>/co/ complaing about soccer moms
How hypocritical. Just yesterday there was somebody on /co/ who started a thread because he had been triggered by the human character biting the head off a bug.
I took my daughter to see this and she cried but it doesn't surprise me she cries for everything
I wasn't aware that people getting emotional from movies was news though
But what's funny is when she came home and told people about the movie all she said was I cried!
She likes to sound like her mom over dramatic
Basically these parents are upset because they find crying children obnoxious. They take them to movies to get them to shut up for a couple of hours.
Not because they're interested in art, drama, or appeals to emotion.
>Humans and Dinosaur coexist, The Movie
I hate this
>They take them to movies to get them to shut up for a couple of hours.
>implying children are quiet at the movies
I work in the child center at a gym, I run classes so the kids have something to do while the parents exercise.
there is this one kid who is there literally every time I go in, hes there in the morning, hes there on the weekends, hes there after school.
when hes in my classes he doesn't listen at all, in fact hes disruptive. He's isn't mean or bad but hes acting out like while I am instructing he will go over to the toy box and start pulling toys out and throwing one of the balls, or I made an obstacle course and he kicks everything over as he runs through it. I actually kicked him out of the class for that one because when I have 23 kids to work with I can't take the time to chase 1 down and clean up his messes.
I talked to his mother about it, she says he probably just has low blood sugar and they are "trying a new diet" to get him to listen, because apparently he doesnt engage properly at home either.
I was very tempted to say "how about instead of a new diet you stop dropping him off here for hours every day and spend some time teaching him how to listen and socialize properly"
because for some of these parents its like a kennel for their children, they just drop them in there and fuck off for a few hours every day.
>Pixar's worst film getting shitted on from all ends
>bad box office
I shouldn't be okay with this, but I am. Pixar needs some good slapping around. You were the best animation company in the U.S. until Cars 2, get back on track you hack fuckers.
problem is this parent backlash is exactly the sort of stupid thing that makes animation WORSE
name a single movie or show that actually became better after a parent organization got involved, a single god damn one
From what you are telling the kid barely have any contact with his parents. He is basically an egg that placed on an incubator and them have the chick raised with other chicks. You can't expect a kid to develop well like that.
>someone tells you to shut up
>they are somehow wrong for calling you out on your shitty behavior
That's not how it works, retard. "People" like you and OP make discussion on this board nigh-impossible.
Seriously, does anyone on /co/ like anything, because that ever happens is complaining about how everything is shit.
For most of your post I was wondering why this kid's parents liked exercising so damn much. It wasn't until the very end that I realized they probably aren't even using the gym when they dump him there.
My kid's developed an interested in science. She wanted to go to the local science museum for her birthday to, you know, learn some science and have fun.
The whole thing has basically been turned one giant day care. Literally half of one floor has had the exhibits ripped out and replaced with playground/ball pit equipment with no educational value whatsoever. The rest is little puzzle games which might have something to do with IQ but has nothing to do with actual science.
There was this one station she wanted to do, a water rocket launcher. It had simple instructions. Lock bottle in place, turn one valve to fill it half with water, the other valve to fill half with pressurized air, unlock to launch rocket. She ends up getting stuck behind some brat who cuts in line, and does nothing for five minutes but bang on the launch button for no results, while the mom is standing way at the back of the room texting on her phone.
It's pretty good. Certainly not pixars worst. Much better than Cars 2, Toy Story 3, or Inside Out. Basically it's Lion King with better animation.
That said you can really see where executive meddling fucked with it, and it could have been much better.
Sounds like a bunch of pussies teaching their kids to be pussies. Just about every Pixar and Disney movie has messed up shit in it. I seriously doubt this particular movie somehow sets a significantly higher bar for messed up shit in a Disney or Pixar movie.
>Cars 2, Toy Story 3, or Inside Out
>Mentioning Cars 2 in the same sentence as Toy Story 3 and Inside Out
its unfortunately a situation perpetuated by the company, however on the flip side the facility is amazing.
we have on site a hair salon, spa, cafe, we want parents to drop their kids off and have free time so they can spend money on the other stuff.
so moms will come take a pilates class for an hour and then spend two more hours getting a facial and pedicure
>tfw the kick ass deep sea area of the Adventure Aquarium has been converted into a kiddie corner with music exhibits and "touch and explore" smart pad stations
that sounds pretty bad
I'm part of a youth astronomy club at the local observatory and we do occasionally get parents who drop off kids as if it were a daycare but we try to keep it actually scientifically relevant and teach interested children something new (without being to much school like)
This. I'm fine on the film getting bad reviews and poor sales for looking like a sappy cheap cash grab, but when a movie does poorly and the audience response is it was "too violent" or "too emotional," it doesn't matter if it was a bad movie- that sucks. Because now the studio has the idea they should tone down their future movies and make them less violent and less emotional and take less risks, and that just sets us down a bad path towards a trend of "safe" and boring movies, with no positive artistic development.
Man, them's some shit tier opinions.
My cousin's a single mother. She regularly dumps her baby daughter in her parents' house while she goes to hang with her girl friends. One might think after the girl became gravely ill, to the point of unconsciousness and convulsing, a few weeks ago because of an urinary infection, apparently, would change my cousin's mind, but nah. She's still a teenager in mind and heart.
I don't care what my mom says; I'm bringing up this topic next time I meet her. Bring it up slowly, so I can I watch her reaction carefully. I really want to see what goes inside the head of one of these 21th century parents.
>A movie is finally made for children that isn't watered down
>Parents go apeshit over it
What the fuck.
Why can't we have nice things.
Do people not remember pre 80's Disney movies at all?
How does it feel /co/ that the cartoons with content that was once award winning.
Is now controversial?
No, see, fucking them will only give them more attention.
Modern audiences are increasingly averse to anything that's not "feel good". Anything that has strong drama or violence scenes without quippy, funny banter tends to get avoided by mainstream viewers.
Just compare action films in the 80s to those nowadays.
Nah, fuck that. Traumatize them more. The sooner more kids get traumatized, the sooner we can make the Wes Andersons and John Greens of the world lose any traction they had over fetishizing innocence.
You're doing exactly what OP's pic is about.
