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What happened to animation?
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>>77819831
Where'd it go?
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>>77819831
The holy trinity of cartoons has taken over.
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>>77819839
To shit.
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It became illustrated radio.
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It got infested with le tumblr people. We're just going to have to accept it though. No more cool action cartoons. Just things people watch for "mah feels", "mah comfy" and "mah fun".

This is the future you chose /co/.
>Tumblr Falls
>Tumblr Universe
>Tumblr Vs. the Forces of Evil
>Over the Tumblr Wall
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>>77819831
>Where we're going, we won't need eyes.
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>>77819847
It went to the bathroom?
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>>77819844
If you think Over the Garden Wall has the same amount of impact that either SU or GF has, you're delusional and spend too much time on /co/.
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It hasn't gone anywhere, it's just our nature as disgusting basement dwellers to bitch about WHEN I WAS A KID
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>>77819844
>The holy trinity of garbage has taken over.
FTFY
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>>77819855
How do we stop the tumblr menace?
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>>77819885
Then what similarly themed lore cartoon should take it's place in the trinity then?

Steven Universe, Gravity Falls and what?
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>>77819919
Teen Titans Go
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>>77819919
>>77819855
You've forgotten tumblr time.
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>>77819919
Adventure Time, you mong.
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>>77819935
>>77819944
Adventure Time is old news f a m, it doesn't have a place anymore.
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>>77819831
We are in one of the best ages for animation. I'm really proud of it, this kind of thing would never be possible some years ago.
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>>77819961
Neither does GF or SU.
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>>77819968
Fucking how is this the best generation for cartoons. Give me three reasons why.
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>>77819891
Thank you.
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>>77819984
One of the best. Not the best.

You can go back to whatch He-man if you want nolstalgiafag.
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>>77819968
Snail is worst girl.
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>>77819831
It got good
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>>77819984
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>>77819994
It's not one of the best though.
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>>77819831
Star vs is the only one of those shows i actually enjoy watching.
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>>77820012
OK, say three periods of time where it was better, design wise, animation wise and writting wise.
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>>77819984
More and more people are becoming involved in it. We have more aspiring artists, writers and voice actors. We have more and more cartoons being released in all sorts of formats all around the world. People who love cartoons are making cartoons now.

Sure this means more shit, but the amazing thing about this world is, just like with video games and books and movies, is that you can ignore the shit and just watch what you love. If you honestly can't find new shows to love with all this variety then you don't like cartoons. Plain and simple.
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>>77820011
Don't you dare compare Courage and Rocko to Ren and Stimpy you fucking bitch.
While I love most of the shows mentioned in the top panel, Gravity falls has a lot of wasted potential
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>>77820023
The Star vs. finale was crazy, do you think they're going more lorefag now though?

I was not expecting any of that dark shit to go down. Completely out of no where.
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I don't have a problem with the animation, but why do all these shows artstyles just look so rounded and soft? Something about it is just so off putting to how cartoons just started looking the same around this time.
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>>77820051
It's just a style. Cartoons fade in and out of it. Just like how cartoons in the 80s and early 90s had a more stylish, anime-esque quality, and cartoons in the late 90s and 00s had a very dirty and slobby look. It'll pass in time to something else.
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>>77820011
>90s: Actual cartoons
>10s: MUH PLOT
Yeah, we're totally living in a golden age.
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>>77820073
Tumblr won't let it though.
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>>77820096
Hey there 90's Nick
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>>77820096
Why cartoons s can't have plot? You seen like one of those guys whi thinks that animation should be only one thing.
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>>77820051
>>77820096
Perhaps this is more up your alley.
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>>77819855
>fun
>bad
I'm fine with the others as criticism, but come on.
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>>77820113
b/c the art looks good senpai
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>>77820113

Why the fuck does this website think that tumblr is this all-powerful force of youth? It's just a vocal internet subculture of teenagers, not a fucking guild of worlocks in charge of America.

By the time these kids actually get to adulthood, they'll mellow out.
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>>77820011
>Uhh, there are talking animals.
>And they do things animals normally don't do.
They are aware that this literally describes Regular Show, right?
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Reminder that plot and lore in cartoons is nothing new. Go watch Teddy Ruxpin.
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>>77820121
It should only be one thing. Look at SU and GF; it focuses more on lore like some anime or book than on what real cartoons should be.
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>>77820113
You gave tumblr too much power. You look like a defeated Tumblr bitch.

Fuck you.
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>>77820125
The art in that show is both great and dull at the same time, its confusing
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>>77819919
Miraculous lady bug probably.

We'd also need a replacement for Gravity falls while we're at it.
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>>77820113
You're an idiot.
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>>77820148
Teddy Ruxpin never pandered to tumblr though.
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>>77820152
SU has about ten lore episodes though
GF has a fair mix of both.
What's your favorite cartoon, anon?
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What did you guys blame all your problems on before tumblr came to be?
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>>77820183
The Jews.
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>>77820183
Deviantart
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Jesus Christ, this is getting so old. You can't even start a thread anymore without it diverging into an obsessive circlejerk about a goddamn blogging website. It's getting more annoying than the discourse on the actual fucking website. You can hardly discuss a cartoon without someone on /co/ pointing at a black character, shitting their pants, and screaming about an invisible boogeyman.
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>>77820182
Teen Titans Go
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>>77820200
Rebecca Sugar, please leave.
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>>77820165
Seems that will be One Punch Man.
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>>77819831
It dissipated with your childhood.
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>>77820134
You do know that CN is getting ideas directly from tumblr, right?
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>>77820096
>adding 'MUH' makes simething studpid or unecessary
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>>77820202
Only worth watching for Raven, Jinx & Cyborg in my opinion.
>>77820217
OPM isn't a western cartoon
Also
>Wanting OPM to have a cancerous fanbase
Please no, I was already worried enough when they announced the anime
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>>77820168
But it did have interracial relationships. One of the primary characters was even the child of one.
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>>77820011
>Courage
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>>77820225
Like what?

Also, all the current creators there lurked on /co/ for years.
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>>77820200
Blah blah, grave, blah blah, future you chose.
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>>77820225

How so?
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>>77820243
That makes it even worse since this is /co/mblr now.
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>>77820240
I am stating that it will get a cancerous fanbase, not that I want it.

With the lack of new cartoons, I feel that it will attract a new fanbase left from other shows that were cancelled, are on hiatus or ended. It will be the new normie-friendly show.

Saddly we just don't have other new shows that could gatter a massive fanbase in the near future.
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If anything we're in a second Dark Age of Animation. Wait until 10-20 more years until it gets good again.
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>>77819885
You're right. Otgw is actually good
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>>77820283

all i've seen is some a+ genos porn
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>>77820272
>>>/b/
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>>77820286
You think /co/ can save animation from the Dark Age?
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>>77820283
Where is the OPM anime at the moment?
I don't really watch anime adaptations if Manga's I'm reading.
I know it seems that everyone has a hard on for Genos despite probably being the worst part of OPM.
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>>77820272

I actually don't mind the mentality mix. It just winds up creating a less batshit left version of tumblr.
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>>77820314

>Not having a hard on for dedicated robot kouhai
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>>77819885
OtgW is better than both and that's saying something since SU is better than anything in the last 10 years and GF is the only good thing on Disney.
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>>77820243
/co/ is basically a Tumblr parasite latched on 4chan
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>>77820286
The last twenty years had such improviment on the writting and variety of cartoons, that I can't see where this complains comes from.

