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TFG Transformers : Megatron's Been Through Worse With Starscream

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So where was Brainstrom when Quark was getting murdered in the prison camp?
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>>77839885
On Earth fighting the war? Don't know if Quark didn't want to go with him on the Ark or they got separated along the way.
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>>77840086
>earth
>ark
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>tfwiki going into full autistic war mode because of ask vector prime

This is great.
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>>77840923
I always figured it was in a state of cold war with people who legit want to add info up against the nitwit that runs it and insists on LOLRANDUMB captions.
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Anyone know when the holiday issue comes out? Im hoping for Christmas with the scavengers
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Nice mug, Marissa.
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I want to marry Spacewarp!
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>>77843294
Every time I think I can't hate the humans more, they prove me wrong.
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>>77843847
Calm down, anon, just a meme.
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>>77840923
Is it as bad as the whole shindig with IDW having two Hot Shots?
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>>77843900

No, it's even more supremely stupid and trivial.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Ulchtar
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>>77839885
something I don't get;
Brainstorm was M.T.O, right?
but Quark was a forged bot,
Brainstorm was an Autobot, Quark was a neutral:
>politically incorrect: NAIL
when and how did they meet?
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>>77843863
Josh is a meme?
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>>77841482

I need to know this too.

>>77843785

you do know Spacewarp used to be a dude right?

also PROWL DID NOTHING WRONG! OPTIMUS A SHIT!
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>>77841482
Sorry, senpai, no Scavengers for you.
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>>77844928

this looks like it'll be tons of fun.
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>>77843974
Quark became an Autobot, anon. He and Brainstorm worked at Zeta's New Institute.
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>>77844517
Spacewarp is Decepticon Jetfire that has a cute Assie pirate girl voice when speaking. Literally perfect.
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>>77843974
It's been like five million years, Brainstotm just kinda made it over to Quarks lab in the city.
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so i got bored and made the board game the great war from the allspark almanac 2 in tabletop sim, but i dont know a good way to help keep track of the victory points any suggestions tfg?
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>>77845540
ok nvm ive decided to use the pokerchips and an infinite bag
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Someone asked in JRs Twitter if the holoWhirl was actually losing air when it was outside Cylonus' window. How fucking stupid do you have to be, honestly.
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>>77846029
It is Whirl's Persona, right?
So if Whirl is prone, her avatar will be suffering damage.
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>>77846262
>her
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>>77846262
>Whirl
>A girl
There's a horrifying thought
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>>77845348

she's supposed to have an aussie accent....nice.

ok i take back what i said. aussie accents always have me sold.
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>>77846262
It's an avatar. She doesn't need to breath. Whirl is a transformer. He also doesn't need to breath.
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>>77844928
Bought just for whatever Rodimus and Megatron are doing.
This looks like fun.
Do I have to muck with variants?
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So next issue is a fun and happy Christmas issue? Or we getting two? Special and #48?
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>>77844928
More Minimus is also good.
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>>77843847
The only one I like is Verity and she is most likely going to die soon.

I guess Jimmy Pink seems OK and he seems like a good foil for Arcee and makes her more bearable but he gets points taken down for hanging with Spike.
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>>77846869
He is one fine looking robot. I need more of him in my life.
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>>77846913
Well she seems like she is terminally ill, I don't buy the pregnant shit because she is careless with herself and acts like she is going to die anyway not to mention Verity wouldn't be like that if she had a baby.

Humans have short lives compared to a Cybertronian and are very fragile, it's bad enough for a Cybertrobian to get attached to one but bringing them to space with them and in their adventures is one of the worst things they can do.

>>77843294
Can Marissa never not be a raging bitch? I liked her better when she was a random EDC cop and Jazz's buddy.

But really she is unapologetic about what the EDC did to Thundercracker with the clones, also she gave him the dog so she shouldn't bitch about it, could have at least potty train Buster.

They should give her some character development outside being an angry bitch or just kill her off.
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Anyone have refs for Soundwave's back? I tried to look through the more recent exRiD comics but he seems protective of his ass
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>>77846736
We are both getting both. The MTMTE story is only a third of the special.
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>>77847611
I wonder what happens in the RID portion...let me guess Prowl steals christmas because fuck Prowl.

>>77847135

yeah i wish Marrisa wasn't always a bitch.
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>>77849052
His bust grew three sizes that day
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>>77849052
>I wonder what happens in the RID portion...let me guess Prowl steals christmas because fuck Prowl.
The title has been said to be "How Thundercracker and Buster Saved Christmas."
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>>77849728

i was making a joke.

oh riiiight i forgot about that...i really am an idiot.
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>>77849994
I know, I was just saying what it's actually going to be.
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Should I pre-order MTMTE #50 with Milne's regular cover, or his "interlocking mega-set" that we didn't get to see yet? I suppose having picked up issues #1 for MTMTE and RID, I should pre-order RID #50 as well..
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>>77850407
>or his "interlocking mega-set"
How do you get that one? Do you have to ask for it or does in come in regularly along with the plain covers?
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>>77847135
>>77849052

What parts are her being a bitch? I'm mostly seeing a person who isn't as jazzed about alien robots as we are. She's an asshole towards the bots, but that doesn't count as being a bitch.

I don't know, I think Spike is a bitch so maybe I have a weird pov
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I wonder if they'll ever end up doing a month where the interior artists of MTMTE and exRiD switch. Milne's indicated he wants to do it on twitter.
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>>77851641
They feel threatened by a woman in a position of power
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>>77851642

>Arcee has those fucking lashes

For fuck's sake. The lips are alright but those fucking lashes.

No way, Milne's not allowed on exRID if he's going to fuck up Arcee.
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From Jro's twitter
>pre-order codes for MTMTE #50:
DEC150411 (Alex's regular cover)
DEC150412 (Biggie variant)
DEC150413 (Choi variant)
DEC150414 (Roche variant)
DEC150415 (Alex's interlocking mega-set)
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>>77851739
meant for
>>77851605

