ITT: 10/10 Best Animated Films

>>77843808
In my opinion, the Hunchback of Notre Dame is the closest any animated movie has come to perfection (slightly tainted by the FUCKING gargoyles) in terms of my tastes as an adult. Esmeralda is one of my favorite animated movie characters of all time.

>>77843952
Seriously? Apart from Pocahontas, it is hands down the WORST Disney movie of the last three decades. There's exactly one good song, and everything else is a ham-handed mess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_50_Greatest_Cartoons

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>>77843971
I respect your opinion, though I can't begin to understand it

I enjoyed Merlin's scenes in sword in the stone, didn't care much for the animal parts though

>>77843808
That's not Shrek 2. Shrek 1 is a 9/10 though.

>>77843952
>In my opinion, the Hunchback of Notre Dame is the closest any animated movie has come to perfection
Watch more movies you fucking casual.

>>77844085
Fuck you, namefag. I've watched a tidal wave of films.

>>77844007
>>77844085
Shit, I just looked it up. Apparently I watched Hunchback 2, never actually saw the first one.
>>77844099
Stop pretending to be me you autist.

>>77844114
>Shit, I just looked it up. Apparently I watched Hunchback 2, never actually saw the first one
Oh, thank god, I thought you had unspeakably horrible taste there

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>>77844099
Oh i'm sure you have sport.

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>>77844133
And I'm sure you're a faggot, sport.

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>>77843808

>>77844012
why do you think this?

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>>77844151
lel

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wish i had the webm of zigzag doing his card tricks

>>77844180
To the filter list you go then

>>77844184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsxCIkN7Zy8

Is The Lego Movie one of the best animated films of all time?

Toy Story 2
Shrek
WALL-E

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>>77844326

yes

>>77844133
>That picture
My dick is already exploding.

>>77844350
I want to use a block with a hole for that unicat's butt

>>77844366
heard the last unicorn was animated by the same japs who did the hobbit.
any good?

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>>77844366
Why so many of them are "cute animals killing ach other on realistic ways"?

>>77843952
Well man, there is so much things better. I mean, the movie was good, but things like Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea, or even Coraline and many others, are superior omp.

>>77844401

Diamonds, man. Fuck yeah.

>>77844448
yes

>>77844168
but he's right, it's the first exception i always think of to the "sequel is worse than the first" rule

>>77844498
That's not true of Shrek 2, which expanded upon the first one and was way funnier.

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>>77844326
Absolutely yes, if not top ten material. My personal favorite ever.

>>77844350
The best part about that my vie is that it sounds like a child wrote it.

Because I child did write it

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>>77844366
>Delgo
>Director: The Sublime Patron of Dreams

I'd say The Peanuts Movie is a 10/10. Every flaw it has is either excusable or isn't that big a deal to really mark off anything.

>>77844843
please tell me you found it online
in english

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>>77843808

Here's my 3x3...

>>77844366
>Waltz with Bashir
Oh shit, I forgot about that movie. So heavy, but damn.

>>77844448
The Last Unicorn is fantastic. Both the cartoon and the book, in fact.

I'm so sorry, /co/, but I will forever love The Brave Little Toaster, even though the car scene still depresses me.

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Y'all mothafuckas step aside, the true GOAT animated film is coming through

>>77844932
that flower scene gets me even more

>>77844867
take out prince achmed and toy story 2

>>77844867
is the bottom right that movie which had a compilation of greek stories? Forgot the name of it but that demon looks like one from the story with some harp bard or something

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As far as Disney goes. It's underrated as fuck.
Atlantis is a close contender.

>>77844947
the feels man, THE FEELS

also fucking great soundtrack

>>77845006

It's Prince Achmed. Oldest surviving animated feature film. It's actually great.

>>77843952
Hunchback isn't even best Disney/Pixar. Not to mention other, studios. Ghibli has made half a dozen better films.

>>77845022
had an animation teacher who did the inbetweens for the cat chick, took all the credit for developing her motions and gestures.
he was kind of a dick.

>>77844932
>goes to youtube to listen to Worthless
why did I do this to myself?

>>77845074
time to watch it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqT2uOa1-d0

>>77844947
I watched that the other day, it was nice but I wouldn't say it's one of the best anythings.

>>77844863
Support the movie and buy a ticket, jackass.

>>77845153
i would but it's not over here, or in english

>>77845108
Well shit, and parents complain about the new dinosaur cartoon being "dark"

>>77843808
>>77844012
Ogrerated

>>77844867

can you tell me the names of those movies?

>>77845204
Disney plz

>>77845258

Left to Right, top to bottom:

Waltz with Bashir, Waking Life, 5cm per second, Castle in the Sky, Akira, Mary and Max, Fantasia, Toy Story 2, Prince Achmed.

the thief and the cobbler

WALL-E
>mfw entire dance sequence

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i dunno if this counts, but they seemed to do a really good job with the whole animation in reality thing, remember seeing a few other movies like that but didn't seem to give the right punch to it.

>rip Bob Hoskins :(

>>77845338
>mfw fat earthicans fight a >1000 year old AI and win

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underrated GOAT right here

>>77844326
>>77844711

It brought nothing new to the table bu recycled every great trope and generic action sequence from actual good movies

so its basically content aggregation the film, yet somehow still lovable

>>77845538
haven't brought myself to watch that movie yet, is it just some weenie in the west thing?

