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>>>/co/gfg
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>>77767417

>Next episode: Early 2016, "Weirdmageddon III" 1 HOUR SERIES FINALE

ALEX CONFIRMS THE SHOW IS COMING TO AN END:
http://shmalexsmirsch.tumblr.com/post/133619326491/goodbye-gravity-falls

SHOP AT HOME WITH MR. MYSTERY
Full playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqu1KOkjaPsbmNw-5gVV8msSUkyonwTwK

'POCALYPSE PREPPIN'
Rememberance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=herpO24u_Mg [Embed]
Governor of America:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5eJlHsmFd4 [Embed]
Checkmate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv-8BezSb6s [Embed]
How'd It Happen?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLiNy-TZZiY [Embed]

>"Weirdmageddon Part II: Escape From Reality" 1080p WEBrip Download:
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Buy "Gravity Falls: Legend of the Gnome Gemulets"!
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More Downloads:
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Fanart:
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Mysteries/Lore:
Decoding: http://themysteryofgravityfalls.com
More decoding: http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/
Cryptograms: http://gravityfalls.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_cryptograms

Don't screw up the OP.
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First for Pacifica's massive breasts.
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Mabel's bubble is the most diabolical trap Bill ever created, they said.
The power inside locked away forever never escape, they said.
Weirdmageddon gets weirder, they said.
This episode is going to give you lots of feels, they said.
Dipper was going to tell Mabel what Gideon did, he said.
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>>77786660
>embed

Jesus Christ, really?
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>>77786660
Fuck youuu

Dated fanart edition
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>>77786660
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gotta love Gompers
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>>77786729
Absolutely fucking not.
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Reminder that there is literally no reason for Bill to not have turned Dipper to stone
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>>77786709
An Akira reference

How original
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nth for Dipper's feet
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>>77786741
ANGRY GOMPERS
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>>77786742
Arrogance.
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>>77786753
Not enough Dip feet on the booru.
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>>77786660
great OP t͏͏b͏͏h f͏͏a͏͏m
*like*
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>>77786787
Not all Dipper pics get uploaded there, sadly. I figured some Dipperfag would have.
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>>77786753
>>77786787
>you will never flip a DipDip

Why are we here? Just to suffer?
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>>77786787
I know right? It's a travesty.
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>>77786839
WHERE'S THE REST OF THIS PIC
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>>77786720
I miss oppaianon....
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>>77786839
>inb4 bellyrub
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>>77786932
>implying that wouldn't make it ten times better
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>>77786746
Eh, it was a nice execution.
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>>77786742
Shitty writing.
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Reminder.
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>>77787507
Ok tumblr
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>>77787541
Ok leddit
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>>77787507
>>77787555
Mabelfag please

This is embarassing
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>>77787507
>>77787541
>>77787555
Ok torchan
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>>77786839
Is there a link to an uncropped version?

Even if that's all you drew, DAMN BoyBox.
10/10 hhnnnnnnggggg for affectionate Wendy.


Also... when you have the energy, could you do a Dipper version of the sweaty towel guy?
It's been done before, but your on-model style is really great.
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>>77787507
mabel doesn't have sex you creepy rube she's like 12
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>>77787507
>Mabelfags this desperate
4/10 image by the way.
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>>77787541
>>77787606
>>77787811

>all these dipperfags upset they got btfo
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>>77787922
>ohshitanmspaintcomic.png
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>>77787922
Dont be silly anon, everyone knows she's shit.
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>>77787922
The delusion runs this deep
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>>77787953
>>77788017
>>77788041

kek they're still mad
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>>77788215
This is pathetic, tumblr
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>>77788215
They as in everyone.
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>>77787541
>>77787555
>>77787623
ok rebeccasugar.com
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>>77787507
Don't go acting like she isn't a piece of shit 70% of the time
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>>77788554
She was pretty petty in the recent episode but that was the point. She was under hypnosis and her heart was broken so she had to learn a lesson and snap back to reality. A lot of people critically missed the point.

I fucking love that image tho.
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>>77788554
>70%

A low number, I say
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>>77788657
She wasnt under hypnosis, she was just being tempted with shit she wanted. Big difference. It's not like she didnt have a choice.
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>>77788766
>She wasnt under hypnosis
Yeah, she was. Watch it again.

It was a very subtle hypnosis, but it was there.
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>>77788657
>She was under hypnosis and her heart was broken so she had to learn a lesson and snap back to reality. A lot of people critically missed the point
I feel it was because it wasn't made too obvious she was under hypnosis. Other than Dipper's one line suggesting she has to be under some kind of control, we see her acting like she typically would in any other episode.
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>>77788806
She sort of "snapped out of it" at the end there, but once again, it was one of those things that could've stood a little more playing up.
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>>77788785
No she wasnt. Stop making up excuses for her being such a shit.
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>>77788868
Yeah, I can understand why people took the whole episode the wrong way.

Still, some of the emotional reactions people have had to it, like claiming Mabel ruined the show or they she ruined Dipper's life or whatever other nonsense - it's all completely overboard. And outright hating her because of this episode is also pretty ridiculous.
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>>77788868
I thought that was just her "growing up" and subsequently losing control/illusion of control of Mabelland

If that was supposed to be her breaking hypnosis, like you said they really needed to make it more obvious
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If Dippy Fresh were trying to capture the spirit of today instead of the spirit of the 90's, he'd be a youtube personality who makes loud noises for a living and calls himself #BigDippy
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>>77788969
>outright hating her because of this episode is also pretty ridiculous.
It's more a "because of this episode and many others" deal.
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>>77788806
>>77788868

I agree they could have stood to make the hypnotic effect less subtle. I got it right away (only because I went into the episode expecting it), but going by the response in /gfg/ it needed more focus.

The only really explicit sign is at the end, where she rubs her eyes and comments on how she's been listening to the same music for days on end. That sounded like an indication she wasn't quite in her right mind.

They might have also tried to show it in the characters' eyes: when Wendy and Soos gave in to their respective temptations, their pupils were big and shiny. And Dipper started to react to Roach Wendy the same way, until her wink snapped him out of it. Granted, glittery eyes are an obvious response when a character is offered something they want, but I thought it was worth noting since all three of them do it.

But the problem is they also used the same look at other times in the episode as a normal, purely emotional response. If it was meant to be a subtle hint toward mind control in Mabeland (and I'm not entirely convinced it was), they shouldn't have used it so liberally in the flashbacks.
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>Live in magical world that knows what you want and acts on it
>Can even know what you want before you even know you want it
>In comes Dipper telling Mabel exactly what she wants to hear
>Excellent chance to create an inception mindfuck is this actually real dipper or a fake dipper telling her what she wants to hear and leading her to a fake 'reality'
>1 episode left so most likely couldn't do something like this

Well would have been cool
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>>77789119
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Okay, thanks for watching! Be sure to Like, Comment, and Subscribe! Follow me on Twitter and Facebook, and check out my subreddit! Big shout out to Markiplier, Oney, Egoraptor, VlogBrothers, and the Youtube Studio that funded this video! Thanks for watching and I'll Dip you next time!"
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>>77789119
>>77789333
Great

Now I want it
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>>77789322
Who knows the two 80s guys coming back to 'reality' could be a foreshadow of them not being back in a true reality
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>>77789401
That's fucking awesome anon
Don't get my hopes up
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>>77789333
>Hello and welcome to #Dippy P's Top Ten Vinesauce videos sponsored by Buzzfeed!
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>>77789294
It sounds like people trying to see things that arent there.

But i guess if you want to believe it's possible that's fine. Those just all sound like really obvious things related to what was going on.
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>>77789322
Dipper is in a bubble himself in which he is so super smart he outwitted Bill's bubble and saved Mabel and led her into his "reality" and "defeated" bill
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>>77789401
>the two 80s guys coming back to 'reality' could be a foreshadow of them not being back in a true reality
>>77789322
>leading her to a fake 'reality'

OH GODFUCKINGDAMNIT

The 80s guys, Dipper, Mabel, Soos, & Wendy are all still inside the Bubble. They just broke through a fake 'layer'.

