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>storytiming bendis
>bendis ironman
>ironman writed by bendis
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>>77870968
Doom is 10 10 fuckable
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DOOM!
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If you were to look at this comic without any of the dialogue it would actually seem to be halfway decent.
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>>77870638
I hate Friday's dialogue.
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>>77871040
>> Why?
I agree MJ
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>>77870669
I Reeeally hate Friday's dialogue...
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>>77870877
Jesus.
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>>77870950
>Just bringing the superior armor in
I feel like Tony should have scrapped that particular set.
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>>77870950
>Iron Man calling someone short
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>>77870740
>Changing the armor design on the fly

Ok

That's kind of fucking really cool.
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>>77870740
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>>77870807
>Samurai Stark
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>>77871009
MJ's dialogue is so unnatural here...and she's defo out-of-character. Dick move Bendis.
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>>77870844
>Every character in this book has a 'bro' mentality and even the cops say dude

I don't have a proper reaction image for what I'm feeling right now
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So I admit to not having read this, but what the fuck is up with Doom being here and healed?
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>>77871194
Dialogue is Bendis' crippling weakness.
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>>77870669
Fucking CHRIST, Bendis. You have become your own biggest parody.
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>>77871009
Ooooh MJ..... You should know there are super powered crooks EVERYWHERE. Even in small places.
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>>77871320
>yf bendis predicted the samurai jack revival

>>77871255
why? the armor wasnt the bad one
also it is one of the best looking ones
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>>77871325
Nice try Peterfag
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>>77871255
At least now we know that Superior Iron Man wasn't just retconned.
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>>77870994
Girl is moving up in the world.
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>>77870877
Fuck you. I am not reading this shit.
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>>77870898
>No more Tonys
All right, I actually smiled at that one. Awful comic still though.
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>>77870968
>doom eating potato chips
im not sure how to feel about bendis trying to make one of marvel's most menacing and prideful villains into some douchey tool
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>>77871040
I don't get it, isn't tony an alcoholic and mary jane's dad was also an alcoholic, why the fuck would they get together?
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I liked it.
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>>77871490
I doubt that Bendis cares.
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>>77870769
Okay that looks pretty cool.
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>>77871490
He's a recovering alcoholic, he doesn't touch the stuff unless he makes a catastrophic fuck up.
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>>77871490

Joe Quesada loves to masturbate to ntr pornography
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>>77871399
But now we need to know how Tony was forgiven
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>>77870968
Doom eats ripple cut potato chips, which will now be known forever more as Doom cut chips.
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They did know he was evil because magic.
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>>77870669
It's just like my internet maymays!
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>>77870740
>changing into fucking Samurai armor in the middle of a fight
the first and probably only 10/10 moment from this run so far.
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>>77870618

Can someone explain this joke? Is Bendis just really wordy and uses that as a way to add false depth to the dialogue?
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>>77871490
I'm not sure why that would stop them
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>>77871341
That's just how he appeared at the end of issue 1. No explanation. Maybe the end of Secret Wars will explain.
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>>77870618

No. Literally never.

I usually don't go full nerd-rage, but I hope nobody buys this, though I know some people will.
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>mfw when actually enjoying this
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>>77870618
great tits
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>>77871040
>Why?
Weird reaction.
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>>77871829
I doubt that was on purpose. But I guess we can squeeze a kek joke out of it.
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>>77870669
>All this TALK TALK TALK
>Not one of the ninjas attacks to interrupt it, they just sit still and let Iron Man talk to himself
Fucking seriously?
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>>77870669

Moonlight Ninja Fight Beach Party?!
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>>77870968

>Doom is handsome
>and quippy

jesus christ, I knew it would be bad, but...
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>>77870820
Is Friday psychic? He didn't say anything about being dishonored until after she told Stark what he said.
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>>77870968
Why the fuck would DOOM of all people eat popato chips? Are they special Latverian brand good-for-your-health chips?
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>>77871339
And here I thought Bendis speech was just a meme.
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>>77872439
Ninjas are just THAT predictable.
>MUH HONOL!
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>>77870669
when did Deadpool steal Tony's body?
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>>77872035
Did you just ignore the previous page where she said she escaped supervillains?
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>>77872720
>Drinks are on me!
>Why?
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>>77871109
The comic isn't bad. You pessimistic whiners just want to complain because it's Bendis.
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>>77871490
Who said they're getting together?
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>>77872769
I usually defend Bendis, the book's fine but his MJ is way off...reminds me of BND era levels.
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>>77872751
Ok so you're being an idiot on purpose
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>>77872823
Tony's going to rough up her club, she's gonna be broke, he hires her to work for him, she holds a grudge. It's a perfect for a sit-com
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>>77870618
>Iron Man is my favorite
>You know, Iron Man
>From the Iron Man film
>I wont be buying Iron Man
>Because Bendis Wrote it
>Brian Micheal Bendis
>They guy who is currently writing Iron man