>>77844160
Not quite 10/10, but a fucking great movie nonetheless.

>>77845581
>nothing new to the table
except a fairly revolutionary animation method

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>>77845596
kind of

deals with metafictional stuff like the nature of a hero and the power of stories, too

also the villain is amazing

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>There can only be one

>>77845581
>bu recycled every great trope and generic action sequence from actual good movies
isn't it supposed to be a parody of those movies, it would make sense that they would reuse the tropes and rework them to lego style

>>77844463
Anyone ever shooped this with thunderf00t in it, looking goofy?

>>77845758
That picture is objectively false.

>>77845942
Bullshit, httyd will always be /co/'s greatest film series

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>Shrek
>not Shrek 2
also
>no one has posted the best

>>77845581
It was the best animated film this decade. Everything else is just forced feels.

>>77845065
Most are

>>77845758
2 isnt even better then 1

>>77845604
>CGI
>revolutionary

what

>>77846067
CGI that looks like stop motion, though

THE SMEARS WERE LEGOS, ANON

>>77843808
>cheap pop culture pandring
>cheap shots at Disney
I give it 5/10 for some chuckles & having the princess choose the ogre body for love.

but 10/10? Dude...you need to watch more.

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Maybe not 10/10 but I feel its underrated

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>>77846104
>took it seriously

>>77846104
what did you think of the sequel?

>>77846051
don bluth used to heckle animators so badly, he ended up making some of them cry

>>77846126
maybe thats why he has to use kickstarter and failed

>>77846067
>all cgi is filmed the same way

You know, just like how every 2d movie is made the exact same way.

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>>77844366
This is a good list...I can't agree with all of it but it's good.

>so many cgi movies
why is /co/ full of plebs

>>77846239
this guy gets it

>>77846239
Because 2D is dead

;_;

>>77845758
Second movie was disappointing.
>>77845964
The first one, yeah. Second one? Not as good.

>>77846119
Never saw it...should I?

>>77846290
it's not, how about taking your face out of dreamworlks/disney's asshole just for one minute

>>77846451
You should.

>>77846114
>there will never be a bonus feature in the incredibles2 DVD where megamind and enda argue about capes for the whole episode, ending with minion cutting in and having a geek out about design
>there will never be a fanfic about this
why even wake up in the mornings

>>77846451
>Never saw Shrek 2
What are you doing dawg?
You should absolutely see it, not even joking. It's really good.

don't bother with 3 and 4 though

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I'f they'd gotten proper Broadway actors (The actors used are still very good though) it'd be much more highly regarded.

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>>77846552
I never wanted this until now

>>77844366
By the way, can someone help me finding the name of an animated film?
It's about a boy a girl and some gnome who celebrated I think it was with the Norse gods.

>>77846800
valhalla

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>>77844114
>Shit, I just looked it up. Apparently I watched Hunchback 2, never actually saw the first one.

holy shit, anon, you made me spit out my water

>>77844706
which is why it's an exception, I'm saying it IS better

>>77844114
>Shit, I just looked it up. Apparently I watched Hunchback 2, never actually saw the first one.
lol wut

>>77846868
Thanks

>>77844184
Fantastic design and animation
Shit shit shit shit shit pacing and story. Even in the recobbled cut

>>77845581
Because its a parody

>>77845538
One of the only 3D movies I feel hasn't been dated graphically
Because ILM are wizards

>>77846748
>young syndrome sees megamind as his new 'hero'
>After contemplating a lot he decides to propose a team up
>megamind is flattered but laughs in his face, says he isn't even a B-tier villain and can't even be considered "super" because he lacks presentation
>this is the first of many things that leads him to become the villain of the first movie
>his face when he survived at he reads the supervillain newspaper daily and it says in the front page megamind a s-tier villain turned a new leaf

>>77845143
Agreed. It's amazing, but overrated.

>>77844366
DISNEYFAGS BTFO

I liked Princess and the frog. Disney's last great 2D movie.

Amazing Mister Fox.

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>>77843952
It was definitely my favorite disney movie as a kid. Esmerelda was probably my first /co/ crush.

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>>77844114
>Shit, I just looked it up. Apparently I watched Hunchback 2, never actually saw the first one.

>>77849058
l did this with Aladdin when l was very young. My parents, being old got me Aladdin 2 instead of one

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Some of my favorites.

>>77849258
wreck-it ralph
>?
httyd
asterix and the ___
secret of kells
wolf children
mary and max
nausicaa
ratatouille

what's the second and fourth one?

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Deleted that one to post the updated one
>>77844867
++ Waltz with Bashir, Fantasia
+Akira, Mary and Max, Prince Achmed
+/- 5 cm, Laputa
>>77849258
++ Secret of Kells, Nausicaa
+ Wreck it Ralph, Asterix and Obelix: Olympics, How to train a dragon (I liked the 2nd one more), Mary and Max, Ratatouille
+/- Wolf Children

>>77849302

2. Flåklypa Grand Prix
4. Twelve Tasks of Asterix

>>77849334
can you list these out?

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>>77843952

Alan Rickman needs to play Judge Frollo at some point

Have Andy Serkis Mocap Quasimodo and whoever is pretty at the moment for Esmarellda and you've restored Disney's live action credibility

>>77843808

Shall we pray?

