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>Spider-Man basically bitchslaps the Kingpin into a state

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>Spider-Man basically bitchslaps the Kingpin into a state of almost certain death.

Why can't we have moments like this in Spider-Man stories, /co/?
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Can't just use spiderman getting serious all willy nilly. Gotta make it count.
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>>77909376
Gotta have a bit of light before we can appreciate the dark times.
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>Making Kingpin, a guy who has kicked Daredevil's ass on many occasions, look like a bitch

No thank you.
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Because Slott's version of Parker is a perpetual loser on a scale two to three times greater than the average Peter Parker
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>>77909422
Daredevil is a really good martial artist who can tell how you're going to move by listening to your muscles and bone and hearing the air move around you

Spider-Man can tear steel apart with his bear hands and can avoid danger through limited precognition
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Because that was getting "too real" and "too dark" to the point that we got the stupidest reboot in comics.
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>>77909299
Because then they wouldn't be special.
The point of those moments is because they stand out from typical Spidey.
If he always did them, how would we know if shit was real or not?
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>>77909299
That was retarded. Only spiderfags like that shit, us rational people not so much.

>>77909422
Yep, but most people here won't see it that way because Spider-Man is apparently a god among street levelers.
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>>77909299
This also happened in the 'remade' back in black story where Peter had a 'sister' and the only good thing was the art.
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>>77909422
>>77909656

Yeah, guys, this was dumb. Let's not forget about Kingpin and Daredevil's super strength.
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>>77909299
Few people are dumb enough to push Spider-Man that far.

That aren't insane, that is.
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>>77909678
>Kingpin has super strength

Kingpin has never had super strength, and neither does Captain America

He's a giant ball of muscle but super he is not
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>>77909299
we've gotten plenty
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>>77909604
Beware the wrath of a gentle man.
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>>77909749
I was being ironic, neither of them has super strength. Spidey does, tho. And even though Kingpin managed to bear hug really hard once, Spidey can literally hold the entire collapsing Bugle building.
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I'm glad that serious mode Spider-Man is a rare thing. The alternative is for it to become as much of a cliche as serious mode Superman, and I can no longer get excited about that shit because it is too played out
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>>77909856
I get the impression that Superman is just a huge dick nowadays. Am I right?
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>>77910023
>nowdays
Superman was only not a dick during the bronze age
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>>77910023
It depends on what book you read. He's a big old douchebag in Justice League pretty consistently, for instance.
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I love how at least 3 of Spider Man's top moments (well, good/memorable moments) throughout history have been him basically holding up really heavy things. Peter Parker has always felt like he needs to be able to do anything and save everyone and when he's unable to do that it destroys him mentally and emotionally. I've always appreciated the whole "weight of the world on his shoulders" kind of moments that he gets from time to time.

Saying all that as a lead in to the question: what are some of Spider Man's greatest feats of strength? And also who are some of the strongest people whose asses he's kicked?
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>>77910088
Firelord
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>>77910088
I was looking into that the other month. I'll post some of my findings.
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>>77910198
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>>77910223
Jesus Christ
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>>77910223
onbiously some should be taken with a grain of salt
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>>77910263
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>>77910263
Is this from the Captain Universe period, or do I just automatically think that whenever I see McFarlane or Larsen art?
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>>77909844
He can't, he acted as a pillar. he wasnt supporting the entire weight before back in black he was a 5-7 tonner, after back in black he was around 20
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>>77910281
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>>77910300

>>77910284
do you mean when Spider-Man was captain universe? Because that only lasted like two issues and Peter had a blatantly different blue and white outfit during it
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>>77910336
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>>77910296
I was under the impression that Spidey had Strength Class 15 (can OFFICIALLY lift 15 tons, in practice is a whole other story) but held himself back to not cripple the people he beat up.
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>>77910373
gettin real sick of these connection errors
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>>77910088
Unfortunately that's kind of become shorthand for "I need a dramatic spidey bit and I am a lazy writer".

I get it, he held up something heavy that one time in Secret Wars and it was really neat. Wish they'd stop using it so often.
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>>77909844
You weren't being ironic, you were being facetious
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>>77910403

>>77910377
after all these years the impression I've gotten is that Spider Strength has nothing to do with muscles, and instead a 'push force' counterpart to his 'pull force' wallcrawling.

It does put strain on his muscles, sure, but exerting his spider strength has more in common with exerting his spider-sense compared to most people with super strength.

That is to say, since it's a supernatural power rather than one tied to his physical body, the limits on it are only theoretic. There is no hard answer
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>>77910489
I love the imagery of the spent web cartridges falling like bullet shells
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>>77910377
There's no consistency to this stuff. Too much time and too many writers and too many different circumstances that influence how strong he is both positively and negatively.

