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https://youtu.be/fis-9Zqu2Ro

please discuss inside

old trailers:
https://youtu.be/6as8ahAr1Uc
https://youtu.be/0WWzgGyAH6Y
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>>77900158
There are like 3 threads already senpai, wtf check the catalog
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>>77900201
m8...
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>>77900158
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Posting in sticky.

Trailer was a letdown.
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We can all agree its shit right?
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>>77900208
If a mod made the thread, then it's twice the offence.
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I am gay for Superman and Batman, feels good man.
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my dick is rock hard
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God Tier:
>Bruce and Clark interacting
>Batvoice
>Trinity Shot

Good Tier:
>Wondy's look

Meh Tier:
>Lex
>Quips

Shit Tier:
>Doomsday's look although he'll probably change later
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Trailer was exactly what it had to be
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It was shit and the movie will be shit.
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>>77900158
>Far more hyped for BvS than Civil War
>See this trailer
>Hype gets completely reversed in favor of CW

WARNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
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>>77900227
This, they should at least delete the dozen threads outside of the sticky.

But then again, they don't get paid to care.
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Trailer was comic book as fuck. So awesome. Wonder what fully spiked Doomsday will look like.
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>>77900158

gt mods. Maybe you'll get it on time for the 3rd trailer
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It was shit.
>batman with a gun
>autism lex
>kike woman showing up out of nowhere at end

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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>>77900244
All this

>Batvoice

Especially this.
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>>77900244
I agree with this. I think Doomsday will change how he looks as the fight progresses though.

I think the jokes are executive meddling.
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They're putting up a new Sticky and pruning the shit show you've all started.

Anyway, as far as 'why does Batman have a gun'. Its obviously going to be anti-Kryptonian tech which will also work on Zodoomsday.
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>>77900261
Im not sure hes a viable source to say doomsdays spikes growing is confirmed.
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trailer looks dumb
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>>77900257
They just did
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>>77900276
I really think it's just the graple gun. The same he uses to dodge the fuckhuge laser blast that obviously wasn't Superman's.
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>sticky


Marvel btfo
Robert manlet jr on suicide watch
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>>77900244
They need to get Hal or Barry or someone so they can get their quips quota and it doesn't seem as weird as it did. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are like the least quippy major superheroes.
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>>77900277
I think he just meant in general, thats how it works.
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>>77900158
>If I wanted it, you'd be dead already
I got a little wet.
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>>77900261
>Trailer was comic book as fuck

What?
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Lex knows.
Very possible Clark & Bruce both know too.
>but Clark asked who Bruce was
People really don't understand Clark Kent is playing his character here??
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>>77900277
He's been pretty on point with the BvS rumors thus far and has said he's read the script.
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>>77900244
This
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Sticky
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>Lex Luthor is DC's Ultron

Delicious.
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>>77900288
The grapple gun is pistol sized, that was a fucking assault rifle.
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>>77900288
its a sticky bomb and grenade launcher
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>>77900285
As usual, /co/ mods and janitors do a shit job.

>>77894323
>>77895378
>>77895659
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why the hell is this thread a sticky?
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PROS
> Ben is selling the shit out of his Bruce Wayne.
> Conversation between him and Clark is good.
> Love the alternate ground level shots of the destruction at the end of mos, hell raining down in broad day light, its astonishing!
> Diana looks more imposing alongside them than expected altho it might just be dew to her being upfront.
> Parademons!!!
> Thanking god they went with Doomsday instead of Bizarro, don't love ether character, but I HATE Bizarro outside of Forever Evil and Smallville.
MIXED ELEMENTS
> Not what I would have done with Lex... but for what he is doing I think it works, contrasting how serious everyone else is.
> I would have made Doomsday more spikey from the get go, maybe not in the face, but at least have some serious spikes coming from the shoulders and jawline. Otherwise he looks exactly like the comics...
CONS
> Wanted Diana to speak...
> Camera lingers on the 3 posing too long, starts getting just a tad silly as a result.
> I know they have a movie to sell, but I absolutely would have saved Doomsday for the theaters.
> I kinda wish they hadn't gone with Doomsday, as now I am getting generic block buster territory with it, were as Man of Steel felt better and beyond such in scope to me personally.
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>>77900158
>quips
I hope that what we've seen here are the only ones in the whole movie. One or two can help lighten a mood and ease tension, but we don't want them at Whedon-level.

I can see it being the case, actually. Execs probably cut this trailer together and hand-picked the most Marvel-like scenes to showcase, to get the "hurrr durrr grimdark DC" normies to feel less triggered.
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>>77900344
doomsday is a shit character anyways
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>>77900329
because there were several new threads and counting?
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>>77900344
>hating Bizarro

Shit taste
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>>77900344
>> I know they have a movie to sell, but I absolutely would have saved Doomsday for the theaters.
Same damn thing with the twist in Terminator Genesis!
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>>77900344
>Hating Bizarro
I have a place for your opinions
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>First trailer too dark, Marvel fans alienated
>Second trailer too light, DC fans alienated

These poor bastards are just trying to get all your asses in the seats, don't you understand.
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>>77900316
>I don't use guns
>this is a grenade launcher
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>>77900225
Not at all. I'm hopeful about the movie for the first time.
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THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!
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>>77900344
Thing is people were already hyped as fuck for BvS, they spoiled Doomsday for normies for literally no reason.
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>>77900366
Sorry I don't like campy parody characters faggot!
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>Lex is awful
>Batvoice is worse than Baleman
>godawful cgi
>WW looks retarded stronk wymin who don't need no man
>picking one of the worst characters in the history of comics as the villain
>the ham-fisted imagery is still a thing
>awful tryhard dialogue and humour
>doomsday looks like abomination /lotr cave troll, but worse


H-hype?
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>>77900277
Just like El Mayimbe wasn't a viable source when he said Doomsday was in BvS, right?
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I find it hilarious how Marvel-ish this trailer was in light of Snyder's derrogatory comments. I'm sure the movie will be the same taste as MoS, but still, the backtracking is delicious.
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>>77900344
Agree with those. But if Doomsday wasn't revealed they'd have no reason or excuse to show the three of them posing together.

Unless Diana breaks up their fight or something.
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>>77900158

Wait, that little Carrot Top lookin' dude is supposed to be Lex Luthor?
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>>77900381
I'm pretty confident its because the Avenger's trailer on Kimmel had a huge reaction, meanwhile fanboys melted down on twitter on Superman not being likable.
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What the fuck am i looking at?
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>>77900402
parademons or man-bats you pick
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>>77900263
>batman with a gun
Because Batman has never used a gun that shoots something other than lethal ammo, right? Hell, Batman has never used a gun that shoots lethal ammo in an nonlethal manner, right?
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>>77900395
They dont need an excuse, its a fucking trailer.
Just do a group shot of them and let people speculate what they're fighting.
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~WE'LL MAKE YOU A MOVIE THAT'S LONG AND IMMENSE~

~WAAAAAY HEYYYY SLOW THE PLOT DOWN~

~JUST GIVE US A SCRIPT THAT MAKES NO FRIGGIN' SENSE~

~WE'LL TRY SO HAAARD TO SLOOOW THE PLOT DOOOWN!~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc9ChlLKHJ0
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>>77900397
Nobody looks like Carrot Top, chill out.
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>>77900402
Parademons?
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>>77900402
Clearly Batman is an agent of Darkseid
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>>77900402
Supposedly a dream sequence. Those look like Parademons though, although maybe just Bruce's paranoia about an alien invasion.
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>>77900402
Another 20 minute long dream sequence.
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Trailer 1 is still better. Don't like the Doomsday reveal (or design) and the Marvel esque quips when WW shows up. Eisenberg Lex can literally fuck off.
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>>77900344
>but for what he is doing I think it works, contrasting how serious everyone else is.
Reposting my comment from the previous thread.
>Lex isn't being fedorable to your liking, quoting philosophies/ being dark & brooding.
But anon. I think he's going to be. He's just not going to be doing so in public where his behavior is perceived to develop a public image, he is clearly trying to shape. His playful sillyness at the party came off as completely different compared to
>You're psychotic
>That's just a three letter word for ideas to big for small minds
or
>If man won't kill god, then the devil will
The fedorable is coming. Anons (including yourself) are just taking this at face value, and assuming what you see is what you get. I really don't thing Eisenberg would be cumming all over himself about how good a character Lex is if it were just another version of Donner Lex, and if we're honest, the way Snyder abandonned the sacred cows of the Donnerverse, I really doubt that the one thing he'd salvage would be Donner Lex. If anything, Lex is just doing what Bruce does. Be the goofball in public to make any accusations that he is anything other than that preposterous to the public.
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>>77900217
-hh-
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>Oh man i like the new batman, he seems pretty decent
>Oh god yeah i forgot jesse was lex
>Those lines
Fuck this fucking movie
dropped
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>Clark is a famous journalist known for his opinions on Superman
>Absolutely no one makes the connection

Taking the glasses disguise a bit too far? Unlike in the comics Superman's face is likely very known to the public and they don't have the Superman robot excuse either.
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imma be honest that trailer sucked.
Also Moot is a terrible Lex
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>I want you to remember.
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>>77900397
It's Lex Luthor the 2nd.

