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ITT: villains who literally did nothing wrong

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ITT: villains who literally did nothing wrong
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He was fired why again?
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>>77757965
Technically he "won." Disney and their bullshit political correct propaganda shit cannot erase what happened in American History to the Native Americans.
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>>77758189
Because he tried to harm a little girl?
Alien Cops need to keep up good publicity
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You call that Slaughtering Indians?
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He was perfectly justified in trying to protect the townspeople from the Beast.

The trying to emotionally blackmail Belle stuff is douchy, but not something he deserved to die over.
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>>77757965
He didnt find gold or take advantage of the other natural resources.
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>>77758268
He was clearly doing it out of jealousy
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Gypsies were thieves, cutthroats, rapists, and illegal immigrants. Burning down some houses in Paris was an acceptable loss, in order to save all of France.
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>>77758268
>trying to murder the beast after he knew he meant no harm
Nah.
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>>77758298
Never believe crocodile tears Anon
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A surprising number of Samurai Jack "villains" did nothing wrong.
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>>77757965
>nothing wrong
>tried to negotiate with savages

Also:
>>77758294
>save France
>implying France is worth saving
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>>77758294
>Burning down some houses in Paris was an acceptable loss in order to calm down his boner
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>>77758329
This guy just turned about to be a Fat Weaboo
I kinda wanted him to appear again
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>>77758329

Weren't most of them on Aku's payroll? Sure, to them, Aku's just the Head Honcho of Earth. But even they wouldn't say he's a nice guy.
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>>77758233
The most he could be charged with was taking a human out of its habitat.
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>>77758364
Sure, but with Aku's propaganda and direct threats their motives are pure. Pic related was just stopping a well-known terrorist and trying to save his dog.

And it's also like that "contractors on the Death Star" thing from Clerks.
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>>77758208
I wonder if his country and Weaseltown suffered after the events of the movie?
Lack of trade and shit
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>>77758340
This is not the kind of post for which it is worth coming here.
But this is the kind of post that makes me feel like it's worth coming here.
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>>77758448

Weselton! WESELTON you son of a bitch.
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>>77758444
Being too prideful to accept when you've lost is, in fact, the mark of a poor leader.
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>>77758444
especially in the bible
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>>77758480

He's been trying to do bad all his life. Do motives count?
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>>77758361
I wanted too he was a good character, and would have been an amazing foil and aprentice for Jack.

>>77758329
Isnt kind of implyed that the bounty hunters are just a bunch of killer hobos? Trying to kill the savior of earth for money is at least being a douche.

But fuck it, I loved each one of them.

And its true, a lot of people that Jack fight are sympatethic, it just make everything more sweet.
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>another anti-Pocahontas thread
>DID NOTHING WRONG theme

Oh gee, I wonder who's behind this thread
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>>77758632
Ben Carson pls go
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>>77758444
God didn't force Ramses heart to harden, Ramses hardened his own heart because he couldn't handle the fact that he was usurped by Yahweh.
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Pic related snatched from another thread, but seriously look at this poor guy.

He literally became SANTA for crying out loud.

I mean yeah, he's a tiny bit ego centric, but when you survive a piece of iron being permanently burned onto your face, and still go about, trying to make the world a better place in all they ways you see right? You've earned that fucking pride.
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>>77758332
Nah anon, I think Clay did a lot of things wrong.
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With all the /pol/ack scum here, I'm surprised no one celebrates the most righteously-portrayed nationalist ever.
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>>77758189
He was transporting an exotic species off-world.
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>>77758763

>Kuvira did nothing wrong

Attacking a sovereign country because of a "muh clay" claim when you're already the largest nation in the world is wrong. Not even from a moral standpoint, it's just such a retarded maneuver I can't fathom how much petrol she had to huff before she thought it was a good idea.
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>>77758812
Would've been a better plot if she tried to attack all the Air Temples in Earth Kingdom Territory, less blatant city destruction, wouldn't need that stupid robot, would get to see Tenzin go ham against Kuvira's finest.
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>>77758695
you sound like a sissy
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>>77758812
>>77758856

The overall Earth Kingdom sentiment against the United Republic was already well established (see Hou-Ting).

So Kuvira was pretty much entertaining her nation. Which is a valid position to take, if strategically unsound.
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>>77758856

Would've been a better plot if they had an extra season to depict Kuvira's rise and vilification. As it stands, I went into Season 4 going "oh, that one chick who was in two episodes of the last season." And that only because I was watching Korra all at once because I was a latecomer. I suspect for people who had to wait for the season they were like "who?"
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Kent Mansley was just trying to protect his planet and country from invaders.
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>>77758913
So you posture against them a la China and Taiwan. You don't actually invade.
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>>77758935
He didn't give a damn about the US.
He just wanted to avenge his car
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>>77758935
SCREW MY COUNTRY, I WANNA LIVE
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>>77758913

It was wrong because it risked provoking the Fire and Water Nations coming to defend the UR. Fire Nation? Remember those guys? Absolutely raped the Earth Kingdom a couple decades back? And who have even better technology now? Never mind that Lightning Bending is an industrial skill which no longer requires decades of training and meditation, and you're fighting in GIANT METAL SUITS.

