You know what I just realized? Non of this would have happened if Red Alert was still around. You think he wouldn't have gone super nova in paranoia after noticing Getaway and Atomizer getting together all the time for quick little chats.
>>77740450
goddammit.
I think there was just TOO much secrecy even for Red to handle at this point. Whirl, Getaway, Atomizer, Rodimus and Atomizer chatting, Cyclonus slinking around, Tailgate acting a little weird too and hanging out with Getaway all the time, Megatron the big daddy of evil himself on board with invisible Ravage going wherever he pleases. Red would have had another shut down.
I think Red would have removed his head again after two weeks on board with Megatron.
Also, looking elsewhere. There are some people who still don't understand what's up with the other Lost Light.
Getaway was also grooming Tailgate for months at this point. Nobody thought it was weird that he was hanging around all the time.
>>77740757
>There are some people who still don't understand what's up with the other Lost Light
MTMTE fandom is full of retards that are only in the fandom to ship gay robots and can't follow any of the story elements? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
>>77741043
Umm...I think they meant by "some people" were the other bots on the ship that were not effected.
>>77741127
No, I meant other people in the fandom still thinking he's from another dimension or that he's got a different past before the Lost Light.
>>77740450
well shit.
>>77740687
don't forget Brainstorm's "betrayal" too. Plus the DJD are coming.
on another topic...who do you think is "Noizemaze" the guy that's kidnapped Prowl?
>>77741232
Probably just another random name drop.
>>77741232
>>77740450
>Getaway and Atomizer chatting randomly
>Whirl being sneaky
>Rodimus and Atomizer chatting
>Cyclonus slinking around
>Tailgate acting a little weird
>Swerve goes missing for 7 months
>2nd earth??????
>Megatron the big daddy of evil himself on board
>Invisible Ravage going wherever he pleases
>TWO Lost Lights, everyone dead on the other one
>Two words. Brain. Storm
>The DJD
This would have been hilarious to see Red to go through.
>>77741174
Oh. Wait, people think that? What.
>>77741232
Noisemaze is a pocket dimension named after some part of Cybertronian mythology of a land of chaos inhabited by strange looking beings.
>>77740450
The way Red was shuffled off the title really bothers me. Not only did we not get enough time with him, he got written off in a text afterword. Didn't even get a single panel of him leaving. For one of the original main cast members that was a pretty crappy way to get him off the ship.
>>77742029
He has been around since 1985. Plenty of time for you to bond with him.
>>77742029
>For one of the original main cast members that was a pretty crappy way to get him off the ship.
Gotta make room for the gayer robots and memes dude. What are you a homophobis manchild geewunner?
>>77742218
Red Alert is gay a fuck. Even gets bridal carried by Inferno.
>>77742218
Red alert is part of the orginal transformers Gaycouple
and come on man stop being a dick, of it makes you feel any better cybertronian transfroemrs don't have a gender, strictly.
>>77742307
Yes they do.
>>77742337
Furman said they dont, and even Scotts additions don't paint the picture chicks are a natural thing.
hell even using Solus makes it sound like they are a further aberration, no more natural then onyx's additons
>>77742307
Yes they do. An artificial absence of another gender does not make a companion gender just disappear. Cyberrtonians, save for Arcee, are male.
>>77742421
Just because you have a fetish for Furman doesn't make his closeted homosexual ramblings canon.
I think a lot of the problems people have with Transformers and gender stems from the fact that they're ignorant, willing or otherwise, to two things: that genders other than male and female have socially evolved through history in real life on planet Earth, and that the existence and definition of any specific gender does not solely rely on being an "opposite" of another gender. Without knowledge of those kinds of reference points, the idea of sapient robots developing genders and a population losing a gender while retaining another could seem overwhelming.
>>77742634
So the world that focused on having everything with an intended function has no genders while the ones of religious loons and savages have gender. Understood.
>>77742701
That's not what I said at all.
that's not even what happened in the comic at all.
>>77742728
Cybertron was a world that for most of recorded history was built under the ideas of Functionist and was only deterred from this role by Decepticon revolution which resulted in more free behaviors.
>>77742779
Which had gender throughout its entire history as well.
>>77741232
>on another topic...who do you think is "Noizemaze" the guy that's kidnapped Prowl?
I could be wrong here, but wasn't Noisemaze another name for the Unicorn Trilogy's Sideways?
>>77742810
But not during the time in which the society was focused on being efficent and orderly. Was removed from it after the warring states era by either exile, genocide, or assimilation by having no gender roles so the concept of such was removed.
>>77742851
It was the Japanese name. Wasn't he tied to the Thirteen?
>>77742851
And Star Saber has been the name of a sword and Grindcore the name of Nova Prime's crew. Your point?
>>77742865
Yes, Shortpacked. You're being so wrong that it's easy to use Walky to correct you.
Imagine that. Being corrected by Walky in a completely accurate and factual way. Walky is more correct than you. How does that feel?
>>77742933
But they do not consider themselves male.
>>77742851
The Noisemaze in the comic seems to refer to the location(/mindstate?) that Prowl is trapped in. It is also a reference to, but has no story connection, to:
Galaxy Force Noisemaze, the japanese name of Cybertron Sideways.
>>77742882
You're thinking of Galaxy Force Soundblaster, who was a redeco of the OTHER Planet X futuristic aircraft, who may or may not even be a Thirteen because who the fuck even knows any more.
>>77742966
They pretty explicitly use the male pronoun. Like, this was outright stated in the comics.
>>77743059
Negative. Sideswipe stated problem with Arcee as she was in offense to the existing society norms.
>>77743089
Yes. The norm being "being male". Arcee went against that by being female.
>>77743156
But they were not male. Did not consider themselves male, or any other sort of gender.
I just don't like how red alert was handled. Why do people have to turn that into yet another stupid gender argument.
>>77743156
In Spotlight Arcee she mentions that no one realizes they are using pronouns. The idea was that gender was introduced through her as an entirity and its just been retconned since
>>77743242
Because Red Alert used to be a girl
>>77743265
Cool, Arcee is a meme self-replicating itself through the society.
>>77743271
I will always have his G1 voice in my head. It's great.
>>77743344
Red Alert has voices in her head too.
So what's Cyclonus up to? Clearly he reached for his sword knowing he was going to get shot up.
>>77743400
I hope he isn't dead he has always been my favorite Decepticon and I love the attention MTMTE gives him.
>>77743400
He wants Tailgate to take up his sword and carry on his will.
>>77743400
I thought about that too. He knew that was happening. Nobody likes the ex-con anyway. He was also cornered. Remember when they were fighting Overlord and he said fighting in the hallway was useless?
>>77743513
I think that was because the hallway was narrow
Fighting in hallways never ends well
>>77743400
Maybe he wanted to draw the fire to himself? Dunno.
>>77743662
But they weren't going to just open fire on them if they were just standing there.
>Tries to make Cybertron a better place for all Transformers
>Finally kills Optimus Prime and barely manages to survive
>Gets abandoned by the other decepticons
>Gets a new body from Unicron in exchange for destroying the Matrix
>Gets beaten within an inch of his life by Rodimus Prime and gets tossed into deep space
>Lands in the plasma baths on a dying planet which damaged his sanity chips
>Loses his mind and starts shooting at his own soldiers because he can no longer tell the difference
Megatron had a hard life.
>>77743846
They'd already shot Cyclonus before that.
I'm more interested in knowing how the security knew to come and find them. Megatron and Ravage weren't presumably in any condition to alert security, so did Getaway call them?
>>77744014
Must have. They were called the second Cyc and TG ran from the room.
>>77744014
Getaway and Atomizer probably alerted security the second Cyclonus ran past them and told them that something was up with Megatron- way before they themselves should technically have known about it. I hope thats the case and that that's how they get exposed.
>>77743938
The first one isn't true for that Megatron.
>>77744136
Oops, I got my universes mixed up there. Thanks anon
Who else here owns a copy of Transformers: The Ultimate Guide?
>>77742448
No the fact he wrote it and no one has straight up proven him wrong makes it canon
>>77743265
Not really
Arcee registers to other cybertronians as female, she is different
The caimans and like do not, every time they show up they get weird looks, because they are unnatural.
The addition of solus just makes them alterd like combiners or beast formers
can someone awesome upload #47 in HD scans to the pastabin? Thanks to the storytime anon who screenshoted his iPad.
>>77744497
That was the point though. She outright mentions pronouns did not exist before when talking to Fort Max. I'd post the page if I had my harddrive.
>>77744854
>She outright mentions pronouns did not exist before
That's outright wrong, though.
Also outright wrong: Furman's understanding of gender, since he contradicts himself within a page of his own design. It doesn't matter anyway, since it's been outright retconned that robots girls existed before Arcee.
Deal
With
It.
>>77744969
Still haven't retconned this spotlight for Arcee though.
Speaking of which, blue lipstick's better for her.
>>77745198
They have though, that's what we're talking about.
And I agree. Same with the crazy opening mouth.
>>77744497
>>77745266
How exactly does the whole register thing work anyway? As stated in the spotlight, no one seems to notice that they address Arcee as a she, yet some of the bots are surprised to see Windblade and Nautica in Dark cybertron.
>>77744969
Not retconed, there are transformers that identify as female, that doesn't make them truely female since mainline transformers are genderless
>>77745323
Thats part of my point, Windblade and Chromia are artificially female, they are as much girls as Jazz is black.
Arcee is the only true female transformer.
I want to clairify, that even thogh I don't Consider Chromedome, and Rewind "men" they are masculine beings, i still veiw them like i would an actual homo couple
>>77745686
Arcee's the only true TRANS-former.