I just keep returning to Beauty and the Beast. The revolutionary animation in the ballroom scene, the character cast, and the fucking music. Alan Menken must have made some deal with the devil when he scored this, Little Mermaid, Aladdin and Hunchback.

The intro gives me chills every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__x8CYAVMbk
And every time that theme repeats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j1rRSxGJ_c

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>>77843975
>32. The Cat Came Back
FUCK that cartoon does not belong on that list

>>77849372
Sure
Anime series:
Utena, Haibane Renmei, Tatami Galaxy
FLCL, Mononoke, Kaiba
Texhnolyze, Evangelion, Lain
Anime movies:
Perfect Blue, Kaguya, Millennium Actress
Nausicaa, Angel's Egg, Beautiful Dreamer
End of Evangelion, Mind Game, Sadness of Belladonna
Animated movies:
Yellow Submarine, Tale of Tales, Heavy Metal
Waltz with Bashir, Secret of Kells, Feherlofia
Persepolis, Alice, It's such a Beautiful Day

The animated series are all recognizable probably.

>>77843808

SOME...

>>77849679
I only recognize five of them

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You don't know shit anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuhdhYL8UY

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let's just turn this into a recommendation thread

>>77849800
What happened to using actual orchestras for animation soundtracks?

>>77849800
doesnt look that good desu

>>77849800
Either this had really good voice acting, or really bad voicing. Either way I had a strong opinion about the VA when I saw it 6 years ago.

>>77843971
Even including Home on the Range?

>>77850093
James Earl Jones is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkeoqVP4N9g

>>77846126
Disney did too. You know why Yensid looks scary as fuck? Because the animators created him using Walt as their inspiration, even the expression he gives Mickey in the end was the same face he'd give the animators.

>>77850068
Not their best but it's still Rankin-Bass/Topcraft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvq3dhS2Hg

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>>77843808
I cry every time.

>>77850197
>Disney
>animator
top kek anon

>>77849781
Batman, Steven Universe, The Maxx
Adventure Time, Over the Garden Wall, Downtown
Aeon FLux, Samurai Jack, Avatar: The Last Airbender
Which ones didn't you recognize?

>>77850334
I'm just saying he heckled them too.

>>77849840
It had good animation and shot composition, but I personally found the narrative rather unengaging and the designs rather ugly. I watched it more for educational/historical reasons.

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>>77844867
>3/3
+Fantasia, Toy Story 2, Mary & Max
Need to see Waltz with Bashir and Castle in the Sky.

>>77849258
>6/6
+Wreck-It Ralph, HTTYD, Kells, Mary & Max, Nausicaa, Ratatouille

>>77849334
>Animated Movies
>3.5/5
+Kells, Persepolis, Such a Beautiful Day
.5 for Yellow Submarine - don't think it's a great movie, but damn is it fun
-Bakshi

>>77851026
>-Bakshi
Wow, I don't have any Bakshi film on my list. Honestly, I find most of his films rather disgusting or at least ugly.

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>>77844867
4/5

>>77849258
4/7

>>77849334
now that's some good taste

>>77851026
6/6

>>77851026
>>77851203
What are the ones mid-right on both of those?

>>77851277
>>77851203
the sea prince and the fire child

>>77851026
prince of egypt

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>>77844184

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>>77849800
Highly underrated film...

>>77851401
Fantastic animation, but even the original had a forgettable story. Animators should always collaborate with good writers.

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>>77844947
I came into here just to post this.

>>77849800
I do like Don McClean, glad to see he sang for an animated film

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>>77851361

>the sea prince and the fire child

Well, damn.

>>77851530
it's worth a watch, my favorite out of the sanrio movies

>>77851401
This will always be fucking insane. Most fascinating animation I've ever seen.

>>77851597
Japanese animation looks better.

>>77851683
examples?

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>>77851728

>>77849258
What makes Smash-it-Sam one of your favorite movies? I liked it, but I didn't think it was the greatest animated film I had ever seen.

>>77851794
>that mouth animation
case closed

>>77851886
>disregarding all the amount of technical understanding of the webm because of a fucking 3 second mouth movement
Yeah, no. Kill yourself.

>>77851361
Thanks, guess I should rewatch Prince of Egypt. Saw it over a decade ago.

>>77851929
>rest of webm is just explosions
why don't YOU kill yourself and take some other braindead weeaboos with you

>>77850476
>the maxx
>aeon flux
>over the garden wall
>dowtown

>>77851683
Every thread

>>77851683
Maybe art design looks better, don't think animation does and when it does it's in works inspired highly by western animation: Miyazaki, Yuasa, Takahata, Otomo or Koike. Plus some animators really stand out like Mitsuo Iso.

>>77846684
Still one of my favorite of the 3D Disney movies.

>>77845108
Holy shit anon, I didn't come here for these feelings.

>>77851203
FUKKING GAMER GAYT

>>77852889
what

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Easily the best of the last 10 years or so.

>>77852496
There are tons of animation works that weren't inspired by the west that are fantastic.

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>>77853006
Chomet's stuff beautifully actualizes this Miyazaki concept.

His animations aren't simply stylistic amalgams of other films, they're drawn directly from personal observation and introspection.

>>77849299
hahaha
no.
get out.
you huge fucking faggot.