If it were me I'd be horrified at the prospect of drawing the Fire Nation into a conflict against me.
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>>77759017

Earth Kingdom citizens are sturbbon and moronic. If anything they'd be signing their way into petty revenge as they always have through ATLA.
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>>77759060

Yeah, but Kuvira isn't a citizen regardless of her official title. She's the leader of a nation. She done wrong.
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>>77758379
That's a federal space crime.
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>>77759121
What was his name again?
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>>77758673

Funny enough, it says that in the original hebrew/greek versions of the bible. So you're on point
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>>77759121
LORD MOLDYBUTT
LORD MOLDYBUTT
LORD MOLDYBUTT
LORD MOLDYBUTT
LORD MOLDYBUTT
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>>77757965
How about "Villains who did nothing wrong?"
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>>77758955
The PRC would have invaded Taiwan decades ago if not for the US defending the ROC. A big part of the Taiwan Straits Crises was the PRC testing US resolve. It's not just posturing, it's checking to see whether or not it will be safe to invade.
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>>77759155
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>>77758695
Clay was the most vile, fake, vicious-hearted little bastard ever stop-motioned...
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>>77758215
>yfw no matter what they say or do they can't bring the Indians or Trayvon Martin back
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>>77759223
Isn't Peter dying a good thing?
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>>77758763
I'm okay with your assessment.
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>>77758430
>contractors on the Death Star
I wonder if contractors have to worry about crap like that.
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>>77758233
She was brown though so it's cool
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>>77759142
Benedict Cumberbatch.
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>>77759181
And the same is true for the Earth Nation, like >>77759017 said.
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>>77759130
Yep. You just won.
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/co/ seems to hate her, but marriage is difficult, and Jerry doesn't usually make it any easier.
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>>77758294
Gypsies were pretty awful, but that doesn't stop the fact that he did everything because he was in love with her and was jealous of his freakish mutant son and not because of the fact that she was a gypsy. Not to mention he was kinda a dick to Quasimodo. At least in the book he deserved his death, since he got her killed and laughed at her hanging. Not exactly sure what happens in the movie though, I haven't seen it in ages.
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>>77759331
>marriage is difficult
It shouldn't be. The fact is that they're both horrible people.
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>>77759331

I wouldn't call Beth a villain, really. I also don't think she's done anything wrong but she's on a ruinous path in season 2, man.
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>>77759331
Also. I lost when she accidentally pegged Summer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcDt5qx_-ig
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Fun fact: This movie's opening scene had to be rewritten several times because they couldn't come up with a real way to justify the king taking the flower without looking like the bad guy.
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>>77758534
The things he attempts to do are minor unconviences at best.

He had a tragic backstory too so there's a motive, especially when your brother is more loved than you
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>>77759331
She's just a broken person. I have no idea why she gets so much hate.
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>>77758480
Doofenshmirtz had evil intentions, but the fact that he didn't do anything wrong was mostly because of sheer unluckiness (and because he's generally a big softie).
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>>77759361
>It shouldn't be
The kind of fairy tale marriages where both people are 100% on the same page all the time, and everything is perfectly smooth and simple are just that: fairy tale marriages. Even between two good people who are reasonably compatible, it takes a lot of work to keep a healthy marriage.
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>>77759407
He created a satellite that literally destroyed love.
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>>77758971
>Here's the power to kill a god
>Killing gods is bad, I kill you now

Heliod did everything wrong.
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>>77759401
>Kidnapped a baby because they used a flower that really wasn't yours anyway
>Stabs her "daughters" husbandfu

Anyone who went against best Princess is a villain
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>>77759514
She'd have disintegrated if she didn't kidnap the baby.
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>>77757965

He's the only reason the Autobots actually made it as far as they did. Optimus a shit.
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>>77759361
Have you ever been internally conflicted? If the answer is yes, how can you expect two different people to be able to be on the same page all of the time? If your own thoughts can fight with each other, of course two married people will fight.
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>>77759589
Prick
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>>77759384
>I lost when she accidentally pegged Summer
Oh Ohhhhhh
Oh, I checked the video. I was picturing something completely different.
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>>77759514
>husbandfu
Husbandfu? Really?
It's husbando, or do you write "waifu" as "waifdo"?
You like trannies, right?
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>>77759507
Regardless of the circumstances the rules are the rules.

Interesting take on a monowhite villian
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>>77759637
You are not alone...
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>>77758294

>illegal immigrants
>in that century

You just went full retard.
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>>77759705

Nerver forget the classics like Augustin IV.
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To this day there is still no good argument for him being wrong.
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>>77759779

There's no more classical than Radiant.
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>>77759690
I didn't know the guy version so googled husbandfu and it didn't correct me. I was just trying to be cool so you'd like me :(
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>>77759559
>Explain their daughter has magic powers now
>Offer to teach her how to properly use them

Then she gets to live forever but this time in a castle.

