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Venom: Space Knight Storytime

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>Above Decent book
>Great art
>Has Flash actually doing things after basically being a amusing houseplant in GotG for months
>Written by Robbie Thompson, the man who saved Silk
>Nobody bothered to storytime it.

Gather 'round asshats. Time for some Thanksgiving spaceknighting
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>>77734426
Duc.. I mean Owl tits???
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>>77734309
Thank OP
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Thanks.
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>>77734493
The more I look at the design in this artwork, the more I'm okay with it. Especially the helmet face thing. It's actually not that painful to look at
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>>77734309
Someone did storytime it yesterday, though.

Also the art is shit.
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>>77734574
>Klyntar
>Suddenly everyone knows that word, even random space pirates, even though for years they've just been calling them symbiotes.
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>>77734610
Didn't see it in the archive
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>>77734619
You could easily bullshit that the universal translators everyone used in space turned every utterance of "Klyntar" into "Symbiote" because that's what everyone on earth is familiar with.

Again, bullshit
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>>77734589
After everything Venom has been through on Earth you'd think he'd have high resistance to the old weaknesses.
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>>77734626
>>77734610
Oh, wait. Did someone post it inside another thread someone else made?
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I like this robot
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So, should I do Carnage next? Or did someone stealth storytime that book too?
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>>77734770
I'd be up for storytime.
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>>77734713
>Lesbo aliens
ayyy
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>>77734426
Is this the same office that rocket once worked a dead-end job at? That far wall looks really familiar.
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>>77734426
I want to fuck those big owl tiddies.
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>>77734580

I still prefer his original tacticool Spider-Man look, but this one has kind of grown on me a bit. Maybe it's because his proportions are a little better and less like a gorilla?
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>>77734713
>>77734770
This and Carnage 2 were posted in the "would Venom be better as a female?" thread yesterday. The storytimer went to find Carnage 1, but never posted it.
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does anyone know what other books the artist is on or done, this shit is real good
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>>77734910
Well, how is anyone who doesn't give a shit about waifu faggotry supposed to find that?
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>>77734343
Why is masterchief wearing venom while pulling a starlord stealing Erik Larson's Robot Spiderman arm?
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>>77734529
no.
NO. we are not taking away male facial expressions, Give him a beard I don't care, maybe even a big wet angry smile. This is beyond face distortion.
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>>77734309
>Above Decent book
Nah, after ruining symbiotes forever it's impossible for a Venom book to be decent until someone retcons the whole thing.
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>>77734808
>lesbo

How do you know that's not a male or a herm?
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I really wish this was a separate character. I mean I don't hate the book as long as Bendis's slimy tentacles stay away but I just want spiky venom and his unhealthy codependent relationship with the suit back.

Hell even seeing what happened to Mania would be nice.
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>>77735050
Retconning something doesn't always make things decent. Sometimes it just goes makes things even more convoluted. That's why X-man canon is such a hot mess.

Besides, symbiotes aren't ruined. Just Venom; and even then, it's not that bad.

>>77735030
Flash didn't have many facial expressions as Agent Venom either; save for when he went full-on Venom
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>>77734309
Alright, first off, that costume sucks. They should make it like the old one, or something like a symbiote captain shepard. Duck I could draw something up better an thiis in a few minutes.
Secondly...>>77734510
>>77734529
The symbiote, they just castrated it? The fuck? That was part of his dynamic, and really anyone but Kletus wearing one.

Other than that, the art is great, and I love the fact Venom is being a secret agent in space. It's kinda like how he was before remender's run, which was awesome. All they need to do is fix that costume and we're straight.

>>77734910
New carnage 1? Cause that was posted a few jumps back.
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>>77735251
What I got was that the Symbiote doesn't warp emotions anymore, but it is still sensitive to powerful feelings. So Flash needs to reign himself in when he uses it, or it will go berzerk
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>>77735050
this opinion reeks of Bendis hate instead of impartial reading.
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>>77735050

Don't worry. For some reason every single writer in the industry seems to forget all about the symbiotes every couple of years.
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>>77735251
>They should make it like the old one, or something like a symbiote captain shepard.

