It has some iffy designs, and lots of people are upset about Mr. Freeze being his pre-BTAS version. It's also a little toyatic, but in a way that makes sense since it's Batman. I liked how he uses the suit he made for fighting Freeze in a later episode just because it was in the middle of a blizzard.
The Laughing Bat is the GOAT Joker story.
It has some problems. It's pretty obviously a toy commercial that every new villain pretty much requires Batman to make some new thing to fight him. I was too fond of everyone being a kung fu master either. Overall though it's at least worth checking out.
Yeah, but that's like a gym teacher using Usian Bolt to gauge whether or not his high school gym class are good runners.
You'll never get a fair comparison.
Both batmans had their good and bad points.
Can't say it's the whole shemeg, but one big thing that changed was competition. Specifically anime. Once anime started to catch on with the general public with things like Akira, Tenchi muyo and DBZ, there was this whole other market that the US animation studios had to compete with. That means getting things out faster while cutting corners here and there.
Brave and the Bold is the best, but this one is my favorite
>tfw no one else sees Bats as slim, agile, and muscular like a ninja
Fucking Frank Miller
Is that the one where Joker turns into Batman and tries to turn Batman into Joker?
>go to gym in Central City
>gym teacher berates you for not being as fast as the Flash
I never liked it desu senpai. All the criminals are martial arts masters, nobody carries around guns, even the police use like tasers and non-lethal stuff, and the animation looks like Jackie Chan Adventures, which I like for Jackie Chan, but not for Batman. BTAS and Batman Beyond are still the best.
>That episode where joker dressed up as batman and was beating up people for things like littering was GOAT.
It has a few really good episodes, and this is the best of the bunch. I also liked that one where Victor Freeze returns to Gotham in like the future, and the police have to find like Batman's old cave to figure out how to beat him.
loved the joker indeed, watched this while young justice was starting and it was perfect to compare jokers, The Batman's joker is inventive while staying true to the character, while Young Justice had one of the worst jokers i've seen, bland to the core. in a world post BTAS' joker you have to appreciate not being safe. the episode in which this joker appears is great, and i remember an episode where he is in a giant balloon and he goes from saying jokes to pissed off cuz of the bat just like hamill's joker, to me that facial and vocal transition from laughter to extreme hate is the core of hamill's clown prince of crime and it's present in The Batman's version of him, while adding physicality to it.
without this dreadlocks joker the rest of the animated ones are completely bland, safe and stale thanks to the perfection of BTAS and Hamill.
is beware the batman worth getting into? other good jokers that do something besides trying to immitate hamill's? i don't remember honestly
>is beware the batman worth getting into?
It's pretty good. It introduces some new villains while weaving an overarching story. The only things that hold it back are the CGI and the slow start, since it really picks up at around episode seven.
>that one where Victor Freeze returns to Gotham in like the future, and the police have to find like Batman's old cave to figure out how to beat him.
It's a good thing that the Bat-fuel didn't melt those steel beams.
Is was alright. Nothing too special, but still fresh, edgy, and enjoyable.
Never forget him /co/
This show's quality was all over the place. Lots of episodes were terrible, but some were fantastic.
If I were you OP, I'd just watch these episodes:
>Rubberface of Comedy
>Clayface of Tragedy
>The Laughing Bat
>Ragdolls to Riches
>Night & The City
>Fleurs du Mal
>Gotham's Ultimate Criminal Mastermind
>All of Season 4
The rest can be skipped.
An ugly shoeless jester looks more like the Joker than this generic ghost-faced mobster.
and actual green hair and not having black eyes with white pupils for no reason.
Seriously, he looks like the character designer was embarrassed with the character and took everything clown-like away from the design.
He took down Martian Manhunter, though.
It spent the first half of its run trying to be B:TAS with a more colorful and cartoony appearance- which didn't really work for obvious reason- and then embraced the campiness by the second half of its run, but didn't nail it nearly as well as The Brave and The Bold did.
The best thing about the show, ultimately, was Clayface.
The first three(?) seasons of BTAS had everyone with full features. After that they went to the simplified version with inverted pupils, then in Justice League and Batman Beyond they switched back to yellow eyed Joker.
I mean, it worked. As a kid my favourite part of the show was seeing what each new villain looked like now. Its not a coincidence my interest started to dwindle when they began running out of villains to reintroduce
Looking at them?
TAS has like 2 good episodes for every bad one, while TB has about the reverse.
Design and aesthetics were different. Things weren't as simplistic in design and more shows outsourced to Japanese studios then. Nowadays, it's all Korean studios using digital programs to animate. The proliferation of anime in the U.S. kinda created a competitive market in the action genre and the Japanese model usually trumped the American model due to the years of experience Japan had with cheap, quick production and animation with stylistic action.
Was more consistently good than Btas.
Btas gets graded on a curve because it was the first, but Model Ts dont win races.
Several episodes are held up but they are a sliver of the series.
The dcau got more and more consistent.
It was mediocre, but I will say this, the movie, Batman vs. Dracula is an underrated treasure, it's not the best Batman movie, but it's leagues and leagues better then the Batman and Son, Batman Vs. Robin, JL War, and Atlantis Rising movies.
Japanese animators are paid a fraction of what american animators get
So either you get a show that's animated like crap, or a show that's animated by koreans, which is a halfway in quality
Really I can't think of any cartoons that are actually animated (not flash or such) that are all animated in america, let alone action animation
I've had a strong suspicion from the start that role was written for the Riddler and they switched characters without really bothering to alter the script to compensate for the change in characters.