Based on earth one Luthor
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>>77900395
>>77900415
Have you forgotten that the Avengers trailers got by on explosions and running long before the Chitauri were revealed?
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>"She with you?"
>"I thought she was with you."
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>>77900384

I really don't care about this points as I only want to see Batman and superman teaming up and wrecking Doomsdays shit and thanks to Snyder, I know it'll look amazing.
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>>77900467
Are you fucking dense. Bruce seemed to know.
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>>77900344
Agreed.
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>>77900476
Lex is Luthor Jr but that just means Lionel was renamed Luthor Sr.
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>2 stickies for one trailer

that hype tho
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>>77900494
this
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>>77900467
Clark doesn't write about Superman. He's a bottom-feeder.
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Pretty hype until the last few scenes.Trinity money shot felt rushed, they didn't even try to hide the green screen. Doomsday and WW were so unnecessary. The whole thing felt rushed together.
Snyder trailers are usually amazing, this was half Snyder half executive input. They probably saw people's reaction to Civil War and thought shoving in Doomsday and WW would build more hype. The movie was already more hype than CW, but this trailer really lowered my hype levels.
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>>77900493
I swear to God that has to be executive meddling. These fuck boys are trying to appeal to the Marvel crowd and pissing us off.
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>>77900261
I figured as much. I hope the fight is brutal.
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>Fart St
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>Marvel releases the best /co/ related trailer since MoS trailer
>one week later DC responds with the worst /co/ related trailer ever, even worse than f4ntastic
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>>77900344
>Camera lingers on the 3 posing too long, starts getting just a tad silly as a result.
I needed that. I wanted more honestly, but was happy with what I got. That was this trailer's Cap+Bucky vs Iron Man. Everything up until now had been Batman fighting Superman without any sign of how they would be towards one another after the fighting stopped. We got that, as well as the hero shot of the three of them standing together to stop the bad guy. It was the antidote to all of the bile and frustration and cynicism I've felt towards BvS since we started getting info about it. I feel like such an enormous weight has been lifted, and I can finally feel optimistic about it.
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>>77900493
>im here to help boys
>how do we know we can trust you?
>you dont
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>>77900244
And Batflex overall. I'm legit looking forward to his solo movies now.
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>>77900512
Yeah he does. Bruce specifically said you write a fluff piece. I think Bruce knows already that he is Superman.
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>>77900522
That must be where Tarantino lives.
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>>77900459
His acting just feels like he's supposed to be the Joker instead of Lex. If they didn't reveal Eisenberg's character, I'd completely assume he's supposed to be the Joker based on his mannerisms especially in the party with Bruce and Clark.
Before DCUcks get mad, this and Doomsday are my only problems from the trailer. Everything else seems hype.
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>>77900475
Live action Batman is finally imposing.
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So add one or two lighter scenes in the trailer and suddenly BvS is a quipfest? You do realise that trailers are literally cherrypicked right? The bits in the movie will flow together and won't feel as jarring.

It's not like the movie has changed at all between these two trailers, it's just that they've decided to market a different version of that movie between the trailers. Hell you could edit a Man of Steel quipfest trailer just using the few comedy scenes in that movie.
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>>77900261
why are you posting faraci?
You should be posting el mayimbe since he was the one who broke doomsday
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>>77900467

Daily Planet, Bruce and Lex know.
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>>77900295
Not as serious as Nolanbats and MoS, I assume? Probably what he meant.

I still much prefer the tone that the first trailer had. Felt serious without being up in it's own ass like Man of Steel or as grounded as the DK trilogy.
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>>77900499
Okay, that's one non-retard in the DC Universe.
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>>77900464

hyperbole

You're going to watch it and shitpost everyday for 2 years just like MOS>
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>>77900158
They really can't hold the camera still for any shot. Still hype, but a dialogue shot doesn't need jitter-cam.
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>>77900491

You mean the robots from the first movie? That's like saying they should hide the robot henchman from the second movie in the trailer? They are so not important.
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Clark must be an idiot in universe
How the fuck do you not know who Bruce Wayne is?
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>>77900588
I thought Snyder was going to drop it after MOS since he switched to handheld for it. It wasn't in 300 iirc.
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>>77900545
>His acting just feels like he's supposed to be the Joker instead of Lex.
That is a completely reasonable interpretation of his performance if I'm honest. Mine was more his taking stereotype socialite to 11, with a good part of fop thrown on top. His speaking with Holly Hunter and Lois came off very differently to me though, and that is why I think he is just wearing a public face to hide his true one, which we'll get much more of in the movie.
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>>77900518

WW and Doomsday both feel like last minute inclusions after that.

This trailer was just terrible all around.
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>>77900467
Clark isn't a famous journalist. He's a newbie.
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>>77900596
They were aliens and this one is a clone/monster
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>>77900557
Him and the dozens of other people who figured it would either be Doomsday or Bizarro, you mean
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>>77900381
>>77900400
I don't think normies really know Doomsday all that much compared to Zod or Lex. Yeah Death of Superman was a big deal when it happened, but everyone got over it pretty fast.
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>>77900513
>The movie was already more hype than CW

Eh, not really. It's about the same.

WB definitely tried to one-up Marvel with this, what with premiering it on Jimmy Kimmell one week after the CW trailer and packing it full of money shots, but it fell kinda short.

Then again, Marvel also had some marketing backlash with the "Meow" controversy.
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This is not okay, Bruce.
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>>77900344

Lex is good. Party Lex is funny and very obviously trying to manipulate Clark and Bruce, probably already knows who they are. Lex in private with Lois is full condescending and evil. I'm glad they are hiding bald lex/power armor lex tho. Also it's pretty hard to take you seriously if you hate on Bizarro.
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>>77900571
Hey autist by that logic the comics make no sense. Stop trying to put real world constraints on a fucking comic book movie.

Next you're gonna ask who made the Batsuit in universe.
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>>77900600
Too busy fellating himself in his articles to care about some retired rich faggot
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>>77900606
It feels like he's playing Zuckerberg at 11.
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>>77900535
"You" as in "Daily Planet", not "you" as in "Clark Kent".
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I'm now worried this will actually be worse than MoS.
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>>77900645
What's the evidence for power armor?
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>>77900606
I just wanted an arrogant Lex laugh like muh cartoons. Now I know I'm gonna get a Joker-esque one. Still gonna watch the movie though.
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>>77900624

Whats your point? Everyone knew Zod was going to be transformed into Bizarro or Doomsday months ago you pleb.

Also Marvel villains are shit tier apart from Netflix.
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>>77900344
>hating bizarro
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>>77900349
>Whedon level
no one is on his level when it comes to quipitude
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I mean, everyone could predict that Bats and Supes would stop fighting to take care of bigger threat, but one thing is to predict something and the other is to show this in trailer. Watching "Batman vs Superman" fight will be pretty emotionless because of that, there will be no winner. I just don't get it why they showed this in trailer.
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>>77900384
>>godawful cgi
CG is one of the final things done in a movie. It's clearly unfinished.
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>>77900645

What? Lex's dialogue was godawful cringe in this trailer.
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>>77900674
Snyder and actors have confirmed there is absolutely a "winner".
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>>77900660

Comic book history, toy merchandise for the movie, Zod's power armor looking so similar to Lex's armor in MOS, the fact that Lex is in the movie etc.
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>>77900655
Naw man I think he meant you as in Clark Kent.

Lois figured this out in universe and Bruce seemed really hostile. He knows.
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>>77900645
>>77900689

"It's okay when Warner Brothers does it!"
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>>77900647
The comics have the excuses of super robots and Superman never getting his face exposed because he was constantly zipping about.

Cinematic Supes doesn't have these excuses. Clark's acting isn't even any different here, he's still an alpha pretty boi.
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>>77900689

Has a sense of humor but also very clearly knows the heroes identities. Later is very creepy with Lois.

Will probably lose his hair and put on power armor when he finds out Batman and Doomsday couldn't do the job of fucking Supes.
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>>77900158
I fucking love Cavill's voice for Superman/Clark.

And actually, Affleck's Bat-voice was top notch. Although anything would seem brilliant compared to Christian "WHERE IS HE" Bale
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>>77900690

is superman going to cripple batman so he'll stop following him around?
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>>77900692
>toy merchandise for the movie

Oh that's the big one. Though MOS toys did have Zodbots in the Smallville fight and Ant-Man toys had Pym suiting up besides Lang.
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>>77900707
It's a comic book movie. They don't need any "excuses" besides that. Stop being an autist.
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>>77900629
I think the main problem is that this movie is shaping up to be more predictable. Doomsday was said to be the boss monster of the sequel almost immediately after Man of Steel came out. I didn't even watch the trailer until just now and I still predicted half the things they'd do in it with reasonable accuracy.

