're planning merchandise before you even have made the comic. That's not how it's done.
The only merchandise I have planned is plush dolls. And only for myself.
>all dat drama, violence and weird shit
>greek, but more violent and weird
>jesuschrist vs mahoma: electric boogaloo
>all that spooky scary shit lurking in the shadows at night is real: vampires, ghouls, skinwalkers, dopplegangers, trolls, demons, dragons, leviathan, kraken...
>all these gods who don't care or even outright despise humans
Cancer? Not really a concern considering all the curses and magic venom and plague shit killing people left and right
Important Character dies? Good luck convincing a God to go through the Hades, Inferno or whathaveyou to retrieve some guy's soul (which would make for an interesting story anyway: see Orpheus and Eurydice); That is, assuming his soul or whatever hasn't been irreparably corrupted, damaged, eaten or lost forever somehow.
Global Warming? Quite a few gods and magic critters are trying to reshape earth into their kingdom already; eternal forest as far as the eye can see, the whole world submerged in the oceans, a wastelandish hellhole of eternal suffering, a well kept paradisiac garden for everyone... doesn't seem to me like any of those can coexist
Depending on how strong they are and what kind of influence they have, what would be surprising would be for mankind to even be alive
You're welcome man. Can't browse nsfw board at the office, but I managed to finish it and post it before leaving home, I figured you'd see it eventually.
I also had fun making it.
>dream an idea for a story or strip
>try and hang on to some of the ideas because I thought it had potential
>now I'm awake and I can note down the ideas that I dreamed
>this could still work, but I don't have any clue how to go about writing it
Tweaked it a bit based on input, idk what im gonna do with the other guy
no way is this anywhere near finished though, as pretty as it might look
So all these gods and monsters and demons are quite happy to play nice get along with each other?
How does Ra feel about Apollo? Do they take turns driving their sun-chariots across the sky or does Apollo cut Ra off over Mount Parnassus?
What happens when Apollo decides to expand his influence out of Greece and starts encroaching on Egyptian territory? (Say if Greek immigrants move to Egypt and start setting up temples to Apollo)
Stories require conflict, and there is more than enough potential conflict to go on in that setting.
You define laws that they follow. Not "weewooweewoo" laws, but you know, the natural phenomenon kind. Laws about resurrection because trying to resurrect someone a certain way causes problems. Phoenix are rare and impossibly quick, seeds from the Sinmurgh tree try to devour whoever takes them away from the tree's boundary, etc. etc.
If you can't find ways to instill conflict in a "perfect" setting, then the setting isn't the problem.
The Magical Adventures of Roy and Shantae!
But seriously though this looks really sick. They already give off some great vibes just from these early sketches, so definately keep going. The logo clearly gives off both a sci fi and RPG style vibe, which is hopefully what you wanted. It's great.
Pardon my autism on this one slight tip/issue I have, however. It's not a big problem, but basically, I think it would look a bit better if you took out the black pupil out of the girl's eyes, and then it in the dude's eyes instead? It sounds retarded, I know, but I just feel the boy's eyes look much too pale and underwhelming, while the girls' irises seem a little too real. I really think putting black pupils in the boy's eyes could make a huge difference (if not, at least try it)
That's not stupid, it's just a case of someone not knowing when to use true black. They'll figure it out as they go, it's not really an easy fix. They'll need something that fits their tastes.
Sorta like this?
I think the girl's eyes are a little better, not sure about the guy's. I'd play with different colors, highlights, and see if giving them an outline makes it better or worse. In the end it comes down to your taste and knowledge.
>Hey man what brushes are you using for their hair?
this shit mainly, I like to fuck around with the blending levels.
Thanks man, this is Chapter 4 I'm doing now and it differs a bit from the previous ones in terms of my approach and whatnot but I've probably been having the most fun messing with this one so far.
man as long as it works properly and has good easy to use navigation. i wanna be able to quickly click my way through the comic, and to be able to bookmark a page that shows the newest comic every day, whether that be the root url or the /latest.phtml or something
What do you think is better? A weekly update? Or "update whenever there's a new completed page"? I've got a few pages completed under my belt, and I'm leaning towards updating on a weekly basis, but the urge to just post it all and giving readers more is tempting.
i mean, are you making enough that if you release one a week you'll start building a backlog? because that's great. i don't want big gaps, so basically whichever choice means i don't have to go a long-ass time without a new one.
Personally, I would say weekly. I'm a big stickler for having a set update schedule.
However, since your comic hasn't launched yet, I would say that you dump the pages you have, or at least a few of them, right at the start, to give new readers something more than just a single page to read, and then commence weekly updates or updates to whatever schedule you prefer, as long as it's a legit schedule.
drew kid fairune in an ugly christmas sweater
Is it acceptable to have multiple updates a week (2-3) but without a set schedule? Some pages just take me more than others. Is it that big of a deal?
"Your" kidding when you say you "fixed all spelling errors", right, son? Because you haven't even begun to correct your spelling, let alone your punctuation, conventions, grammar, and syntax. And trust me: you'd get much better feedback round these parts if you at least tried.
>his name backwards minus the first F
Well... I came up with several "plot-twists" for him and I can't wait to reach the point where I'm able to make comics about his past. His loss of power is pretty straight-forward, though. Without underlings, he sucks. The more people he can gather, the stronger he will be.