Fuck you Bendis.
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>>77872825
MJ has been out of character since Superior Spider-Man. but this wasn't bad. MJ was just having her showman face on. Nothing can be worse than how Slott handled her in Superior Spidey
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Why is everyone talking like this? Why is Doom not Doom? I would be OK with an explanation later on but knowing Bendis he won't explain shit.

At least there seems to be some kind of plot happening here.
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>>77870877
>Sometimes the simplest answer is the right answer.
>What is the simplest answer?
>Oh, I have no idea. You programmed me to say that.
>Well, take that phrase out of the program. That is entirely annoying of me.

Look, it's a tiny gem of clever dialogue in a mountain of shit.
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>>77872916
Yeah, I should probably give this a chance...just a reflex reaction right now, it's been a long while since 616 MJ was someone to look up to. I've had to rely on the daily strip MJ who's been more of a badass the last couple of months. While THIS MJ is busy fleeing cities to get away from the super-villains, daily MJ volunteers to dive straight into the action and defy the sub-mariner's elite guard to save a kid.
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>>77872893
Fuck Bendis as in sexual intercourse with Bendis? Or fuck fuck Bendis?
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Why is there so much fucking dialogue in this comic?

Does Bendis know that less is sometimes better?
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>>77870950
That bleeding edge
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>>77873234
ups
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>>77871040

What the hell? Why did they try to make MJ all business-y on the cover if she's just doing the same exact thing she was doing in ASM?

This means its going to be exactly what we already predicted: Tony and MJ are hooking up. Not any actual plot reason. Just because Bendis can.
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>>77873309
This is set-up for a transistion in status quoes for MJ, which we don't get a whole lot of in All-Different for many characters. It's pretty refreshing actually. MJ will have her club totalled, Stark offers her a job., but MJ will be pissed off at him for causing the damage
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>>77872935

Because bendis writes his convos like one would write a knock-knock joke.
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>>77872916
>MJ has been out of character since Superior Spider-Man.

Long than that, even. Since Brand New Day started, really.
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>>77871879
well there was literally a 200k drop between #1 and #2 so I think you don't have to worry
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>>77873360
Are you from the future?

How can you tell that from the 2 pages she was in? How can something that hasn't even happened yet be refreshing?
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>>77870968
Handsome Doom is mai husbando.

We can eat chips after ANAL
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>>77871876
Which given the delays of, we'll probably get it some time around when Half Life 3 hits shelves.
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>>77871924
Same. The good moments outweigh the bad ones.
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This is worse than those silver age comics where every character explains what they are doing in their current panel.
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>>77870877
fucking Bendis
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>>77871490
>isn't tony an alcoholic and mary jane's dad was also an alcoholic

They're both alcoholics because MJ's dad is Tony's dad.
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>>77872996
And even more worse, we have this MJ to compare to the RYV MJ who dove right into the action to save Peter, even dawning a super suit and kicking ass
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>>77873000
Sexual intercourse of course.
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>>77872769
The dialogue is bloated and awful, which is a real shame because the book is visually impressive and has a decent plot. The dialogue just kills it because it's what you actually have to read.
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>>77873499
it's because Bendis can't write anything that isn't predictable and trite
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>>77873094
Still the sexiest. This hexagonal one is growing on me though.
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>>77870769
I'm actually diggin this armor must be my inner asian kicking in
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>>77870669
>moonlight ninja fight beach party
hglorious
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>>77873705
even though the art is technically good, Bendis's terrible dialogue fucks with the paneling and flow so it just ends up looking stiff

you've got shit like this >>77870877 just being a classic Bendis splash page hiding behind a bunch of useless panels

I honestly think it's a punishment for Marvel artists to work with Bendis
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>>77873801
>My inner Asian
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>>77873838
>I honestly think it's a punishment for Marvel artists to work with Bendis
It's definitely a waste of talent in this case.
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>>77873706
...so Tony and MJ are going to bang, right? That's why she's in the book, right?
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>>77873726
>Still the sexiest
No? Sexiest is Modular followed by Silver Centurion. Bleeding Edge is tied with Extremis on the sexy meter.
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>>77871383
>Muh Peterfag vs Spockfag shitposting

Shill confirmed
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>>77874020
Bendis tweeted a picture of someone being grossed out when someone asked him that
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>>77874050
So confirmed for being true? Bendis isn't a terribly smart writer. I can't think of a single other reason why he wants MJ in the book.
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>>77874050
Link?
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>>77873010
Some people on Bendis' appearance at E3 (for that Powers show):

>I felt that his presentation was mostly off-putting. I say this as a Bendis fan myself. Sony starts off saying they're the gamers brand and then spent a lot of their speaking time talking about not games. It wasn't all Bendis' fault. He definitely contributed to that noticeably though.