Having said that though? I like this trailer for showing off the entire movie. Because while it sucks, it's better than getting another bait and switch trailer like we had for Man of Steel. This seems like it'll be much more reflective of the final product and that's to be commended.
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>>77900652
When? At the party or talking with the ladies? Because talking with the ladies, I'd agree, with a heavy dose of sociopath tossed in.
>>77900666
>You're psychotic
>That's just a three letter word for ideas to big for small minds
I don't think you have anything to worry about anon. Seems to me you're going to get arrogance. I think people are trying to compare party Eisenberg to Executive office DCAU Lex, when if they were going to compare him to anything it should be public figure Lex in the Cap Marvel v Superman episode, where he is posturing like he's just trying to help people and is putting on a good face while the cameras are all on.
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>>77900606
I think you're on the money there, Lex either knows Clark's and/or identities or loathes them both enough to want to fuck with them. Perhaps we will see a transition from this persona to obsessive, condescending prick we all know and love. Seems to be leaning more towards the classic mad scientist Lex than the businessman.
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>>77900629
>Then again, Marvel also had some marketing backlash with the "Meow" controversy.
Isn't that mostly on EW though?
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>>77900730

There is no "Zodbot" MOS toy. I don't know anything about Disney toys so can't talk to you about that.
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They want Lex to be popular with the girls, that's why he is how he is.
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Is Joker supposed to turn up in this?
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>prep god just sitting there waiting to die

Bravo Nolan
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>>77900622
When Bruce Wayne himself knows about what you're writing you probably aren't some low key guy.
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>Critics bitched to high hell for BvS presenting itself to be Dark & Moody
>Critics bitched some more when BvS presented levity and balance in it's latest trailer

Just come out with it, you're never going to be happy.

>MUH LEX
>literally bitching about Lex acting out in a fucking party trying break the tension between 2 faggots getting triggered someone said something mean about their man crushes.

Swear if that scene was written by someone from here, Lex would be some /r9k/ faggot being Dark & brooding while quoting philosophies at his own party. But then I guess I shouldn't expect much from people on /co/ that were probably never invited to parties.
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>>77900566
But comics can be serious.
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>>77900735

I'm glad Lex is mad scientist in private and jokey tech billionaire at parties.
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I don't understand being autistic over Lex starting out as a wily ginger and evolving into a wasted and wounded skinhead with brain cancer. If you do then maybe you should take your fake ass back to Youtube?
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>>77900764

His prep is that Wonder Woman exists.
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I think that the main problem with Lex isn't really the dialogue, but rather the actor.
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>>77900690
My money goes to "people", "Earth", "justice" or somethng like that
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Reminder to watch the non-executive fucked version of the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMVugzohlwA
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If they eventually go for Darkseid, people will inevitably make stupid comparisons to MCU Thanos.
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>>77900769

I was just thinking the same thing.

>This is the most lucid post in this thread
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>>77900731

Yeah man, you just gotta turn your brain off and enjoy the flick! Just like those Michael Bay movies. :)
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>>77900769
>>MUH LEX
>>literally bitching about Lex acting out in a fucking party trying break the tension between 2 faggots getting triggered someone said something mean about their man crushes.
Honestly when you word it like that it sounds way more like something classic Bruce Wayne should be doing. Acting foolish in order to distract people and keep shit from popping off, while the audience knows he's actually a genius and a bad-ass.

So now I have to wonder if they just swapped the names around.
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>>77900765
Its one of two possible scenarios. Its supposed to be like 2 years later, Clark could already be like right up there that he'll have Pulitzer...and still ask how many Fs are in catastrophic.
Or Bruce is really that good.
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>>77900635
>funding cuts to water board
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>>77900737
Yeah, but it caused them Internet Trouble.
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>>77900765
Bruce Wayne knows Daily Planet, that's it.
Clark doesn't even know who Bruce Wayne is. Also other journalists saying "you must be new here". If he was a famous journalist, even if he didn't know who Wayne was, that wouldn't have been their response.
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>>77900791
There seems to be a lot of assumptions of characters getting better in this movie.
We're just going off what we see anon.
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lmao what the fuck was that trailer
what is even going on in this universe?
what the fuck was with zod's body?
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>>77900769
>2 faggots getting triggered someone said something mean about their man crushes.
>Implying Bruce and Clark just weren't angry about how aroused they made each other
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>>77900722
>Catty fuccboi
>very creepy
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>>77900844
It's just a little airborne. It's still good! It's still good!
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>>77900805

This trailer was worse. You are an amateur. Glad you don't work in the industry.
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>>77900818
If you are too retarded to not ask questions like "Why doesn't anyone know who Superman is?" In a comic book movie your brain is clearly already turned off.
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>>77900846
He was turned into the Doomsday.
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>>77900846
Are you retarded?
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>>77900791

perhaps it's because he looks like a kid with way too much time on his hands going up against a much older sups and bats?

why the fuck did they cast him so young?
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>>77900846

>Marvel babies everyone
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>>77900734
>If man won't kill God. The devil will do it
That's honestly the only delivery I liked. Everything else, even your quote, is too Joker-esque. The lines themselves seem like something Lex would say, but the delivery is what throws me off. The party ones make me cringe too much. The "grip" quip feels like it could've used a retake. The one I quoted above gives me hope though.
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>>77900566
This trailer just comes across awkwardly. The stand-alone scenes are fine, but it's painfully obvious where the executives mandated scenes to be cut together to look like something else, basically everything with them in costume past the halfway point. The end result is quite cheesy. I refuse to believe that they buckled that hard to pander to the "muh fun" crowd.

>>77900600
He grew up in Kansas, spend years travelling the world, and by the point he became a Journalist, Wayne was out of the public eye. It's also possible he knows the name, but simply doesn't know what he looks like.
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>>77900635
What a shitty newspaper, no wonder Bruce reads the Daily Planet instead
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>>77900513
>this delusion

They didn't make this trailer within the last week. These things have to be approved by the MPAA. It was probably cut at least a month ago.
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>>77900877
im a little retarded from huffing paint my whole life but not as retarded as that trailer
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>>77900862

You don't know what a fuccboi is do you?
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So.....
Did anyone get a good look at Doomsday's hands?
Did they look like flippers?
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>>77900635

2015-2016... Do Americans really read newspapers that much? Shouldn't that be in a phone or something like that?
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>>77900735
>Seems to be leaning more towards the classic mad scientist Lex than the businessman.
Well, I can understand you thinking so, but let us not forget that from the get go he runs Lexcorp Inc, so he is clearly a businessman. His turning Zod's corpse into Doomsday though definitely earns him mad scientist points though.
>Perhaps we will see a transition from this persona to obsessive, condescending prick we all know and love.
While he may not be obsessive yet, I cannot stress how much his response to Lois's comment illustrated to me that he is already condescending. It just seems to me that he is smart enough to know that there are things you say in front of a crowd, and things you don't. He can be a condescending prick in the boardroom, or in R&D. If Steve Jobs and Zuckerberg were, you know Lex Luthor can and will be. Steve didn't insult Apple customers though even though he almost certainly saw himself as superior to them, and Lex would know not to do this as well, because let us not forget that he is also a businessman. If he is the face of Lexcorp, he needs to present himself in public as representative of his company, and that means he needs to be warm and friendly, and not a dick, which to me matches up with how he came off at the party.
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>>77900820
That's what I always thought he did in TDK. with crashing his Lamborghini to save Gordon, & then we have Bruce making an entrance to a party by Helicopter over an event that wasn't even about him totting along with a Russian Ballerina whore and 2 other skanks, but yet here we are, bitching Lex does it.

The dissonance of anons in this thread is fucking maddening.

>It's okay when Bruce does it.
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>>77900888

So that he's not taken seriously by the heroes until it's too late. Think about it. If they had any idea what he was up to, it never would've come to pass. This isn't going to be some Ozymandias-esque "I did it 30 minutes ago" situation.
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>>77900316
that's not the same gun
the gun batman is carrying in the trailer looks like an assault rifle
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>>77900888
>why the fuck did they cast him so young?
To parallel his nemesis Supes. Makes sense to me. Instead you get an older Batman.
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>>77900244
100% agree. Still hyped for it despite da spoilers.
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>>77900417
Oh, so you've seen it already?
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>>77900841
>that belt buckle
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Lex is currently not looking promising. However there is a small glimmer of hope that we see his decent into the Lex we know, possibly due to kryptonite cancer. But fuck we need better line delivery
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>>77900158
That's Han Solo's grin.
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Why did it have to turn out like this...
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>>77900876
>>77900910
Yeah what happens supposedly is Lex actually revives Zod ala Frankenstein, so hes still a little fucked up from the fight. He starts actually all Bizarro and speaking weird. He destroys the lab and flys off to find Superman, either thinking he's still in the fight or wants revenge. He then mutates in Oomsday.
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DOOMSDAY is such a shit character they literally just gave him dinosaur voice
What a waste
Why not just make a good final act about stopping lex.
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>>77900694
>Naw man I think he meant you as in Clark Kent.
No. He didn't. The statement was prefaced with "The Daily Planet" as the subject of conversation.
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>>77900550
/co/ is beyond retarded. They couldn't even decipher simple trailer editing meant to mislead, which it seemed to succeed in doing.
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Uh, don't you just hate contemporary art?
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>>77900402
it appears batman is having a nightmare about parademons and super gestapo
odd that they are helping him
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>>77900959
Through another doomsday device? Through a tech virus or some shit?
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>>77900892
>The "grip" quip feels like it could've used a retake.
I was too focused on what that meant to be concerned with the delivery. Bruce got under Clark's skin. So much so that Clark clearly wasn't careful while shaking Lex's hand. Even as a Supes before Bats fan, I liked that.
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Getting Hype for this and Civil War

As for Doomsday, I'm pretty sure he's going to grow spike protrusions as the fight goes on.

