Jedi Code - Edition
>Newest Rebels Episode: Stealth Strike:
>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
>Star Wars: Rebels MEGA (Season 1):
>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
>Star Wars: Uprising: ( /co/ Cartel: Loth-Cats )
>Star Wars: Commander ( /co/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad )
>All Canon Novels and Comics: (Including the Rebels UK Comics)
>Star Wars Audiobooks (Canon and Legends) and Motion Comics:
>Star Wars Legends Novels (Incomplete):
>Canon Guide & Timeline:
>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
>Star Wars Soundtracks MEGA (Work-in-Progress):
So to nobodies surprise, the Battle of Jakku looks great, but the content is lacking, and it's glaringly obvious at this point.
Plus Turning Point literally only has 1 playable map.
Also, I tried looking for nods to Lost Stars, but I gave up because there is literally fucking hundreds of things falling fro the skies, or already crashed to the ground. I don't think I have the sanity to try and see if any of them is an individual nod to the book.
Also there's a painful lack of weapons I am just discovering.
>1 Targeting Rifle
>3 Blasters, two of which are the Rebel/Empire defaults, and the third is just Boba Fetts gun unlock-able to use on your regular soldier.
Come the fuck on.
On the plus side, that Targeting Rifle is perfect, got 30 kills on my second game of Turning Point with it.
Anybody else playing Battlefront, or did EA/Dice completely turn you away from the game?
>an Askajian without butterface
do we have any drawfriends?
I've already read all the spoilers but I'm probably going to leave this place when the LA premiere happens because I don't want any little things spoiled for me. Shit like the internet exploding with 'Remember that part where Leia said some Rebel named Fulcrum helped train Luke after Episode 6!!! Ahsoka confirmed!!!!!'
Based Depa Billaba.
Uh oh.....looks like you guys FUCKED IT UP AGAIN.
We got an awesome link to the Legends comics and no one put it in the OP
Great general, guys. Keep up the great work.
If it happens again, that's it. These threads will be shut down.
>Does anyone give a genuine shit about kallus anymore?
Many of us care about him, but we know that he won't last the series and his jobber status, unfounded or not, and him working with Vader is a death sentence for many Imperials in Star Wars. I think there is some YouTube/Rebels vid that touches on this subject.
Do you like Figran D'an and the Modal Nodes?
Ask your mom. Because she sure made me jizz like a cannon.
>Hey! We don't serve their kind here!
no, we paint sexy girls from anywhere on our airplanes.
Our army used to do it a lot during WW2 and Vietnam and the Clone Wars was the WW2/Vietnam of Star Wars.
>mfw people here complain about "OT PANDERING REEEEEE"
You're thinking of the Inflictor, a regular Star Destroyer.
The one in the WebM is the Ravager, the final SSD in the Empire (Which you also see on Sullust taking off)
It is currently unknown if Rae Sloane is aboard the Ravager, but I suspect she is. Seemed to be building up to that in Aftermath.
>Literally nobody is currently doing that
>Posting for the sake of starting an argument when people are happy enjoying their discussions
Come on anon, have fun with us! Life's too short to be arguing on Mongolian imageboards.
Oh, I don't mean leaving for Jakku. It's just taking off in general. The Battle of Sullust does take place before Endor.
Don't know where I would even find that anon, sorry. I just know because I have the game.
wait so can super star destroyers and star destroyers LAND on a planets surface?!
I thought they could only maintain some time on the planets orbit before they crash by their own weight
i'm really confused right now
>post people you want to be involved in a future SW film
Which SW comic do I read to see slave Ahsoka?
>friends start linking me Jar Jar sith theories
>people actually thinking he'll be in Fore Awakens
Are people serious with this?
its only the casual and normalfag fans that do think that.
When you actually look at the evidence for that theory it sort of makes sense but there's no way Lucas planned that.
If it was true then that would have been one hell of a twist and certainly would have made the prequels watchable
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wow he sounds like the most jewish director I've ever heard speak ever.
Is that a fucking Givin on the far left?
>Darth Bane Sith fantasy movie made by Del Toro
>National Board of Review names Mad Max: Fury Road best film of the year
Suck it Star Wars fags. Abandon ship to /mmg/
>liking more than one thing
Go back to /a/
You haven't given me a reason to treat them like anything else.
You can and you should. That Anon is retarded.
>mfw I agree with them because while TFA will probably be my favorite movie this year I admit it's not as original as it should be and will probably be the weakest of the new trilogy
Those fans desperately want to find something that could redeem this terrible character. That's why they force themselves to believe this theory that explains away his retarded antics and gives his character a "deeper meaning". It's a nice theory, but people need to realize that Lucas created Jar Jar to sell more toys, and for no other reason.
>Doesn't even address why some fans questioned a black stormtrooper
You're the one who decided to erase all SW media from the canon except the movies & the clone wars cartoon you stupid fuck JJ.
So far as people know Stormtroopers are clones.
Speaking of, I hope they explain that at some point in the movie so the normalfags aren't confused by it because it really does deserve an explanation in the main film saga. Like have Finn say "I was a Stormtrooper for the First Order" and Rey responds "I thought all Stormtroopers were clones?" and Finn replies "No, they stopped using clones right after the Clone Wars. The clones were made to only useful for a few years and after that they started getting worse so they had to hire normal people to be soldiers."