Wait, did the King and Queen know if she was magic? Or did they just accept the whole blonde thing?
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>>77758361
>>77758593
Just imagine him, Jack and the Scottsman just hanging out together fighting Aku. It could've been the greatest Freedom Fighting trio the world has ever seen. It would've been glorious.
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All he wanted was a historically accurate faire.
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>>77757965
Reminder that the real Ratcliffe literally did nothing wrong, and got skinned alive then burned alive. And then Disney told kids everywhere to hate him and spit on his grave by making him a fat, ugly faggot who wanted genocide for gold.
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>>77759855
Shhh, it's okay, you tried your best. If you really want to be cool, though...
*unzips dick*
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>>77758448
I like to think the King of the Southern Isles punishing Hans by making him a pooper-scooper was meant to try to stay in Arendelle's good graces.
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>>77760362
Especially since there is a witch who can create living monstrosities and shroud an entire country with snow
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>>77759559
Everything has it's time and everything dies.
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>>77758632
>Waagh the guy who saved the world 50 billion times yelled at me to save his cousin, I better join some clandestine illegal and ethically revolting organization to compensate for it
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>>77758215
Ironically his real counterpart tried to be diplomatic and fair with the Natives apparently.
They cut off his face and burned him alive.
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>>77758208
This movie generated so much autism.
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>>77758294
>were
They still are. Fuck gypsies bring this guy back.
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>>77760441
Well... I also like to think no one really believes the far-fetched tales coming from Arendelle.

What IS Arendelle's chief export anyway? Wikipedia says crude oil and petroleum based products.
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>>77760508
Ice.
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>>77757965
Fuck off with your Troll threads /tv/
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He wanted to make humanity stronger and protect us against disease and injury.
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>>77758763

Kuriva had a reason to do what she did

Stop and think about this for a second. Ba Sing Se is now under the control of Zaofu.

DO YOU WANT SUYIN TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF BA SING SE RESTORATION PROJECT?!

APPARENTLY THE AVATAR DOES

REBELLION WAS NOT ONLY NEEDED IT WAS AN ABSOLUTION
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>>77759401
They succeeded. I'm curious how hard they went at first if they found it that difficult to make her villainous.
I guess the dying wife angle wasn't there...but no, then there's no reason for Rapunzel to have powers.
>>77759914
Or hell she could've just pretended singing to the flower was a ritual only she could do to heal the wife.
But sunday quarterbacking.
>>77759960
But he was apparently actually paying the chicks shit plus it was wildly inaccurate.
Dude was just a dick on a powertrip and he made the mistake of interferring with the constant powertrip that is Peggy Hill's delusion.
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He just need company and someone to love him.
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>>77760600
I want the entire TLA cast done in Castlevania!Kojima's art style now.
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>>77760643
Is Soundwave not good enough?
I could see them take care of Ravage and Laserbeak together
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>>77760673

>Asami will never angerly throw a wine glass on the ground and call Mako a miserable pile of secrets and lies
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>>77760621
>They succeeded. I'm curious how hard they went at first if they found it that difficult to make her villainous.
Initially, the flower actually belonged to Gothel and it was something she kept in her castle. The first draft had the king sending his men to steal it from her by force. Next they tried making him ask nicely before stealing it, but he still ultimately ended up stealing the thing.
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He's just misunderstood.
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>>77758454

i like your post but i too feel like you do not belong here
if you come for shit like that
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>>77758688
Nah, fuck that guy. Still not as douchy as Blu tho.
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>>77758935
>impersonating a military general's order
>approving the launch of a nuke targeted at your exact coordinates
>potentially vaporizing thousands of innocent people
>did nothing wrong
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Seriously, considering the psychopaths in Gotham, they NEED a hardass like him to terrify the supervillains and destroy their spirits. And he worked with Scarecrow! The guy wanted out and to never go back, he was on the road to recovery and Batman fucked it all up!
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>>77760041
>unzips dick
>not unzips fly

O N E J O B
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>>77760958
Maybe, and it's just me talking, but maybe what we need is a competent staff that isn't corrupt.
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>>77760990
is this bait?
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>>77760958

Didn't this man lose his mind in Arkham Asylum, made an inside deal with The Joker and then was able to let the Blackgate Prisoners kills all the officials in the building?

Fuck this guy he stands for the worst parts of Batman's obsession
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>>77759331
Jerry did nothing wrong and i wish they stopped purposly making him a pathetic asshole when he was a cool dad when the show started
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>>77761019
I don't know, are you biting? :))
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>>77758935
WHERE'S THE GIANT MANSLEY?
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>>77757965
He wanted to take the Chef Gusteau name and put it on frozen food- what's wrong with that? Wolfgang Puck and Mario Batalli have lines of frozen food too. He just wanted to take a failing restaurant into a new direction.

