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Don't screw up the OP.
Mabel's bubble is the most diabolical trap Bill ever created, they said.
The power inside locked away forever never escape, they said.
Weirdmageddon gets weirder, they said.
This episode is going to give you lots of feels, they said.
Dipper was going to tell Mabel what Gideon did, he said.
>you will never flip a DipDip
Why are we here? Just to suffer?
Is there a link to an uncropped version?
Even if that's all you drew, DAMN BoyBox.
10/10 hhnnnnnnggggg for affectionate Wendy.
Also... when you have the energy, could you do a Dipper version of the sweaty towel guy?
It's been done before, but your on-model style is really great.
Don't go acting like she isn't a piece of shit 70% of the time
She was pretty petty in the recent episode but that was the point. She was under hypnosis and her heart was broken so she had to learn a lesson and snap back to reality. A lot of people critically missed the point.
I fucking love that image tho.
>She was under hypnosis and her heart was broken so she had to learn a lesson and snap back to reality. A lot of people critically missed the point
I feel it was because it wasn't made too obvious she was under hypnosis. Other than Dipper's one line suggesting she has to be under some kind of control, we see her acting like she typically would in any other episode.
Yeah, I can understand why people took the whole episode the wrong way.
Still, some of the emotional reactions people have had to it, like claiming Mabel ruined the show or they she ruined Dipper's life or whatever other nonsense - it's all completely overboard. And outright hating her because of this episode is also pretty ridiculous.
I thought that was just her "growing up" and subsequently losing control/illusion of control of Mabelland
If that was supposed to be her breaking hypnosis, like you said they really needed to make it more obvious
I agree they could have stood to make the hypnotic effect less subtle. I got it right away (only because I went into the episode expecting it), but going by the response in /gfg/ it needed more focus.
The only really explicit sign is at the end, where she rubs her eyes and comments on how she's been listening to the same music for days on end. That sounded like an indication she wasn't quite in her right mind.
They might have also tried to show it in the characters' eyes: when Wendy and Soos gave in to their respective temptations, their pupils were big and shiny. And Dipper started to react to Roach Wendy the same way, until her wink snapped him out of it. Granted, glittery eyes are an obvious response when a character is offered something they want, but I thought it was worth noting since all three of them do it.
But the problem is they also used the same look at other times in the episode as a normal, purely emotional response. If it was meant to be a subtle hint toward mind control in Mabeland (and I'm not entirely convinced it was), they shouldn't have used it so liberally in the flashbacks.
>Live in magical world that knows what you want and acts on it
>Can even know what you want before you even know you want it
>In comes Dipper telling Mabel exactly what she wants to hear
>Excellent chance to create an inception mindfuck is this actually real dipper or a fake dipper telling her what she wants to hear and leading her to a fake 'reality'
>1 episode left so most likely couldn't do something like this
Well would have been cool
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It sounds like people trying to see things that arent there.
But i guess if you want to believe it's possible that's fine. Those just all sound like really obvious things related to what was going on.
>the two 80s guys coming back to 'reality' could be a foreshadow of them not being back in a true reality
>leading her to a fake 'reality'
The 80s guys, Dipper, Mabel, Soos, & Wendy are all still inside the Bubble. They just broke through a fake 'layer'.
That Bill & Yo Gabba rejects we saw? They're all fakes created by the real Bill to populate the fake 'outside'.
The Bubble shield around 'gravity falls' they crashed into was the actual outer boundary of Mabel's Bubble.
Yeah. Like I said, I'm not sure that I buy any of it. I do think the scene after she hugs Dipper raises some reasonable doubt, though.
But it doesn't matter all that much anyway, since it's clear there was a component of choice regardless. Mabel, Soos, and Wendy allowed themselves to be affected by Mabeland, and Dipper didn't.
you know the sad thing?
This is not the case. This is TOO GOOD for this show. This require someone writing who isn't A HACK. Another theory that a anon had was that the reason bill couldn't leave was that his deal with mabel that summer would never end traps him there as time will stand still in that bubble.
>Mabel likes cute and crazy stuff
>Whenever someone comments on something Mabel likes, they usually say something about it hurting their eyes, or it
sounds annoying, etc
>When Mabel "breaks hypnosis" she just starts sees everything she likes in more or less the same way everyone else does to show that she is "growing up
Yup, no hypnosis here. All of this happened because Mabel wanted it to. The only sort of force that was affecting her was the idea that she could have anything she wanted at any moment she wanted it.
So yeah, most of Weirdmageddon 2's conflict happened because yet again Mabel is selfish, etc. etc.
>Alex calling someone else overrated
didnt he outright call pacific rim shit once?
>somebody was actually butthurt enough to make that
I swear, you can't write this shit.