Also, when is' SotW suppose to take place, with regard to RID?
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>>77851764
>Also, when is' SotW suppose to take place, with regard to RID?
Before #45, judging by this panel.
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>>77851716
Milne made Arcee. Is a tool for his will.
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>>77851841
Wait, what the fuck? So SotW somehow doesn't affect RID at all, barring the possibility of the Wreckers saving the Ark/Autobots last-minute?
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>>77851866
Best to wait until SOTW actually ends before saying stuff like that. ExRiD will probably avoid showing any consequences from it until after its last issue comes out, because of spoilers. We don't know what'll happen to Prowl, for example.
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>>77851716
How else will stupid manchildren know she's a gurl?
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>>77851739
Thank you! Would I give the code to my lcs? I tried searching it on tfaw but it isn't listed.
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>>77852138
Apparently you do, but I have yet to try it myself. Maybe the LCS also can see what the other cover looks like, but I doubt it..
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>>77852167
Ughh I will try since I really want that set but the shop is a 45 minute drive. I really wish the standard online places would put it up for preorder.
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>>77851903
Prowl dies and is reborn as an owl.
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>>77851841
>>77851866
>>77851903
I was not expecting that. Wow so all the stuff that happens to Prowl happens so quickly after Optimus beat the crap out of him.
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>>77852937
>he chases after optimus hooting angrily all the while and pecking at him
>optimus cant hurt him because even though its prowl its against his code
optimus tries to flee into space but owl-prowl somehow fuckiing follows him in a tiny owl space suit
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>>77843294
>Another dyemooch easter egg

If Josh Perez was a mascot for a popular brand in their world, what product would he be?
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>>77851716
I don't get the hate for eyelashes. They're just a tiny feature.
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>>77844928
>James Roberts and Kotteri celebrate with the crew of MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE!
>A special

FOR THE LOVE OF PRIMUS GIVE HER MORE ISSUES TO WORK ON.
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>>77844928
>Transformers look uglier than ever before
No thank you.
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>>77854146
What the fuck is that?
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>>77844928
I want this special so bad
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>>77857257
Soon, soon...
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>>77854146
Bumblebee Bee Butt Polish
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>>77844928
why is kotteri so wonderful
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Josh if you're here and you see this you need to wear your Bumblebee hat more often because you are fucking adorable in it.
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>>77858233
Is that a chicken McNuggets?
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>>77858355
Yes.
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WOOOOO! TRYPTICON WON!

Yeah baby!
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>>77858682
He was always likeliest, but I'm still happy.
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>>77858682
PRAISE PRIMUS! Or should it be Unicron? My theology is rusty here.
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Any new tumblr porn?
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>>77861246
Ask on /y/.
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>>77861508
bingo. Thank you for reminding me that board is there.
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>>77840923
Oh man, what did I miss?
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>>77861866
Some people feel AVP is just so Jim Sorensen can canonise what he feels should be. And that this is a deliberate effort to manipulate the wiki.

Their latest bugbear revolves around Ultchar. Before Starscream was Starscream, he was going to be called Ultchar. And in a previous Sorenson work (the Allspark Almanac, specifically the website addition), he mentioned an Ultchar character. With one of the AVP spin offs, a character describes Ultchar as doing things that Unicron Trilogy Starscream did. Implying that Ultchar and Starscream (specifically UT Starscream) are two names for the same character.

Naturally, this means war.
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did I miss the storytime?
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>>77864644
Storytime of...?
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>>77864693
Transformers
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>>77864644
>>77864693
exrid's not out yet guys.
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>>77864708
scans I mean, just keep an eye on the win-o.
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>>77864708
>>77864715

>>77865441
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>>77865455
>Hi, Buster.
>Hi, Sanjay!
This is so fucking surreal
I wish I was in a better place and my life wasn't like the way it is now
Woof woof
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>>77864644
>>77864693
>>77864708

wait is this months issues out earlier than they normally are?
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>>77844928
Excited/10
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Would you guys be excited for a Scavengers mini-series or an ongoing?
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>>77866585

A mini would be just the right
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>>77866585
I don't know. I think the Scavengers work because we receive such small doses of them. A mini might be okay in the correct writer's hands but could end up becoming Lost Light 2: The Rehashing or EoS in the wrong hands.

I think I'm okay with a two-three issue per season visit with them.
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Blackrock was a proxy of the primes
So it was as people predicted.
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So gang of the "Nine Pillars " what is your tier list.

For those who dont know.


1. Marvel G1
2. G1 Cartoon
3. Beast Wars/Machines
4. Robots in Disguise(2001)
5. Unicron Trilogy
6. IDW
7. Live action films
8.Animated
9.Aligned

How would you rank them?
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>>77867798
Nine Pillars isn't a thing
Fuck off with your bullshit
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>>77867871
What do you mean?That's the in universe term for the Nine Principal TF sagas. Almost every thing TF is based on one or more of those 9
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>>77867957
The Go-Bots that got incorporated into TF terminology, where did the Go-Bots come from, huh?
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>>77868026
The outside the multiverse where things like Marvel superheros and hello kitty hail from
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>>77868077
1-9: ?
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The negative space that exists everywhere the pillars are not.
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>>77868147
I said "almost"for a reason.

Absorbed priorities like gobots and Robotix wouldn't really count>>77868328
Transtech?
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>>77868491
Transtech were based on a cut Beast Machines sequel
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>>77867688
And Effectively a facsimile construct.
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I really like Spike's characterization. He really feels like the hero guy of a different story transplanted to a world where the actions that would save humanity from foreign occupation instead cause problems to our actual protagonists.
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Thundercracker still the best cybertronian
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>>77869593
It took a drone, and a dog to make this comic interesting again.
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>>77869679
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>>77867798
Animated
Beast
Marvel Comic
IDW
Aligned
Films
Unicron Trilogy

RID and g1 toons I can't place
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>>77869849
>Humans words are scrambled

I'll probably descramble them myself after I get back from classes.
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>>77866585

I think they should have at least one comic a year just so you know..oh yeah that's where they are at.

>>77867798

God Tier:

Beast Wars
MTMTE

Good Tier:
Animated
Prime
Cybertron
IDW Not RID
Marvel G1

Ok Tier:
RID (2015)
Rescue Bots
Beast Machines
Armada

Bad but enjoyable tier:
Sunbow G1

Shit Tier:
RID 2001
Energon
All Hail Megatron
Mike Costa Ongoing
Dreamwave
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>>77869898

They're really easy to descramble, I can do that.

>Should this thing be walking around alone?
>It's just Buster.

>Status report?
>The weird signals from the Jupiter colony are continuing (this one I'm not 100% sure of)
>Can you get Soundwave on the horn?
>He's not responding, boss.
>Should I alert Faireborn?

>No, not yet. We'll wait for something important.
>Hey! Who let that dog in?!
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>>77870103
>Jazz apologizes
>Jetfire doesn't
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>>77870175
Jazz probably regrets coming to Earth now.
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>>77870204
Everyone saw this coming.
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>>77870319

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
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>>77870298
>>77870319
This is bullshit.
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>>77870455
He is Nucleon
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>>77870298
>>77870319

>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!

Tune up next time to see how is everyone in christmas yaaaay!