We are much better on animation and writting than the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's besides some gems, like old Looney Tunes.

The only issue is the lack of 12 principles.
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>>77820341

People who write off OTGW haven't seen it.
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>>77820345
Name one good cartoon from the 2010s.
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>>77820345

B-But anon! There's black characters! Children's TV shows never had racially diverse casts and themes of equality before TUMBLR took over!
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>>77820341
Of course it's better, but it still flopped.
Its impact on the industry compared to AT, GF, or SU is negligible because nobody outside of /co/ watched it.
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>>77819831
Why do Mabel, Connie and Star have beards?
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>>77819831
>OP knew he was shitposting so he started this thread on his phone
>the same old trolling bait and "discussion".
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>>77820368
It's true. Look at Star Wars; now that Disney has it, they're adding a black protagonist for MUH DIVERSITY.
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>>77820344
Nah, /co/ is on a constant war between /pol/ and Tumblr, we are a warzone. That is the reason for why we have these threads every day.

I really don't see much of Tumblr SJW on /co/. Like...which threads right now would you say that are Tumblr?
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>>77820029
THE golden age was the 40s to the 50s, original Looney Toons, early Disney shorts, Tom and Jerry, Woody Woodpecker, Droopy.
The 90s. Animaniacs, Gargoyles (better at muh lore than anything nowadays), BTAS, Samurai Jack, Dexters Lab, PPG, Futurama, etc. all the way to the early 00s with JLU, Duck Dodgers, Megas XLR.

Right now we have some jewels but we're mostly in a mediocre era. You can point a couple of jewels lost on that sea of bland (GF, the early seasons of the show that must not be named, Symbionic Titan, Motorcity, Tron, Batman Brave and the Bold, Mistery Inc, maybe SU if it delivers on what it's setting up), but so can the eighties(Thundercats, He-man, GI Joe, Silverhawks, Bionic Six) and even the 50s/60s/70s, generally considered the dark ages had a few good ones (og Scooby Doo, Atom Ant, Flintstones, Peanuts TV specials)
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If you hate the current state of animation so much why don't you get into the industry yourself and make it better.

Before all the autists start crying this isn't about deflecting criticism. It's a legitimate question.
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>>77820399
The problem was the mid-2000's when all the networks went stupid for a couple years. The industry got set back a while so things aren't as good quality wise.
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>>77820345
50s and 60s animation can be pretty cool, though. Since it was handdrawn, it was a lot more fluid.
Not /co/ related, but the first Astro Boy anime still looks aesthetically pleasing to me.
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>>77820401

That's what I'm doing.
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>>77820401
Because it would just be rejected for not appealing to tumblr.
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>>77820446
Will your animation get GF and SU BTFO?
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>>77820457
What would you like to do?
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>>77820341
I stopped watching after the potatoes and molasses song.
Is it really worth continuing?
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>>77820469

If I get far enough in the industry to make my own show, who knows? I don't really care about trying to vilify /co/'s vendetta or tumblr's obsession with inclusion. I just want to create things.
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>>77820486
Nope. The rest is tumblr trash.
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>>77820469
Rebecca Sugar got BTFO and had to use a more modern, kid friendly art style too. She didn't have the current art style in mind. Have you seen the pilot?
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>>77820509
But that's wrong. You're supposed to save animation from tumblr anon.
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>>77820531
Except for the fact that the artstyle change was completely Rebecca's idea. No executive meddling, no parent test run; it was all on Sugar.
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>>77820011
Here is your reply.
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>>77820531
I'm still pissed that they changed styles.
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>>77820579
>m-m-m-MUH 90's and MUH CHILDHOOD
Fuck off.
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>>77820539

My son, if you try to create things just to spite people you don't like, you're going to create a shallow product. I mean, I suppose that this rule doesn't truly apply to sattire, but that isn't really a booming genre in animated series.
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>>77820562
I find it hard to believe she pulled a complete 180 without any external pressure. Gonna need some proof f a m.

I'm 100% sure CN didn't like the initial art style and opted for her to follow in Adventure Time's simply artstyle.
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Steven's Universe Development Short had really good animation but they ended up going with the default flash look, probably because it's cheaper.
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>>77820610
simple*

If anything, blame Pendleton Ward for starting the craze.

>>77820615
They said it needed to be more simple so that they could hire multiple artists to work on episodes. They have a shit ton of artists. They each have probably 5-7 episodes under their belts.
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>>77820531
>>77820610
I'm still salty the designs were changed so much.
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Everything is Tumblr,
Everything is shit when you're part of a meme...
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>>77820482
To create a show where a guy goes into different tumblr shows and beats up the MCs.
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>>77820644
I wish they chose a Pearl without a giant nose
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We let women in.
Women ruin everything.
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>>77819855
Why bout teen tumblr go?
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For the uninformed


>What is a "Tumblr" cartoon?

-amateurish art direction, usually looking like flat notebook doodles and tries to hard to pass off the lack of skill as "charming" (AT, RS, Sanjay and Craig, Breadwinners, Gravity Falls, OtGW, Long Live the Royals, Bee and Puppycat, Bravest Warriors, Star and the Forces of Evil, Clarence)
-attempts at idiosyncratic and "natural" dialogue that ends up sounding robotic. Usually has a lot of modern or made-up slang. "Man, this day was total butt. We needs to go get out munchichies on, ya' know what I'm saying?" (AT, RS, GF, Steven Universe, SaC, BW, CH, OtGW, Star)
-a romance plot that's taken seriously and is also the plot of a lot of episodes. The male is a beta wimp and the girl is a "laid-back" character (AT, RS, SU, GF, SaC, BWarriors, BaP).
-a lot music, usually either a freestyle serenade or pixeltune shit (AT, RS, GF, Clarence, SU, SaC, BW, CH, BWarriors, Manly, Star)
-voice actors that sound like they picked random people from the street (all of them)
-fake 80s montages (RS, SaC, BW, Star, SU)
-limited amount of expressions, most of them being ":-T" (all of them)
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>>77820658
>Implying Rebecca Sugar isn't one of the best children cartoon writers of this decade