>>77853132
But the Not Creativity part is right. Is referencing bad now?

>>77844160
just watching it, I never expected such feels touching my sadness muscle

httyd

>>77849840
It's so good and underrated that Isao Takahata ( Director of Grave of the Fireflies, The Tale of the Princess Kaguya) bought the copyrights for Studio Ghibli to dub the film in Japanese and release the film in Japan so it will be more well-known.

>>77849334
+5 for Kon
mononoke is better than nausicaa though

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>>77853691
Just finnished it. Why do things just end like this, holy shit. Just kill me now.

Also, InsideOut is 10/10 for me.

>>77853114
Name one. And I'm talking about animation, not art design.
>>77854091
Maybe for you. I didn't like one single thing better about Mononoke. Still an amazing film though.

>>77854944
Walther-P38, a Lupin TV special. Not at all western inspired, and has some fantastic animation.

Sleeping Beauty.

>>77843808
>Incredibles
>Tangled
>Road to El Dorado
>Prince of Egypt
>How to Train Your Dragon 1&2
>Emperor's New Groove

All of these are among my favorite movies.

10/10 is pretty fucking hard, but I think these ones would be my top contenders.

>Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
>The Lion King
>The Incredibles
>Toy Story
>The Iron Giant

>Who Framed Roger Rabbit (if we're including hybrids)
>Akira (if we're including anime)

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Playing on HBO right now

>>77855228
>akira
overrated as fuck

>>77855462
>this on a '10/10 movies according to me' thread
nah, akira's fine

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>>77855900
Ninja Scroll was better.

Is there a decent place to torrent A Monster in Paris with English subs?

>>77855933
it was edgy

nah I found it to be pretty enjoyable actually, thanks for reminding me of it

I recall the MC's love interest flashing her boobs at him at some point in one scene near the end though

>>77843952
Hunchback of Notre Dame is bad because of how Disney changed it from the book to make the gypsies the good guys.

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GOAT of all GOATs coming through

>>77846478
2D is dead anon. I'm sorry but I wish it was still popular. Once AR and VR take over tv there's no need for 2D animation.

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I wouldn't call these the best but for the past few days I've been watching this series and I just finished the third one a couple hours ago so right now for me would be the first one out of the series with the second one a few feet behind, the third was meh but I liked the mom origin story. I like other animated films but I guess right now I'm filled with childhood nostalgia because I keep playing the songs in my head causing me to like it more plus Ariel is kind of hot in the first film even if she is "16" to me she looks like early 20s. Btw I'm a guy and I have no shame about watching them... maybe a tidbit.

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From the ones I've seen recently, I quite enjoyed Jack and the Kekoo-Clock Heart

>>77845294
Brings me back. That movie was insane.

Also TBC lacked in animation style but made up for a dark storyline.

>>77856233
>Btw I'm a guy and I have no shame about watching them.
You're on /co/, there's more debauchery you should be ashamed of.

>>77856363
Edit comma

>>77856398
:^)

>>77856481
he's right, you know.

>>77857479
meh

>>77857521
uh

okay?

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>>77856027
Yeah, she did.

>>77845022
does anyone has a cap of the thread with the guy who would tape shit to his hand to be like the captain guy

>>77845538
>Rango
I was so, so hesitant to watch that. Literally zero interest, no idea what it was other than 'animated Johnny Depp is Johnny Depping It Up in Animated Land'.

As it turns out, one of my favorite animated movies. Just fucking amazing looking, -and- a Western (of sorts).

I'm glad it's at least appreciated in the dark corners of the net.

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>>77857689
yes

>>77857781
God damn, that guy was magic.

>>77846011
Now this guy knows what's up

What is the newest Justice League movie? Some sort of alt universe one, not Flashpoint

>>77858311
Nevermind, it's Gods and Monsters

>>77857719
It's among the best 3D animated movies for me, mainly for the designs. Other contenders: Wall-E (overall), How to Train a Dragon 2(scenography), Kung Fu Panda 2(action sequences) and Inside Out.

>>77844867
6/8, +Castle in the Sky, Waking Life

>>77849258
3.5/5, -Ralph, +/- Secret of Kells (kind of a love-hate relationship, I change my opinion every time I see it)

>>77849334
Respectable-even-if-not-my-taste tier.

>>77851203
3/8, +Millenium Actress, -NIMH

>>77846011
still havent gotten the chance to see this fucking movie

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>>77849334
I see a predilection towards 2deep4u material.
Fine taste

>>77853006
I'm surprised how little love The Illusionist got around the people I usually talk with.
I mean it can be accused of being a bit simplistic, but I think it's still everything it wanted to be.

>>77859275
If you mean KFP2 then here is a link

https://r3---sn-ab5l6nsk.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id=c151706cad7f63f7&itag=37&source=webdrive&begin=0&requiressl=yes&mm=30&mn=sn-ab5l6nsk&ms=nxu&mv=m&pl=19&mime=video/mp4&lmt=1441994531319847&mt=1449029463&ip=108.45.28.82&ipbits=8&expire=1449058302&sparams=ip,ipbits,expire,id,itag,source,requiressl,mm,mn,ms,mv,pl,mime,lmt&signature=16F5230D6C6DAF6CD7D8A97E5718B4A8731E0FBE.0FF6F2A6B6F0489B8643A3D1DF236ABED855B72A&key=ck2

>>77859275
>>77860093
Just copy & paste the whole thing in search bar

>>77849334
>Currently ongoing cartoons
>Fucking AT
>BTAS better than the rest of the DCAU
>OTGW a GOAT
I jive with everything else on your list but man if your western series list isn't shit.