That Bill & Yo Gabba rejects we saw? They're all fakes created by the real Bill to populate the fake 'outside'.

The Bubble shield around 'gravity falls' they crashed into was the actual outer boundary of Mabel's Bubble.
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>>77789322
>>77789401
>>77789569
>>77789575
>Habeas corpus. Inceptus Nolanus overratus. Magister mentium. Magister mentium. Magister mentium.
But Inception is overrated?
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>>77789480

Yeah. Like I said, I'm not sure that I buy any of it. I do think the scene after she hugs Dipper raises some reasonable doubt, though.

But it doesn't matter all that much anyway, since it's clear there was a component of choice regardless. Mabel, Soos, and Wendy allowed themselves to be affected by Mabeland, and Dipper didn't.

>>77789569
>>77789575

If only.
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>>77789322
>>77789401
>>77789569
>>77789575
But can Alex deliver
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>>77789575
you know the sad thing?
This is not the case. This is TOO GOOD for this show. This require someone writing who isn't A HACK. Another theory that a anon had was that the reason bill couldn't leave was that his deal with mabel that summer would never end traps him there as time will stand still in that bubble.
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>SO
>MANY
>QUESTIONS
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please shutup
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>>77787507
Mabel IS a stupid cunt, though.

t. a Mabelfag
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>>77789036
>Mabel likes cute and crazy stuff
>Whenever someone comments on something Mabel likes, they usually say something about it hurting their eyes, or it
sounds annoying, etc
>When Mabel "breaks hypnosis" she just starts sees everything she likes in more or less the same way everyone else does to show that she is "growing up

Yup, no hypnosis here. All of this happened because Mabel wanted it to. The only sort of force that was affecting her was the idea that she could have anything she wanted at any moment she wanted it.

So yeah, most of Weirdmageddon 2's conflict happened because yet again Mabel is selfish, etc. etc.
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>>77791074
>Yup, no hypnosis here

Come on, it's alright to hate on Mabel, but don't be stupid, it's so obvious she was under hypnosis.
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>>77791121
It's obvious she wasnt. Please stop perpetuating this hypnosis meme. There is literally not a shred of evidence supporting it, it's all speculative.
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>>77791194
>>77789294
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>>77791310
Which proves nothing. Like i said, all speculative at best.
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>>77791326
Except for that Bill has a habit of playing head games, and all of this took place inside a giant trap dome he set up himself.
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>>77791480
You appear to not understand what the word speculation means.
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>>77789769
>Alex calling someone else overrated
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>>77791543
There's quite some evidence behind the speculation, you just seem to be in denial.
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>>77791567
You also appear to not understand what evidence is.
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>>77791543
ditto lol
There's just as much evidence as that Mabel was clear of mind, if not more.
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I bet Alex didn't even see a del Toro movie before he praised him on twitter
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>>77791655
didnt he outright call pacific rim shit once?
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>>77791646
Present this evidence then.
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>>77787507
>somebody was actually butthurt enough to make that
I swear, you can't write this shit.
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>>77791074
>Mabel likes cute and crazy stuff
>When Mabel "breaks hypnosis" she just starts sees everything she likes in more or less the same way everyone else does to show that she is "growing up"

I would be pretty surprised if that was the intended message. One thing Alex talks a lot about in his interviews is remaining young at heart despite growing older. I'm not sure he's the type who'd embrace the notion of 'setting aside childish things' as a marker of true maturity. In itself, there's nothing wrong with liking abrasively colourful crap or awful '80s pop. Some people never grow out of either.

If anything, I'd say it was meant to show that Mabeland was an exercise in excess. It took all of her most trivial interests and dialed them up to eleven in a constant barrage of glitter and cuteness. And for a while, it effectively drowned out her more practical concerns. What was acceptable and healthy in moderation became all consuming when left unchecked. But, kind of like eating an entire case of Smile Dip, once the high wore off, the (figurative and literal) crash kicked in.
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There's a huge elephant in the room on how dependent Mabel will still be on Dipper. Sure "let's grow up together" is a fine statement, but has she fully accepted Dipper will eventually go away?

Just like Stan vehemently wanted a dynamic duo, maybe Ford can harshly point out what needs to happen and Mabel accepts it.

"I've spent twelve years with you, bro. And maybe a few more from now. But not forever. When the time finally comes, I'll remember those twelve plus years. And I'll share them with everyone I care about."
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>>77792536
In a way you could even call this not a very positive message. They're basically being told to stick with what's familiar and not try new things, even if it may be difficult and you wont always have your security blanket.
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>>77787507
At this point this isn't even a parody. Every thread they get a huges hate boner over nothing. I don't get the issues these guys have but they probably need therapy.
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>>77792536
I think Dipper will stay with Mabel until the end of high school, in which Dipper pursues his dream on his own. To return to Gravity Falls.
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>>77789866
I'd relly like all the theories in this thread to be true, but the one about Bill not being able to leave because of his deal with Mable isn't true. He never shook her hand and made a true deal. All he did was break the rift container when she gave it to him. Her falling asleep was probably due to his new power, so there has to be something else keeping Bill in Gravity Falls
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>>77789866
>>77792877

Hm, do you think Bill is a metaphor for twins that NEVER separate? They become twisted shells that spread destruction to everyone else?
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>>77792868
>>77792677
In a way Dipper wanting to stay with Ford in Gravity Falls is equally childish. He really expects his parents to just hand him over to a man they've never known, setting aside the whole thing with Stan, having him drop out of school to study the paranormal? It doesn't matter how many PhDs Ford has, no sane parent is going to let their kid move to another state to be homeschooled by a stranger.
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>>77793016
Was it ever said that he was a stranger? The kids never knew about Ford but that's not to say their parents didnt.
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>>77792877
Fall asleep? I thought she fainted.
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I have the devilish, childish urge to see Ford backhand Mabel.

I hope it goes far, no matter what happens.
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>>77793073
Bill as Blenden snapped his fingers and made her sleep.
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>>77793035
I can see why you'd say that, but does Dipper really want to stay with Ford? Ford makes a strong case and Dipper is won over pretty easily, but think of what Dipper would miss out on if he stayed.

It seems like the episode is making the point that both Mabel's dream world and Dipper's staying with Ford are both fantasies that would mean abandoning the real world. When Dipper accepts that he can't live out his fantasy, Mabel has the strength to do the same.
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>>77792677
I really hope he doesn't, honestly. Hearing Dipper describe the reality of it in this episode changed my mind on it; that'd he'd be spending his "entire teens cooped up in basement". That's a terrible idea. Too much study and you end up like Ford. Too little and you end up like Stan.

Dipper needs to find some work/life balance, not miss out on some of the most important years of his life studying fringe-science in a the basement of a remote mountain shack.
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>>77793281

We REALLY needed a scene of Ford telling Dipper what he would be doing. And maybe some additional probing doubt from Dipper.
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>>77793262
Scientific research into real things is not abandoning the real world. I can agree that Ford would not make a good influence on Dipper, but I don't think writing ever made any consideration for it beyond how it made Mabel feel.
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>>77793281
I wouldn't imagine he'd spend every waking second with Ford though right
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>>77787507
>implying Mabel hasn't consistently been shown to be a self absorbed bitch all the way from early season one
Senior kek. Lets just pretend the rest never happened to this episode's reaction looks unreasonable.
Mabel is legitimately trash and gives not a single fuck about anyone but herself. Show me a single instance of Mabel self sacrificing without being harangued into it.
Every other character has done so to some extent, Dipper almost constantly. Mabel does nothing for anyone and Mary Sues it up the whole way down.
>inb4 not a Marrysue because she has superficial flaws
The two episodes that focused on her flaws both ended with the conclusion being, that the world is wrong and that Mabel is the best because she's weird also she's the kindest and how dare people not respect that.
>/c/uck calling other people autistic when he can't watch a cartoon without defending a chick
Fucking classic
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>>77793298
>>77793314
We'll just see when Dipper and Ford finally interact with each other during this chaos.