>M-MUH COMFY CARTOONS
Don't act like you haven't gotten away with it in the end. Action cartoons are a dead genre. Thanks...
See and then my mother asks me and my wife why we don't bring our daughter around more often so we can go hang out with our friends (mid twenties here). It just seems irresponsible to force other people to look after your children more than strictly necessary.
I noticed this too...
As if most CGI animated films werent tamed enough already, those parents want them to be even tamer than before...
I wonder if any of those parents even remember the family films of their childhood like The Neverending story, which had some stuff that would be considered too "dark" for modern audiences...
That being said, I still see some parents bringing their kids to see R rated movies with them...
Action cartoons are being dumbed down again because everyone says they were too complex for kids...
All that progress that started in the late 80s and 90s is now just shattered and left to shit... It's never going to stop hurting. Close to 30 years worth of effectively proving kids could handle better written action shows is just dead in the water.
but those things give kids nightmares, which is horrible since I gotta get out of bed as well and answer difficult questions
difficult questions are for teachers to answer and us to complain about when we don't like what they say
>That being said, I still see some parents bringing their kids to see R rated movies with them...
Those probably aren't the ones complaining to theater staff about their blubbering kids, so I guess there's still hope.
>I still see some parents bringing their kids to see R rated movies with them...
It's strange. I see parents that will allow their kids to be exposed to all kinds of risky material in other media aimed at adults in television, the internet, books, and film. Sex, rape, violence, murder, etc. But then if they see something "for kids" that's animated that seems to even inch towards those topics just a little bit, they get really upset over it and all "you can't put THAT in a children's film." It's like they're upset at the principle of the matter: cartoons are for kids and therefore must be safe, even if kids themselves can handle adult content.
But, anon, teachers aren't supposed to teach us. They're supposed to show us how to apply common core instead of basic arithmethics because No Child Left Behind™. Kids don't go to school to learn; they go to make the school get more juicier grants!
My friend worked at a movie theater and said quite a few people brought their kids to see Watchmen and complained to the people working there that it was too sexual and violent for children and couldn't really grasp that it was R rated and all of them spouted "But it has superheroes!"
I find it hard to have faith in anyone...
I really hate it when people start a sentence with this. It implies that something happening before makes all future similar incidents not worth noting. If this article were titles "First Kids Movie Ever to Make Kids Cry" then sure, ask people to recall previous cases as if they forgot.
This is why I never plan of having kids.
Even when artificial wombs and nannies will exist.
That is pretty dumb. But it's also too silly for me to take that seriously. This must be what condescension feels like.
That just sounds like people who can't into movies, gatekeeping or taking chances.
That was tongue-in-cheek, jokes anon, do you know what jokes are?
Makes sense to me. Old Yeller had a lot of important lessons, like what rabies used to be called, and not to fuck with wild boars unless you know what you're doing - y'know, stuff every kid should know.
Man say what you will about welfare shit but I'm glad my mom was on it when I was a kid. I haven't always liked her but when your little it helps to know that someone gives a shit about you.
People aren't machines, at least not simple ones. Even when they're tiny and empty-headed they need more than just "input" they need interaction.
Folks just expect children to turn into functional adults as they age without thinking about the process of maturing itself.
Personally I'd like to wait a long ass time to before I have a kid. Being an old dad is better than being a bad dad.
Fuck you, nobody takes their kid to the theater to have them crying and being unable to sleep alone for the next week.
They should invent a rating system that warns parents of- Oh wait, never mind, guess Pixar just doesn't give a shit about it.
Son, there's no way in hell anyone can deal with a baby when they're old. Imagine going a year without sleep when you're fucking 45, that little shit running around and needing attention.
Ah well I guess "old" is the wrong the wrong term. I'm still in my early twenties so I was thinking more mid thirties. It still seems a long way from here. It'll probably feel like a flash by the time I'm there but I might manage to get some shit done in that time. Hopefully by that point I'm secure enough to have a kid or, if I'm not, I can stay as far away from parenthood as I can manage.
Probably won't turn out that way but it is something.
Unsurprising. Most 'people' on /co/ are likely giant insectoid creatures tapping away at the keyboard with their forelimbs. Of course they're horrified by brutal displays of homosapien dominance.
Pixar doesn't set it's own ratings. No studio does. Blame the MPAA if you think they gave a film an inappropriate rating. Though, I seriously doubt The Good Dinosaur needed to be rated the next rating up, PG13.
To be honest, the pterasaur stuffing the critter down his gullet seemed pretty out of place in a Pixar film. That plus the fruit segment and other stuff made me feel like I was watching more of a Dreamworks film.
/co/ it is your sworn duty to film, animation and story telling to get into the entertainment business and bring in quality works.
You must shove high-quality, emotional content into the throats of the pacified, coddled, dim-witted modern audience of nowadays.
If you love storytelling, you must. Lest every movie turns into Inside Out and Terminator Genishit.
My cousin does that. The only thing that gets her to react is the threat of taking the kid away, because she'd lose the only thing that buys her sympathy. Without the kid, she'd have been kicked out on the streets long time ago.
>It just seems irresponsible to force other people to look after your children more than strictly necessary
My sister does that, but unintentionally. She's around when they visit, but my niece finds playing with my brother and I more fun than sitting with her, watching TV.
I had a friend who worked at a theatre who had practically the exact same thing happen to them.
Pan's Labyrinth. The woman leaving with her scared absolute shitless kid complained this fairy tale was too dark.
>an individual on an imageboard posts something you don't like
>attribute that post to the other thousands of people who use the imageboard
>Your dad actively beats you and your mother, tells your mother he's gonna slit your throat
>Mother claims she's gonna take you away so people stop asking, stays with father just to keep her nice mansion even if it means you die
idk how anyone thinks women are anything less than subhuman desu
I haven't heard of this film, but I just Googled it.
The only source I can find that talks about backlash against it is the DailyMail article already cited.
I think it's safe to say that this isn't really news and there isn't some large group of parents protesting this movie.
>Taking 2-3-year-olds to the cinema
Fucking Americans, I swear. You've got no one else but yourself to blame.
To be completely fair, when I watched this in theaters there were multiple times when children started crying. Not all the children, but enough to make me regret watching an afternoon showing and not an evening.
