>No mousers >No Baxter Stockman >No triceratons >No

>>77882694

It's not cluttered with a bunch of shit no one gives a fuck about.

>>77882694
Until we get a movie that does have all of those things, then it really it's still the best.

You're describing things that exist in almost no other TMNT movie and even if it isn't over the top, it still had the best story and special effects of any TMNT movie.
Now if you said "best TMNT adaptation" then you'd have a more valid argument, but one I'd still disagree with.

>>77882852
>special effects

m8... the movie's over 20 years old

>>77882694
Holy shit, that is the ugliest cover art I have ever seen.

>>77882694
>>No other mutants
We got that in the second movie.

>>77882878
And it still has the best live action Turtles.
The Turtles in 2 were slightly downgraded, and TMNT 3 was a fucking mess in all areas, including costumes. And the 2014 movie had terrible turtle and Shredder designs, but the CGI was pretty decent.
I guess I should've said costumes and design instead of just "effects" because that's vague as fuck.

>>77882694
Its a good tight bare bones setup of the first arcs.

>>77882694
Look Anon. As a lifelong Mirage fan, I get where you are coming from. I was 12 when that shitty cartoon came out, basically the opposite of the TMNT I had been reading.
That being said, the movie was pretty close to the source material. It was a blend of the cartoon and the comic.

We will never have a good TMNT movie that lives up to those Vol 1 Mirage stories.

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>>77883669
>muh comics

Who cares you fucking faggot, the 1990 is a great movie regardless of how much it follows your funny papers.

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>>77883669
>40 year old man posting on a board for media meant for children talking about 4 cartoon ninja turtles

>>77884198
isn't that just /co/ in general?

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>>77882955
no worst than USA megaman 1
>meanwhile in europe

>in an alternate universe somewhere, TMNT 2 covers the space odyssey with the utroms, triceratons, and fugitoid
>while TMNT 3 is the same basic story but a lot better made, and involving Renet
>and TMNT 4 gets to be some other movie instead about monster hunting because it was a good movie but not very turtly, while the ACTUAL tmnt 4 gets to be uh.. an adaptation of tales from the underground
I mean I fucking love tmnt2 for what it is, but.. hoo boy, so jokey. i dunno. If they had left in the part where david warner is an utrom, that would ahve solidified it as fantastic no regrets territory

>Shredder is an unambiguous bad guy

Yes, how dare they.

>>77884198
not him, but im 33 anon, is there a age limit i wasnt aware of? do you think when you are a little older you will stop reading comics, or playing video games? w ell you might, but you might not

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>>77882694
Because it's a blend of the cartoon and the comic, mostly the comic to create a moive out of. You don't expect them to put even half of all that shit in the first movie, do you? They couldn't even find anyone to do the fucking movie for them for the longest time.

It's called an adaption, the idea is that it tries to adapt the idea of the comic/cartoon to the big screen as well as it can. The 1990 TMNT movie isn't perfect by any means, but it does an excellent job in bringing the Turtles to the big screen.

Besides all of the fighting and jokes, the 1900 movie actually took concepts like family and makes a central theme around it. The movie can take the time to actually back off from the other shit to try and have a few moments where the characters have to reflect of what just happened to them or what kind of situation they're in. Danny just seems like some random fuck they threw in, but when you think a bit about it, he's a reflection of how troubled teens end up in those kind of gangs anyway.

You remember Raph's fight with Casey Jones? After the fight, Raph goes back home, and Splinter talks to him about his anger, and how he always wants to deal with it by himself? And, the most important part, where he says to his brothers and him will always be there for him.
Compare this to Danny, where his dad doesn't understand him at all, and he runs off to the Foot's hideout, where Splinter claims he's their father, and will train them in the way of the foot.

Later on the movie, after Splinter is hauled off Raph goes off in a huff by himself, and the others leave him be, and then he gets his ass beaten to near death by a bunch of Foot Ninja. It comes full circle.

The movie's not perfect, but there's a lot more to it than you're willing to give it, and having all of that stuff you mentioned wouldn't have made for a better movie. If you want to complain about the lack of using material, go down and ask about III

>>77882694
Bay please leave.

>>77884198
Yep, im 40. So fucking what? I just have more money to buy shit I like and kids to share it with. You dont stop liking the things you like because you get older.

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>>77885984
>Brony 4 lief <3 <3 <3

>>77882694
>Why do nostalgia fags pretend this is the best TMNT movie?

Because it had none of what you just listed. That movie has always been at the core of what I know of TMNT. It's the most down-to-earth and can be taken the most seriously in a dramatic sense. If it had any of that over the top crap (apart from the turtles themselves) it'd be shit.

Also I wish they'd have released John Du-prez's score, instead of it just being meshed into one thing on the soundtrack.

>>77882694
You do know what a movie IS, right? They only have an hour and a half, maybe two, to tell a story. To show all of that you would need what we in show biz call a series, which is like a bunch of short movies you can watch one after the other.

>>77882694
I want to see a live action TMNT film with Alopex. Let's see Hollywood try a female anthro for a change in these Live Action films. In fact, has that ever been done?

Splinter and the turtles are male anthros. Can't think of any other examples.

