>ITT: Non-/co/ characters who could easily kill Superman
>Hard mode: No /a/
>What's that in my hand?
>In your hand
>It's two tickets to that thing you love
>The tickets are now
/tg/ has loads
Raistlin Majere, Elminster, Sauron, Gandalf, The God-Emperor Of Mankind, Slaanesh, Cthulhu, Cain...
Basically, any high-level mage or Pskyer will ruin him. We don't even need to bother with Gods, really.
Me I'd just shoot him with a kryptonite bullet nigga is easy like casting cure on a skeleton one hit he dead
Like a baby Maggie with a kryptonite bullet can do it that guy a puss like can't handle a green jolly rancher without dyin he's got space rock diabetes
When you get into the really high-tech sci-fi literature, there are tons.
Pictured in that post is the Shrike, from the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons. It's kind of like the Flash on steroids crossed with Colossus, and also covered in spikes. And capable of time travel.
Then there's Singularity Sky and Iron Sunrise by Charles Stross, where you get ships that are considered relatively low-tech being capable of glassing a planet.
I'm still working through a lot of other stories myself, but /tg/ can probably give you more recommendations if you ask.
Potterverse is basically FUCK YOU BECAUSE MAGIC
Pretty sure HP can kill Superman by just being the chosen one or any other deus ex machina
That's why I dropped the books after the second one.
>make overwhelming plot about mug blood wizard X true blood wizards
>never explains how this supposedly changes the magic levels
>whatever, what counts now is the wand
>massive plot about wands and whatnot
>fuck, this does not really matter as long you have the relics
>quest for the relics
>whatever, what really counts is the pure heart
>That's why I dropped the books after the second one.
>never explains how this supposedly changes the magic levels
>That's why I dropped the books after the second one.
It is explained (OoP iirc).
>Not everyone who is a Gryffindor is a good guy or a Slytherinis a bad guy
>5 book later, the good guys still Gryffindor and the bad guys Slytherin
How people find this entertaining again?
The storyline is decent but the artwork by Murata is amazing.
Just a lowlife thug who wanted his 15 minutes of fame.
The only Hotline Miami character who could possibly take down Superman is the handsome and thick-skinned Detective Manny Pardo.
A better question is:
>Non-/co/ characters would be worthy opponent to Popeye
Snape was a dick. Guy betrays everyone purely because he wants to smash Harry's mom's puss. He was a selfish asshole and I don't understand why everyone thinks he was some gallant hero.
reduce superman to a smoldering crater and he will live on in the hearts and minds of the people(and probably come back to life in like a week)
but destroy the ideals that superman stands for and he will surely cease to exist
>my heroic sacrifice
He was one autistic antagonist, and nothing changes that
Also he died a virgin almost in his 40
>you are here just to whine about children stuff?
Is not that the point of going on 4chan?
>The villain was the teacher of Defence Against the Dark Arts all along, jinkies!
>YOU HAVE TO READ ALL BOOKS TO TRULY GET IT!
Says the Twilight fans.
>IT IS BAD AT FIRST LISTEN, BUT WHEN YOU TRY A SECOND OR THIRD TIME, IT GETS BETTER
I really hate that fallacy
The question is, would Tendou regard Superman as a treasure of the world or would he just troll and shit talk him?
I read two books and did not liked it, I think it's a fair judgment
If it gets more mature or whatever later, does not really matter on the result of the franchise overall, since those two book are part of it, the first one being the most important
Also my critic was in how the world works.
It's magic and they kinda just do it. No stamina, no spiritual force, no limit use.
They say PALAVRUS LATINUS and it works. Although they never explain how one do invent a spell in first place, at same time they keep jumping on how the magic works. It is the wand, the prophecy, the blood, the school house, the family, the race, the prophecy all together.
That flaw is vital in a book about...well, magic.
Any of the three first Kamen Rider, IF they survive long enough to do a rider kick.
They wouldn't kill him but would depower his ass pretty hard
AM from "I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream".
Though he wouldn't kill him, rather keep tormenting him for eternity, torturing and playing games, altering his genetics, making him spend millenia in hunger, or with no feet, or with no eyes, or set in flames. Every time he died as a result would only to be brought back to life with technology.