>Yeah, I was excited when they announced his name. I was like thats the dude that writes a lot the comics I read! But then it just went on and on. It felt like he didn't know the target audience that well, he should have kept it to under 2 mins, tops.

>As a fan of both mediums i couldn't agree more, that should have been a 30 second to 1 minute thing tops, hell, Bendis shouldn't have been on the stage at all, they should have shot something before hand. It was boring as fuck and really hurt the overall quality of their conference. And fuck you to the people who are implying that this is somehow deserved because comic con has forms of other media. This being about comics is a non issue, the problem is that it was jarring, bland and way too fucking long.

>It was a good thing to present they just had him up there too long.

>If he went up there with something to show I would've been fine with it, but the fact that he said nothing new apart from "this exists" for two minutes was a waste of time and really messed with the momentum they had. I don't understand why people get mad though, E3 is a giant advertisement.

This is the segment they're referring to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty-ojYPivAI
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>>77874135
You can find a whole thread on MJ in Iron Man on the Crawlspace forums, a guy called animehunter usually posts the tweets in there
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Does Marvel seriously just keep Mary Jane around just to anger Spider-Man fans?
Do they think people will never grow apathetic?
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>>77870713
>these are real honest to god people ninjas
Who the fuck talks like this.
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>>77874204
Not so long as there's continuities out there that show she and Peter are still good together.
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>>77874204
>Does Marvel seriously just keep Mary Jane around just to anger Spider-Man fans?

Yes, probably.

>Do they think people will never grow apathetic?

This will never happen. When written by a competent writer, MJ is a wonderful character. People hold on to those stories and remember them fondly. They're not going to give up on MJ.
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>>77874204
Bendis wanted to use her because nobody else did, apparently.
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>>77874299
Slott actively wrote her out of ASM, in fact.
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>>77874326
Only because he was'nt allowed to do shit with her because of that mandate preventing the marriage

First opportunity he got to do something with the marriage, he wrote his best series in years
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>>77872371
>quippy
when did he quip?
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>>77874411
>Only because he was'nt allowed to do shit with her because of that mandate preventing the marriage

And the fact that he actively hates MJ. Going so far as to call the character "1 dimensional" and "anti-Marvel".

>b-b-b-but Slott loves MJ!
No. He really, really does not. I don't know where this even came from.

What he loves is inserting his own shitty OCs and writing them as "better" characters.
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>>77873838
A lot of artists apparently like to work with Bendis because he's chill and lets them do whatever.

>>77874050
Look, they are either gonna bang or be siblings. It's too predicable and right up his alley.
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>>77874475
"whatever" in this case being endless dialogue-filled splash pages and far too many copy-pasted beat panels, I guess
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>>77874295
Wish they'd realize that as soon as they stop caring they can have what they wanted. I don't mind MJ being divorced from Spider-Man (figuratively), but Marvel ain't having that shit. She's almost solely been glorified bait for years now.

>>77874299
Well yeah, Bendis doesn't care if he gets heat from fans, but other writers do. Writing MJ is currently a no-win situation.
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>>77874411
>First opportunity he got to do something with the marriage, he wrote his best series in years

Are you referring to Renew Your Vows? Pull your head out of your ass, please. That series sucked. Hard. It wasn't even really about the marriage. it was just an excuse to troll fans with his

>RENEW YOUR VOWS WILL HAVE HUGE CONSEQUENCES AND CARRY ON PAST SECRET WARS!