And next year to see galvatron kill everyone and optimus re conquer earth because why not!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>77870298
>>77870319
We Prime War now
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Who is the Zero of Transformers?
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>>77870909
Which Zero?
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>>77871020
The cool one.
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So he's.... what? A human grown in a lab? A cyborg? What?
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>>77870909
>>77871038

You mean Lelouch?
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>>77871084

A facsimile. Ancient one.
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>>77871103
>Different colored eyes
>Funky pupils
Looks like a marry suit
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>>77871084
He's a cyborg grown in a tube by Onyx, designed to call the lord of beasts to reclaim the Enigma.
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>>77871121
>>77871338

Sure. Why not.

Sigh... the best human in TF comic history and they pull this...
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>>77871380
It made sense for a while. He was an illusion, a figure with no past, even he didn't know what he was.

As for him being human... sure his origin didn't have him born, but he thinks like a human, acts like a human, quotes stupid memes like a human.
He is a human, just one designed for a purpose.
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>>77871470

Well, by that I mean he was really good in Gen 1 and ReGen One.

Here it could be anyone, and they just recycled the name.
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>>77871499
That's a different incarnation of Blackrock. Like Optimus, Megatron, Spike etc.

He's a human industrialist, whose work has him tied in to the Cybertronians. He also has snazzy facial hair and glasses. It's the same basic character, just interpreted in a different way.
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>>77851641
I am guessing it's because she's in a foul mood 24/7 and she is very rude to TC all the time, but her worst quality is the fact that she feels she can use the Cybertronian she's allied to and seems like she feels no remorse about what they think about it and treats them like machines.

I get her in a way though, most of the human characters are deeply upset with Cybertronians after the events of AHM (Marissa experienced it first hand), they want them to leave but they are still there.

Soundwave is leaving and taking his group with him so they are fine with that but the autobots are still messing around with Earth and once Optimus tries to annex the planet, it will bring back more problems again for both humans and Cybertronians.

I guess she's kind of polite sometimes? And feels TC is not a threat and she did give him the dog, but I wish she would get more character development than lady who is upset because she is sorrounded with idiots.

She's way better than Spike though but I will still place her under Verity (not like that!).
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>>77870909
This Zero?
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>>77871121
What if he is the linear descendant of a FAMILY of facsimiles? I doubt that's the case, but it could be neat.
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>>77871681
There was no record of him prior to 3 years earlier, so that's probably not the case.
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>>77871656

What you describe as her worst quality is one of the most interesting points for me, heh. She's a focus character, and she's doing all this shit and I'm really interested to see her character growth.

And being able to use the Cybertronians in the first place is a feat. She's not just a grunt, she has power. And I guess that the frustration that comes from being a boss is what influences people's views of her character.

I'd place her under Verity too. Both like that and not.
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>>77871772
Why doesn't she just marry one of the Dececpticons and become a housewife?
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Hey, if we're discussing Marissa, can we maybe give her her Kiss Players design?

........

What? Don't gimme that look.
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>>77871857
I smell a sitcom. SitCon?
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>>77871857

Because she hates the cons and doesn't want to marry a robot, and has a career.

Now I know that we're lacking a robot-lover perspective in the comics but we need to make it someone else.
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>>77871897
I miss G1 where like half the Autobots had human girlfriends.
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>>77870319
Jesuschrist I was expecting a, what's it called? A smart fascimile but not this, wow.
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>>77871882
Fuck off you fucking faggot.
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>>77870204
The Autobots are piiiiiissed.
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>>77871964

More like those human girls knew what's good.

Yeah I miss that too. Give us the robophile representation IDW
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>>77870319
Awwwww shit that's Skywarp in the back, Skywarp and TC reunion.
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>>77869640
>Will NEVER EVER get are Transformer that has one of those VTOL as his altmode
Badfeel
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>>77872111

Nice to finally see Skywarp not wrapped up in wires for once.
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>>77872186
This warps the Seeker
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>>77871772
I don't doubt she is good although she was kind of messing up in the beginning.

I kind of still want her to have more non angry moments though and this issue was a step on the good direction with her character and I do like her banter with TC.

>>77871857
Lol which Cybertronian? And what housewife things can you do for a Cybertronian.

I am for it as long as TC is the annoying next door neighbor asking to borrow shit and dropping in unannounced.
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>>77871897
I think they were joking

>>77871964
Yeah G1 had the perfect balance of girl and robot cuteness, Kiss Players went too far to creepy territory though.

>>77871882
NO
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>>77869980
>>77870298
>>77870319
Megatronus looks absolutely Fucking retarded here.
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>>77872432
That's Galvatron you dipshit.
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>>77872432
Apologies I misread.
GALVATRON looks fucking retarded.
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>>77872432

I don't see what you're talking about
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>>77871882
Shut the fuck up, Boco
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>>77871882
No, but maybe this is an opportunity to see non-terrible versions of Atari Hitotonari and Shaoshao Li.
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>>77871772
I'd place her under Jones like that
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>>77871882

uh....let's not. Flint and Lady Jaye wouldn't approve of their daughter being a loli slut.

>>77873339
I'd love to see these two done again but not shit.
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So what happens now
galvatron will take earth and cybertron?
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>>77876271
What if Optimus fights Galvatron in the Jupiter Stupider Commune and throws him out of the space station like a homage to the Transformers movie all the way from 1986

On a more serious note, by "brother" he means a Cybertronian brother, rather than brothers of Primes, right?
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>>77876271
Optimus will out-conquer Galvatron.
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>>77876464
It's a lot more likely they'll be fighting in the Ark-7, as that's where the space bridge to Cybertron is.

But yes, that could happen.
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>>77872111
It's weird how i didn't recognize him initially.
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>>77869679
So does this mean Soundwave sent D0C this intel? Because Cosmos didn't sound like he was in contact with him.
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>>77872111
that outta be interesting
>hey skywarp guess what i write screenplays and im my own mech now what have you been up too?
>i was a living warpdrive and my every living moment was motionless agony.
>....i got a dog
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>>77869980
>All hail megatron

How did become bad, if I may ask? I haven't read it yet but I do remember a heap of nice looking covers and promotional images.
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>>77869750
Oh god, I thought Buster was a cybertronian or something.
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>>77870319
Nice to see Skywarp's still stuck in WFC mode. It's one of my favorite designs
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>>77870319

This is getting weird in a good way.
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>>77882330
I was enjoying the seekers all having unique designs for once. Thanks for fucking that up, Combiner Wars.
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>>77882802
Don't worry, knowing Hasbro, they'll have another Starscream toy out before long for the IDW version to change his design to.
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>>77882802
That's still the case.