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goat animated film right here

>>77843975
>The Cat Concerto
>42

Should be higher, that cartoon is amazing and never fails to make me and anyone I know laugh

>>77845538
So much this. It and WALL-E are the only CGI movies in my top 10 so far.
>>77845388
I'd say so. Dat realistic shading, practical effects, also Richard Williams.

>>77846290
>>77846478
>>77856258

Do you even Europe? Traditional/tradigital animation is alive and kicking over there.

Is there anything relatively recent (+- 20 years) that is euro/US and not mosty comedy oriented?

>>77846620
how the fuck are more people not saying this?

>>77855420
>>77856144
So happy I paid out to see the rerelease. Just to see that godtier animation and hear those deafening footsteps mang

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>>77844366
I got two words for ya...
FUCKSNOWBALL

>>77861330
Are you looking for stuff aimed more towards kids or adults?

>>77843808
Do you guys think that sometime someone can make an adults-only infographic of animated stuff that isn't Family Guy/Simpsons tier?

Like I get asked this question a lot and wouldn't mind just having a picture handy instead of having to type out a list.

>>77861538
type out a list and I will

>>77861335
no one likes rotoscoping

>>77861872
i love rotoscoping and want to see much more of it.

>>77853211

It's not wrong, per se, since they both get the same point across, But with the Creativity example its more of the idea of art reflecting life, rather art reflecting art, if that makes sense.

And that just leads to the question of when referencing becomes cliche/plagarism/whatever.

>disney
>edgeship down
>no triplets of belleville
stay pleb /co/

>>77862410
here

>>77844366
Delgo hehe

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>>77861854

Feel free to add more or debate on these. The aim is to find stuff that really has more adult/mature themes, not just having enough gore/nudity/swearing that it's not for kids. Think more Watchmen this is just an example than Johnny the Homicidal Maniac.

At the outset, I'd argue that we can put in some fantasy stuff as long as it sticks to this. Also, I'm including some anime because I don't think many /a/spies would be interested in this sort of thing.
This kind of list is mostly so adults know this kind of animation exists, and it treats adults like a mature audience that can handle what's there. Granted, they don't have to be rated R, but rated R is a helpful indicator.

Animated Movies:

A Scanner Darkly
Aeon Flux
AKIRA?
American Pop
Anomalisa
Appleseed?
The Congress
Chico and Rita
Fantastic Planet
Grave of the Fireflies or Barefoot Gen
GiTS?
Heavy Traffic
It's Such a Beautiful Day
Millennium Actress
My Dog Tulip
Paprika
Perfect Blue
Perseopolis
Pink Floyd's The Wall
Princess Mononoke
Rock and Rule?
The Suicide Shop?
Tokyo Godfathers
The Triplets of Belleville?
Waltz with Bashir
When the Wind Blows
Wrinkles

Animated TV Series (even harder to find than movies IMO):

Afro Samurai?
Berserk?
The Boondocks?
Bojack Horseman?
Moral Orel
The Maxx
Spawn (I'm including these purely by virtue of the fact that they're the only animated cape series I can think of that even are aimed mostly at adults)
Stressed Eric?
The Life and Times of Tim
Neon Genesis Evangelion (Like it or not, it's the Watchmen of mecha series. I mean this in both its maturity level, popularity, and polarizing opinions/interpretations.)

>>77863032
As a followup, America really fucking sucks at making this kind of animated thing.

I'm pretty sure this is Hollywood's fault.

>>77863032
Princess [sic]
Kahlil Gibran's The Prophet
Renaissance
Beowulf
Waking Life
Only Yesterday
Feherlofia

>>77846011
Fucking underrated as shit. I cried like a bitch when the Soothsayer was forcing him to relive his traumatic memories. Good fucking movie

>>77863306
>Beowulf
Please don't tell me you mean the one that's a giant videogame cutscene

>>77859958
I like works that appeal to the mind, but it's best when they appeal to the heart and eyes as well.
>>77860157
I know it's not. But thanks for the confirmation.

>>77863357
i think it really shows how pathetic living conditions were back then and how small time the kings lived.

Granted it may not be, strictly speaking, "good" or "deep" but I think it's underrated.

>>77863032
I'd get rid of anime. I mean, /a/ has tons of great list for this and no offence but it seems you're not too well versed in the medium. I'll add some titles concerning western stuff when I have a moment.

>>77851026
Godly taste anon!
I wish Galactic Railroad got more recognition.

>>77863446
The infographic isn't for underrated animation, though. It's for animation that tells a mature story, meaning one that explores issues that adults face in a meaningful way.

Again, gore, profanity, and tits do not a mature story make.

>>77863490
/a/ has a mature/seinen rec list??

>>77855228
We have about the same taste in cartoons except I like the book better for Akira

There is a lot of shit taste in this thread.

For anyone who hasn't seen The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, it comes to mind as the only 10/10 fucking masterpiece in recent years. There is a lot of terrible anime out there but when they get it right, they get it so fucking right.

