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>>77851790
diamond is fucking us since diamond won't do newstands and grocery stores. and diamonds stranglehold is because marvel fucked us

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>>77851790
Not muh

>>77851790
Reminders that LCS laid their chips on ANAD and are getting less than expected numbers selled as a result.

When's the next issue even out? Has it been cancelled?

I have bought a copy of every issue and will buy the TPB so don't look at me.

>>77852078
>buying the same thing twice
Keks like you should kill themselves.

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>>77852057
Tomorrow, apparently. I don't like the cover art.

I asked my LCS a few weeks ago if they had issue 5 and they said they'd only ordered 4 issues and they'd sold out. I went today and happened to find a copy in the past issues section. It was strange. But damn, it was quite a bit cheaper than the other comics I bought

It's both, probably.
I only buy the digital issues, so I'm not helping sales numbers. But there's no way in hell I'm buying the floppies.

>>77852292
actually, the cover's starting to grow on me

>>77852292
Maybe someone had it on their pull list and didn't want it or had already picked it up.
Maybe a delinquent pull list, too.

>caring about this shitty comic
You know I actually gave it chance despite Prez's redesign being disgusting but it ended up being unfunny anyway

>>77852331
That makes sense actually, cheers

As I was reading #5 I realised that every damn page is gold

>>77852253
I'm buying it for a friend

>>77851790
DC a shit at marketing and lcs are pro Marvel

that's all there is to it

>>77851927
>diamond is fucking us since diamond won't do newstands and grocery stores.

Diamond doesn't handle newsstand distribution, it's a different distributor that does that.

>>77851790
I'm surprised DC is still making a sequel knowing the sales are so bad.

>>77852724
Has it been solicited yet?

>>77851790
Not my LCS.

The owner and I have been pushing that book on just about anyone who'll listen.

>>77852766
Why are you pushing your bad taste on others

>>77852804
>bad taste

You are a fucking fool if you think Prez is bad.

So, I came into this thread thinking it had something to do with a teenage Storm. I actually tend to like DC better, but what the hell is Prez?

>>77852850
Teenage girl becomes president. think it's supposed to be some kind of commentary on the hashtag generation

>>77852850
It's a shitty sequel to the Prez comics of the 70s that thinks it's has good satirical wit.

>>77852834
It is bad. In fact, it's worse than bad. It's on the level of North's Squirrel Girl, even in art style.

>>77852894
>>77852912
She's black. Does it talk about racism and police brutality and shit? That could be an interesting comic. Is it unfunny to you because it's too essjay dubya-ish or is it legitimately just straight up bad? Can we see some pages?

There's nothing wrong with hashtags when they're actually used to indicate that a thing is related to a specific topic or for archival purposes.

It will likely sell a lot better in trade and with proper marketing (DiDio likes it, it's possible) it will be way more likely to find an audience with book retailers then it ever did in comic shops.

>>77852724
Maybe they'll market it this time. Shit is so fucking topical, they called everything from Trump 2.0 to Deez Nutz.

>>77852942
She's not black, she's future-brown, but the comic goes satirical into healthcare costs, foreign wars, budget appropriations, unilateral military action, consumer behavior, and a theoretical post-unregulated-capitalism America.

I strongly suggest you try the first issue and see if the sense of humor appeals to you.

>>77852956

>Maybe they'll market it this time.

But they did, it just didn't sell anon.

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>>77852391
Found Boss Smiley

I take solace in that Prez sells better than the last few comics Ales Kot has tried to publish.

>>77852942
Prez is not black, just tumblr ambiguous brown.

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Proof that the art level is about the same, Prez has a better inker but it still has sloppy shit come through, the art in issue 2 for example

>>77853219
One of these comics has backgrounds and actions occurring on-panel. Only one. That's an important detail you're overlooking.

>>77853219
The one on the right looks like a rough draft of the left.

>>77853219
It's not the style that Henderson uses that is bad. It's the penciling, the inking and the coloring that makes it look like shit compared to the example on the left.

>>77853219
Prez has backgrounds and faces that aren't complete shit. The pages aren't full of word balloons either

>>77851927
Marvel is now in gamestop though

>>77853219
>Left
>Has Backgrounds
>Distinct Faces
>Right
>HURR DURR AUTIST FACES
>Solid Colors for background

>>77851790
No one buys it. No Batman. No Harley Quinn. No comfy same-old, same-old shit.