I don't think GotG needs any more Mass Effect inspiration. We've just started getting past it.
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>>77735322
This opinion reeked of someone who's been reading Venom books since the 90s and own holographic versions of his original Lethal Protector series.

>>77735230
Nah bruh, the symbiotes are all irrevocably ruined. The story about them being noble space warriors saw to that.
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>>77735560
The same issue that labeled them as space warriors hinted that there was an evil faction somewhere out in space. It could be the same faction that appeared in Planet of the Symbiotes.

Bendis didn't really retcon anything, he just added some unnecessary lore. Symbiotes aren't all ruined
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>>77735251
>New carnage 1? Cause that was posted a few jumps back.
I don't know. Whatever came before pic related.
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Reading this thread suddenly I feel really grateful I've never read enough comics with Venom to become invested in the character or even understand what the fuck is going on.

Too bad the art in this makes my eyes bleed, though. There are few artists I hate more than fucking Olivetti.
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>>77735734
I think it works a little better just because he's working with aliens, but it still looks pretty bad.
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>>77734426
is she a mammalian or a bird?
>>77734309
I love the art, but the story so far seems a generic cookie cutter action story.
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>>77735320
Should still be a dynamic, it has intelligence, it seems WAY more passive than it was.
>>77735509
Hey man, anything that's better than this POS suit. I'll admit I like elements of it, but it's basically classic venom with new trim.
>>77735711
Yeah, that one, it was posted might still be in the archive. Is this one's thread still up?
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>>77735811
>is she a mammalian or a bird?
She's a alien.
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>>77735952
>she
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>>77735230
>Besides, symbiotes aren't ruined. Just Venom; and even then, it's not that bad.
That's not true. This retroactively affects the entire race. even the Earthborn ones, which are now considered to be just "corrupted" versions of the real deal.
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>>77735798
Yeah, I give you that. Actually this time around the characters themselves looked fine, but goddamn those backgrounds. Fuck, even going full Kubo on them would be a major improvement.
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>>77734808
>>77735148

Or indeed a species which is morphologically different than humans in such a way as that males aren't evidently different from females. Or a species which simply doesn't have distinct genders and all members are capable of producing offspring. Could be any number of things which aren't obvious analogues to human genders. I know I prefer my sci-fi concepts a bit more exotic like that, personally.
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i like the art.
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>>77734309
>Great Art
No. I mean it has its strong points but it's a stiff mess and the artist can't draw backgrounds....or they constantly decide to just impose a photo background for no reason. Everything is super stiff and lifeless. Plus this creepy uncanny affect every once anda while. It's like if Norman Rockwell mad comics and decided to phone it in.
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>>77736084
Hmm. Maybe not as drastic as I was hoping, but it does seem to help little.
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>>77734343
>dat last panel ass
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>>77734875
>>77734505
HOOTERS
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with this art beyond owltits.
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>>77735711
He's not The Darkness, so
It's like Marvel would have been better off selling these properties to the Image artists taht reset the comic industry 25 years ago. Look where Carnage went and where comics have been, in a stagnant look, since Image, and I personally am just waking up to it now. I mean
We all knew that Pitt was HUlk by Dale Keon because Marvel woulodn't give Dale keon owner ship rights.

And it's better that Marvel let Dale Keon fend for himself because he ended up owning his own property.
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Cool.

But now when I look at all these marvel comics I just see Image characters being wr-written.

Is this what Marvel looked like in the 90s?
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>>77736630
Now that the backgrounds are so white I fell like all the characters need Phonogram style white outlines.
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>>77737025
Where the hell did all that come from?
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>>77734309
Thanks OP

This art is some of the best I've seen in the recent line up
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I think opinions on this art is a good indicator of how much attention someone is actually paying and how much they know about the medium.
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>>77736164

Or maybe that was an Aunt or a sister or something.
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>>77738406
She pretty clearly said "my wife".
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>>77737512
it's called word salad
>>77738458
maybe wife is how they call an aunt a sister or something
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>>77734662
What just happened?
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>klynar klyntar klyntar
>Eddie feels negative emotions, but this doesn't corrupt the symbiote for some reason
>Still using the shitty costume

Nope, I don't like it.