No to shut up retards. I would rather have a little 10 second 'Hey Stormtroopers aren't clones anymore' than years of retards asking "I DONT GET IT WHY DOESNT HE LOOK LIKE JANGO??"
R5 Droids are the best model of Astromech in the galaxy. You should totally buy like two of these little guys. R2 units are so outdated.
Alright, bad reference, I'll give you that, but the point still stands.
So what if they've been around since 1909? That doesn't make them immune from criticism or disagreement.
And what the fuck MAKES them so prestigious anyway?
>Odds are when you have a Star Wars question on the Internet, you end up on Wookieepedia
>DAT EU QUESTION
>DAT NIHLUS MENTION
JJ IS THE HERO WE DESERVE.
he also confirmed that pablo is the EU Czar
>'George bombed out 3 times'
>made massive profits on each movie
>'you hit a home run with Star Trek'
>neither movie made as much money as any of the prequels
>didn't even make as money as the OT unadjusted for inflation
Why is Howard Stern allowed to exist still?
>wait so can super star destroyers and star destroyers LAND on a planets surface?!
Venators did so just fine in RotS. Don't see why there'd be any trouble with Star Destroyers or Super Star Destroyers.
We've also seen Star Destroyers flying in atmosphere on Lothal.
>I thought they could only maintain some time on the planets orbit before they crash by their own weight
That's not canon, it's from some Legends source.
>We've also seen Star Destroyers flying in atmosphere on Lothal.
And bombing Garel
cover for the TFA Incredible Cross-Sections has been released
So what's going to be different from Poe's black X-Wing to the normal T-70s?
Buffed with heavy weaponry and/or faster?
The Knights of Ren actually slaughtered a bunch of ewoks, not some jedi remnant
Friendly reminder that we should thank Based Weisman for the third season of Rebels. For it he had stayed around, it would've been cancelled after the second season.
I'm a few chapters deep into Star Wars Battlefront Twilight Company.
Wow, have all Star Wars audiobooks been of this quality the whole time? Or is this just a 'new movie promotion' level of quality? All the sound effects, John Williams score, they make these books a lot of fun to read. I also read Lost Stars...
I liked the Lost Stars connection in the Battlefront Jakku teaser.
I also find it interesting that the book for Battlefront doesn't feel like a shitty tie-in. The narrator is either selling this dialogue, or this is really well written...
I was thinking of eventually picking it up. Is it just about battles and skirmishes here and there or is it more than that? Thanks in advance for your input.
>Greg "Everything I love dies" Weisman
It still hurts. Like the poor fucker must have a curse on him.
>tfw this is actually the first time I'm seeing this
>Venators did so just fine in RotS.
Venators and Acclamators did a lot of the same in TCW
So far it's about a rag tag team of rebels (Who are kind of scumbags) transporting a high-value Imperial prisoner who surrendered to them.
There was a chapter about a young, female stormtrooper, but it hasn't gotten deep into that yet.
I think I'm going to write a story where Hera is a slave and Kanan is a dark side user.
In the end, it turns out they were
>TCW team will never have unlimited budget again
>they will never get to make AU episodes just for kicks
shit feel tbqh
>Wow, have all Star Wars audiobooks been of this quality the whole time? Or is this just a 'new movie promotion' level of quality?
Pretty much, yes. It's why they're as recommended as they are. Especially if they're Marc Thompson readings
Fuck you know what I just realized? You just know there's going to be some shooting or something at a theater when TFA comes out. I hope at the very least it only happens once and we don't hear much about it because that's really going to bum me out.
>You just know there's going to be some shooting or something at a theater when TFA comes out.
g_d bless america
Give me some time and I'll make some proper Phasma pin ups.
>Ya damn right I'd submit my blaster.
She is my new fav next to Ahsoka and Bo Katan.
>@Pablo_Hidalgo are breasts still canon? There's no canon page on Wookiepedia
>Pablo sheds a single tear, knowing he'll always be covered with Star Wars questions when getting coffee
>implying the perpetrator won't be dressed as Kylo Ren and decapitate people with his homemade sword
Those ships are lying on their bellies, as if they were taken in to crash but keep the integrity of the ship.
Ree is trying to kill herself and destroy most of the ship to not fall into Rebel hands. So, it makes sense she would take it nose first seeing as how it would cause the most damage. It'd probably completely destroy it.
She was pretty sweet. Her AND her padawan.
>saying opinions can't be right or wrong on 4chan of all places
>I'm the simple one
You're fuckin with me.
Does Lords of The Sith get better? I just got done with the part where Cham blackmails the Imperial guy.
Aftermath was slow, but at least the interludes were interesting enough to keep reading till stuff started happening.