This is exactly why I never watch /co/ stuff in theaters. There's a mom reading subtitles to her stupid kid on the right (because she obviously can't be fucked to take him to a dubbed showing). There's a dumb kid asking stupid question that he would know the answers to if he actually watched the movie instead of suffering from ADD on the left. There's some kid crying for whatever reason in front. And there's a little faggot kicking your chair behind you. And of course there's always some kid near you commenting on the movie and explaining stuff to his mom like she's literally retarded. And let's not forget the hour-in mark when literally every kid in the theater needs to go and pee because their parents bought them a huge fucking cup of soda and they, having no self control, guzzled it down in the first half hour.
I'm actually pissed from reading this.
Fucking forever childfree. I don't want kids but if I did, I wouldn't want them to live by the standards these shitty parents force upon them. Why did these idiots even decide to make one if they don't give a fuck about raising it?
And now we have disinterested parents who think "quality time" once a week matters, and a society treating kids like they're mentally handicapped to keep 'em comfy until that happens.
The teenagers I know that were raised like this are spastic idiots with the attention span of a goldfish. The future generation, ladies and gentlemen.
yes, they are low end trash, did you know that the Catholics forced their children to see the Exorcist when it was released and re-released in theaters?
children of all ages, babby as well.
and then people claim to be educated and rational
fuck this gay earth
If I ever had two choices : make a new world with only people from 4&4+4 chan or normalfags, Id go with the chans. At least there would be less retards.
>We don't want children to learn
Now it took awhile for me to get some stuff because my mom partially sheltered me partially let me watch really scary movies. But fucking this was pretty much the lion king for a newer generation. I really hope this is just a few people because if parents are really not letting their kids watch this and fucking grow from the experience than their retarded. Though it would honestly be better to go with the lion king. It was pretty much this but better.
>a boy who is treated like a dog
He was literally a feral child in a world where humanity itself was recent. It was intentional comedy, not a fucking docudrama about children being treated like animals. What next, people are gonna get triggered by Flea's character in Wild Thornberry's?
oh yeah, I had a great time when I went to the re-release, tons of mexican babby going fucking insane.
when the theater went dark for a minute or so my friend and I laughed, some kid got scared and claimed to have pooped on his mom.
They're right, all art should be a safe dull gray mush that elicits no emotion.Why can't more people make movies with sweethearts like those little yellow tic tacs?
>If I ever had two choices : make a new world with only people from 4&4+4 chan or normalfags, Id go with the chans. At least there would be less retards.
A lot more sociopaths though. Hell I'd probably take Tumblrinas over some of the redpilled maniacs that roam this place.
This is the damn problem, they're shit tier and write click bait articles all the time. Don't know why anyone even uses the site and it pains me to see how often I see them linked here
Despicable Me was a mediocre kids flick but the Minions themselves were always tailor made for the purpose they serve today. They're the comedic equivalent of Poochie. Some team of suits sat around a table and designed characters that strictly appealed to the lowest common denominator. Those "characters" are about as creatively bankrupt as you can get.
My favorite indication of this is the fact that they felt the need to fix the Minions slightly fucked up teeth in the sequels. The one little creative touch the design team put into these characters was promptly squashed so they could sell more Minions plushies.
>The report released by students of USC, stated "demands" for new forms of media ratings
>"We need people to be aware that other people have feelings. They can not just do whatever they want if it hurts others' feelings." says Roreeree White, the leader of the Black Lives Matter Movement at the college.
>the new proposed rating system is as follows:
>KI-T: kid with trigger warning
>PG-T: parental guidance with trigger warning
>G-T:lgbtqa with trigger warning
>A-S: all sexual
>A-T-S: all sexual trigger warning
>A-T: all trigger
>NC-17: 17+ with parents
>NC-T-17: 17+ trigger warning, with parents
>R: adult (23+ only)
>R-T: adult (23+ only) trigger warning
>X: anything that shows/demeans a woman or anyone from lqbtqa+-~ demonkin etc. All forms of cleavage/ nudity go here
>BANNED: any movie with a sex scene with exposed ass
there's nothing wrong with being hard core, anon. Most who post on /pol/ won't do shit when something goes bad.
Timblr is exponentially worse. At least people here think. Tumblr is where brain cells go to die
Same, but in interstellar
I went to IMAX and had seats a little above the mid portion. First day, first show. This fucking fatass in front of me is using his phone with the light on full. His son is crying and telling him he needs to pee, while the fatass is munching on his popcorn.
The real kicker is that he was watching softcore porn. He got kicked out.
>Tumblr is where brain cells go to die
>he thinks this isn't true of 4chan as well
Well, technically 4chan does lead to brain cell degradation now. The only option is pic related.
Its all about the rate of degradation.
Tumblr>>>>>facebook>>twitter>>>normalfags>>>> chin>>>>> +4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>master>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>enlightened
Cmon man, I'm not antagonizing 4chan. But mad Tumblrinas are fundamentally harmless keyboard warriors (unless you're sensitive enough to kill yourself over their shit flinging). I'll take a thousand of those over a handful closet pedos, wannabe Hitlers and 2nd amendment fanatics.
No. The difference between /pol/ and tumblr is that the media, and by extention culture, is taking tumblr seriously and in some cases even basing its decisions on its userbase.
/pol/ consists of a vocal minority that's been around much longer than the Internet, and it's not gonna get any bigger any time soon.
Between the two, /pol/ is far less harmful.
>Rightwinged Militant racist asstards with a hard on for hitler
>Leftwinged facist neo-racist buttshits with a hard on for marx
Why are people acting like there's any notable difference? They're the same breed with a different flavor. Both are equally/or neither likely to lynch you and whine about how the world is. Your chances are about the same.
/pol/ is angry young males from 10-25 who shitpost to release their anger. They are all from different countries and nobody speaks out.
Tumblr is full of cows that dump burgers in their mouths from the money they get from their parents or ther social security checks and hold no jobs. They have nothing better to do than bitch.
>inb4 /pol/ bitches out too
its completely different
although I'm not a nazi skinhead or natsoc, I can see that /pol/ does think and answer.
Next time a popular television series makes direct references to /pol/ in a positive light I'll concede that both /pol/ and tumblr are equally harmless.