>>77745737
Part of the biggest problem with all this shit, is that their robots trying to assign terms or view it through a human lens int he first place is garbage.
I like the quintesson origin the best, simple no bullshit, everything gets explained
>>77745686
one of the early headcanons I had for fembots was that they were born with the biology of being natural incubators for different species identified to be different from the bots by lip color and voice.
>>77745851
>they were born with the biology of being natural incubators for different species
thats really creepy
reminds me of that pregnancy fetish guy we had awhile back
>>77745872
Yeah, I can't really imagine bots clanging. Porn is hot on both homo, xeno and hetero though
>>77745686
>Thats part of my point, Windblade and Chromia are artificially female, they are as much girls as Jazz is black.
maximum wut
It's funny how this still applies:
I think a lot of the problems people have with Transformers and gender stems from the fact that they're ignorant, willing or otherwise, to two things: that genders other than male and female have socially evolved through history in real life on planet Earth, and that the existence and definition of any specific gender does not solely rely on being an "opposite" of another gender. Without knowledge of those kinds of reference points, the idea of sapient robots developing genders and a population losing a gender while retaining another could seem overwhelming.
>>77746041
where do you faggots keep pulling that from
>>77746041
Gender did not start out separate from sex. Once humans learned introspection, the idea of two genders started from two sexes (with the exception of intersex) and then other concepts of gender branched off from there.
Since TFs have no sexes, it's reasonable that the idea of separate genders in the first place would have never developed.I can't believe I'm finally getting drawn into this stupid rehashed argument.
So back to Red Alert...or let's talk about Rescue Bots.
>>77746416
I'll talk about ResCUTE Bots any day over this shit.
Chase a best.
What did you think of the musical episode? I'm glad one was finally made and the VAs aren't half bad. Neither are the songs, I get "And I Fly" stuck in my head sometimes. Also, Frankie can rock it.
Can't wait for next season whenrobots out of disguise
>>77746483Chase IS best.
>>77746483
I'm on the episode where they introduce Blur and ....Sorter??cute Texan one. I hope they stay. It's so nice to see two characters join the four permanent ones.
Next season dinosaurs?
>>77742029
It was a bit quick, but with all the shenanigans Roberts had planned, he clearly needed Red to be off the ship, he probably realized it would be a terrible move if he left Red there and had all this shit going on under his nose.
Or he could have done a sub-plot where Red undertakes some revolutionary treatment to combat his paranoia, and it succeeds so well that he actually stops caring about shit entirely, and becomes the worst security officer ever.
>>77746510Are you correcting my grammar or agreeing
>>77746519
Salvage is the cute Texan one.
The dino episodes should have happened already if you're watching the Blurr and Salvage episodes, unless you're hoping they get dino modes in the next season, in which case me too.
>>77746564
Oh I must have skipped that episode. Do these two stay? I'll be so happy if they do.
>>77743441
I think it's possible, but at the same time, look at how many other characters have survived worse situations.
>>77746026
there are "Female transformers" for the same reason there are beast transfromers, and combiners, a prime got obsessed with a gimmick and bestowed it on her followers.
These are not natural states of Transformer "biology" they are"Artificial"
Ratrap turns into a rat shaped altmode but he is not an actual rat, similar, Windblade looks female but shes not actually female, she is a feminine how ever (not saying shes really male but a genderless robot with feminine characteristics)
>>77746595
They leave, but we see them in several episodes and they have a big part in the season finale.
>>77740450
He would have just lost his head again.
>>77746564
>spoilerI was agreeing, no worries.
I'm always torn between having Chase or Blades be my favorite. But I just enjoy Chase being a Prowl like person without all the murder and backstabbing....and rude and dangerous attitude.
>>77746742
>I'm always torn between having Chase or Blades be my favorite.
Anyone have #47 Scans?
>>77747384
The Transformers - More Than Meets the Eye 047 (2015) (3 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Phantasm)
http://tusfiles.com/1wulcz6spteq
>>77747417
>http://tusfiles.com/1wulcz6spteq
Thank you kind sir.
I still hold out for these four to one day be in Prime or MTMTE. Shut up! I still have my fanfiction!
>>77747697
One day.
Everyone is worried about Cyclonus being dead. The only one I can assure you is dead is going to be Getaway. Whirls going to get him. He'll just kill him, from musel memory, and claim no idea why he did it. Better yet, Getaway and Atom will have their little court with Rodimus, like they did Brainstorm. And when they are dismissed to head back to Cybertron, Whirls going to murder them both very Privelty. Everyone will think they left the whip already, and nobody will care/ask questions after that point.
>>77747697
>>77747709
as soon as they become the longest runing TF-show
>up yours G1!
and the funniest thing: it doesn't even have any Decepticons
but how would they introduce them?
new sparks?
Autobots which crashed on an alien planet and decided to help the alien there?
a crew of wide-eyed idealists?
>>77748089
Honestly, just Whirl killing Gettaway with his h̶a̶n̶d̶s̶ claws is enough retribution and satisfaction from me. That and Atomizer tortured by something.
>>77748277
So what if it comes to light Whirl was involved? He'd face disciplinary action. Do you think Megatron would order surgery to give him new hands just to fuck with his head?
>>77748593
Given Whirl tried to kill him six months after he came on board, and Megatron didn't take him to task for that (the beating was enough).
I think he'll probably let Whirl off gently. Only a couple of poetry nights, and the head of security job. (The job's practically cursed anyway)
>>77740450
AND the second security chief got killed. Trailcutter.
SEEMS FISHY
>>77746608
Dude you've got sex and gender mixed up.
Transformers are sexless, or as an old-timer like Furman would say, genderless. Ignore Scott's ramblings.
On pre-Golden Age Cybertron there were bots using she and he, and when Nova took over, he wanted things streamlined. Everyone has a function, everyone born from that day onward would just be assigned 'he', and never mentioned an alternative. That's why they struggle with the she-pronoun outside of Cybertron.
Cybertron is artificially genderless, but in reality it's just one bot's idea of an utopia. Everyone in their right place and gay. Blame Nova and Galvatron.
>>77742851
>>77743059
I'm only using the name Noizemaze as a stand in name until we find out the identity of the character.
>>77743344
I always read Red as Rob Paulsen's Donatello.
>>77746553
that would have been amazing and hilarious and then Red can go...fuck this I was right all along.
>>77748891
RIP Drunklard.
Anyone have a link to the pastebin with the comics?
>>77748958
So how come the various times where there were undead none of them were female?
>>77750033
This would be a case of your own limited perception of what is female. I'm pretty sure that if you see a mech like this and there's no face detail like lipstick, or lashes, you'd see it as male.
In the Drift mini, which's cast has plenty of pre-Golden Age mechs in the form of the Circle of Light, there are more feminine mechs too.
>>77750074
Like here. You can see several mechs who are given feminine traits, the one with a weird pose at the upper right, the one with lipstick above Wing, and some of the posing ones further away.
We also have male characters who would look feminine if we weren't already acquainted. It's a matter of the readership's perceptions.
>>77750091
But those characters are male and you are just assuming they are female because your species' gender stereotypes. They use male pronouns consistently.
>>77749930
Here you go https://mega.nz/#F!Ax4nUCCT!_5vN--HYA1R6ahJUNcx-wQ
>>77750107
Yes? I don't see why the 'but' is there, sounds like you're agreeing with me.
>>77750135
Because there are not females. What would register as female to a human is male to Cybertrons.
>>77750142
So you're talking about the incident when Skids thought Firestar is male?
>>77750074
Are there male Transformers that wear lipstick?
>>77750033
(jesting fuck you for making me dl Heart of Darkness)
We have seen assumedly female undead, though.
>>77750173
I don't recall one, no. Except Overlord with the black on his upper lip, but that barely counts since it's probably ink for stylization's sake.
>>77750212
But that is a strong support for your cause. It was good for you to remember Heart of Darkness.
>>77750219
Yeah, I only did though because I recently bought the IDW collection it was in.
Those faces burn in your memory man.
>>77750107
In case you're talking about the fembots in Drift, we can't really know. They were never addressed with any pronouns.
>>77750328
This made me all kinds of uncomfortable.
Also, I highly doubt this would be an efficient or effective way of refilling your care up.
It'd be more effective to just get out of your car and fill it yourself.
>>77750397
But what if there is no driver in the vehicle and it is an automated transport?
>>77750328
At least you spoilered your porn
>>77750438
It isn't porn. Equivalent would be inserting a food tube into a sick person's mouth.
>>77750455
Anon, do you not find eating pleasurable?Also food tubes are fucking hot
>>77750491
If you are a degenerate.
And still isn't a sex thing.
>>77750499
Eating. Is. Hot.
>>77750550
Need to get those hormone levels checked out.
>>77750550Degenerate
so what voices do you tend to imagine for the characters when you read?
here's what i imagine a mix of LA and Vancouver VA's.