...guess what carried on out of Renew Your Vows: fucking Regent. 'Cause that's why everyone read the mini, right?
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>somebody finally moves out of New York
>supervillains chase them to Chicago
>supervillains die by the hundreds when pissed-off south siders drive-by anyone wearing a stupid costume
>supervillains move back to New York
>MJ eats Best Pizza
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>>77870669
>forced memes
>ridiculously long dialogue
>'humour' that wouldn't be out of place in a bad dreamworks film
Bendis at his most Bendis

>>77870713
this dialogue just distracts you from any of the fighting that they're talking about

>>77870769
decent fanservice

>>77870820
>kamikaze japanese ninjas obsessed with honour
ah ok so we're doing 70s stereotypes again

>>77870877
fuck me, this information could have been presented in a gazillion better ways

>>77870898
>referencing his own shitty plots
more evidence that bendis no longer gives a fuck

>>77870968
>Doom eating crisps
>Doom lusting after Tony


Why is Doom in this situation again? I haven't been following this series
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>>77874475
Probably siblings...though the letters page of this issue indicates that story will be part of International Iron Man
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>>77874566
>Why is Doom in this situation
because Bendis has far too much control at Marvel
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>>77874518
The Parkers and Annie will show up again...probably Marvel are gonna wait to see how the Lois and Clark book on the other side does before bringing them back...since that book is doing EXACTLY what fans wanted Marvel to do after Secret Wars with the RYV cast so we'd have a choice
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>>77874475
>>77874570

Why does this rumor that they're siblings even exist? Is there any actual evidence to support this? Or is it just some insane (see: moronic) fan theory, ala "Squall is dead!"
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>>77874647
>The Parkers and Annie will show up again
They won't. Ever. Not in 616 continuity. You can screencap me on that.

You know who has ALREADY shown up in 616 continuity? Fucking Regent. Again, because THAT'S why everyone read Renew Your Vows, clearly.
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>>77874655
Because if people aren't fucking in comics, it's usually because their related.
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>>77874655
people just chose the most predictable thing Bendis could do after hooking up
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>>77874718
So, no, there is no evidence. Its just people being stupid.

Ok, thanks.
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>>77874566
>Why is Doom in this situation again?
he just showed up in issue one like that, they haven't mentioned anything that happened in Secret Wars yet.

I'm guessing no one remembers Battleworld, even characters like Old Man Logan or Miles Morales haven't mentioned anything about yet.
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>>77873173
>WHO IS IRON MAN?!
>First page: LET US LEARN MORE ABOUT TONY STARK, WHO IS GONNA BE IRON MAN!

Well thanks for the tale of SUSPENSE there Stan...
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>>77874743
well there's no evidence for them banging either
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>>77874692
Fair enough. I'll save it and post it in 2017 (marriage's 30th anniversary), and see if you're right, but I think they'll do something by then.
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>>77874783
Yes there is. That's what Tony does. He bangs super models. Its kind of his schtick. Heck, it was even brought up earlier in THIS series.
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>>77874832
fair enough

on the other hand, Bendis ships Pete/MJ hardcore, so I guess we'll see
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>>77874743
Nigga, your getting buttblasted over fanfiction. You need to take a step back and realize your arguing with people pulling shit out their asses.
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>>77874832
>>77874882
Not to mention the fact that Bendis already has MJ being stereotypical as fuck. She's, literally, doing the exact same thing she was doing over in ASM. Clearly he isn't doing anything terribly creative with the character.
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>>77874882
>Bendis ships Pete/MJ hardcore

Hard to say if that's actually true. If you're referring to USM, that seemed more as just a "FINE! Fans can have what they want!" and more as a means of getting Peter out of the book so it can be an ALL Miles Morales book.

Supposedly Bendis was very pro-One More Day.
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>>77870618
Mj is going to fuck Tony am I right?
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>>77873666
give evidence, anon.
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>>77871441

>No more Tonys
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>>77875056
there's obviously no hard evidence, but it would be trite and predictable, and this is Bendis we're talking about
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>>77870618
>that fucking speech bubble
insult to injury i tell y'huat
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>>77875015
>Supposedly Bendis was very pro-One More Day.

Really? Cause I heard the opposite.
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>>77875258
Yeah, he helped fucking write the story:

>Close to two years ago at one of our creative summits, the seeds of that idea began to blossom. Those ideas were then taken and a two week long e-mail chain began where we started to throw around ideas until we got the story kind of where we wanted it to be. The guys involved in all of this from the beginning were Joe, Bendis, Millar, Loeb, Tom Brevoort, Axel Alonso and myself. It then all carried over to the next summit, at which Ed Brubaker and Dan Slott also had some stuff to add.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=12238
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>>77874445
Welcome to /co/'s definition of "quip".
Explains a lot, dunnit?
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>>77871040
>MJ actually hooks up with Doom
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>>77875393
He did but that's because he's an employee and has to obey his boss when he wants some work. You can work on a story and still don't like it, like JMS did in many.
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>>77875015
Nah, if he didn't ship them hard, he would have never broke up Kitty and Peter.
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>>77873682
I didn't save the page (because I'm in the habit of saving things I like more than hate) but that fucking scene was filled with cringe-y dialogue
something like "I'm not a superhero, I'm a MOM!" or some lame-ass shit like that
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>>77876309
I think Bendis may have had something to do with MJ making the deal, he did favourite a Deviantart comic where MJ went back in time to prevent Gwen's death after Mephisto gave her that choice.
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>>77876113
Namor wanted to get into her pants this year too
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>>77871152

