Best Adventure Time seasons:
2>1>3>4>7(at least for the moment)>5>6
Prove me wrong, /co/. Also, Marceline a cutie.
I don't have encyclopedic knowledge of AT seasons or the ability to gauge them all off the top of my head. So I don't know.
But yes, Marcy a cutie.
Season 6 was the best and the worst season. Sad Face, Prince Who Wanted Everything, Princess Day, Dentist, Chips & Ice Cream, and Water Park Prank are some real stinkers, some of the worst episodes of the show. But it also gave us Wake Up/Citadel, Food Chain, Is That You?, Evergreen, Astral Plane, The Mountain, Jermaine, and The Comet, which were all fantastic episodes, as well as Breezy, which is easily the most significant episode of the series.
7 was shaping up to be GOAT until that bullshit reset at the end of Marcie's special.
I don't understand the hate for Dentist. Tiffany is such a funny low level villain and the ep had lots of weirdness and a cool worm fight with embedded character motivation and development. Also a weird plot about ants vs flies. It's a great episode!
>Adventure Time Studios, 3:30 AM
>A dark corner
>Pendleton Ward is scribbling away
>He has finished, at long last, the full story for the Adventure Time movie
>It's not perfect, nothing ever is, but it's as close to the memories of his tabletop games and comic books that motivated him to make that fateful pilot episode years ago
>The story is simple enough, Finn fights the Ice King to save Peebles, and then contends with the Lich. The structure is effective, but it's in the humor where the film truly shines
>Suddenly, the door to Pen's office bursts open
>He is blinded as light fills the room
>Jesse Moynihan, Steve Little, Somvilay Xayaphone, and even Rebecca Sugar walk into the office
>Pen has not heard from them in months
>He hasn't seen Rebecca for years
>"W-what's up, guys?", he asks, a mix of fear and hope in his voice
>"We heard you finished the movie, Pen.", Little says, an eerie smile on his face
>"We wanted to offer feedback.", Moynihan chips in
>Ward clenches his teeth. "There's- there's no need for that, guys."
>"Oh, I insist.", Jesse says, and snatches the 500 storyboards from Pen's hand as he takes out a bright red sharpie.
>"This is no good at all", Little snorts, as he crosses off a picture of the Gumball Guardians and replaces them with Betty.
>"This plot point is too direct. You need to be more experimental and philisophical with your ending.", Moynihan mutters as he tears the final story board of Finn killing the Lich into pieces.
>"I like this panel.", Rebecca Sugar says, as she holds up a picture of Finn kissing Princess Bubblegum as Marceline cheers them all.
>"But it would work even better if you switched Finn with Marceline, don't you agree?"
>"N-no I- I don't agr-" Pen starts to mutter.
>He is met not with glares, but looks of incredulity.
>"Y-yes, you're right.", Pen says
>"I- I just wanted an Adventure, but maybe... maybe that's not what kids want. Go ahead and make the changes.
>AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
>MY EMPIRE OF DIRT
If that's why they are focused on so much nowadays then who the fuck was bitching for Finn and FP to break up and get that shitty arc we have now?
Finn was literally ruined to make way for PB x Marcy
The main reason
I almost didn't like Stakes for the forced pandering, especially later on (and of course the last episode, but not for status quo reasons). Luckily enough, Stakes was great for the funny jokes and sense of adventure I really missed from the former seasons.
7 has proven they have reached a point of pure mediocrity
They know how to make basic but mostly inoffensive episodes. Any magic the show had is long dead and it feels like everyone is waiting for it to end with the slight hope that maybe it could pull it all back
It doesn't push mostly. More gives what could be considered hints through shipping goggles and then oddly overt moments that if you didn't know seem miss placed
Basically it is bread crumbs that shippers hold up as banquets
OP you are clearly a man of wealth and taste, almost entirely my thoughts.
Though I thought the first part of season 5 was equal to season 4 and the second half was worse than 6. Not judging 7 till it's over but it's been alright so far.
Jermaine was alright but overall I felt it was kind of a missed opportunity.
Finn and Jake meet their brother who they apparently have not seen in years and years, but no one really cares and they still just get to jumping around and being wacky. A tender moment between the bros would have been great.
And it was fucked up that Finn and Jake's old house burnt down the instant we saw it, come on man.
Nope, they waited years to start going nuts over it. If they really did it just to please the fans then season 4 would have been the age of Bubbline but that didn't really get anything for a while.
I don't really understand why they waited so long to get around to splurging out with the relationship like they did in Stakes.
All of Adventure Time is good except the Flame Princess arc, which is only slightly worse than the rest of the series and is essentially filler despite having plot elements and development.
You really thought they were going to keep Marcy mortal? Everyone's so pissed off about status quo but I don't know how you can be delusional enough to expect anything else.
THEY SANG A SONG ABOUT NOTHING CHANGING, PEOPLE
>Everyone's so pissed off about status quo
/co/ is literally the only community I know of where people keep seriously bitching about status quo in AT, or even in episodical cartoons in general.
>mmm unacceptable ... unacceptable ... unacceptabl-AHH LEMONS
Ice King still is fucking great. Also 7 has been a great surprise so far, at least much better than S6 and heading its way to S3-S4 tier.
Not that guy but I don't see what's so dumb about expecting the bare minimum level of development. Marcy would still have had all her powers but just being mortal and having to eat food and being able to be in the sunlight would have actually made Stakes significant other than nebulous "character development" that likely will never amount to anything.
>THEY SANG A SONG ABOUT NOTHING CHANGING, PEOPLE
How convenient for them, that's just them being "we're too lazy for anything else, yo Sugar can you cover our ass?" and you eating that up. It was a nice song but there's a reason they went with that moral.
I'm a major fanboy too, I just happened to not like S6 because it was aired at a time where I didn't have time at all for the season and thus I became seriously confused when watching some episodes. S7 is much better so far anyway, and S6 isn't that bad.
Why do people keep saying Everything Stays was about status quo? It fucking isn't, you people are just taking it either as an argument to justify the direction or as an argument to talk shit about the show.
It was about Marcy's fucking thousand years of life.
At the moment season 7 likely snuggles up somewhere next to 6. 5.1 had good episodes but was mostly really boring and 6 had a lot of shit, even aside from the finale.
So far season 7 has had a different tone, which I appreciate, but it still kind of middling and mediocre overall. The only episode I really loved was Football.
Somewhat yes. If it's like a more mellow Holly Jolly Secrets I would be fine with that long as the thing's funny. Seeing more Moe is long overdue.
See that commercial and how they replicated that sledding scene from Prisoners of Love? Pretty neat, I miss Finn's yellow sweater though.
But it wasn't about the show, because nobody outside of /co/ actually cares about the major status quo as long as there are any long term evolutions, as small as they might be. I seriously doubt the writers, especially Sugar, gave any fuck about the bunch of self-hating faggots here.
Yes. And I don't even like BMO.
Why do you think they would only make it about the show in response to people peeved on the Internet? They made it because they thought it was a good message they were proud of and wanted to show it to their audience. No everything is done as feedback to the audience.