... And I am sad. I want more, damn it.

>>77851984

He's vice president

Las issue kinda turned me off

America has nothing to apologize for when it comes to Japan. A land invasion would have increased civilian casualties dramatically and the Japanese were pre warned

>>77852942
>>77853136

>just tumblr ambiguous brown.

She literally just got a tan. You see that shes white in the first issue and shes sun bathing in the second

Is Section Eight done this week too?

>>77856623

I think so. May be delayed.

>>77851790
>Do we even deserve nice things?
No, that's why this book exists in the first place. Now, if you had started with Omega Men, Gotham by Midnight or Martian Manhunter on the otherhand...

>>77856739

Gotham by Midnight is shit. Just give me the Specter, I don't care about those other faggots

>>77856441
Nagasaki I feel is unclear

>>77851790
It's still getting its twelve issues through a second mini, don't have a conniption.

>>77857162
I can't believe you'd tell me to do that.

>>77851790
>That haircut

fucking nope right out of my LCS

>>77857227

This is why I ignored it at first. I'm 100% sure if they went with the original design sales would be up 8000 at least

>>77857227
How many comic graphic T's did you own before big bang theory?

>A bad comic isn't selling

What's so astonishing about this?

When the fuck did /co/ turn against Prez?

>>77857548
right now to piss you off

>>77857548

We didn't. It's one ass blasted faggot. I'm positive he's the guy from an earlier thread who hates the New 52 for replacing "his" characters without even reading any of it

>>77853219
well on the other hand it seems the writer knows when to let the art do the story telling

also Squirrel Girl is far more static and over-reliant on (terrible) close-up faces

and it doesn't have backgrounds

Is this comic any good?

>>77859112
yes

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>>77859112
Depends from person to person. I liked it, because it retained the craziness of the original Prez but with some political commentary thrown in. Others may not like it for that very reason.

Read the first issue and make your own judgement.

Also, the fact that this is selling so poorly makes my dream of an Earth-47 ongoing all the more distant.

>>77851790
Does it make me a bad person for trade waiting on this title? Should I have been supporting it week by week?

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>>77859112

Hilarious, on multiple levels. Also pretty sad at times.

>>77859290
The sales numbers you normally see are how many issues LCS's actually order. So technically, DC got its money already. But had you supported it more, your LCS might have purchased more.

It's really hard to say, as a title like Prez was never going to sell well (the original had only four issues). We should be happy it's at least getting twelve, and then recommend it to any newcomer who wanders in here.

In short, just enjoy the ride.

>>77859112
It's excellent, ignore shitposters.

>>77859276
Damn. I didn't even realize this when I read Multiversity. Every time I think something is a new idea...

>>77859503
Fun fact: All the heroes there aren't original.

Prez and Brother Power are obvious. Sunshine Supes, Speed Freak, and Magic Lantern were all in Morrison's run of Animal Man. And Shooting Star came from a What If story where Bruce Wayne was inspired by a comet.

It's sad, because there a lot of ideas, both funny and serious, that could come from a 60s-era superhero team.

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>>77860804
what is this meant to prove

>>77851790
>DC makes a sidecut-having brown girl the president of the United States
>not a peep out of social media

>Marvel makes a male character female or makes Spiderwoman preggo
10/10 BEST BOOK OF THE YEAR SO PROGRESSIVE 1,000,000 COPIES SOLD

No, I'd say we're getting exactly what we deserve.

>>77861657
We don't deserve this, /co/'s been rooting for Prez since day 1.

>>77861657
not just any sidecut-having brown girl, but a TEENAGE sidecut-having brown girl

if there's any more need for proof that Tumblr and friends don't read comic books, it's Prez

>>77861778
And have you been shilling it to your friends?
Have you been whoring it on social media?
Because that's what Disney has Tumblr and Twitter doing for Unreadable Hamgirl and Social Justice Spider and My Little Preggy. "Good vibes" and imageboard circlejerks aren't enough to save a book, friendo.

>>77861808
Yes and yes, I totally have been.

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>>77861836
And have you convinced those same friends to shill it to their friends?
Have you started obnoxious hashtags and deliberately baited the competition to increase visibility?