Me too. Jarvis at least had the frumpy butler. Friday is just a schedule bitch.
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>>77876309
Do you have any actual evidence to counter? Other, than, you know, you just saying so?

JMS actively fought against OMD, so much so that he quit writing Spider-Man altogether and wanted his name taken off OMD (Quesada, not wanting to take all the blame himself, just ignored that request).
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>>77876905
Do you have any evidence to say Bendis participated willingly or what kind of contribution he did?

Not long ago he was posting a lot of MJ/Spiderman art on his tumblr. He clearly likes them together.
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Jesus I forgot how decompressed Bendis's writing is. This book needs the double-shipping at the rate it's going.
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>>77877008
>If a writer is attached to a story that is generally hated, it MUST be because he was told to do it.
>That's the only conceivable explanation.

How's it going over in dream world, Anon?
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>>77877649
Are you trying to derail the discussion or just shitposting? I never said any of those two claims.
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>>77877649
>it MUST be because he was told to do it.

Uh yeah. You do remember JMS didn't like part of the story he was writing, right?
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>>77877725
Yeah. And he quit. He didn't write very much of One More Day. 95% of that story was written by Quesada. JMS wrote so little of it, he requested his name be taken off the comic. Quesada blatantly ignored his request.

Where the hell have you been?
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>>77870877
What the FUCK is the point of splitting the art into panels like that? It makes no sense at all and only it makes it ugly as sin.

>That dialog
Christ. It's like the series deliberately tries to bait you with cool shit like the Samurai Armor only to just reward with you with utter shit once your interest is maintained after that.
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>>77874692
Spoiler; that was because Regent was already in the works.

When Slott was told ASM was going on hiatus while SW ran, he was already planning for Regent to be his next major storyline. Rather that delay the Regent storyline, Slott used his SW tie-in book to use the character/introduce him anyway, with the added perk of being able to kill off "name" heroes to make Regent look badass.

(And a side note, Regent exists SOLELY so Slott can kill C/D-Listers off. That was how he was pitched to his editor)
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>>77877938
>It's like the series deliberately tries to bait you with cool shit like the Samurai Armor only to just reward with you with utter shit once your interest is maintained after that.

Its like you've never read a comic written by Bendis before.
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>>77877955
>Spoiler; that was because Regent was already in the works.
>When Slott was told ASM was going on hiatus while SW ran, he was already planning for Regent to be his next major storyline.
>Regent exists SOLELY so Slott can kill C/D-Listers off. That was how he was pitched to his editor

How the fuck do you know any of that?

Are you Slott? Let me guess, your dad works for Marvel?

Truth: You just flat out made that up.
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>>77873557
So the 10 percent of good moments completely outweighs the other 90 percent of bad? Christ, anon.
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>>77878142
It's not that bad, you people exaggerate everything.
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>>77871490
Because that's what men and women do, dipshit.
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>>77876342
he did that so Kitty could date his self-insert
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>>77870618
> Woman in tight clothes on the cover
> holding an intimate piece of the hero's clothes
> inside the comic she appears only on the last page and doesn't even talk to the hero

Fuck marketing droids and their intentional misleading promotions. Fuck them right in their ears.
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>>77879657
going through all that trouble for just that? Nah, he put them together for a time in order to create some drama for MJ/Peter, to make them even closer.
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>>77870769

>Sword has crossguard in bottom panels
>It doesn't have it in top panel

ok
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>>77870877

Wait I thought Tony was broke now? Also what about not needing all the other armors anymore?
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>>77874161
He sounds nothing like I expected
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>>77870950

>Superior
>Hulkbuster
>Extremis
>Bleeding Edge

Thought Bleeding Edge got destroyed?
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>>77880323
it's a shapeshifting sword to go with his shapeshifting suit
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>>77870669
Not even Deadpool would be this unfunny and retarded
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>>77880400
he's not broke, he's just no longer a billionaire and Stark Industries has been downsized.
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>>77871105
i must admit
i like that cover quite a bit
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>>77871076
The one kid get's Robert Downey Jr and one of the most sophisticated animatroic arms in the world. This little nigger makes money for other kids and he gets a handful of panels and a hoodie.
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>>77877955
>Source: my ass
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>>77870618
Will she become a meat-hole for Tony ?