Maybe it helped that Silk was a shitty character that no one liked so any good run of her would blow Slott's out of the water.
Venom has a much longer history and being saddled with Bendis' baggage isn't doing the author any favours
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>>77737044
We can do better.
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>>77734343
>Those fucking backgrounds outside the window
>>77734384
Since when did Venom have spider sense?
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>>77738590
>Eddie

Also, I don't think you can call what Venom has a 'history'. Especially since his characterization changes every time he gets handed off to another writer.

Your right about the Bendis baggage tho
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>>77740011
My bad
I tend to mix up Eddie and Flash (well, they are both big buff blond guys with crewcuts)
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>>77736713
the symbiote absorbed many of Peter Parker's abilities, including his world-class ass
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>poser art
>anything but absolute dogshit

Y'all need to get your eyes checked
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>>77740670
What the fuck does that even mean?
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>>77740767
He's very clearly using poser to draw all of his settings and about half of his figures and even though he does a decent job of painting over it it still makes the whole thing look super stiff and lifeless. And Shit.
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>>77735560
What do you think are the chances that the Carnage ongoing will address the space guardian crap?
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The art is actually pretty awful.
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>>77734343
>oh jee wiz I'm sure in trouble, ain't I? How will I ever get out of this one??
>Something is chasing after them

Is it some kind of House rule that half of every new number 1 has to start like this?
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>>77741159
Probably either a circulated formula or an unofficial one most writers stumble upon when they want to introduce a tone but aren't comfortable diving into the new story direction entirely
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>>77741159

At least it's not

>I should have done this years ago
>I should have just gotten away from everything

Though they did do the "my name is..." thing that seems to be all over everything capeshit nowadays.
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No. You know what? Fuck this. I want the homicidal, brain eating venom back.
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>>77736629
Jesus Anon, he isn't fucking Liefeld.
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>>77741251
What's wrong with Kaine?
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>>77741251
I want a comic to start like Deus Ex. With the main villains casually discussing their plans, giving away important details left and right you can't really understand without knowing their context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zStn70Ot4r0
I love this shit so much.
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>>77740670
It's not absolute dogshit. I like the design on the various aliens. I think it does a good job of creating a universe that feels alive. I think the colors are pretty good, too. It sort of a shame because I really doubt the artist actually needs to use poser like that.
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>>77741589

It's not just Kaine, it's everyone. Every single comic or show based on a comic nowadays has to shove "my name is Main character and..." somewhere near the beginning as if people don't know.
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>>77735050
This, while i do hate bendis and the way he forces SJW stuff onto everything, i was so angry that he ruined one of my favourite characters with some
>muh space minority
He just needs to stop
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>>77734962
I had the toy of that battle-damaged Spidey as a kid.
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>>77734610
I love the art. Really love it.
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>>77735734
Am i the only one who actually likes his art?
I mean, it looks pretty
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>>77741246
But it's in every comic. It's like they're trying to lampshade comics for being "ridiculous" without realizing that this is fucking normal to everyone now. The characters now are always going:
>This is crazy and not normal *wink wink*
>I'm sure in trouble with all this weird stuff!
>But I find a way out!

It's infuriating. Even members of the fucking X-Men, kings of weird, say this shit. It somehow makes characters blander.

>>77741698
Nah that'd be to hard and require knowing what will happen more than 2 issues ahead

>>77741251
I've only seen Fraction and Bendis do that. I guess Arran did the whole "My name is..." in Dr. Strange.
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>>77742043
>i do hate bendis and the way he forces SJW stuff onto everything
Of all the countless complaints to have about Bendis this isn't one of them. The only case you could argue for being "SJW" was the turning Bobby gay thing.

"SJW" isn't just some catch-all term to apply to anything /co/ tells you not to like, or anything that you don't like but can't articulate why.

Of all the hundreds of reasons to hate Bendis, you pick one that makes it pretty clear that you probably read very few comics and, beyond the Klyntar nonsense, aren't at all familiar with Bendis' works or why they're hated.
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Do people in this thread seriously not know what in media res is
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>>77734309
>venom
>spaceknight

Why the fuck not?! Frankencastle was good, why not Venom in space?
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>>77744907
Oh no, im aware he's shit at writing, look at Powers, but he does literally aim to please only Tumblr these days, hes a smug prick
And dude, i read loads of comics, my shelf is almost over flowing, im literally running out of room
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>>77736164
Because Marvel is on a forced progressiveness streak where every one of their books has to feature a gay or minority character of some sort?