If you haven't, you're still not operating on anything close to Disney's level. They can and do pay people to do this all day.

>>77861876
Okay, I'm no longer on your side, you lunatic.

>>77851790
>Prez #5 - 8,098

Depressing as fuck.

>>77861978
this is the kind of book that kills in trades I hope

and honestly, a lot of the new DCYou series are pretty obvious tradebait, and it seems like DC is shifting more and more to the trade market, what with more Earth Ones and Multiversity Too

they're just letting Marvel grasp at the last few scraps of the floppy market while they go in and sweep up at bookstores

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Picked up the newest issue. I'm excited guys, I'll let you know how it is.

>>77861897
Gosh, I don't know what I'll do without your support. It was clearly so helpful to Prez.

>>77852912
>It's a shitty sequel to the Prez comics of the 70s that thinks it's has good satirical wit.

Oh come the fuck on. How can you not enjoy jokes like the weed robot or kickstarter for healthcare, a killer drone that acquires sentience and wants to be called by a girl's name or Farmaduke?

>>77862203
I don't see you helping.

>>77862137
This issue was pretty solid.

Tina the transgender robot and Ross' storylines converge, there's a character (who I'm not sure is a reference to one of the trinity members) that helps corndog girl with the corporations, and the series is definitely continuing after this issue. The ending had a short dialogue with someone whose cat had caught the cat flu and it was kind of touching, considering the source.

>>77856441

Well there is the whole extended firebombing campaign that razed largely areas that consisted of just civilian population and no strategic military targets.

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DC books seem to fit the tpb model better than floppy sales. They have an overarching plot in mind and when you read the floppies, it just seems incomplete. Pic related is a good example

Marvel on the other hand are made for single issues. Each issue has that hook factor but when you stop to look back at the story you've been reading so far, you only find yourself looking at a pile of dried shit

Notice how Lumberjanes is only a couple of spots higher than Prez yet that comic is stillmgoing strong.

There are independent comics that sold considerably less than Prez which will keep on going. X-O Manowar, Abe Sapien, Barb Wire just to name a few.

Prez is one of the best comics on the market today. If what happened to it is anybody's fault, it's exclusively the fault of DC Comics.

>>77862137
I know there was a column at the end of the last issue that said this would be a miniseries.

Was there anything at the end of this issue?

>>77856441
The airforce went around setting women, children and the elderly on fire for months.

The atomic bombs are a shit compared to the fact that they went out on their way to torch all the non-combattants they could hit FIRST.

>>77853029
>goes satirical into
the comic doesn't go satirical into anything.
what little political analysis there is is naive and superficial at best.
there is nothing interesting in the comic aside from the art

>>77864263
There's a different floor on what's selling good for indie comics and what's selling good for Big 2 Comics.

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>>77853219
Caldwell's art is leagues better

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Why are comic shops to blame for following the hoops the big two controling the industry have laid out for them?

A book like Prez isn't gonna sell in this market. Hell, it might have more of a chance if it was over at Image. Smaller publishers like them are the real hope for the industry. The big two are just niche publishing branches of big media conglomerates trying to push IP recycled for 70 odd years so they can make movies and tv shows.

The big two are dinosaurs who should not control the industry the way they do.DC and Marvel are Exxon Mobil and BP. They are Leman Bros and Bear Sterns. They are a sick abusive old way of doing business.

Unless Marvel and DC completely change their game or smaller publishers finally chip away the control the big two have over the industry... I honestly do not see much hope for it. Things seem worse than the 90s, the inflation of sales by cheap gimmicks seem worse than they ever were then.

>>77865380
Not to sound like a DCfag, but it's kind of unfair to pair them with Marvel right now, considering Marvel is doing the lion's share of absolutely toxic business practices

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>>77861797
...or moreso proof that DC can't market to women for shit.

Rememeber Minx? I swear the old boys club at DC created that girls line of comics to fail to prove their insistance that women don't read comics.

You know, even though the job of editors and marketing is to sell books to more people, not keep catering to the same shrinking fanbase of 18-35 and probrably to 50+ year old white guys. Nevermind the reboot alienated many of them.

Of course when you hired a buncha Marvel idiots like Bob Harras and a buncha Wizard staffers, is it any wonder they look like they are only trying to appeal to what 16-20 year old guys in 1994 liked?