>Mabel likes cute and crazy stuff
>When Mabel "breaks hypnosis" she just starts sees everything she likes in more or less the same way everyone else does to show that she is "growing up"
I would be pretty surprised if that was the intended message. One thing Alex talks a lot about in his interviews is remaining young at heart despite growing older. I'm not sure he's the type who'd embrace the notion of 'setting aside childish things' as a marker of true maturity. In itself, there's nothing wrong with liking abrasively colourful crap or awful '80s pop. Some people never grow out of either.
If anything, I'd say it was meant to show that Mabeland was an exercise in excess. It took all of her most trivial interests and dialed them up to eleven in a constant barrage of glitter and cuteness. And for a while, it effectively drowned out her more practical concerns. What was acceptable and healthy in moderation became all consuming when left unchecked. But, kind of like eating an entire case of Smile Dip, once the high wore off, the (figurative and literal) crash kicked in.
There's a huge elephant in the room on how dependent Mabel will still be on Dipper. Sure "let's grow up together" is a fine statement, but has she fully accepted Dipper will eventually go away?
Just like Stan vehemently wanted a dynamic duo, maybe Ford can harshly point out what needs to happen and Mabel accepts it.
"I've spent twelve years with you, bro. And maybe a few more from now. But not forever. When the time finally comes, I'll remember those twelve plus years. And I'll share them with everyone I care about."
In a way you could even call this not a very positive message. They're basically being told to stick with what's familiar and not try new things, even if it may be difficult and you wont always have your security blanket.
I think Dipper will stay with Mabel until the end of high school, in which Dipper pursues his dream on his own. To return to Gravity Falls.
I'd relly like all the theories in this thread to be true, but the one about Bill not being able to leave because of his deal with Mable isn't true. He never shook her hand and made a true deal. All he did was break the rift container when she gave it to him. Her falling asleep was probably due to his new power, so there has to be something else keeping Bill in Gravity Falls
In a way Dipper wanting to stay with Ford in Gravity Falls is equally childish. He really expects his parents to just hand him over to a man they've never known, setting aside the whole thing with Stan, having him drop out of school to study the paranormal? It doesn't matter how many PhDs Ford has, no sane parent is going to let their kid move to another state to be homeschooled by a stranger.
I can see why you'd say that, but does Dipper really want to stay with Ford? Ford makes a strong case and Dipper is won over pretty easily, but think of what Dipper would miss out on if he stayed.
It seems like the episode is making the point that both Mabel's dream world and Dipper's staying with Ford are both fantasies that would mean abandoning the real world. When Dipper accepts that he can't live out his fantasy, Mabel has the strength to do the same.
I really hope he doesn't, honestly. Hearing Dipper describe the reality of it in this episode changed my mind on it; that'd he'd be spending his "entire teens cooped up in basement". That's a terrible idea. Too much study and you end up like Ford. Too little and you end up like Stan.
Dipper needs to find some work/life balance, not miss out on some of the most important years of his life studying fringe-science in a the basement of a remote mountain shack.
Scientific research into real things is not abandoning the real world. I can agree that Ford would not make a good influence on Dipper, but I don't think writing ever made any consideration for it beyond how it made Mabel feel.
>implying Mabel hasn't consistently been shown to be a self absorbed bitch all the way from early season one
Senior kek. Lets just pretend the rest never happened to this episode's reaction looks unreasonable.
Mabel is legitimately trash and gives not a single fuck about anyone but herself. Show me a single instance of Mabel self sacrificing without being harangued into it.
Every other character has done so to some extent, Dipper almost constantly. Mabel does nothing for anyone and Mary Sues it up the whole way down.
>inb4 not a Marrysue because she has superficial flaws
The two episodes that focused on her flaws both ended with the conclusion being, that the world is wrong and that Mabel is the best because she's weird also she's the kindest and how dare people not respect that.
>/c/uck calling other people autistic when he can't watch a cartoon without defending a chick
We'll just see when Dipper and Ford finally interact with each other during this chaos.
Yes, but Dipper will still alienate himself from society. At least give the kid some time to spend his teen years with his sister.
After that, Dipper can go investigating the mysteries of the town.
>Was it the last episode for ever?
Yes. That was the finale of Gravity Falls.
>Where is the actual ending?
The show is a metaphor for the end of your own adolescence. By leaving the conclusion ambiguous, it reflects the uncertainty of real life. Will you defeat the "Bill"s of your own life, and flourish where countless others have failed or merely endured? Only you can decide.
The real ending is in your heart.
Bill won as soon as I found out about this show.
Yeah, it feels organic and captures that pacific northwest atmosphere but with an absurd variety and infinite amount of weirdness.
Mabel wasn't acting against her will or under someone else's influence. She was only "hypnotized" by the amount of distractions at her disposal.
Dipper almost fell into the same trap, but defied it. Mabel had the volition to do the same, but didn't.
Mabel didn't want to strip him completely of his dignity
Just of his shirt and pants.
why Dipper is the best character, guys? :')
A complete list of all Season 2 episode names...
Can't believe we've reached the day...
So glad it's a ONE HOUR series finale.