I want her to take the whole root shaft and balls inside.
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>>77885617
She's gonna be his lost sister.
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>>77870968
>"Victor why are you wiping chip crumbs on my coat?"

>"FOOL, EVERYTHING IS DOOM'S NAPKIN."
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Too bad about Deadato coming on art, I'm actually enjoying Bendis Iron Man. Doom's a great foil
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Too bad the art is wasted on a shit sense of humour.
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>>77889157
Me too. The book is not so bad. It probably will read better in trade but it's good so far.
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>>77870877
This art is so amazing and the suit and Tony look great...but I cannot justify him continuing to do this. This isn't good comics. How the fuck am I even supposed to read this? If he wants to do dialogue this way, fine. Go write a stage play. I don't want my superhero comics to be like this.
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>>77870950
I don't know if I've ever had a comic gain my support, then lose me utterly, then win me back, then disgust me all over again, all in the space of single issues the way this series does.
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>>77871255
It was a symbiote. It's basically alive
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>>77870877
SHOW
DON'T
TELL
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>>77870968
I thought the following page was missing. This scene seriously ends on a cliffhanger for no reason? The fuck.
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>I can't be with you Peter, your life is too dangerous.
>So let me get with someone who's life is even worse.

Hmm.
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>>77871325
I was thinking the same when reading....
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>>77871325
>>77871383
I'm thinking the same here.
"New York is the place where all the super crooks are..."
What was that?
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>>77895386
Remember how Slott was rather peeved that Captain America now knows Spider-Man's identity again because of that one Avenging Spider-Man comic?

Imagine Bendis somehow ignoring Slott's stuff like he normally ignores other people's stuff (or forgetting what he wrote prior).
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>>77874295
>When written by a competent writer, MJ is a wonderful character.
As someone who has literally never cared about MJ I have to ask, do you have any examples?
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>>77896780
same. I've read a bunch of Spider-Man, not all of it, but a fair bit, and MJ only ever seemed to have two roles in any story; a shoulder for peter to cry on or someone to make him guilty for being a committed superhero
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>>77871490
>implying most relationships aren't people just finding dysfunctional elements of their parents in other people
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>>77870968
Is Doom now the Doctor?
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>>77873336
>10 000 yen
>Yen
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>>77897425
yen, yuan, it was the 60s, no one cared
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>>77874566
Nobody knows yet.
Its one of those
>hey, lets spawn a bunch of new comics out of the event!
>But the event ain't over yet!
>Who cares! Relaunch garners sales!
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>>77897515
of course Iron Man dropped 200k from #1 to #2 so it's entirely likely that launching ANAD before Secret Wars is over is actually hurting post-#1 sales
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>>77880551
...so whats even the point then? Why just KINDA cripple him financially? If you're not going to go the full nine yards, why even do it at all? It feels like such a cop out.
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>>77893026
No it wasn't. There is a difference between "actually being a symbiote" and "being inspired by a symbiote". The Superior suit is the latter. Stop being such a dolt.
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>>77896780
>>77896816
Virtually any pre-One More Day comic. I highly suggest the immediately post-Gwen Stacy's death stuff (pic related) or the stuff written by David Michelinie or JMS.
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>>77898226
>straights
slang evolution is funny
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>>77896713
I wasn't aware of that, can I get some details on this?
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>>77898240
One of my favorite things about reading old comics. I vaguely remember reading where Peter called a dude a Melvin, although that may just be the sleep deprivation talking.
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>>77870669
>that dialogue
WHO INVITED CWC
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>>77870877
god, that's CWC-tier
>>
>Iron Man sucks
>Bendis sucks
Put the two together and what do you get?
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>>77896780

Id add Marvel Knights Spiderman, Mary Jane loves Spiderman, that annual before OMD and the Avengers run that had Pete and family living with Stark.
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>>77899170
Stellar comic, according to Marvel.
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>>77899170
You get more Iron Man storytimes and more people on /co/ talking about Iron Man than ever before.
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>>77899514
>the Avengers run that had Pete and family living with Stark.

That ties into JMS's run.