She made Adventure Time good. Their lore department is shitting themselves without her.
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Teen Titans Go! Is cancelled
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>>77820691
>sugarfags
Fuck off.
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Don't forget to watch my new show, Super Noobs on Cartoon Network! If you were a fan of my previous work as the creator of Johnny Test, this is defintley an adventure you dont want to miss!
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>>77820610
See here
>>77820632
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>>77820708
Fuck off bitch I'm jtfags favorite now
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>>77820687
You started off strong then just nitpicked.
But a "tumblr" cartoon will always just be something with a trace of progression or female lead or something that people dislike and brand to make other people stay away. I bet Hey Arnold nowadays would've been a tumblr cartoon since every episode had some sappy message of equality and there were a lot of feels moments. Shit, they even had an entire episode teaching about Judaism.
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>>77820687
Do you do anything else in your day other than bitch about le tumblr boogieman and fap to EEnE reruns?
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>>77820691
Rebecca Sugar didn't really introduce lore
In fact, SU is severely lacking in lore
all we have so far is that the gems were here a long time ago and other gems exist elsewhere
that's it
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>>77820722
uh, anon..
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>>77819831
i don't know mate
why is gravity falls and OTGW with that other shit?
Also we have gumball and wonder over yonder.
So don't worry
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>>77819885
Buttmad tumblrtard detected.
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>>77820656
A Pearl without a giant nose is no Pearl at all.
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>>77820735
>SU is severely lacking in lore

come on f a m, you can't really believe that. I don't want to put effort into a bait post

>>77820766
She'd be horrifying in real life
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>>77820742
What the fuck?
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>>77819831
Why are threads like these allowed to fester when all they do is encourage shitposting and the like?
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>>77820816
Because fuck you
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>>77820784
>She'd be horrifying in real life
So would a lot of cartoon, anime and video game characters.
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>>77819831
Diversity happened.
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>>77820183
Gaia, scene kids. Which to be fair, is roughly Tumblr with a change of paint.
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>>77819831
Why don't you make a blog and cry about it :^)
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>What happened to animation?

Are you talking about the West...?
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>>77820971
...or the East?
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>>77820989
>tfw I can draw better than people who go to the London Slade School of Fine Art

wew lad
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>muh action cartoons

I'm sorry, but this makes you look infantile.
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>Saitama as a woman

cut that shit out
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>>77820486
kinda
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>>77820051
Cal arts style they teach them to animate storyboards nothing else
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>>77820486
It got pretty interesting by the end, but they really made Greg overstated.
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>>77821072
>taking a highground
Kek. Hypocrisy is staggering.
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>>77819831
Fixed.

Things just became cheap was all.
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>>77819831
The people who watched it in their youth are now making it.

Blame He-Man and She-Ra, Muppet babies and Denver the last Dinosaur. Blame the old network executives for forbidding ongoing plots and mandating toy tie-ins.
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>>77821072
You can't ignore all the great past action cartoons, all the great action cartoons that got cancelled in recent years, or all the great action cartoon projects we might not get to see.
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>>77819891
>>77819991
Or maybe you being a disgusting basement dweller who browses tumblr made you have shit taste.
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>>77821199
>action cartoons
>ever great
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>>77820152
>It should only be one thing.
You're part of the reason why we don't have good cartoons for older age groups.
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>>77820323
Yes, but it makes it a more shitty version of /co/.
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>>77821219
Batman:TAS was a masterpiece.
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>>77821219
You didn't like Batman B&B or EMH? Not even Justice League or Samurai Jack?
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>>77820971
>western animation got fucked over by progressive art being prioritized over the basic art fundamentals and realistic drawing, thus leading to a industry where there people are willing to animate but don't know anything about drawing.
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>>77819855
I can see how you'd compare Steven Universe and Star Vs the forces of evil to tumblr, but Gravity Falls? There's nothing in Gravity Falls that even suggests Alex Hirsch is an SJW. Idk about over the garden wall because I've never seen it.
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>>77821219
This man is not even providing proof to why action cartoons are bad. He has less credability then someone telling you jews are from space
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>>77820971
Question: Has digital production lowered costs eased availability so much it killed animation skill?
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>>77821193
I'm so glad I didn't have to grow up in the 60's or 70's
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>>77821312
>Muh Ludwig Von Drake.
>Muh Lupin III.
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>>77821133
Most of SU's crew went to SVA
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Jesus Christ /co/, you're obsessed with tumblr the same way /tv/ is obsessed with reddit. Take it down a notch, yeah?
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>>77821352
but muh hatefu
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>>77821298
It's the few autistic SU fans that browse this board going in full sperg mode. Notice that, out of all the accused cartoon, only SU is being defended with piss-poor arguments and memes.

SU is the new MLP, no matter how much autismos shitpost about the contrary.
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>>77821352
>legit tumblirinas here
>people here defend "buh gay marriage"
>sjw always here
>but is a boogeeman!!1
nice try
I know tumblr is justa web that allow opinions and art , but so far the hated "tumblr sjw crowd" is fucking here and there's no denied of that.
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>>77821394
No thats Rick & Morty.

At least use something good.
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>>77821328
>>77821352
>>77821369

Stop with the memes autists, go back to masturbate to cartoon gems while wondering why you're alone.
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>>77821412
>huh SU is not the new MLP
>his general is there with the ponies
Literally POETRY
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>>77821416
>cartoon gems
What?
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>>77820784
>come on f a m, you can't really believe that. I don't want to put effort into a bait post

I guess you suffer too much from ADHD to know what actual lore is.
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The style became more minimalistic in exchange for more complex storytelling.

SU vs Don Bluth
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>>77821433
>If I pretend to be oblivious I'll fool them!

Is this really the best tactic you can come up with.
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>>77821462
No, I actually don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>77821416
It's not a meme, Ludwig is one of the best characters to come out of Disney.

Also, why have gems when you can have bears named after candy instead.
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>>77821440
>SU vs Don Bluth

Yes I know how stupid this post is guys.
Don't take the bait.
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>>77821484
You put "muh" in front of something to mock it, not to praise it. Learn your memes.
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>>77821439
Considering that they have a 10 minute time slot, I think SU is doing a great job of introducing lore without shoving it in your face.

It's still foremost a fun cartoon, the subtle lore is just the cherry on top. I like how they don't make EVERY episode center around an overarching plot and that they can still have fun episodes.
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>>77821501
I thought it was to praise it.

Still, Cagliostro is a masterpiece.
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>>77821518
R&M is still better.
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>>77820422
Yeah, I would give a decade or so before we have a new great age of animation.
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>>77820096
Gotta remember Anon: entertainment is about "plot". Narrative, if you want to be specific. It's what keeps us interested and entertained.
When I was a child, I accepted things like "never ending struggles" of GI Joe and Cobra or He-Man and Skeletor. I accepted that there would be lessons learned from each episode, that would be forgotten by the next show, and gadgets or weapons or tools would all be discarded and forgotten.

But now, I'm an adult... I kinda want there to be consequences for the actions of characters. I want the doodad from episode 1 that appeared forgotten and discarded to show up in the season finale. I want people to admit they've behaved badly, and actually try to behave better in future episodes. I want less clunky exposition, more discovery.
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>>77820486
Of course it is you retard
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>>77821570
>a 22-minute adultswim cartoon where they're fully able to use adult themes and humour is even comparable
what

Steven Universe would have been a great fucking adultswim show though. Why don't we have any mature fantasy adventure cartoons anymore? I want them to FULLY explore gem corruption and death. It even looked like a Adult Swim show when it aired.
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>>77821290
Roadside Attraction
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>>77820217
Saitama-tan is too adorable. Needs to be more generic and nondescript.
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>>77821260
Tumblr ruins everything.
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>>77821621
I don't think she'd stay a fusion if something like that happened
It'd be interesting, but we haven't seen any corrupt gem fusions
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>>77820314
Last episode I saw was mosquito girl.