He tries to stop his restaurant from being infested by rats, and then he gets fired after all his years of hard work.
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Literally nothing wrong.
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>>77758189
He wasn't good at his job.
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>>77761426
Something about it not really being Gusteau's style
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>>77761426
Well he was fired for hiding the letter to Linguini more likely.
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>>77759152
sauce
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>>77761616
Also, Wolfgang Puck and Mario Batalli were alive to give consent to the use of their name and likeness.
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>>77760799
Oh, that's not what I'm coming for.
What I meant exactly, was that those kinds of posts are not what I come for, but are what make me enjoy my stay more.
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>>77761516
>Nothing wrong.
Dipshit wore a cape.
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>>77761426
first one that makes sense.
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>>77761616
The Gusteau that disagreed was a figment of Remys imagination, we have no clue if he'd have done it.
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>>77759589
Muh nigga. Should have let him execute all the cons when they had the chance. Now look what happened.
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>>77758616
Go collect your welfare sitting jackass
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>>77757965
>>77758189
>>77758208
>>77758294
They all did one thing wrong: they lost.
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All he wanted was the pirates treasure
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>>77759121
sir mushroom rump
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>>77758444
He refused to acknowledge the existence of God multiple times out of pride.
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>>77761716

How fucking stupid is everyone in that universe to not just have capes break away under a certain weight load? Like holy fuck they dont have to be death traps if you can design them properly.
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>>77760033
>mfw reading the details of what was done to him
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>>77758688
Fuck that guy
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>>77760457
I think it was when Superman yelled at him that he realized what a threat Superman could be.

>>77760904
>see pic

>>77762514
No, dude was kind of a dick in real life too.
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>>77758189
Don't worry, he was rehired.

Also, wasn't Gantu almost 100 times Stitch's size in the movie?
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>>77762826
Yeah, but he was a dick to the Aztecs, so it's okay.
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>>77760621
>But he was apparently actually paying the chicks shit plus it was wildly inaccurate.
>Dude was just a dick on a powertrip and he made the mistake of interferring with the constant powertrip that is Peggy Hill's delusion
And Peggys arrogance got his fair shutdown which cost how many people their jobs? All for what six women? She had an unfair beef with the guy that destroyed the livelihood of dozens of people and cost local merchants business
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>>77759179
I don't really get why some people think that Jasper isn't redeemable. She's a lawful good character, she's subduing last remnants of a terrorist cell. Not killing, subduing. She could've crushed Ruby and Sapphire if she wanted to but instead just threw em in separate cells like any smart person would.
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He's often the antagonist, but to be fair, it's usually Spongebob who started it accidentally.
Dude just wants to be left alone. I hate how in television they show
>anyone can be won over with love. Just keep trying!
Hey Arnold! did it best with pigeon man, admitting that some people aren't people people.

>>77763015
This. She even said something like 'I respected your tactics' about Rose. If you were watching from the point of homeworld, you'd be rooting for her

>>77762995
Peggy's your average midwest housewife. Try going to a church full of them for most of your life.
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>>77758918
Speaking as someone who watched the whole season play out, she was given fairly conspicuous attention with that one shot in season 3 ("My name is... Kuvira"), so we all knew she'd end up being important, but from my experience we all thought she'd turn out to be a member of the Red Lotus or something.

Like, all the discussion in the immediate aftermath of season 3 was fans predicting who'd be in the Red Lotus, with a lot of people betting on Varrick or Suyin. When the synopsis for Season 4 came out, it took me a second to remember who Kuvira was. I was still hoping at least Red Lotus Suyin would work her way in somehow.
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>>77763067

I like the way greg put it "there's no such thing as a good war"

When you think about it the gems only destroy worlds to further their race. What confuses me is that I swear they detailed to the harvesting of worlds and they they can only do it if there's no intelligent life, but what changed?
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>>77762514
>Nothing wrong

He brought back too much gold to Spain and completely ruined its value, causing the economy to crash and burn.

Although, that's more so Spain's fault than Cortes' fault by introducing the gold into the economy too quickly.
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>>77759626

Fuck off Walky. Your wiki isnt funny.

Wikis are supposed to have objective information and be free of personal biases. Two things your stupid wiki fail at repeatedly
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>>77763608
too much gold is never enough gold
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>>77759229
Good, I don't want him to represent me at all
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>>77760958
Who is this guy again?
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>>77760568
Fuck off reptilian
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>>77759350
>Not exactly sure what happens in the movie though, I haven't seen it in ages.
Claims Esmeralda bewtiched him, arrests Phoebus, Quasimodo, and the Court of Miracles and tries to execute them en masse while attempting to burn Esmeralda at the stake after she refuses to become his fucktoy.
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>>77758268
Trying to get an innocent man (belle's dad) declared insane and committed to an asulym was more than just douchy though, esp. considering how horrid and inhumane asulyms were at the time
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>>77762210
>>77758514

It's not really prideful. If 50%+ of your labor force left overnight, your country would already be in the shitter. It makes more sense to call our your lunatic brother's claims that he was visited by a foreigner's God as a burning bush than to knowingly damn your own country.
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>>77758294
>Gypsies were thieves, cutthroats, rapists, and illegal immigrants
>Were
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>>77759361
You're either 13 or have very little experience of irl human relationships and base your understanding of relationships Disney happily ever after cartoons and romantic comedies. Or both. Seriously that's a ridiculous statement. Humans are complicated and flawed beings and a decades-long relationship takes a lot of work, because people grow and change all the time, novelty wears off, situations change, emotions don't freeze at the position they are at 'I do'
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>>77763067

>anyone can be won over with love. Just keep trying!
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All he wanted was to go home.Well, that, and for Barry to right his wrongs.