Reactive Adaptation/Evolution is his entire shtick - and I'm amazed that /co/ of ALL people has apparently lost sight of that.
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>>77900959
>Why not just make a good final act about stopping lex.
Because you need to be able to reuse Lex, which means you can't kill him. And you need a big action-y finale because all pretensions aside this is still a cape movie.
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just 3 minutes trailer and they said they saw the whole movie. no one confirmed its Doom. This is a good trailer for me, I do not understand why people say the trailer show too much, I think they are comic fans , so they know all , it is ridiculous
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>>77900959

Doomsday basically was the t-rex of prehistoric krypton.
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>>77900964
That doesn't mean anything. If he was referring to the Daily Planet he would have said "you guys". Clark is the one writing all the Superman stories.
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>>77900919
>>77900735
Lex was pretty much the epitome of capitalism's wrongs before he evolved into a mad scientist with power armor and alien tech.
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>>77900158
Not very impressed at the design that they choose for Doomsday.
Could've added more spikes (specifically coming out of his jaw) and been more creative with the concept.
To me, he just looks like a fusion between Raph from the 2014 MB TMNT film and the troll from The Fellowship of the Ring.

I at least expect for Doomsday to evolve or shift his form as the film progresses.
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>DC shitposters spend the entire year praising MoS as a misunderstood masterpiece and deriding MCU/Fox as empty spectacle or quipfests
>BvS is a spectacle-driven movie with quips
>They're already blaming executive meddling and going "m-maybe they'll fix it in editing"

Oh, I am laughing.

Movie looks pretty dope, tho.
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>>77900990
After that scientist killed all those babies again and again.
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>>77900901
>Funding Cuts to Water Board
>Testing put on hold as money DRIES up
Whedon writes for Gotham Free Press
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>>77900982

Remember no one on /co/ reads comics.
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>>77900764
>implying this isn't just a cobbled-together mess of cuts made to look like a scene that doesn't actually happen in the movie.
You're dumb.
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>>77900968
>literally patriarchy
>literally fatshaming
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>>77900769
Well that's how they marketed the movie and shit on marvel for the better part of 2 years before they bit the bullet and put jokes in because we need the casual audience to keep up
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>>77900967
Kind of like how a week ago /co/ was beyond retarded for thinking they'd shove Doomsday into this movie at all.

At this point we should stop trying to act like the movie will be terrible or spectacular and just let it come out. Getting all this headcanon hype for or against going only makes it harder to change your mind later.
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>>77901001
>>BvS is a spectacle-driven movie with quips
2 lines doesn't mean it's filled with quips.
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>>77900982
Dude /tv/ is in full force here right now and they are a bunch of retards that don't know anything.
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>>77900991
>If he was referring to the Daily Planet he would have said "you guys"
You do realize Bruce Wayne speaks proper English? He's not some street kid.
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>>77900927
I don't know what you think an assault rifle is but that's not the case. And Batman with a gun isn't something new. Besides, its not like it's constantly being used and he's not going to do jack against Doomsday.
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Did they really have to go with the Lex created DD route? couldnt they stick with DD being a dormant predator from krypton? probably something Zod intended to release on earth just in case he fails?
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>>77900158
Can we talk about this? Pretty much a nuke.
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>>77900982
>I'm amazed that /co/ of ALL people has apparently lost sight of that.

its easier to understand once you realize the /tv/ invasion is real.
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>>77900957
Good?
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guize guize, what if Doomsday is just one of the final villains along with Armored Lex and Metallo ?
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>>77900984
> I do not understand why people say the trailer show too much, I think they are comic fans , so they know all , it is ridiculous
This, most people aren't going to know who the trinity are fighting at the end of the trailer.
Much less the fact that Doomsday adapts to the situation at hand.
/co/ keeps forgetting that they're not the target audience for these things.
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>>77900158
>I wouldn't pick a fight with this guy
>I thought she was with you
There are quips in this movie. Actual quips. Pic related is my reaction.
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>>77901001

I liked MOS. I'll probably like BvS. I like Marvel Netflix, DC CW and Fox Xmen. Probably will continue to do so. Don't really enjoy MCU but I watch them anyway. Probably will steal CW online.
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>>77900925

this is exactly like the ozymandias miscast in the watchmen movie.

trying to make him look much younger so he doesn't seem like a threat when the audience can see it coming a mile away.

it's just dumb and ruins the character for fans and newcomers.
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>>77901027
Who gives a fuck about how Doomsday is Doomsday? Get more Shannon this way.
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>>77901001
It has about the same amount of quips as the Nolan Batman films, I don't know why people say DC movies don't have any.
Remember these?
>Maybe you should read the manual first
>What about the lamborghini sir?
>Nice coat!
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>>77901027
>couldnt they stick with DD being a dormant predator from krypton

That was always retarded
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>>77901027
that looks so much better too
pathetic that hollywood paid people to make that mess on top
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>>77900380
DCEU Superman really isn't the all-powerful God everyone calls him. Remember how much trouble he had with the oil rig? He's strong but not Silver Age strong, and not lift-an-island-made-of-Kryptonite-strong.

He can be hurt, it just takes a lot more effort. That, plus he's holding back probably.
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>>77900244
Can we add Superman to god tier? Those shots of him saving the rocket and the flooded people were amazing.
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>>77901038
Why is only the superhero movie genre expected to have quips?
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>>77901027
Damn that looks a lot better.
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>>77900277
Faraci has been pretty on-point with his BvS scoops. Here's all of them, BTW.

>BATMAN V SUPERMAN opens with Batman's origin and fast forwards to Bruce Wayne coming to Metropolis during the Superman/Zod fight, but that's just setting the stage for that character. From there the script turns its attention to Superman heavily, and it examines the implications of Superman in the real world. The main action takes place a couple of years after the end of MAN OF STEEL, and Superman has been busy in the meantime, becoming the hero we know and love. Clark Kent and Lois Lane have moved their relationship forward to the point where they live together. Clark is still working at the Daily Planet, although it's unclear if he's loving his assignments - he's tasked with covering a Metropolis/Gotham football game when he would rather be writing about Batman.

>Very early in the film Lois is in the Middle East following a story when Superman shows up to help her out. This becomes something of an international incident as other nations view Superman as a tool of the United States. China, for instance, doesn't want him in their air space. It's an interesting look at how a being like Superman would be viewed on a global scale. Superman is no lackey of the government; if anything many of the world's governments distrust the guy. But it is Superman who goes to Gotham and starts the confrontation... at the behest of Lex Luthor. And unlike "The Dark Knight Returns", Superman comes out swinging, pulverizing the Batmobile with one punch. Why would Superman do Lex Luthor's bidding? What is Lex hoping to accomplish? That would be spoiling. But know that when the fight is over, Batman will be able to point to Superman and say, "He started it!"

>Aquaman is barely present, showing up only in a survey of metahumans by Lex Luthor and then again at the very ending, when Batman recruits him for the Justice League. Flash and Cyborg are also just small roles.
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>>77901036
The movie is already cluttered enough with Wonder Skeleton being shoehorned in.
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>>77901036
make Metallo Cyber-Zod too
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>>77900276
Except not
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>>77901054
he's getting pushed back by a minigun too
He's just invulnerable in universe
He has a set strength limit in this universe
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>>77901030
>>77901021
Why is /tv/ even here? Don't they have an entire board to shit up?

It's almost as bad as the /tv/ /pol/ invasion that came with Jessica Jones and Luke Cage.

>>77901027
Who even gives a shit where he comes from? Doomsday was never prided for his origin. It's the fact that he's a monstrous murder machine that people remember about him.

His origin means jack shit.
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>>77901063
>Doomsday is in the movie, created by Lex Luthor while experimenting with General Zod's corpse, which is under military custody.

>When Superman confronts a big bad guy and unravels his plot, he tells the villain, "I won't snap your neck, I'm going to take you to prison," an on-the-nose response to criticisms of the first movie. Of course Superman later loses his cool and threatens to break the bad guy's back, so he hasn't quite internalized everything yet. As for being a protector of the people - when the Doomsday fight starts General Swanwick tells the military that Superman will move the battle away from populated areas because he's a hero, and that's what heroes do. Again, this is a direct response to complaints about the first film. It's also interesting to see that Swanwick, who was tracking Superman with drones at the end of MAN OF STEEL, is such a supporter in this film. It seems that most people - except Lex Luthor and a cautious Batman, who is prepping anti-Superman weapons - believe Superman is a hero.