>They look similar
>Big fan of Kyon
>Noticed it now
in the 90s cartoons were made to be aired on broadcast television, where the audience is 10x larger than the cable audience was. it was also helped by most people not having cable yet, so most people were going to tune in to one of the five available channels. bigger audience watching = higher budget
Not really. Each member of the Injustice Gang served as a stand-in for the Light. Joker's role as a chaotic being in control of multiple plans foreshadowed Klarion's role as a chaotic being controlling multiple JL members in the finale.
I fucking loved how Batman's cowl was animated. He'd kind of use the cap to cover his front when he was just standing around, giving him a real shadowy look. It made him seem very ninja-like.
Yeah. But looking back, it had cool elements, just sucked as a Batman cartoon.
At least it's sucking makes it unique of the Batmn cartoons as opposed to Beware The Batman that was just boring.
it was alright, it was the first Batman show i watched on a regular basis.
agreed. KMR really showed off his range doing The Joker.
he did well, though I prefer Nolan North and Dana Synder's versions.
This Anon has a point.
BTAS gets held in such ridiculously high regard for it's good, but really, most episodes of the show weren't that good. The general design and atmosphere of the show was incredible, but not ever episode was a winner. In fact, most weren't.
The Batman definitely wasn't better than BTAS, but it was more consistent.
Hell, so were BatB and Beware for that matter.
>Deathstroke wasn't in this show.
Fuck off. At least watch the show you're talking about.
Beware the Batman had a good balance between the two characterizations, even if his motivation to target Batman kinda sucked.
He was an unhinged CIA agent that Alfred helped mentor during his MI6 days. After one incident, Alfred had him terminated. Slade became a mercenary as Deathstroke, and when he found Alfred in Gotham decades later, wanted revenge on him and Batman, whom he was jealous of and saw him as someone Alfred replaced him with.
If you haven't watched it, I'd reccomend checking out Beware. The artstyle's and animation are pretty unpopular, and a lot of people really hate the lasers, but it's well written and really well directed.
The second half of the show is definitely better than the first.
And to be fair, with the animation, it really came down to bad budget spending. The models are all pretty simple and basic, but the fight sequences are really well done and have a lot of weight to them. They spent a massive amount of time building an entire city set for Gotham, every single building is there together, in one consistent set, with rooms and everything, but they didn't have enough money to populate it and make it feel real.
Also the music's good.
You might wanna get an icepack. Your head's gettin' a little hot.
Everybody keep your cool, we got a hothead!
>Shit started on 4chan
>shits used almost exclusively on 4chan
>but it's shit, so surely it's reddit right?
No anon. 4chan is shit. stop pretending like everything that makes it shit is from somewhere else.
>no Harley/Ivy subtext
>what looks to be Babs/Ivy subtext
I'LL TAKE TWENTY
and then their relationship is never referenced again
She still showed up in The Batman Strikes!, at least.
Even then, the animation was getting better. I wonder how better it would've looked if it had gotten a second season with a bigger budget.
Her interaction with Robin was kinda cute.
Also, the Batman vs. Dracula movie was better than it had any right to be.
>Easily the worst adaptation
Really? No one, not even Weisman, liked it.
>Different strokes for different folks
My problem really wasn't with how he looked or sounded, it's that he, and all the other villains, were all made to be way more combat oriented. Outside of a few episodes the whole series focused way too much on batman being a street brawler and not him being the worlds greatest detective.
this is true, it seemed like every villain needed to be able to get in a fist fight with batman at some point.
If I remember correctly this was because there was a big push to market action figures with the show and having an action figure of a weak character is boring, Also if you watch the later seasons with this in mind you'll notice that every time the batmobile is being used there are a lot of commercial style shots of it.
It had the audacity to not be batman the animated series.
Never mind that the Clayface storyline was the best in any media or how Cobblepot was actually interesting for once. It sucked because it choose to be different.
BTAS-only fanboys can be annoying as fuck, but let's not pretend this show was some gentle flower that the fanbase crushed under the weight of NOT MUHS. It had plenty of stupid shit in it.
I think that made the fact that Riddler was an average figher at best stand out even more. In a world where everyone knows Kung Fu, Riddler had to use knock out gas to not get his teeth kicked in.
Did they ever do the Dark Knight Returns episode? I recall they were at some point gonna do an episode that featured an old batman driving a tank but i'm not sure if they got cancelled before they got around doing it
Well she is the Oracle
lol it's like Gal Gadot's wonder woman training. She spent more time putting her makeup on than hitting the weights, and the photograph I saw had her with a fucking tiny dumbell
This show has one of the dumbest iterations of Gotham.
>Blood banks with neon signs
>Every bit of data of every citizen in the town is stored in one single place
>Every buildings heating system is hooked up to one single boiler
Kung-fu Penguin was hilarious though, I don't see why people got so buttblasted about it. I definitely preferred his kabuki twins though. I like how we never found out if they were people or robots or whatever since they acted so weird and never talked.
I think the problem is that everyone was coming off of B:tAS and Justice League was airing at the time, so people had a problem with a Batman show that took a more silly/less realistic tone. It was a lot like the Batman Unlimited movies airing today. Silly toyetic stuff but still enjoyable.
I liked that idea that Penguin's brokering and laundering and general black market business lent itself to him being an old fashioned armchair anthropologist and that sorta translated into a orientophile, which happened to justify him knowing martial arts. I like to imagine Sammo Hung playing a kungfu Penguin would have been awesome. Seeing him show up to a brawl at the docks because his men are late, only to get into fisticuffs with one of the Robins and totally hold his own.
Same reason his robot dog bladewolf transforms into a motorcycle.
The joker drove down an ally. He needed something smaller to chase after him.