Next year...

>>77793309
Yes, but Dipper will still alienate himself from society. At least give the kid some time to spend his teen years with his sister.

After that, Dipper can go investigating the mysteries of the town.
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Was it the last episode for ever? Where is the actual ending?
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>>77793835
>Was it the last episode for ever?

Yes. That was the finale of Gravity Falls.

>Where is the actual ending?

The show is a metaphor for the end of your own adolescence. By leaving the conclusion ambiguous, it reflects the uncertainty of real life. Will you defeat the "Bill"s of your own life, and flourish where countless others have failed or merely endured? Only you can decide.

The real ending is in your heart.
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>>77793901
Bill won as soon as I found out about this show.
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Who else is really happy they didn't go with flash animation
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>>77794136
I'm probably the ghost of Walt Disney's head, and I approve this triangle.
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>>77794103
It's not like you can't make great looking things with flash animation, but I'm glad the show ended up this way.
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>>77793835
Yup. It was left ambiguous for speculation.
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>>77794269
Yeah, it feels organic and captures that pacific northwest atmosphere but with an absurd variety and infinite amount of weirdness.
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>>77791121
Mabel wasn't acting against her will or under someone else's influence. She was only "hypnotized" by the amount of distractions at her disposal.

Dipper almost fell into the same trap, but defied it. Mabel had the volition to do the same, but didn't.
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>>77794397
Needs plastic cat ears and glove-paws.
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>>77794491
Dipper is already cute enough on his own. He doesn't need accesories.
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>>77794491
Mabel didn't want to strip him completely of his dignity
Just of his shirt and pants.
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why Dipper is the best character, guys? :')
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>>77794689
He's the self-insert, so the life advice he gives out is basically Alex's view on the world.
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>>77788554
Someone should make the Toblerowned meme with Mabel.
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A complete list of all Season 2 episode names...
Can't believe we've reached the day...
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>>77786696
shit there's a good post of why I hated the episode. It was so fucking tame
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>>77795035
So glad it's a ONE HOUR series finale.
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>>77786696
What if

>THE POWER INSIDE
>LOCKED AWAY FOREVER
>NEVER ESCAPE

is a part of Bill's prophecy of which the wheel is a part of?

What if these clues refer to Weirdmageddon's containment in Gravity Falls instead of Mabel's bubble?
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>>77795095
Good idea. They'll probably abandon the town altogether in the finale.
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>>77786839
Where da rest of dis???
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>>77795166
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>>77793326
"Yeah who would sacrifice everything they've worked for just to save their stupid sibling?"

"Dipper would"

mfw no one remembers sock puppet theatre
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>>77794397
She literally subbed her eyes and realized everything was shit after talking to Dipper. I cannot think of a more cliched "just broke out of mind control" move
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>>77795205
If Mabel hadn't done that then she would've been worse than what people already think of her.

She let Bill run loose in Dipper's body for a good while even after Dipper had told her what was going on.

It also doesn't help that she hardly learned anything from it and continued to put her needs over her brothers.
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Joaje has no definition. Let me explain:

"Joaje" comes from a series of videos on YouTube called "Her Aim Is Getting Better" or "HAIGB" for short, by YouTube user "Enlarged Potato." These were YouTube poops of Gravity Falls. If you look back at the very first one, he uses the word "joke" from the "Her Aim" scene, trims it in half, stops the first part and deletes the second one, duplicates the first part and reverses it. Then they're put together as "joaje". Allow me to demonstrate:

Joke (original)

Jo - ke (split in half)

Jo (first part)

Jo - jo (duplicated)

Jo - oj (duplicate part reversed)

Joaje (sound of both clips put together)

TL;DR: joke - ke = jo + oj = joaje
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>>77795205
>Mabel, an evil demon has taken over my body and I'm left as an intangible ghost stranded in a different plane of existence!

>Well, yeah, I could help, but you know, we can't just stop the puppet show. After all it's more important than you.
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>>77795219
"ugh, where am i?"
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>>77795205
>mfw no one remembers sock puppet theatre
Not even Mabel, apparently, since the very next episode she press-gangs Dipper to risk his life while she parties.
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Favorite Season 2 Episode Poll

https://strawpoll.me/6132538
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>>77795473
>Could not cast your vote. Error returned by server: User has already voted on poll
r-reddit?
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>>77795205

>Stan spent years giving up his own life for Ford
>Ford is selfish as fuck, comes out of the portal angry and kicking Stan out of the house he maintained for longer then Ford even owned it
>Stan will do anything for his family
>tfw Stan is actually closer to Dipper instead of Mabel because of this
The "selfish egotistical" genes went into the normal twin, Mabel, instead of the smart one like Ford
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>>77795507
Maybe he liked it in there.
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>>77795507
Yeah, that's probably why the shooting star is on Ford's side instead of Stan's.

Mabel let go of her selfishness and saw the error of her ways, will Ford do the same?
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>>77795535
KEK

>>77795473
D&MvsTF
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>>77795576

I feel like I'm re-watching that episode of Malcom in the Middle where his mom is willing to sacrifice him and his smarts for his stupid older brother

I really liked Mabel at first but her non-stop selfish behavior has really turned me off from the show, especially Season 2. Dipper & Stan confirmed MVP
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>>77795507
Shoving Ford into portal was Stan's fault to begin with. Yes, he atoned for it, well done. They are even now, discounting that one time he ruined his shot at good college.
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>>77795576
>Mabel let go of her selfishness
As if teen Mabel won't act exactly the same after they save the world.
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>>77795219
>>77795376
Sounds like she just had too much Smile Dip desu
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>>77795640
>Shoving Ford into portal was Stan's fault to begin with. Yes, he atoned for it, well done. They are even now, discounting that one time he ruined his shot at good college.
ford go home, nobody likes you
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>>77795640
It was a LONG time ago, he should've gotten over it already
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>>77795640
Shouldn't you be helping Bill with the bubble?
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>>77795722
You say that as if it was an isolated event 30 some years ago, but you have no idea what shit he might have been dealing with for that whole time up until like a month ago. It didnt "happen a long time ago," its been happening for a long time, and considering an infinite realm of bullshit he might have been put up against, I can see him being a bbit apprehensive to apologize.
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ford deserves everything that's happened to him
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>>77795722
Did you see what happened to Fiddleford when he only entered the portal for a very short amount of time?

It was traumatizing enough for him to fuck up his brain with the memory eraser.
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>>77795640

if Ford had listened to his brother about what happened at the Science fair instead of making assumptions none of this would have happened
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>>77795489
m-my nigga
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>>77795805
Including death?
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>>77795821
If Stan had talked to his brother about how he felt instead of keeping his emotions bottled up and acting without thinking, none of this would have happened.

It's pretty easy to the play the blame game.
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>>77795763

Note that even before the portal thing, Ford was an absolute cunt to his brother, which is exactly what sparked the fight that led to Stan accidentally pushing him into the portal. Stan was overjoyed to see his brother again after years oof being given the cold shoulder for something he didn't do, and Ford treats him like shit and tells him to go away the moment he has no use to him.

I can never understand how people can condemn Mabel her thoughtlessness and then in the same breath defend Ford, who is way worse than thoughtless and straight into the realm of intentionally hurtful and petty.
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>>77795854
Ford didn't deserve that.

He just wanted to be an hero, which is why he likes fantasy tabletops like D,D&MD. Ford's fascinated with the idea of heros, villains, and "Our quest shall be our sweet reward".
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When season 1 was a thing I thought Mabel would stay with Stan and Dipper would go home, after he left, Mabel was just a servant to Stan
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>>77795871
>and then in the same breath

>implying I don't defend both Mabel and Ford
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>>77795903
"Yes Grunkle Stan..."
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Am I the only person here who doesn't hate any of the Pines?
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>>77795854
>Including death?
Ford isn't dead though.