>Also my critic was in how the world works.
>read Fellowship of the Ring.
>complain about how Middle-Earth makes no sense.
>where did all these elves come from?
>why are they better than everybody else?
>they never explain why all these human kingdoms are ruined.
>they introduced some mysterious guy with a pseudonym who was clearly supposed to be plot related, but he never did anything important.
>they never even explored what the ring can do, it's just a magic invisibility plot device, why wouldn't everybody just use it all the time?
Is Superman still vulnerable to magic?
Wizard with all his trick might be able to hang if he avoids him. I'm sure his Infinity Form would put up a good offense on Supes.
I stand by the highly academic theory that you CAN in fact cut Superman with a lightsaber.
Sauron and Gandalf would be easily killed, and whi is saying it IS someone that loves lotr.
Gandalf can die like any Human, so kn punch and he is over.
Sauron always lost on physically confrontation with beings weaker than Super.
Cthullu is no /TG/.
except they explain every single topic you mentioned
Even if you are not a Middle-Earth expert you get that elves are like angels, the ring is the core of all evil, human race is in decadence and Aragorn is a big deal
Can we take into account that Superman can't fight worth a shit? He pretty much just rushes people with speed or flight and throws haymakers. Which is why Batman can judo his ass all around despite having zero powers. So someone with a good amount of super strength and fighting know how can best him for most of the fight.
Gandalf the Grey yes, Gandalf the White it would be easy. As for the latter, even without the ring, Sauron is an extremely powerful angel-thing.
LOTR was never meant for power level comparisons and it shows. Hell Tolkien probably hates us all for even thinking about it. But those characters exist in a weird kind of loop where they are the most powerful being in their universe. Being powers of the world and all.
Snape being the villain was actually really clever thought. By that point 99% of the people actually reading had pretty much given for a fact that he was a Red Herring, and actually a nice guy. Even the whole First movie is him being a Red Herring.
Not only that, through the books you get to think Dumbledore knows it all, and he was always with Snape.
Suddenly he actually was the bad guy. It was clever in a way.
He is literally infinite. The manga is more about other people's fight, or him playing around, because he is by definition unbeatable.
It's all a big joke of sorts, but it get to be interesting how it get to be taken seriously at times.
>I will help this sociopath kill a child and a childhood rival so I can sex up a girl I called the magical N word.
>I am shocked. The sociopath killed her too! What a revelation.
> Necrophile rape probably happens.
>Ignore all the murders I did. I am a good guy now.
>I will only verbally abuse generations of children and help the hero only on my deathbed.
> I am a good friend.
People always say his powers supersede his ability to fight despite every time he's come face to face with someone of equal strength he get's trounced. Supes can't fight and he plays too fair.
You don't seem to understand what fallacy is. An opinion is a subjective concept, like taste as of itself. I can never be fallacious to claim it can change when you actually try something from another aproach.
Furthermore, you can claim not to like something, but it is beyond ridiculous to claim to understand that something if you don't even know it fully.
>the ring is the core of all evil
I am not about to say you are an imbecile for not getting how told you got, but I will at least point out you couldn't be more wrong on that, and I can't help but think you actually don't really know what the ring is, or how it was made.
The Elfs aren't angels either, Gandalf and his kin would be the closer to Angels, aside from Sauron, that we get to see on the first two books.
The point here is that you are making up what you want from what you read. You made up what you wanted with Lord of Rings and liked it, you made up what you wanted with another book and did not. It doesn't mean you get either book.
But he wasnt actually the bad guy... Its been a while since i read the books but wasn't Dumbldore going to die anyways from putting on that horocrux ring? Snape killing him only served to strengthen his cover with Voldemort.
If that's the case then I didn't got it like that. Guess I didn't pay attention.
Injustice is not very canon, anyone can get superpowers out of their asses and supes is pretty damn nerfed all around.
I love how so many people are assuming that these characters know what kryptonite is. Please, there are people on this planet that don't know what kryptonite is. Why would some person who has never heard of Superman know what it is, unless they had some sort of psychic powers to read his mind and find that out?
He even wrote a song about it.
If they had psychic powers they'd already have the leg up.