Everything Stays can apply to the rest of the show outside of Marceline, if you don't see that that's on you. It's not a stretch to make.
I accidentally clicked on the whole profile. I shouldn't have to.
Seeing this was set up as AT mini series - Marcy reveals and growth people did expect a little more
Her just not being a vampire any more would be something. Hell actually go in with the shipping, make it a real romance and have them live together. Have some balls. Instead just flopped all over the place and then undid everything
>long term evolutions
you mean all those ones they get rid of or make so minor it doesn't effect shit?
Everything changes but it stays the same cause they are a bunch of hacks. I like how you are trying to push this only /co/ says that like even if it were true that somehow destroys the argument
We knew the human part thanks to the writers saying it, but it was never mentioned in the series.
I actually wonder if Finn even knows that Marcy is half human, but then again they never really showed his reactions/thoughts after finding out that IK technically still is a human, too.
Anyone else feel like the AT fanbase is just deader than dead? Or is it just /co/ these days?
Seems like there really isn't as much interest here as there used to be, though that could just be how the board kind of discourages cartoon discussions in a way.
AT certainly has a calmer fanbase nowdays, partially thanks to CN's complete lack of empathy towards the show and advertisment for it. But /co/ also has been really losing much of its steam in the past months, along with 4chan in general and the heavily deteriorating overall situation and quality on this website.
At least AT is slowly coming back from its five month hiatus; 4chan on the other hand isn't.
4chan has been constantly losing visitors since 2010 m8, long before both of these events happened. Things like these and the creation of eight chan only accelerated the freefall, but they aren't the main causes.
>that word still fucking is considered as spam
just fuck my shit up senpai
Many are on reddit,
me too since it went shit here. Actually there was a funny discussion during the first Stakes airing there because some anon posted top tier posts from here in the reddit threads and got busted after posting a complete analysis which incidentally was written by another person using /co/.
I wouldn't say it's the hiatus though, because it's kinda affecting every cartoon and every board on 4chan, minus /a/ and the already very slow boards like /trv/.
I'm seriously considering drawing a fanart of badass Bonnie holding her gun while standing on her couch flying around the Dark Cloud, but I don't have any drawing tablet so I'd need to rely on pen and paper. Would anyone give a shit about it?
The song was about how everything stays, but it still changes (literally a verse).
People and things can remain where they are, but they grow a little and change more subtly.
Marcy grew up a bit, she seems to be a bit more open about her feelings towards Bubblegum.
Bubblegum came to accept her hubris and pride, going so far as to trust Pep But with using crystal magic to cure Marcy's poisoning.
Finn didn't get much of anything from this, but he didn't need to. Over time, he's had the most drastic roller-coaster of change while people continue to claim status quo: little nigga lost his innocence, went through puberty, hit some rough depression and has more recently come back into himself as an independent, righteous adventurer (like in how he wanted to spare VK at first)
And in the end, the show's making a big point of the cyclical nature of their world. Even VK points it out to Marcy when he asks her what she's seen over her immortality and how he wanted to break the cycles, but failed.
It's all about the endless circle of adventure
>Bubblegum came to accept her hubris and pride, going so far as to trust Pep But with using crystal magic to cure Marcy's poisoning.
That reminds me of how practically nobody talked about Bonnie admitting her hubris and arrogance.
It's Finn's job though. I think most people would react like Bonnie towards Marcy if they were friends for centuries, even if Finn has done much for them and is a very good friend too. A firefighter losing his life to the flames would be comparable to Finn dying in his duty.
>the show's making a big point of the cyclical nature of their world
Right, because it's more convenient for the show to operate that way.
If you expect consistent, subtle change from Adventure Time, you are probably on life support due to your severe brain damage.
>The show is too much status quo
>How dare they suddenly make Marcy and Bonnie lesbians
>There's no consistent, subtle change
Nigga, you can't honestly look at the fucking S1 Enciridion episode and something like Stakes and claim that these characters haven't changed over the course of the 7 seasons.
Like I said, Finn's gone through a FUCKTON of change emotionally and as a character. A lot of which even pissed people off because he was being too mopey/girl crazy (y'know, like a kid going through puberty in a world of sexy princesses).
>y'know, like a kid going through puberty in a world of sexy princesses
>mfw I'll never chew Bonnie's delicious bubblegum
Just kill me already
>you can't honestly look at the fucking S1 Enciridion episode and something like Stakes and claim that these characters haven't changed over the course of the 7 seasons.
That's not because the writers slowly and carefully developed them. Homer Simpson in season 10 is pretty different from season 3.
>Finn's gone through a FUCKTON of change emotionally and as a character
Other than lacking his energy and heroic drive, Finn didn't improve or get deeper. None of the moping did any good except to return him to where he was before.
>muh mature friendship with Bubblegum
Pure delusion. If anything he's more her slave than ever.
>Makes Finn and Jake take on the comet by themselves (if they fail the Candy Kingdom is fucked)
>Tags along with Marceline to fight vampires
Truly the worst of romance choices for the boy. Where the fuck is Roselinen at?
not him, but
>That's not because the writers slowly and carefully developed them. Homer Simpson in season 10 is pretty different from season 3.
Actually, yeah it is.
>Other than lacking his energy and heroic drive, Finn didn't improve or get deeper. None of the moping did any good except to return him to where he was before.
I don't get where people are expecting that character evolution automatically means someone must "improve" or become a "deeper" person, even less if the mentioned character goes through fucking puberty.
>Pure delusion. If anything he's more her slave than ever.
You sound like you've never watched pre-S3 AT. He clearly literally was a bubbleslave back then, and nowadays he's keeping up a much more stable, healthy relationship with her.
>Where the fuck is Roselinen at?
This. Finn has been coming out as his own, independent hero more and more since the orgalorg bullshit, but he still seems too clingy to bubblegum and marcy a la >>77761953
I honestly think it may be better for them to try and copy Regular Show.
I mean Rigby, not Mordocai. Rigby's relationship with Eilean has been great so far.
No drama bullshit, kept things quiet for as long as he could while dropping some hints, they continued to support and help each other grow after the reveal, etc.
Finn needs a nice calm girl that gets him and can support him, not some princess or wild child.
>I don't get where people are expecting that character evolution automatically means someone must "improve" or become a "deeper" person,
Because that's the only reason to do it, you chucklefuck. To make the main character of a fun show way less fun because "muh realistic puberty" is a sign the writers don't understand the purpose of character development. It's not even fair anyway. Finn's gotten absolutely NOTHING good out of puberty. He was better off as a 12 year old, and for most real people, that just isn't the case.
>nowadays he's keeping up a much more stable, healthy relationship with her.
Bitch that ain't true. He works for her exclusively because he loves her, that didn't magically change. He keeps his mouth shut now but that doesn't mean their friendship is better quality. At least she used to be friendly and sweet and flirty to him.
Sometimes I think this show is written by women who believe boys never have feelings they weren't given permission to feel.