>As for Batman, he's on the end of his run and perhaps on the end of his life, and has already laid one of his fiercest supporters to rest: Commissioner James Gordon is dead by the time BATMAN V SUPERMAN starts.
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>>77901030
>>77901021
Yeah what the Fuck is up with /tv/? Its mostly star wars, bane posting, and shit posting over there. And now its bled over here like a damn plague
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>>77900381
not that bad of a spoiler desu, I don't know anything about this (as in why the fuck should batman fight superman, he will lose so I don't really give a fuck about the movie either). But now I understand where this is going and I'm hyped for it. It's not rewarding for loyal fan I guess.
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>>77901041
are you me or am I you?
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>>77900968
So, I'm just realizing this, but did the attack site get turned into Centennial Park?
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>>77901043
It's actually worse than Ozymandias.
Because no one knew who the fuck Ozymandias was except us comic book nerds.
Whereas Lex Luthor routinely makes it onto "Top 10 Super Villains" lists. No one is going into this thinking he's going to be some kind of innocent or harmless nice guy.
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>>77901027
top looks like an exposed, confused juvenile monster

bottom looks like the final boss form the final installment of the franchise looking at them puny motherfuckers
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>>77900981
I'm glad we had this discussion, anon. That's a good takeaway from that scene. I still didn't like Eisenberg's delivery though
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>>77900991
>If he was referring to the Daily Planet he would have said "you guys"
No. That sounds unprofessional. "You" can be, and often is used to denote an entire organization that one person belongs to. If he wanted to stress Clark, specifically, "you" would have been spoken with a different intonation, or he would have said "you, specifically".

In all honestly, it technically could go either way, but given the context, the smart assumption is that he is referring to the Daily Planet and not specifically Clark. Lern 2 English.
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>>77901027
Request: darken the spines and de-red the eyes.
>>77901043
Oh yeah, well its classic lex. To the public he's this great benefactor on his way to becoming president. To the heroes and villains, everyone knows his true colors. The audience already knows Lex as a villain, thats why so many of these guys "can see it a mile away." Remember, comic readers aren't the main audience. its the normies.
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Is Kane forgiven?
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>>77901049
MoS was DC's only movie truly devoid of humor, which Snyder celebrated as these movies are supposed to be about the "human experience" or whatever.
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Shills are out in full force I see.
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>>77900765
Bruce never referred to Clark specifically. He was talking about the Daily Planet.

Doesn't mean Clark hasn't got some notoriety. Lex said his name like he knew him.
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>>77901029
I think it's interesting that in the first trailer it was the Wonder Bracer bash, but then in here it's Doomsday's laser hitting Wondie's shield.

Could it turn out to be a different thing entirely?
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>>77901049

Well, the simple answer is that certain people posting on /co/ are just trying to get a rise/reaction out of other posters, and are able to do via hyperbole, misleading statements, straight-out falsehoods, or logical fallacies, with no risk to their reputations due to the anonymous nature of 4chan.
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>>77900981
That's a really solid point
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>>77901041
You are me
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Why is he so cute, /co/?
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>>77901066
well, they showed kryptonite in the last trailer and Jimmy will have cyborg legs (for what purpose other than to show that there is advanced tech in this universe?).
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People are thinking they revealed Doomsday and Wonder Woman (As if people didnt know about WW already) this early because there's gonna be another surprise major player

Who could it be? Jason Todd robin is dead because this is the death in the family continuity right?

And joker is dead?

What if Red Hood is in the movie?
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>>77901116
>Lex said his name like he knew him.
Wouldn't be surprised if Clark was one of the few journalists that suspects him of being less-than-perfect, and Luthor is probably acutely aware of anyone who may do anything to tarnish his public image.
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>>77901027
doomsday is a shit character anyways, who cares about his origin, as long as he is a big guy and destroys stuff its all good
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>>77901027
Answers the question of what happened to Zod's corpse so they don't have to retread on that ever again, showcases what Lex is capable of for future films and gives the trinity a worthy first opponent that makes for a satisfying and climactic ending. I think it works in a lot of ways. Butt that's just me.
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>>77901134
Red Hood is the solo Batman movie, he has no place in a Justice League film
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>>77901043
>>77901093

ozymandias wasn't really a miscast.

it's just that his actor was terrible in showing him to be the villain early on and it took away from the reveal.
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>>77901043

I actually really liked Ozy in the movie. It was fucking obvious he was behind it all, but I thought he was portrayed pretty damn well.
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3c5kmi/potential_spoilers_a_detailed_plot_of_batman_v?sort=top
>mfw its all true
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>>77901079
>Dead Gordon
>"I won't snap your neck"

PLEASE NO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>77901134
Batman is at the end of his career in this movie. Presumably most if not all of his rogues are dead/imprisoned. Also shoving in a bat rogue for the big surprise would be wildly out of nowhere since this is basically MoS 2.
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>>77901134
Could it be possible that the Doomsday fight happens BEFORE the Batman vs Superman fight?
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Seems alright. Wondy still feels like the third wheel, though. I can easily see it going the way of Spider-Man 3 with how cluttered it might be.

As long as it ends with Worlds Finest though I think it will be decent.
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>>77901027
>Did they really have to go with the Lex created DD route?
Two things.
Lex's digging is what originally freed Doomsday in DoS, so in that regard Lex is tied to Doomsday's origin.
As someone not too big on Superman killing Zod, even though this doesn't bring him back to life, it does remove him from being dead. While Doomsday has only ever been stopped by being killed in stories of significance, Lex fuckery being part of the equation makes it a much more tolerable pill to swallow for me.
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>>77901134
Flash, Aquaman, pre-Cyborg.
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>>77900635
Does Bats do this to all the criminals he catches? Do they get extra beatings in jail for this?
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>>77901134
Aquaman
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>>77901134
>Aquaman
>Cyborg
>Lex Bald
>Lex Armor
>Joker
>The Flash
>Darkseid

There are lots of "surprise" possibilities still. Trailer seems like it gave away a lot, but easily could not be the case..
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>>77901049
This.

Plus, quips out of context are always the worst. It's clear they just jammed this trailer together out of random action scenes to make it look more exciting.
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people pls T_T stop bitching around , there is still to come in this movie . they didn`t showed aquamen,the flash,green lanter in the trailers.besides that what do you expect?batman and superman fight till one kill eachother?cuz there would be no JL if that happens xD
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>>77901073
>Why is /tv/ even here? Don't they have an entire board to shit up?

they can't discuss capeshit on /tv/ as /tv/ has even a lower opinion on capshit, cartoons and comics in general, every thread is gonna get shit on to no end. Then again they come here to discuss capeshit but as they may like some series and movies but that doesn't mean, they aren't shitposters themself.

How else do you think baneposting found its way here?
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>>77901174
mind=blown
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>>77900805
Holy crap. Tension, and pacing resulting in spectacle. Our heartiest contraflibularities.
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This is gonna make millions based on the title but is there ANY chance WB pulls the plug after the 8% on Rotten Tomatoes and the overwhelming negative reactions? I get that they had to keep barreling forward after MoS and chose to focus on the good but there's gonna be no excuses for this one.

I really don't want to see the New Gods get raped by Snyder.
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>>77901196
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>>77900158
What was the deal with all those quips? Tsujihara promised me DC would be dark
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>>77901128
I like him so much better outside of costume.
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>>77901116
Lex isn't really a detective, but hes a genius. if someone smart were to try to figure out Superman's identity:
He likely has a good amount of guilt, so he will stay around Metropolis and try to help rebuild.
He would therefore buy a house, register a car, normal people stuff. So look in the public records for people that showed up in the Gotham Metropolis area AFTER the fight.
Or tail Lois Lane, who seems to be very close to him. See this guy living with her, going on dates with her. Try to find public records, oh he just showed up in Metropolis. Tail him.
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>>77901049
>>77901195
Has anyone here ever seen a trailer these days? It's pretty much a standard end trailers with some funny note and then just cut to a action clip.
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I skipped MoS but this looks entertaining. Is MoS necessary? I've seen enough memes to be familiar with the plot.
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>>77901134
I really doubt it. The only thing they could throw in is Aquaman, as he's already cast and has his design.

It's rather a trailer to get the general public up to speed, show some more action, and ramp up the hype to maximum.

It works because "Casuals" will have no idea who Doomsday is. Also, because he doesn't YET (emphasis on YET) have his spike protrusions - people definitely won't know who he is.

People may argue that it's showing to much - but these trailers are designed for Casuals, not hardcore fans and comic connoisseurs who will dissect every little notable thing with screencaps the MOMENT it releases.

In other words the trailer is perfectly fine, we're just doing what we normally do - overthinking and reading too much into a movie that isn't even out yet.
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>>77901145
My major gripe is that they blew their load with Doomsday too early.

He could have easily been Bizarro, or Metallo, or Parasite, or really any other big player that still had the whole "Lex created him" angle to it if they really wanted to go in that direction. Doomsday is supposed to be Superman's final boss, the one that finally manages to take him down. Him showing up in the second movie as a Lex pawn is kind of lame.
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Will Bruce bring up how Supes destroyed more of Metropolis then the invaders?
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>>77900917
Newspapers are still very common here, but yeah I'd still prefer that to be on a phone
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>>77900158
noice

worry they've played their hand too early but we'll see
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>Batman holding a gun?! That's out of character!
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>>77901190
>>Aquaman
>>Cyborg
These are confirmed, right?
>>Lex Bald
Also likely to happen in this movie.
>>Lex Armor
Maybe a reference to it, but no way they'll show him use it now.
>>Joker
>>The Flash
These are the only ones I'm iffy about. An allusion to Joker sure, but they'll save his actual first appearance in SS. And Flash I just don't see happening.
>>Darkseid
The dream sequence already has parademons so he's basically confirmed.
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>>77901247

I haven't seen anyone buying and/or reading Newspapers for years now. I was just wondering. But yeah, if newspapers are still common there, they'll use that.
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For all the "quips look terrible" posters..
>A little fight in you... I like that.
>-Then you're gonna love me!
>"THIS SOUNDS SO STUPID!"
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>>77901212

>Guys... I think we found our Justice League director!