Everyone who watches NuWho on a regular basis knows about tumblr now, whether they had before or not.
>thinking I'm buying the propaganda
I was just saying the propaganda was right there, in a mainstream television series.
I'm not worried about myself--tumblrshit is nonsense--but plebs out there jumped right into that bitchy hugbox specifically because Peter Capaldi said "Tumbolur". That's a fact.
Meanwhile the extremists in /pol/ gains virtually nobody.
>on the surface
What does that even mean? /pol/ is nothing if it can't influence the masses, and unless it uses surface tactics, it won't influence anything. Propaganda is why tumblr is winning.
This is a SOCIAL justice war.
Man when was the last time we got a PG movie that actually required parental guidance? Even PG-13 movies never reached the level of some PG rated movies during the 70s and 80s did.
I used to work at a Cedar Fair park, which get big conversions to Halloween haunts in October. We explicitly tell parents it's probably going to be too intense for kids under thirteen. This information is inescapable, even for people that don't read the giant fucking signs on the way in.
And still, they bring their little kids in, they get terrified, and the parents go through the park yelling at us not to scare the kids.
Which makes me actively scare the fuck out of the kids, as long as they're not toddlers, so they won't come back next year.
I wouldn't think I'd have to state my reasons. Tumblrinas and Tumblr-styled politics are a fad that'll die quicker than Justin Beiber jokes. People grow out of it.
Like what. Wew. Some people are offended about words on the internet, and sometimes, people decide to stop saying those words. This isn't new.
>know several professors who toed the goddamn line exactly until they got tenure
>then proceeded to shit all over what the school wanted them to say and actually started teaching what they knew
> it's still going on
> this is what successful b8 feels like
Classical liberals have always supported the right and freedom to own guns (Or atleast independence from government to dispose them), as those championing the guillotine would attest. The first thing the liberals did in the french revolution was secure the barracks and guns of the bastille in Paris. It's only American neolib nuts that don't want you to have guns.
>Y-you've got to steak siiiides! Be on the RIGHT side of history!
It's not about being a "centralist" but subscribing to one or over any ideology over another and giving into false dilemmas due to predefined prepositions. Red and blue aren't opposites, and conforming yourself by whatevers trendy and is just intellectually lazy.
I'm not being a centralist, just a realist. Both sides just want to fuck the world over and make it "there way" but only through their narrow lense.
I will give you that in Europe, the Anti-Immigrant thugs and frenzies tend to do far more damage thus far than the immigrants themselves who are allowed in with barbaric customs because the Pro-Immigration supporters enable them.
The concern over that shouldn't even be clashes on borders or violence, but the politico-economic crisis it will bring. People want democracy and democracy demands education. What are they going to do when all those millions of immigrants become voting citizens and side with the very same parties that would've kicked them out, just because of similar positions and a desire to oppress woman and gay people?
I don't understand how in this day and age people don't see the danger of seeing things in black-white ideological lines.
So many LGBT people have assaulted you or feminist cops have shot poor citizens? You keep talking about propaganda and "that horrible tumblrshit" but the reality is, that doesn't really affect anything that people give a shit about.
Tell me what exactly this "propaganda" actually mobilizes, besides movies and cartoons?
Illegally shooting random people in the streets only hurts a group's reputation. It turns more people against a group than whatever followers it might bring. It's an ineffective approach that ultimately backfires, fortifying the opposite side and makes it look even better, whether it's right or not because hey, at least it's not the extremists.
And yes, people are giving a shit about what they watch on TV. Normies aren't smart and are easily influenced by example.
Socialism as an economic theory/of governance shouldn't be conflated with the engaging western ideals of tolerance.
But honestly what the fuck even are sjw?
Does anyone that's actually in politics or matters ever use the term "sjw"? It's just a meaningless boogyman down here for people to get upset at cartoons about, and some college campuses to whine over. Case in point:
Some people want to make sure they stay meaningless boogeymen, and it's safe to consider that Anita Sarkeesian speaking at the UN could be an early precursor to further, more influential actions by those boogeymen.
This isn't to say that the UN gave a fuck, but they did give her a chance, and she won't be the only ladder climber. All it'll take is one group climbing high enough to make a difference and SJWs won't be a meaningless boogeyman anymore.
You didn't really answer my question. What is this "influence" and "approach" really doing in terms of any sort of utility?
When /pol/-minded turds congregate, you get the KKK, White Nationalist parties, Neo-Nazi rallys. There's a strong anti-immigration movement going on with enough people at the borders to terrify refugees because of the assaults and intimidation and violence they use. I'm not talking about tumblry whiny "OMG this mean tweet triggered me they're sending death threads I'm a VICTIM" reaction, I mean genuine fear because mobs appear at train stations and borders to totally keep immigrants out. Right here in the states there's a mad man saying he wants to form a strike force to crash into peoples homes and throw illegal immigrants out and build a giant wall, and everything he speaks about is pure facism.
That's the power of the right's rhetoric right now. What has this liberal indoctrination and "Influence" mobilized that's nearly as dangerous?
No one outside the internet knows who that sleazy con-woman is. Absolutely no politician has ever so much as heard of her. Nor do they care about "Gamer gate".
That's why the whining is so pathetic in the end.
>but they did give her a chance
One of their womens rights committees gave her a chance and it ended miserably and embarrassingly for her. She's a harmless nutjob.
>All it'll take is one group climbing high enough to make a difference and SJWs won't be a meaningless boogeyman anymore.
I don't see this ever happening. Anita made a laughing stock of herself going to the UN, and a minor part of the UN at that. Nobody with her kind of ideals will ever go far, anymore than someone claiming to be a neo-nazi.
>Lubrals are good bois dey dinnut do nuffin!
You cannot get away with this kind of bullshit while remaining ignorant of how militant left-leaning assholes are.
When sjw environmental nutjobs spit on police and the graves of Paris victims like this they have no room to talk.
Yeah, you should really be worried the other way. In most European states right-winged new and dangerous fringe populist parties are springing up everywhere, they're so frenzied they're starting to displace the "status quo" less extreme right wingers.
There's a tiny fringe of the left popping up too, but the establishment socialist democrats have got them on lock. The thing we really have to fer is they lose power, the crazies will basically get pissed off, see the parties representing them as outdated and too partisan for their tastes and than we'll a shitload of left-versions of the Tea Party popping up everywhere.