>incredibly cross section becoming canon again
>insane power levels in bound
>in Rebels we hear about the Empire using children as soldiers but we can assume they only patrolled around streets instead of fighting because the Galactic Civil War wasn't big then
>comic or something in between the OT where you see a group of Imperial child soldiers realize the Empire is evil so they try and join the Rebels but the Rebels argue about whether they should let the kids become soldiers or not since they don't have the resources to take care of them and sending them back to the Empire would simply ruin their lives as they would be branded traitors
>at the end of the story there's some seemingly nice little message of 'it doesn't matter who you are you should fight for what's right' but the kids get completely fucked up and realize that both the Rebels and the Empire were wrong and kids shouldn't have to fight wars
>tfw we will never get a Star Wars Johnny Mad Dog and we'll just keep seeing something obviously fucked up (kids fighting in wars) being turned into wasted potential
Hey, does anyone have a walpaper of this? I cant find any that look ok?
Look at the ships on the left half, from the end scene of AOTC
Look, Im just going off that one picture. I'm not that big of a fucking nerd like you guys. I just like talking about Star Wars, not the mechanics of ships we never really got a lot of background of.
Nothing. Howard Stern just said something like "Yeah I didn't know that much about the EU until studying for this episode. Like there was a Darth Nihlus and everything."
Interestingly enough though JJ said that while shooting TFA he would email Pablo about the EU every day to see if he could adapt things from the EU into the movie.
i really think its such an important detail. But i really think they cant land. We would have had already seen it in rebels.
I guess the Sullust case is an optical ilusion, and it gives the feeling that they are taking off
+ even and super star destroyer?
>BIG TOR ANNOUNCEMENT TOMORROW
>I BET THEY'RE GOING TO CONFIRM IT'S CANON
>FUCK YES RAKATA PRIME IS CANON AND SO IS HK-47shutuppablo KOTOR IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE FULLY RECANONIZED 100%
>THEY'RE GOING TO ANNOUNCE THIS WATCH
>announcement is subscriber rewards
Would they really make the entire era Canon though? LSG have been very safe and cautious with what they add to the nucanon most of the time. I don't see them doing that when they won't even make the fantasy flight games sourcebooks canon even though they collaborated and took things from the nucanon for them. I'll be surprised if they canonise an entire game. Doesn't seem like them, they're too lazy to let that much through all at once. They're probably just making HK-47 canon and a few other things.
No, it's never going to happen. They may make something similar, even very similar, and you could even go out and say that 50-60% of the stuff in the KOTOR/TOR universe may one day be recanonized, but the chances of any of the games being recanonized wholesale is zero.
You're right, it's better styled as it usually is
They sort of are. It's just a matter of defining them beyond their anchored appearance in canon so far (I forget what game they show up in, someone will have to fact check me. On that note, I'm not sold on the canon Purge Trooper design. I kind of miss the giant, lumbering cortosis droid).
BF2 isn't canon, nor is EaW. They aren't in TFU, unless they show up in the DLC or something. None of which are canon, anyway. All of which were awesome fun and I hope canon gives us any games even half as good soon. Also I'm on a nostalgia high right now.
>After the New Republic takes over Coruscant they start going through all the databases of the Empire.
>The Empire deleted tons of info on the Republic and the Jedi.
>Luke has to go off barely anything to recreate the Jedi.
>What little stuff he has to go off of are things so huge/important that involved Jedi that they seem impossible. Things like Jedi making enemies think there is an entire fleet in battle meditation as a last chance to defend themselves, etc.
>This gives Luke the feeling some religious people feel when they read things like Moses parting the sea where they can't honestly believe something like that would ever happen. Luke can't shake the feeling that he's reading fairy tales when he reads about things the Jedi did.
>This creates conflict in Luke when starting the Jedi up again.
I hope they do something like this.
>mfw the older, better Jedi code is forever canon
The Empire is still in control of the Core. Mon Monthma negotiated an end to hostilities before the New Republic could make a play towards the Core Worlds because she didn't want the new government to be on a permanent war footing.
It's weird, thinking about all the knowledge lost because of Sheev's ambition legitimately makes me kinda sad. Like, Force users won't be the same anymore, unless a miracle holocron appears. Sith never had a penchant for sharing info, and the Jedi are all but gone and all those techniques, forms, stories of temptation and famed Jedi and Sith of past are just.. gone.
This kind of stuff happens all the time. The Library of Alexandria for example. It had a collection of almost every book in the western world at the time. Boom, fire, gone.
Sheevs a dick. He thought his regime would last thousands of years, and hed be at the head of it. There would be no needs for holocrons or anything. Just Sheev and his apprentice of the week.
>Being such an autistic fan boy
While all Star Wars film have helped shape pop culture in one way or another. All of them don't have the best scripts, directing or acting. TFA or the rest of the new saga won't be any different.
I just imagine him fact-checking shit with Anakin and Obi-Wan hanging around him.
>"Battle of Mustafar?"
>"Yes, Luke that's very true."
>"Well what Father?"
>"Well, the transcript here makes it seem like I went down like a bitch."
>"Listen here Anakin, you came at me without any regard for the high ground."
>"Bull-fucking shit Mr. 'Master Blaster'."
>"ANAKIN! I swear if you bring that up one more time-"
>"Ben? Dad? Can we just stay on task here."
>"Just skip it son, go to the attack on the Jedi temple. That's sure to make me look like a badass."
I'm not even defending TFA, I actually don't think that it'll be that good.