Starscream has a new body based on the new toy, Skywarp is still in his WFC body, and Thundercracker is using his ongoing body (I'll never understand how he switched from his MP body to that one, but I don't think anyone cares).
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>>77870204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQo1HIcSVtg
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>>77885681
I want one with a mini cripple Bee.
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>>77886075
I thought TC and Starscream used the same design?
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>>77890152
Like two bodies ago
You can tell by the shape of the chests and wings among other things.
Similar since both are roughly the same transformation and altmode. Other than how Starscream's cockpit ends up on his back and the gunner's pit is the chest.
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>>77890304
Is Acid Storm using the FoC style still or the classic design? It's neat seeing the seekers diversified finally.
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>>77893073
It defeats the purpose of being a lot of uniform guys.
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>>77893073
I think he switched his WFC design for something else recently.
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>>77894493
Yep, just checked it out and here's his most recent appearance.
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>>77894546
Shit, here's his most recent appearance.

Anyway, designs are:

Starscream: CW Leader toy
Thundercracker: Ongoing design
Skywarp: WFC
Dirge: RID design (similar to War Within Seekers)
Acid Storm: Classic seeker design
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>>77882125
A plot that was intentionally "the G1 cartoon seasons 1 and 2 but EDGIER with VIOLENCE and DEATH".
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>>77895993
Found the butthurt Furman fan.
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>>77895993
>>77897244

even though Furman fucked up with Spotlight Arcee....I can imagine how much better things could have been without them fucking over Furman's original plans.
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>>77898136
They should have made Arcee a combiner instead. Then they would be the only singluar lifeform with plural pronouns since Reflector don't in this universe and you an keep the isolated from everyone else on Cybertron and being a recreation of an extinct race which no one can actively remember but the words to describe it still float around in the language without being sexist.
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>>77899644

wat?
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>>77899644

that's going too far man.
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>>77901447
But Revenge of the Fallen showed that it is possible to use Arcee as a multiple being and it allows for diversity in Transformers population while still allowing Arcee to be unique from everyone else and having compatibility issues. Hell, the current comics have been showing combiners which are many becoming one causing mental issues to components, so a singular consciousness split into multiple bodies sounds like it would be maddening contradictions for senses.
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>>77901509

I never really liked that as Arcee.
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>>77902757
What kind of arcee do you want, pai of sans?
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>>77903093

Basically a nonpsychotic nontransgender, nonmuhpartnersare dead version of IDW/Prime Arcee except actually fun.
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>>77870319
wait; wait a minute
Blackwell is Onyx Prime?
WTF?
How? Why?
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>>77903130
IDW Arcee is awesome though and it sounds like the only Arcee you'd be happy with is the creepy Mommy-cee from G1.
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>>77903175
Bad writing.
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>>77903130
So you want a boring character that has no reason to fight.
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Colonists that become radicalized from exposure to Cybertronian culture and philosophy and become dangerous insurgents when?
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>>77903175
No, he's a synthetic human created by Onyx to serve his purposes.
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>>77903309
In favour, or against cybertronian culture.

Because we've already got those. Swift and Chromia, respectively.
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>>77903377
Chromia is the worst terrorist ever. Can only kill people on accident.
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>>77903404
everyone has to start somewhere
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Shit. I just realized I missed an issue. Went from 46 to 48.
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Combine Arcee with my dick, that's the only thing fembots are good for.
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What's people's favourite depiction of Cybertron?
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>>77905180
Cybertron.
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>>77905180
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>>77903177

I don't really like G1 Arcee.

>>77903276

no. I just want one that isn't psychotic or whines about her dead partners. I mean she can be cocky and snarky but less agressive and in your face about it.

>>77903404

Chromia is shit. why the fuck did Scott think that was a great idea to make her one.

>>77905180
>>77905321

I gotta go with Animated's Cybertron too.
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>>77905382
What is the point of snark if you don't have any tragedy to overcome? Just a generic happy all the time kind of Autobot.
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>>77905382
>>77905321
Interesting. Culturally, or just from appearance?

I found the Autobot society a bit too authoritarian for my tastes.

>>77905268
Ah, so technological mimicking organic at part, and all turning into a giant robot?
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>>77903198
Yet if Roberts pulled a similar stunt, it would be lit'rully the best thing ever.
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>>77905180
The one where it is the idea of three guys in a boardroom named Cy, Bert and Ron.
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Wingblade shows up in TF show and now it's getting cancelled? She was pretty boring in not too.
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mfw you see nice in depth analysis of tf characters in the main tag but you see #noncanon pronouns at the top of the post.
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>>77906824
What's your source on it being cancelled?

All I've seen is that it'll be shorter, with only 16 eps and a movie.
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>>77905498
ok maybe have her as a less overbearing Prime Arcee, most of people I know really dislike her and the bullshit she pulled with Airachnid litterally all they say is MUH Partners.

>>77905977

understandable. I only like the TFA Cybertron for the fact it's an actual planet with a hustling and bustling society.
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>>77907074
>can't even green text
Tumbler is leaking again.
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>>77846510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBYkOOFkOS4
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>>77907569
>Implying
/co/ is infested with tumblr. It's fucking terrible
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>>77907643
Aye.
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>>77907569
welcome to /co/mblr
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>>77907631
It varies by universe.

In most, you'd be correct. In IDW, breathing isn't needed.

Regardless of my thoughts on the series. I will admit I love the next two panels after this page.
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>>77906177
>lit'rully
Go back to /toy/ you faggot.
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>>77907074
Nothing that batshit thing says are canon.
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>>77908002
>>77908271
Canon is for bitches.
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>>77909015
Well bitches do love canons, yes.
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>>77905498
It seemed to work for Knockout. People love him.

Seriously though, I like Prime Arcee, but I can see where that anon's coming from. All the Autobots had some kind of trauma to get through, but her trauma relied on direct repetition.
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>>77908271
If we're talking about the same batshit isn't that the same person who called JRO autistic and wrote paragraphs at him telling him how ableist he is?
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>>77909459
Knock Out has bad stuff in history, he just doesn't talk about it. Even when his partner died he avoided talking about it.
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>>77909518
Yes, that would be the one. It also complains that people don't address disabled individuals correctly in comics but then proceeds to call male characters by female pronouns because lol, its just comics so they can call them what they want.
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>>77907354
>understandable. I only like the TFA Cybertron for the fact it's an actual planet with a hustling and bustling society.

Regeneration 1 had a pretty great Cybertron as well until everyone died.
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>>77909611
There is a difference between being ablest and having headcanon.
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Why is Tarantulas so fat?
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>>77910045

He constantly ate organics.