But yeah, all the others are great MJ recommendations.
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>>77870950

Hulkbuster has to wait outside kek.
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>>77870669
>One panel with one million speech bubbles
>Four panels with no speech bubbles in which absolutely fucking nothing happens

Bendis: The Comic: The Page.

Fuck this shit, I'm just going to re-read 80's Iron Man.
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>>77898226
Any story that doesn't involve Peter Parker in any capacity?
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My one hope is that after this series, someone will understand how retarded it is that Tony was adopted and retcon the shit out of that story.
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>>77873837
No, it's retarded.
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>>77900403
Well, I mean, she IS a supporting character in Peter's story. So 99% of them are going to have Peter in there to some degree.

But there are lots of stories where she is the focus or is shown doing things independent from Peter. She's actually shown being quite capable of taking care of herself quite a few times, before Slott got his crusty fingers on her.

Pic related is her taking out Kaine durint he clone saga, who is stronger than Peter by quite a large margin.
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Is she working with Tony because she needs treatment for her scoliosis?
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>>77900926
This begs the question, does MJ has a personality or history outside of Peter or was she created exclusively to be his girlfriend/wife?
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>>77902242
You should read Amazing Spider-Man #259. Its all about her backstory.

http://www.chasingamazingblog.com/2013/06/24/amazing-spider-man-259-the-way-she-was/
>>
So wait, Tony and MJ might be siblings?
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>>77900926
Amazing Spider-Man Annual #19 is also an excellent story where MJ gets to be front and center.
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>>77902373
No. Its just stupid, unfounded fan shipping. There is literally no evidence to support that.
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>>77898199
It was based on symbiotes to the point where Tony had to modifily it to get rid of the fire and sonic weaknesses in other symbiotes, and had a rudimentary sentience that made it protective of Tony without being an A.I.

It was closer to alive than a synthezoid
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>>77902967
>and had a rudimentary sentience that made it protective of Tony without being an A.I.

Source?
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>>77870950
>RDJ Armor
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>>77902595
>might be siblings
>unfounded fan shipping

What
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>>77903795
Wat?

That's the Extremis armor, numbnuts.
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>>77903816
Read the thread. Or pretty much anywhere on the net. Tons of people think they're siblings. There is literally no evidence to support this theory. I don't even know where that rumor came from.
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>>77903841
I was referring to the tiny armor mode the kid wears.
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>>77903864
The reveal of Tony's biological parents is being hyped up by Bendis as a major part of his run and Bendis replied with a disgusted face when asked if MJ and Tony were going to hook up.

>MJ going to be a major supporting character
>reveal of biological parents going to be a major plot point
>MJ and Tony NOT getting in a relationship

It's extremely unlikely, but it's pretty easy to tell why people would think MJ and Tony are going to be siblings.

It's obviously not the case though since MJ isn't jewish.
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>>77904036
Tony isn't jewish either.

>in before Bendis will turn him Jewish

Not gonna happen, even if it's revealed his parents have Jewish heritage, Tony is an atheist. It's part of his character.
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>>77904076
>I just found out I'm ethnically jewish
>While I'm an atheist, I think this would be a good opportunity to connect with my heritage by embracing judaism
There, bam.
>>
>>77904076
yeah, can't imagine Bendis would ever make a nonsensical retcon by ignoring well-established character traits
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>>77904129
>>77904131
Then I don't see how MJ can't become Jewish as well.
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>>77904036
No. People are just over associating and assuming. You know, like the internet does. There is no actual connection (thus far) between the two.
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>>77904212
Because MJ's parents aren't jewish.
>>
>>77904212
>What is sarcasm?

I know, its hard to grasp these new fangled ideas. You'll get there one day.
>>
what the fuck happened to doom? why isn't he wearing a metal mask and robes? why is he eating chips? why is he wearing a suit and quipping?

i haven't been following marvel stuff since about the time spock was wrapping up. can someone explain what the fuck I missed?
>>
>>77904453
You asked where the rumor came from. That's how the rumor developed and is a pretty easy train of thought to follow hence why so many people are making that assumption despite the lack of anything canon to support it.
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>>77904506
We don't know since Secret Wars isn't over

still
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>>77904506
>can someone explain what the fuck I missed?
Secret Wars
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>>77872534
They're salted with RICHARDS' tears.
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>>77870669
So Bendis will just go from character to character until he's ruined everyone in Marvel, then move on to DC or something? Is this some kind of master plan to kill comics forever?
>>
>>77870844
This is terrible.
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>>77873173
I love the olden "BEHOLD MY POWERFUL TRANSISTORS!"
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>>77871009

>Go somewhere where there are no Avengers, Defenders, X-Men, Doctor Octopuses, Doctor Dooms, and whoever else.