Not yet.
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>>77795867
They grew up with Filbrick, anon. That card doesn't play here.
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>>77795871
>I can never understand how people can condemn Mabel her thoughtlessness and then in the same breath defend Ford, who is way worse than thoughtless and straight into the realm of intentionally hurtful and petty.
Because I think Dipper should cut toxic Mabel influence off his life like Ford did. Both Stan and Mabel deserve to shuned and disowned by their siblings.
Ford's only mistake was calling Stan.
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>>77795926
I'm with you anon. Flaws are a thing.
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>>77795926
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>>77795854
he ain't dead tho senpai
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>>77796019
Not yet.
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>>77796039
>>
Stan > Ford
Dipper > Mabel

Is this correct?
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>>77796148
At least on /gfg/, yeah.
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>>77796148
Pretty much, for different reasons.

We've gotten to know Stan, and not enough about Ford. We know WAY too much about Mabel.
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>>77795813
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>>77795636
This. Gravity Falls started promising, but Mabel was a negative flaw that kept getting worse. In the end she being such a central character who was lousy ended up crippling the quality of the show. That isn't to say the show doesn't have other flaws, like Wendy being super pointless essentially.

But I digress, never let beta males like Alex Hirsch do anything.
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>>77796254
Why is Wendy pointless whereas Soos isn't?
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>>77796279
they've never established her character like Soos do
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>>77795991

Man, you have no idea what a real toxic family member looks like, holy shit. Mabel and Stan are fucking angels.
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>>77796279
Soos has a stronger connection to the Pines than Wendy.

They could've done a better job with Wendy. I don't think she's completely pointless.

The rivals (Pacifica and Robbie) were handled poorly though. I mean, Pacifica's redemption was decent but it's just odd that it was done by Dipper and not Mabel. Same for Robbie's except his redemption wasn't decent.
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>>77793309

It is the way Ford goes about it. Dipper wanted a ghost hunting show on TV, and he wants to see the world and be admired by people. Ford wants to stay in a basement only going out to get samples and punch monsters, and as little contact with humanity as possible.

Ford's life would drive Dipper insane within a month. Two tops.
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>>77796328
>The rivals (Pacifica and Robbie) were handled poorly though. I mean, Pacifica's redemption was decent but it's just odd that it was done by Dipper and not Mabel.
It's poetry! But really, she redeemed herself. And I guess Dipper redeemed himself from hating her.
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>>77796355
>But really, she redeemed herself. And I guess Dipper redeemed himself from hating her.
That's true. I didn't really think of it like that.

I also guess they were trying to go with some sort of switcheroo by having each twin help the other's rival somehow.
>Isn't it cute how the twins handle each other's problems?
But it just feels odd when you have so many character focus episode between Pacifica and Mabel and Robbie and Dipper.
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>>77796328
>The rivals (Pacifica and Robbie) were handled poorly though. I mean, Pacifica's redemption was decent but it's just odd that it was done by Dipper and not Mabel

I think what caused that was the fact that, well, Mabel didn't actually hate Pacifica anymore. Mabel seems really bad at hating people in general, really - she hurts people due to being thoughtless, not because she actually wants to hurt anyone. Dipper, though, still hated her. So having him turn around and give her a chance gave the episode more emotional gravitas.
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>>77796355
I just want to see how she survived and made it to the cabin.
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>>77796322
This so much. Really reveals a limited life view
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>>77796425
And how she ended up wearing a burlap sack

Did her clothes get hit by a weird wave and come to life? Did she have to ditch them or they would have captured her like her mother?
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>>77796279
She's in the show's opening implying she matters but most of her involvement is actually aimless detached bullshit unachievable romance crap. It also hurts Wendy that she personally is highly DISINTERESTED in solving the supernatural mysteries. She only had like two occasions where she actively wanted to deal with the supernatural. So there you go. The character shouldn't have existed.

And just in case, the only reason /co/ would object to a female character being omitted from a show's production is MUH FAP! MUST PATHETICALLY FAP!
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>>77796404
Was still weird how that happened when just the time before, he was perfectly okay with letting her get killed by golfball people.
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>>77796460
I wish candy, grenda, and Paz would wear Mabel's sweaters
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>>77796470
>It also hurts Wendy that she personally is highly DISINTERESTED in solving the supernatural mysteries.

That's a lot of characters, though. Like, even Mabel honestly doesn't give two shits about supernatural mysteries, mostly, unless they specifically affect her, and she's the coprotagonist. Most of the time she's just there to keep Dipper company.

The problem with Wendy is that she just never was given a chance to DO things. Soos got a couple episodes centering on him so he could do stuff, but Wendy got nothing.
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>>77796254
>Not liking Mabel
She's nice and while she does have flaws, she does the best she can whenever she realizes her mistakes.

I think you're too cynical. Mabel's character is the chill pill man.

>>77796322
>>77796450
These.

>>77796470
She's pretty chill and can give really good advice and is just fun to hang around with. The thing with Wendy is that she's too cool for the show.
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>>77796478
He was willing to let her be terrorized by ghosts as well. He hates her and he never saw her human side before.

>>77796470
>It also hurts Wendy that she personally is highly DISINTERESTED in solving the supernatural mysteries.
I don't think it's true. She rarely appears but she's always supportive of Dipper when she does. Maybe even more supportive than Mabel.
She could've used some more screentime though.
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>>77796470
>all that romance crap
Yeah, bad Alex.
>she mostly doesn't care for the supernatural.
I think that's a good distinguishing personality trait. But a little unbelievable, she's supposed to be an edgy reckless teen
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>>77793262
That's not how i saw it, being with Ford wasnt really presented in an unrealistic, fantastical way, it wasp pretty much in line with how the show went the entire summer
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>>77796460
Didn't a few days pass while part two was happening? Plus the last scene I saw of her mum was running away by herself.

>Mother of the fracking year folks.
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>>77793281
That scene was retarded and anyone taking it seriously should choke themselves.
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>>77796555
That's not intelligent discourse
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>>77796528

Nah she's not cool, the kids at school treat her like a loser.
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>>77796565
That scene is not intelligent subject matter.
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>>77796549
Pacifica and her mom might have gotten separated by the running crowd.

Either that, or they both made it back to the mansion, it was clearly unsafe to stay, and Priscilla was too stubborn to leave it behind.
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>>77796576
Do they? Or was the borduroy one-off
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>>77796576
One joke doesn't make her a loser. But I would like to see more of canon her rather than having to figure out myself.

I feel that writers do have a coherent idea what she is like, but it rarely clear enough on the show.
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>>77793281
>>77796555
>I don't know what the future will bring, but I do know if I stay with Ford I'll end up exactly like him
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>>77796587
Care to explain why?
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>>77796615
It was never explained what Ford's apprenticeship would be like and even assuming what it would be like he sounds full of shit. He made it seem ike Ford was only a scientist and never a man of actio.
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>>77796576
Cool in a sense that she's well composed and knows how hide her insecurities without being a drama queen.
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>>77796520
>Like, even Mabel honestly doesn't give two shits about supernatural mysteries, mostly

I feel people sometimes forget this. Mabel is not really a mysteryhead like Dipper. She just goes in the mystery hunts to have some fun with her brother. And half the time said hunts end up with her in peril and Dipper having to save her, which I imagine probably doesn't help build a love of adventure escapades.
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>>77796644
Exactly. Dipper's assuming that. We WILL see in the finale what's the resolution to this conflict.

Plenty of time since it's one hour long.
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>>77796666
This. Mabel wants to bond with Dipper and give him support. Plus, she keeps Dipper sane.
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>>77796685

Admittedly, Mabel is not always very good at it, because if thinking before acting was money, Mabel would be destitute.
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>>77796672
>expecting the finale to address that
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>>77795640
>ruined his shot at good college.
>>77795821
>if Ford had listened to his brother about what happened
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>>77796722
Ford and Dipper have to talk eventually.