How obtuse are you?
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>>77749517
It's just a little self-deception that actually makes your life better. This is a science fiction setting after all, and it doesn't require much imagination to explain it away without screaming propaganda.
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>>77741382
This 100%
fuck if they wanted to make venom a hero why not just relaunch Lethal Protector?
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>>77747227
Because its not actually venom but Flash with the symbiote
Hell id read about Eddie and the symbiote having space adventures
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>>77734309
I just can't get over the costume, anon.

It was so good. And now it's so bad.
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>>77734510
>Klyn'tar
Goddammit I thought I wasn't still mad, but I am.
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>>77734309
I recognized that art instantly. Olivetti is my favourite entry level artists. A compatriot on top of that.
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>>77736792

Underrated post.
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>>77734309
>great art
Actually, it's kinda horrible.
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I dont even care about all these changes anymore
they will all be gone once the new spider-man reboot hits theathers
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>>77750537
>Thor will be a guy again once Age of Ultron comes out, JUST YOU WATCH
>Cap will be Steve again once Age of Ultron comes out, JUST YOU WATCH
Uh-huh.
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>>77750677
Nobody cares about thor or cap's books
Spidey is still marvel's top selling property even with all the Iron man pushing
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Still hate the design. It was so perfect before Guardians.
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>>77750753
Which is why Marvel is putting out the Spidey book for people that want something like the movie. They're not going to reboot everything else though.
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>>77749517
>>77749607
Yeah, gonna call BS on this. If you're gonna make hermaphroditic aliens, then you don't give them secondary sex characteristics exclusive to one gender. That's just pandering.

Ideally, both should be clearly nonhuman creatures... preferably insectile. Oh, and fuck made the call to slap eye shadow and DSLs on that one in the closeup. Jesus, Marvel.
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>>77735734

I wish he would go back to traditional pencil and ink, his art was so much better in the 90s
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>>77740954
Literally none. Guarantee Conway doesn't bring it up, even once.
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>>77749730
>Because its not actually venom but Flash with the symbiote

This is completely accurate. The symbiote isn't even a character any more. It might as well just be power armor at this point.
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>>77734426
SHE WANTS THE DICK
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>>77734426
An owl lady with a furry mammal body with giant hairless tits in a cocktail dress at a cubicle telemarketing job. alrighty
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>>77752732
You sound disappointing. Its fittingly alien.
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>>77750860
Yeah. When I was reading some older comics he worked on I actually had to double-check if it really was the same guy. He fell hard, it's a real shame.
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>>77742071
that toy was amazing, I had it too
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>>77741251
>>I should have done this years ago
>>I should have just gotten away from everything

It looks like 90's era narration is back.
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>>77744035
>It's like they're trying to lampshade comics for being "ridiculous"

I liked how Ellis did it in Planetary and Authority. During big moments a character would have a look of awe and comment on how mind blowing it all is/how small it makes them feel/they realize they are bastards
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>>77747181
Some people just like being contrarian.
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>>77750192
The sad thing is that has been one of the highlights for of Bendis' run so far.
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>>77753750

It's Bendis more than anyone. He's used that exact same sequence of lines at least twice. Once for Iron Man at the beginning of his GotG run, and once again for The Thing when -he- joined the Guardians. It's apparently happened elsewhere, but I haven't seen it.
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>>77753864
>highlights

I'd hardly call fucking up an entire alien race's history a "highlight". Rather, its a blight against continuity.
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I'm actually really hoping that it turns out the Klyntar homeplanet is malevonent and they're using poor Flash to further their secret agenda.

Also I wish that something could be done about the symbiote's weaknesses because its kind of annoying when he just falls apart any time sonics or fire is involved. He could at least build resistance to it, right? I know he wasn't as weak to fire when he had Mephisto's mark or whatever. Maybe something similar could happen?

(Also I prefered Flash with longer hair and facial hair. Crew cut just makes him look like Eddie)
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>>77754568
>they're using poor Flash to further their secret agenda.