We live in some interesting times.
I had this long speech prepared but >>77841649 just made the point much more effectively.
The far left isn't exactly sinless, and the fact is they want to turn the scales around, rather than even them out.
They want equality as much as any neo-Nazi, and I cannot with good conscience respect that.
Note I'm not talking about people who actually want equal rights. I'm talking about the assholes who pretend to, and how fucking angry they're getting.
I'm guessing none of those kids ever saw Bambi or the Land Before Time.
Besides since when is crying about a sad story a bad thing? Kids need to learn that bad things happen and that they makes you sad. Cartoons don't have to all be about a life better on all accounts, kids don't fucking need escapism.
Although this reminds me of watching La Bamba as a kid. I cried so much that my mom recorded over it. Thing is I loved the movie.
The issue isn't that they "pretend" to want "equal rights" or anything, just that they don't know what they really want.
Most people today that (the ones you refer to atleast) claim they want equality, don't really want it in the classical definition of Rousseau and Locke that western civilization has followed for 3 centuries. They mean something radically different, an "Equality" for themselves and distance from others. They don't even realize that when they say things like wanting "Multiculturalism", they really want Neocolonialism and cultural hegemony. When they say they want "Tolerance", they really want solidarity and the right for their ignorance and separation from other cultures/ethnicity to be tolerated.
If they really wanted equality they wouldn't treat muslims and minorities with an air of condescension and help them as if it's some special honor to be uplifted by the whiteman, while effectively overlooking their faults, infantalizing them in the most ironic of ways. It's effectively a 21st century version of "White Mans Burden."
You know about Australia, right? The country of former convicts, filled to the brim with deadly animals and plants...
and they censor every implied form of violence.
>I just think socialism/communism has a lot more merit based on what I read from socialists on /leftypol/
There is your problem
That's like saying that nazism has more merits based on what you read on /pol/
It's a common thing to have a bunch of dickhead chavs sneak into peaceful protests and smash everything. Also it always happens when there's a critical state decision pending.... hmm...
There's footage of some of these guys wrecking shit in my country, the police "caught" them after the news picked up on all the riot. Turns out these guys were released a block away and were chatting with the cops.
You can tell which ones are real protesters by which end of the stick the cops are beating them with.
I do lean toward the status quo side of things. This is good to know though. Didn't realize you guys were dealing with such bullshit aside from eastern Europe. How many states and groups are we talking?
You know how at the beginning of the 20th century radical new ideas, extreme parties, dictatorships and basically shitty facist goverments sprung up everywhere?
We're basically verging towards that and repeating the previous century. It has people on all sides terrified, and refugees have nearly become our Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
The countries that had the most lenient (and dumbest) immigration policies are the ones that are turning to the far right. It's like human beings are incapable of doing things with a bit of sense, so they hop from one extreme to the other.
These guys don't come with the rest of the protesters, they approach the protest from other streets with their faces covered and you don't know they're there until they start wrecking stuff.
Pretty much literally every country in Europe has an emerging far-right.
Nah m8. I hate antifas as much as the next guy but the worst they do is try to stifle freedom of speech tag a couple of walls. Neo-nazis in large groups (as found in football stadiums) cause physical harm much more often.
>These guys don't come with the rest of the protesters, they approach the protest from other streets with their faces covered and you don't know they're there until they start wrecking stuff.
That hasn't been my experience. They tend to hide among the protesters from the start in large enough gatherings.
It's the politcal wave phenomenon. Every time the status quo moves to one side of the spectrum it will soon return and wash over to the other, barely stirring up the middle in the process.
But it was obvious that dumb immigration policies would lead to a violent reaction, so obvious that politicians are taken completely by surprise.
If anything, the world ending conflicts are about to begin over Greece. Every single month it's nearly about to default and people are just waiting for it to fall into anarchy because the country cannot even finance it's own government.
If WW3 comes around it'll probably be over some gay economics bullshit.
I like CGI but I would really love a return to the 2D artstyle which will not be made by the Japanese
(I do like Japanese animation, though.) and probably be a musical.
>The countries that had the most lenient (and dumbest) immigration policies are the ones that are turning to the far right.
This is because the government =/= the governed. Isn't the point of democratic reality that a state should represent it's peoples interests and decisions? Well what exactly was so democratic about Angela Merkel (Chancellor of Germany) to let millions of foreigners in with full aid provided? They're crowding up the streets, overpopulating small towns and just kind of pouring in. When did the citizens consent to that? Obviously it's in the governments economic interests to do this (Easy new labor force and supply of new citizens=manpower), but when did a political reality become consent?
The right ring parties are forming because people are pissed off that their governments decided to do things they never asked for or agreed with.
>film just came out
>clickbait title used to spark out rage
>"even most critics noted in their reviews that the movie is very emotional" this is cleary a promotion, also it doesn't give any links.
>other films have had a similar reaction and their was no reaction over them (HTTYD2, Toy Story 3)
I am samefagging, but I feel like this thread has gone off the rails and we should focus on the fact that this is a corporate attempt to promote a movie through contraversy
None of those policies are new though. I can understand the politicians' confusion considering those policies have been in place since 20 years (1996 for Schengen applying to whole EU, asylum policies have been the same for even longer) and everyone seemed peachy about it until more recent socio-economical events.
>Neo-nazis in large groups (as found in football stadiums) cause physical harm much more often.
This. On a regular basis there are neo-nazis causing damage and actual deaths in soccer matches. People actually gunning each other down or knifing each other in the guts. These guys are actually out there and they're pretty fucking scary. Thinking that Tumblrinas are more of a concern is tinfoil hat tier idiocy.
>The right ring parties are forming because
The right wing parties are forming for the exact same reason why other parties have formed and succeeded. Parties always leverage on the public to get votes in, but this doesn't equal getting shit done. That's a money concern, and the common folk probably have no idea of the mechanics underneath.
The fringe theory is that since obbbbviously tumblrinas and sjws control the media they're somehow much more deceptive and worse than nazis knifing people.
Because of them and their evvvil indoctrination we get shit like...gay marriage being legalized? Well I'm sure they could fill in the gaps.