Plenty of DC characters have beaten Superman without the aid of kryptonite. Characters from another universe could very well beat him.
Potter has access to magic that manipulates time. If he uses that he could easily have Supes in a bad spot.
He uses magic so I put him in there.
I don't even play Kingdom hearts so I have no idea what you are implying.
he's a /co/ character though
She'd pull an ancient tome out of her ass I mean the library that would have a spell she needed to defeat him
It's still magic though. Again I don't play KH. I'm going by what people mention how he's so 'OP' or whatever compared to Mondo dude.
Hell do you want me to put Cecil or Bartz on there instead?
...the variation of strength in wands isn't truly introduced until book 7. There is never a massive plot about the wands, save for the linkage between Harry and Voldemort's wands... which was said to be the rarest of exceptions.
Also, it's pretty clear to anyone with even the slightest bit of insight that blood purity is a wizarding version of racism. It doesn't change magic levels at all, and never was shown to actually matter (just like race, which is a human construct).
Harry is never once saved by his pure heart. He is simply saved by having a heart. It was just the fact that Harry was feeling emotions that it saved him in Book 5... and that is honestly the only time his "heart" let him win the day.
Seriously, none of the stuff you mentioned even happens in the first two books (and even then, barely happens). Where are you getting off talking about anything?
Unless you just watched the movies, which were just constant beam struggles and jets of light.
>It's still magic though.
Any old magic isn't going to bring Superman to his knees it has to be fairly strong. Sora's "magic" doesn't even reach destructive levels like FF high tier magic. Even Harry Potter would have to pull out some forbid potent shit to really fuck Superman up.
No, Superman just doesn't have any extra defense against magic.
If it was a bit of magic that harmed him physically, he could resist it a bit. If Harry just hit him with a stunner though, he would be down for the count.
>destructive levels like FF high tier magic
Same anon here. Depends on what FF. If it's materia Supes could just break it before anyone can summon anything. If it's someone like FF4 he would have a harder time. Again I don't play KH so I have no idea how 'powerful' Sora is personally. I'm going by the people who keep claiming that the guy from XenoBlade can beat Sora.
I just find it weird that was the only thing you commented in the whole list I gave and nothing else.
>If Harry just hit him with a stunner though, he would be down for the count.
Hell yeah he would
Literally any wizard who can learn two whole words and say them in succession should be able to end Supes, it's their kill-all and supes doesn't outright negate magic so it would presumably work as easily as it would on anything. The series was written pretty shitty though since the cloak he got in the first book literally keeps death from being able to find you and that wasn't brought up until the very end of the series.
They didn't just hold the materia in their hands they put them in weapons and what not. It would take him a bit to figure out their source of power.
Super hearing. They'd have to teleport really fucking fast for him not to hear them.
No it doesn't, it doesn't protect you from jack shit.
It just makes you completely invisible. Perfect invisibility.
That is very useful, and very rare in the magical world... but wearing the cloak didn't stop Malfoy from fucking Harry up (in the 6th book) when he was under it.
>If Superman fought Fred Flintstone, who would win?
>Superman, I guess, unless Barney Rubble hit him from behind with a kryptonite club.
>they put them in weapons and what not. It would take him a bit to figure out their source of power.
Not if Supes just destroys the weapon. If he sees Barret or Vincent's gun he's not going to just let it hit him. He would disable that first before they could use magic. Materia is fragile. Meanwhile the other magic users can just use it unless Supes physically disables their bodies. So it depends on what FF character is fighting against Supes.
Kazuya on the other hand is literally a demon god depending on what version of SMT you consider canon as well as Demi-fiend.
>just like race, which is a human construct
le tumbledore army defending their favorite book
>He'd assumed they're regular ammo
Nah man he's going to try to knock them out and ask questions later. I'm comparing the FF folks to two people that can summon gods like Loki and Odin and armies of demons/other gods.
I'm not saying they can't do it just that it depends on what FF character.
Any Pratchett wizard could do it too. Probably any maiar or valar from LotR, or anyone with rad levels of magic.
From /tg/, you got cunts like Cain from WoD, or any Awakened Mage with a bunch of dots in Mind and Space.