That would actually be amazing.

But lets be fair. The Venom symbiote wasn't initially "evil". It was just a jealous lover, initially. The evil stuff didn't show up until the 90's cartoon. And even then, the 90's Planet of the Symbiote story showed that it didn't want to be evil either, despite the rest of its race.
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>>77754645
Oh no. Have no doubt, my friend. Symbiote is #1 bae and Peter is trash for betraying it. I don't think it was intially evil, just scorned.

A planet of giant shapeshifters that tell you to do stuff through voices in your head though? Sounds fishy if Flash doesn't or can't question their intentions beyond "We are Agents of the Cosmos!"

Don't get me wrong, I love Flash. But I want it to mindfuck him, use him, make him question everything as he comes to realize that time and time again he has been nothing but a pawn. If Robbie Thompson could pull off something like that, then I might just like Venom in Space.
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>>77754795
Yeah, that would be amazing.

Building on what you suggested, I would love it if the symbiote itself is shown to not actually be evil. But being in space, it had some kind of instinctual need to go home and the closer to home it gets, due to all the other symbiote being evil, the Venom symbiote has instinct take over or because a mental pawn to more powerful beings of its race or something.

Would make for an interesting character arc for both Flash and the symbiote.
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>>77754861
>>77754795
>>77754645
>>77754568
I think this would be preferable to the full-blown retcon people are demanding.

But unfortunately, Bendis' agenda is law in the Marvel offices, third to only the movies and the mouse
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>>77754861
Yessss. I'd really like it if we got dialouge between the symbiote and Flash again. Show what great friends they are not just tell us. Make the symbiote a character again, not just a suit.

I kind of want them to team up to take down the corrupt Klyntar planet
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>>77754969
That would be great.

They don't even need to give the symbiote a voice. Just have it be like when Brock would talk to the symbiote and respond to its mental images. It still had a personality, but a sort of ephemeral one.
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>>77755020
That would be perfect. I want to have faith that the writer will pull through with some stuff like this, especially with how he saved Silk, maybe he can make something good of this retcon?
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>>77755149
>maybe he can make something good of this retcon?

Well, we just did. So its definitely possible. The real question is are we better than the actual writer?
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>>77754795
>But I want it to mindfuck him, use him, make him question everything as he comes to realize that time and time again he has been nothing but a pawn.

I know that feel, anon. That's my fetish too.
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>>77734309
How the fuck did that happen? There were so few storytimes I figured almost nothing came out this week. I would have thought this would be among the first to be put out.
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>>77755205
As someone with zero writing experience, I would hope Robbie would do better than I. That fucker better not fuck up our chance at another good Venom ongoing.
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>>77755232
Look at this beautiful, broken son of a bitch. Who better fits the symbiote than someone just as torn down as it is? I want some hardcore angst bonding. And maybe some more stuff involving tentacles.
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>>77755456
Shills had the day off so they weren't storytiming.
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>>77754568
>I wish that something could be done about the symbiote's weaknesses
It had nearly gotten to the point where it could shrug off all that stuff, and was explained as being because it got stronger with every new host.

Could be that cleansing the mental damage from those hosts also undid its expanded pain tolerance
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>>77734728
It's a bit too blatantly hitchhiker's guide for me, but I get the feeling its gonna betray Flash as soon as someone else offers to kill it
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>>77734589
whatever happened to the state of the art prosthetic legs SpOck gave Flash?
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>>77734662
>>77734619
I recall that most of the universe didn't even KNOW what the symbiotes were in cosmic stories. They even had one show up in a cosmic story where the characters (Ronan or at lesat seveal kree Star-Lord and several misc bigwigs) were just creeped out by it as they had no idea wtf it was.
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>>77755933
and the ones that had heard of them where pants-shittingly terrified because they'd heard about the worlds made barren because a symbiote cannibalized every potential host it had.
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>>77734589

I thought the Klyntar planet regrew Flash's legs, but I guess not.
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>>77756027
No, Kletus got his legs back because he's truly bonded, unlike Flash
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>>77734589

Didn't he get prosthetic legs?
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Fucking awful
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>>77735196
This.

Klyntar concept is shit.
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This shit is trash
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