>>77863589
Not defending the Beowulf film, because it was terrible, but the story of Beowulf which WAS reasonably translated to the film, is a mature one. It is a story of conquering and succession and the rights of a king and how the downfall of man stems from his own actions and hubris. These aren't really family themes.

>>77863648
>why aren't you guys talking about the one thing I like
what a better way to start off a post

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>>77846011
>movie is called fucking Kung Fu Panda 2
never judge a book by its cover, jesus Christ
also best villain

>>77863648
I agree no anime

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>>77851492
I was going to recommend, but you already did.
It's a beautiful movie, helps to know is about hereditary mental illness.

>>77864148
that doesn't even have anything to do with anything he said. at all.

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>>77863589
>>77863490
>>77863306
>>77863032
wip

what should i take out and what should i add

going to add
>kirkirou and the sorceress
>snoopy come home
>animal farm
>yellow submarine
>gandahar
>les maitres du temps
>the last unicorn
>the brave little toaster
>rock and rule
>coraline

>>77863648
>These aren't really family themes.
I don't think I'd fully agree with you and here's why.
>It is a story of conquering and succession and the rights of a king
Kids read fantasy literature with these themes, and the topic is addressed in some works aimed for kids. (And many prominent religious texts do as well, which are definitely under the purview of family.)
>how the downfall of man stems from his own actions and hubris
This is a pretty universal theme that pops up in a surprisingly diverse array of stories/animated works, and many of them are aimed at kids.

It wasn't the story itself or its themes that was the reason for Beowulf's rating. It was the T&A and gore. Can I theoretically make an adaptation of Beowulf that lacks these things? Sure I can. Would it still be accessible for kids? Most likely. And this is not a problem at all!
Conversely, I can put a lot of inappropriate humor, violence, and nudity into a simple premise with one-note characters and market it towards "adults". (Tellingly enough, though, kids will still eat these types of shows up and ask for more. They have stories they can easily understand AND has stuff they can giggle at while looking over their shoulder in case Mom walks in.)

But there are some topics that kids, growing up in a safe and more-or-less normal state of
existence, can't (or hopefully shouldn't) fully understand at that age. More importantly, though, they treat these topics in a manner that respects an adult audience and more importantly an adult mental capability.

>tl:dr-- There are some storytelling themes and premises that both kids and adults can appreciate, which isn't a bad thing at all. It's why this board exists and why we talk about a lot of media aimed for kids, after all. But there are stories whose complexity and content make it clear that they are aimed at adults. Those are what the infographic's for.

>>77864398

Pink Floyd The Wall

It's got like five minutes of animation, and it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. And I like Pink Floyd.

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>>77864492
>>77864398
okay, anything else?

>>77864398
Pretty solid list so far.
I commend adding the three dark animal movies too. I wouldn't a

However, I'd be a little bit careful in what you add out of that list. Don't confuse universal themes adults can relate to (what the "family" label is ostensibly for) with themes aimed squarely at an adult audience.

Add:
>Heavy Traffic
>Animal Farm (mostly for the element of satire there)
>Mary and Max (forgot about that one)
>Les maitres du temps
>The Rabbi's Cat (forgot about that one, too)
Gandahar and Rock and Rule I'd be okay with, too, I guess.
I'm kind of on the fence with The Last Unicorn.

If we'd want to have a family-themed one of these, a lot of that list would make great additions. Something like: /co/'s Family Movie Starter Pack or something.

>>77864492
you're alone in the world. You know that?

>>77844366
>Delgo
ok this a joke list got it

>>77864528
Take out:
>Snoopy
>Kirikou
>Toaster
>Coraline
>Yellow Submarine

We should focus on stuff that has adults as the intended audience.

Can someone explain Angel's egg? It's 2deep4me.

>>77863490
I don't mind having anime - I'd be interested in seeing what anime /co/ likes as opposed to /a/ - but you'd probably want to keep them to their own section/guide.

>>77864533
I see people calling TLU an adult film pretty often here. I don't know how much I agree with that (versus it being a family film that adults can enjoy) but I don't think it's out of place on that list.

>>77861335
man that blonde kid was cool as shit his dad was the worst character in that movie

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>>77864398
>>77864528
>>77864533
>>77864591
>>77864623
>as opposed to /a/
I didn't know that I wanted this.

What should I start adding to it?

>>77864659
just noticed that the text on the corner messed up
I'll fix that

>>77864659
If you really want to fill some space then maybe try putting in a couple of m dot Strange's movies.
Really not for kids at all.
>We Are The Strange
>I Am Nightmare

>>77864659
Coonskin.

>>77864659
So, more to add or delete?

Adult /co/
>we are the strange
>i am nightmare
>coonskin
>fire and ice

Adult /a/ movies from /co/
>garden of words
>only yesterday
>galatic RR
>grave of the fireflies
>tokyo godfathers
>millennium actress
>the animatrix
>perfect blue
>princess mononoke
>EoE
>jin-roh
>paprika
>paranoia agent
>GitS
>Redline
>honneamise
>akira
I havent watched a lot of /a/

>>77864528
Add some Jan Svankmajer titles: Alice, Otik and Faust. Nornstein: Tale of Tales and Quay brother films.

>>77864794
If you don't know a lot about /a/ maybe you should leave that one to someone else.