They are doing a flat out amazing job adapting the art.
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>>77821429
What?
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>>77821621
I also want much better animation as well but we can't always get what we want.
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>>77821582
So when is it coming.
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>>77820422

definitely this. once you to 2006...you really saw a major shift. 2010's is sort of like a slow gradual return....I'm hoping by 2020 we can maybe get more action cartoons and the tumblr era dies down.
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>>77821410
Do you have evidence what so ever on this?
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>no horror cartoons ever
>the option is either watching failed pilots or rewatching Courage or Extreme Ghostbusters for the 100000th time
Cry me a river, actionfags.
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>>77821689
The animation isn't so disgusting that it's unwatchable. It has pretty much grown on me anyways, it makes the show more comical and cute. I'm sure Rebecca is disappointed with the art direction though too.
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>>77821727
>tumblr era
Literally what?
>>
shows today are all made by creators that grew up with anime, no one remembers anime for their animation, which wasn't special anyway, but the adentures, the stories, the magical girls etc.

There is just no need for good animation these days, why waste money on something no one would care about
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>>77820361
From the last 5 years?
...
You're serious? Not just going to gainsay anything I suggest with the phrase "It's Shit" and then not posting any points relevant to it's quality or production? Not just gonna call it Tumblr and mic drop? You promise?
Seriously?

Okay.

Motor City was really good.
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>>77821801
It was shit.
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>>77821779
Why would she be disappointed in the art direction? She has a tight grip on the show so I'm pretty sure she approves of the art direction.
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>>77821776
Gravity Falls
Tome Unknown/Over Garden Wall
Johnny Test and Post Season 4 Spongebob
I get that there aren't many horror cartoons, but that's because it's harder and harder to do "horror" for kids
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>>77821801
>All those POC
It was tumblr as fuck.
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>>77821621
>tfw you're forced to watch weeaboo TRASH because there are barely mature, fantasy western cartoons

F U C K A N I M E

The only thing that satiates my hunger are the great DC animated movies they release. Gods and Monsters was fucking amazing.
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>>77821779
At least keys are done in the US for SMIP episodes.
>>77821718
When Japan gets it's head out of it's ass and replaces Korea permanently.

It's why 80s & 90s animation is much better then animation made today.
>>77821792
>which wasn't special anyway.
The 80s & 90s called.
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>>77821779
I wouldn't be so sure of that. The current style matches the style of the backgrounds MUCH better. And even if she's not happy with that, I'm sure she recognizes that the simpler lines and forms make the movement look cleaner as well as easier for the Koreans to in-between.
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>>77821727
Sorry to say anon but the tumblr era is here to stay. Deal with it.
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>>77821818
>Gravity Falls
>horror cartoon in any way

>Over the Garden Wall
>not meandering shit

And it's fucking easy, if you're not a retard who thinks gore = scary, and can work with suspense and characters designs well.
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>>77820368
I'm gonna point out that before tumblr took over, forced cartoon diversity was done with awkward shoehorns, and terrible steriotypes. How many black men in Cartoons played basketball? NOT ENOUGH OF THEM!
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>>77820361
Blue Jacket Lupin III.
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>>77821811

read this
>>77820531
>>77820632
>>77820610

Rebecca didn't originally want SU to look like it does now. She had to simplify it so that multiple artists could work on the show at once. She's probably okay with it now, but it wasn't close to her original idea.
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>>77821858
Rebecca Sugar went on record saying she hated the artstyle and character designs.
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>>77820183

Tumblr exist since 2007.
/co/ boards was created in 2008. /co/ blame Tumblr since always
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>>77821887
>>77821883
Source?
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>>77821828
Nigger it's set in Detroit. Where do you think POC come from?
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>>77821883
And her original idea was the pilot? If so, she made a good move changing up the art direction.
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>>77821862
They said the same about anime-like cartoons
You're going to disappear and be remembered as that really ridicolous era. Steven Universe will be the equivalent of Captain Planet.
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>>77821883
so artists in the animation industry are just terrible at drawing
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>>77821792
it's funny because in the 2000s, creators who no grew up with anime stuff try hard to be cool with "japanised" artstyle on western cartoon

and now we have just some rounds, cute, fat, colored style with annoying shipping, references to video games and bashing about 80s things "Lulz Mullet haircut is so uncool"
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Whats with this site and their weird obsession of SJW's and Tumblr? Do you guys think you're fighting someone? Fight the power?
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>>77821896
Her tumblr. She's constantly putting down the other storyboarders for their shit art.
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>>77821930
Where? sugar is rarely active on social media unless its a quick sketch or some official announcements.
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>>77821911

Not necessarily. It's just hard to have a really specific detailed style and expect others to properly emulate for a long-running show.
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>>77821896
http://interviewly.com/i/rebecca-sugar-aug-2014-reddit

"I wanted to make the characters more specific, simpler, and more flexible, so different artists could draw them different ways and they would still look like themselves!"

I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe she completely changed her art style because she wanted to. She obviously needed to because it was too complicated for other artists to draw.
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>>77819831
>What happened to animation?

Backgrounds are more important that characters design. Compare SU and Star has simple designs but amazing backgrounds,
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>>77821910
>SU
>equivalent to Captain Planet
Fucking how? There's more to SU than some Aesop whereas CP was nothing but MUH ENVIRONMENTALISM.
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>>77821925
>If I rewrite the same posts time and time again that'll teach them!

Stop being triggered and go away, you useless NEET.
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>>77821968
>I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe she completely changed her art style because she wanted to. She obviously needed to because it was too complicated for other artists to draw.
How was it difficult?
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>>77821972
>a skull is made of three dots on a blob
>amazing background
You guys are completely detached from reality aren't you.

>>77821973
google equivalent boyo.
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>>77820011
Upvoted
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>>77821968
You ever think Sugar wishes she could fire her storyboard team? She seems really bitter about them.
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>>77821973
But does SU have a memorable them song?
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>>77821972
Korra had much better backgrounds but horrendous coloring for them.
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>>77821960
>and expect others to properly emulate for a long-running show.
yes just as I said, remember when animators had to be good draftsman and not just suck up to their employee
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>>77822015
You still haven't explained how it would be an equivalent.
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>>77822037
The "full" version is crap but the normal version is 10/10.