>water park prank
the episode seriously loses a lot of charm by using the normal VA's instead of having the same guy voice everyone
7 is pretty good so far, but there aren't enough episodes to have a definitive answer. I'm still fearing something like S5 where it began fucking great and ended a bit mediocre. Also I'm hyped for the BMO special
As this is tumblr I can't decide if he's ironically shitposting, seriously shitposting or just being himself.
so they fuck my city up during the day and fuck my internet hobbies up during the night, great.
He never will again, considering it's been nothing but humiliation for the kid. But scorned romantic obsessions don't magically turn into good friendships. How does anyone even interpret their modern relationship as friendship when she treats him like a child/errand boy/tool?
>How does anyone even interpret their modern relationship as friendship when she treats him like a child/errand boy/tool?
She acts like that with everyone, even with Marcy half of the time.
All that suggests is she cares so little about other people that only Marcy (who she's known intimately for hundreds of years) is the only one who can get her to feel something. And that's only sometimes. To a person like that, Finn would be about as important as a tadpole.
Huh, Finn's gotten noticably wider it seems.
>Finn's gotten absolutely NOTHING good out of puberty.
He's gotten experience. He went on a crazy roller coaster with Bubblegum and Flame Princess and was possibly raped by LSP.
He at the very least knows better now and hasn't been focusing so much on his romances.
Also, he's not exactly where he started. Finn's gone from the niave boy adventurer that wanted to just punch monsters into more of a manly adventurer of late that aims to protect everyone and be more responsible,
partly due to how much of a jerk his dad was. even if Martin got blipped out of existance, his impact on the way Finn operates is still somewhat there from that episode with the crashed ship and the little critters
which the writers seemed to completely forget about and is an actual example of them being shit.
I always got the feeling Bonnie's just antisocial and sociopathic to a point where despite her very high intelligence she doesn't understand emotions of other people at all, except in rare cases. And this isn't something that started during later seasons, it's clearly visible since S1, like with her megalomania.
She likely cares about other people, especially friends, but she's just so socially retarded she doesn't show it at all.
>Marceline. I'm so very, very, very excited to test my new lab out on you *walks away*
This is possibly due to how long they've known each other, perhaps even before Bonnie building her kingdom. I don't want to rule Bubbline out, but even if the ship is almost confirmed I'm pretty sure they're like this because of how long they've been friends. Even if Bonnie had a new relationship with somebody other than Marcy she'd likely act like a sociopath or a social retard anyway.
>try your hardest for about 4-6 years to win girl's heart and get her to open up to you
>almost do so now that you've grown up and matured
>previous ex comes back into her life and sweeps her off her feet, leaving you and your feelings in the dust
sounds like an MTV movie. poor kid
>He at the very least knows better now and hasn't been focusing so much on his romances.
He learned that love = pain, like a beaten down dog. It's not a mature realization, it's regression.
It's not like he can or should avoid romance forever. He needs good love experiences to grow, not a barrage of shit from a world rigged against him. It's like a Pavlovian experiment where he's trained to curl up into an anxiety-ridden ball every time he gets a boner.
>Finn's gone from the niave boy adventurer that wanted to just punch monsters into more of a manly adventurer of late that aims to protect everyone and be more responsible
I think you're making this up tbqh wit you family. Finn was a super good dogooder and protector of the helpless all along. Sure it was fun to punch shit but his main motivation was a moral one. Remember his backstory where he vowed to help those in need because his parents helped him? That's more of a coherent rationale than "I'm bored so let's do this shit".
She likely needs a push to understand things, like when Marceline said. "Well don't get all sentimental on me." I think she can be social going by the fact that she was friends with Marceline in the past and that they can talk and joke around with each other. Since building the Kingdom she just started to isolate herself while becoming very prideful and arrogant.
She gets the idea of caring, just too much. She treats her citizens like her children, but then watches them like a hawk to make sure nothing goes wrong.
She considers Finn her hero, but doesn't seem to understand why he'd have any feelings towards her most of the time.
Marcy and the bubble slug are really the only things she could possibly have a more complex love for due to the fact that they've been around for so long that she was able to connect with them.
This is why Finn needs himself a girlfriend that isn't some crazy monster or ancient being
not right now, but eventually I mean.
It'd probably never happen cause it's too against the "progressive" ideas of the show, but he needs a nice, quiet girl that can stay at home and wait for him to return from his adventures tired and weary with a warm meal ready and shit.
Someone stable to balance out his wanderlust.
Someone like Roselinen.
You're right there. I also think the whole hubris scene made her think about how she acts and how people perceive her, thus possibly making her act more like a person in future episodes.
They've been friends since Bonnie began building the Kingdom, but then as it got bigger they had a fallout. I think the only reason Marceline can get Bonnibel emotional is not just because of their friendship in the past but that Marceline knows Bonnibel's real personality.
Well said, well said, anon. It is really a slap in the face Finn does not someone genuinely loves him not because some random dramas.
Her definition of caring is a more maternal one, not like the caring between friends or people who ... care for each other in general.
Yeah, Finn seriously needs a girl. Possibly one like FP imo, but please without fucking it up this time. She doesn't even need to be a princess, that'd be even better. I think a quiet, calm girl would just bore him out after a while though. Even a Marceline tier female would be good, as long as she's more or less emotionaly stable.
I'm writing all this as a Fubblegum shipper, by the way
>Someone like Roselinen
And the writers fucking know it! They proved they know what kind of girl would click with him, and now she's dead and he doesn't remember. Because loneliness will make him stronger, right? I hate Puhoy. So much.
I can't really recall many fart jokes from S1, mostly remember all the times they said 'sexy' back then.
You wanna see fart (and burp) jokes, fuckin Stakes was full of em, moreso than I ever remember AT being.
>Because loneliness will make him stronger, right?
No that cis white fuck has to suffer. All the other cast members have already went through some tragic experience or has something wrong with them and he's not going to be the once exception.
Finn's gotta be a horny prick and not take no for an answer. He's gotta keep nagging to get into their pants instead of forming a healthy relationship with them. He has to lose the arm and his dad has to be an even bigger dick than he was to show how far his instincts have taken over his personality.
Now that he's destroyed most of his friendships he gets to watch his previous 2 girlfriends get cream filled by a pastry and succubus vampire.
>You wanna see fart (and burp) jokes, fuckin Stakes was full of em, moreso than I ever remember AT being.
>tfw Bonnie farted
it made me laugh harder than I should
Phoebe was a fucking mess with huge trust issues and too much power.
Finn needs a girl without the drama. One that could be the quaint little romance on the side of all the crazy adventuring.
Be honest anon, you hate how it ended and was lost, not the whole episode. It was a glimpse of what could be and it was good, but then they tore it away.
At least we know his true waifu can be some kind of non human creature and he'd still be able to have kids.
Above all else, I think I really want Finn the Father.
Anything would be better than Jake or Martin
Stab yourself. There's so much more to season 1 than fart jokes, and even the ones that were there were usually funny because they paid attention to comedic timing back then.