I remember when my sister watched My Girl was was completely destroyed. Parents are too sensitive these days and feel like they need to make their kids happy 24/7. It's why we have these collages having problems with "Trigger Warnings", these kids just weren't allowed to experience things other than safety.
As a kid, My Girl triggered me because the kid died to bees. As a kid who was already affraid of bees (because of sneakily catching a horror film featuring bees once), it didn't help.
I'm actually gonna have to follow politics now. It's bad enough that DC basically rekindled the Cold War.
I knew about Paris nearly sparking another war, and from what little I know, France's bombing run effectively put a stop to that. But I had no idea about these parties popping up like this.
>those balls have been snipped off
How do you figure?
Do you really think something like Persepolis would have worked if it was made in Japan or the US?
Fuck even Ronal the Barbarian was more racy than anything Americans aim towards kids.
The French even have the balls to make feature-lenght non-talking animated movies like Minuscule.
>I knew about Paris nearly sparking another war, and from what little I know, France's bombing run effectively put a stop to that.
How do you figure? That's a war, m8. Bombing a foreign country's soil without its accord is a war, no ifs, no buts, no coconuts.
The parties aren't exactly popping up, they were never not there (FN in France made it to the second round of the presidential election in 1995 for instance), they're just gaining more steam. Even newer parties are mostly rebrandings of older extreme right parties.
>I knew about Paris nearly sparking another war, and from what little I know, France's bombing run effectively put a stop to that
You've got it the other way around.
The Paris attacks were retaliation against bombings against ISIS forces in Syria and Yemen.
This isn't anything new. Isis, the Refugee crisis, it's basically all because Western countries (Like America, especially America) shook up and destabilized the middle east. Everytime they took down a regime, they basically ignored the fact that those dictatorships were acting as walls of sorts between countries keeping the Middle East in gridlock. That's why you'd never see this sort of shit. But the puppet-governments the US has over their now really aren't equipped to deal with extremists and radical groups so they quickly get taken over and wars break out all over the place.
It's like if in a household (The middle east) you had an abusive father (Regime) with troublesome children, he abuses them and they keep in line. You don't care at first, but that dad throws a rock through your window. You go in, take out the dad and put in a babysitter whose not 'as' abusive but cannot handle the kids or keep them in line now. The lack of oppressive abuse means they're going to fight amongst each other a lot.
Eventually the fighting gets so bad someone cannot take it so they run over to try to live in one of their neighbors places.
Experts weren't kidding when they said 9/11 would just be the start of a much much larger, more complex generational problem that even our grandkids will be facing. Today the idea that liberal democracy and global capitalism can thrive with a system that frequently thwarts itself under the weight of it's own contradictions and exploitations.
The war was always going to be some western coalition against some Syrian goatfuckers, I don't see who would have sided with ISIS enough to make it a full-fledged world war.
I'm genuinely curious, how would that work?
But than that TOO will become an Ad. That discussion itself! It's like the borg, you'll only be helping it evolve by feeding and paying attention to it.
If you already realize it the best thing to do is ignore it.
>"Feminists help men too" meme
>Guy offs himself on the day they would have talked about male suicide rates after pressure from feminist groups
What a life
It's older than that. 9/11 wasn't the start, it was a very notable event in a much longer story.
Although I agree 2000s Americans did the last crucial bit of badly planned shit-stirring that set fire to the keg.
Also Saddam and Gaddhafi hadn't thrown shit at any western windows in 20 years, these wars weren't retaliative at all.
Right now the middle east is a clusterfuck. There are several civil wars going on and all the rich 'peaceful' countries are picking favorites, taking sides and it's downright medieval.
Did you know Turkey is kind of a dick, a HUGE dick? They just accepted a 3 billion dollar deal from the UN to intercept and relocate refugees. But they're also bombing Kurds. They claim to be fighting Isis ("Officially") but they spend far more of their manpower and efforts fighting Kurds- who are at war and seriously trying to fight ISIS, as a matter of survival and not just policy. On top of all of this, it's the destabilization by all these wars and groups like ISIS, that are creating the necessity of Refugees in the first place. Turkey has created a nightmarish sociopolitical situation through deceptive practice and is now profiting off the excess and fallout of it's own consequences. Also, most of the "relocation" for those refugees it got paid for? Those will be mostly code for sweatshops and labor camps to profit off human lives further.
Just like any western country would. This is what politics look like today.
It started in the Cold War.
Shitload of proxy wars between the USSR and the US put a shitload of "favorable" dictators in charge. That's why most militant groups throughout the ME are using cold-era war tech, they were armed and funded by us decades ago and are just recycling whatever scraps they have left.
>Did it all really start with fucking Bush Sr. and Saddam?
Nope, way, way before that.
Think British colonization, then creation of Israel under British rule, then the (orchestrated) Iranian Islamic Revolution, then cold war shenanigans impacting (notably, but not only) Afghanistan.
There's also always been a lot of trading between the West and the Middle East, which impacts geopolitics a lot. Westerners notably helped oppressive and/or dangerous regimes to stay stable. You can for instance name Saudi Arabia, a great provider of money and weapons to Islamic extremists.
Of course it's also not as simple as "woe is the arab, blame whitey", Islam itself has a lot of issues.
One of the things that I love about history is how often it can be read like Literature. Everything kind of leads into the next and it's really fascinating. The Middle Age's spiritual and providential conflicts gave rise to new ideas which lead to mercantilism and the enlightenment. Enlightenment ideals gave rise to nation states, industrial revolutions through science, a slow rising globalization. This lead to colonialism. Some people saw these trends and conceived of communist ideology as a way towards a different trend in history. Colonialism reached it's head at Hitler's demise, when he tried to 'colonize' all of europe. The Communist project conflicted with capitalist reality for the next half century propping up neocolonialism and globalism, this leading to the conflicts in the middle east and carrying on today.
The wars of the Spartans against the Persians, the Crusaders against the Muslims, the Europeans against the Baltic states have cycled in different eras and ideological conflicts leading us all the way to where we are today.
It's almost poetic in a way.
A lot of the arcs seem kind of repetitive once you study them. For example the situation with the European Union is pretty much that of France 200+ years ago, but replace France with Germany and starving peasants/General Assembly with Syrian Refugees.