- Soon to be unemployed WB exec
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>>77901171
Pls respond
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>>77901230
MoS just sets up the fact that Superman exists, that he kills Zod and is controversial in the public eye. Other then that, it is all very much new information.
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>>77901258

>no way they'll show him use it now

Whatever you say.
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>>77901230
>Is MoS necessary?
They no doubt sum up MoS in the beginning of the movie.
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>>77901258
>Aquaman and Cyborg
Cameos are 100% confirmed
>Lex Bald
We've already seen a pic of Eisenberg without hair
>The Flash
A cameo is rumoured
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>>77901257
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>>77901257
There's also technically a cowboy version of Batman if you are retarded enough to look. Does that mean it'd be fine to have him wear a sombrero the in the film? There's a modern and definitive version of the character, which is very anti-gun.
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Some other stuff from Faraci.

>The script is good, but is also very cliched. There are no big surprises left once you figure out Doomsday's role is, and the fun is seeing in what other everything plays out.

>Superman's characterization hasn't changed from MoS. He's still a sullen man of few worlds who rescues people, but without that kind of warm approach comics' Superman has.

>JUSTICE LEAGUE is assembled by Batman in the end. Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg shown recruited. No Green Lantern.
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>>77901128
He's basically just a normal dude, the kind that just wants to stay at home and play Fallout, but he's just 100 times better looking than us.

Cavill is literally an amazing person.

>>77901134
Yeah Jason is dead, but I expect him for the next Batman solo. There's no reason to introduce him years before there's even a movie to feature him in, since we still have the JL movies before Batman.

We'll most likely get Victor (Cyborg) and Aquaman cameos. Maybe Flash, but I'm not sure on that one.
I still hope to Superman that we'll get a Dick Grayson reveal as either Nightwing or Agent 37 in either this or Suicide Squad.
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>>77901171
No, because why would B v S after they're buddies
Super buddies. Against Ooomsday
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>>77901258
Except he does use it to stop Doomsday. He's the "savior". Trinity can't just lock him up.
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>>77901217
Literally 2 moments of levity which worked in the context of what was happening. Apart from that the movie was dark as fuck
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>>77901268
>Then you're gonna love me!

It's okay when Jack Nicholson does it!
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I get a grappling hook, but ever since just after those early comics, Batman has taken a very anti-gun stance. He didn't want to sensationalise the tools which destroyed his life.
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>>77901242
Doomsday's only notable feat is killing Superman.
He is an unstopapble killing machine - but besides that he doesn't have much depth as a villain.

Darkseid is far more powerful - but he's iconic because of his relationship with Superman and the rest of the JL as well as the New Gods.

Also, this isn't a Superman Movie, it's not going to have one of Superman's specific rogues (not that casuals will know most of them anyway).

Mongul, Parasite, hell even Metallo would be far better threats for a solo Superman movie because they add that extra element of personal animosity towards Superman.

Doomsday is a monster who has a genetic predisposition towards senseless murder, he's dangerous and threatening, but he's not "terrifying" or "unnerving" if that makes sense.
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>>77901302
AH i was just thinking this. So that super explosion or what if he drops a bomb or uses the suit or Metallo or whatever to capture Doomsday. During the fight, he fucks up the city a bit. Now hes just like Superman, but a mortal. Now they're on the same level.
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>>77901268
I think it's mroe of the way the trailer was edited that made the quips feel forced.
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Loved this line
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>>77901325
JLA would probably have Darkseid as an opponent, not a Batman v Superman movie
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>>77901166
sounds cool. thanks
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>>77901288
He was shilling Fallout 4 pretty hard, I wonder what waifu he made
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>>77901287

>but without that kind of warm approach comics' Superman has

See this is whats missing. Superman should be saying shit like "Hey guys, how about a change of pace, lets go get milkshakes in metropolis, I know a place that does them so thick you have to eat them with a spoon!" to the rest of the cast and trying to get batman to lighten up and stuff.

Not all moody 24/7 because "muh earth dad muh tornado muh zod"

>No Green Lantern

rekt
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>>77901318
No he hasn't. He uses guns whenever necessary. He doesn't kill, is all. He prefers to avoid guns because he feels it's the weak way out.
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>>77901288
>Cavill is literally an amazing person.
too bad he's a shit actor
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>>77901257
Two of those are bullshit electronic guns and ones a grapnel gun

It does make me wonder if the gun he has facing off against Doomsday has a cool gimmick tho
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>>77901212
Except Fantastic 4 got 10% out of blisteringly incompetence and failure on every fiber of the production, Mos and this are not incompetently made in almost any area, mos just did not take courses of action story wise and tone wise that a large portion of the audience wanted to see happen.
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>>77901325

Who is that one with the crystals in his body? A healed Metalo?
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>>77901337
i think we can all agree that the trailer was edited horribly
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>>77901357
>>77901287
They stressed his alien heritage in MoS a lot and still seems to in BvS, so his detachedness makes sense.
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>>77901337
Exactly my point. Trailer's never show "quips" accurately. Hell, Ultron looked like he was giving menacing speeches in the trailer.. They were just silly little quips though.
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>>77901287
>anorexic WW
>Batman with a gun
>grim and brooding Superman

I want off this ride.
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>>77901340
I'm inclined to agree. I'm fine with Lex. I know it's not much to go on, but he definitely gives me vibes of Netflix Kingpin, in that he carries himself in different ways in front of different people.
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>>77901357
>"Hey guys, how about a change of pace, lets go get milkshakes in metropolis, I know a place that does them so thick you have to eat them with a spoon!"

This sounds more like Captain Marvel than superman.
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>>77901357
>guys, I watched the DCAU, why isn't everything exactly like that? I am incapable of tolerating new interpretations.
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>>77901353
>inb4 "he's playing as Clark Kent."
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>>77901217
He is not. Stop lying
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>>77901063
>he's tasked with covering a Metropolis/Gotham football game when he would rather be writing about Batman
>doesn't know Gotham's main players
And this is why they don't let you write about Batman, Clark. At least get some background knowledge about the city first.
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>>77901362
You shut your whore mouth
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>>77901104
I suck shit at this
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>>77901344
Yeah sorry about that.

New Gods has to have either Darkseid or some more abstract enemy.

JLA can pick almost any Big Bad from DC on the other hand.

But it's probably going to be Darkseid, because the likeliness of a New Gods Movie is literally impossible.

Even if it happened, it'd get assaulted from all sides. Casuals probably wouldn't care because besides possibly Orion and Darkseid, they wouldn't know who the fuck those people are.

On the opposite spectrum, hardcore people (like /co/) would brutalize and dissect every little nitpick or genuine problem the movie could have. From Design aesthetics and Casting to cinematography and Musical Score.

New Gods is NOT happening, EVER. It's sad because all I want to see is Metron as he's my favorite New God.
(and possibly Takion as a cameo)
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>>77901318
Oh yeah I totally agree. Seeing Doomsday against Batman, what else could batman possible do to dent him? Use a weapon, that is usually in the form of a gun or hand-held cannon.

My dad used to be friends with Neal Adams, but moved away shortly before I was born. So he used to always talk about Neal and how cool he was, because he knows I like comics. And one day I get pissed off and go off that Neal Adams is shit for one reason. I open up Batman Odyssey and the pages with Batman using guns. He doesn't talk about Neal any more because he knew, even before I directly told him, that Batman doesn't use guns. And now he remembers that moment I showed him, because Batman just doesn't do that.
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>>77900158

My only complaint is more spikes on doomsday. Though I don't want to see it in a trailer, I want bald lex flying around in green and purple power armor. I've heard Flash and Aquaman show up but I'd rather they stuck to part 2. Other than that I'm pretty hyped. Great times to be alive.
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>>77901357
That makes Superman sound like an idiot. I do, however, agree that Superman needs to lighten the hell up. I love him in this movie, but by the time JL Part 2 is over, he better be a much happier person.

Also don''t trivialize Superman's problems, bruh. He's been alienated and bullied since he was a kid. These days, he goes around saving the world. Just think about some of the shit he sees daily. Of course he'll be a little mopey. Give him time.
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>>77901389
>anorexic WW
Lies. Gal looks great.
>Batman with a gun
What is he going to do - fight Doomsday with batarangs?
>grim and brooding Superman
Should he be happy that they are getting they're asses kicked by mother fucking Doomsday who is also destroying the city
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>>77900402
I think its wondie showing Bruce what will happen if he keeps going after Superman. Batman becomes a murdering terroist, Superman takes control, and they are both fighting eachother even as Darkseid takes control
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>>77901362
You're really one of those "scum of the Earth" type of guys, aren't you, anon?
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>>77901362
>I haven't seen Man from UNCLE
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>>77901431
>But it's probably going to be Darkseid, because the likeliness of a New Gods Movie is literally impossible.