It's this "mature cartoons for mature people like myself" attitude that ruined the show.
Their secret fart-burp language or however this is called. The last noise Bonnie made was a fart.
I still don't know if people were holding their noses because of her or because of Jake though, as the VK did it too and he was walking in front of Jake, but behind Bonnie.
Oh well shoot she did. I didn't notice that the first go round
>Be honest anon, you hate how it ended and was lost, not the whole episode.
No, I really do hate it and don't get why it's so popular. It's the same 2deep metaphorical crap /co/ usually hates, with the bonus of the "it was all a dream" cliche. I thought Rosalinen was pretty rad (finally someone kind who makes a move on Finn), but since he didn't remember, she might as well have been a dream he had while he was angst-ing it up in Fort Manchild, when he could've been hanging out with his girlfriend who needed that precious screentime.
Literally, they hated writing Finn and FP together so much they had Finn fuck off to another UNIVERSE just to avoid her.
how else are you supposed to fuck her brains out?
Oh fuck, I never noticed PB actually farted. I won't ever think the same of her again now
Shit, that's pretty rad actually.
Finn has so many possible routes to go down, I hope they at least end the show showing us what he ends up with, or at least enough hints to point towards many options.
That thorn bullshit is especially getting on my nerves. I can't remember, but has he actually used the thorn at all in a magical sense yet? I know he was able to grab something while falling cause the thorn snagged it, but otherwise I don't think it has.
It may have in Hot Diggity Doom, but I blotted most of that shitfest out of my memory.
>Bubblegum farting like if it's normal
I never thought I'd experience this moment, I can now die in peace
I've never felt as sorry for a fictional character as I do for him. It's worse than if he was a tragic character from the start. The show's attempts to teach him about life have destroyed him because of the staff's stupid beliefs about how men should behave...or else. AT is a product of its time in the worst of ways.
You know I've noticed though, that Finn really doesn't seem to give a shit about PB romantically anymore. I feel that he truly has moved on from her and only see's her as a friend. Well that is until I saw the Muffin mess.
I was checking the statistics of the archives and this isn't true, 4chan's userbase is pretty stable in most boards. There is a slight decrease in the posting speed but isn't enough to be a problem.
Remember that time he "got over her" and then crawled right back as soon as Flame Princess left him? Just because he's not actively hitting on her doesn't mean he's over her....not. at. all.
Yeah, he's damaged tho. The very foundation of his relationship with PB is obsession. He's dependent on her and that dependency will never not be romantic in some capacity, in his insanely persistent mind.
I mean the actual canon might be he truly got over her. There's no way to know until the very last goddamn episode. But that would be pretty unbelievable imo. Especially when he lives in a constant state of doing free shit for her, which only serves to reinforce old feelings of "maybe if I help her more than anybody else, she'll love me". Even season 1 recognized why he hung around her so much. No it wasn't just cus they were the best of friends, although ironically that was more true then (back when Marceline and PB were bitchy enemies) than it is today.
I actually think his true obsession is being the HERO, that he thinks people will only like him if he's useful. Which is kind of why I liked that he was pretty chill in Stakes and wasn't the big hero. Cause lets be honest that whole shit was Marceline and PB's problem since its Marcys enemies and PB caused the whole thing.
I just wish someone see's him just as Finn, not the HERO but Finn. Macry is kind of like that, but she only see's him a little bro that she can tease. PB is totally out of the question, and FP did see him as Finn, but then Finn fucked up.
Later in the series I hope he meets someone that he can actually talk too.
>I just wish someone see's him just as Finn, not the HERO but Finn
wa la. 30 seconds of conversation is enough to fill the "someone treating Finn like a human being" quota, right?
Finn was never PB's best friend, that was Lady rainicorn and now recently Marceline who may also be slightly more. PB and Finn only recently became good friends but they are nowhere near her bonds with Lady and Marcy.
Because Steven Universe is for faggots. When characters express their feelings that kills the mystery, ya feel me?
See this shit?
Stop it. Art is suffering, not this cute happy shit.
That was Jesse Moynihan talking, not me. He can get shanked. In Crying and Singing, the characters can move the fuck on from their problems and that's way more important than
>nuuuu crying is for fags
>Root Beer Guy dies
>Cherry Soda Girl moves on
>RBG comes back
>Almost beats the shit out of Starchy to get CSG back
>Bubblegum turns 18 again
>"lol get the fuck away from me Finn I like Marceline now"
>The last noise Bonnie made was a fart.
no, it was a mouth fart, she was winking and holding her cheek. It's when you fill your cheek with air, squeeze it, and the fart noise comes from air bbeing released against your cheek against your gums.
>just finished watching Stakes
>solid 7.5/10 some of the dialogue was bad and the constant Bubbline blushes and pandering was annoying but overall pretty damn good, I feel like it explored some pretty deep things which is impressive for the medium
>I mostly just want to know how the fuck Marci's parents got together and why her dad left her alone after the mushroom wars
I liked it, even though the end felt rushed.
In the last finale it turned into a giant sword-whip thing that he used to defeat Orgalorg. Also I don't know if you already knew and didn't count it, but his right arm is actually a plant that just looks human, so the "thorn" has been acting as replacement limb the whole time as well.
This, this lack of cool shit right here is why many people dropped adventure time. In an AU where a bunch of disgruntled citizens fled their various kingdoms and asked Finn if they could live near his treehouse for protection. Finn would agree and literately overnight he wakes up to find a small town living in the vicinity of his treehouse. The lucrative positioning of the grasslands means control of much of the trade routes making it very rich. The citizens would begin to hail their prosperity towards Finn and name him royalty. This creates GOT types of power struggle as the various rulers of Ooo are threatened of this new self-stlyed king of the peasantry.
>dat Nietzschean eternal return in a children's cartoon
Whatever people say, AT does offer some version of very higher concepts and does it while not coming across as pretentious.
>Daddy, why did you leave me?
>You created me, so don't you wanna see me?
>Daddy, why did you make me
>if you're not gonna take me to get a burger and shakey
>I can count your visits on my fingertips,
>Come back and give me presents from your business trips
Abadeer a shit. From the looks of it he probably left Marceline with her mom, who dies during the mushroom war and she is orphaned.
>Finn & Jake finally keked out of their own show
It was only a matter of time.
You sould like pissed off feminist from tumblr who just hates him because he is
2) did some mistakes
He's not that bad and totally better than some saddistic and hypocrite shit like Princess bu-bu-bu.
The show has really come to undermine that time Finn explained he is confused about PB. He thinks he got over he but still feels something and it maybe him sad and confused. But fuck that lets just have him be a lap dog with no development to it
Stakes was worth it for all the kawai Marceline versions, forgetting everything else. I wonder why they didn't air it for Halloween though...
If he wasn't a lap dog anymore, they might have to think up new story ideas outside of
>Finn, I need you to risk your life again
>you like this hero shit right, why the fuck would you refuse me?
Look what happened when he thought too much about how she's hurt him. He wanted to run off and try to have fun with someone else. It was awful.