Somewhere with rampant gang violence and ordinary street-level crime?

Like Chicago?
>>
>>77889157
>>77891762
Bendis pls go.
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>>77873336
>confusion and noice
>>
>>77870769
>that bottom left panel

Ok, this isn't THAT bad when it comes to banter.
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>>77907253
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nigga, do you even know who your talking about? He's the master of Marvel, the king of comics, the future Editor-in-Chief. He has 2 shows based on his creations, Powers and Jessica Jones, and someday Mile Morales will be the next Spider-man in movies or TV.

Sorry mate, but Bendis is the King of Marvel. Those on Team Bendis will guard any and all storylines created by Bendis, or expand on it. I mean look at this shit >>77869998

Once he finally runs Marvel, we will enter an era of Bendis continuity. As long as there's a franchise with a movie or TV show, it won't be safe from Bendis Continuity.

He' the future Editor-in-Chief of Marvel, and the other writers at marvel know it. The ones that aren't with him are off doing Star Wars.
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>>77870877
>this shit again

I swear if he does this in the next issue I'm dropping this fucking comic.
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>>77870968
New reaction pic.
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>>77907871
Oh god, is this Bendis pasta #5 now?
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>>77907929
Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?
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>>77907889
>he keeps doing this shitty thing
>boy if he does it one more time I'm dropping him for good!
>>
My one hope is that after this series, someone will understand how retarded it is that Tony was adopted and retcon the shit out of that story.
>>
>>77870669
desu I like this page. The monolgoue actually makes contextual sense and the dialogue after is rather reminiscent of Archer, which... actually feels kind of befitting of Tony.
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>>77903163
It literally spent an entire issue in Superior Iron Man trying to rescue Tony
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>>77908771
any chance someone could storytime superior IM today?
>>
I wish I could just pretend this was ultimate MJ
>>
Felicia best girl always
>>
>>77908688
>literally just monologuing in an action pose while the ninjas let him finish
>despite earnestly trying to kill him not a page before
>and they continue to do nothing but reflect his attack for the rest of the page
>on top of the absolute lack of self-awareness that is PEPPER mentioning supervillain monologues
it's trash
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>>77909813
you keep coming back here to tell every page someone like is trash. why so hard to accept there are people who liked this.
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>>77909873
it is unequivocally a bad page. Static, dialogue-filled, and unimaginative both in layout and execution.
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>>77870669
HELLA FUCKING EPIC: the page

How does this puffy kike get work
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>>77909982
By selling comics
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>>77911274
well no

it's because he writes quickly and boringly and dialogue-heavily so it's basically a vacation for artists since they can just draw 5 2-page splash pages, then copy-paste every other panel and call it day
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>>77911392
Anyone can write quickly and boringly dialogue as well as give vacation to their artists. It's even a vaction for the writer himself.

But not anyone can sell as much as he does.
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>>77907946
I feel like it's a pasta, but I've never seen it before.
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>>77908771
>What is AI?

Its like you're new to Iron Man or something.
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>>77898199
He extracted parts from a symbiote and infused it into the armor

He had an actual psionic bond with it like normal symbiote
>>
Y'know, I'm actually enjoying this book. I don't even care how much shit /co/ gives me for it.

>>77870807
>Obari eye
I like this artist
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>>77913629
And where does it say the armor is actually alive?

Oh wait, it doesn't. It just responds to his thoughts.
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>>77914155
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>>77909117
Why would that make it any better? Ultimate MJ also was with Peter.
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>>77870618
It wasn't bad
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>>77876669
Namor does not roll with the gingers though?
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>>77918938
I wish Greg Land would die
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>>77919003
I actually like his Namor in that pic (and the rest of those issues) but there's no hope for Hope is there?
>>
>>77870950

Wait how the fuck does he have the Extremis and Bleed Edge armour still? He was a part of those armours?!

Why the fuck would be need another armour wasn't the Bleeding Edge the most powerful armour he had?
>>
>>77870807
man too rad for me to care about bendis, Marquez is stealing the show
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>>77876707
Eh I gotta admit I'm a fan of schedule bitch as a character archetype, just me?
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>>77917099
Yes it was. Classic bait and switch cover. Fuck that shit.
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>>77919485
Because Bendis wanted to make the most powerful Iron Man armor that does just about anything it now also has the power of the Extremis and Bleeding Edge which is the main armor he's using right now.
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>>77919806
Not really. I'm kinda enjoying her as well
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