It's not his fault Barry was too fucking stupid to take the chance he was given.
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>>77759350

Quasimodo wasn't his kid. Also, in the book it's implied that Quasimodo was the son of a gypsy who stole Esmeralda and left him in her stead.

The gypsies weren't sympathetic. Like, at all.
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>>77758789

No forgiveness.
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>>77757965

I was so pissed at the end. Balto's an asshole.
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>>77761426
The rat thing is perfectly justified, and the frozen foods thing is kind of a lame thing to do but not awful.

What made him a bad guy was intentionally preventing the legal heir to the restaurant from getting it.
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>>77759032
this. also i want to fuck that.
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>>77763283
>What confuses me is that I swear they detailed to the harvesting of worlds and they they can only do it if there's no intelligent life, but what changed?
It was never said that they couldn't do it on planets with intelligent life. Just that Rose objected to that and started the rebellion.
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>>77762865
Being canned really deflated him.
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>>77759559
She'd have died of old age like every other person on the planet. Why does she get to be the exception at the expense of others?
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>>77763015
I strongly agree.

Maybe it's just because she reminds the audience of mean, homophobic jocks. Peridot hates fusion, too, but she's a nerd so she gets thrown a bone.

But they see someone like Jasper and can't even see her as a human being...rock.
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>>77764518
he left them to die
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>>77758763
>Everything bad she does is conveniently off-screen, and only told to us by word-of-mouth of the rich family who hates her, and are possibly the only people in the nation who would lose instead of benefit from her rule

Instead of a giant robot, Bryke could have pulled the greatest villain twist in western animation.
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>>77758189
>>77761589
This, pretty much.

Pleakley was fired, too, despite trying his hardest. The Galactic Council aren't very easy people to work for.
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>>77758688
>tfw you always read his name as bendis
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If the cube hadn't been an asshole, he would have succeeded.
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>>77764850
Now I can't stop thinking of this. Could have justified the entire series.
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>>77765089
>Basing your plan, which involves genocide, on a time travel device before you even tested how well it works
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>>77765191
The cube told him about all the saving his family shit and made him go insane, can't blame him.
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>>77758361
Maybe he was supposed to
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>>77765191
the only way to power/test said time travel device is through genocide
its a catch 22, he decided to gamble
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>>77765304
He could test it out with smaller amounts of Wakfu to find the Wakfu/time ratio. Which is like, the most important thing to know when calculating his plan.
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>>77764834
>
Watch the confrontation scene again. Balto comes in, guns hot, and refuses to cooperate with Steel. Steel, after recovering from the scuffle, comes back to find that Balto had taken his crew and left him alone in the forest.

Balto is the villain of that movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eV5FnQMXA
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>>77765089
He needed to accept his tragedy and move on with his life, instead he spent 200 years in obsessed misery inflicting untold death and misery onto others because he couldn't let go.

Nigga's family wouldn't have wanted this.

Also calling the entirely nonsentient Eliacube an asshole is a little unfair.
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Literally nothing wrong, if anything she was a victim at the hands of literally everyone in one way or another
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>>77758430
>And it's also like that "contractors on the Death Star" thing from Clerks.
The rant that was refuted at the end of the scene by an actual contractor?
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>>77759017
Metalbending equalizes that playing field easily, tanks and steel ships ain't as impressive as they used to be.
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>>77765242
Literally made my aunt cry today and you just hurt me more reminding me what could have been.
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...why was she counted as a villain again?
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>>77765329
how exactly do you propose he could measure it.
the genocide of hundreds of years only did like 10 minutes of time
so he uses a flowers wakfu and a fraction of a fraction of a second he goes back. how would he measure that?
in order to get enough wakfu to test it then would require killing shit tons of stuff just to get enough to possibly measure it and at that point you would have already done a lot of unspeakable acts just to get the test to start.
If you already slaughtered an entire race just to get enough for a test run, you've already invested yourself into the project so fully that if you tested and failed you have to live with that forever, but if you succeeded you wasted the wakfu
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>>77765524
She was willing to kill innocent people so she could steal the thing keeping them alive.
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>>77759401
Bitvh kicked Pascal for no reason
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>>77765582
Her boss was, she just didn't want to be stuck in a cave and left to die like all the other main characters
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>>77765405
Let's not talk with your dick right now, son.

She was the victimizer in pretty much every instance of the show.
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>>77765581
>how would he measure that?
Something like water trickling down a ruler, combined with the much easier time stop for accurate measurement
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>>77757965
This goes double for the real Governor Ratcliffe who was not only more hilarious, but not bad at all. The guy was idealistic to the point of insanity (nigga wanted to build a log castle) but he never tried to genocide injuns and actually thought they could coexist peacefully.