Though I have another infographic idea I just came up with:

/CO/’s DISNEY-FREE FAMILY MOVIE STARTER PACK

Secret of NIMH
An American Tail
The Land Before Time
The Prince of Egypt
Yellow Submarine
The Secret of Kells
Coraline
Cat’s Don’t Dance
Snoopy Come Home
Kirikou and the Sorceress
Ernest and Celestine
The Brave Little Toaster
Rango
The Iron Giant
Road to El Dorado
How To Train Your Dragon
The Illusionist
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (??)
Feherlofia
Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night
Shaun the Sheep Movie
Wallace and Gromit (Were-Rabbit or other movie)
The Book of Life?
1 good Asterix movie
Chicken Run

>>77864794
There are too many adult /a/ movies. Let's focus on /co/.

>>77864813
>>77864659
Also Old Man and the sea.

>>77864659
Rabbi's cat

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>>77864896
>>77864872
>>77864852
>>77864813
>>77864794
>>77864659

>>77864911
Pretty fucking rock solid there.
Saved, thanks based anon.

>>77864591
Hmm... I know the topic is "adult-only animation", but I feel uncomfortable getting rid of TBLT. I think the experiences of watching it as a kid and as an adult are profoundly different, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to someone looking for mature animation, even if they'd already seen it as a kid.

I would say the same about TLU. So either they both belong, or they both don't.

>>77864847
I think having three categories would work best here: (1) animation that is not intended for or is unlikely to appeal to most kids, like Felidae and Persepolis, (2) family animation that can give adults a significantly different experience, like TBLT and TLU, or has stronger themes than most children's animation, like Plague Dogs, and (3) family animation that is especially good but isn't so different for an adult vs. a kid.

>>77864847
I can do this to

yellow submarine and kirkour is just weird, so idk if its a family movie
been a while since ive seen it

book of life was one of the worst movies ive ever seen, but at least had some good designs

asterix and the vikings
wallace and gromit the were-rabbit

haven't seen the illusionist or feherlofia

>>77864847
define "family" movie for me

>>77855228
This works for me.

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Does this count as anime?

Regardless, it's really good, and it really sorta captures what Animal Crossing is about (albeit taking a few liberties, but that's fair).

>>77865004
>>77864952
>>77864942
>>77864847
how's this?

what should i add or take away?

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>>77864942
It seems like most of the first two of these categories have been folded into the first infographic. Mostly because of who the movie was intended for. I'd be okay with having a little of 2 and most of 3 being considered "family" animation.
I personally never saw TBLT as a kid but imo the intent of the infographic is to give to someone who brushes off animation as an inferior medium for kids, or for someone looking for movies that pull no punches discussing polarizing topics.

>>77864952
I just put some out there to start some discussion. Especially since by cutting out Disney/Pixar, it'd give more obscure movies a chance to be discussed.

>>77865004
IMO, a "family" movie is a movie that has a simple enough narrative/theme for kids to understand but still has meaning/relevancy for adults to stay engaged in. Furthermore, it does so without coddling or being condescending towards either audience

>>77865110
Add at least 1 Peanuts movie.
Hell, maybe even the most recent one.

>>77865110
to add?
>shrek 2
>Anastasia
>paranorman
>song of the sea
>snoopy come home
>the illusionist
>yellow submarine
>nocturna

>>77864911
>>77865110
>no /a/ movies listed
Shit list, senpai.

>>77865152
We're staying away from /a/ for the moment since there's so much /a/, phammily.

Plus the guy doing the infographics hasn't seen much /a/.

>>77864911
Some potential additions:

Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Is the Man Who Is Tall Happy?
Allegro Non Troppo
The Animatrix

Was The Last Unicorn really created with adults in mind? And I disagree with The Wall being taken out.

>>77865152
Do you see /a/ or /co/ movies on /tv/ lists? Technically, they qualify.

>>77865196
>And I disagree with The Wall being taken out.

But it's not an animated movie. If you're gonna include it, you might as well add Kill Bill.

>>77865110
>Chuck Jones' Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
>The Cat in the Hat (2D)
>The Grinch Who Stole Christmas (2D)
>The Lorax (2D)
>The Muppet Movie (the first one) inb4 "bought by Disney"
>The Magic Roundabout (NOT DOUGAL)
>The Snowman

>>77865207
I always see Animatrix on them. Animatrix is /a/.

>>77865213
>I was going to add the christmas carol version of the muppets

>>77865213
are we including shorts or just movies

>>77865238
Probably just movies. Otherwise, we'd get a deluge of Fleischer stuff. Not that there's anything wrong with that but it's not the point.
I dunno. Our family had The Snowman, The Grinch who Stole Christmas, and The Cat in the Hat on cassette, so I guess I forgot those were technically shorts.

>>77865230
>I'd still go with the movie that introduces the characters in a "starter pack" but that's just me.

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>>77865238
>>77865230
>>77865221
>>77865213
>>77865196
the animatrix is /a/. its by studio 4c

>>77865174
>>77865143
>>77865138
>>77865110
i liked snoopy come home the most

>>77865273
If you're including christmas movies then the Snowman is an absolute classic and Robbie the Reindeer is great too.

>>77865273
You've got the wrong Lorax up there.
The one I was talking about was an animated short, so you should probably replace it with A Charlie Brown Christmas or something.

>>77865281
Sheeit, maybe we need to make a Christmas one...
Does one exist? I mean Christmas movies are like a genre unto themselves.