I dabbled in Japanese history, and man it's fucking epic. The battle in the Last Samurai? That actually happened (obviously not in the same way) and the samurai involved averaged 3:1 kills. All the badass shit on honor and seppuku, it really happened and it influenced politics. People fighting on ships to save the Emperor and a legendary sword lost at sea as a result. Backstabbing and poisoning and GoT tier intrigue. Giant enemy crabs. It's legitimately great, much better than the literature.
I don't really see it.
I doubt something like the French Revolution is coming to the EU. Literally starving though has led to revolutions all the time (most recently in Egypt).
Not to say there isn't a reaction to the Syrian refugees, but I don't think it's comparable, neither in who is angry, how many people are angry, or how angry they are.
Not that I wouldn't like a change in EU policies, but I don't see it.
>I haven't heard of this film
Bloody hell. think that just goes to show this had terrible, if non existent marketing. It's a damn Pixar film and no one seems to really know about it
I remember hiding my face behind my hands during the climax scene in Tarzan because I thought the music and dramatic visuals were too scary. My mom told me to stop and watch the movie cause there was nothing to be afraid of and Tarzan was going to save everyone.
She was right.
I don't get the outrage at every fucking helicopter parent trying to protect their hellspawn at all cost.
Those morons have always been a thing.We just ddidn't hand them a megaphone.
Seriously, this is the same year Inside Out was released.
A movie about the positive value of negative emotions and nostalgia as a coping mechanism.
A movie that is like 50% crying, disorientation and despair with some bitter truths about forgetting sprinkled on.
If anything the success of that movie means a lot more than someone getting upset over a bad movie for whatever reason.
There will always be morons of some new flavor. Deal with it.
More. The word you're looking for is more, not less. That sentence states that you are bewildered at how anyone can drop their standard of mentioned gender below that line.
>parents forcing their kids to work from an early age, letting them grow up in fields or dumping them on slaves/servants/nannies since ancient times
>21st century parents
I'd say the practice of parents actually giving a damn about their kids and spending time with them is fairly recent.
Adults cry do to emotional impact
Children cry because they're scared.
If you can't understand why a happy movie meant for children spooking them is a negative trait, you are an idiot.
m8 European animation is still going strong. No balls have been snipped off. I doubt they would be.
There's a movie called the Suicide Shop that came out a couple years ago that has a striptease segment. Done by a teenager. While her brother and his friends watch.
That's one PG-13 example I can think of at the top of my head right away.
And I know for a fact that there's at least one animated movie being made about World War 1 of all things.
DON'T LOSE YOUR WAY,
WITH EACH PASSING DAY.
YOU'VE COME SO FAR,
DON'T THROW IT AWAY.
I am in support of child-oriented museum exhibits with interactive elements that the children can move and touch, but in ALL cases these things require the parent to be engaged alongside the child.
I try to be understanding about cases where a parent has to work and must therefore leave their children in situations with minimal guidance and discipline. Schools and daycares typically have to fill this function for most working parents. But when I go someplace with children and can see the parent fucking off in the corner on their phone while the children run amok in places where children should absolutely not be allowed to run amok, that really makes me angry.
>doesn't believe dinosaurs and humans co-existed
get this hothead out of here
hmm this just shot up to the top of my "must watch" list
I grew up for 18 years in a suburb. It's absolutely as sheltered, uncultured, and terrible as anyone says. It's no joke, and nobody joking about these places is "edgy" at all. In fact, soon, it won't even be funny at all anymore, because it'd be like saying "I BREATHE AIR!" as a punchline.
This isn't exclusive to cartoons, or even family movies. I watched the extremely vulgar, dramatized, but shockingly accurate "Steve Jobs" movie (depicting how much of an ass he was to Wozniak and his crew, despite ending up being a business genius.) There was some mother in the theater with her preteen daughter, struggling to explain the plots of the movie and depicted history. This was also at about fucking 10:30 PM. This would have been inoffensive if I couldn't hear it from 5 rows of seats away.
This reminds me of some story where all exceptional individuals who were strong, pretty, talented, or smart, were intentionally gimped or crippled by the government, because of their very backwards interpretation of "equality." The one where the really hot guy has to wear the clown nose, which the author was obviously unaware was a fetish.
These parents are the reason kids grow up and take liberal arts degrees and bitch about their safe spaces
I (regrettably) saw Lucy in the theater. It was packed, and some idiot parents brought their young kid to the movie and sat him right next to me. He was too young to understand shutting up and made loud comments throughout the film.
Though, the worst part was that after the movie the parents talked to the kid like they'd just brought him to see some mind-expanding sci-fi masterpiece.
I just want to know what happened to the family Spot goes with. When they come down and meet Arlo and Spot its mom, dad, a daughter, and a son. When they leave son has disappeared. Is Arlo just hallucinating again?
He didn't get to act in that movie; he was just there for exposition. Using some pseudo-science claptrap, the director turned the whole movie into a mouthpiece for his ideas about the human condition. And to talk to your kid like the "we don't use 100% of our brains" thing is anything more than an urban legend is just... ugh.
A lot of people use controversy to sell stuff. That's not new. People are drawn to drama. "What's everyone talking about? I have to see this for myself." People don't like being left out.
>implying anyone who regularly posts on /co/ actually has the drive to make anything creative beyond a concept
>implying that the audience climate of today is somehow worse than years off where you could get away with even less shit cause everything had to meet a product selling quota if it was targeted for kids
>implying that the major concensus will change just because a couple of theoretical pieces of media will somehow catalyst this change and not at the very least receive a moderate to small cult following like any non-major studio gem in the past 60+ years of the animation industry
I forget sometimes how delusional this place can be
>implying anyone who regularly posts on /co/ actually has the drive to make anything creative beyond a concept
All boards have that one person who spews this old shit about them, as if they know better than the Dobson-level army of straw men they're pulling out of their ass.