It's 2015, people. It is... twenty fifteen.

>>77865380
>A book like Prez isn't gonna sell in this market.
>Hell, it might have more of a chance if it was over at Image.

So, what, the lesson to learn from this is that only small publisher's are allowed to do books like Prez? The market really is fucking toxic if that's the case. Self-fulfilling prophecy fucking everything up once again.

>>77864947

This looks so good.

>>77852643
Yes, that's the problem.

>>77864836
That's the publishers' fault for making those different "floors".

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>>77865414
Eh. They seem like two slightly different yet both horrible brands of toxic sludge to me.

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>>77865434
The comics aren't even important anymore.

As long as movies, TV shows, video games and merchandise remain billion dollar industries, this is the state comics will remain in.

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>>77865476
Adorable.

>>77865434
DC threw away their whole identity to attract new readers

Now they're just Marvel Lite with worst art and no continuity or consistency

the only thing keeping them afloat is the bi yearly Jim Lee comic and their genius variant covers months.

>>77865512
Horrible is more like it.

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>>77865541
more like kill it with fire

>>77865516
So according to you, DC's identity was "boring, godawful grimderp crap for the kind of retards who read Deadpool"?

Because that is exactly what most of DC has been since the New 52. And long before that as well.

>>77865562
First step would be for you to stop watching their movies.

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>>77865516
..but.. anon.. story trumps continuity.

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>>77865577
Can i still buy their coloring books and t-shirts and breakfast cereal?

>>77865600
You can, but then you won't have a right to complain.

At least as long as you continue to namefag you won't.

>>77852292
im still sad that DC blocked them on making anymore covers that were remakes of famous presidental moments from paintings and photos. the first two covers were the best ones and it was a fairly clever idea.

>>77866584

Was there a reason for that?

>>77866594
i don't remember. the writer talked about it in an interview with either CBR or Newsarama. They got a direct order to not make them because I guess some higher up thought it might offend people? it's kind of stupid no matter what the reason is.

I want to take Beth on a date.

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If no one minds, I think I'll take advantage of this thread.

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And that's it for this mini!

>>77867159
Thanks man

>>77859276
I would kill for an Earth-47 title. Add Super-Hip to that lineup and it would be perfect.

>>77867154
Yeah, sure. Certainly is quite the hiatus we're having, almost as if they're waiting for trade sales of volume 1 to see if a volume 2 would even be worth it.

>>77867097
Kreigslist. Heh.

Bump so people see and read it.

Now to just wait for the trade.

bump for reading

>>77867029

Thank you.

>>77867119
>the southwest feels like a giant litterbox
oh god

>>77867110
fucking REKT

>>77867110
Okay, that's actually kind of badass.

Feels like they packed a lot in this issue. It works since everything is glacial when it comes to politics so jumping around the timeline to highlights works.
I continue to love this with every issue and weep for the fact that it might get canceled at any moment. Which is oddly fitting considering the fate of the original...
Maybe I'm just starved out for future insanity in the vein of Transmet.

>>77867944
They could also be holding off to stock up enough new political material to satirize...
Though given Trump's recent behavior, that might not be necessary

Either way, I'm adding the trade for this to my pull list ASAP and pimping the fuck out of it once it comes out

>>77867115
Batman everyone. Being rich is a superpower.

>>77867159
Thanks. Prez is always a fun read.

>>77867154
Thanks for posting. I hope we do get the second half. I kind of expect it by the June solicits.

>>77867159

Thanks for the story time, off to ComiXology to buy. I loved that whorehouse bit of dialog in particular.

>>77873601
They might wait until they have an idea of the trade sales.

>>77867154
>>77867159
Thank you for the story time.

>>77867115
Cold as FUCK and I LOVE IT!

>>77867092
RUINED

>>77867054
>lgbtqR
fucking lost it
my god, for how terrible prez looked in previes and issue 1, it stepped it the fuck up

>>77873601
>>77874298
I'm still under the assumption that the second half will be released closer to or during the 2016 Presidential race, likely to help attempt to boost sales through being concurrent with ongoing events.

>>77867092
>Don't you want to tweet your accomplishment?
>No, that's okay. I got enough love as a child.
SHOTS FIRED

>>77867110
fucking savage

>>77867037

>Noon of Justice