Then he got ripped.
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>>77909611
Gotta love the logic here.
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>>77909833
Not they way they talk.
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>>77909459
Same.
>>77909645
I never read Regeneration 1 so I wouldn't have known.
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>>77869819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4gyJsY0mc
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>>77870141
>>Jetfire doesn't
That's because Jetfire's a dick.
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>>77910865
Yeah. Planet looked great, bots were shopping, socializing, and doing other random crap.

We don't get to see much of it, but it looked like a nice place to live.
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>>77912564
It doesn't feel like a desolate war-torn world. It isn't Cybertron.
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>>77905180

I like the prewar cybertron from idw it seems so bright for a corrupt civilization
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>>77916831
It's depressing seeing Pre-War Cybertron. All those lively streets and bright cities are now all ruins littered with the dead
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>>77916956
>Muh political status
-Megatron
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>>77916984
Megatron did nothing wrong
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>>77916831
>>77916956

It was quite beautiful
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>>77917011
He created massive upheval that broke a functional society and caused uncountable of deaths across many planets and species and even in just Cybertron-native Transformers more than the population alive when he started.
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>>77917079
>All of this is now ruins
This is why time travelling is always depressing.
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>>77916831
>>77916956
>>77917079
>>77917087
Don't forget that Pre-War Cybertron was controlled by the Functionist Council and the planetary Senate: Which forbade to change jobs/bodies out of will and punished everyone who were against them.
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>>77917087
>>77917288
Megatron was right
Megatron did nothing wrong
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>>77917309
I love IDW G1 Megatron,he was forced into a civil war
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>>77917288
But everyone was designed to be successful in those specific roles.
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>>77917288

yeah thats the sad but ironic part
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>>77917309
Except conquering worlds and wiping out all organic life. If he just stuck with overthrowing the Autobot senate, things might be different.
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>>77918302
Weren't we supposed to get an explanation about how this came about?
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>>77918311
My mind is a little fuzzy if mass organic genocide was always part of his original ideal of Cybertronians being the perfect rulers of space or this came to fill the gaps when Trepan was in the process of erasing his memories of Terminus' teachings.
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>>77870298
>>77870319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLoytewvn0g
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>>77918311
>>77918367
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>>77918561
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>>77918561
>>77918570
How much of this is reliable coming from the fanatic though.

But I'm pretty sure Jro mentioned that in a later issue, we'd get an explanation, so I'm wondering whether or not he was talking about #39 specifically.
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>>77918311
Transformers Monstrosity
Quintesson sold him on the idea of survival at all cost.
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>>77918596

Also this
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>>77918740
Last panel: Megatron is right!!!
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>>77880600
I dunno but I get the feeling Skywarp is going to want to or at least try to squish Buster.

And he's going to be really upset about TC making nice with the humans too.
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>>77918970
Actually, he's not and he knows it.

There's no way he doesn't know about Orion's rebellion. And so he's saying all that for one reason. To make Optimus angry, to make him sloppy.
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Organics that didn't stand with Megatron's galactic revolution deserved to be exterminated.
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>>77917011
Prowl Did Nothing Wrong.

FTFY.
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>>77921636
Shut up, Prowl.
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>>77921636
Liking Prowl, Arcee, or Grimlock makes you a fedora.
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>>77922614
>Hating Grimlock is cool now
Is he that awful in the comics?
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>>77922406
>>77922614
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>>77922614
Nah, liking Galvatron makes you a fedora.
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>>77922646
>not liking the glorious barbarian warlord that will bring Cybertron into a glorious new age once he purges the abominations of beasts and combiners
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>>77922646
Found the fedora.
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>>77918740
>Megatron thinks autonomy and free will should be disposed of.
>Rejects a society where "form dictates function."

Maybe I'm too uneducated to understand, but doesn't rejecting funtionism mean you should be in FAVOR of free will, and allowing people to choose their own destiny?

I'm at a loss as to what Megatron actually fucking wants for Cybertron.
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>>77922614
I like Arcee,
I think she's cool
>Go Arcee! Save your princess!
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>>77923136
He's actually just messing with Prime and his assumptions. Like that providing for all means no free will.

As Prime notes in the issue, and Megatron confesses to Ravage, Megatron is goading Prime, trying to get a reaction, because that's what they do.

I don't think Megatron intended on a world without free will, but he knew Optimus and his bots thought he did. (Seriously, before the end of the war, merely reading Towards Peace would probably get you on a list. So who's going to know what Megs actually wants?)
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>>77923317
Speaking of this scene, would other Decepticons be as sympathetic as Ravage was if they hear of Megatron's motivation to becoming an Autobot?
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>>77923517
You'd be hard pressed I'd say.

I mean, let's say only 20% of cons are True Believers. i.e. They read the philosophy, and actually want the goal espoused in Megatron's writings.

Of those, I'd say most would just view him as a traitor. Maybe just 5% agreeing or sympathising with him.

And the numbers are probably far worse.
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>>77923517
Soundwave would be as sympathetic
Thundercracker would make Prowl look nice with the "I was right" stuff
Starscream would likely laugh his ass off
We already see how the DJD feels about all this
The rest would just go aimless again like they did during the start of the new ongoing.
From what we have seen they by majority are really just a mob to be rallied together.
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>>77894726
Who is purple Decepticon with mask?
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>>77924287
squee?
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>>77923603

I keep wishing they had more Decepticons on the Lost Light, like Blitzwing was supposed to have the role Cyclonus had originally.
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>>77925043
>I keep wishing they had more Decepticons on the Lost Light

I wish the Scavengers and Grimlock met the crew and joined up

I wish that when Team Tarn show up, Deathsaurus and his crew turn on them and opt to travel with the Lost Light

And most of all...I want this guy. He's too cool to just be a background generic, and I want to believe that he's the type who is loyal to Megatron to the point that he will follow Megatron religiously regardless of which faction he joins. (Unlike Soundwave and Tarn)
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>>77925106

yeah it baffles me that Lugnut hasn't become a main character in the comics.

like why the fuck isn't he with Megatron's faction (other than the fact he only created in 2007).
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>>77925133
>other than the fact he only created in 2007

Which itself isn't even an issue since Lockdown got a couple of issues worth of face time, and Knock Out was created even later and he had a pretty major role in the last Windblade series
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>>77925186

well i mean it would have been difficult to make him part of Megatron's inner circle since for a long time Megatron kept being dead or MIA for a decent while.
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we can't let this thread die.
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>>77927572
Such heroic nonsense.
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>>77927572
You did a brave thing, anon.
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>>77927661

NEVER!
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>>77924287

Random bot colored after Toxitron, presumably.
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>>77927572
Alright, in the interest of keeping this thread alive, simple question:

Which minor or obscure characters do you wish were more important, either through the comics or in future cartoon appearances?
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>>77909833
this person literally called jro autistic and then had the nerve to go back around and call /him/ ableist what's your point
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>>77928391
That was a statement of fact, not an insult.
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>>77928384
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>>77928384
Slapdash, Squeezeplay, Crossblades and Vroom.
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>>77928384
None. I like having autistic headcanon that wanks characters I like up to absurd levels and don't want official things which contradict that.
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>>77928441
Really though, some more stuff focused on Sharkticons, their kin, and their colony world would be fucking neat.
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>>77928488
kek
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>>77928480
You are gimmicky as fuck
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>>77928384
I wish IDW would introduce the real Ultra Magnus instead of the impostor wearing his corpse as a costume.
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>>77928493
Sharkticons are mindless beasts.
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>>77928526
he's dead, jim
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>>77928566
I'm still butthurt about Flywheels.
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>>77928521
Thanks.
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>>77928539
Nope, just slaves.

Gnaw was as smart as Sludge (not the highest of compliments I'll grant you), Battletrap, Bonecrusher and a few others. And smarter than Brawl.

He's spoken in complete sentences, has a motto, and his people have been explicitly mentioned as slaves.
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>>77928749
>As smart as Sludge
>Smarter than Brawl
>Sludge is smarter than Brawl

That's just sad.
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>>77928526
Its this faggot again.
Don't you need to go cry about it some more on /toy/ right about now?
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>>77928778
Yup. As dumb as Blot.

I think the only bot dumber might be Abominus.
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>>77928384

Cybertron Crosswise, Thunderblast, G1 Triggercon Ruckus and Windsweeper, HFTD Tomahawk and Terradive and Breacher.
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>>77928867
>Military elite
>Dumb
What. Shouldn't they be high intelligence tactical dudes?
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>>77929187
Autovolt get out REEEEEEEEE
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>>77929207
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>>77929250
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>>77929207
>>77929250

stay salty my friends.
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>>77929191
The others are all brilliant. It's Brawl's fault Bruticus is so dumb. He's just there for the fighting, and being great at following orders.
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>>77929371
I'm picturing Onslaught trying to teach Brawl military tactics and gives him some books, and Brawl looks at The Art of War, flips through the pages, and rips it in half while Onslaught is visibly distraught.
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I wish Brawl wasn't so dumb. Like he shouldn't be book smart but being dumber than Sludge should be a crime.
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>>77929569
Dumb tankposter
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>>77929422
You know, I'd never looked at his old profile before.

I kinda want to see him in the spotlight now, because goddamn is he nasty.
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>>77928384
They keep killing those characters in IDW, so I'm not exactly happy about it.
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>>77930090
Don't worry, there are multiple instances of characters between the names used in different regions.
Like if they kill off Racemaster, can still be a Rapido, Race Engine, and Sirius.
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so is the mtmte xmas special issue an issue on it's own and then we get #48 or /is/ the special issue #48?
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>>77930616
it's two separate issues
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>>77930616
It's a Christmas special for all three books, anon.
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>>77930633
>>77931431
Thanks!
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I hope Season 2 of Robots in Disguise has a cute Lamia Decepticon!
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It's not a Christmas special it's a holiday special you fucking anti-semites. Do you think James Roberts cares about Christ?
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>>77931847
Optimus Prime and Jesus are the same character.
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>>77931899
IDW Optimus did not die for your sins.
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>>77931941
He has died enough across various continuities and double-dipping in some that all sins in every universe have been forgiven.
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>>77931963
What about the universe we are living in right now?
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>>77931899
Let's take Jesus off the dashboard, has a lot on his mind.
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>>77931992
Yes. Jesus is an aspect of the greater Deity Optimus.
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>>77928566
none of the bots on that list besides flywheels were actually dead at that point though
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>>77932096
The alternate Lost Light that was slaughtered by the DJD
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>>77932136
Those don't count as real since those were just copies
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>>77932222
And the Necrobot knows this because....?

>Alternate Lost Light is created
>Slaughtered by DJD
>Necrobot finds the destroyed Lost Light prior to it being cancelled out
>Records all the names
>Finds Flywheels shortly there after

Probably removed the names again when it turned out that there were still living versions of the characters dicking around
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>>77932297
This is why the Necrobot is shit. Lifeforms that are not omnipresent don't deserve to be recordkeepers.
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>>77932385
He wasn't even a real Necrobot.
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>>77932401
There's no such thing as a "real" Necrobot

>>77932385
What are you, some kind of mortalist? Check your privilege, ominpotent scum
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>>77932401
He was assigned that role by his superiors. Just was deified over time.
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>>77932222
Nah, both lost lights are equally real, just one's entirely dead except for its Rewind.

They're not copies any more than the one we followed was.
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>>77932955
Being the one the audience was exposed to makes it the real one, while all alternatives are expendable. This is soft Sci-Fi 101.
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>>77931899

Did Optimus Prime get stabbed in the back by Springer/Judas at G'th Semane?

Didn't think so.
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>>77934899
It is used for summoning demons
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>>77935051
Either that, or they're Jews.
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>>77935051
>>77935856

I lean to the second theory.
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>>77936348
Yeah. How can they be Jewish if they eat meat and don't wear silly hats?
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>>77936458

Optimus Prime is Jewish so.....
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>>77937783
Optimus Prime can't be Jewish. He is the offspring of a different god.
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>>77905180
I wish they poured a bit more effort in the Bayverse cybertron outside of the Baycomics.
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hi guys, i'm doing some christmas shopping for a friend who's into transformers. do you have any recommendations as to which writers/story arcs are decent and which to avoid when i'm looking at omnibus volumes?
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>>77938635
If he's into Transformers, he probably has some of those issues. (Assuming he's not completely /toy/)
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>>77938688
she's kind of a poorfag and mostly has the newer IDW comics
the ones with the lost light and DJD
i can't for the life of me remember what they're called :(
thought she is pretty /toy/ too so i should check out the transformers thread there for a few ideas too
thanks anon!
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>>77939075
Transformers More Than Meets The Eye volume 1-5 is what she most likely has. Go buy her Transformers Spotlight Omnibus, which has a beige colored cover with Optimus on it.
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>>77939075
LAST STAND OF THE WRECKERS.
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>>77939075
Buy her a dildo with her favorite robot's colors, that's all MTMTE fangirls really want anyway.
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>>77939250
as tempting as that is, she would take it and ram it into my eye socket so i'm gonna have to pass. :(

>>77939227
probably gonna go with this, the hardcover version i found on ebay looks pretty neat-o.
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>>77939075

If she has MTMTE (More than Meets the Eye), you could get her some Robots in Disguise. Or maybe Last Stand of the Wreckers.