But about 15 tons is generally how I tend to think of him too. And yeah, he absolutely holds back a lot because he cares about not hurting or crippling people. Anyone arguing that Spider Man shouldn't be able to slap Kingpin around doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. (Unless it's 60s Kingpin when he first appeared and was initially portrayed as being as strong/stronger than Spider Man. But that was the 60s and Peter was still a teenager and it wasn't long before they decided to ship Kingpin over to Daredevil. But yeah, modern Spider Man >>>>>>> Kingpin)
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Who can forget this? https://youtu.be/GYOYewO_Veg
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now for some good old fashioned spider-man schooling
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>>77910587
I feel like spidermans fights have more thought put into them than most heroes. and i really like that.
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>>77909764
So Wolverine doesn't want to hurt him there right? Then why the claws?
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>>77910336
His power kept growing up until the point of the issues with the tri sentinal. He was flying around in his regular suit
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>>77910673
Wolverine has a bad habit of resorting to lethal measures with little provocation
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obligatory
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>>77909764
what issue is that?
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>>77909856
At least Superman has good comics though. Maybe they should bust out serious mode Spidey more often if that's what it takes to get him some actual good stories.
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Has Kingpin ever punched Al Gore in the face?

Didn't think so.

Kingpin has nothing on Spider Man.

(Actually, that's a lie. Kingpin has money. So much more money.)
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>>77910721
Couldn't Nightcrawler just teleport out of those webs?
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>>77910808
CA:CW better have an equivalent to this, even if its just pete fighting tony
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>>77910514
was this jms?
why the fuck does slott think himself hat shit? has he not read any of this beauty?
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>>77910997
I'm having a very hard time getting excited at all about Civil War on account of No Spider Man.

(And also just the scope of the thing. Instead of being an actual civil war, it feels like a glorified bar fight.)
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>>77910489
PUSH FORCE AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT
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>>77911059
there is Spider-Man, but we'll be lucky if he's in more than one scene
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>>77911161
Wait, there is? I thought Marvel still didn't have the copyrights to both Spider Man and X Men for film and TV.

Spider Man obviously has more movies about him than any other Marvel character, but it's too bad that they're all about him being solo. I'd love to be able to see him in action as one of the Avengers. (Bonus points if Wolverine is there. Mainly because who doesn't want to see Peter throw Logan out of a window in Tony's penthouse?)
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>>77910904
He was too starstruck by Spider-Senpai to do anything.
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>>77911308
have you been living under a rock? sony and marvel made a deal or something. Sony gets a new franchise series but marvel can use the actor and character in movies (or something). this happened months ago
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>>77911405
Yeah, Sony still makes the solo movies, but they're part of the MCU and he gets to be involved in the big team up movies.
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>>77911405
>>77911526
Feige will also be involved to coordinate and ensure things aren't completely bonkers, since Sony has no idea what they're doing with Spider-Man. Pretty sure, anyways.
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>>77910565
he should be around 20-25 tons
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I love it when he invoked the predator part of the spider
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still pissed we never got a proper look at his post apocalyptic tribe of bugmen
Frank a shit
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>>77909422
>implying Daredevil is somehow stronger than Spider-man
What? Dude, no.
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Is every Spidey writer obligated to attempt to recreate this scene?
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>>77915456
unfortunately.
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>>77909299
>Why can't we have moments like this in Spider-Man stories

Because Superior Spider-Man ended.
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>>77909409
Correct. Otherwise shit gets like the early 90's.
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>>77914694
I've never seen this, what exactly is happening?
and, spidey is referred to as zero? weird.
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>>77916732
That wasn't spiderman. That was just some frustrated loser pretending to be spiderman.

If you want geek beats up bullies stories then they are fucking everywhere in comic books.
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>capeshit moments

Lemme guess: after that moment Kingpin still lives and continues to operate as a drug pushing, human trafficking, murderous mob boss, right?
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>>77909544
>who can tell how you're going to move by listening to your muscles and bone and hearing the air move around you

No, he can tell by how your heart beats a bit faster when you are about to make a move.

For example he can't dodge a bullet, but he knows you are about to fire at him before you do, which is barely enough time to dodge, or hit the bullet with his sticks.
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>>77917771
Marvel vs The Punisher
basically Marvel Zombies but with a virus that turned people into bloodthirsty cannibals without the whole undead thing. Spider-Man is Zero as in 'patient zero'
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>>77910377
>I was under the impression that Spidey had Strength Class 15 (can OFFICIALLY lift 15 tons, in practice is a whole other story) but held himself back to not cripple the people he beat up.

It used to be class 10, then bumped to 20 after the Other storyline, I dunno what his current power class is.

But yeah, he is holding back non stop. There was a Wolverine crossover, where a suicidal spy (hunted by the KGB and CIA) sneaked up on him, and Spidey thought it was Wolverine and hit back accordingly - and killed the woman on the spot.
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>>77917879
after that moment Peter went and made a deal with Mephisto and everything that Peter did since right before asking MJ to marry him never happened because Quesada is a big baby and JMS was powerless to stop him.
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>>77917995
isn't that the event that in one continuity lead to Spider-Assassin?
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>>77918059

Yep.
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>>77910763
saved for the long winter kek-less nights
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>>77917879
One More Day happened.
But had it not, Peter said that he would fill Kingpin's lungs with webbings and kill him, also the story ends with Kingpin crawling like a bitch to his cell.
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>>77909409
It goes vice versa sometimes too. 2000s Marvel taught me that.
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>>77910088
>and look at them. My admiring audience...my adoring public!