>THE POWER INSIDE
>LOCKED AWAY FOREVER
is a part of Bill's prophecy
of which the wheel is a part of?
What if these clues refer to Weirdmageddon's containment in Gravity Falls instead of Mabel's bubble?
"Yeah who would sacrifice everything they've worked for just to save their stupid sibling?"
mfw no one remembers sock puppet theatre
If Mabel hadn't done that then she would've been worse than what people already think of her.
She let Bill run loose in Dipper's body for a good while even after Dipper had told her what was going on.
It also doesn't help that she hardly learned anything from it and continued to put her needs over her brothers.
Joaje has no definition. Let me explain:
"Joaje" comes from a series of videos on YouTube called "Her Aim Is Getting Better" or "HAIGB" for short, by YouTube user "Enlarged Potato." These were YouTube poops of Gravity Falls. If you look back at the very first one, he uses the word "joke" from the "Her Aim" scene, trims it in half, stops the first part and deletes the second one, duplicates the first part and reverses it. Then they're put together as "joaje". Allow me to demonstrate:
Jo - ke (split in half)
Jo (first part)
Jo - jo (duplicated)
Jo - oj (duplicate part reversed)
Joaje (sound of both clips put together)
TL;DR: joke - ke = jo + oj = joaje
>Mabel, an evil demon has taken over my body and I'm left as an intangible ghost stranded in a different plane of existence!
>Well, yeah, I could help, but you know, we can't just stop the puppet show. After all it's more important than you.
Favorite Season 2 Episode Poll
>Stan spent years giving up his own life for Ford
>Ford is selfish as fuck, comes out of the portal angry and kicking Stan out of the house he maintained for longer then Ford even owned it
>Stan will do anything for his family
Stan is actually closer to Dipper instead of Mabel because of this
The "selfish egotistical" genes went into the normal twin, Mabel, instead of the smart one like Ford
Yeah, that's probably why the shooting star is on Ford's side instead of Stan's.
Mabel let go of her selfishness and saw the error of her ways, will Ford do the same?
I feel like I'm re-watching that episode of Malcom in the Middle where his mom is willing to sacrifice him and his smarts for his stupid older brother
I really liked Mabel at first but her non-stop selfish behavior has really turned me off from the show, especially Season 2. Dipper & Stan confirmed MVP
>Mabel let go of her selfishness
As if teen Mabel won't act exactly the same after they save the world.
>Shoving Ford into portal was Stan's fault to begin with. Yes, he atoned for it, well done. They are even now, discounting that one time he ruined his shot at good college.
ford go home, nobody likes you
You say that as if it was an isolated event 30 some years ago, but you have no idea what shit he might have been dealing with for that whole time up until like a month ago. It didnt "happen a long time ago," its been happening for a long time, and considering an infinite realm of bullshit he might have been put up against, I can see him being a bbit apprehensive to apologize.
Did you see what happened to Fiddleford when he only entered the portal for a very short amount of time?
It was traumatizing enough for him to fuck up his brain with the memory eraser.
If Stan had talked to his brother about how he felt instead of keeping his emotions bottled up and acting without thinking, none of this would have happened.
It's pretty easy to the play the blame game.
Note that even before the portal thing, Ford was an absolute cunt to his brother, which is exactly what sparked the fight that led to Stan accidentally pushing him into the portal. Stan was overjoyed to see his brother again after years oof being given the cold shoulder for something he didn't do, and Ford treats him like shit and tells him to go away the moment he has no use to him.
I can never understand how people can condemn Mabel her thoughtlessness and then in the same breath defend Ford, who is way worse than thoughtless and straight into the realm of intentionally hurtful and petty.
Ford didn't deserve that.
He just wanted to be an hero, which is why he likes fantasy tabletops like D,D&MD. Ford's fascinated with the idea of heros, villains, and "Our quest shall be our sweet reward".
Am I the only person here who doesn't hate any of the Pines?
Ford isn't dead though.
>I can never understand how people can condemn Mabel her thoughtlessness and then in the same breath defend Ford, who is way worse than thoughtless and straight into the realm of intentionally hurtful and petty.
Because I think Dipper should cut toxic Mabel influence off his life like Ford did. Both Stan and Mabel deserve to shuned and disowned by their siblings.
Ford's only mistake was calling Stan.
I'm with you anon. Flaws are a thing.
At least on /gfg/, yeah.
This. Gravity Falls started promising, but Mabel was a negative flaw that kept getting worse. In the end she being such a central character who was lousy ended up crippling the quality of the show. That isn't to say the show doesn't have other flaws, like Wendy being super pointless essentially.
But I digress, never let beta males like Alex Hirsch do anything.
Soos has a stronger connection to the Pines than Wendy.
They could've done a better job with Wendy. I don't think she's completely pointless.
The rivals (Pacifica and Robbie) were handled poorly though. I mean, Pacifica's redemption was decent but it's just odd that it was done by Dipper and not Mabel. Same for Robbie's except his redemption wasn't decent.