Megatron - Corey Burton (Animated Megatron)
Rodimus - Kirby Morrow (Miroku)
Ultra Magnus - JK Simmons (Tenzin)
Drift - Eric Bauza (a less thick accented version of his Drift)
Ratchet - Jeffrey Combs (Prime Ratchet)
Swerve - Charlie Day
Whirl - Brian Drummond (Shockblast)
Cyclonus - Rick Wasserman (a mix of his Arishock and Thor)
Tailgate - Brad Swaile (Lan Hikari)
Rewind - Lucien Dodge (Waver Velvet)
Chromedome - Michael C. Hall (Dexter)
Brainstorm - J. Michael Tatum (Okabe from Steins; Gate)
Nautica - Michelle Ruff (Yoko Littner)
Ravage - Lee Tockar (a lighter Ravage from BW)
Skids - Matthew Mercer (Kiristugu Emiya)
Trailbreaker - TF2 Engineer voice
Nightbeat - Steve Blum (Spike)
First Aid - Tara Strong (Batgirl)
Fort Max - Patrick Warburton (Brock Sampson)
Red Alert - Rob Paulsen (Donatello)
Getaway - Trevor Devall (an Australian Friagne from Shakugan no Shana)
Prowl - David Kaye (Treize Kushrenada)
Overlord - Ron Perlman (Slade)
Tarn - Keith David (Goliath)
Star Saber - George Newbern (Superman)
Pharma - John DeLancie (Q)
Tyrest - Gary Oldman (Lord Shen)
>>77750839
>Tara Strong
fuck you, forever
>>77750839
crap I forgot Rung - he's Wally Wingert (Hank Pym)
>>77750869
all of them should be voiced by women,
just because
>>77750923
Only the ones that are mapped to being youthful children.
>>77750932
you don't want Cree Summer to voice Rodimus?
>>77750932
I imagine Tailgate and Rewind would have female VA's in a Japanese dub.
>>77750947
No. Rodimus isn't even black.
>>77750956
so, who of the MTMTE-crew is blackß
>>77750950
>Rewind
>female
That's so fucking wrong. Get out tumblr
>>77750969
Blaster. Everyone else is normal.
>>77750975
Same bodytype as Flip Sides and Rosanna lmao
>>77750975
no they'd still be male despite having female actresses. I still imagine First Aid as such. I mean characters like Naurto and Luffy have female VA's and no one bats an eye. besides they still have male voices in English.
also i fucking hate Tumblr. I'm very anti-SJW.
>>77750992
that's racist anon and you should feel bad
it's obvious that the black guy is Getaway
>>77751014
>hate tumblr
>post gif from tumblr
>alright I'm not judging
I'm just real goddamn tired that gay men are seen as feminine. A high-pitched male voice but goddamn no woman voicing a gay guy. What the fuck
>>77751031
New Zealand isn't in Africa, silly.
>>77751042
>implying only Africa has black people
You seen Australia, m8?
>>77751032
That is what uke means. Submissive.
>>77750950
Definitely tailgate, but probably not rewind.
>>77751032
This has nothing to do with sexual orentation, i figured they're small, youthful and there aren't many fembots for female VA's some characters could work like that.
i keep saying they have male VA's when i read in English. i'm a fan of both western and Japanese voice acting.
>>77751052
Very black.
>>77751069
Rewind is old as fuck m8
>>77751059
>getting your japanese knowledge from fucking yaoi
>comics made by women for women
Uke only means receiver. Seme and uke as terms come from martial arts. If I hit you, does that make you submissive?
>>77751069
What this one said >>77751080
>>77751080
i know but his design is so tiny, it looks youthful...think like Koenma from Yu Yu Hakusho. he looks yong but is old as hell.
also Scott McNeil is awesome. i imagine him as Riptide.
>>77750839
I like some of the choices, but personally...
Megatron - Corey Burton
Rodimus - Troy Baker or Nolan North
Ultra Magnus - Michael Ironside
Drift - Paul Dosbon
Ratchet - Jeffrey Combs
Swerve - John Milani
Whirl - Jason Marsden
Cyclonus - Liam O'Brien
Tailgate - Michael Sinterniklaas
Rewind - Jason Michas
Chromedome - Michael C. Hall (Dexter)
Brainstorm - James Urbaniak
Nautica - Chiara Zanni
Ravage - Lee Tockar (a lighter Ravage from BW)
Skids - Clancy Brown
Trailbreaker - John DiMaggio
Nightbeat - Steve Blum (Spike)
First Aid - Sam Vincent
Fort Max - Patrick Warburton (Brock Sampson)
Red Alert - Rob Paulsen (Donatello)
Getaway - Trevor Devall (an Australian Friagne from Shakugan no Shana)
Prowl - Between Nolan North or Troy Baker (whichever Rodimus isn't)
Overlord - Mark Hamill
Tarn - Keith David (Goliath)
Star Saber - Patrick Seitz
Pharma - Robin Atkin Downes
Tyrest - S Scott Bullock
These are some of my choices (some I left alone).
>>77751093
Yes. There are the ones the strike offensively and those who attempt to break throws and land softly.
>>77750328
Rewind should have a deep and manly voice which could put Optimus and Megatron to shamewho was the guy who voiced black beetle?he should be Rewinds voice actor
Tailgate should be Tara Strong and Whirl should be voiced by Cree Summer
>>77751110
well thanks. I'm glad you liked some of my castings.
>>77751103
>google character
>looks like Tailgate
This is more like what Rewind and Chromedome look like
The next Transformers show should only have meme VAs like Yuri Lowenthal, Johnny Yong Bosch, Scott McNeill, Steve Blumm, Patrick Wartburn, Tara Strong, Cree Summers, and Nicole Sullivan.
>>77751176
It's still weird that Yuri is a man's name;
I mean, you'd think Yuri was a girls name
>>77751176
I really dislike that term meme VA.
just because they're the more popular doesn't make them bad.
but i wouldn't mind seeing all of them in the next show provided we get some obscure newcomers or underused talents. that's what i loved about RID's voice cast.
>>77751186
Proud Russian name.
Respectfully request updated reading list picture
>>77751233
Nope, only have one from around August
Anyone like to hear random fans do readings of the comics? The only I find good (and I say that as "talented" becasue he actually practices) is Crashboombang on tumblr. Sadly he doesn't do TF anymore (he hasn't even read past #25 or so) and just does Undertale things.
Such a shame.
>>77751110
>Overlord - Mark Hamill
That's a bold choice, but didn't Roberts say he wrote Pharma as sounding like BTAS Joker?
Brainstorm will ALWAYS be G1 Brainstorm in my head. High pitched and nasally.
"Hey! That was MY idea! I'll sue!"
>>77750839
Round 2 but with Not-RID now.
Prowl - David Kaye
Bumblebee - Johnny Yong Bosch
Arcee - Grey Delisle (Azula)
Starscream - Steve Blum
Optimus Prime - Peter Cullen
Sideswipe - Michael Bell
Alpha Trion - Malcolm McDowell or John Hurt
Metalhawk - Jonathan Holmes (Arthur Trine from Gundam SEED Destiny)
Kup - R. Lee Ermey
Jazz - Phil LaMarr
Sky Lynx - Tim Curry
Cosmos - Patton Oswalt
Jetfire - Troy Baker (WFC Jetfire)
Tracks - Michael McConnohie
Hardhead - Kevin Conroy
Blurr - Richard Ian Cox (Quicksilver)
Ironhide - Jim Cummings (Jonah Hex)
Wheeljack - John DiMaggio (Sandman)
Windblade - Kari Wahlgren (Celty)
Chromia - Kathleen Barr (Lady Jaye)
Aileron - Amanda Celine Miller (Sailor Jupiter)
Victorion - Estelle
Mistress of Flame - Marina Sirtis
Thundercracker - Crispin Freeman
Soundwave - James Spader (the classic voice doesn't fit)
Galvatron - Frank Welker (AOE Galvatron)
Skywarp - Kyle Rideout
Brawl - Richard Epcar (Batou)
Needlenose - Maurice LaMarche (Mortimer Mouse)
Laserbeak and Buzzsaw - Keith Szarabajka and John Kassir
Scoop - James Arnold Taylor (Obi-Wan Kenobi)
Devastator - mix between Fred Tatasciore and David Kaye.
Nova Prime - Michael McConnohie (Charles Zi Britannia)
Jhaxius - Willem Dafoe
Bludgeon - Mark Hamill
Spike - Ward from Agents of SHIELD
Marissa - Jennifer Hale
Ayana - Cree Summer
Blackrock - John Michael Higgins
Uhhh...did we talk about the fact this isn't Cyclonus's hand?
>>77751524
why is Tailgate grasping for the sword?
>>77751531
Ask Froid
So... what the fuck happened with Tailgate?
Issue 50 promises stuff, but looking forward to this 2-parter (err, three-whatever) conclusion
And more Grimlock and Scavengers please
>>77751690
Weaponized his optical discharge
>>77751531
Tailgate would have the needles in that hand.
>>77743441
>Decepticon
HE'S NOT A DECEPTICON!
And yeah, he problably won't die. But who knows, RIGHT?? IT'S MTMTE !
>>77751690
Someone feel free to correct me: since Cyclonus repaired Tailgate's spark with his sword, maybe it got supercharged and somehow still connected to the sword and Cyclonus's spark. Now that Cyclonus got shot, more of that energy moved into Tailgate and the end result was this explosion.
>>77751690
He's giving into absolute despair, and becoming a Witch.
Then Whirl will have to make a contract to become a magical girl to defeat Tailgate.
>>77751713
Beomes Cyclops?
>>77751743
I've re-read 47# like 20 times now, and I'm still not picking up on any clues like Roberts said there would be. Anyone else?
>>77751743
The IDW Cyc isn't a Decepticon, but Cyclonus usually is. Therefore he can easily say Cyclonus is his favourite Decepticon.
>>77751772
Madoka is pretentious weeb trash.
伝説の女性戦士、ウィンドブレード
>伝説の
I'm trying to find a translation but with little avail.
What the fuck is the definition/meaning of profference?