> WE
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/co/ IS FUCKING AWFUL AT THIS
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>>77821973
So, you admit you watched CP. Very good.
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>>77821973
If you're talking about that homeworld crap, then there's just as much "lore" in Captain Planet, and just as much payoff.
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>>77822015

Anon please
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>>77822037

Honestly its the only thing I like about the show.
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>>77822052
Because it will be that really weird and corny cartoon that shoved sociopolitical messages down children's throat without having any real or lasting effect.
Plus it has gems that fuse togheter.
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Let Japanese animators do all animation instead.
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>>77822037
You tell me.
http://youtu.be/QOAwHG95mlk
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>>77819844
>holy trinity
hahaha

The answer is Poni.
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>>77821410
If you hate it gb2 /pol/ it's right there ->>>>
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>>77822087
Explain.
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>>77822089
There's light fucking everywhere there and not a single shadow.
You have no idea, NO IDEA what makes art good, please shut up.
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>>77822109
Worked in the 80s & 90s.
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>>77819844

Why /co/ loves Bill Cipher much?
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>>77821079
Better?
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>>77822113
>>77822062
>>77822102
The ending theme is probably more memorable f.am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mq34sdtxlE
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>>77822106
Good thing the point of SU isn't about sociopolitical shit.
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>>77822158
lolsorandom shitty villain
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>>77822158
They think of themselves as le eloquent and charming trickster gentleman, so they see themselves in him.
Same reason they like Coyote and Scratch, complete delusion.
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>>77822146
get rekt m8
>>
So, is no one going to stomp their foot in a tantrum about all the black and asian and arab people in We Bare Bears?
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>>77822164
Good thing you have no reading comprehension either, everything's good today.
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>>77822159
Jesus christ my dick
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>>77820381
Did it flop? All I ever heard of it were high critic reviews though, that usually does indicate something flopping somehow.

The impact of it, from what I can tell, is more that they proved a miniseries format can work for a cartoon.
CN's been doing a few different similar things since then. OTGW was completely independent and contained, later they had SU with the Week of Sardonyx which was a 5 part mini-arc for Pearl, and most recently we finished Stakes, which was also a mini-arc.
If I recall, they are also working on some other new miniseries for release sometime as well.
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>>77822146
How about this faggot?
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>>77820217
>Japan
>being sjw
Theatre people does black face and white face in japan
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>>77822224
R&M was a hit.
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>>77822193
>get rekt
How. You posted three "examples" of "amazing backgrounds" and only this one could pass as one, and that it's highly disputable anyway.
You're an idiot.
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>>77822193
>tumblr
Kill yourself you fucking SJW cunt, get off my board, we tried so hard to rid ourselves of your cancerous following and yet you keep coming back. Die you fucking tumblr fag.
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>>77822193
I can draw better than that with my eyes closed.
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>>77822240
get rekt
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>>77822209
>backgrounds
of course mate , that look like real USA
WBB don't pull that lesbian or crossdressing shit.
The only agenda cartoon is SU.
>buh muh clarence
Lesbians are not the important point there
lesbians/gays are just backgrounds and no plot driven like SU.
>muh rocks are not lesbians
Literally tumblr defense.
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>>77822243
Again, fixed >>77821193
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>>77822225
It's good but the water doesn't look anything like water.
Also I'm pretty sure that isn't a tv shot but just artwork.


>>77822209
It's a show that'll be cancelled and fade into oblivion, who cares.
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>>77821653
This kind of "progressive" art predates Tumblr by decades, and isnt even loved by them there. Leftist and liberals still like the hell out of it tho.
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>>77822211
What was to comprehend?
SU has LGBT characters; it must be left wing shit being shoved down kids throats like CP!
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Here's the thing; you CAN have amazing backgrounds, but why the fuck not put the same amount of effort into your character designs either?
For fuck sakes, I've seen better background work from a foreign film done in the 1970's.
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>>77822286
It's from an shot from an episode
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>>77822279
>can't find good examples in Star and SU
>goes to search in other cartoons
Ok you're an idiot but unintentionally funny, keep going.
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>>77822109
Gotta love that sixteen frames per second.
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>>77820971
>go to art exhibit at university
>'100 artists after Picasso'
>every artist is clearly unskill and only trying to ape on older better artists
>disgusting
>get free pizza and watch free screening of Fury Road
Worth it all in all
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>>77822133
what are you gonna do tumblrina? cry about that on your blog?
>muh /pol/
cry more whale i hate those faggots , too
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>>77822280
Unfortunately, im afraid the entire network has been plagued by tumblr.
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>>77819831
nothing, other than a resurgence in popularity since the mid-2000s
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>>77822280
>tumblr had a hissy fit when WBB had crossdressers
>no hissy fit when Steven crossdresses
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>>77822326
I agree.
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>>77822350
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>>77822307
>SU has LGBT characters; it must be left wing shit being shoved down kids throats like CP!

Yep, correct, good job.

>>77822313
>For fuck sakes, I've seen better background work from a foreign film done in the 1970's.
We don't bring eastern animation here because it'd be like comparing a child's drawning on a fridge to the fucking Mona Lisa.
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>>77822280

Wait, your literal issue is that lesbians are among the main characters? It's all well and good only when straight characters drive the plot? What?
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>>77819831
Basically all the people who're 20 somethings now who are new, up and coming talent grew up watching dubbed anime and 90s cartoons. Meaning a lot of their shows are derivative of those things. So there's a focus on having characters that are cute, have loose noodley proportions, Flashy animation and fights with an unfortunate lack of focus on weight, and lore that slowly builds over the course of a series. It's just that generation. Similarly in 10 or so years kids who grew up with 2000s cartoons will be making cartoons.
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>>77821831
>hates anime
>thinks G&M was "amazing"
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>>77822349
Also.
>no hissy fit when Bugs Bunny crossdresses, in fact people love it.
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>>77822280
Lesbians aren't the main plot point in SU. The MC has a girlfriend for Christ's sake.
>crossdressing
This shit again; how is it different from the millions of cartoons who have done this?
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>>77822359
I guess you're right.
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>>77822089
>>77821972
>those backgrounds
>good
both are utterly trash
SU colors are fucking gay cream cake

WoY , Gumball , Gravity Falls - Those have amazing backgrounds.
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>>77822350
>>77822357
>>77822313
>obligatory posting of anime movies and OVAs without regards to budget

Why do you people always come to these threads to do this?
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>>77822360
WHAT?
People don't like genetic dead ends?
BUT
BUT

IT'S

2 0 1 5
0
1
5
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>>77822321
k
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>>77822388
>gumball
>amazing backgrounds

I agree with everything else, but Gumball's backgrounds are pictures of real life backgrounds. Hardly amazing.
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>>77821831
>great DC animated movies they release
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>>77822359
>Yep, correct, good job.
You're retarded. By that logic, HxH is shoving left wing shit to Japanese kids.
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>>77822394
>budget
Yeah I'm sure that's the only difference between animes and cartoons lmao
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>>77822330
You must be over 18 to post on 4chan.
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>>77822359
The thing is that that was done by the same studio as Tiny Toons, not the same staff nor unit., but the same studio.

It's also like comparing a ZX Spectrum to a X68000 as well.
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>>77822423
>lmao

gb2 tumblr
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>>77822395

Why are you so hostile, genetic dead ends should be supporting each other.
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>>77822422
No.
Putting gay people because you want them in the story != putting them in in the hopes kids will like them and be more "acceptable" or some shit.

This is what makes the difference between story and propaganda.
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>>77822377
>>77822340
>>77822377
>muh bugs bunny as an example
playing for laughts
In SU? people cheer him and applaud him for crossdress. How the fuck is that for laughts?
Was next ? spongebob example?