I know this is the movie where Pocahontas isn't the jailbait she actually was, but that's always kinda pissed me off. Turned into a Disney Villain for no reason... Also, how's this for a climax:

>In December 1609, Ratcliffe and 14 fellow colonists were invited to a gathering with the a tribe of Powhatan Indians. The Powhatans promised the starving colonists would be given corn, but it was a trap. The colonists were ambushed. Ratcliffe suffered a particular gruesome fate: Ratcliffe was tied to a stake in front of a fire. Women removed the skin from his face with mussel shells and tossed the pieces into the flame as he watched. Finally, he was burned at the stake.

Holy Fuck.
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>>77765751
Savages, barely even human
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>>77765581
He was operating on the assumption that all the Sadida Wakfu was enough for at least 200 years back. He'd assume a couple people would at least send him back a few seconds, and thus could test that and realize the actual rate was much less.
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>>77765655
time stop is not the same as time reversal from a physics perspective so no
and i'm talking on the scale less than attoseconds. we have difficulty measuring that with our current tech and this is an old time setting where gears are considered the most awesome thing ever. at what amount of death do you inflict on the world till you have a measurable unit of time or just go fuck it if i kill everything that should be enough.
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>>77765661
Who is the bottom right?
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>>77765751
Movie would have been better if he wasn't racist, just a moron who thought there was gold, and his death is what sparks the conflict.
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>>77765826
>at what amount of death do you inflict on the world till you have a measurable unit of time or just go fuck it if i kill everything that should be enough.
Nox thought the Wakfu/time rate would be enough to reverse his crimes. That means he'd think a test would undo any murder necessary for it.
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>>77765828
Madder Red from Image comic named Bedlam.
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>>77765751
History is kind of like that

I hear all the time "White guilt" and "Don't you regret what your people have done throughout history". They paint a picture of the noble, peaceful, and all accepting Indians who were savagely treated by the evil pilgrims, as we should all feel awful we exist.

Really people aren't that different no matter where you go. One or two situations might lead you to these kind of actions, the main thing that allows us to develop differently is upbringing and situation. Indians would have done the same things as the whites had, and really did launch constant attacks as well, but the situation just ended up favoring one side in the end due to advancements on one sides technology.

We can't pretend we're really any different. If one side hadn't have done it, the other probably would have,
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>>77765913
Thanks.
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>>77762514

he did a lot wrong, but he was a hardcore motherfucker and so it's kinda difficult to hate him once you realize that homie don't play that shit.

plus, he brought Carlos to America.
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>>77765524
She was working with Rourke.
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>>77765524
Huh, you're kinda right. All she did in that movie was recruit Milo for the expedition and blow up Rourke's escape balloon. Both good guy things.
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>>77766084
But she was sardonic, sarcastic and sexy, so that means she has to be a villain
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>>77766103
Well, she was also kinda okay with allowing a whole society to slowly die for her own profit...
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>>77759179
Wait that green ones a girl?
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>>77766226
They're all girls, except Steven.
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>>77762199
I didn't expect any of that from a fucking Thomas movie
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>>77759413
>>77759370
Because she's shown as intelligent. She understands what her father is doing to her family but continues to enable him further splintering her marriage and family dynamic. Morty's Dad is an unsophisticated coward idiot who has the safety and wellbeing of his family as his number one priority, he often wants Rick's abusive actions and person to be removed as he knows there are consequences to his actions that he refuses to acknowledge. Beth sees this as damaging to her only opportunity to reconnect with her father out of pure selfishness because her loss of her own security in childhood.
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>>77762930
The neighboring tribes all teamed up with him to take them down because the Aztecs were notoriously blood thirsty.
Like 4,000 human sacrifices in a day thirsty.
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>>77766254
Never seen the show so I always assumed they were just wearing megaman style armor
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>>77766202
Hey, if the options I knew I had were:
A) Get left in a cave with a bunch of other people already being left to die
B) Get shot by gasmask wearing mooks
C) Get a ride home and get paid too

I know which one I'd pick
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>>77765915
Share this video with your friends and family next Thanksgiving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1y_0NfhF9c

Native American land was always in a state of flux, with borders based on the power of the tribes. If you were to map these borders, they would be constantly changing, looking like pebble tile across North America. When European settlers arrived, a new pebble was added to the map, then more pebbles as new colonies were established. As our population and relative power grew, the pebbles turned into rocks, then boulders. Soon, there was a smooth slate of European dominated land on the East coast.

These tribes did not have alliance. They did not mark their borders. They did not have a representative catalog of their territory others could check to see if a valley was owned or not. Territory changed as virility of the warriors in a tribe improved. Basically, the Europeans were just a new tribe in who happened to have better warriors with better numbers. So, who and what did we invade? By the Native Americans own traditions, no one.