>Abadeer doesn't care about Marci
Sure. My guess is they just made up the plot here entirely, and it contradicts whatever P.W. initially intended. Just look at the portrait with Marci's mom in it. This was before Adventure Time was comandeered by the PC and tumblr crowd, now her mom is black and her dad is a deadbeat. It really shows how they are just making it up as they go along to pander to their demos, especially the lesbian tsundere stuff, if it was never so obvious, if it was ever there before, but now it's a thing and they need to force it down everyone's throats.
The only thing that could have made Stakes even comfier would have been to watch it on Halloween, real missed opportunity there. The atmosphere was great, I especially loved the intro and credits.
>ou like this hero shit right, why the fuck would you refuse me?
Because she's a strong woman who need no man and has a right to refuse his feelings if she wants to. Now that she's revealed to be 800 years old and BFF's with Marcy they can fill in the blanks whenever they feel like it and say "it was there all along."
Her Dad not wanting her around does just seem odd. I mean there was that whole episode of him wanting her to take over so her sticking around there would make more sense. Plus it isn't like either world was safer for her, if anything the nightosphere would be as random stuff wouldn't attack her cause of her dad. Plus he is shown to care for her in his own odd way
And just how I saw stuff, it always seemed like Marceline being the rebellious eternal teen she is just ran away/left rather than was never looked after her. Also her mom and dad not being together is strange. I can forgive some random background picture but you have to ask why are they not together, did they break up? How did they get together in the first place without her soul being sucked out? How was they both okay with Marcy leaving and being in a lot of danger with only her mom who is a weak human to protect her? This can all be explained but it seems like they just wanted to push it in there some how
Like a lot of writers it seems like daddy issues who want to focus on the parent being bad and not just accepting teens can be fucking idiots to nice parents
Rebecca Sugar was in charge of Abadeer and that whole backstory, it seems. I bet she would have eventually explained he left her with her mom to keep her safe from the nightosphere or something while not knowing how terrible life on the surface really was, instead of
>lol pump and dump, bye
a la Finn.
But it's his job to serve everyone that is in need which is why he prevented the Vampire King from getting staked and stuck with the candy citizens when the King of Ooo took over. He can't be bitter and watch the Candy Kingdom collapse because it wouldn't be fight.
Finn and Jake would gladly tag along to accompany Bonnie or Marvy through their problems but when the roles are reversed they're nowhere to be found except in The Tower
S7 is okay so far, but I'm surprised people are really getting into it. Honestly, even weak episodes like Sad Face are better than s7's strongest and it hasn't had any great episodes like Time Sandwich. I'm honestly surprised people are saying it's better than both s5 and s6. Some are even saying it's on par with s1. I don't get it.
Mostly because the majority of the episodes from S6 were quite heavy and not really fun, so good episodes like Time Sandwich and The Dentist tend to be forgotten and overlooked by other episodes people didn't really like.
People are taking whatever scraps they can at this stage. Plus most people have just straight up given up on the show and don't talk about it any more leaving hardcore fans and people who have watched so much they are just sticking it out to the end at out of obligation
>tfw no perfect tomboy vampire qt 3.14 who onyl ever dresses like the 90s
>This was before Adventure Time was comandeered by the PC and tumblr crowd, now her mom is black and her dad is a deadbeat.
Modern times anon, embrace it. I for one like it. The only thing better than gay mulatto vampiresses from broken families is
trans gay vampiresses
>Marceline is black
>Marshall Lee's VA is black
>someone with some degree of artistic talent went to the trouble to make this
>people bothered to look it up
>people post it
>these people fucking exist
you're confused son
the only bad episode in season 7
The only way to redeem it would be making the zombie RBG a vessel for the tree demon, he was pretty cool unlike Sky Witch and it's a shame she couldn't die instead
But then for all "muh deep cosmic shit" in season 6 they barely used most new villains, where the fuck is the Citadel crew?
In my headganon, Jesse Moynihan is actually a new reincarnation of Bane trying to avenge the cancelled scene featuring her beloved waifu
>The only way to redeem it would be making the zombie RBG a vessel for the tree demon,
God, if only. That would be really great, but even if it were true the pay off would suck. Just look at what happened with Maja. And she is still around, and sure to suck when she finally becomes relevant again.
Maja was shit to begin with, out of villains they've tried to present as big deals she's the worst and I really hope she stays in secondary character limbo forever. Tree man wasn't anything special, to be fair, but he did have presence and rather cool voice. I liked the theory that he's one of those shadowy figures that were standing behind Lich in that one flashback (pic related)
The only worse major villain I can think of (if we don't count the comet as one) was Too Old/Lemonhope full villain mode Lemongrab. Those episodes in retrospect sucked so much and I'm not sure if the few future Ooo scenes were worth it.
>mfw the Vampire King makes that Wheel of Fortune speech
Here is the synopsis of the next special:
>Moe visits the tree house with a special birthday surprise for BMO. While BMO's mission stands on the brink of disaster, Finn and Jake host a strange guest.
God I hope not, he is the anti-plot.
I like the character a lot, but I don't get what the fuck he is. He's got bird feet, lizard hands, and a lion's head with a man's body? What the hell, Adventure Time.
>Holly Jolly Secrets revealed Ice King's past as Simon Petrikov
Oh man, I forgot how long ago that was. I doubt they could ever really top that.
Lemongrab was good in Too Old, but was boring in Lemonhope, and the philosophical symbolic nonsense was a disappointment. Too Old was great though, because Lemongrab was trying to create a modern society as a blatant sociopath.
But then why did he turn into a simple lion after having his vampiric effluvium extracted via PB's device?
I thought he was vaguely based off of the animals on The World because muh symbolism.
I still find very, very weak the reason why she started hunting down vampires, almost unexplained.
We know during the flashback in the fourth episode that she saved a family from a vampire, but that doesn't really sound like her main reason. During the second episode, the flashback where she talks with the Vampire King it seemed like there was more behind her hate for vampires, something a bit more personal. Not sure if the writers intentionally wanted to leave that unexplained or am I just seeing too many things in freaking nothing.
>We know during the flashback in the fourth episode that she saved a family from a vampire, but that doesn't really sound like her main reason.
It's not, the flashback was showing that liking Simon made her more empathetic to the humans. Since she couldn't protect Simon anymore she protected the humans that, by being the same species as Simon, remind her of Simon. That's why it all started out when a vampire attacked a human that looked like Simon.
And then after that she knew the humans as people themselves and that's when it became more personal, because she actually liked those people she helped send across the ocean.
That was so weird, he's literally about 1 year away from them going OH BOY FINN YOU'RE SO HANDSOME NOW THAT YOU'RE 18 SUCH AN ELIGIBLE BACHELOR YOU DOING ANYTHING LATER FINN HEY FINN COME HANG OUT FINN I THINK WE SHOULD GO OUT FINN HEY FINN
>They won't have him turn PB down when he hits 18 due to all the stuff he knows about her
It's such a shame.