It is the way Ford goes about it. Dipper wanted a ghost hunting show on TV, and he wants to see the world and be admired by people. Ford wants to stay in a basement only going out to get samples and punch monsters, and as little contact with humanity as possible.
Ford's life would drive Dipper insane within a month. Two tops.
>The rivals (Pacifica and Robbie) were handled poorly though. I mean, Pacifica's redemption was decent but it's just odd that it was done by Dipper and not Mabel.
It's poetry! But really, she redeemed herself. And I guess Dipper redeemed himself from hating her.
>But really, she redeemed herself. And I guess Dipper redeemed himself from hating her.
That's true. I didn't really think of it like that.
I also guess they were trying to go with some sort of switcheroo by having each twin help the other's rival somehow.
>Isn't it cute how the twins handle each other's problems?
But it just feels odd when you have so many character focus episode between Pacifica and Mabel and Robbie and Dipper.
>The rivals (Pacifica and Robbie) were handled poorly though. I mean, Pacifica's redemption was decent but it's just odd that it was done by Dipper and not Mabel
I think what caused that was the fact that, well, Mabel didn't actually hate Pacifica anymore. Mabel seems really bad at hating people in general, really - she hurts people due to being thoughtless, not because she actually wants to hurt anyone. Dipper, though, still hated her. So having him turn around and give her a chance gave the episode more emotional gravitas.
I just want to see how she survived and made it to the cabin.
She's in the show's opening implying she matters but most of her involvement is actually aimless detached bullshit unachievable romance crap. It also hurts Wendy that she personally is highly DISINTERESTED in solving the supernatural mysteries. She only had like two occasions where she actively wanted to deal with the supernatural. So there you go. The character shouldn't have existed.
And just in case, the only reason /co/ would object to a female character being omitted from a show's production is MUH FAP! MUST PATHETICALLY FAP!
>It also hurts Wendy that she personally is highly DISINTERESTED in solving the supernatural mysteries.
That's a lot of characters, though. Like, even Mabel honestly doesn't give two shits about supernatural mysteries, mostly, unless they specifically affect her, and she's the coprotagonist. Most of the time she's just there to keep Dipper company.
The problem with Wendy is that she just never was given a chance to DO things. Soos got a couple episodes centering on him so he could do stuff, but Wendy got nothing.
>Not liking Mabel
She's nice and while she does have flaws, she does the best she can whenever she realizes her mistakes.
I think you're too cynical. Mabel's character is the chill pill man.
She's pretty chill and can give really good advice and is just fun to hang around with. The thing with Wendy is that she's too cool for the show.
He was willing to let her be terrorized by ghosts as well. He hates her and he never saw her human side before.
>It also hurts Wendy that she personally is highly DISINTERESTED in solving the supernatural mysteries.
I don't think it's true. She rarely appears but she's always supportive of Dipper when she does. Maybe even more supportive than Mabel.
She could've used some more screentime though.
>all that romance crap
Yeah, bad Alex.
>she mostly doesn't care for the supernatural.
I think that's a good distinguishing personality trait. But a little unbelievable, she's supposed to be an edgy reckless teen
Didn't a few days pass while part two was happening? Plus the last scene I saw of her mum was running away by herself.
>Mother of the fracking year folks.
Pacifica and her mom might have gotten separated by the running crowd.
Either that, or they both made it back to the mansion, it was clearly unsafe to stay, and Priscilla was too stubborn to leave it behind.
One joke doesn't make her a loser. But I would like to see more of canon her rather than having to figure out myself.
I feel that writers do have a coherent idea what she is like, but it rarely clear enough on the show.
It was never explained what Ford's apprenticeship would be like and even assuming what it would be like he sounds full of shit. He made it seem ike Ford was only a scientist and never a man of actio.
>Like, even Mabel honestly doesn't give two shits about supernatural mysteries, mostly
I feel people sometimes forget this. Mabel is not really a mysteryhead like Dipper. She just goes in the mystery hunts to have some fun with her brother. And half the time said hunts end up with her in peril and Dipper having to save her, which I imagine probably doesn't help build a love of adventure escapades.
>ruined his shot at good college.
>if Ford had listened to his brother about what happened
Ford and Dipper have to talk eventually.
Dipper has to tell Ford that he wants to cherish adolescence with Mabel, and when that's over, he'll be back in Gravity Falls. Pursuing his dream.
>her clothes get hit by a weird wave and come to life
>she was running around at the whole town without clothes until she found a sack
l-lewd, where's the drawfag when i need them?!
Are you the same guy that keeps using this?
Anyway, the emotional impact during the trial scene wasn't that good. It was actually really disappointing considering this was the moment where Mabel let's go and finally grows up a bit.
>Also... when you have the energy, could you do a Dipper version of the sweaty towel guy?
Here you go, anon.
This is it. Wendy would have been a great character if she had more screen time and got to do more things. I can remember Soos having 4 episodes that established his character, while the closest we got to a Wendy focus was the Cupid episode. We never even saw her family life. Hell, we got more of Pacifica's story than we got Wendy's
Absolutely perfect! Saved for reaction purposes.