>>77752194
Gift Giving.
>>77752194
the act or state of being preferred
what getaway is saying is that to state your desire to be someone's conjux, you must give them a gift that says, "hey, i like you. i like you waaay more than most other people."
>>77752225
>>77752229
I mean the legit translation. Right now it seems like this is a made up word.
>>77752229
So what are the levels TF relasohips? Did Getaway make Tailgate think they were going to get to the level of Rewind and Chromdome?
>>77752268
It isn't a level thing you moron
>>77752268
>relasohips
relationships. I'm still recovering from TG last night.
>>77752267
Roberts makes up lots of words.
>>77752283
It isn't? I thought you were either
A- Super Duper in love (Rewind/Chromedome)
B- Kinda dating (Brainstorm/Quark)
C- Look! I have a girlfriend (Nectoria/Firestar)
>>77752334
B and C are blatantly wrong.
>>77752334
Oh lord you're wrong.
Conjunx is romantic love, Amica is platonic.
Now with what we know, I'd figure Brainstorm has performed his half of the ritual but never got the guts to ask for Quark to complete it.
>>77752334
>>77752358
Speaking of Conjux Endura, I'm kinda wondering what the relationship betwen Proxima and her friend, Acceleron, is like.
>>77752468
Satellite.
>>77752468
>friend
Gal pals. Alright.
>>77752358
>Conjunx is romantic love, Amica is platonic.
Oh. So my question still stands. I don't see why TG was going along with GA? It's like you're about to marry someone you REALLY don't like/still have a crush on the other guy. I know TG is still young but he can't think that GA is his only and last chance for a relationship?
>>77752358
>Now with what we know, I'd figure Brainstorm has performed his half of the ritual but never got the guts to ask for Quark to complete it.
That's so sad and so cute at the same time.
>>77752267
I just told you. The literal definition is the state or act of being preferred. When someone or something puts something else above all else.
>>77752526
Isn't that preference? Profference seems like a different thing
>>77752517
Brainstorm is a stalker
>>77752517
Conjunx Endurae are not necessarily a monogamous relationship.
And I figure that romantic severance is as possible as platonic is.
>>77752547
According to the Oxford Dictionary "proffer" means to offer, to present for acceptance, so it would be a made up word for giving a gift.
>>77752704
Not really made up. It's a linguistic construct which already exists.
>>77752851
Like trifurcate?
>>77752468
seriously they need to repaint the Perceptor mold as her.
>>77753053
But she is a non-entity and seems to have a satellite or similar altmode instead of an exploration van.
>>77753078
i don't care if they had a character or not, i'd like a toy of it.
as for the alt. mode...maybe a future Perceptor that turns into a satellite toy could happen?
>>77751690
He discovered he has a screaming cry super powers like Sailor Moon or Sailor Chibi-Moon.
You all acting like its a bad thing Tailgate had magical tears. I don't care how he fixes Cyclonus, but they better die together then if he can't.
>>77754441
if cyclonus actually dies i'll be surprised. that is quite the change for cyclonus and tailgate's original plan of existence (ie being dead)
>>77755928
what?
>>77755928
Cyclonus has only Whirl and Tailgate to interact with while Tailgate has a larger circle of characters he can interact with. Killing Tailgate effectively isolates Cyclonus so there is nothing to do with him, while having eggplantrabbitdemon die gives Tailgate more angst without rendering him a dead end for development.
>>77756050
sorry badly articulated
what i mean is, i'm surprised that this sort of thing is happening considering tailgate was originally supposed to die like twenty something issues ago
>>77756054
there could have been an arc where whirl prods cyconus' shell and brings him back to normalcy effectively healing both of them through their interactions and progress
whirl is clearly getting better and was intended to have a very close relationship with cyclonus. perhaps, even be the original intended partner for him.
>>77756156
Shipperfag, stop letting your OTP delude your understanding of characters and events
>>77756201
hahaha i guess it kind of came off like that
i dont really ship them, though i guess i can see why people do? i honestly think whirl is too horrible of a person to every fully repair
in any case we all know who the true otp is
>>77756156
A long time ago, an anon came up with an ending scenario for Cyclonus and Whirl.
Basically, it'd be Whirl near death, and begging for Cyclonus to make good on his promise to one day kill him.
To really hammer it in, it'd include a flashback of Whirl pre-empurata/pre-life ruination, enjoying his time as a clock maker.
>>77756129
really? well thankfully that hadn't happened then.
>>77756280
that would hit me in the feels.
>>77755928
Are there more of these tarot cards?
>>77756238
>Dratchet
they're perfect for each other
I don't care what canon says
>>77750839
>>77751473
>Crispin Freeman
>Not Cyclonus
You had one fucking job m8
>>77756465
sorry but i'll be honest, I only hear him as Thundercracker. I get the Alucard comparison between Cyclonus and Alucard but I hear him as Thundercracker.
>>77756376
nakorrrr on tumblr
Who are the Ophanim of Transformers?
>>77756539
Cool, thanks.
>>77750839
>Swerve - Charlie Day
You fail, all your other choices are not disqualified as well.
>>77751339
Roberts did say (or might have been Milne) that they imagined Pharma as voiced by Hamil and that he used a calm talking voice for the most part but sounded Joker-level crazy once he went off the deep end at Delphi.
>>77757685
what's wrong with Charlie as Swerve?
I mean i imagine he'd have a high pitch voice and he's a bartender and Charlie on Sunny works at a bar too...i thought it'd work.
let me guess you imagine John Mulaney?
>>77757984
>let me guess you imagine John Mulaney?
Yes.
He's just too perfect, there can be no other.
>>77758025
My uncle Mike.
>>77758025
Mulaney is my 2nd choice.
>>77759086
>>77759086
>>77759098
It works so much better the other way around
>>77759137
But Cyclonus would never fit through the gap.
>>77759137
Why? Cyclonus could hold himself in a fight with Overlord and possibly win if he gets spacing advantage. Tailgate cannot so he is intentionally throwing his life away to lure Overlord into the trap of orbital drop.
>>77759086
>>77759098
Is this an alternate version of the Overlord arc.
god it's just as depressing.
>This Is Why We Cant Have Nice Things Edition
Alright guys, post those moments that just made you say "Fuck you, IDW"
>In a flashback at the start of season 2, Drift telling Pipes not to make him "put his foot down."
>Trailbreaker shakes Chromedome's hand
>The recruits in LSOTW who I wanted to see live all died....while the one guy I gave no fucks about survived.
>Introducing, and then killing, Hellbat...and then introduce Deathsaurus and The Breastforce immediately after
>>77760765
You care too much about comic books
lighten up bro!
>>77760765
>>Trailbreaker shakes Chromedome's hand
What about it?
>>77750975
Why would that be tumblr. Tumblr revels in Rewind and Chromedome's gayness.
>>77761778
Rodimus and co. went back in time in the belief Brainstorm (who was revealed to being a Decepticon spy at the time) was going after a young Orion Pax so the Decepticons could win the war.
Rodimus and co. meet up with Orion and his friends, including Trailbreaker (who was killed later on by the DJD). Rodimus tried to have it so Trailbreaker would not go to the planet where he and the DJD meet and live, but after shaking Chromedome's hand (which was modified to wipe the other person's recent memory clean of their involvement), TB forgot everything Rodimus warned him about, ensuring his grizzly fate.
>>77761966
>Rodimus' face when he cries out Trailbreaker's name as they get hauled off by the time jump
It's like the writer gets off on toying with our hearts
It's not enough to kill the characters, he has to smash rock salt in the wound besides
>>77760765
For me it's definitely everything Optimus does in IDW.
>>77760765
Hellbat's role would've been better filled by Scourge (Black Battle Convoy), especially if McCarthy hadn't utterly wasted the opportunity to go full camp with EoS.
>>77761966
Oh so it DID erase his memory. But Roddy knew that's what they brought CD for. Did CD forget he had that attached to his hand or what?
>>77750173
Does he count?
>>77750328
>>77763713
>Oh so it DID erase his memory.
That's right.
> But Roddy knew that's what they brought CD for.
Rodimus brought Chromedome along for, among other reasons, to ensure the timeline isn't affected; they wiped out Orion's and his friends' memories of Rodimus and co's interference.
>Did CD forget he had that attached to his hand or what?
No. When Rodimus and co. were just about to jump to another time, Trailbreaker nudged in to get his handshake from Chromedome (who was caught off-guard), erasing his memories of the recent events (as well as Rodimus' warning), much to Rodimus' (and the readers') horror and anguish.
>>77763888
...Oh. Well then...Now I'm sad again.
>>77763730
I hate that I find him hot as fuck.
I have a feeling everyone is always a girl in these thread. Being female myself, its just a hunch I guess. Am I wrong?
>>77764296
I hate that he's dead forever.
>>77764660
We're all little girls here.
>>77760765
-Prowl
-Starscream is made King of Cybertron
-Chromia turns out to be a terrorist
-Combiner Wars wasting Menasor's potential
-Windblade
-NAILs
-Human-Decepticon alliance.
>>77764296
Agreed. Then again isn't everyone in mtmte hot?
>>77764923
Yes.
So are the comics any good? I'd at least like to try them out.
>>77765113
Would you like to start with something serious, silly, or maybe character spotlights?
>>77765193
serious first
>>77765220
If you want to start from the beginning, read the old ongoings, if you want a quickie short series to see if you like the comics first without getting in too deep, Last Stand of the Wreckers, if you want to start on the more recent serious stuff Robots in Disguise which is now just called the Transformers.