I don't know man. Could have said the same about Suicide Squad years ago. And if WB does manage to court George Miller, that dude seems to know his shit, and New Gods would be right up his alley.

It may gather interest if DC did something, anything with them apart from cameos, but I digress.
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>>77900588
I only noticed it when Bruce stepped out of his car, which I assume was just to make it look like paparazzi filming it.
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I've only seen Slott's comment con the trailer. Are there any other comic people giving their opinion?
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>>77901427
And thats basically what he should end up looking like, if the rumors of him growing spines is true. Like that top Doomsday is fine FOR THE BEGINNING. But thats literally all we've gotten of Doomsday, we have no clue what he can do, other than be the grey hulk.

Thank you very much, it really doesn't suck. It was exactly what I wanted.
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Well, looks like our setbro was right after all

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/51710566/
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>>77901463
>shilling this hard
I know you have to make your 7.50/hour but come on.
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>>77901405

You say that, but DCAU remains the best interpretation of the comics lore to this date. It's staggering to think how it hasn't been surpassed yet.
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>>77901440

This seems like my dad works at Nintendo type thing. Also Batman's first appearance he dual wields pistols. Sci fi guns don't bother me on Batman. Especially if he's fighting space gods. It's only weird if he's using them on Joker and Two Face and such.
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>>77901427
Oh shit, that looks fucking great! Good job, anon. I really do hope he's going to be evolving throughout.
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>>77901489
that's exactly why i'm saying it. he was dull and boring as fuck there.
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Are we still pretending to hate Gal?
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>>77901503

Bruce Timm can't really be beat in the world of cape cartoons. I'm fine with this. Modern action cartoons are pretty shit.
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>>77901503
It's good, but thinking that its elements should be arbitrarily applied to everything is retarded.
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>>77901505
I mean I don't really blame you for not believing, but its true to me.
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>>77901513
Shit taste confirmed
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>doomsday shows up

I am getting spiderman 3 venom vibes here.
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>>77901514
I'm still completely unimpressed by her. Is that really so hard to believe?
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>>77901427

Great job anon. This was the only part of the trailer that triggered me. Doomsday not horny enough.
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>>77901287
>No Green Lantern
I think Green Lantern would be better used if he just showed up in a Flash Movie and then got his own movie with no origins bullshit.
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>>77901161
>>77901153

It didn't take away that much. Snyder just made him more subtle about it since Moore's characterisation in the comic swung all over the place in the original comic going from "Ultra Humanitarian" to "Oh he was really a supervillian all along except his plan worked and he's celebrating the death of millions" while the film version was conflicted about his master plan and having to destroy what he cared about.

Subtle but more consistent. Only thing was Snyder sucked at getting it across.
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>>77901514
I don't think anyone really hates her, it's just that noone gives a fuck about her. You could literally swap her with any other actress at this point, even Megan Fox.
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>>77901397
>>77901405

>Implying DCAU isnt the greatest shit ever

I just like the idea of Superman being an alien that appreciates shit like milkshakes more than humans would because its new to him
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>>77901440

Hating on Neal Adams is a shit tier stance. You should leave the thread before the others realize what you have done.
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>>77901288
Cavill was also in Count of Monte Cristo. Even if that movie was nothing like the book, that's still pretty great.
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>>77901493
You're right.

However, Suicide Squad gets a push from having "iconic" characters like Joker and Harley as well as the new additions in casuals' eyes.

New Gods could have famous actors in it to boost the interest, but at the end of the day - the vast majority of people will have no idea who they are.

If they try to push different thematic concepts like the Fourth and Fifth World onto the audience, I think it'll leave a sour taste in their mouth.

I would love a New Gods movie - but I don't think it's worth the possible risk. To do good regardless of casual uninterest, it would have to be the most grandiose, action-packed, and cosmically phenomenal movie in the DCEU.

That's something i'm pretty sure they want to make The Justice Leauge movie be, not New Gods.
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"Stay down, if i wanted it, you'd be dead already"

So true. Fuck your muhhh prep time
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I've been waiting for this shot.
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>>77901535

I don't want to see GL again until he gets his own movie or possibly in a brief cameo in Flash. I'd rather see Hal in the CW verse at this point and let John and Guy take over the movies.
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> 6 = AMONG THE BEST MOVIES/SHOWS > EVER MADE!
> 5 = AMAZING / SUPERB
> 4 = GREAT
> 3 = GOOD
> 2 = OK / MEH
> 1 = BAD
> 0 = HORRIBLE

Batman (89) = 3
Batman Returns = 2
Batman Forever = 2
Batman & Robin = 0
Batman - Mask of the Phantasm = 4
Batman Begins = 4
The Dark Knight = 6
The Dark Knight Rises = 4
Iron Man = 4
Iron Man 2 = high 3
Iron Man 3 = high 3
Superman = 3
Superman 2 = 3
Superman Returns = 3
Man of Steel = 5
Thor = low 4
Thor 2 = low 4
Avengers = 4
Avengers - Age of Ultron = 4
Cap 1 = 4
Cap 2 low 5
Hulk (03) = 3
Incredible Hulk = low 4
X-men = 3
X2 = low 4
X3 = 2
Wolverine Origins = high 1
The Wolverine = low 4
First Class = 4
Days of Future Past = 4
Daredevil (03) = 3
Daredevil (2015) = low 6
Jessica Jones = high 4
Punisher (89) = 3
Punisher (04) = 3
Punisher - War Zone = low 3
Spider Man = 3
Spider Man 2 = 3
Spider Man 3 = low 3
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Not even trolling, Movie Captain America is pretty much how I think movie Superman should be.
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>>77901563
>the only reason you're alive is b/c I let you
>implying that doesn't 100% validate Bruce's actions
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>>77901575
what kind of autistic rating system is this
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>>77901503
It really isn't.

Though I do think that some of the DCAU shows remain some of the best animated series to date.
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Supes? Good. Batman? Good. Doomsday? Did not see coming, fucking sweet. Would have been a nice reveal during the movie because NOBODY had heard of this before now, but I guess they wanted the extra hype.

Wonder Woman and Lex are painfully bad. The fact that the rest looks SO GOOD makes them look even shittier.
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>>77901564
Is he infected with red kryptonite there? IN smallville red kryp made him bad

That would also explain why he's just chilling with Lex
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>>77901575

I"m fine with this.
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My hype was killed by this trailer and cringe Lex. Batman gun obviously shoots something else than normal bullets, but it doesn't matter because this will be a huge disappointment either way.
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>>77901427
>Superman punches him in the face
>spines immediately grow
>cue well, shit face
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>>77901575
I like that you took the time to write that all down, but...
>Age of Ultron = Great
Opinion discarded.
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>>77901575
Delete This you sperg.
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>>77901575
Also
Fantastic 4 (05) = 1
Fantastic 4 - ROTSS = 1
Ghost Rider = 2
Ghost Rider TSOV = 2
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The prophecy has been fulfilled
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i knew it.its always like that with snyder.the third trailer always show you what will be bad about the movie.i'll see it for shazam and supercav saving people
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>>77901583

Cap was only a boyscout in the 40s and 50s kind of like Supes. The rest of their history they are pretty much their own men. Cap gets all jaded about Shield and USA but wears the flag anyway. Goes anti registration. Supes is a citizen of the world and ends up doing more space shit and renounces his US citizenship.

These people who think Cap and Supes have always been huge goody two shoes don't really know the characters very well.
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>>77901589
One that gets to the fucking point.
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Honestly I have mixed feelings about this. The Clark and Bruce interaction was great. Lex was a bit cringy but the last 30 seconds of the trailer was a let down. DC should have never tried Marvel's formula. It doesn't seem to work with them.
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>>77901575

That looks like it took way too much time, and the ranking system is silly. It should be from High numbers to low or vice versa, not grouped by random heroes.
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>>77901641
>Marvel invented it
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>>77901575

Where do you rank Constantine, Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, iZombie, The Walking Dead and the old Swamp Thing movies? You included Netflix but not other comic shows.
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>>77901615
lel
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oh god.. i complained about the CGI in the previous trailer, but now its just atrocious! i am a 3D arts student, and i can spot what is good and bad CGI.. looks like something one of my top classmates could pull off in her spare time (not me, in not that good) i dont diss the MOVIE, but the trailer didnt work. it was really horribly made with fast snap cuts usually would be used in quirky teen comedy movies.. the comedy is a bit cringeworthy. and how wonderwoman turns up and batman and superman randomly stop fighting to ask who's team she is on in a very chill and relaxed tone.. okay, one dis about the movie. the confrontation between clark and Bruce makes it OBVIOUS TO THE BOTH OF THEM THAT THEY ARE BATMAN AND SUPERMAN! JEEZ!! if Bruce Wayne didnt get the hint by now that Clark is Superman, he clearly ISNT the worlds greatest detective. i both like and Hate Lex Luthor in this. i LOVE his character, but i dont see him as LEX. it feels more like a Joker's younger brother and a quirky school boy had sex together and nothing really happened because 2 men cant get pregnant with eachother, but its still there.. And is BATMAN HOLDING A GUN!? now im more convinced that he is secretly death stroke.. did i mention how horrible the CGI is?
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>>77901641
How the fuck is ir like Marvel?
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>>77901603
>Age of Ultron = Great
> Opinion discarded.
It has 2 flaws, Being too humorous/quipy and Ultron not being menacing enough, everything else is solid.
I can ignore the humor that I don't like, and I like Spader's performance even if it wasn't ideal.
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>>77900344
>hating bizzaro
what is wrong with you
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>>77901618
>Shazam

At what juncture was that even hinted at?
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I'm not a fan of MoS, but then I remeber the current Superman run and yeah, I'd rather go with the movieverse
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Is there any rumors on the runtime? I doubt it's under 2.5 hours
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>>77901658
apparently 2 quips = age of quiptron
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>"I have a bad history with freaks dressed like clowns"

Fucking scathing. I only wonder how salty Superman fanboys were after that line.
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>>77901503
Not that staggering when you think about it. In the DC shows, practically everyone involved were huge fans of these characters. Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, Dwayne McDuffie, Eric Radomski, Alan Burnett, Dan Riba etc etc. These guys knew their shit and had the experience and talent in their field to best capture that magic.