>>77822378
>Lesbians aren't the main plot point in SU
>Garnet
>Fusion plots , episodes for lesbo fantasy,
fuck off , not even you believe that,
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>>77822395
How do genetic dead ends apply to immortal space rocks?
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>>77822378
Bugs Bunny confirmed for SJW
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>>77822457
On the contrary, it makes for less competition in the field.
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>>77822462
Well if youre going to have lesbians you might as well go all out, or would you rather a half assed attempt ala korra?
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>>77822425
>tumblrinas get triggered by 4chan
>still come here
>they think this is her safe space
HOW
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>>77822462
Did you also forget that there was episode where Steven fused with his female love interest?
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>>77821218
u mad?
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>>77822234
>Not reading what I am aswering, before taking conclusions.
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>>77822462
>In SU? people cheer him and applaud him for crossdress. How the fuck is that for laughts?
So what's the alternative? Have them the beat shit of Steven KotH style?
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>>77822394
Your average western TV show still has more of a budget than your average anime show.
The only difference is that the Japanese are willing to draw difficult objects at the expense of a limited budget.
You're also more than welcome to post good western animation as well. I'm just posting what I find exemplary.
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>>77822480
Then is agenda and you just prove my point
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>>77822477
Warner was the tumblr of the golden age of animation
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>>77819831
Miyazaki retired.
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>>77820240
>Wanting OPM to have a cancerous fanbase
>implying it doesn't already have one
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>>77822462
Steven has a girlfriend and he was born out of heterosexual sex and Lars and Sadie made out and always have relationship drama, wow the show is a straight propaganda too now.

You got problems.
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>>77822458
So what is the difference between the lesbians in SU and the yuri in Sailor Moon?
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>pony show has crossdressing
>holy shit transphobic
>SU has crossdressing
>holy shit trans girl steven

and they say we're the transphobes
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HI /co/! What cartoons do you like? I like SU and Korra and i also think Undertale is super cool!
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>>77822405
I think I read that a lot of the backgrounds are actually just...really good 3D models based on environments.
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>>77821394
Poni is a threat to tumblr. From the very beginning, /co/ had its hands on MLP:FiM as the first ones to notice the accursed new MyLittlePony series.

The fanbase did not rise from tumblr, not from multiple sites. No, it took it's winds from 4chan and setup fansites, by Anons, for Anons. The fan culture around it did not grow naturally from little fan circles. At it's very core, MLP fandom was 4chan thread.

To this day, tumblrinas fear poni and will desperately turn you against it.
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>>77822538
it's implied in SU, and sailor moon made it forbiddeneded due to the cousins clause
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>>77822548
Is there a joke I'm missing?
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>>77822522
So just including lesbians automatically makes it an agenda? Or how would you do it?
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>>77822458

You say this like moral lessons about diversity and acceptance haven't been in kids shows for the last 40 years.
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>>77822538
Anon doesn't like SU.
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>>77822158
3 reasons:
1. Intelligent
2. Nihilistic
3. Wicked sense of humor
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>>77822538
The lesbians in SU are used as a mean to change society. The lesbos and gays and trannies in Sailor Moon are not, which is why Takeuchi wasn't triggered and threw a shitfit when overseas they completely erased such concepts.
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>>77822565
Tumblr obsesses over all of those to a great degree.
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>>77822494
>one fusion male/female
>that means lesbians are non existand in the show
try better

>>77822511
i don't know mate

that is not for laughts like Bugs bunny , Spongebob and other crossressers like Gumball for example.
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>>77822564
What?
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>>77822542
tumblrites gave up on trying to "take back" pone. But in return, they've bunkered down in the SU famdom twice as deeply and hard.

They're learning.
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>>77822580
>intelligent

Part II proved he's just another cocky run of the mill villain.
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>>77822361
>Similarly in 10 or so years kids who grew up with 2000s cartoons will be making cartoons.

The resurge in cartoons with screaming characters will be awful.
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>>77822522
Doesn't everyone have an agenda? I mean whenever you make media you kinda put your beliefs into them. It's just it has an Agenda you don't agree with and so it's triggering you.
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>>77822570
Yes? The second part finale and the Hotel episode screams agendo to me.
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>>77822483
>know tumblr shit by heart
>repeats them
>watches the shows and goes to tumblr to hunt down the reactions
>literally has a blog

No anon, you're the tumblrinas
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>>77822588
>The lesbians in SU are used as a mean to change society.
No not really.
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>>77822571
I say that like those lessons didn't make for the silliest and shittest cartoon in existence.
Like I said, SU will be remembered as Captain Planet is today.

>>77822564
>implied
I still don't get why you people are blatantly lying to win internet arguments.
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>>77821629
Which he warned everyone about right before it aired.
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>>77822605
I'm pretty sure someone making something educational for kids doesn't have an agenda.
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>>77822588
Can you elaborate because that's kind of a lofty claim.
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>>77822610
For having lesbians embrace?
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>>77821193
>1980's
>No He-Man
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>>77822605
SJW/Dykes agenda
that's better right?
Same faggots that want to shoehorn gay things into everything.
Nigga be gay all you want but don't scream about that.
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>>77822623
Their agenda is educating kids. With all of the information they think is important and leaving out the information they think is not.
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>>77822616
Yes really.
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>>77822620
>Like I said, SU will be remembered as Captain Planet is today.
Not really. If anything, it might be Korra; at least the lesbians weren't last minute.
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>>77821328
Lupin the III was fucking amazing, kill yourself.
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I swear if i ever have a TV show im going to make every character gay just to spite you people.
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>>77822517
What is the anime of this taiwanese children cartoon?
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>>77822610
How do you function in real life
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>>77822659
How? Pearl's thirst for Rose really isn't changing anything.
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>>77822675
No please
Add a token straight character and make them trans
that way you can piss off both sides equally
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>>77822611
>don't have a tumblr
>hate sjw hit passion
>watched S1 because was fun , dropped S2 because all the agenda shit.
>i'm not /pol/ and i give a fuck about screengrabs
nice try whale. Was next? i'm a bigorot or something like that?
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>>77821193
Who's the orange cat in the 1970's era suppose to be?
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>>77822675
But, why?
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>>77822675
Can you throw in some gay men? Lesbians are kind of old hat.
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>>77822703
cool cat/top cat or something
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>>77822691
Noiseman Sound Insect by Koji Morimoto.
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>>77822646
So it's only okay when kids in kids' shows make out, date, make sex jokes, and have entire sideplots about their teenage love.
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>>77822646
It's not like SU was a previously made series that they MADE gayer. The characters in Steven Universe were gay from conception. And legitimately the only gay characters are the two little gems and the other is just implied with Pearl. I'm not gonna shit myself over 3 gay characters, 2 of which don't even show up for most of the series.
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>>77822675
and some otherkin
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>>77822634
For shoehorn SJW shit onto KIDS cartoons? of course.