>>77882694
Out of the 4 (live action trilogy and TMNT,) which do you think is the best? I personally do think it's this one but that's not saying much.

>>77891377
fuck off

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>>77891377
I take it you never saw the Next Mutation

>>77892259
That's not CGI....that's a costume from a cheap TV show.

I mean I want to see more CGI renditions of anthros in Live Action films. TMNT is the perfect vehicle for that. Just making a movie about Old Hob's gang being the villains would do the job......well they'd need to hire good animators, designers, etc. And the turtles need re-designs as well because they look butt ugly in the 2014 film. Splinter looked alright though.

>>77892564
What is your complaint, other than not seeing furry tits?

>>77892632
.......mentioning Old Hob's gang implies wanting to see variety of anthros and in that case specifically? Old Hob's gang has no females. If you're trying to bait/troll? Piss poor effort.

Besides what's so wrong about wanting to see what modern CGI can do? It's not an animal anthropomorphic character, but did you see the effects on Groot from Guardians of the Galaxy? Not bad. The same curiosity applies to these characters from the TMNT franchise.

>>77882694
>Why doesn't this Origin Movie have fucking everything in it?

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>>77885288
This guy. He gets it.

>>77888495
The Hobbit trilogy is a fine example of how to ruin a movie with too much time and plotlines.

>>77884198
>>77886362
This fucking fag sound like 12 years old...

If she wants to post here and watch cartoons it's nice.
I wish my dad liked cartoons that way, too.

>>77882694
Those are some awful criticisms
If they threw all of that in there, the movie would be a fucking mess (Like Star Wars prequel levels of a mess)

>>77882694
That first movie is one of the most faithful comic to screen adaptations I've ever seen, with whole scenes and issues translated straight to film with hardly any changes.

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Why do people hate the third movie so much? It really isn't much worse than the other 2
I thought it was fun

>>77898465
Honestly, outside the suits, I don't have a problem with the third movie. It's dumb, but I like a little dumb with my TMNT. Plus, there was some good character stuff with Raph and Mikey.

>>77898465
I'll take it over the recent film as well as several other unspeakable Ninja Turtle stuff, that's for sure.

>>77885288
I loved it, It was even a little dark like the original comics.

>>77885288
I actually wrote a paper on how the movie uses family as a central theme for a film class I took. My professor loved it.

>>77882694
>>Shredder is an unambiguous bad guy

What the fuck else do you want him to be?

>>77882694
I'm sorry anon, I don't see how any of that is a bad thing.

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>>77882694
Because it is. Deal with it faggot.

>>77898465
2 and 3 are about on the same level - not as good as the first one, but still decent entertainment. I think the issue mostly comes from the fact that people who saw these as they came out had got a bit older by 3 and had entered the obnoxious "everything sucks" phase of youth. I'm not saying 3 isn't without real flaws, but it's nowhere nearly as bad as the internet would make you think.

It was a better kid-friendly adaptation of the Mirage comics than the 2k3 series.
At least the first one, then it got way too slapstick and silly because of upset parents.

>>77891793
The first and TMNT are the best.

>>77898465
I just didnt like the time travel plot and it felt shorter than the other two.

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>>77901012
>The first and TMNT are the best.

This is correct.

>>77900975
>>77885288
>>77882743
All of this. Go be a faggot elsewhere.

The first movie did a fantastic job of adapting the Mirage comics while incorporating just enough cartoon influence to make mainstream audiences comfortable.

Honestly, I feel the first live action movie is the ultimate distillation of everything great about TMNT. It had the humor of the cartoon with the heart and the grit of the comics.

>>77882694

>a Jose Conseco bat? tell me you didn't pay money for this

okay these jokes were alright

>>77883795
>the 1990 is a great movie regardless of how much it follows your funny papers

No it wasn't. Whether or not it follows the comics, it's still a mess of inconsistent tones and pop culture references.

>>77901012
TMNT was shit.

Mikey and Donny were ignored pretty much completely, the villains were atrocious, and the plot was a paper thin excuse for Leo and Raph to throw down.

It felt more like a two-parter from a television show rather than a movie.

>>77882694
I give it a 9.95

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>>77901539

>>77900945
In the comics it was much more ambiguous, Shredder just wanted to avenge his brother.

>>77901822
He ambushed Yoshi and murdered his wife in cold blood.

I agree that the first issue has a surprising amount of moral ambiguity but Shredder has always been a piece of trash.

>>77901822
He runs a crime gang that murders people at the drop of a hat.

He murdered a woman who had no combat training or experience.

Killing Yoshi might've been an honor thing, but everything else is pretty villain-ish.

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>>77893012
Try reading the Mutanimals side issues. They now have Sally Pride.

>>77892259
The memories
Never again

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The best movie is the next one.

>>77904947
I doubt it'll be better than 1990, but if all the improvements we've heard about are actually well executed, it could be the second best.

The 1990 movie was pretty much the first Mirage storyarc, and ended the same way. It just added in the teenage thief army to add more of a kiddie angle.

Is this thread just more bitching that the movie does not look like the 2003 show again?

>>77882694
Nostalgiafags love pizza eating muppets.

This movie is shit, and anyone that does not agree that it is total shit is just nostalgiafagging way WAY too much.

>>77908224
pretty much