Fuck anyone that doesn't like this episode
The episode was 100% necessary and rollercoasted you with rage and happiness
The evil assholes that killed him off because he was competent had to be defeated. As all evil is, eventually.
Turning 18 doesn't magically make you desirable after several years of shitting the bed, you realize that, right.
It makes you available. It doesn't make you sexy. There's a difference.
So, they gave Marceline a hero archetype? Can't say it's a direction I really like for the character.
In ATworld it might since they made such a huge deal about how Finn is too young for PB. As if the only reason they aren't boning right now is the age difference.
Plus there is a possibility he will literally, physically, magically become sexy pretty soon. Like, poof. It's a cartoon so why not. The crew waited too long to age him properly and that's an instant fix.
Are you kidding? It was heavily explained. She did it to protect Simon, and viewed protecting the other humans as a vicarious version of that. And if you remember, Empress Eyes read out loud all the times she controlled Simon from his diary, etc...
>Like seriously he needs a new love interest
of course but it doesn't look like he'll get one. PB is always on stand by, as long as he doesn't leave her side.
You're naive thinking this show proceeds logically.
Well it does have a lot of deep shit. Its still complicated and PB still treats Finn like a tool or a Mom. Plus if they do change Finn's appearance its going to fuck the marketing.
nah Fubblegum is horrible. but there's evidence various people on the staff, including Pen Ward himself, like the idea. It's romantic and fairy tale perfect and all that junk. There was a time when PB was established as unfeeling and incapable of connection with others, but that mutated into "only with muh vamp" because someone wanted to push a ship. Same could happen with her going all mushy for Finn once he's gone through some "I'm a big kid now" trial.
It's either that, or he ends up alone, which I think they're too weak to do. A new love interest would seem excessive at this point, too much drama and all that. A no drama girlfriend would be best but it looks like it's not allowed outside of fantasy.
>if they do change Finn's appearance its going to fuck the marketing.
I'll be surprised if they'll let him get to 18-21 years without changing it. It's already absurd but eventually I'm sure they'll snap and do something, despite this unconfirmed threat to marketing. The only think to prevent this would be the show getting cancelled fairly soon.
Ships are horrible. and PB doesn't deserve Finn. 7 Seasons and she still doesn't give a shit.
Her and Marceline has a past together that's why they are very close. Marceline knew her before the Candy Kingdom got big. There is a reason behind why PB can talk to her and be herself.
>nah Fubblegum is horrible
fuck you nigger. We might be desperate, but at least we're realistic and we know when it's probable or not.
it doesn't matter if it's realistic is my point. there are hired writers like you who make want to make episodes like Pajama War out of fucking nowhere, and Muto or whoever doesn't tell them no.
I only like Pajama War for my personal ship though. From a logical standpoint it was just stupid to turn the boat and to get Bonnie and Finn all lovey and feely on each other. Even if Fubblegum would happen, I'd at least expect some better evolution, instead of an episode like the Cooler where a 15 year old girl tells PB how bad she is and she suddenly regrets her last centuries of Candy Kingdom ruling.
A ship is something that needs a solid base to be a serious endgame, and everyone who disagrees is a faggot in denial.
> I thought the ep was cute and comfy but I didn't see anything shippy or emotional.
Cute, not emotional. I thought it was just cute, no feels from it. I just thought it was cute and comfy with a dash a friendship. I don't ship anything, boys and girls are aloud to be friends anon.
>Her and Marceline has a past together that's why they are very close.
mmhm, which was invented very late into the series. this instant reconciliation story was invented to explain why we never saw them together before and why PB is someone 100% different around one particular person. it's pretty much bullshit you know. if we're trying to support things with evidence, there's plenty of evidence she loves Finn too and is waiting for him to ripen.
>if we're trying to support things with evidence, there's plenty of evidence she loves Finn too and is waiting for him to ripen.
This. Bubbline is just more popular thanks to the vocal progressive fucks and communities like tumblr, but even by incorporating Stakes they don't have much more evidence than Fubble shippers do.
Finnceline sadly is doomed forever tho
I heard the show was going to continue after the movie, and it'll be a long time before the movie is even done. Season 8 seems a little soon but maybe they'll end it anyway to avoid changing Finn too much.
There was no mention of it again until what, season 5? It's like initially the writers thought
>no Rebecca, that's fucking stupid
but years later they were like
>ehhhh, the ratings are lookin kinda shitty these days, let's do this thing!
It actually began developing since go with me. It was also the same ep where the viewers learn Bonnibel's real name from Marceline of all people. It hinted that they knew each other in a personal level. Since everyone just knew Bonnie as PB.
Sugar was the only one who gave a rat's ass about it. Maybe she didn't even ship it, but she was invested in the emotion of their relationship and that make WWM a good episode.
Outside of that it's been half-assed pandering, at least until Varmints came around. That new writer ships it.
I don't know about how most people actually see Varmints, but I honestly felt like it was something between two friends that haven't seen each other for years afters having lost contact due to one of them never having any free time.
>It actually began developing since go with me
No, it hasn't. That was more in line with Pen's original conception: they were regular friends who annoyed each other. Only with shipper goggles does that episode retroactively mean more.
Marcy is best character
but needs to become more badass again, even Bonnie is better at it nowadays
Fuck you. Finn was the best before they gave him Flame Princess. It looked he was gonna go in a new direction, but actually made the fanbase despise him after Frost and Fire and then trainwwrecked his ass after that.
Stand strong my nigga. We aren't all dead yet.
Fuck. I mean Flame Princess seemed like a good choice for both of them to develop, but then they went absolutely fucking nowhere with it (barely even showed their relationship) and then canned it for the depressed FInn arc.
>Fuck you. Finn was the best before they gave him Flame Princess. It looked he was gonna go in a new direction, but actually made the fanbase despise him after Frost and Fire and then trainwwrecked his ass after that.
Finn is probably my second favourite character, calm down m8. I'm even a Fubblegum shipper, it's just that I find Marceline more interesting.
>mfw some of you faggots opened a Fubblegum thread on reddit two hours ago
The funny thing is the word Fubblegum appeared here like two months ago and isn't really used at all outside of /co/.
I've liked all the seasons of adventure time I've seen. I've seen from season 2 to now. I don't get what people are upset about. I guess it depends on what you expect from adventure time. I don't expect anything, and I'm consistantly amused
Well I'm sorry m8. It's just that his arcs have been a frustrating mess as of late and it seems like both Marceline and Billy topple him in the hero scale.
Well it was used a whole lot more until the latter half of season 5.
You're using that image to b8 people aren't you
Yu know /pol/ lurks around these parrts anon
Fubblegum started being used around here after Pajama War because the ship rose from the dead for a little but. It's a lot easier than typing Finn/Bubblegum all the time, some reason Bubbline is used.
If Bubbline does not happen all the salt I'll be making from their shippers bro
There obviously are other humans, but Finn won't meet them until the end of the show because reasons. He's staying in his laughably tiny little bubble for now.
Shipping on the other hand is an endless fountain of discussion.