>>77764923
crock, first aid, Tesarus, mainframe?
>>77765279
Yup, yup, yup, and double yup.
Please remind me, the Brainstorm on the LL right now was a con spy, told the DJD to swing over, but he also never killed anyone himself and just wanted Megs to get murdered, not the whole ship?
>>77765563
Current living Brainstorm is was a Decepticon spy but *never* contacted the DJD. The other, now dead, Brainstorm is the one who called the DJD to get Overlord. Neither of the two Brainstorms ever killed anyone directly as far as we know right now.
>>77765273
okay. I shall check them out.
>>77765707
Oh ok good. My favorite character is still pure. So WHY did the other BS think it was a good idea to cal the DJD???? In hopes that they would be chill, kill Overlord and just leave?
>>77765845
>So WHY did the other BS think it was a good idea to cal the DJD????
Even this Brainstorm didn't know and guessed it was caused by something that happened slightly differently on the other LL.
>In hopes that they would be chill, kill Overlord and just leave?
That was the agreement he made with the DJD, yes. They were supposed to show up, take Overlord and leave without hurting anyone but they showed up drugged out of their minds and saw Drift and lost control.
>>77765901
>drugged out of their minds
Ooo?
>>77751774
Same, the only things that I assume are clues are those extra panels that have Whirl's holomatter avatar showing up all over the place.
>>77765921
You really need to re-read the issue dude, but yes they were juiced up on special enriched nucleon which made them stronger/more aggressive and apparently also affected their ability to control themselves. Tarn admits that he really did intend to just take Overlord and leave but couldn't stop killing once they saw Drift (who is also on the DJD's list of course).
>>77747697
>>77747709
>>77748131
I just noticed that Whirl should probably be like...three times bigger.
>>77764903
>-Human-Decepticon alliance.
I don't know i think thats kinda intresting...
So any new TF shows coming out? Whats going on at Hasbro HQ?
>>77767132
They're cancelling Robots in Disguise early and we are getting some movie tie in cartoon thing at some later point. No real details yet.
>>77767206
Ha. About time. You can't go full PG13 and dark to a K/PG show with puppies and mooses...moosie? Mooseiess. Plus with characters that don't make any senece. Heat Wave and gang can't help the war out, but a rookie cop and felon punk can? Ok. And no Knockout? Shaaame on you. Shame.
I hear theres a new Rescue Bots season? Bay is working on TF5 (for what thats worth I guess)
You guys see Shia LeBouf watch TF3 Dark Side of the Moon? He looked confused, angry, board and then he took a nap in the isle cause he couldn't take it anymore.
>>77767297
>You guys see Shia LeBouf watch TF3 Dark Side of the Moon? He looked confused, angry, board and then he took a nap in the isle cause he couldn't take it anymore.
I saw him when he was watching Surf's Up and he seemed so happy, it was adorable.
>>77767598
The four stages of Dark Side of the Moon:
Why am I in this.
Why is anyone in this.
WHY. WHAT IS HAPPENING.
Zzzzzzzz.
>>77768287
looks like everyone else fell asleep in the last pic too
>>77742218
Yes
>>77750875
Rung is played by Zach Hadel
>>77751329I'm playing Ultra Magnus and Whirl in an adaptation of mtmte season 1 on tumblr. Bretty fun.
>>77769039
Links bro! Links! I wanna hear your Whirl.
>>77760765
>All Hail Megatron's halfassed reboot thing
I don't even mind AHM as a story, just how it was a halfassed reboot and they then went on to pretend it's all one mythos still
>Letting the writers do whatever they want with Japanese Transformers
>This somehow results in Headmasters being copied from Marvel Headmasters, everyone else just gets the shaft
I don't mind Star Saber being a religious nut, but killing Dai Atlas right off the bat, Hellbat dying in a shitty book and the lack of actual usage of Dezaras and the Breastforce so far hasn't impressed me either. I can understand Getaway being a new character over what Lightfoot was in Masterforce, but I still half-expect Cancer and Minerva (or likewise) to show up only to kill each other in two panels somewhere in a random story.
>pacing issues before and during Combiner Wars
Before Combiner Wars the TF ongoing seemed to go all over the place with the pacing, but even the Combiner Wars issues had odd pacing. The entire thing should have be a separate ongoing, in my opinion as it was a whole lot of work for nothing. The only thing that has changed was Prowl no longer being a part of Devastator and now everyone's like 'we got combiners now!'
>Starscream seeing Bumblebee because of the 'pressure' of leading Cybertron
Why would Starscream's craziness manifest as an Autobot? He has little history with Bumblebee either and it hardly seemed Starscream respected him that much when Bumblebee led Cybertron for a while.
>>77760765
>Alright guys, post those moments that just made you say "Fuck you, IDW"
IDW getting the contract.
>>77769084http://armouredswampert.tumblr.com/post/107777530822/faded-love-letters-credits-perceptor
Stakeout and Hubcap are dead bots walking 'cause they're both Literally Whos.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say either Roadbuster or Impactor is going to bite it too.
>>77769872
In which case, only Springer and Kup have a chance to survive. They're the only ones marked for survival, by editorial mandate, hasbro, or writers.
>>77767206
They're not cancelling RID, they're just turning it's third season into the beginning of Transformers: Micronauts.
They're going to use the Transformers world to spin-off into a bigger "Hasbro continuity".
>>77770146
So Transformers Prime gets dragons shoved up it's ass and RID gets... tiny people.
I can live with that.
>>77769872
dat Brawn
i want a toy.
>>77770221
That's not Brawn. It's Guzzle, the sparkabot tank.
>>77770236
There was a DOTM Guzzle toy which took some cues from the LSOTW Guzzle design.
Specifically the tube things behind his head.
>>77770539
>triggered
Get it away!
>>77766142
Prowl and chase would get along well,
until Chase gets behinds Prowl's schemes
Why is Marisa older than Verity if she was a little girl during All Hail Megatron?
>>77770146
Had to run so I posted fast, now that I'm home.
I went to CTN last week and met with Jose Lopez, who is the art director for TFP and RID, and he mentioned that he doesn't work at Hasbro anymore but he did concept work for the TF Micronauts thing before leaving (the art director of RID now is Walter Gatus, who has been with the crew since early Prime so don't worry it's in good hands).
RID will introduce more about minicons and the storyline will lead to the Micronauts crossover that launches the Transformers; Micronauts show, they want to do a Hasbro-universe similar to the wider universe of 90s Justice League cartoons.
So yeah rumors about cancellation of RID/Aligned aren't completely true, they're just moving on to the next step of the plan.
>>77771068
Not a little girl, at least late teens if not early 20s.
Verity's probably a couple of years younger than her.
>>77763888
fucking hell Chromedome.
>>77767132
The next cartoon will probably be more Movieverse inspired....unless they get good writers, have a good character roster or my favourite VA's on board...I'll pass.
>>77771068
she was a college liberal back during All Hail Megatron.
A GAY RAINBOW
FOR GAY ROBOTS
Do you think Roberts is going to address the possibility of another matrix half from the other LL crew? Afterall, it's not a copy, but also the original.
>>77771620
DJD have/destroyed it. Keep you're shirt on
>>77771068
Bad writing.
>>77773957
More like sliding timescale and fear of aging youthful characters out of relatability
>>77774032
>sliding timescale
Good to know they're taking both the good and bad from the Big 2.
>>77771068
Because Marissa wasn't a little girl during AHM. Why would you even think that?
>>77748891
> Security chief becoming defense against the dark arts teacher
>>77750839
Only a few:
Rodimus - H. Jon Benjamin
Megatron - Michael Ironside
Swerve - Scott Mcniel
Kup - Ed Asner/ Kurtwood Smith
Whirl - Steve Buscemi
Overlord - whoever so long as they do a good Bane voice
Tarn - The guy that was Megatron in Beast Wars
Ironhide - Michael K Williams (Omar)
>>77751473
I like your Kup
>>77775526
Bane as Overlord.
THE FIRE RISES!
and thanks.
>>77775526
But Tarn is the big guy for you that wears a mask
>>77760765
The only thing that makes me say "Fuck you, IDW" is the women's plot. I just want it to make sense in the story line. I can deal with most of the shenanigans but I just want that to make sense.
>>77775645
There is no escape. Only a demiurge resculpting the material plane into a new form
>>77764660
Lotsa grills, lotsa faggots.
>>77765273
>the old ongoings
Why in god's name would you want to do that? Costa gave no shits about what he was writing about.
I recommend Last Stand, and the Phase Two stuff. MTMTE and exRID.
>>77765965
Yeah, the nuke is what makes the DJD so powerful. That's how they can kill a shipful of guys.
>>77771237
Are we really surprised, no TF series has ever made it to season 4,
>>77775778
Furman's works were really good.
>>77775638
Yeah but I prefer the Bane voice with Overlord's nihilistic sadism, whereas BW Megatron's voice, while also sadistic, has a more... Dedicated and resolute tone to it... Dedicated to the cause.
Watch the vid and tell me it doesn't seem Tarn-like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9t7G_lHeiY
Christ, my head hurts and I feel like Trailbreaker.
Anyone know when the holiday oneshot is coming out?
>>77775645
I agree, they should just kick Scott out. She's cancer.
>>77775829
That I gotta agree on, Infiltration was a ride.
>>77775860
Speaking of Furman, were there other issues pre-spotlight that referenced the existence of Arcee?
>>77775846
Nope. Sounds like self serving kind of villain instead of one throwing away self identity to become archetype.
>>77775860
>they should just kick Scott out
Aye. Then they can bring in Kelly Sue DeConnick.