Dipper has to tell Ford that he wants to cherish adolescence with Mabel, and when that's over, he'll be back in Gravity Falls. Pursuing his dream.
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>>77796812
Prepare to be disappointed.
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>>77796848
Nah. I have my hopes up.
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>>77796857
Why?
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>>77796876
Cause they're a masochist.
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>>77796857
You silly motherfucker.
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>>77796886
>>77796895
Trips confirm that Alex Hirsch is a

TALENT
A
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E
N
TALENT
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>>77796928
That's not how trips work you fucking manlet.
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>>77796460
>her clothes get hit by a weird wave and come to life
>she was running around at the whole town without clothes until she found a sack
l-lewd, where's the drawfag when i need them?!
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>>77796970
I'm from /sug/. I just watched this show a few hours ago and It's one of the best animation shows in history.
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>tfw the redditors thought last episode was good
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>>77797067
Because it was good. The people here are irrational and even spread their virus to the subreddit and other parts of the fandom.
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>>77797098
found redditor
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>>77797067
The episode had alot of Gravity feels and great continuity. Its perfect.
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>>77797204
>it's perfect
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>>77797204
>Gravity feels
Great, it's this guy again.
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>>77797204
>gravity feels
Are you the same guy that keeps using this?

Anyway, the emotional impact during the trial scene wasn't that good. It was actually really disappointing considering this was the moment where Mabel let's go and finally grows up a bit.
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>>77787684
>Also... when you have the energy, could you do a Dipper version of the sweaty towel guy?
Here you go, anon.
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>>77796520
This is it. Wendy would have been a great character if she had more screen time and got to do more things. I can remember Soos having 4 episodes that established his character, while the closest we got to a Wendy focus was the Cupid episode. We never even saw her family life. Hell, we got more of Pacifica's story than we got Wendy's
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>>77797067
it was decent

are you memeing
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Why are all the side characters sans Mcgucket/paciffica one note?
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>>77797294
Absolutely perfect! Saved for reaction purposes.
Now we just need one for Wendy, Mabel, Stan, Soos, Ford, Pacifica...

Did you draw an uncropped version of this?
>>77786839


Keep being amazing BoyBox/Sweetscreen
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>>77786660
>Next episode: Early 2016
Fuck this
Fuck that
Fuck Disney
Fuck their scheduling
Fuck everything

I'm done

See you on the other side, dawgs
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>>77797067
People with shit taste gobble shit up, what else is new?
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>>77797428
It's just one more episode. You've been through countless of hiatuses, I'm sure you can handle just one more.
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>>77797375
>Did you draw an uncropped version of this?
No. Sorry.
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Anyone else waiting impatiently for the release of this piece from D&MvsTF?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0MOraLfgQTP
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>>77797784
I'm waiting for Scary-oke and NWHS myself.
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>>77797704
Thank you, my curiosity is satisfied.

Still love it for bedroom-eyes Wendy and affectionate dialogue. Implications can do wonders.
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>>77797704
I'm just gonna imagine she's rubbing his feet.

It'd be an awkward position for Dipper but I need this
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>>77797784
Nope, im waiting for early 2016
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>>77786839
You know what would make this better? If Wendy's tits were bigger
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I just saw part 2.
It was good, very funny and the sibling memories were sweet.
However, I'm still a bit disappointed. It was a good episode but it didn't really seem like series conclusion stuff. Weirdmaggedon hasn't gotten sufficiently weird yet.
I would like to be scared a little bit
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>>77795640
Fuck off, CalArts shill.
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>>77798092
Welcome to the club, pal.
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>>77789866
>TOO GOOD for this show

Nigga, that is the dumbest idea ever. Not to mention it makes Weirdmaggedon drag on
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>>77793035
Their dad is younger than the portal incident. Lots of /ss/ in the Pines family tree.
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>>77798087
Nnnice.
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>>77791707
WHERE ARE HER TITS
I WANT HER TITS
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>>77797848
>ADVENTURES LASTLY DRAW TO A CLOSE
>PINES TWINS NOW LEAVING GRAVITY FALLS
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>>77791707
>tfw no pacifica rim giantess episode
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>Dipper and Mabel in court
>Dipper doesn't bring up Ford being taken by Bill
It felt like Dipper failed a speech or persuasion check or something and opted for the sibling love.
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>>77798317
I need to collect all those drawings made in that thread and put them in one image. Or at least an Imgur album.
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>>77798396
Honestly the worst part about this episode is that no one even tries to mention Bill or the apocalypse to Mabel.
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>>77798454
>Honestly the worst part about this episode is that no one even tries to mention Bill or the apocalypse to Mabel.
False. They do.

Wendy tries to tell Mabel until she gets distracted by her friends.
>Uh, actually, Mabel, I'm with Dipper on this. Gravity Falls is in trouble and I really think-
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>>77798454
I still say the worst part is Dipper's idea that being with Ford means he needs to be a basement dwelling, autistic, shut in who will never go outside again in his life.
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>>77798633
Ford would probably be a good teacher for Dipper. He would not, however, be a good caretaker.
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>>77798800
I think he'd do alright.
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>>77798850
He "shaves" with fire, anon.
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>>77798886
That doesnt mean he's going to shave Dipper with fire.
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>>77798800
>He would not, however, be a good caretaker.

It's not like Stanley was either. They both would be about the same.

We saw how Ford was willing to make a lightbulb for the twins and take time out of his work to play a game with Dipper.

>>77798886
That's not good reasoning at all.
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https://desustorage.org/co/thread/77663228/#77663228

In case anyone would like to remember the firsthand reaction to the episode. You can pretty much pinpoint exactly where everyone got pissed off.
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How many teasers/trailers/promos/whatever are we going to get for the finale?

60 minutes means almost three episodes, so I predict three times the normal amount of promos, also I think they're going to start airing them much earlier than usual (so if the finale is set to air at the end of January, we'll start seeing promos in December)
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>>77798850
I don't hate the character, but I wouldn't let him take care of my kids knowing what I do. He'd not only be a teacher but also the parental figure, and nothing I've seen so far indicates he would be up for that task.

Can he assess a situation ahead of time to determine whether or not it would be too dangerous? Could he discipline Dipper appropriately if he did something that warranted it? Does he know where the line between being a friend ends and being the parent begins? It's a tough job for those of us with experience. It would be a hell of a time for someone who has literally never spent time around young people.
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>>77799050
I'm sure he could get a doctorate degree or something of equal value in child rearing and development in a matter of days.
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>>77799000
Absolutely kek at the reactions to Dippyfresh
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>>77798633
I just wish there had been build-up to his decision, anything to show that he had been having second thoughts.

Dipper's been idolizing Ford this whole season, so him suddenly assuming that being his apprentice would be awful seemed really out of place. It made it seem like he was intentionally giving up on his interests just to make Mabel happy.
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>>77799037
>>77799121

>so if the finale is set to air at the end of January
That's very optimistic, but I'm thinking March or later.

>>77799037
>60 minutes means almost three episodes
Most hour-long shows are ~45min of show, 15+min of commercials.

Given that we've got two end cards left, I'm betting it's 2 episodes aired back-to-back.

Probably more of a cliffhanger than other episodes, and Alex probably fought tooth and nail to get them aired together instead of 6 months apart.
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Okay guys why the fuck is the download links jumbled up?
Why do you do this to me?!
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>>77799154
Probably because that's exactly what happened.
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>>77799094
>a doctorate degree or something of equal value in child rearing and development

Oh, anon. You'll understand one day. All the reading and studying doesn't prepare you, at best it just help you better deal with what's to come. Children/teens don't come with equations or algorithms, sadly.
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>>77799214
I dont think he'd do much worse then Stan honestly. We havent seen him with them as long but from what we have seen i think he can handle one smart, good kid like Dipper no problem.
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>>77799094
>>77799214
He's not a bad caretaker, or at least any worse than Stanley. I'm not really sure why this is even being discussed.