>Pachinko is doing his best saving 4chan from itself
I'm pretty sure by that you meant
>doing his best selling our personal info to corporations
I honestly miss the prankster Marcy, she was much better when doing shit and being flirty with Finn.
I still hope both will tell Bubblegum to fuck off in the near future and finally understand that they're made for each other.
She has too much baggage. That's not fair to poor Finn. And he'll die first unless he becomes a vampire too, which is a terrible choice to force on him. They wouldn't make a good couple.
But, they should fugg.
Not him, but that reminds me of how I always believe Marcy would be a seriously depressed alcoholic gf if the AT universe was ours and Finn and Marcy in their late teens.
>But, they should fugg.
I'm pretty sure they'd already fuck if it wasn't a cartoon show. She's really one of those girls.
She drew a sketch of them smooching one time but that doesn't mean that was her otp holmes.
In all the episodes she's written there wasn't al; that much Finnceline, that was mostly in season 1 eps and Go With Me.
>Sugar couldn't stand Finn being lonely, god bless her.
That was....until the Jmoyns nation attacked...
Look at this kid. Look at him. He's gonna get some watered down GF with no development at the very end of the series after getting doublecuked by a pastry and vampire and you're gonna like it
Finn/Marcy are at least super cute friends the few times they appear together in Sugar episodes. It's not shipping but it's not "holy shit we need to keep these two from getting too close, stat".
She liked them as buds but that was kind of lost when she delved into Marcy's backstory and her character became dedicated to that for a solid few years., and that scared everyone away from having Finn hang out with her.
It would have been nice if Sugar did more Finn/Marcy stuff, Nightosphere was great but they were really focused on the mission that episode and didn't have all that much time to bond.
Every post in this thread just makes me want to have a nice Finn and Marcy adventure, without any supposed feels or deepest lore. Just something for them to hang out together as buddies and have Marcy act like an alpha vampire again. I wouldn't even mind her being flirty with Finn like she was in earlier seasons, just cut out all the heavily implied shit AT nowadays has.
Yeah that was Sugar's biggest mistake by far.
Season 1 Marceline a best, and now that awesome personality has been "developed" away. All because Sugar was obsessed with Marcy's repressed sadness and the other writers were like duhhhh, sure, good idea Rebecca. How is it they never know how to recognize a good thing and protect it?
You're genuinely stupid if you don't realize PB is going to want to hook up with him when he hits 18, that's literally the only thing stopping her. It's also retarded on a dozen different levels because she thinks only her thoughts on the matter are correct even though she's
1. Not even human
2. Still wildly beyond his years in age
3. Not respecting his own choices
I hope it becomes a story arc where PB is the one pining for him after he turns her down and gets really unstable because of it, would be genuinely entertaining and interesting.
I don't really get what they've done with Marceline's character.
So in the past she was raised by Simon to be good and all that shit, then hunted down vamps because she wanted to help the humans, and after that she fucked around for a few hundred years (meeting Ash and PB in that time) and ended up in the state she was in during season 1, an apathetic asshole who got her thrills out of messing with people?
But then she seems to have reverted to what is apparently her 'true' self (not early Marceline) very quickly. Is it just that by having friends like Finn and Jake and reconnecting with PB and Ice King she felt more like herself? Or something?
Man asshole Marceline was pure fun in every way, shame she's been dead for a million years and is just a more gentle, relaxed faux lesbian now and that's about it.
>I hope it becomes a story arc where PB is the one pining for him after he turns her down and gets really unstable because of it, would be genuinely entertaining and interesting.
I'm hoping up to this day that the final episodes or the movie is about a gigantic adventure where Finn incidentally finds out that PB's been hitting on him for years now, but for some reason never wanted to say it, and how this makes her go full nuts and try to destroy Ooo alongside her futuristic weapons or whatever she has, making her the supposed final villain before something happens that unleashes the Lich once again, and thus finally enabling the biggest battle in the history of AT, and where PB finally sees what she's done for real and gets along with him again. At the end she finally truely confesses why he tried to hide it for years and Finn puts her down to get together with another girl, like Marceline.
If that happens then the show will tank from the forced relationship shit drama. Like seriously no one really cares about shipping except crazies. The shipping already destroyed most of the fanbase.
Retcon fever. Rewriting the past because the past is too silly and immature, I think. They did the same thing to Bubblegum, filling in the her past recklessly and with no respect to where the season 1 personality fits into the timeline.
As far as they're concerned, season 1 Bubblegum (sweet, funny, and bubbly) and Marceline (bordeline evil, gleeful nihilist) conveniently didn't exist. The timeline just skips from hundreds of years ago to now, at which point these immortal beings are suddenly undergoing all this change, which I agree makes no sense because obviously creatures this old are going to be VERY stuck in their ways.
It's a continuity clusterfuck worthy of fanfiction.
She's my favourite character too. I don't think it's a bad thing having a favourite or prefered character doing wrong stuff as long as it's well done.
I know. Before and after that period she's been established as NOT manic -- emotionless and autistic, a perfect dictator (except for around Marcy but that's an exception). Season 1-3 has become this weird period in the middle where, in addition to being shady and crazy, she had a sense of humor, threw tea parties, and generally understood how to joke around and socialize.
Well its actually a really really bad lesson to teach kids that if they keep harping after someone who only hurts you, uses you, and then treats you only as a friend, then automatically suddenly wants you, only to have you accept them and date/marry them. Its pretty much an anti romantic setting.
Not all love can be double sided, there will always be one sided love, and its better to show that instead of showing a false hope about love. Because it will only harm society like media has been doing since its started.
Of course she's allowed to reject his advances. But it would be sad if the writers are forcing Finn to stand nearby, waiting for the day she comes on to him instead. Because that's the only acceptable situation, natch.
>Well its actually a really really bad lesson to teach kids that if they keep harping after someone who only hurts you, uses you, and then treats you only as a friend, then automatically suddenly wants you, only to have you accept them and date/marry them.
If we say kids shouldn't take GTA seriously then why is this different?
Because AT has long gone stopped being a childish random show like it was in season 1 and 2. They have lessons in their shows, and media will catch that certain one. It is actually very harmful for kids to think that way, since they do watch cartoons not only for entertainment but to learn. And adults and media will certainly see that message, which will cause controversy.
If it happened, it'd get spindoctored to hide the nastiness.
>Finn is so mature now he's finally earned PB's respect
>they're getting along well
>and now they're married!
>remember kids, don't be a manchild or noone will love you
Finn's relationship failure is all his fault in this show. PB's not using him, no no. He's acting childish and all stompings are justified.
God that's horrible. That's even worse than what I'm thinking, its pretty much stating that Finn can't be himself and that he needs to change to get the girl. To the point where he won't have any personality.
imo it's already a bad lesson to have Finn be PB's friend and lackey even after the aforementioned hurting and using. She treats him more like a piece of wood than a friend, but he keeps that smile on his face.