>>77775907
or Pat Lee to write.
>>77775922
>>77775907
How about you stop proposing terrible ideas?
>>77775942
Nah. How about Greg Land or Mike Deodato as new artists?
>>77775942
We just need an actually good woman writing. There are some fanficcers who aren't porn-only, and who aim for world-building and continuity. Those people would be good.
With our luck, it'd be another "hehehe did u see wat I did there" gal, though.
>>77775979
>Greg Land on robots
now this is porn tracing I got to see.
>>77776026
Did you learn nothing from the Marvel UK comics? Drawing Transformers as metal-colored humans is terrible. Especially if they are all going to have that same stupid porn smile and screaming faces and no asses.
>>77776082
Oh calm down, it's just a jest. Besides, we already have Raviolli tracing backgrounds. Imagine if those two teamed up with a box full of tracing paper
>>77776130
It would be terrible. Are you incapable of not making everything you touch worse?
>>77776148
Yes. That's the point of my non-serious post.
>>77776181
Stop doing it.
/tfg/ should move to /trash/ so debates over if on board theme stop and we can post porn like the Steven Universe ones there
>>77769806
Niiiice.
>>77776271
we have /y/ and /aco/ for that.
>>77776327
Those ones are dead and only discuss porn instead of being free discussion about robots.
Plus /y/ has endless bitching of depicting characters with female genitalia
>>77776383
Well duh, it's /y/. They have a reason against vaginas.
>>77776449
It would be the same thing as for a human crossdressing. Not worth complaining about.
>>77774116
This is based on the fact that Occupy Wall Street happened during AHM.
I think it could still work. Because of the Infiltration Protocol. Phase 2 involves manipulation of civilization, and setting off hotspots.
I can easily see the cons setting off the Great Recession earlier than in our timeline, which would set off the Occupy movement even earlier as a result. Now, the cons would agitate things to a greater degree normally, but with the Surge, the Infiltration Protocol was abandoned.
>>77775860
It's a shame that the first female Transformers team ended up being shit.
hopefully their will be a good female Transformers comic writer someday.
>>77778078
So much "World outside you window"
>>77778140
>>77778140
Hey, hey hey. Stone was a good artist with her own weaknesses, the ultimate one being just not cut for a serialized sequential art job.
Corin Howell half-assed everything. Or her style just was way more TFA than was good for the IDW comics. She also pulled shit like "this TF has a fish as a pet because that's cute" and made the supposedly Beast Wars Blackarachnia into the TFA one.
The current one, Sara Pitre-Durocher seems to be nigh-perfect. Just some problems with proportions, but mostly she's solid.
>>77778279
Good or bad art can be ignored, writers unfortunately have much more influence over the comics.
>>77776383
>>77776449
/y/ is amusing because someone can draw porn for one of their threads (like say, the tf one for instance) and they'll bitch for several posts and attack the artist because of how they draw the genitalia, its wild, they are given free porn and bitch about it
>>77778279
The Sarah's are fine and I consider them treasure's to the IDW crew. Scott's the one i'm talking about here.
>>77778742
Truth.
>>77779298
>>77779317
Reasonable people?
>>77779317
>>77779339
Come Again?
>Roberts/Milne's twitter
Looks like at least a part of MTMTE #50 is taking place on Cybertron.
>>77779478
This should be good, Milne draws a beautiful Cybertron.
>>77779478
Yay. I'm starting to miss Cybertron
>>77779690
What's Cybertron?
>>77779742
>There are bots in this thread RIGHT NOW who forget the glorious homeworld that is Cybertron
>>77779742
The last part of the Unicron Trilogy cartoons. Before it we had Armada and Energon.
>>77778140
To be fair the first all-male Transformers team also sucked and had stupid plots like Megatron forgetting his memory and becoming a gun or when Ratbat decided the best way to get energy was to run a car wash and siphon gasoline from users or when Optimus Prime killed himself for having a civilian die in a simulated battle despite winning the battle because of his principals and was then backed up on a floppy disk or when Grimlock wore a crown and spent all his time hunting down his fellow Autobots or Optimus Prime, Skylynx, and some human children ended up in a space circus.
>>77779829
But it wasn't advertised as "the male team".
>>77779829
Ha, I gotta see your point.
But the fundamental difference is that the guy team were creating a new thing with new tone, which went all over the place, and Scott was supposed to fit into an existing universe.
>>77779880
Exactly. Trying to fit an X-shaped peg into a Y-shaped hole when it would have been better to create a new X-shaped hole to store the X-shaped peg.
>>77779982
Is that a sexist joke or a bad choice of words?
Either way, I'm laughing.
>>77780108
Ж can accommodate both X and Y-shaped pegs, so they should change the IDW hole type to zhe.
What I'd like to know is why Cyclonus reached for his sword when he knew Security all had guns and were known for being trigger-happy too?
Deliberate suicide (to make Failgate feel guilty?)
Also, couldn't he, I don't know, turn into a spaceship or something? And fly away? Whirl will fit in those corridors in alt-mode and Cyc's not that much different in size...
>>77781211
That wasn't Cyclone.
>>77781211
> turn into a spaceship or something?
From what i've seen, only a few transformers (Cosmos, Sky Lynx, and Omega Supreme maybe a few more) can actually fly in space.
>>77781724
Broadside
Astrotrain
>>77781211
I think Cyclonus wanted to take the blame on himself to make sure that minibot will be cleared from any future accusations involving an attack on Megatron.
Cyclonus' alt-mode IS a spaceship. :)
Has been ever since TFTM.
Was that really not Cyclonus reaching for his own sword? *runs to re-read MTMTE*
It looks like his hand, and the angle is appropriate for someone reaching for a sword on their own back; if it was Tailgate then it wouldn't have looked like that as he was on the ground at that point and is much shorter than Cyclonus; that hand doesn't look like someone reaching _up_.
>>77781885
That was the most cancerous thing I've ever read in my entire life
And this is /co/
Cyclonus wanted to take the blame? That makes sense, thanks Tranon. :)
>>77761958
Roberts described Tailgate as an ingenue, which is a female character type. Tumblr had a field day with it because obviously this means he's a genderqueer monosexual or something even after Roberts said he didn't realize that was a female specific term and Tailgate is a guy.
>>77781211
Mass shifting, dumbass
>>77781916
He is a talky degree guy. He knows what words mean.
>>77781724
Blast Off
Nautica for short distances
>>77781972
>Space is an ocean
I hope this meme dies
>>77782033
Kill yourself, it's a great metaphor.
Oh dear, I smell trolls. Hello, trolls! Now light yourselves on fire, you miserable collection of pathetic, zero-reading comprehension cunts.
>>77782068
But it doesn't behave like that and doesn't have giant monsters that travel through it and you can't propel yourself forward with rotor blades as various guys have been depicted doing
>>77781814
>>77781972
Ok I can remember Astrotrain, but when did
Broadside (Stormrbinger?), Nautica, and Blastoff fly?
Also I think I'll add Overlord to the list (LSOTW)
>>77781885
We're talking about the IDW-verse friend. Again I have not seen too many transformers that could actually fly in space.
>>77782354
>When did Blast Off
>A fucking space ship
>Or Broadside
>Also a fucking space ship
>Fly
>>77782354
Nautica carried at least Nightbeat in the Slaughterhouse issue
>>77782416
Isn't Broadside a plane adapted to flying in air?
>>77782416
Well then why haven't they been shown flying in IDW? Again I'll give you Broadside because I think I remember him flying in Stormbringer.
And fuckit I'll give you Blastoff
>>77782421
Yeah just re-read that. I'll give you Nautica.
That's still way too few to justify Cyclonus being capable of space flight.
>>77782839
Why wouldn't Cyclonus be able to fly in space?
What ever happened to the combiner wars cartoon that was supposed to come out?
>>77782956
I don't know why. Apparently some Cybertronian flyers are just not fit for spaceflight. No one has noticed this?
>>77783178
Cybertron doesn't have an atmosphere so they should all be able to fly anywhere
>>77783223
I'm not sure about IDW but in almost all other continuities Cybertron has an atmosphere. Otherwise any time the token human sidekicks visit Cybertron they'd suffocate to death.
>>77779478
niiiiiice.
>>77779478
probably in the form of flashbacks i'm guessing? you can never have enough prewar cybertron world building.
>>77781257
>>77781885
It was Cyclonus reaching, because Tailgate's hand still have the fake needles on it.
I can see how people could think otherwise though, because Cyclonus's hand should've been more pointy.
>>77784195
Obviously that means the hand is neither Cyclonus or Tailgate's.
>>77783402
- we just recently saw a discussion about winds and the Crystal City singularity
- explosions get pretty big, indicating a combustible atmosphere of some sort
- IDW Cybertron has water, so there's evaporation going on
>>77783402
>>77784284
It's also raining here >>77779478
>>77784195
>>77784261
Roberts confirmed on twitter that it's Cyclonus' hand.
>>77779478
If they ever do a non-meme game on Transformers they should just get Milne to design Cybertron. Man he draws that shit like dreams.
>>77784646
>non-meme
You what mate
IDW Broadside's altmode should have been the Space Battleship Yamato
>>77784646
>If they ever do a non-meme game on Transformers
>>77782033
How else does Great A'Tuin swim through space?
>>77785235
>Memeworld
Kill yourself
>>77785275
>disrespecting Sir Terry
>>77785321
He is a hack that relies on sowacky! abuse of cliches by making them universe mechanics.