Now we just need one for Wendy,
Mabel, Stan, Soos, Ford, Pacifica... Did you draw an uncropped version of this?
Keep being amazing BoyBox/Sweetscreen
>Did you draw an uncropped version of this?
Anyone else waiting
impatientlyfor the release of this piece from D&MvsTF?
Thank you, my curiosity is satisfied.
Still love it for bedroom-eyes Wendy and affectionate dialogue. Implications can do wonders.
Nope, im waiting for
You know what would make this better? If Wendy's tits were bigger
I just saw part 2.
It was good, very funny and the sibling memories were sweet.
However, I'm still a bit disappointed. It was a good episode but it didn't really seem like series conclusion stuff. Weirdmaggedon hasn't gotten sufficiently weird yet.
I would like to be scared a little bit
>ADVENTURES LASTLY DRAW TO A CLOSE
>PINES TWINS NOW LEAVING GRAVITY FALLS
>Honestly the worst part about this episode is that no one even tries to mention Bill or the apocalypse to Mabel.
False. They do.
Wendy tries to tell Mabel until she gets distracted by her friends.
>Uh, actually, Mabel, I'm with Dipper on this. Gravity Falls is in trouble and I really think-
>He would not, however, be a good caretaker.
It's not like Stanley was either. They both would be about the same.
We saw how Ford was willing to make a lightbulb for the twins and take time out of his work to play a game with Dipper.
That's not good reasoning at all.
In case anyone would like to remember the firsthand reaction to the episode. You can pretty much pinpoint exactly where everyone got pissed off.
How many teasers/trailers/promos/whatever are we going to get for the finale?
60 minutes means almost three episodes, so I predict three times the normal amount of promos, also I think they're going to start airing them much earlier than usual (so if the finale is set to air at the end of January, we'll start seeing promos in December)
I don't hate the character, but I wouldn't let him take care of my kids knowing what I do. He'd not only be a teacher but also the parental figure, and nothing I've seen so far indicates he would be up for that task.
Can he assess a situation ahead of time to determine whether or not it would be too dangerous? Could he discipline Dipper appropriately if he did something that warranted it? Does he know where the line between being a friend ends and being the parent begins? It's a tough job for those of us with experience. It would be a hell of a time for someone who has literally never spent time around young people.
I just wish there had been build-up to his decision, anything to show that he had been having second thoughts.
Dipper's been idolizing Ford this whole season, so him suddenly assuming that being his apprentice would be awful seemed really out of place. It made it seem like he was intentionally giving up on his interests just to make Mabel happy.
>so if the finale is set to air at the end of January
That's very optimistic, but I'm thinking March or later.
>60 minutes means almost three episodes
Most hour-long shows are ~45min of show, 15+min of commercials.
Given that we've got two end cards left, I'm betting it's 2 episodes aired back-to-back.
Probably more of a cliffhanger than other episodes, and Alex probably fought tooth and nail to get them aired together instead of 6 months apart.
Okay guys why the fuck is the download links jumbled up?
Why do you do this to me?!
>a doctorate degree or something of equal value in child rearing and development
Oh, anon. You'll understand one day. All the reading and studying doesn't prepare you, at best it just help you better deal with what's to come. Children/teens don't come with equations or algorithms, sadly.
I dont think he'd do much worse then Stan honestly. We havent seen him with them as long but from what we have seen i think he can handle one smart, good kid like Dipper no problem.
He's not a bad caretaker, or at least any worse than Stanley. I'm not really sure why this is even being discussed.
He hasn't treated Dipper or Mable coldly at all. We saw the way he treated Dipper in the Dungeons episode, and the way he treated Mabel in the Mabelcorn episode. He's fine.
Here ya go, newfriend.
Just paste the links and hit uncover. It's a road block so Disney doesn't find 'em all simple-like and have the episodes pulled down.
To be fair, I wouldn't leave my child with Stan, either.
Ford technically has the intellectual capacity to care for Dipper, but I don't think he even sees him as a child. More like a mini version of himself. Treating a kid with the respect of an adult is far different than treating one AS and adult.
Ford has no delusions about Dippers age and capacity. He even refers to him as a younger version of himself, he knows not to expect much more from him. Or if he does then i trust Dipper to tell him such. I think they'd get along great even in a more caregiver / teach role instead of just the relative he looks up to.
Honestly it just makes me want a series with them even more.
>I'm thinking March or later
God, no. Just fucking no. But I know Disney is actually capable of doing this. Their scheduling is downright disrespectful and disgraceful.
>Given that we've got two end cards left, I'm betting it's 2 episodes aired back-to-back.
Someone from the production crew confirmed 22 episodes for Season 2 earlier this year.
In this case 21 episodes would have end cards, and the last episode, 22, would be without one (because there is room for only 21 on the puzzle).