He hasn't treated Dipper or Mable coldly at all. We saw the way he treated Dipper in the Dungeons episode, and the way he treated Mabel in the Mabelcorn episode. He's fine.
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I want to >>77777777 Wendy and Pacifica
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>>77798454
If there's no mention of Mabel giving the rift to Bill in the last episode, I'm officially done with the series.
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>>77799162
http://themysteryofgravityfalls.com/
Here ya go, newfriend.
Just paste the links and hit uncover. It's a road block so Disney doesn't find 'em all simple-like and have the episodes pulled down.
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>>77799248
To be fair, I wouldn't leave my child with Stan, either.

Ford technically has the intellectual capacity to care for Dipper, but I don't think he even sees him as a child. More like a mini version of himself. Treating a kid with the respect of an adult is far different than treating one AS and adult.
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>>77799000
All that anger, so delicious. I was almost starting to run low on my own for that bullshit pile of garbage
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>>77799321
Thank you friend.
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>>77799326
Ford has no delusions about Dippers age and capacity. He even refers to him as a younger version of himself, he knows not to expect much more from him. Or if he does then i trust Dipper to tell him such. I think they'd get along great even in a more caregiver / teach role instead of just the relative he looks up to.

Honestly it just makes me want a series with them even more.
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>>77799326
I feel like Ford does project some of himself and his feelings onto Dipper, but not entirely.

Some people act like he's forcing Dipper to become his apprentice as well.
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>>77799159
>I'm thinking March or later
God, no. Just fucking no. But I know Disney is actually capable of doing this. Their scheduling is downright disrespectful and disgraceful.

>Given that we've got two end cards left, I'm betting it's 2 episodes aired back-to-back.
Someone from the production crew confirmed 22 episodes for Season 2 earlier this year.
In this case 21 episodes would have end cards, and the last episode, 22, would be without one (because there is room for only 21 on the puzzle).

Seeing as we got 19 regular episodes, it's pretty clear to me that the remaining episodes 20, 21 and 22 were condensed into one huge episode and it'd fit the scheme of "2 episodes with end cards, one without an end card". I'm betting 60 minutes of content without commercials.
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>>77799288
>He hasn't treated Dipper or Mable coldly at all

Oh, he certainly hasn't treated them badly, but being a good caretaker means more than being nice. It's deciding what is best for your charge. The beginning of M&DvtF suggests to me that he can be reckless about what he drags Dipper into.
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>>77799303
Wendy & Dipper >>77777777 each other.
http://gravityfalls.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=48362
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>>77796596
I would wager that mum abandoned Pacifica for her own sake..Would fit her personality.
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>>77799432
I guess I'm looking at this scenario in the literal sense, from the perspective of a parent. As a cartoon, it would be cool to see them do stuff together.
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>>77799451
>http://gravityfalls.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=48362
>Mutual gaining
>M-My dick
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>>77799435
>Disney is actually capable of doing this.
Pic related was made right after NWHS aired, and turned out to be overly optimistic.
It's gonna be a lonnnggg Winter.
They might even air it in June.
"Summer in Gravity Falls is ending, but Summer is just heating up on DISNEY XD!">>77799435


>Someone from the production crew confirmed 22 episodes for Season 2 earlier this year.
I hope that wasn't a mistake. 60 continuous minutes of Gravity Falls would be fantastic.
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>>77799159
Huh, I hadn't noticed the woodpecker was petrified
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>>77799507
As a parent the twins wouldnt be with either Stan or Ford. Especially after Stan lost the shack.
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>>77799538
There will never be an episode where Wendy & Dipper win the annual Gravity Falls eating contest together.

They will never over-use Soos's infinite Pizza slice.
http://gravityfalls.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=34985
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>>77798334

AS THE FINAL CURTAIN DRAWS,
ALEX'S HACKERY IS THE FINAL STRAW
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>>77799613
Right. I said as much here. >>77799326
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>>77799598
I guess you could say his pecker is rock hard
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>>77799665
Yeah, i think it's best to have a mind set of what makes for a better show, not what we'd want or do in real life.
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>>77799639
>http://gravityfalls.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=34985
>Wendy will never belch in your face as you squish your face against her stuffed gut, listening to her sounds of digestion
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>>77799747
Can't argue there. It's rather bizarre how you can get so attached to a character that your parental instincts can kick in when something goes down onscreen. Another kind of projection, I suppose.
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The wait is shorter than we think. In 2-3 weeks, zap2it will announce any new episodes in January and we can shitpost until then.
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>>77799591
Season 1's winter break (the wait between Summerween and Boss Mabel) was 134 days
Season 2's first winter break (the wait between The Love God and Northwest Mansion Mystery) was 83 days

I'd say we're getting the finale in February for sure.
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>>77799878
I only want to know the date so I can prepare myself.
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>>77799763

That's disgusting.
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>>77799903
I'm guessing February 15th based on the past Disney scheduling
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I probably should have left these as two different pics. The don't mesh together well, neither vertically nor horizontally. Oh, well.
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>>77799432
>Ford has no delusions about Dippers age and capacity.
>He even refers to him as a younger version of himself

That in itself is delusional. Dipper is different from Ford in a number of very important ways. And when Ford assumes Dipper will react just as he does to dangerous, high pressure situations, he puts Dipper at risk.

The most damning Dipper-Ford moment so far, in my opinion, is the one where they're first confronted by the security drone in the ruins of the ship. Because Ford sees Dipper as his mini-me, he expected Dipper to be capable of controlling his thoughts in the same way he does--with disastrous and confidence shaking results for Dipper. Anyone who'd spent some time with Dipper, really looking at him and paying attention to how he reacts, would have known the kid's high strung and has a hard time calming down on command. Ford proved in that moment he's blind to Dipper's personality and needs beyond what he can identify of himself in him.

>he knows not to expect much more

On the contrary, I think that leads him to expect too much of Dipper--or at least to expect Dipper to respond in ways he's not typically inclined to. He holds Dipper to the same exacting standards he measures himself by. Just think of the scene where he was captured by the security drone. He legitimately expected Dipper to coolly write him off and prioritize the safety of the Rift. That's an attitude a battle hardened adult might take, but expecting a naive kid, one for whom family is extremely important, to think similarly is ridiculous.

Ford can't see the differences in Dipper because he's too busy projecting himself wholesale--kid self, teen self, adult self; the works---onto him. That's not clearheaded at all.
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>>77800204
All it needs now is the sad twins over Stan's grave
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>>77800274
Good post.
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>>77800274
So he expects a bit much from him, Stan has done the same thing. Pretty much all the characters have been guilty of this.
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>>77800588
Yeah, but see that's where the part about facing off with security drones shows up. Nobody else drags him into stuff like that.
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>>77800699
I'm pretty sure Stan has gotten the kids mixed up in dangerous shit too, dont act like hes been a hazard to their safety on multiple occasions. Like even having them at the shack in the first place.
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>>77800588

Well, yes. That's why he's not a good candidate to be the sole caretaker of a child. Having reasonably high expectations based on a clear assessment of potential is one thing. In the right circumstances, that encourages kids to excel. But being ignorant of Dipper's true capabilities, to the point of putting him at risk, is another thing altogether.

Neither Ford nor Stan are particularly good guardian material. Which isn't surprising, given what kind of father they had.

Although he strives to keep the kids out of danger and does seems to recognize they need some protection (at least when the plot allows for it), Stan's parenting methods are equally questionable in other ways. If it hadn't been for Dipper's visit to Stan's Mindscape in Dreamscaperers, who knows how long Dipper would have gone on resenting Stan for his unfair treatment. How differently would the rest of the summer have gone if it weren't for that convenient insight into Stan's motives?
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>>77795926
This.