Compare to these films, usually it's just the writer and maybe the director who have read anything past the most recent run on the character they're doing that was gifted to them by the studio. Producers, exec producers, production designers, digital effects crew, etc, they know fuck all, they're just making a movie.
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>>77901624
>casuals who only really know the characters from seeing them on t-shirts and lunchboxes don't really know the characters very well
SURPRISE.
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>>77901664
if the movie is a hit,it means shazam movie in 2019
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>>77901641

This doesn't remind of of Marvel at all. The villains seem threatening and there are very serious undertones that criticize both heroes effects on the real world. In Marvel movies they're twice as many jokes, silly villains and the plot is very light. Though we all know the plot of this movie, it definitely seems more well thought out than the Disney flicks. No offense, I just don't think have 2 jokes in a trailer makes them have the same tone at all.
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Looks like it was done by the same people who did new Fantastic 4. How can you get your characters so wrong?
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>>77900652
I don't think you even watched The Sovial Network. They aren't at all similar.
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I always saw the Avengers as B-list superheroes. Mainly because the Justice League has a far stronger roster overall and a far larger roster. The vast majority of the Justice League were always well know.

I'm glad that the Avengers are getting more adoration thanks to the MCU, but it's still amazing to me that this happened.

What worries me is the possibility that DC might just rely on Superman Batman and Wonder Woman for too long. The GL Corps movie looks very promising though.

Also, when are we getting the DCEU - MCU crossover movie? Say what you will about Big Companies and their animosity towards each other but it could work.

Episode VII (despite looking like a rehash of A New Hope) iis literally going to overtake Avatar as the Highest Grossing film of all time.

IMAGINE what will happen if Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man are on the same screen. The three most popular heroes in the entire planet.

The true age of capeshit will begin then and there. Only through collaboration will the company wars finally end.
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>>77900158
I'm not entirely sure how they have room for Wonder Woman in this movie.

I like Bruce Wayne, but he seemed to give off a "geez, this nerd" vibe when Luthor showed up and I feel they should have more mutual respect as business men.
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>>77900158
Cool trailer, now I don't feel like I'm missing out of anything by not watching the movie.
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>>77901703
Excep anon said he was going to see BvS for "shazam and super cavill saving people"

Why the fuck can't 90% of 4chan perform basic reading comprehension? It really fucking pisses me off, more than anything else.
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>>77901257
One of those is just the antenna on top of the building he is standing on.
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>>77901695
Aside from all the production team and most of the actors, Shannon and Batfleck really read the comics. Snyder helped alot too, he told Batfleck what he wanted Batman to be like, and gave him some comics. Fleck calls up Kevin Smith, hey I'm batman. So Smith helped Batfleck figure out the character as well, because thats what Ben wanted.
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>>77901713

Superman and Batman are spot on. Alfred is perfect. Lex has two sides, camp and than evil scientist which is perfect. Wondy has no lines so you have me there. But Trank has nothing to do with this movie. Terrio and Affleck have ensured that this movie will be cool. Also go fuck yourself.
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>>77901647
>That looks like it took way too much time
About 6 minutes, I'm at work and bored...

>>77901655
>Where do you rank
Constantine (05) = high 3
Constantine (tv) = Haven't finished it yet, but I would say a low 4
Flash = never seen, looks like a moderate 3
Arrow = never seen, looks like a moderate 3
Supergirl = never seen looks like a 1
iZombie = never seen
The Walking Dead = never seen
Swamp Thing (82) = don't remember much but I would say a high 2
return of the sw = never seen.
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>>77901705
When those two jokes makes you want to puke, it gives you a pretty good idea of what kind of feeling the movie's other attempts of 'humor' are going to invoke.
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why can't we have this Lex?


why Jesse Eisenberg?
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>>77901728

Wonder Woman saves Bruce and Clark and probably has some connection to the New Gods for Justice League. Bruce probably already knows Lex is an asshole.
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>>77900244
This is literally how I feel, don't even need to post anything else in this thread.
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>GET IT EVERY LINE HAS A DOUBLE MEANING RELATING TO CLARK BEING SUPES AND BRUCE BEING BATS

>THIS IS GOOD WRITING RIGHT?????
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>>77901752
Wasn't Constantine canned?

Anyway, it would've been great bringing Keanu's Constantine back for a movie.
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>>77901733

Hyperbole! Marvel troll! Damage CONTROL!

>Don't pretend you won't watch the movie and then shitpost every day for 2 years just like you did with MOS you slime.
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>>77901530
Except Doomsday has only even been what S-M3 Venom was that comics Venom wasn't.
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>>77901763
>some say /co/ is still arguing to this day over if that Lex was Black or Latino or even white
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>>77901726
>IMAGINE what will happen if Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man are on the same screen. The three most popular heroes in the entire planet
Seeing both Batman and Spiderman interact on screen would be fucking awesome. I guarantee it'll make billions. Unfortunately, it'll never happen.
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>>77901791
BASED TERRIO
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>>77901791


it's like poetry
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i hope they both end up being good
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>>77901593
Anon he either just finished using heat vision or is about to. That's all.
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>>77900344
>Parademons

What?
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>>77901752

Honestly if you've never seen Flash, Arrow, Supergirl or Walking Dead it's abit hard to take you seriously considering this is /co/ no offense meant man.
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>>77901677
Snyder shot over four hours of material, they even discussed releasing a Director's Cut on home media.

Final movie will probably clock at 2 hours 50 minutes.
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>>77901801
I always thought ge was a mulatto.
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>>77901794
Yep canned, I still got around 5 episodes of it left to watch.
>Anyway, it would've been great bringing Keanu's Constantine back for a movie.
Agreed, he was not the comics Constantine, but he was damn good playing how he played it as its own thing.
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Not feeling Batfleck or Lex. Wonder Woman should have had her own movie before appearing in something like this.
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>>77901791
It actually was good writing. Nice meme though.
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>>77901791
Eat your heart out, Lucas.
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>>77901791
>NOBODY CARES ABOUT CLARK KENT TAKING ON THE BATMAN

>It's funny because people do care.

>Because Clark Kent is Superman.

It's so dense.
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>trailer's been out for 12 hours
>can't even get 3 million views

This movie's dead
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>>77901815
Jesus Christ, you can't just go around saying that kind of stuff
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>>77901684
We're supposed to be assblasted that Clark and Bruce are bantering. I'm going to be so devastated when they shake hands at the end!
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>>77901760

Hyperbole. The two jokes in a trailer didn't make me puke. The problem with Marvel movies is each seem to have 15-20 jokes which I think is simply too much. Consider that most comic books that are considered great entries to the medium are not funny at all but take their subject matter quite seriously. Based on what we've seen of BvS I think it's leaning on being more serious.
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>>77901763
>why Jesse Eisenberg?
This is the real question. The portrayal isn't really bad, it's just that the actor doesn't fit.
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>>77901575
>Batman (89) = 3
>Daredevil (03) = 3
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>>77901771
>Wonder Woman saves Bruce and Clark
It just seems a little late and might feel like it comes too much out of nowhere.
Adding 1 hero per movie might be too slow and impractical though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chMgi-GQmIw

I made a thing for you /co/.
I hope you like it.
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>>77901815
They both will.

The big question, to /co/, is which will make more and which will receive a bigger RT score.

Which I'm predicting will be BvS for the former and CW for the latter. Primed for shitposting.
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>>77901641
>Marvel invented quips

Are Marveldrones really this delusional now?
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Okay, to the people complaining that this spoiled the movie. It still hasn't answered any of the following questions that I still have for it. Plus it's obvious both Batman and Superman are going to team up, come on, it's called Dawn of Justice for a reason, and the main question is how they team up, so far, they have only shown them teaming up in the end, but the main question is why....Who finds out Luther was behind it, is one of them being controlled by him, or they realize that their is no point in fighting? Plus, I want to know how much ass kicking both men will do to each other, that's what people want to see and so far they haven't spoiled how it goes down (I'm not talking about the whole Superman and Zod going through Wayne Tower, i am referring to when they fight for the first time. If they had, then the movie is ruined. I'm still seeing this movie.
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>>77901815
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