Seeing as we got 19 regular episodes, it's pretty clear to me that the remaining episodes 20, 21 and 22 were condensed into one huge episode and it'd fit the scheme of "2 episodes with end cards, one without an end card". I'm betting 60 minutes of content without commercials.
>He hasn't treated Dipper or Mable coldly at all
Oh, he certainly hasn't treated them badly, but being a good caretaker means more than being nice. It's deciding what is best for your charge. The beginning of M&DvtF suggests to me that he can be reckless about what he drags Dipper into.
Wendy & Dipper each other.
I would wager that mum abandoned Pacifica for her own sake..Would fit her personality.
>Disney is actually capable of doing this.
Pic related was made right after NWHS aired, and turned out to be overly optimistic.
It's gonna be a lonnnggg Winter.
They might even air it in June.
"Summer in Gravity Falls is ending, but Summer is just heating up on DISNEY XD!">>77799435
>Someone from the production crew confirmed 22 episodes for Season 2 earlier this year.
I hope that wasn't a mistake. 60 continuous minutes of Gravity Falls would be fantastic.
There will never be an episode where Wendy & Dipper win the annual Gravity Falls eating contest together.
They will never over-use Soos's infinite Pizza slice. http://gravityfalls.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=34985
I guess you could say
his pecker is rock hard
>Wendy will never
belch in your face as you squish your face against her stuffed gut, listening to her sounds of digestion
Can't argue there. It's rather bizarre how you can get so attached to a character that your parental instincts can kick in when something goes down onscreen. Another kind of projection, I suppose.
Season 1's winter break (the wait between Summerween and Boss Mabel) was 134 days
Season 2's first winter break (the wait between The Love God and Northwest Mansion Mystery) was 83 days
I'd say we're getting the finale in February for sure.
I probably should have left these as two different pics. The don't mesh together well, neither vertically nor horizontally. Oh, well.
>Ford has no delusions about Dippers age and capacity.
>He even refers to him as a younger version of himself
That in itself is delusional. Dipper is different from Ford in a number of very important ways. And when Ford assumes Dipper will react just as he does to dangerous, high pressure situations, he puts Dipper at risk.
The most damning Dipper-Ford moment so far, in my opinion, is the one where they're first confronted by the security drone in the ruins of the ship. Because Ford sees Dipper as his mini-me, he expected Dipper to be capable of controlling his thoughts in the same way he does--with disastrous and confidence shaking results for Dipper. Anyone who'd spent some time with Dipper, really looking at him and paying attention to how he reacts, would have known the kid's high strung and has a hard time calming down on command. Ford proved in that moment he's blind to Dipper's personality and needs beyond what he can identify of himself in him.
>he knows not to expect much more
On the contrary, I think that leads him to expect too much of Dipper--or at least to expect Dipper to respond in ways he's not typically inclined to. He holds Dipper to the same exacting standards he measures himself by. Just think of the scene where he was captured by the security drone. He legitimately expected Dipper to coolly write him off and prioritize the safety of the Rift. That's an attitude a battle hardened adult might take, but expecting a naive kid, one for whom family is extremely important, to think similarly is ridiculous.
Ford can't see the differences in Dipper because he's too busy projecting himself wholesale--kid self, teen self, adult self; the works---onto him. That's not clearheaded at all.
I'm pretty sure Stan has gotten the kids mixed up in dangerous shit too, dont act like hes been a hazard to their safety on multiple occasions. Like even having them at the shack in the first place.
Well, yes. That's why he's not a good candidate to be the sole caretaker of a child. Having reasonably high expectations based on a clear assessment of potential is one thing. In the right circumstances, that encourages kids to excel. But being ignorant of Dipper's true capabilities, to the point of putting him at risk, is another thing altogether.
Neither Ford nor Stan are particularly good guardian material. Which isn't surprising, given what kind of father they had.
Although he strives to keep the kids out of danger and does seems to recognize they need some protection (at least when the plot allows for it), Stan's parenting methods are equally questionable in other ways. If it hadn't been for Dipper's visit to Stan's Mindscape in Dreamscaperers, who knows how long Dipper would have gone on resenting Stan for his unfair treatment. How differently would the rest of the summer have gone if it weren't for that convenient insight into Stan's motives?
Picture unrelated, I just like this face.
I think Ford could still learn, he's not an idiot. If he sees that Dipper isnt up to his expectations he could lighten up on him or even just tell him. What they're doing isnt safe to begin with, he never said it would be easy, or non-threatening. He knows the risks, Dipper does too. You cant put Ford in that kind of normal parent mindset when that's not what the point of the apprenticeship is about, it's not what the show is about.
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Oh man you have no idea, I have a whole folder
>I think Ford could still learn, he's not an idiot. If he sees that Dipper isnt up to his expectations he could lighten up on him or even just tell him
The thing is, I'm not sure Ford would see it; or at least, not any time soon. Maybe over time, with enough failures, Ford would begin to understand Dipper better. But it wouldn't come naturally to him.