>>77781724
We saw him fly through space back in Spotlight: Cyclonus, his first appearance.
>>77786155
Not cannon
>>77786304
Correct, Galvatron is the cannon.
>>77783127
Still in the works. They said that the series would also tie into the upcoming Titans Return line, so who knows, maybe it won't really start until that toyline hits. I don't really see them making a cartoon to sell 1-2 year old toys that are not still on the shelf, so I imagine it will probably not really cover combiner wars by the time it gets made. But who knows, Prime wasn't going to have a toyline at one point.
>>77778140
Other than how Chromia was dealt with, I think the first Windblade series was pretty good. I certainly enjoyed 90% of it.
Now Windblade vol2, that was set to fail from the start given that it was basically just absorbed into Combiner Wars. Now they really did fuck up the writing afterward. I don't know what internal pressures went on to get the result we did, but forcing that rushed and just generally poor arc of finding all the worlds so quickly was not good. Maybe it might have played out better if given the proper number of issues, maybe not. I'm also not a fan of Livio nor Howell, so that certainly didn't help things.
this is an old one, but r8, crituique call me a faggot what eve
>>77789603
Not bad, but I don't care for Prowl's reuse of voice actors since comic Prowl is such a different character.
>>77789783
I feel Jeff Bennet's "Matter of Fact, Fuck you" Tone would work.
>>77789901
This is personal opinion but I think we need someone whos a bigger prick type. Similar to James Spader but not him since he just did Ultron.
>>77790237
I like Fred Tatasciore doing his Damon Baird voice from Gears of War for Prowl.
Although I also like him doing his WfC/FoC Megatron voice for IDW Megatron.
>>77790403
I thought Corey Burton using Animated Megatron was universally agreed upon?
What about Daemon Clark for Prowl?
>>77790515
A Burton is fine too.
The real trouble with a lot of IDW is finding a voice that fits them for the whole run. Megatron's probably one of the worst case for this (Soundwave probably being the hardest given that he's basically had 3 personas - Marvel-ish, Sunbow-ish, and now commune dude). For Megatron, he might as well be Welker in AHM, but then Burton suits MTMTE well, etc. I guess if you theoretically were going to animate all of IDW, you could tweak and re-word things to make one consistent voice.
Here's a question for folks out there - do you factor in when people use American or British (or other) slang into who voices them? Orginially in MTMTE, only the odd character used a specifically British term like "sod", so I started to think of them as specifically having a British accent. Although I don't do this so much anymore as he seems to apply them to nearly everyone now. But I guess you could still see this as people with non-British accents picking up slang from hanging around with people using those terms.
>>77790515
>>77790723
I really can't see Burton doing current Megatron. Like can you actually imagine him sitting at the bar in the Lost Light talking with that voice? Or reciting his poetry in it? I don't know but it doesn't fit for me.
>do you factor in when people use American or British (or other) slang into who voices them?
Absolutely. I think the only one who wasn't supposed to have a British accent in mtmte in fact is Rodimus. I swear JRo said he thought of him with a slight New Yorker's accent.
>>77789603
Don't really see Crankcase as Jake the Dog, or the Joker.
Anyone got any good Trailbreaker images? Preferably ones where he drinks.
>>77790925
>>77790723
English isn't my first languagein fact I'm German
all those voice-actors mean nothing to very little to me
and I never noticed that there was a difference between American and British-English until I took a BE-pronounciation course
>>77769480
>>77769480
>Why would Starscream's craziness manifest as an Autobot? He has little history with Bumblebee either and it hardly seemed Starscream respected him that much when Bumblebee led Cybertron for a while.
i took it as 1. SS only other real frame of referance for a peace time leader 2. he still recognises BB as a better person and therefore an better leader of people than he is
>>77764749
i thought he was alive but incapacitaed floating in space ala Cars
>>77771068
Nope she wasn't, she was a college age protestor in the whole Occupy Wallstreet thing until the Decepticons attacked.
Verity is probably a few years younger than her.
Why do people hate Hayato Sakamoto again?
pic unrelated.
>>77770539
He's actually quite a nice figure.
>>77778140
I like that artist, she does good eyes,
I want to jizz on Windblade's face when she makes that expression.
>>77794377
>all those holes
Oh god, I thought I was cured!
Catching up on RID cartoon, I'm liking it a lot more than I though, but there is one thing bothering me.
Is Optimus Prime dead or not? They talk like he is but when we see him they only call it "the realm of primes" which could be anything honestly.
>>77794345
Inferior race
>>77789603
hey I know you, i've seen this cast before.
I've always wondered how you made that template. I'd love to do my own version with the cast I have. do you think you could make a clean original cut with the cast of the characters...plus the 2nd season later additions like Megatron, Nautica, Nightbeat, Trailbreaker, Ravage, Getaway, Atomizer, First Aid, Star Saber, Tyrest, Thunderclash, Firestar, Velocity and The Necrobot.
while I don't use many of the castings you have I do approve of them. Billingslea as Magnus is such a out of the box casting I can't help but admire. Jeff Bennett as Perceptor is actually a damn great idea even though I still use Paul Eiding. in some ways it might be more fitting with Bennett since IDW Perceptor is more impersonal and less friendly. Derek Stephen Prince as Misfire is genius. I might start using that.
>>77789783
>>77789901
>>77790237
>>77790403
I hear David Kaye for Prowl. I imagine him doing a mix of his Trieze Kushrenada in terms of being a manipulative type character but with the coldness and aloofness and superiority complex of his Sesshomaru from InuYasha.
I do like Clarke as Prowl though. I imagine him doing Scorponok in his Cell voice.
and yes Corey Burton's TFA Megatron is IDW Megatron well ever since he got the Shadow Blade Megatron design.
>>77790723
despite the british terms. most character speak in American accents since I kinda made up most of the voices before I noticed them. I am Canadian.
Velocity definitely has a British accent (Kazumi Evan's Octavia specifically...though Mela Lee's Rin Tohsaka is a close second) and Getaway has an aussie accent. I know he's supposed to be New Zealand but i'm not used to hearing that kind of accent compared to Aussie.
>>77794549
he died at the end of Prime, RID is sort of a continuation. So his spirit/spark is in the realm of the Primes since he is the final Prime.
>>77794549
As one of the original 13, albeit one who locked away his memories, Optimus is a firstborn child of Primus.
His spark is near eternal, and a part of him will always exist with his siblings in the Realm of the Primes.
This connection allows him to return, but the Primes are loath to send out one of their own for anything less than someone like Megatronus striking.
>>77778279
>the ultimate one being just not cut for a serialized sequential art job.
She got sick with an unrelated illness.
>>77797086
Dunno about that. Emmscotteyetus is pretty contagious.
I've been watching Victory, and I'm wondering why almost the entire cast is retarded.
The shit that's happened unbelievable.
>>77797767
>questioning logic in G1 cartoon
son
>>77789603
You're a faggot for making me have to google Crispin Freeman cause I couldn't remember where I hear the name from before. Just put in Itatchi breh
>>77790925
>I really can't see Burton doing current Megatron
You Haven't seen this i Take it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg6aiBlbj38
>>77798707
Anon, there's fucking up, then there's Victory fucking up.
My personal favorites are Star Saber not attacking prison inmates because they were being manipulated. While he wasn't wrong, he had no way of knowing this, and almost got his whole team killed.
Then there's the time Star Saber falls for multiple traps in one episodewhich ends with Ginrai being mortally wounded due to Star Sabers idiocy.
Then there's the time one of the Decepticons is impersonating Star Saber, and despite it being REALLY obvious it's not him, only one character suspects anything.
Does this image cause fanrage?
>>77800369
I don't know, the style isn't exactly up my alley but the designs look G1 enough.
>>77800369
Nobody in the current TF fandom even knows that G1 exists anymore dude.
Prime & IDW is all they know about this franchise.
>>77800711
>nobody in the current fandom knows about G1
That's real goddamn wrong man. Even on tumblr it's almost mandatory to watch the G1 cartoon because that's what the major ficcers like to write.
G1's well-loved, don't worry, Saltheap.
>>77800711
It's sad but true. This is the future you chose
>>77797767
All I know is that it has Killbison. The world needs more Killbison.
>>77794137
Speaking of Verity is she dying? I don't buy the pregnant thing especially since Arcee fucking up Stakeout would fucking have made her abort the baby.
Also being in space with the Wreckers probably got her lots of radiation.
>>77801198
Why would Arcee care about not aborting Verities offspring?
>>77800369
Why would this cause fanrage? Ironhide and Chromia are bf and gf in G1.
>>77801232
G1 sucks. It would be best ignored forever instead of dragging down current things by tryi ng to match elements of it.
>>77800369
Only because I know the artist's other works.
>>77801294
The only thing more annoying then a geewunner is an anti geewunner
>>77801224
He's saying that Verity's baby would have been aborted right then and there when Arcee blasted Stakeout with Verity inside, anon.
>>77801307
oh god,
is that the artists who gives TF energon-filled tits and babies?
>>77800711
Also Transformers vs GI Joe.
>>77801430
So Verity is carrying a corpse inside her?
Neat.
>>77801428
>Muh box men and lack of internal consistency!
>>77801437
And the baby lovingly crapping.
>>77801447
Couldn't get into this comic it's too out there for me, I guess the only Joe and Tf crossover that I liked was that WWII one (although I didn't give a shit about the Snake Eyes dramafest) and would like to see something between both franchises like that.
>>77801198
Radiation poisoning most likely, and it looks like being in close proximity to a Cybertronian might be making it worse since Stakeout was being very apprehensive about letting her hug him and she tells him that it doesn't matter at that point.