These guys are just being retarded thinking that because some board full of hoity toity cunts declaring something the best movie of the year invalidates any and all further discussion or dissenting opinion.
I wonder if it's any better than Heir to the Jedi, which I am (unfortunately) in the middle of reading. At around the halfway point, things go from lazily dawdling to downright goofy, and I hate that this shit got approved somehow. Why are almost all the books so mediocre at this point? Even with heavier regulation we're still getting the old EU's dumb shit syndrome.
Ravager is supposedly the last SSD, according to what Rae Sloane tells the other imperials in Aftermath, but shortly before she calls Pandion she admits that she lied and the Empire has other weapons hidden
you might be thinking of the ISD Inflictor, of which Ciena Ree was the captain. supposing that webm IS of Ravager (which would spoil the end of Aftermath: Empire's End), then both Ravager and Inflictor went down on Jakku, with both appearing in TFA
Well the Jedi had gone legit retarded at that point, so a cleansing was probably for the best. Allows the new era to move ahead and find its own footing rather than looking to the past.
No, you're being deliberately obtuse. Instead of figuring this shit out, you're internet-yelling about the age of the National Board of Review', strawmanning points about the nature of opinions and facts, and making disingenuous comparisons to the KKK.
Right? Aftermath was boring as shit till 2/3 of the way in. It set up everything so fucking slow, and some of it didnt even pay off.
I read Rise of Lord Vader over the weekend and it was so much better. It lulled a little in the middle, like the stuff with the smugglers in the beginning, but for the most part is was great. Vader's suit stuff, the aftermath of Order 66, and the stuff with Bail Organa was great.
Aftermath felt like comic script turned into a book. It wouldn't surprise me if it was.
it seems they have SOME problems in atmosphere, because the ISD Herald struggles on Sullust in Battlefront: Twilight Company:
"We’re in atmosphere,” he said, embarrassed at his own urgent tone. “We need full power to stay aloft. Any disruption at all—” Star Destroyers were extraordinary vessels, capable of razing mountains and carrying armies. But their mass was measured in millions upon millions of tonnes, and their energy requirements were vast."
to be fair, this is after
Everi Chalis knocks out a bunch of electronics with EMP grenades
I'd be pleased if they showed more divisions within the Jedi order. The prequels presented the whole organization as pretty monolithic with Qui-Gon as more of an outsider than anything. I remember reading in Labyrinth of Evil how some of the Jedi had even gone over to fight alongside the Separatists. Hoping that ends up canon.
>the age of the National Board of Review
And how it is irrellevant.
>strawmanning points about the nature of opinions and facts
It'd be really helpful to me if you showed me where I did that.
That may sound disingenuous, but I actually mean it. Show me where I was strawmanning, and I'll apologize.
>making disingenuous comparisons to the KKK
That WAS dumb, and I actually already apologized for it.
Okay, really simple example:
I have X opinion regarding some political whatsit.
Another person has Y opinion on the matter.
The reality of the situation is reflected better in X opinion than in Y opinion.
Ergo, there is an overlap between opinion and fact.
Some even opted to stay out of the war completely on the belief that the Order's fighting a war was incompatible with its beliefs. They were right, but they also shirking their duty to the Republic - which was the unfortunate paradox the Jedi faced in the Clone Wars. Mace Windu went to renegotiate their stance on the conflict and eventually brought them back to the fold after they fended off an assassination attempt by Asajj Ventress. This was in one of the Dark Horse comics, "Jedi - Mace Windu"
The age of an organization only has bearing for the backlog or catalog of its work and portfolio. Criticizing or suspecting that a long-lived organization dedicated to the support and recognition of achievements in film due to its age is in and out of itself irrelevant as a form of criticism.
In the original situation cited, we were discussing the state of film in 2015. How exactly is the fact that the National Board of Review is over 100 years old entirely relevant to this discussion beyond that they are relatively well-known and have an expansive portfolio of work in this regard? What bearing does that have on their capabilities to review or judge films?
Those capabilities are more related to their actual criteria, which does not necessarily correlate to the age of the institution or how well known it is.
In your original post you cast the NBR's selection of the film as a reflection of "opinion". This misunderstood the nature of the NBR's selection process and cast the selection as the result of one individual rather than that of a committee.
You later stated that opinions cannot be right or wrong. This misunderstands the nature of opinion or points of view in relation to the information which is used as the basis for opinions or points of view. Information is used for the basis of opinion, you can have an informed and uninformed opinion, and the information that can make up that opinion can in and out of itself be miscast. The inclusion of an opinion or a point of view into an evaluation of a film does not necessarily render the entire selection purely subjective. Yet this was the conclusion you clearly supported in your first post, casting the selection of Mad Max as 'opinion'.
Okay, I get it, but I don't think that sort of thing can be applied to art and the quality thereof the same way it can be applied to politics. Arguing politics involves bringing statistics and evidence to the table, which are both quantifiable. Art only involves opinion because people see all sorts of different things in art and none are necessarily wrong. Some people might look an aspect of a book or movie and see it as a strength, and someone else might see it as a weakness. Who is to say that either of them are right or wrong?