Of course Ford's brilliant, but booksmarts don't always translate into social intelligence. In general, he seems to have a lot of blind spots when it comes to understanding other people. The severity of his falling out with Stan proved that, even after living together for 17 or so years, he still didn't really 'get' Stan.
And expecting Dipper to admit he's not up to anything is right out. If there's one thing Dipper has been consistent about throughout the show, it's his eagerness to impress. Whether it was Wendy's friends, his own family, or a rich brat he doesn't even like, he's always gone above and beyond to come off as capable. Add that to Dipper's idolization of Ford, and I can easily picture Dipper slipping into a pattern of struggling in silence to meet Ford's expectations.
>You cant put Ford in that kind of normal parent mindset when that's not what the point of the apprenticeship is about,
It is, though. Ford isn't just signing on to mentor Dipper from 9 to 5. He's also offering to become Dipper's full time guardian. He would have to fulfill a parental role as well an educational one.
>it's not what the show is about.
I think it's fair game for discussion. There's a hell of a lot more nuance to the familial relationships in the show than in most other cartoons.
If the show was about a normal family striving to be normal it wouldnt even be Gravity Falls. Mabel maybe wants that but Dipper has always been curios about exploring the weird and supernatural. Stan isnt the kind of figure any parent would leave their children with and yet we go along with it anyway.
We can assume that D&M's parents think Stanley IS Ford, he took his identity and everything, unbeknownst as far as WE know, to most people. This would mean Dipand Mabels parents would assume stan is ford and not wory about his shenanigans sending them over to him fuck i cant type ihave jizz on my hand
I'm going to mourn this show like a best friend.
Doesnt that kind of imply that Dipper and Mabel's parents at least trust Ford enough to watch their kids? Not sure where the arguement against Ford comes from all considered. The worst we've seen so far is that incident with the drone, meanwhile Stan has had them involved in all kinds of dangerous, criminal, and hazerdous activity and no one's arguing against his right to have both, let alone just one.
Oh nah I thought you WERE talking about stan. yeah ford is just a little wacky, X years away from our normal universe will do that. The guy sees potential in dipper but the only way he knows how to unlock it is to force him in the same ways he was forced when he first encountered the paranormal
Hard to determine. I think it's definitely possible, but people with high intellect can sometimes have similar traits. It also wouldn't surprise me if Stan had ADD and a mild learning disability (the impression I get is that he can be pretty darn smart, but I struggles in some areas and has trouble focusing on something he's not motivated to do.)
>I'm officially done with the series.
redpill me on this general, /gfg/
give me sort of a tldr, what are discussions like, how is the crowd, what is general consensus among you on the show and the latest episodes in particular?
i've only just finished marathoning it and it makes me a bit sad that i missed all the memery and the show is nearly over.
That's the thing, if this had been filler I'd have thought of it as weak filler like The Love God or Roadside attraction, but as the penultimate episode it was really a let down. Especially as a Mabel fan. She is my favorite and she was so shitty in this episode.
I'm the anon you were replying to, and I pretty much agree with everything >>77803719 said. Mabel's my favorite character and I thought she really was going to live up to that insane God-tier promo art
>or Roadside Attraction
Roadside Attraction is a few steps below "weak filler" The writing was so fucking godawful it's no wonder Alex prefaced it by saying "hey guys, this isn't really canon!"
Truly, the only thing wrong with RA is it wasn't a straight Mabel-Dipper episode. If they had leaned more on the Mabel side of things it wouldn't have suffered because as we've seen time and time again, there is no better excuse to fuck Dipper over than to have it be advantageous for Mabel. Take away that Mabel side of things and people start to notice how shit Dipper has it.
The only reason I ever came to the general was to express my pedophilic adulation for Mabel.
>"hey guys, this isn't really canon!"
>implying continuity-free == non-canon
Your meme is shit.
Why the hell would you do anything for a Klondike bar? Legitimate question, it's a really average ice cream product and I don't get how they can market themselves entirely on asking people what stupid hoops they'd jump through just to get their hands on one.
How do you feel about Wendy's big and embarrassingly stinky feet?
They aren't. Dipper is 2D and they don't smell
unless you want them tocause he's perfect shota.
>Fake Bill figures this out
>So pissed off at real Bill that he teams up with the good guys to break out together
>Fight against real Bill
>Fake Bill about to get Fatality'd
>One of the good guys sacrifices themselves to save fake Bill because none of them are powerful enough to beat real Bill without him
>Fake Bill and the remaining good guys seal real Bill forever
>Fake Bill watches over Gravity Falls as its protector after learning the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
Nah, Bill's dying by chance as the righteous philosophy foretold.
I guess with the show coming to an end, the haters are coming out in droves.
It wasn't even bad. It's just that there were so many missed opportunities to make it incredible, and they fucked up by not establishing IMMEDIATELY that Mabel was under hypnotic influence.