Never forget that every land was inhabited by someone before the inhabitants of today took it over and built atop the bones. To pretend one side is more guilty than another is pathetic. Most existed in a near constant state of low intensity war with their neighbors, and some tribes rivaled ISIS for sheer inhuman brutality in their raids. When the colonial powers arrived, the tribes tried to play them against their rivals, and against each other. We broke treaties, and so did they. We committed atrocities, and so did they. We played them, and they tried to play us. We were simply better at it.
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>>77766310
I always thought those gasmask mooks were cool as shit. Pretty hardcore showing many of them die because they were faceless.
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>>77766325
>we were simply better at it
I feel like I should be saying >>>/pol/, but I actually learned something.
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>>77765089
>20 minutes
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>>77761516
>murdered hundreds of supers
>dindonuthin'

astounding
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>>77766325
Dang, was this an actual villain's speech? It's good.
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AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTED EVERYONE'S FAVORITE DINDONOTHIN CIRCLEJERK!

I am ashamed, /co/
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>>77758688
He took a cookie
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>>77766528
That last bit especially. Fucking chills man.
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This guy was just doing the hard job of governing. Did anyone expect Aladdin, or the even the Sultan for that matter to actually rule efficiently?
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>>77765334
Idk man I can't agree. He's kinda acting like he wants all the credit and wants to fuck up balto for taking 'muh fame' and everyone basically hates him for being a selfish dick about it. Plus he bought his own grave trying to throw balto in
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>ITT: every single villain ever
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>>77766544
That's because he's an idiot. He could have lived off those cats, a rich man, until he died.
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>>77766686
It doesn't count if when you get infinite power you proceed to fuck everything up even worse.
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>>77764952
>Carnage-Man
>Villain
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>>77758189
He gave me a boner anon, and he possibly started my size difference fetish.
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>>77765089
I think it's pretty fair to say that the cube is the real villain, almost like the ring from lotr. Everyone that stays with it for too long becomes insane.
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>>77765751
Know what the worst part is?
It's so unnecessary. Why resort to deception? You had them outnumbered and outmatched. They were starving to death why not just roll in and kill them fair and square, or even just let them starve to death?
Promising them corn and then mutilating them just seems mean.
>>77767742
>They built a wall, what was I supposed to do? Not topple their empire and massacre their people?
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>>77766202
Actually she said something along the lines of "it wasn't part of the plan".
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>>77767779
You missed the part where Atilla never invaded China.
Nothing wrong.
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>>77765751
I prefer the disney version where they are a bunch of hot people who dindu nuffin.
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>>77765089
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>>77767779
>They built a wall, what was I supposed to do? Not topple their empire and massacre their people?
There's literally more than one billion chinese people in the world. So obviously he didn't did his job very well.
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>>77767780
I respectfully disagree.
He definitely did bad and had bad intentions in the beginning, but his heart grew three sizes by the end for the boy.
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>>77767884
Well of course, he got beat up by a teenaged girl, though to be fair she was Chun Li.
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>>77767849
He wasn't Atilla.
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>>77767941
Right he was supposed to be another notable horse-riding archer. And don't tell me he was Ghengis, if it was Ghengis, Mulan would have ended with a lot more rape.
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>>77766325
People always forget that " good morals" were a recent invention, being selfless is pretty hard when your survival as well as those of your people were constantly at stake.
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>>77764759
It was completely wrong to kidnap the baby in every way but it was completely out of self preservation.

If someone had to kidnap someone to not die while I may not approve of them doing that in the first place the reasoning behind it is a lot better than just doing it for money. I don't think anyone is going to go "well I guess I'll just die instead then".

They clearly had to make it so Gothel never bothered to put any sort of barrier around the flower because otherwise yeah the king looks like an asshole. She was using the flower for X amount of years before king just came along and took it.

She was never in the right but they really had to go out of their way to not show the fact she was the closest thing that flower had to a "owner".
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>>77768157
Still she was the closest thing to a owner. She was the only one who knew about it, she was hiding it even if she didn't put a fence up. It's not like she was randomly finding these flowers, it was a singular one she went to regularly and used and was presumably on her property. Really a good fix would've been making her more hostile in hiding and protecting it.
Ultimately, at worst the King looks like a slightly lesser asshole than Gothel even if he robs her.

He steals it to save his wife and child.
Then she kidnaps his baby whom she then mildly psychologically tortures for almost two decades.

Though really Gothel's lack of cooperation understandable as it was is what made her lose the flower in the first place.
It was a healing flower, if she just shared the secret, it probably would've saved the queen without destroying it.
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>>77768007
His name was Shan-Yu. Which is the Xiongnu equivalent of "chief" or "Khan".
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>>77764913
Wasn't he the best? He almost succeeded at it too. At most he should have been suspended.
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>>77764237
You're forgetting be broke time just to kill Barry. Then threw a fit when he couldn't get that, so he killed his mom. Then creepily stalked a dude and his lady, killing them both. Thawne is nuts. He's not as nuts as his hilariously dickish comic book version, but still nuts
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>>77760643
I'd fuck loli Megatron.
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>>77758268
He rebelled against his king and lead a mob.