Look for names John Barber and James Roberts.

If she has all the new stuff though, and you want to buy an Omnibus, there's ones for Spotlights like >>77939193 says, and a few other collections. An IDW Collection hardcover could be a really neat gift idea too.

>>77939227

For LSOTW you can get the TPB, the hardcover, or the collection with it (IDW Collection volume 6)

>>77939250

Believe it or not, this is also a viable idea. But only if you know that she likes that sort of stuff.
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>>77939250
>that's all MTMTE fangirls really want anyway
Don't be coy anon, we know most fanboys probably have a neon pink fleshlight with "Arcee" down the side. Nothing to be ashamed of :^)
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>>77939440

Why would you get a fleshlight when you can get an actual robot pussy (and dick) from Frisky Beast
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>>77939310
Definitely get the hardcover if you go with LSOTW. It comes with a ton of extras.
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>>77939473
>feeling of comfy when reading the extras before going to bed
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>>77939473
>>77939494

Which of the stories is your favourite anons? Zero Point? Bullets? Out of Bullets?
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>>77939469
D-Do they have a purple one I can pretend is Nautica?
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>>77939440
Arcee a shit. Worst girl.
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>>77939507
Zero Point. Pretty sweet for a big guy.
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>>77939528
You can buy Skywarp's and pretend it's Slipstream or Impactor
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>>77939528

You get to choose the colour, man. Go wild. They're pretty cheap too compared to other stores.

And come in two sizes.
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>>77939564
So Slipstream is actually a boy that just has a feminine build and voice?
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>>77939742
I've always considered her to be hermaphrodite despite lack of genitals in any canon.
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>>77939742
Every woman in existence is actually a boy with a varying degree of feminine traits.
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>>77939742

Get on with the program, dick+pussy is standard for robots.

>>77939793

No it's the other way around. Fetuses start as female and then end up developing differently with varying amounts of masculine traits.
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>>77930170
Yeah, but I still don't like it:

-Electro shows up to die.
-Skram shows up really early on, then his next appearance is in the background years later, and gets killed shortly after.
-Sunstreaker isn't obscure, but he really got the short end of the stick compared to his bro in most media, and it's only gotten worse with time. He gets treated well in his initial appearances, then it all goes to shit with AHM, and while they tried to salvage it (and we got a dog out of it) he turned into a background character after that so it was pretty much it for him.
-Natulilator shows up to die.
-Apeface gets killed

And the list goes on.
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>>77939787
So xhe really is an Overlord/Ramjet ripoff despite Wyatt's claims.
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>>77939793
/arceespotlight
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>>77939821

Still a she no matter what you headcanon between her legs
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>>77939821
She's V. She can be you, she can be me, she can be your everybot.
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>>77928384
BW Manta Ray. She was my first Transformer and I hope she shows up again in future comics.
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>>77939820
Then just tweak then name slightly and you have a replacement. Like Effectro, Mercury, the police-cars Diaclone with name like Counter-Arch or something, Lobclaw, and Majompofa and you have new blank slates to tell what story you wanted.
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>>77939936

That's a pretty cool first one to have.

She made an appearance in Windblade #6 but other than Manta Ray and Sonar being the leaders of two tribes, it was a TERRIBLE issue.
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>>77939936
The Beast Wars Sourcebook is only accurate to itself and IDW's The Gathering/The Ascension.
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>>77939820
At least you didn't like the Micromasters. I think most of them show up, then Arcee slices them to bits. They brought a few of them as "normal" transformers, but it wasn't the same.
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>>77940023
Okay? I know. Why are you posting about it?
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Whats the difference between Marvel UK's run and Marvel US's run?
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>>77940076
UK has a fuckton more story regularly inserted into the US run, and minorly alters the US run to accommodate that. Also, the GI Joe crossover doesn't happen in UK.
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>>77940076
The UK run reprinted the US run with many additional stories.
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>>77940076
Marvel UK cut the issues in half, censored and retconned things, and was endless wanking over the Dinobots and Galvatron.
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>>77940029

Empire of Stone had Knockout and Grit, and Grit was pretty cool. We also got the Micromaster colony so even though Vanquish died in EoS, he's still alive too but as a moeblob by Scott.

>>77940076

Marvel UK includes the US run and a shit-ton of-- >>77940118 yeah this. And the writers were good.

UK has Wreckers.
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>>77940140
>furman
>good
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>>77940157
This.
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>>77940135

Wait, I appreciate your honesty but care to elaborate on those two things? Did they do two issues for the length of one? And what did they censor?

>>77940157

I like his older works, it has its own style but I can understand it's not your jam.
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>>77940172
US run was monthly, UK run was weekly and would sometimes have part of a US issue and part of a UK story and a non-TF backup story in one issue.
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>>77940076
So then which is recommended? I'm at issue 6 of the US run and I was thinking I should jump ship if I need to while I have the chance
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>>77940076

1. Transformers UK was weekly so the US issues were sliced up into weekly installments of 8-9 pages. There were also changes made to reflect...

2. That the UK series had original stories, partly due to the fact that the two books launched around the same time and they had to have said filler so they did not burn through all the US material.

Most of the early filler was shit until around the time the movie came out. Simon Furman launched a massive three year long storyline involving Galvatron and the movie cast traveling back and forth to the present, to sidestep the fact that Hasbro ordered Optimus Prime and Megatron killed off while not mandating a time skip/usage of the movie characters by writers in the US.

The Galvatron storyline weaved through the US stories #20-50 and ultimately culminated in the climax of the series. After the storyline ended with the Time Wars epic, Furman was hired to write the US Transformer comic and the original stories in the UK run became back-ups and later, a secondary canon called "Earthforce" which was used to hype a UK exclusive re-issue campaign of a lot of older TF toys, before new stories stopped around issue #289. The series continued, reprinting older UK stories and American material, until around #333.
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>>77940285
#332 you fucking CASUAL.
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>>77940285
Keep reading the US run

The UK run, especially the Galvatron epic, is pretty disjointed because Furman was beholden to the US run and had to constantly stop/start it every couple of issues. They work better when you read the main UK stuff all in one run, especially in terms of contrasting it with the US run.