>mfw they wrote an article a week ago about liberal students are all fascists
>mfw the article pretended that Godwin's Law isn't a thing
>mfw the guy who wrote the article was a former Communist turned Libertarian who's written several articles that are basically "Vladimir Putin literally did nothing wrong, and if you disagree then you hate freedom of speech"
>mfw I tried to point that out in the comment section, but somehow it didn't pass moderation
I'm no fan of SJWs, but these people need to get some perspective
>Most people today that (the ones you refer to atleast) claim they want equality, don't really want it in the classical definition of Rousseau and Locke that western civilization has followed for 3 centuries
SJWs are actually the natural progression of the models of freedom practiced by western civilization, ultimately heirs to Locke - freedom as freedom from "toxic" elements and violence.
Trauma - inducing cartoons outnumber and outsell "happy time" cartoons. All of Disney's "classics" have trauma.
Also: Lego only managed to avoid trauma by virtue of the MCs being made of plastic bricks. Emmet breaks into pieces and is gored by spikes during his fall, at one point he uses his neck as an axel, quite frankly, the film is full of nightmare fuel offset entirely by the fact that the characters are all Lego blocks.
MY friend worked at a daycare place almost got fired over getting into a fight with some bitch.
Dumb bitch would drop off her kid from opening to well past closing (sometimes forcing the staff to wait an extra hour for her to get her kid).
Dumb bitch didn't work, mooched off rich husband and spent all day doing stupid shit with girlfriends while posting it on facebook.
Friend confronts dumb bitch over the fact that this isn't a kid kennel, and she needs to take responsibility for her kid.
Lady flips the fuck out over the fact that "poor white trash" have no right to tell her how to live her life, only to take care of her kid as that's what they get paid for.
They get in a big argument ending with the rich bitch slapping my friend.
Management was pissed and suspended friend while they investigated everything.
In the end the management forced both parents to come in to talk about all this shit. Apparently the husband was fucking pissed at his wife after hearing about all this shit. HE thought she was dropping the kid off for a few hours while she ran errands, not just stashing the kid so she could have a good time.
Last we heard he was getting a divorce. (My friend kept her job.)
I guess what I'm getting at is that some people only give a shit about themselves. Some people to this day still consider kids as pets at best, and they deserve a swift ass kicking.
I bet she read a bad description from a stupid recensent.
Oh fairy tale, nice kids movie
There's always this weird idea that the most hardcore sjws are from outside the affected group. Like sure, a portion of them are acting out of x-guilt, but there's plenty from within the group also.
He is right to some extent. As a child I was unable to understand when people were crying because they were happy or over seeing something great. For a child, crying means either sadness or fear. But plenty of kids were destroyed by The Lion King and Bambi, and still look back at those movies fondly.
As an adult I tear up a lot more doing sad and/or beautiful moments, but it's the good kind of crying. I don't really think a lot of children has a concept of 'good crying'. But I guess that's what Inside Out Was about.
Who wants gifs of the drugs scene in question?
A university professor is in the news because of his "controversial" dismissal of the complaints of a boy at a religious college who took offense at a lecture containing the concept of "love", something that he believes does not exist.
Just for context.
I feel like these would be a lot less horrifying in 2D.
FUCK YEAH OMSI!
I'm so salty about the change in management that occurred circa 2008-2009 that resulted in a lot of staff leaving as the new board procedurally fucked everything up.
>Adults cry do to emotional impact
>Children cry because they're scared.
This might be the most idiotic statement I've read on here in months.
>Between the two, /pol/ is far less harmful.
This! The mainstream media will never take /pol/'s bullshit, yet they will take the retarded SJW's bullshit. The bullshit they will take is what makes them more harmful.
>Children were crying and leaving the theater
You know, when I was a kid I had to leave the room whenever Mufasa died in the Lion King and whenever the bear showed up in Fox & the Hound. Mufasa's death was just too sad and I thought the bear was too scary. But I still absolutely adored both of those movies.
The Lego Movie legit made me cry though. As much of a cliche message as it is, the whole "you are special" aspect of it just felt so much more genuine than any media I've seen in a long time.
No wonder why kids are using drugs.
Cartoons keep on telling them to used drugs.
Nobody's giving her a free pass. But when you claim that women are subhuman while describing a situation in which the man killed her and the kid, you're going to get called retarded.
Oh this is like a reverse psychology.
>JIMMY! Do your drugs!
>No, Mom! I going straight!
>YOU ARE A FAGGOT! And liek to suck dick like your father
>MY FATHER LEFT YOU!
>That is the point!
>Children are incapable of crying over anything other than fear
So kids don't cry because they're sad or hungry or didn't get that thing they wanted? Or is it possible you are speaking fluent arse gravy?
Congratulations! You didn't spend every day of your education learning absolutely nothing because of the urban element acting up in your classrooms!
Congratulations! You probably were actually able to walk home unsupervised from school. No fear of drug pushers, drive bys, or just general big city assholes/crazy homeless bums.
Congratulations! Your biggest problem in life was boredom about having too many of your needs met and getting looked at funny because you crammed your fat, greasy frame into a black trench coat and painted your nails black while living in Hee Haw Hell. Poor fucking baby.
The pterodactyls would probably have scared 6 year old me. It did have a lot of intense 'near death' scenes and the characters are constantly in danger+ features some imagery that could scare small kids.
I wonder if the dinosaurs at one point weren't so cartoony, but it was changed not to scare kids too much. It was never really too frightening because of the style used on the characters.
I kind of liked it. Run of the mill story, but mostly told through the animation and score. Easy to understand for kids, probably more exciting for them than Inside Out.
Better than Brave.
They're more harmful because some shitty news and tv shows will listen to them? Harmful how exactly?
We discussed this earlier and most of you cannot come up with any good reasons besides "Muh media."
But they generally are from outside the affected group. It's EASIER to co-opt a groups problems when you have no stake in it and pay no risk.
A black protester trying to parade against discrimination and corrupt cops ends up getting shot. A white protester might get a fine at most, so there's less turn-away for them to take up a cause they lose nothing by engaging in.
>Recommended for 8 years and over
>People bring their 2-3 year old and complain they were spooked.
There is quite a difference between strict toddler entertainment and family movies. But the trailers were pretty deceptive. It shows the movie will be your typical feels pixar deal, not so much the constant running from death and frightening nature deal.
>They're more harmful because some shitty news and tv shows will listen to them? Harmful how exactly?
If the news constantly shames companies for producing certain content then companies will stop doing it. See the recent Dead or Alive controversy. Did you really need this explained to you? Retard.