And yet there is considerable scholarship on the evaluation of art and the relationship of art to the viewer. Questions such as how art can produce meaning, what forms of meaning are more valuable, and what the nature of meaning and reception within the audience form the backbone of aesthetic argument.
Simply leaving discussion of art at the level of uninformed subjective opinion might be acceptable for casual/polite discussion of art, but it borders on neglect to ignore the debates and viewpoints of artists who have discussed this topic over a very lengthy period of time. It handwaves a lot of differing viewpoints with a rather weak reliance on relativism.
>some people might look an aspect of a book or movie and see it as a strength, and someone else might see it as a weakness.
This reminds me of the time I visited Chuck Wendig's blog and he was talking about the criticism he got for Aftermath. Apparently his writing style was not "bad," merely not a lot of people's tea.
I have to wonder at what point we're supposed to draw the line. At whatever is convenient for the author? Sounds suspect.
Opinions, informed or not, are still just that.
Also, informed is a relative term. Informed by what? A vast knowledge of film? Okay, understandable, but there are many different outlets to extract that knowledge from that can fundamentally alter how people view films. In the simplest terms, did this person read this or that book or attend this or that college course or lecture on film? No? That doesn't make them LESS informed, that makes them DIFFERENTLY informed. They could have read different (no less informative) books and attended/listened to different (no less informative) college lectures and courses.
Again, you're moving goalposts. Informed opinions on art are created by considering the greater dialectic within which that piece of art is placed. There is no way to characterize this aside in general terms, but in practice people will be discussing works of art not in a vacuum but in an atmosphere where their opinions and information have been shaped by discourse. Sometimes this information is consciously shown, sometimes its unconsciously formed.
Simply because something is differently informed does not mean that the opinion is equally valid. Bringing in an informed opinion on a painting's frame, with a detailed knowledge of framework and metalcrafting does not lend that opinion the same weight as somebody who knows what systems of aesthetics the painting itself might fight in.
You're trying to argue that being differently informed is sufficient to render the judgement of opinions relative. Certain information is far more relevant to the evaluation of a piece of artwork than another.
Even in your example, you're simply describing two people who would be informed about different schools of aesthetics. That does not mean that each school is equally valid, it means that the two people are operating under different systems, which might or might not be mutually exclusive depending upon the specifics of their knowledge. You are talking in generalities.
so MillenniumFalcon dropped the entire shot list, or at least what they claim to be. it's pretty much what MSW described but with some slight differences. namely,
the flashback scene with Maz seems to be more in order and omits Rey entirely, focusing on young Kylo. also there is no longer a scene where Finn consoles Han as he breaks down over Kylo's identity, nor is there a scene where Kylo has an emotional moment on the Millennium Falcon after discovering it on Starkiller Base. whether or not that means these scenes were removed or added in later, or that either MSW or MF has partially false call sheets, i've got no idea.
read it if you want to spoil yourself for what is most likely the whole movie. http://millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=9790
Guys, why is Lost Stars so good? I know I shouldn't enjoy this book so much. I know it's cheesy, fan fictioney level, outlandish young adult novel romance full of cliches like "girl/boy next door who i never realized i loved until we hit puberty and i realized they were beautiful" and destiny bringing people together over and over again. i know it's ridiculous that these characters keep showing up at every crucial moment of the OT.
but it's just. so. fun.
It is though, it implies you think the name is silly-willy and posting it is funny. You could call him Palpatine, Emperor, or Darth Sidious, which he was known as for years, but you choose Sheev because 'lel can't peev the sheev XD' ?
Fuck right off.
>b-b-but it's his real name, it's canon...
Yes it is, stop trying to make a meme out of it you slag.
How is calling a character by it's actual name trying to make it into a meme?
People don't call Luke, Master Skywalker either when they talk about him.
Why would you even get so upset over this?
Is this some kind of fucked up meta trolling that just goes over my head? Trolling people by accusing them of trolling with something that isn't actually trolling?
1080p of the new episode in about 18,5 hours, as usual
it's very much a rather obvious throwback to ANH in terms of its story, i think JJ is just gunning for getting people back into the franchise with a simple story of good vs. evil that relies on mythical archetypes
obviously rey is the new "chosen one" in the archetypal sense, luke is the "wise man in the mountain", han is the old mentor, maz is the yoda, kylo is the dark knight and hux is the tarkin, snoke is the sheev, etc. the whole first act is basically ANH verbatim in terms of its structure: figure from the [rebellion/resistance] trying to escape with [plans/lightsaber/macguffin] get captured and sends [macguffin] off with [droid/droids] on [tatooine/jakku/desert planet]. good guy gets tortured by [darth vader/kylo ren/dark knight] for information and busted out of prison. droid it finds the hero, who desperately wants to get off world, and gets his/her chance when she meets [finn/han/rogue] and [obiwan/han/old mentor], escaping from the desert planet in the millennium falcon from [imperial/first order] ships. after that the plot changes around a bit but basically throws "yoda" into the middle with the wise and diminutive force-sensitive alien and goes to not-hoth at the end which also doubles as another endor due to the "we have to take down the shields so we can blow up the super weapon!" plot
The Howard Stern interview with JJ made it sound like Disney basically made a ANH 2.0 to get the next generation of Star Wars fans hooked. Rey is trying to find out how the hell Luke Skywalker is and what the hell the Jedi are. Tbh i'm prepared for disappointment. Sounds kinda boring for somebody whose more familiar with SW, aside from seeing where the franchise is going. And it pretty much means the new canon will throw most of the old EU stuff overboard for good.