Picture unrelated, I just like this face.
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Who was the phone?
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>>77800832
I think Ford could still learn, he's not an idiot. If he sees that Dipper isnt up to his expectations he could lighten up on him or even just tell him. What they're doing isnt safe to begin with, he never said it would be easy, or non-threatening. He knows the risks, Dipper does too. You cant put Ford in that kind of normal parent mindset when that's not what the point of the apprenticeship is about, it's not what the show is about.
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>>77800878
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>>77800832
At the very least Ford doesn't hit Dipper like Stan does.

That stuff can fuck a kid up and it's weird seeing Gravity Falls gloss over it like it's nothing.
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>>77800986
I finally have a reason to post this again!
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>>77801059
Oh man you have no idea, I have a whole folder
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>>77800910
>I think Ford could still learn, he's not an idiot. If he sees that Dipper isnt up to his expectations he could lighten up on him or even just tell him

The thing is, I'm not sure Ford would see it; or at least, not any time soon. Maybe over time, with enough failures, Ford would begin to understand Dipper better. But it wouldn't come naturally to him.

Of course Ford's brilliant, but booksmarts don't always translate into social intelligence. In general, he seems to have a lot of blind spots when it comes to understanding other people. The severity of his falling out with Stan proved that, even after living together for 17 or so years, he still didn't really 'get' Stan.

And expecting Dipper to admit he's not up to anything is right out. If there's one thing Dipper has been consistent about throughout the show, it's his eagerness to impress. Whether it was Wendy's friends, his own family, or a rich brat he doesn't even like, he's always gone above and beyond to come off as capable. Add that to Dipper's idolization of Ford, and I can easily picture Dipper slipping into a pattern of struggling in silence to meet Ford's expectations.

>You cant put Ford in that kind of normal parent mindset when that's not what the point of the apprenticeship is about,

It is, though. Ford isn't just signing on to mentor Dipper from 9 to 5. He's also offering to become Dipper's full time guardian. He would have to fulfill a parental role as well an educational one.

>it's not what the show is about.

I think it's fair game for discussion. There's a hell of a lot more nuance to the familial relationships in the show than in most other cartoons.
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>>77801433
If the show was about a normal family striving to be normal it wouldnt even be Gravity Falls. Mabel maybe wants that but Dipper has always been curios about exploring the weird and supernatural. Stan isnt the kind of figure any parent would leave their children with and yet we go along with it anyway.
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>>77801915
We can assume that D&M's parents think Stanley IS Ford, he took his identity and everything, unbeknownst as far as WE know, to most people. This would mean Dipand Mabels parents would assume stan is ford and not wory about his shenanigans sending them over to him fuck i cant type ihave jizz on my hand
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I'm going to mourn this show like a best friend.
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>>77801976
Doesnt that kind of imply that Dipper and Mabel's parents at least trust Ford enough to watch their kids? Not sure where the arguement against Ford comes from all considered. The worst we've seen so far is that incident with the drone, meanwhile Stan has had them involved in all kinds of dangerous, criminal, and hazerdous activity and no one's arguing against his right to have both, let alone just one.
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>>77802051
Oh nah I thought you WERE talking about stan. yeah ford is just a little wacky, X years away from our normal universe will do that. The guy sees potential in dipper but the only way he knows how to unlock it is to force him in the same ways he was forced when he first encountered the paranormal
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>>77801433
Is Ford on the spectrum?
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>>77802519
Hard to determine. I think it's definitely possible, but people with high intellect can sometimes have similar traits. It also wouldn't surprise me if Stan had ADD and a mild learning disability (the impression I get is that he can be pretty darn smart, but I struggles in some areas and has trouble focusing on something he's not motivated to do.)
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Dipper and Mabel's reconciliation... that looked so lame. It felt so rushed. I don't think I've ever been so disappointed. What was i expecting...
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>>77799305
>I'm officially done with the series.
>last episode
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redpill me on this general, /gfg/

give me sort of a tldr, what are discussions like, how is the crowd, what is general consensus among you on the show and the latest episodes in particular?

i've only just finished marathoning it and it makes me a bit sad that i missed all the memery and the show is nearly over.
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>>77803345

It's been fun. The rollercoaster is almost ending.
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>>77799958
>airing it a day after Yearly Reminder That You're Single Day
Doesn't seem like a smart choice, I doubt it.
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>>77803408

>I'll never leave you, Mabel! Let's grow old together!

Disney continues its subtle twin ship
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>>77799305
I'm sorry you have autism
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>>77803345
>give me sort of a tldr
It was cancer, just like every general ever conceived on 4chan.
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>>77803499
but was it a good type of cancer?
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>>77803507
sorry but i'm straight and have no weird fetishes
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>>77803554
Depends who you ask. But no.
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>>77803217
You were expecting writing worthy of the penultimate episode of the series, not the usual tame "Mabel and Dipper make up" shit that we've already seen dozens of times
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https://en.shindanmaker.com/216576
Hey, try this thing out guys.
Post GF characters and post results here
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>>77803574
You're not welcome here
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>>77803574
Looks like you have a fetish for underage romance. That's pretty weird. And so is Alex
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>>77803633
That's the thing, if this had been filler I'd have thought of it as weak filler like The Love God or Roadside attraction, but as the penultimate episode it was really a let down. Especially as a Mabel fan. She is my favorite and she was so shitty in this episode.
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>>77803633
I'm the anon you were replying to, and I pretty much agree with everything >>77803719 said. Mabel's my favorite character and I thought she really was going to live up to that insane God-tier promo art
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>>77803679
it's a non-romantic kiss
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>>77803719
>or Roadside Attraction
Roadside Attraction is a few steps below "weak filler" The writing was so fucking godawful it's no wonder Alex prefaced it by saying "hey guys, this isn't really canon!"

Truly, the only thing wrong with RA is it wasn't a straight Mabel-Dipper episode. If they had leaned more on the Mabel side of things it wouldn't have suffered because as we've seen time and time again, there is no better excuse to fuck Dipper over than to have it be advantageous for Mabel. Take away that Mabel side of things and people start to notice how shit Dipper has it.
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>>77803808
Doesnt look like it.
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>>77803345
The only reason I ever came to the general was to express my pedophilic adulation for Mabel.
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So Ariel might be doing an AMA on reddit

Anything you clucks want to ask?
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>>77803966
>When the fuck does the next episode air?
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>>77803950
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>>77803903
>"hey guys, this isn't really canon!"
>implying continuity-free == non-canon
Your meme is shit.
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>>77803966
Why the hell would you do anything for a Klondike bar? Legitimate question, it's a really average ice cream product and I don't get how they can market themselves entirely on asking people what stupid hoops they'd jump through just to get their hands on one.
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>>77804067
The point is, Alex was ashamed of it and intentionally distanced himself from it because even he saw how bad it was.
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>>77803966
Why? She's irrelevant to the show, they only good part will be people asking incest questions
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>>77803966
How often did you molest Alex with your feet?
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>>77803574
How do you feel about Wendy's big and embarrassingly stinky feet?
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>>77804551
Dipper's small feet are better and aren't gross like Wendy's
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>>77804387
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>>77804590
>implying Dipper's feet aren't constantly sweaty and stinky
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>>77804590
I bet Dippers are the worst actually. which makes them the best.
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>>77804491
this guy is asking the important questions
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>>77804706
They aren't. Dipper is 2D and they don't smell unless you want them to cause he's perfect shota.
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>>77804790
>unless you want them to

Who wouldn't want them to?
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>>77796975
>Pacifica runs around the whole town naked while living, trashy/tacky clothing chases her
Don't know if this idea should be lewd or funny.
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>>77789575
>Fake Bill figures this out
>So pissed off at real Bill that he teams up with the good guys to break out together
>Fight against real Bill
>Fake Bill about to get Fatality'd
>One of the good guys sacrifices themselves to save fake Bill because none of them are powerful enough to beat real Bill without him
>Fake Bill and the remaining good guys seal real Bill forever
>Fake Bill watches over Gravity Falls as its protector after learning the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
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>>77805258
Nah, Bill's dying by chance as the righteous philosophy foretold.
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I guess with the show coming to an end, the haters are coming out in droves.
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>>77805389

I'm guessing Bill traps himself and Stanley in a death game, with the dice killing both of them.
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>>77795926
I don't.
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>>77805460
>the haters are coming out in droves.
not really, Weirdmageddon II was just a letdown
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>>77805555

>Ford and Mabel will never really accept each other and there will always be some resentment

Please Alex
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>>77805636
But they're already on good terms.
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>>77805636
I don't think it's Ford or Mabel holding the resentment here. Yeesh.
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>>77805793
>You're a good person Mabel
Fucking lel.
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>>77805556

It wasn't even bad. It's just that there were so many missed opportunities to make it incredible, and they fucked up by not establishing IMMEDIATELY that Mabel was under hypnotic influence.