>>77822692
>no gay marriage where i live
>gay don't scream , "muh rights" "if you on't enjoy watching me kissing my couple then you are racist" shit.
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>>77822715
>cool cat
Nigga what?
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>>77822591
I never said that. I'm saying that for every example of a gay couple, there's also a straight couple.
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>>77822736
Being gay isn't inherently a social justice thing you know. Gay people have existed for quite some time.
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>>77819831
Well if you saved it as a .gif instead of a .jpg :^)
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>>77822675
I'd watch it depending on how gay it is.
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>>77822620

Sesame Street, Magic School Bus, Rugrats, Arthur, and Hey Arnold are all examples, too.

Courage, Billy and Mandy, andTeen Titans all had that evil racial diversity, too.
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>>77822625
What's to elaborate, are you dense?

>>77822693
Ok no point in answering you anymore I see.
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>>77822742
cool cat is SJW propaganda
after all, he's cool cat.
and he loves ALL kids
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>>77822736
What's wrong with having lesbians in kid's cartoons? France does it and no one complains.
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>>77819831
It seems that when people say "Cartoons suck now compared to the 90s" or "Cartoons are worse than ever", they're really thinking about 2004-2010 - or, if you wanna be generous, 2008-2010 - and not the present day.

Sure, there were some gems (Avatar most of all), but much of it was cheap Flash and cold CGI, as well as live-action kidcoms threatening to devour the animation industry whole. Shows such as Back at the barnyard, Tak and the Power of Juju, Out of Jimmy's Head, etc. really encapsulate what this era was all about.

Things have definitely picked up in the New '10s, but for those few years things seemed like they would never look up, at least to me (and, if old forum posts are any indication, many other people).
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>>77822749
Alexander the Great was an SJW
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>>77822749
Gay people were invented by SJWs in 2003 as a means to take over the world.
Manufactured
By overweight, underpaid seamstresses
In a small broken down factory
DETROIT. DETROIT. DETROIT.
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FUCKING TUMBLR SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>77822759
You never answered my question dipshit.
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>>77822794
guys look it's five nights at freddy's
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>>77822723
>make out, date, and have entire sideplots about their teenage love.
Kids thing

>make sex jokes,
that kids don't get mate
SU literally screams lesbian shit. In a fucking KIDS show , do you think is ok to showhorn SJW shit on cartoons for kids?
Was next? a trans guy?
That screams aceptance propagando to me.
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>>77822816
Don't
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>>77822759
The boy with a sword in adventure time is a means to change society.
The talking Bird and Racoon in regular show are a means to change society
The Uncle who is also a Grandfather in Uncle Grandpa is a means to change society.

I'm asking for elaboration because anyone can just say that. But if you have an opinion for yourself and aren't just regurgitating something you heard someone else say you can definitely define in what ways Steven Universe is doing the things you claim.
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>>77822825
Did you not notice the lesbians in Courage?
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>>77822804
What have you done
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>>77822825
>all gems have no gender
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>>77822846
>lesbians
They were close friends, not lesbians.
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>>77822330
>>77822395
>>77822462
>>77822700

Man, for someone hating tumblr, you sure are acting triggered.
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>>77822804
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>>77822794
>muh lesbians theory
that episode just was domestic violence the episode. Friends help other friends.
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these threads are cancer
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>>77822825
You sound like you have no idea what you are on about
I really hope you aren't serious
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>>77821776
>Literally no drama cartoons ever
>The best you can hope for is a some rare independent movie
Eat a dick
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>>77822749
>>77822784
>>77822790
>>77822794
>>77822763


>when you get triggered so hard you start to shitpost
I like that you people are so unusued to being out of a hughbox that, when you are, you go completely ballistic.

>>77822758
It's almost like it's "why" and "how" you put them in that makes the difference.
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>>77822864
/co/ and tumblr are like two halves of the same coin.
Just a bunch of assholes getting triggered by people who think differently.
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>>77822856
Sure they were.
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>>77821193
>no poni
started on 2010
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>>77822825
So you're saying making out, dating and teenage relationship drama are a "kids' thing" but only as long as the kids are straight?
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>>77822844
You still don't get it! I'm using gays as a business to get elected! So I can end gays as a business...In my new America, people will die and kill...for what they believe! Not for money -- Not for oil -- Not for what they're told is right! Fuck this SJW Bullshit!
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>>77822907
You think get in love as a kid?
> but only as long as the kids are straight?
nigger are you saying kids are gay/lesbian , too?
Is this really America in 2015? What the fuck.
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>>77822907
Yeah. I'd rather show kids a straight couple fucking than two gays kissing.
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>>77822900
No, /pol/ is just as bad as tumblr.

No wait. /v/ is just as bad as tumblr.

Ignore that. The point is that if you think tumblr is wrong, you're just as bad as them and literally just tumblr too.
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>>77822896
>no drama cartoons ever
Hey Arnold at times counts.
>but it's not pure drama
And my examples are not pure horror. Deal with Western kiddie cartoons not being full-on adult stuff.
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>>77822914
I know who i'm voting for
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>>77822932
Are you literally a 70 year old senile uncle drunk on thanksgiving?
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>>77819831
I like how the only way you can get replies to your shitty bait threads is to literally lower cartoons like Star vs the Forces of Evil and Gravity Falls to the low budget, low quality productions that Cartoon Network routinely shits out.

It's part of a greater problem here that all CN fans are cancerous twats, on a similar vein to Sony fans on /v/, in that they try to overwhelm the board with their products (either by genuine young adult fuckhead fans who don't know better, or outright viral marketing) that results in a backlash from oversaturation.

If you want to shit all over Steven Universe, fine by me, but stop dragging actually decent productions down with it to stimulate your repetitive discussions.
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>>77822844
Rebecca Sugar herself stated something of that effect in an interview.
The difference with the two midget lesbos is that their relationship is way more sexual than the others, even though we had flashbacks of miss Jumbo and her slave, who actually had a child togheter.
And there's no other dimension to them, they are "the lesbian ones" and all the episodes with them were about their relationships, at least the ones I saw.
There's nothing to them but being lesbians and is pushed far harder than any other relationship in the show.
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>having gay characters in a show
There is no reason to do this unless you want more shipping porn of both of these characters.
That's the only valid reason to do so.
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>>77822965
Fuck off /sveg/. Go back to writing fanfics.
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>>77822965
>literally lower cartoons like Star vs the Forces of Evil and Gravity Falls to the low budget, low quality productions that Cartoon Network routinely shits out.
Yes, because Star and GF are the golden cows of animation. How dare they be grouped with peasant level works!
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Enjoy your muslims, Germany.
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>>77822965
I agree with you about CN shit, but can you /v/ autists please keep that shit out of this?
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>>77822525
That is false, Warners is as far away from Tumblr as you can get.
>>77822642
>>77822902
It's for it's own good.
>>77822703
Rascel The Raccoon.
>>77822770
That is fake, Avatar is garbage.
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>>77822964
SERIOUSLY
WHITE PEOPLE STILL DONT ACCEPT THAT KIDS MIGHT WANNA CUT THEIR DICKS AND PRETEND TO BE GIRLS?
COME ON PEOPLE
I MEAN
COME
ON

IT'S


5 1 0 2 0 1 5
1 0 1
0 1 0
2 0 1 5 1 0 2
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>>77822897
>when you get triggered so hard you start to shitpost
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>>77822907
>that post
>Gay kids
>fucking kids
literally pic related is SU
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>>77823014
Oops, wrong tab.
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>>77822978
>I think I sound smart when I'm really not
FTFY
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why not more detailed animations like this gif in the U.S? Japan animations tend to have shit budget and produce more detailed art in some shows. I understand that some things are style, but the U.S as of late, has grown lazy when it comes to art.
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>>77822932

No, kids become gay or lesbian only once they receive a letter from the talons of rainbow owl with their first gay kit for gay school
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>>77823014
>>77823038
Nah it applies here too.