Two crimes punishable by death.
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>>77763015
>>77763067
>>77764811
don't forget that by whatever point they break the Malachite fusion, she'll probably be a broken wreck from being trapped in a forced fusion for months on end, which will probably bring sympathy to her from Steven and the other Gems and hopefully speed along a redemption arc
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>>77766325
Damn. Which movie is that? That speech was based as fuck.
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>>77758361
>That short appearance in the last last SJ comic
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>>77758401
He shouldve quit while he was a head
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>>77763962
Didn't he steal buzzs newspaper?
irredeemable.
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>>77758208

Stupid fucking idiot, he had to MARRY the princess first, even then he wouldn't inherit, he had to have a fucking kid with her, then kill her and rule through his kid.
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>>77762865
yes
they were really inconsistent with his size in the film.
He's a lot smaller in the cartoon but they keep it more consistent
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>>77759401
Emotional abuse is not okay. She belittled Rapunzel and stifled every spark of independence that she showed in order to make Rapunzel completely dependant on her. It's textbook controlling behaviour and is sadly all too common in real life.
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>>77769033
Well not necessarily. In the Nordics, the mandate to rule has always depended on whether or not the nobility and army and clergy feel you're fit for the job - and if they decide you're not, they can change you, have you imprisoned, the parliament elect a new monarch, have them crowned, and that'll be that. This actually happened in Sweden in the 1800s, the king lost a war and the nobility and military just locked him in a dungeon and elected a Danish Prince for the throne. In the movie, Elsa has clearly list the confidence and trust of the nobility, military and most likely the people, and has failed her duties as head of state through running away in a crisis and throwing away her crown &declaring she'll never go back. The peopke support Hans, the nobility had selected him (you are all Arendelle has left, Arendelle looks to you), the military also supports him - they go with him to execute Elsa in the cell. It would have been a coup, but he could have pulled it off.
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>>77762826
What irks me about this scene is that Luthor was just as much of a dictator as Superman.
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Am I the only one taking the "face ripped off then burned at stake" story with a grain of salt? I mean, it was a report by guys who were antagonizing said natives. I'm not saying anyone didn't do nuffin, just that both sides were known dicks and we're kind of missing an objective viewpoint there.
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>>77760904
COMMIE
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>>77759454

Most of his stuff is purposefully dumb and easily destroyed. The 'fights' with Perry are literally like the high point of his week, I don't think he has any other friends.
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>>77763849
>Be in bar
>Old man comes in screaming about a mythical monster that kidnapped his daughter and is incredibly dangerous
>Daughter is oddly missing and no one apart from the dad apparently knows why

Obviously Maurice was right, but you're chatting shit if you'd think he should be believed.
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Your'e all plebs.

Literally the only correct answer.
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At the end, he just wanted a safer Gotham.
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>>77769735
>Gets keked
>Decides to kill everyone
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>>77758935
>Any Chris Mcdonald character
>Did nothing wrong
He only even gets work because does "asshole for no reason" so well.
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>>77758948
i miss him
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>>77763015
this. She was literally just doing her job. Plus she didn't even know Steven was a child, she thought he was Rose being a weirdo. Lapis is way more evil than her, seeing as she's been mindraping Jasper constantly for months now.
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>>77767768
The cube isn't at fault either, it's basically the ripped out heart of the giant robot bug guy from the flashback in season 2, according to that Eliatrope xbox game (Islands of Wakfu I think?), so I guess all it says are perpretual screams of torment because some asshole really needed a glowing cube and didn't think of using own intestines for that
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>>77758812
So people steal your shit and you must let go?
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>>77763015
only Lapis is irredemable because she acts according to selfish desires. also she has the least interesting personality, if I was a writer I'd consider her expandable as the only truly unique thing she brings to the table are her powers

Jasper is ultimately the most redeemable because she's, from what we've seen, a soldier following some bizarre code of honor
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>>77767883
>tfw dinner was ready 35 minutes ago.
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>>77770006
Lapis has a far more interesting personality than that, it's just that writing what is essentially a broken, suicidal woman lashing out is pretty difficult.
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>>77769214
I control my bf like that. I have my fingers in his bank account, employment, education, and his recent car purchase, as well as all his credit lines (which I tanked over the course of 1 year, his credit is like 360 now). He's not allowed to hang out with unapproved friends, he has a return home time, and most stay in text contact at all times.

I monitor all his email accounts, steam, and skype. Since controlling behavior appears to rub you in the wrong way, I am curious as to what you think about my behavior.
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>>77770143
>writing what is essentially a broken, suicidal woman lashing out is pretty difficult.
nope.
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>>77770143
people only say Lapis is amazing and complex because she's their waifu

she's boring because there are already loads of tragic characters in this show but most of them have potential for a wider range of scenarios than LL does
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>>77770240
cool story bro
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>>77764701
How did a horrible abomination that is part skinless flesh and part porcelain get so fuckable?
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>>77757965
WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM FILTHY LITTLE HEATHENS?
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>>77763996
Well that line of thinking fucked him up even more. Denying reality doesn't really work
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>>77770315
Why would I tell stories about that!?
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>>77760781
He's a jerk
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>>77770419
To rile up some random anon
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