Seriously, if you just established that within the first five minutes, this episode would have been a lot more enjoyable, rather than Mabel acting like a cunt the whole way through, with a quick resolution at the end about how she was under control.
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>>77805802

Oh, once the Rift is revealed, things will soon be escalated.
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>>77805927
Maybe? Sure, it's possible.

All I wanted to do was share a cute picture, man. I wasn't trying to make a statement.
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Screw the negativity. Here's another cute group picture.
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>>77806066
It's funny, because even in canon they're negative with each other. That pic can't happen.
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>>77806066
Lets fix that
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>>77805793
Get ready for that to get inverted horribly if Ford gets turned back to normal and finds out Mabel unquestioningly gave the rift away

I'm sure he'll understand to some degree the circumstances, but there's no doubt he'll be beyond cheekpained
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>pacifica is alone in the apocalypse
>her parents didn't save her
>dipper did once
>dipper shows up alive at the shack
>she treats him like a security blanket
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>>77806087
Just wait until the reconciliation. You don't want it to happen, but it will. Rest assured, it will.
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>>77806201
>implying they'll have time to even mention mabel responsible for the rift breaking in rushedmageddon.

Ford already said he was responsible for this happening. They aren't going to touch upon it again.
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>>77806201
If its anything like Dipper's promise to Gideon, I dont think it will be even mentioned.
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>>77806240
Please

PLEASE

And have her sometimes realize what she's doing, and when she goes to pay Dipper to not speak of this, she again realizes she has no money, and goes back to sobbing into Dipper's arms/chest
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>>77806240
>pacifica dies
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>>77806288
The only people who personally witnessed the rift being broken are Mabel and Bill anyway.
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>>77806121
Dipper literally did nothing wrong.
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>>77806349
She did tell Dipper, Soos and Wendy in the rift doe.
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>Pacifica gives Dipper titfucks in the sack every night, while wearing her sack.
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>>77806288
>Ford said he was responsible
>At this point they only think the rift broke in the backpack, and not that it was explicitly smashed by Bill after it was handed to him by Mabel after he simply asked her to

>>77806293
>They have made it painfully obvious that the only characters who know how Weirdmageddon started are Mabel and Bill
>Everyone else assumes something out of anyone's control was the reason the apocalypse is happening

Nigga, the signs are all there, they WILL at least mention it, if not devote 10 minutes to the issue to solve it in a satisfying way
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>>77806382
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>>77806382
He may get treated ridiculously unfairly compared to other characters, but he is not without sin.
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It's not going to come up at all probably. I really don't think it's as important as you guys think it is.
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>>77806382

>Is prepared to leave everyone at the NorthWest mansion todie because of shit that happened hundreds of years ago.
>Is willing to let Pacifica be killed at the golf course because she's snobby
>Nearly gets everyone killed by raising the dead to show off to the agents.
>Nearly gets everyone killed by pissing off the Summerween demon, throwing away all his sister's hard work for him, all for the chance to stand in the corner of a party his never-will-be girlfriend will be.
>Makes a deal with Bill's actual form (remember how much everyone shits on Mabel for dealing with Bill under cover?) and using his sister's stuff to bargain with.
>Was willing to get himself, his sister, grunkle, and everyone else kicked out of the Shack because of a hissy-fit in Dreamscapers.
>Rituallistically mocks Thompson to fit in.
>Records every single time he beats his sister in anything to make her feel like shit.
>Sends a fighting master to beat the shit out of a teen

Hell, I love Dipper, but he's not really that great a person.
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>>77795944
Is that Alex's dog?

If not, whose dog is that?
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>>77806439
>>77806475
>>77806619
But he did not contribute to Weirdmaggeddon
Order of responsibility:
Bill
Ford
Stan
Mabel
Blendin
Gideon
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>>77806676
If he didnt find the journal, Stan would still be twiddling his thumbs.

Also, sudden moral chart. What would you change?
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>>77806492
Well, considering how much they've established Bill entering reality as being the worst possible thing that could happen, having a character make that happen solely because they don't know what they're doing and they want something for themselves is a pretty big thing to overlook

Then again I wouldn't be surprised if Mabel doesn't even get a sliver of blame in all this considering what she represents
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DOES THE WHEEL MATTER?!
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>>77806772

Ted Strange should be true neutral.
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>>77806676
If he'd listened to Ford and sealed the cracks in what was holding the Rift weirdmaggedon wouldn't have happened.
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>>77798633
Part of Fords motivation for making the portal was to get girls to talk to him.

He's a fucking loser.
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>>77806676
One could argue if Dipper hadn't left the rift in his bag Mabel wouldn't given it away, but yeah Mabel shouldn't have given away something that wasn't hers on top of not knowing what it was
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>>77800204
This artist has the cutest little mabel
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>>77806811
Yes
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>>77806772
>wendy
>good
>soos
>neutral
Change Soos to LG, Dipper to NG, Wendy to TN. I don't think there's any significant LN character. Agent Powers I guess.
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>>77803791

Yep. That promo art really makes it look like the episode is going to trip your heart out, or at least really dig deep into Mabel's character. Have some emotional stuff. Instead, we really don't get that at all. Mabel doesn't even show much emotion the whole episode. Compare that to the incredibly emotional end of DaMvtF. This was the resolution to that, and it was so, so weak. Actually, the resolution was literally an afterthought tacked onto the very end of the episode. All the shit that just happened isn't even discussed.

There was so goddamn much potential there that was squandered.
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>>77795926
You're not the only one. I chalk any annoyance to them being human. Humans are assholes in some way or another. "Nobody's perfect" is a damned understatement. Honestly, Mabel and Ford's selfishness isn't even all that outrageous. Love, happiness, and a dream school aren't even close to the douchiest motives.
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>>77806972
Charlattes has the cutest everything.
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>>77807301
Neat
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>>77807301
Hahaha holy shit
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>>77806972
Her Stancest art is pretty great too.
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>>77807301
>implying they wouldn't vacuum it up or notice it the next time someone walked in.
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>>77806201
Then Dipper can turn it back on him for keeping secrets for no reason but his hero complex.
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>>77803633

Dipper didn't really get tested or grow in Weirdmageddon II, either. The resolution was the same as it was last episode and in Northwest Manor: he gives a little speech. Actually, those episodes were more impressive because of who he was giving the speeches to.

This whole episode dramatically lowered the stakes. First, we find out the apocalypse is only even in one little town, most people have no fucking idea, since status quo is god. Then, the characters go from being reallt emotionally effected by everything and put through the ringer in the last two episodes to not seeming fazed. The result is that while Dipper and Mabel vs the Future hyped you up, this hypes you down going into the last episode.
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Another season and Gravity Falls would've rivaled Twin Peaks total runtime. I guess if you don't include the non-Lynch half of the second season it might equal out.
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>>77806794
>Well, considering how much they've established Bill entering reality as being the worst possible thing that could happen, having a character make that happen solely because they don't know what they're doing and they want something for themselves is a pretty big thing to overlook


If she actually knew the importance of the rift or knew she was making a deal with Bill I could see it being important.
She gave it to Blendin who promised her an endless summer where she doesn't have to grow up and Weirdmageddon 2 already covered that.
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