Except the Muslims are CN fans and Germany is the animation enthusiast community.
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>>77822965
>Star vs the Forces
>good
>not just fap bait with a mediocre S1

Nigger fuck that trash
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>>77823047
I'm thinking it comes down to lack of training.
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>>77823047
Source for that animation?
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>>77823079
>He didnt see the god tier season finale
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>>77823037
>>77823028
>>77822932

Imagine being this triggered.
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>>77823066
nigger shows like SU are really propaganda from gays/sjw.
What about that SU camp comic?
SU so far is >>77823037 but in reality.
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>>77822952
Wait. Are you actually suggesting that tumblr is right?
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>>77823027
>Not including He-Man is for it's own good.
You've lost me Anon
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>>77823085
Do the Evolution by Pearl Jam
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>>77823079
It has better music, animation (even the "downgraded" studio), character development, and most importantly character and world design than anything CN has had since Samurai Jack.
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>>77822975
>There's no dimension to them
I guess you could argue that. I mean Ruby is meant to be passionate and emotional while Sapphire is stoic and logical but since we've only seen their personality in short bursts they're not very fleshed out.
Hell the first time we see them is just them trying to find one another and the other time involves them being in a fight.
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>>77823127
Yes i'm sure its very weird and wild anon.
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>>77823088
>oh noes the cocodrile make a surprise face
>god tier finale
top kek , also she got the wand again at the end of the episode because suddenly another unicorn appear.
Just accept the show is fap bait for /svfeg/ and move on.
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>>77823114
Tumbler is neither right, nor wrong, it's not one entity. It'd be like saying 4chan was right or wrong. It doesn't fucking work that way.
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>>77823114
he's suggesting that everyone is the same. everyone blames everyone else for their shortcomings so they don't have to pay consequences. it's been like that forever and it'll continue to happen. idiots are idiots so why don't we just do whatever the fuck we do.
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>>77822897

So what's the why and how that makes them so dramatically different?
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>>77822955
>Moving the goal post
Hey Arnold wasn't a drama series, it was a comedy that had drama in it.

>And my examples are not pure horror
Then why the fuck did you mention them?

You're splitting hairs here. The point of both of our posts is there are genres animation hasn't even been seriously touched, and these assholes feel the need to bitch at the ones that are there.
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>>77823137
True, at least we know we'll get episodes about how they met and how they lived back in Homeworld and their relationships with Rose and Pearl.

The show is limited by being strictly from Steven's POV.
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>>77823116
>Once McFarlane, Vedder, and Sony gave their final approvals, the short was taken to Korea by Altieri and Pearson for animation at Sun Min Image Pictures and Jireh Animation. Over a four-week period, a team of more than one hundred artists worked to deliver the finished animation.
Why is it that almost every single good animation done is always either outsourced to Korea or done by Japanese?
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>>77823156

This. I'm so fucking sick of people thinking that 4chan = /b/ / /pol/ and tumblr is all sjw. Fuck, man, I just run a gore and art blog.
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>>77823149
Fuck off with the high horse "You just fap to characters" shit as if its some unique property here. It's such a bitch ass tumblr comeback.

You can't tell me with a straight face first of all that 99% of discussion in /sug/ wasn't waifu war shit on a level that would make even A:TLA threads of old cringe.

The thing is, I can understand why people are attracted to a cute blonde princess who kicks ass. I don't understand why people are attracted to fat, ugly, overly emotional "asexual" space rocks.
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mfw /co/ has gone so far left, that it is now looping around to the right. Feels good man.
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>>77823184
Read the thread.

>>77823161
I like how you try to sound smart and insightful yet it's clear you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>77823185
>Then why the fuck did you mention them?
Because it's closest I have.
It's like wanting a Rolex, but settling for a brass Chinese counterfeit because you can't afford actual Rolex.
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>>77823241
case in point
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>>77823161
I wouldn't call SJWs taking over colleges worldwide and making people commit suicide "shortcomings".
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>>77822458
Did you even watch Sailor Moon? Like the episodes where all the girls think that Haruka is a guy dating Michiru, but once they see the truth they get shocked and accept it? The Sailor Stars season with the trannies? There is even a movie about Haruka and Michiru being gay.
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>>77823241

All I've seen is a bunch of disproven nitpicking. You can not like a show, anon, just stop trying to make up political reasons as to why.
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>>77823234
So you do fap to star fan fics?
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>eastern animation is doing so much better guis
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>>77823234
>I don't understand it and that's why it's bad!
That being said /sug/ DID get really shitty so I'm not gonna defend it.
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>>77823281
>All I've seen is a bunch of disproven nitpicking.
Then you either didn't look hard enough or are completely delusional.
In any case our conversation ends here.

>>77823249
>no u
It doesn't even work with the post you linked to, gj.
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>>77823127
What character development?
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>>77823263

>taking over colleges

A few loud, obnoxious protests aren't taking over colleges, save for the absolute clusterfuck in Missouri.
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Reminder that this thread started because JTfag is pissed that Teen Titans Go! was being negatively recieved here.
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>>77823263
Not that anon.

It's war. The good thing is, that they are starting to eat themselves, and suffering from infighting.
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>>77823234
>implying i give a fuck about /sug/
i care about good cartoons anon
Not the ones with an agenda but the fun , great episode ones.
S1 SU was great on its own , now is some shitty lesbian boring show with lame episodes as a excuse for the "hiatus".
Star was literally "LOLRANDUM" shit with a mediocre canadian first villain. Repetitive episodes and bad "plot" episodes. For example the face ogre one was awful. Same about the "Star is sad" one.
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>>77823272
Of course they didn't. They're just hoping no one on /co/ has either.
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>>77823272
First, it's not a movie it's a special episode.
Secondly you either didn't read the post or lack in reading comprehension, I didn't say they didn't exist in SM you retard.

>>77823297
eastern animation != toei
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>>77823309
And Britain...
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>>77823302

>points to disproven points or nonexistent reasons and calls opposition names

Now where have I seen this kind of behavior before
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>>77823297
Wow that single example from show made by a studio notorious for their QUALITY sure proved us all wrong.
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>>77823339

My bad for being US centric.
Your bad for being British.
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>>77823272

plus Haruka flirting with Usagi and Usagi having a crush on Rei.
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>>77823348
Here:
>>77822975
How was this disproven, or how is it nonexistent?
The more you post the more it's clear you live in your own little world.
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>>77822209
The blacks i dont mind, i love seeing hot asian chicks in cartoons, but i fucking want to rip the islamic vermin filthy veils off, and punch their god loving filth faces in.
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