So read the US series, then pick up the following stories:

Dinobot Hunt
New Generation
Target 2005
Fallen Angel/Galvatron: Wanted Dead Or Alive
Legacy of Unicron
Space Pirates
Time Wars

Afterwords, if you want, you can pick up Earthforce, but like I said in my post above, Earthforce is in it's own continuity.
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>>77939876
I named my fleshlight V but it never criticizes the scientific accuracy of my porn so it's really not the same.
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While they fucked up and continue to fuck up the US release TPBs, IDW's "Complete UK" trade series is your best bet for reading the UK series. It collects EVERYTHING UK related and has major footnotes for the US stories so you know how they relate with regards to the US series.
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>>77940260
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>>77939742

I hadn't even considered that.
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>>77943963
Turns out she's the Starscream who no one respects.

No wonder she's so pissed off.
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>>77944139

Slipstream is Rodney Dangerfield.
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Wait I'm confusing myself. How long did the war last? Tailgate was underground for 4 million year. He missed it start and end. I thought the war went on for like 6 million years, not two
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>>77945793
And on that note, why did Brainstorm even become a double agent in the first place. It couldn't have been just for Quark's sake.
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>>77945793
they really need to get rid of the whole 4 million years thing, just because it's G1 doesn't mean it makes sense nor is it necessary for all modern Transformers series.
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>>77945793
Nah, Tailgate's been underground for 6 mill.

Megatron was built 5 million years ago, during the Silver Harvest. He issued his only demand for surrender 4 million years ago.

>>77945914
He explains it in his trial. All the parts he needed for his time machine, the cons had. Signing up as a double agent was the easiest way for him to get his hands on them.
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>>77946468
So it really was all for the sake of a one sided love interest? Sheesh, that's pretty intense/totally insane.
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>>77946001
Yeah, it's too ridiculous in scale. A four thousand year war would be just as valid.
I mean, the only reason it was 4 million years in the cartoon is that they crashed into earth back then.
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>>77946610
Yes. Brainstorm is the creepy stalkerest.
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>>77946610
Well, and the idea that stopping Megatron from causing the great war would be an awesome thing in general, yeah. But Quark was the nucleus behind it. The idea that became the idée fixe.
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>>77946741
I though saving rewind was the first after thought and then Megatron was an after after thought. And then Brainstorm was like ooooo yeah I should totally try to save everyone.
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>>77946975
His decision to save everyone came before he used his time machine. That's why he (tried to) set it to home in on Megatron. So he could stop Megs killing a guard, and snowballing out of control.
And when that failed, he tried to go back to stop Megs from being beaten up by Whirl.

All of this would have stopped the Decepticonism movement from turning warlike, thus saving Quark. And of course, ensuring Brainstorm never existed in the first place.
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List of IDW characters with relateable motivations: Megatron, Overlord, Brainstorm, Prowl. Everyone else is bad.
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>>77947082
He was ok with not exciting at all for Quark's sake? Cause I remember rewind pulling g the trigger on Megatron not to save themselves but the others in the galaxy. To which Rodimus was like.... Uhhh I guess that's a good reason.

So BS built the time machine FOR finding Megatron and then had the afterthought of saving Rewind and Quark? Sorry, I'm confused and this is why I hate time jumping stories.
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>>77947393
Yeah, time travel can be confusing. Lemmie try and explain it.

Brainstorm was created as Genitus of Operation: Solar Storm. A MTO soldier. A defrosted spark in a built body, to provide support for a particular battle.

Along the way, he fell in love with Quark, an unrequited love, but one he felt strongly enough about that when Quark was killed, it hurt him deeply.

Brainstorm, now using his nickname like the others from the New Institute, decided that the best way to deal with this, was to make that death never happen. And the best way to do this was to ensure the war never came about.

So he spent thousands of years working on the theory behind the time machine, figuring out the mechanisms behind it. And then joining the Decepticons to get the parts for it.

Along the way, others he cared about died. Rewind, for instance. But Brainstorm knew that if he stopped the war, they'd all live.

But he wouldn't. As a MTO, his spark wouldn't be used. Or at least, if they decided to start a second Silver Harvest, it wouldn't be the same body, or mind, and wouldn't be Genitus, or Brainstorm.

Brainstorm was prepared to never exist, if it meant Quark wouldn't die. He just wasn't prepared to kill someone to do it. Even if it was Megatron (or at least the Megatron he thought it was).
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>>77947967
I love you. Thank you.
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Had chromedome or brainstorm ever gone to earth in the past 6 million years, it was that only in G1.

Wait, they didn't even go to Earth in G1 did they? They were always in other planets.
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>>77948418
Hey, no problem. Explaining convoluted plotlines is the least I can do.

>>77949015
They've been to Earth in the marvel comics, Headmasters cartoon and manga, and the Legends (the online game thing) continuity.
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>>77949243
What do I need to read in order to know about the New institute?
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>>77950226
Well, I think the most important stuff comes from
The Reluctant Specialist (Spotlight Trailbreaker, contains our first details) and Remembrance Day (MTMTE #14, us seeing it in action)
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>>77947256

I like you.
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How many eras do you like Cybertronian history to be split up into?

IDW has 5.
The Guiding Hand.
The Knights of Cybertron.
The Primes.
The Golden Age.
The Great War.

The cartoon had 3.
The Quintesson Rebellion.
The Golden Age.
The Great War.

Animated had a whole mess of the same basic pairing of good and evil.

Which works best, in your opinions?
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>>77952876
Weren't there more than 3 wars in cartoon?
Sandstorm's people left before War Dawn and was called the 3rd great war.
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>>77953242
Ah yes, you're right, sorry. I'd forgotten that the Autobot vs Decepticon wars weren't just one long period.

So revision time:

Quintesson Rebellion/First Cybertronian War
First Golden Age
Second Cybertronian War (Decepticons rise up. Ended when Autobots learn transformation)
Second Golden Age (Ends when Megatron is created by Constructicons, Decepticons learn how to transform, and Orion Pax becomes Optimus Prime)
Third Cybertronian War.


Also, I love this passage from Desertion of the Dinobots: "Millions of years ago, Cybertron was a planet of peace. Until the Decepticons, lusting for power, began a terrible war. Not designed for combat, the Autobots were overwhelmed and subjugated by their evil opponents. While many Autobots fled Cybertron, a few valiant survivors devised new tactics and launched a counter-offensive on their arch foes. And thus began a terrible series of wars. Many times both sides have claimed victory, but this has been short-lived, for the Autobots have overthrown Decepticon tyrants, and, likewise, Decepticon treachery has toppled many a peaceful Autobot ruler. And, to this day, the war rages on!"

We're not exactly presented with a real difference between the Decepticon tyrants and peaceful Autobot rulers. Other than when the latter are brought down, it's through treachery.
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>>77939820
Nautilator at least with him we found out he sounds like Megatron.

>>77952876
It doesn't matter as long what happens is interesting.
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