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>>77865290
at least one exists

>>77865281
>>77865283
i'll just delete it

>>77865211
It's just that the animation is pretty noteworthy so it just seems weird not to mention it.

Kill Bill has like 1 sequence. The Wall has several at significant moments and together it's longer than just five minutes - I think it's 15 in total.

Simply for the quality of those 15 minutes I feel like it's significant. It's not an adult animated movie but it has animation created for adults.

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>>77865273
>the animatrix is /a/. its by studio 4c

It features two American directors though, and is arguably an collaborative international film. Since only two of the films are in overtly animu styles it's something I would include.

Peter Chung yo.

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>>77865290
I checked my stash of lists, and this and the CN was all i found, so maybe we do?

>>77865326
okay

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>>77865332
There's a decent representation of /co/ movies, but they're mostly pleb-tier.
I'd be down for it.
Reminds me of the Christmas tape we ALWAYS played. Had stuff like this one weird Nutcracker but more importantly The Year Without a Santa Claus.

>>77865326
Isn't the Animatrix a bit more towards teenagers in audience, though???

>>77865346
Animation is definitely not family friendly and it is /a/. I get that people like it but I like End of Eva and Angel's Egg. I don't go around tryharding to put it on every list.

>>77865290
how should we divide it?
>cn specials, nick special, disney specials, rankinbass, charlie brown
>co christmas movie guide
>co stop motion christmas movies

>>77865371
>>77865391
>teenagers
best matrix sequel, has a ton of deaths onscreen

>>77865320
we'll just stick to this one then

>>77865396
>co christmas movie guide
I know you really like making these but don't go overboard.

>>77865406
there's more /co/ specials than /co/ movies, so how bout that

>>77865371
>Isn't the Animatrix a bit more towards teenagers in audience, though???

What makes you think that? I remember falling asleep on all but the really violent short as a teen watching it, actually.

Most of it's pretty slow paced and artsy-visual, not something that appeals to teens.

>>77865427
I'm just saying that just by virtue of it being an adaptation of an R-rated movie wouldn't really fit in on a chart called a -family- starter pack.
We've got lists of generic /co/ recs, these are for people who in the future want to show their little kids some good movies instead of Minions 8 or Alvin and the Chipmunks 16 or something.
Therefore, little kids are an audience that needs to be considered. Also,
>slow-paced and artsy-visual
appeals even less to little kids than it does to teens.

>>77865479
Oh, I was recommending it for the adult list, not the family movies.

>>77865492
Still /a/. Japanese studio management, japanese animators and 5/7 japanese directors.

>>77865273

>Disney-free

I hate to point this out but you better peep the Brave Little Toaster cover a bit closer. Towards the top...

>>77865791
it was their distributor, like how ghibli is their distributor

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Whoa, was just about to start a thread asking for a film recommendation list for my 7-8 year old cousins. I watch a bunch of animated movies myself, was just worrying I might forget something good they might end up liking.

>>77843808
OP you missed a 2.

>>77866807
That's really cool, anon!
Not even being sarcastic. One less kid who grows up obsessed with Minions or shit like that the better.
Do they have any favorite genres?

>>77866935
My cousin is pretty much obsessed with Frozen, the funny part is that she only watched it once at a friend's house, which is the reason I'm trying to get her and her sibilings to get to know more movies.

So far I put: HTTYD, The Little Mermaid, Tangled, The Incredibles, The Lion King, Brave, Shrek and a few others

I wonder if they might like Wall E, the intro is pretty long.

>>77866999
>obsessed with Frozen
Uh oh. Better fix that up right quick.

Pretty solid list though, albeit a bit entry-level. The movies you've got are a pretty good mix, and all have pretty strong female characters. Not to sound like a SJW or anything, but one reason little girls loved Frozen was that Elsa is basically a superpowered princess.

I'd also suggest Mulan and maybe even an older Disney movie. Something like Lady and the Tramp or The Aristocats.

For little kids, I'd say go ahead with WALL-E. There's at the least enough slapstick in it to stay entertained until EVE shows up.

If they're patient enough with WALL-E, then I'd totally show them Song of the Sea, The Secret of Kells, or even like Bambi.

Also, I'd totally also recommend Kiki's Delivery Service as well. Really fun and kid-friendly Miyazaki romp, and it has a girl protagonist. Also Ponyo as well, come to think of it.

>>77867140
Can't put animu shit because most of it isn't dubbed in our language, and they don't know English very well yet.

I've put Rise of the Guardians too but I doubt they'll get most of it (we don't celebrate xmas and easter), the only reason I'm trying to put it there is because they saw a picture of Jack Frost next to Elsa and asked who he was.

Was wondering about Mulan too, guess I should put it there. Thanks for the help by the way.

>>77865346
You can add Guardians of Ra'Ghoule. Mediocre plot desu, but the visuals were probably the best I've seen in any 3d animated film.The Hobbit, Fern Gully and James and the Giant Peache could fit there too. Animatrix doesn't belong there, Allegro non Troppo neither.

>>77867229
No problem.

>and they don't know English very well yet.
In that case I'd totally rec that Shaun the Sheep movie that just came out. Completely dialogue-free and really funny.
Also, now I get why you'd want to show WALL-E too.

Just wondering, what country are you guys in?