Honestly, as much as I want to avoid the trap of comparing it to other Abrams movies before it's even out, I'm expecting it to be like Star Trek: entertaining, but there's not much there to really hook you if you weren't already hooked before.
Honestly a year and a half ago I wouldn't have liked this, but seeing how people reacted to new ideas I think playing it safe for this one is a good idea. Don't wanna make someone feel like their nitpicks are justified.
I've watched the Ewok movies and the cutscenes for Dark Forces II Jedi Knight. Is there anything else post-Return of the Jedi I can watch before TFA comes out?
Honestly, some of the ideas weren't even that bad. The problem was in the execution. A young, powerful jedi falling in love and having this love manipulated by a Sith in order to get him to betray the Order? Cool! "I don't like sand, it's coarse and gets everywhere"? Less cool.
>but seeing how people reacted to new ideas I think playing it safe for this one is a good idea.
Dunno. If that was really the case they could have avoided a plasma sword with vents and stormtrooper with fuckhuege electro-tonfa or an updated stormtrooper design.
I'm kinda surprised that people actually got pretty used to the Stormtrooper design by now. I would have expected more complaining, especifically about that, since it's so iconic.
In a way I'm not even sure if they did themselves a favor with that. In a way it makes the material I've seen so far seem like it's not 'real' Star Wars, but maybe it's just me.
Would have been clever to tell a new story with new characters using old design clues, similar cinematography and the same visual language as the old movies.
Like the trademark, cheap looking cuts...
Trying to make the new film as flashy/modern as possible with fast cuts and shaky cam is gonna backfire.
If they really didn't want to take risks they probably should have taken some popular novels like the Thrawn ones and made adaptions of those. At the very least you could have already been able to tell whether or not those stories are popular with the fanbase and didn't have to deal with the idea that 'Disney ruined SW' if they just adapted something that was already there to proof they can make a good movie SET in Star Wars, if you get my drift. Once the people trust you with the 4 billion dollar franchise do your own thing...
Long story short, I suspect this is gonna be one of those movies that tries too hard to get the 'kids' to like it while also trying to appease the old fans by being super referential.
But maybe I'm just being pessimistic, because I'm afraid of the disappointment when Disney indeed turns out to have 'forever ruined SW'.
No one's really complaining now since the movie isn't out yet. If the movie is solid you never will either. Star Wars can be whatever it wants to be, but have it still feel like Star Wars. All the props and stories being made around it now makes me feel like nothings changed.
Unless something really bad happens, this movie probably won't fail to the general masses. Everyone will get woo'd by the weird practical aliens, zooming ships, and twists. Just like like OT.
Also the PT is still around so good luck saying these are worse than those if you feel that way.[spoilers]
>Also the PT is still around so good luck saying these are worse than those if you feel that way.
Really depends on what the story is.
At it's heart Star Wars is pretty popular because the story is conceptually pretty strong imo. ANH is basically textbook storytelling/writing.
The PT had terrible direction and couldn't focus or deliver at all on any of the themes and ideas it introduced. However it did add a shitton of worldbuilding.
I'll admit TCW softens my opinion on those films, because it managed to explore those things satisfyingly.
If the new film is basically just a popcorn action flick that harks back to ANH, I feel like the lack of 'substance' would play a part in how I feel about these films.
Of course it's all speculation at this point and as I said I'm somewhat pessimistic about it. I'm really curious either way though.
Here is the leaked shot list of The Force Awakens. It confirms the entire plot synopsis of MSW, but it seems like some details are still missing.
DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW ALMOST EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PLOT!
New episode of Rebels will be up in 15,5 hours
The one that already crashed, at least the one we see on the map, is not the Lost Stars one, because the engines are still on. I believe the book states the engines were disabled at one point. Also seems like it didn't land nose-diving like the book described/the one in the trailer.
It's also possible the Lost Stars one happens way earlier in the battle, before the Battlefront battle got so heavy.
Evidence towards this is the fact that Lost Stars doesn't mention other other ships crashing, and doesn't mention the SSD crashing, which could be inferred to suggest that it was one of the first to fall. We see the SSD crashing during the game, so...
Until we get more info, likely in Aftermath 2, it's all speculation based on bits and pieces from Battlefront, and it fits together with Lost Stars.
You gotta' at least read til' the space battle anon, it gets much better from there.
It's impossible to pick out which one is from ost Stars for sure, but the one in the trailer does match the description of how it fell, right down to the tilting.
The mom on this show's a qt
Is it bad that I can't tell if these are from the CW cartoon or RotS?
The point, anon, was that a Venator is small compared to an ISD which is small compared to an SSD.
However it's also true that Imperial- or Executor-class star destroyers not being able to land is not canon.
Ive seen people say this before but all it says to me is how high quality TCW was that people think it's nearly at the quality of blockbuster CGI.