I'm not even a "not muh old AT" fag but I have to say that I didn't really like the whole miniseries at all. I did like some of the songs and the different style for the miniseries intro was neat but I'm real fucking sick and tired of Marceline being all sad and self-hating and all her bullshit. "I Remember You" was shit, "Simon and Marcy" was shit, and then this season there was a whole fucking miniseries of the same type of bullshit. With pretty much anything else that isn't Marceline I still like a lot of newer AT stuff, like the whole Citadel thing and bringing back Prismo in S6, or even the silly ants episode. But for fuck's sake what the fuck happened to Marceline after S1?? This has a lot to do with Rebecca Sugar getting her damn hands on Marceline in S2, IMO.
>Fubblefag during seasons 1 and 2
>mfw their relationship has went off the rails and pushing them together would look messy as fuck without a ton of development
life is suffering
Yeah but it will be an even bigger eyesore if its put as romantic. I mean in earlier seasons it was fine, but goddamn its really pathetic at this point and will only look like an sad attempt for the writers to give Finn a pity end game.
I like Finn a lot but he really deserves better.
>he needs to change to get the girl
Why else would they hammer in how he's a creepy, selfish pervert? All he wants is a girlfriend but that simple desire is treated like the most dangerous thing in the world. I can only conclude the writers are afraid of his developing masculinity, which ought to be a big part of his adult self.
It might not seem so bad if she loved on him and reciprocated all his kindness. Less disgusting than the lapdog relationship that makes me CRINGE.
>oh, it's you Finn
>how long have you been here?
>oh, you want a mission?
>lemme look in my Rolodex for ya...
No! I don't want my Finn near that woman! He needs a quiet girl, someone he can lay his head on, and listen to. Most of all he needs someone who doesn't have 800 or a 1000 years a emotional baggage. Seriously he'll die anyway and both of his choices will push themselves to move on.
having a girl acting like an alcoholic like Marcy is could help him focus on adventures though. He just needs to keep her alive during the evening and fuck her once a week and then ignore her.
I recall someone from the staff saying that with flame shield on he couldn't actually 'feel' FP when he touches her, like it makes his whole body numb or something like that.
That kind of makes Finn seem like a prick if that was enough to make him not care enough to bother with it, he really was only into FP fro her flaming pussy I suppose.
Censorship? In Burning Low when he couldn't fucking wait to sneak off with her, it still wasn't 2lewd because we knew that 14 year old couldn't get at her goodies no matter how hard he tried. Even a kiss almost killed them all.
AMERICA. FUCK YEAH
A girl like Canyon i think would be the perfect fit for finn, someone he can go on adventures with and fight together alongside jake, Someone who compliments his style of character
There are a bazillion ways to fix that problem. I mean it's fiction, do whatever you want.
But it was by design that Finn couldn't put his hands on her, so there was never a solution. Ultimately they broke up because of it and I guess that was the plan.
Damn it pissed me off how she was conveniently touchable in Red Throne (she was poisoned I think? idk) Yeah, tease him more. Rub it in his fucking face. I bet Xayaphone just didn't want to draw her flame effects and failed to consider how painful that situation would be for Finn...
>a character that's shown up twice doesn't have a lot of character
who would have fuckin thought bro
the only reason people like Canyon so much is because they want Finn to get a hoe so he isn't so mopey and all the other ladies are hot garbage or lesbians or both
Her first appearance was ok. She was mysterious, and a little condescending. I could see her as a mentor to Finn, you know someone who could dig under his skin a little.
But yeah in Mama Said she had no personality whatsoever. Bland as toast. Ded.
There are characters that only show up once and who actually are developped and unique. While I agree she was good in her first appearance she just went blank during Mama Said, like a filler. You're right about why people like her so much though.
This. Using her as a mentor to have him finally grow up or at least make him think a bit would be a good thing actually.
Not being able to touch had nothing to do with their breakup. They were having a good time overcoming that problem what with the rock kissing and the throwing caution to the wind here and there.
Don't be naive anon. The show made it clear that was not gonna be enough. Maybe if she'd given him a handy here and there, he wouldn't have gone nuts over his first disturbed little wet dreams.
Not that it's her fault or responsibility at all, but the fact is Finn had no outlet and made this amusing connection between sex and violence. He wanted her to make his dick warm. Really really warm. Don't be calling me a pervert, this is canon.
But that would of happened no matter what because of his owl dream. He could have had a flame invulnerability and been up in her 24/7 but he still would have been tempted to get her to burn down the ice kingdom just to have the dream again and get to watch her do it.
How the fuck did our Finn go from righteous hero who kicks the shit out of evil for fun to whatever the fuck he was during season 5 to what we have now? Does someone hate his guts for being a good person or something?
There was some headsup in a one minute scene in one episode where Finn displays a fucked up perception on how relationships worked while he was still with FP because he read some book. That shit came way outta left field in just one episode and then never became relevant until they broke up and Finn went kiss crazy.
That was one of the first displays of asshole Finn in general IIRC
>because of his owl dream
That was just a silly excuse yo. I think the writers put that in there to take the blame off Finn a little. But the kid was out of control.
If he hadn't been driven by lust, I'm sure he would've realized it wasn't worth it to betray and endanger a loved one over a dream/prophecy.
I mean damn, he at could've at least sat her down and said
>hey babe could you please do this for me? it's super important
The way he wanted to set it up in secret was part of the whole "dirty fetish" allegory. He couldn't tell her why he wanted her to do it because it was embarrassing.
I hate what they've made him become. Like we haven't had a shortage of spaghetti spilling boys lately or something. Why does puberty have to tear him down so much? There are kid out there who aren't affected by it that much.
Maybe Marcy hasn't appeared because she fears he'd hit on her too. Man I fucking hate the writers turning him into this ball of sexual frustration and pain.
>Maybe Marcy hasn't appeared because she fears he'd hit on her too
Wasn't that the point of a whole episode? The one with the date night at the theaters.
With the revelation he's a Space Meteor Buddha or whatever I hope he goes back to being more carefree.
No Finn just wanted to get into the fucking movies. PB was only brought into it because Jake said it was couples night and he had to bring someone he could smooch. Otherwise he'd look "weird" being all by himself.
Why can honestly tell me his development after Flame Princess improved his outlook on life? He seems more like a shell that's afraid to make a move than a righteous adventurer again.
>With the revelation he's a Space Meteor Buddha or whatever I hope he goes back to being more carefree.
But, if he was carefree and enjoying his earthly life, wouldn't it be logical for him to hit on women MORE? To focus on pleasure more than the abstract moral precepts that typically guide him.
Well, because it doesn't apply to him since he apparently only hits on women as a coping mechanism, wtf. A sad Finn is a horny Finn?
>I go into the unknown
>on a sick
Because SU showed they could get away with it. Before that, they only wanted to leave it a maybe possibly very vague thing for some fans because they were afraid of potential backlash and because they weren't sure if their larger fanbase would support it. When SU showed it wasn't a turn-off to most people, even if it wasn't something they really wanted, they decided the time was right to go full lesbian.
>implying it's not endgame material