Oh, shit. This is reminding me of that one Spider-Man issue where he's talking to Uncle Ben, imagining the conversation and it's making this scene much more powerful for me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgFOKzsLQuo

End of Spiderman 2 was fucking great. What a great movie. Also relevant to>>77910088


Great Spidey
Great Doc
Great Mary Jane
Great Aunt May
God tier JJJ
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>>77910855

>Spiderman doesn't have money meme

hahaha you ignorant twat
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>>77910855
currently Kingpin is completely out of the picture and Spider-Man, despite his "relatively" low personal income, runs one of the most influential companies in the world (making gear for the Avengers )
so you're wrong
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>>77910088
Juggernaut, kinda.
Also an iconic moment.
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>>77921223
If Peter had held his nerve, the one-above-all promised he'd live happily ever after with MJ after May died, so I don't think he'd have killed Kingpin
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>>77909422
The fact that Kingpin is even a threat to Parker on a physical level in Lee and Ditko/Romita run is bullshit and that's coming from someone who likes that run.
Here's something from the very first issue of his run not counting Amazing Fantasy 15.
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>>77922220
>Spidey trapping Juggernaut here, and the subsequent trauma of Juggernaut spending over a month digging himself out was one of the most pivotal moments towards Juggernaut's character development for the next decade or so, all the way up to Thunderbolts and Fear Itself with Juggernaut's resulting claustrophobia
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>>77909376
>>77909409
No he's not saying he wants a dark Spider-Man he's saying he wants a powerful one. Peter can't get through an issue of Slott's run anymore without assistance from a gadget or another character. Peter is a power house with a TON of experience, he doesn't need help every fucking issue!
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>>77922268
Why couldn't we get Stern again instead of Slott?
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>>77921516
>Great Mary Jane
Eh
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>>77909604
I read this story a while back, where is it from i can't remember?
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>>77910436
The first instance was before secret wars. The first one is to save aunt may in amazing spider-man 33.
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>>77910904
yeh but that issue was to show how awesome and impressive and the best superhero there is Spiderman
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>>77917879
It's just business. It's all it ever is. What's your favourite moment?
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>>77917995
Can you post the page(s)?
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>>77922301
Jeez, that actually makes me feel bad for him
Suffocation is like my worst phobia
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>>77910855

I loved that suit, especially when it was drawn to look a little more lanky or slender than that. I want Peter to design more suits and gadgets
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>>77914694
Frank was such a fuck up in this
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>>77924050

1
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>>77924785

2
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>>77924113
Reminder that Juggernaut did WTC. Twice.
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>>77924791
fuck...
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>>77909764
That's one of the few time that Wolverine didn't deserve this.
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>>77924791
Thats Pretty fucked up, I don't remmber this though, I remeber thier fight just not this part. Poor Peter
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>>77909764
oh Wolverine,
There's a fine line between masturbating while you look out a window, and masturbating while you're looking in a window. I'll give you a hint: one of 'em is super illegal.
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I only really watched the 90's cartoons from spiderman.
Which spider-man series should I read /co/ ?
Superior ?
Amazing ?
Ultimate ?
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>>77927517
All of them
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>>77909299
I see nothing too out there when a guy that can juggle cars easily slapping just a normal big guy around.
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>>77909422
>blind dude with naturally enhanced senses
>pre-cog with unnatural strength enhancements and perfectly good eyeset
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>>77909764
Doesn't spider sense only works when he's in danger? How would Wolverine trigger it?
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>>77911308
Wow, you are really out of the loop. Not a criticism, I'm just stunned by how far out you are.
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>>77924785
>>77924791
>Spider of Murder
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>>77927994
Who said anything about the spiders senses?

Check the second panel. He's sitting literally right outside the window.
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>>77922776
Back in Black
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>>77927517
Amazing Spider-Man has most of his stories, but there's also "Peter Parker IS: The Spectacular Spider-Man'
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We are posting SpiderMad? those moments are great.
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>>77909409
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>>77928835
Damnit, Bob... ;_;
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>>77927994
Spider-Sense reacts to what Peter considers 'bad'. It's been known to go off when someone is about to discover his identity, when people nearby are in trouble, and when someone dangerous is simply nearby
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>>77910565
Why are there 3 Franks?
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>>77922301
I wish they made a Jugg monthly. I'm not talking about the Thunderbolts, I'm talking about a pure Jugg only comic. I'd buy it.
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>>77909764
>Spider-Man loudly declaring which house is his during a fight
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>>77922220
>>77922301
>>77924113
related to these, does anyone know what juggs is up to these days?

I kinda thought him going straight was one of the most compelling parts of Austens xmen run
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>>77924791
fuggg....
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Mad Spidey thread?
Mad Spidey thread.
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>>77929165
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>>77929205
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>>77929226
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His heart is also apart of the badass moments.
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>>77928820
Why is Shocker a woman here?
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