>Rebels will never be mistaken to be one of the movies or vice versa
also, the CGI in the prequels hasn't aged very well
Most of it looks fine in motion though. The effects were groundbreaking upon release, and the Blu Rays are still stunning to watch.
Some of it has. Attack of the Clones has aged the worst while The Phantom Menace has aged the best. Revenge of the Sith is middle ground, some good and some bad CGI. I still think that the CGI in the films were among the best for the time they were made in
I'm not entirely sure which of the movies each of these are from, but they're all from AotC and RotS.
>All of the Naboo palace scenes with the space gondolas look like shit
>Dex's Diner looks like shit
>Padme's apartment looks like shit
>The parts of the Genocian Cave and Arena that are obviously CGI clash with the parts that aren't
>The scene in the Jedi temple where Anakin gets off the shuttle and exchanges banter with Obi-wan and the hallway where like 90% of conversations in the temple take place look like garbage
Basically any time no one was fighting and the backgrounds weren't as blurred, the set looked like garbage and had the effect of forcing the actors to act without actually interacting with each other, meaning everyone comes off as stiff robots.
It's probably just a younger viewer who doesn't have the temporal context. At the time the movies blew everything else out of the water.
5 years later the technology made quite a leap.
So if you grew up on the newer stuff and go back to watch it I guess it's not quite as apparent.
Though he's not wrong, some of the sets do look quite artifical, though imo not because they were 'plastic looking', because that's just how Star Wars looks (Stormtroopers, anyone?).
It's more that often times the materials look samey, and the light doesn't match well. In some shot you can also see some things looking more blurred than others, which makes certain things look a little jarring, in particular with wide shot and mass scenes with the clones.
Though hero shots like most of the stuff with Grievous looks great. Grievous himself look great, just the backdrops are not quite up to the same standard sometimes, so when you see it next to each other is kind of takes you out of it.
All in all the cgi and compositing of foreground and background models look good enough though, that it doesn't pull you out of the movie.
Can't say the same about the dialogue.
Almost forgot, the hallway where Anakin, Obi-wan, and Palpatine get separated by a force field at the beginning of RotS is probably the worst set I've ever seen in my life.
>All of the Naboo palace scenes with the space gondolas look like shit
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140106/z5xb8fnp.jpg - Real set
>Dex's Diner looks like shit
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140104/evl2c86i.jpg - Real set
http://s7.directupload.net/images/131229/oz37kdmz.jpg - Practically built model for the exterior shot
>Padme's apartment looks like shit
http://s14.directupload.net/images/140106/pawv87z9.jpg - Youre fucking insane m8
>The parts of the Genocian Cave and Arena that are obviously CGI clash with the parts that aren't
Seeing as something like that literally can't exist, it had to be CGI'd in. However it was all practical miniatures - http://s7.directupload.net/images/140104/98twj5je.jpg
>The scene in the Jedi temple where Anakin gets off the shuttle and exchanges banter with Obi-wan and the hallway where like 90% of conversations in the temple take place look like garbage
Most of the Jedi Temple was practical sets too - http://s14.directupload.net/images/140104/gg4dkkzd.jpg
Here's some other notoriously "clean" looking locations that are actually sets;
Coruscant - http://s7.directupload.net/images/140104/br2bef27.jpg
The Ship interiors - http://s14.directupload.net/images/140104/tnm6ixvo.jpg
Dual of the Fates - http://s7.directupload.net/images/140104/lqtr29n5.jpg
CIS Ship - http://s14.directupload.net/images/140106/dadkz62a.png
Even (and I admit this surprised me too) the glossy halls and rooms of Kamino - http://s7.directupload.net/images/140106/2tff2fer.jpg
Fact is, a lot of these locations were entirely practical sets, with only the backgrounds being CGI (because space ships and volcanos kinda have to be done with CGI, duh)
And even so, a lot of it was done with practically built miniatures, on set filming in places like Italy and Tunisia, and they even filmed real volcanoes for Mustafar alongside building their own practical models and shit.
Literally a real, fully built, practical set - http://s14.directupload.net/images/140106/dadkz62a.png
You've let your suspension of disbelief in fantasy movies die anon. It's a shame. You're not "believing" anything, and brushing it off as CGI, even though literally everything you listed and complained about was a fully built, real practical set.
Wow, you're right.
I guess I just dislike the general aesthetic of the movies, but its clear a lot of work went into these sets. The miniatures still don't look quite right, but I was under the impression that they were entirely graphical, not physical with actors superimposed on them.
The reason I thought the starship hallway was cgi was because I distinctly remember the lighting being off, like there was more lighting being generated than what should have been reflected off of all the smooth surfaces, but you could achieve that affect with noting but a filter, or shit, maybe it was just my imagination.
Either way, I sit corrected.
How useful are SSDs really?
The only canon SSDs we see in battle, the Executor and the Jakku SSD, both jobbed real fucking hard. Executor died from a single A-wing and all the Jakku SSD managed to do was crash as part of the NR's overwhelming victory.
And as far as non-canon SSDs go, none of them ever achieved anything of value, aside from when Lusankya was used as a giant battering ram during the Vong war.
>literally everything you listed and complained about was a fully built, real practical set.