She's not going to make it past this comic, if her sickness doesn’t get her then once Prowl is rescued he is going to make sure she gets put down.
>>77802002
But Transformers are not radioactive outside of Bayverse.
>>77802019
Or at least something to do with Cybertronians is killing her then.
>>77800711
>>77800856
It's like you two know nothing at all of the fandom. It's funny.
>>77802088
60 year old virgin neckbeards don't count as lifeforms, much less fans
>>77802002
>if her sickness doesn’t get her then once Prowl is rescued he is going to make sure she gets put down.
There is already no redeeming Prowl but this would be like Fallout killing children rep bad considering how fond of Verity the Wreckers and Magnus are.
>>77802002
>>77802052
Could it be cancer of some kind? Don't astronauts have a higher cancer rate just from having gone into space?
>>77801447
Nobody read that thing. Everybody just ignores it's existence.
I don' know how come it's still running.
>>77801521
>muh heaps of spikes having gay sex and nothing happening for issues on end.
>>77802219
>G1
>Plot development
LMAOOOOOO
Even you don't believe yourself
>>77801809
Yeah, I can understand it not being to people's tastes.
What did you think of the Devil's Due stuff?
>>77802219
Dude what the fuck comic is this where I can see actual robot dicks, that's the one I want.
>>77802375
They don't have sexual organs you brainless fundoshi. Pansu ja nai.
>>77802219
Spike is the most aggressively heterosexual guy in whole TF franchise what're you talking
>>77802375
Well, there's Nightbeat.
>>77802164
That could be also what it is, makes sense for her to get fucked up during her space travels with the Wreckers and Cybertronians would not know much about human health and safety.
Yeah Astronauts are more prone to cancer and they have lower bone density also are exposed to space radiation (not sure what type or to what extremes) so it makes sense for Verity to get fucked up because of it and it makes sense of her to act so erratic since she wants to see Prowl pay before she is gone and her not giving a fuck about Arcee threatening to torture her.
She is going to die anyway.
>>77802491
To faggots everything is automatically gay. Every important person in history, every important fictional character.... every combat soldier hugging another in a moment of stress... all fabulous cocksuckers just like they are. And if you disagree you're a hater.
>>77802586
I dunno, given they were complaining it sounds like they're the one who see gay people. Some of them don't even know they're gay.
>>77802586
Dude you're talking to one. I know this might be an important issue to you for whatever reason but if I were in a war, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't fall in love with every other soldier. There's gotta be chemistry you know?
>>77802648
But that's the entire reason for Don't Ask, Don't Tell! Everyone knows gay people can't keep it in their pants, and are constantly flirting with straight men because gay people are constantly horny disgusting perverts!It really does seem sometimes that homophobia is the fear of being treated like a woman by someone else
>>77802699
Kinda unrelated but I find it funny that in straight parent couples the straight dads sometimes flirt with single gay ones. Just because they like the confidence boost if they flirt back.
>>77802364
Had some good ideas I guess but it killed Megatron and Soundwave way too early and some of the pacing was bad, and I didn’t care much for the time travel arc except when they went to the fucked up future, the Cobra-La arc had potential too but it focused way too much on the Joes.
I definitely liked SerpentOR better than his GI Joe counterpart (I dislike Serpentor). I also liked that the TF thought that Snake Eyes was weird but him being able to mindwhammy them was ridicoulous Ninja bullshit.
I guess I thought it had some good and bad points? Overall it was OK but it needed to focus more on the TF.
>>77802483
But this anon says they do >>77802219
>>77802515
>Nightbeat
>a dick
Seems legit.
>>77802515
he is a Gumshoe
>>77802648
No, Patrick, love cannot bloom on the battlefield.
>>77751473
For me, Starscream will always be his original VA.
>>77751473
>>77803002
Same. Even if it would be a more toned down version.
Blum just isn't Starscream.
>>77803002
But that person is dead.
And has been longer than he has been alive.
>>77802527
>I only liked 2 humans in IDW
>One is dead, and the other is dying
>But we get to keep all the insufferable humans in RID
Fuck everything.
>>77801447
>>77801809
Honestly it reminds me of why I don't care much for 90's comics. But I still give it a go when I can to see how it'll turn out. Also the covers are pretty great pic related
All this talk about verity having radiation poisoning and im just laughing my ass off because she's so obviously pregnant. If the belly buldge and puking isn't enough stakeout flat out says she currently isn't herself. Aka pregnancy hormones.
Personally i think this is awesome because she doesn't give a fuck that she's pregnant all she cares about is her mission to fuck over prowl and she'll force her body till the jobs done or die trying. Just like ironfist forced his body in last stand.
Depending on how things play out this could also go along with the saying from the first wreckers "life persists "
>>77803135
Same here. It's so rare to get good humans in Transformers.
>>77803197
My only problem with that is that it doesn't really suit Verity and it's a cheap shitty tactic for drama. Not to mention I don't think Verity would be so careless with a baby like that. I think those of us who don't think she's pregnant are in denial and hoping it's anything but that because it is so stupid and would like to think better of Roche.
>>77803197
>life persists
>Verity becomes the holy madonna representation of the Wreckers motto
Gay
>>77803197
Having a kid in her situation is very shitty thing towards the kid and risking its life by threatening Prowl is out of character for her. Being pregnant would make her a shitty person and a hypocrite because she would be endangering someone while bringing "justice" to Prowl.
>>77803197
thats retarded considering >>77801430
>>77802195
>>77801294
> It would be best ignored forever instead of dragging down current things by tryi ng to match elements of it.
Nigger please. Several of the character traits even from the ones you like still come from the old G1 tech specs. You can't abandon that.
>>77790515
>>77790403
Yeah my vote goes for WFC's Megatron.
>>77803601
>Implying the G1 cartoon and comics gave a fuck about Tech Specs
"Emotionless Warrior" sure describes Cyclonus
>>77803756
I could be wrong but I think the other anon meant the old G1 Budianski character profiles which several of todays character still pull character traits from...with a few exceptions like Ratchet.
>>77803756
That's called character development.
>>77752517
>Tailgate
>young
>>77804001
Let's not start this shitty fucking argument again.
>>77752358
No. Conjunx Endura is platonic love. Amica is friendship.
>>77804001
Mentally he is 2 weeks+ the length the Lost Light has been travelling.
>>77803712
This. He's great in those games. What cartoon does Megatron has that voice?
>>77804024
What do Romantic, Platonic, and Friendship mean?
>>77804059
Google it.
>Transformers (previously known as Robots in Disguise) and MTMTE reaching it's 50 mile issues
>Sins of the Wreckers
>Transformers Till All Are One is coming
Now, if only we could get a live-action reboot (not likely) and a new game...
>>77804024
Roberts has confirmed on his twitter that Conjunx is romantic.
>>77804113
Both are fucking Conjunx. Conjunx amica and Conjunx endura. He was fucking up. Conjunx means union.
>>77804059
>>77804113
Now I'm confused. Transformers don't have sex, so shouldn't they both be Platonic kind of relationship? Or is there a behavior that serves the same function as sex in their culture which doesn't have an analogue in humans?
This is why I favour the greek terms. Storge, Agape, Philia, and Eros.
Much simpler.
>>77804112
>and a new game...
Transformers Devastation just came out, and is rather fun.
>>77804157
This is bait. But for clarity's sake, the terms are Conjunx Endura and Amica Endura. Conjunx means spouse.
>>77804192
Romantic = sexual. Sexual attraction and romantic attraction are different things. Like you don't marry a person because they're really fucking hot, you marry them because of love.
We do know that TFs experience some sort of physical attraction, too, though.
>>77804157
I think you misunderstood. That was not referring to the actual meaning of the word (conjunx=union) but the meaning that his phrase "Conjunx Endura" implies. Conjunx Endura is the term for a romantic relationship, of course that is not what the base latin words mean if translated and taken literally.
>>77804235
But it's too short.
>>77804251
>Like you don't marry a person because they're really fucking hot
Well some idiots do...
>>77804262
It is. But at least the ride was a blast. I hope we get a sequel
>>77804235
"Fun", but mechanically it is a shit game that does not reward intelligent play.
>>77804251
Isn't marriage because the two people are marking each other as people they want to make a family and have sex with?
>>77804301
I don't know if I'd call it shit, but yeah after playing it a bit I did note it wasn't as in depth as say, the W101. But it was Platinum's B team, and it was still quite entertaining for its short run. I love the challenge missions.
>>77804357
please be a troll
>>77804366
Anything that is not perfect is shit.
>>77804357
Yeah sure but love can be involved too.
Like I'm pretty sure Chromedome and Rewind marked each other as their berthbuddies.
>>77804377
Having sex outside of marriage is a sin.
>>77804112
We don't need no stinkin reboot.
>>77801430
I don't think fiction plays by the rules
>>77804918
Then it sucks. Fiction should reflect the reality of the storyteller.
>>77803058
Yeah I know, but if this is the voice we hear in our minds when reading the comic, then being dead isn't really a deciding factor right?
>>77804954
You are hearing a ghost in your head.
2spoopy
since we now know Verity is pregnant,
let's guess who would be the most horrible baby-daddy imaginable
>it's a tie between Witwicky and Blackwell
>>77805041
Stop forcing that fucking meme
>>77805041
It doesn't matter who the father is as long as it dies before birth so you can pretend that the character is still pure later and not a whore.
Source: Comic books.
>>77805041
Thundercracker. He refuses it's his unless they go on Maury for a paternity test.