Seriously, if you just established that within the first five minutes, this episode would have been a lot more enjoyable, rather than Mabel acting like a cunt the whole way through, with a quick resolution at the end about how she was under control.
Screw the negativity. Here's another cute group picture.
Get ready for that to get inverted horribly if Ford gets turned back to normal and finds out Mabel unquestioningly gave the rift away
I'm sure he'll understand to some degree the circumstances, but there's no doubt he'll be beyond cheekpained
Just wait until the reconciliation. You don't want it to happen, but it will. Rest assured, it will.
>implying they'll have time to even mention mabel responsible for the rift breaking in rushedmageddon.
Ford already said he was responsible for this happening. They aren't going to touch upon it again.
If its anything like Dipper's promise to Gideon, I dont think it will be even mentioned.
And have her sometimes realize what she's doing, and when she goes to pay Dipper to not speak of this, she again realizes she has no money, and goes back to sobbing into Dipper's arms/chest
>Ford said he was responsible
>At this point they only think the rift broke in the backpack, and not that it was explicitly smashed by Bill after it was handed to him by Mabel after he simply asked her to
>They have made it painfully obvious that the only characters who know how Weirdmageddon started are Mabel and Bill
>Everyone else assumes something out of anyone's control was the reason the apocalypse is happening
Nigga, the signs are all there, they WILL at least mention it, if not devote 10 minutes to the issue to solve it in a satisfying way
He may get treated ridiculously unfairly compared to other characters, but he is not without sin.
>Is prepared to leave everyone at the NorthWest mansion todie because of shit that happened hundreds of years ago.
>Is willing to let Pacifica be killed at the golf course because she's snobby
>Nearly gets everyone killed by raising the dead to show off to the agents.
>Nearly gets everyone killed by pissing off the Summerween demon, throwing away all his sister's hard work for him, all for the chance to stand in the corner of a party his never-will-be girlfriend will be.
>Makes a deal with Bill's actual form (remember how much everyone shits on Mabel for dealing with Bill under cover?) and using his sister's stuff to bargain with.
>Was willing to get himself, his sister, grunkle, and everyone else kicked out of the Shack because of a hissy-fit in Dreamscapers.
>Rituallistically mocks Thompson to fit in.
>Records every single time he beats his sister in anything to make her feel like shit.
>Sends a fighting master to beat the shit out of a teen
Hell, I love Dipper, but he's not really that great a person.
If he didnt find the journal, Stan would still be twiddling his thumbs.
Also, sudden moral chart. What would you change?
Well, considering how much they've established Bill entering reality as being the worst possible thing that could happen, having a character make that happen solely because they don't know what they're doing and they want something for themselves is a pretty big thing to overlook
Then again I wouldn't be surprised if Mabel doesn't even get a sliver of blame in all this considering what she represents
One could argue if Dipper hadn't left the rift in his bag Mabel wouldn't given it away, but yeah Mabel shouldn't have given away something that wasn't hers on top of not knowing what it was
Yep. That promo art really makes it look like the episode is going to trip your heart out, or at least really dig deep into Mabel's character. Have some emotional stuff. Instead, we really don't get that at all. Mabel doesn't even show much emotion the whole episode. Compare that to the incredibly emotional end of DaMvtF. This was the resolution to that, and it was so, so weak. Actually, the resolution was literally an afterthought tacked onto the very end of the episode. All the shit that just happened isn't even discussed.
There was so goddamn much potential there that was squandered.
You're not the only one. I chalk any annoyance to them being human. Humans are assholes in some way or another. "Nobody's perfect" is a damned understatement. Honestly, Mabel and Ford's selfishness isn't even all that outrageous. Love, happiness, and a dream school aren't even close to the douchiest motives.
Charlattes has the cutest everything.
Dipper didn't really get tested or grow in Weirdmageddon II, either. The resolution was the same as it was last episode and in Northwest Manor: he gives a little speech. Actually, those episodes were more impressive because of who he was giving the speeches to.
This whole episode dramatically lowered the stakes. First, we find out the apocalypse is only even in one little town, most people have no fucking idea, since status quo is god. Then, the characters go from being reallt emotionally effected by everything and put through the ringer in the last two episodes to not seeming fazed. The result is that while Dipper and Mabel vs the Future hyped you up, this hypes you down going into the last episode.
Another season and Gravity Falls would've rivaled Twin Peaks total runtime. I guess if you don't include the non-Lynch half of the second season it might equal out.
>Well, considering how much they've established Bill entering reality as being the worst possible thing that could happen, having a character make that happen solely because they don't know what they're doing and they want something for themselves is a pretty big thing to overlook
If she actually knew the importance of the rift or knew she was making a deal with Bill I could see it being important.
She gave it to Blendin who promised her an endless summer where she doesn't have to grow up and Weirdmageddon 2 already covered that.
Do you think Stan has STDs? I mean, he was homeless. Had numerous relationships that did not last. And also had some bad habits (had a zippo at reach when was about to burn the journal in ATOTS).