*Except Geonosis, which was a fully built miniature set inserted in the background because Geonosis was unavailable for on-set filming. Those pesky Geonosians.
Yeah, I know what you mean. The point I am getting at here was that the myth about the prequels being done entirely on bluescreen is absurd when so much effort was put into all these sets and locations to avoid doing that.
There are PLENTY of things you may dislike about the prequels. Perhaps you dislike the writing? Perhaps you don't like the story, or casting? Maybe you dislike the AESTHETIC of the locations, as you say yourself.
And that's perfectly fine, nobody has to like everything in the franchise. I personally enjoy all the movies, at least to some extent.
But there's a big difference in disliking the aesthetic, and incorrectly saying you dont like it because it's CGI, and I just feel like more people should take the time out to see for themselves, because it is a pretty big misconception at this point that the Prequels were all CGI, when they actually used much more practical effects that the Original movies.
If you, or anybody else wants to see more of the work that went into the Prequel movie sets, here is a cool link; http://boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/
They can bring lots of firepower and have huge capacity for fighters and other vehicles. It did take the entire rebel fleet concentrating their fire on the Executor to give that A-Wing the opportunity to destroy the bridge.
While we're on the subject, I just wanna say that the Podracing scene might just be the greatest combination of practical effects and CGI I have ever seen. The entire scene from start to finish seamlessly merges what must have been hundreds of practical and special effects. Watched TPM recently and that scene stood out immensely to me, not just to the movie, but to the entire franchise.
They're all cute as hell
>tfw you'll never live with your loving sister and parents on a comfy spaceship and have awesome adventures every day
So, the latest Star Wars 13 comic is pretty fun
>this whole 2 page
Here's one for that Nemoidian lover that was posted last thread - http://s7.directupload.net/images/140106/tf49s79i.png
>Chopper, R2, BT-1 Deathmatch
I'd pay to see it.
Can have QT as the ring girl.
It's still a drawn out sequence that doesn't progress the story. It's clear from the beginning that Anakin would win, so there's no tension at all. They should've just hired someone who would fly them to Coruscant like Obi Wan did in ANH.
As an adult, I 100% agree. Knowing Anakin would win takes from it a little. As a kid however, I'd imagine its a wonderfully tense spectacle, and as an adult, I still appreciate that it's visually stunning.
Speaking of the Nemoidian fanatci, I know there was a link posted to the blog last thread, but I don't think many of you know about this... Prepare yourselves.
First timer here, I don't mean to spark any shitpost flinging contest or faction wars, but I need to know if I'm the only one whom legitimately believes The Empire and Sith to be the good guys in general, whilst the Jedi are merely freaking space allahu akbar terrorists?
>all the Jakku SSD managed to do was crash as part of the NR's overwhelming victory.
We don't know what it managed to do though. We see it crash and burn, but we don't see what happened before that. (It's falling right as you spawn into the game)
For all we know, it went on a Mon Cala Cruiser killing spree and took tens of thousands of people down with it.
There are plenty of people in these threads that seem to unironically side with the Empire.
And plenty of people who dislike the Jedi.
Not so much Sith supporters though, kinda' impossible to support the Sith without looking edgy or crazy.
Relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc-jLWyxZjI
The Order 66 music playing faintly in the background
As much as I enjoy Rebels, and I really do enjoy it, I can't see it ever coming anywhere close to the quality of TCW.
Oh well.. I didn't get much out of that video, I haven't caught up to that point with the series. I'm trying my best to get as much in before the new movie comes out.
Still, it seems to me that there's no "ultimate good" side, every part has their pros and cons.. but the Jedi seem kind of way too reckless imo. Just massive, unjustified genocides, bigger than the empire ones, for minuscule victories at best.
I highly recommend you get onto finishing the series.
The context of that video is an extremely mature arc regarding a suicide bombing, and how the Jedi respond to it.
The show, especially in the later seasons, deals with the idea that maybe the Jedi aren't the good guys. Maybe they're causing more harm than good, maybe they're making mistakes, or being hypocrits.
There's entire episodes and stories told from the villains perspectives too, and even episodes where we get to see the Seperatists point of views.
The force is very black and white, but people misunderstand that, forgetting that the characters and stories don't have to be. Interesting stuff.
About 12 hours from now I think.
From what I understand, it's just going to be build-up to next weeks episode where shit is really going to go down. Still, always exciting to get new Star Wars.
>When did they change the animations from 2d to 3d? Or is this a remake?
Are you referring to this 2D show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVk9lPotcW4 ???
Because basically, the 3D show was designed at first to be a sequel to the 2D one, to build upon/around it. But over time, the 3D one just started to replace the 2D one in general, and now the 2D one is no longer canon.
Without spoiling too much, you have a lot to look forward too anon. The Umbara episodes, the Order 66 Conspiracy episodes.
Oh and there's a crazy budget increase from Season 3 onwards where the animation starts to get really, REALLY smooth and great to watch.
The 2D one isn't canon, so it's not completely necessary.
However it is a fun little show that's only 2 hours long, so give it a watch sometime.
It's not great, but it's not bad. It's kinda' like Samurai Jack with a Star Wars skin.