4th book introduces Avada Kedavra
Hermione tells Harry that it takes a strong amount of power and meaning behind the words to actually work. She even says that Harry doing the spell would barely give someone a nosebleed
the anon is clearly confused because of the deathly hallows story about how it was created to hide from death. Which may or may not have even been true within context of the story
No, but I study human genetics. Never even posted on tumblr (but then again, who cares)
There is no actual biological basis for race. While there are some phenotype patterns that might point to it, there is nothing distinct.
Rather, humans are simply excellent at seeing divisions that aren't there, or patterns that don't exist.
For example, you can tell an average human to look for distinct shapes on a screen (leading them to believe there will be a hidden pattern). Then show them completely random static. They will point out and be able to trace distinct shapes that exist no where else but in their mind.
Humans are just really good at creating divisions, but that also helps us spot patterns and find cause/effect.
>Any Pratchett wizard could do it too
Most Pratchett wizards are fucking morons besides The Librarian, Munstrum and Ponders. Librarian could probably do it with all the crazy books he has, Ponders could probably use Hex to science magic up some Kryptonite, and we never really got a grasp of Munstrum's actual power level but he is the strongest on the Disc so it's probably really high.
>>there is no actual biological basis for race
>> next sentence is an example of said biological basis
there is a distinction genetically between races, these differences are minor phenotype variations. its like comparing dogs. its still a damn dog and it doesn't matter
>this guy doesn't know about locus heterogeneity or phenotypic heterogeneity
There is not cut and dry accepted biological definition for race. It's a social construct. For example... the two girls shown have the same parents. If you saw them on the street, there is no way you would guess they both belong to the same lineage.
are you retarded or just shitposting?
fa/tg/uy here, other TG characters that could take superman
Exalted: (that isn't a god) I think Chejop Kejak could.
Eclipse Phase: Manu Bhattacharya might die repeatedly, but I think he could kill Superman in the end.
40K: The Emperor could take Superman due to warp fuckery. Superman is weak to magic right?
>So he is like a cape character?
It's fusionist; combines fighting manga and western cape tropes.
Tone-wise, they essentially removed all the bullshit "getting stronger" parts of a shonen series and put in comedy instead, so it goes "jokes -> jokes -> FINAL BADASS CLASH" instead of "fighting fighting fighting fighting fighting fighting... FINAL BADASS CLASH"
>Superman is weak to magic right?
Magic isn't super effective towards him, but he doesn't have any special defences against it.
Think of it like this: a fireball will do fuck all to Supes because his HP is through the roof, but a save-or-die spell will in most cases wreck him.
>Hickok45 here. And look what gun we have today.
>That's right. I've been getting a lot of requests to review it so I requested it from Bud's Gun shop.
>we'd also like to thank Federal for supplying us with this Kryptonite tipped ammo.
> ITT: weebs assuming that vulnerability to magic is the same as a weakness
You make it sound like a scrub tier wizard shooting a fire ball will 1 hit k/o supes.
Magic =/= Kryptonite
The dude once was unaffected by magical transmutation that fucked up WW, Flash, GL, a New God and a fucking Angel of Heaven. AT THE SAME TIME.
Superman walked through the fucking magic spell shit and btfo'd the evil magic guy.
You done good m8, you done good
Here you go.
All these faggots assuming magic is an insta-win.
Okay, but on the other hand, Superman has been cut by magic playing cards before.
Generally, magic fucks him up, and he has no defense against it. Occasionally a writer will have Supes power through it by force of will, but these are exceptions, not the rule.
Primordial, Lovecraftian entity that eats universes. Also adding Freddy Krueger.
>Primordial, Lovecraftian entity that eats universes.
What? Like Mandrakk? I wonder who beat him?
In addition to being a highly skilled manipulator, he possesses an unparalleled grasp of the Gnosis, an ancient form of incredibly powerful magic once wielded by the forerunners of humanity.
How strong is Superman's sanity?
Can he thwart the mother of all plans?
Can he resist horrible mutation?
Can he resist warp fuckery?
Chaos is my main bet.
The other Monitors? Who transferred his consciousness into the Superman Thought Robot they created? Give him that and you might as well just have Superman pray to The Turtle, instead of to the Monitors, which is what the preteens who beat It had to do.
>supes is pretty damn nerfed all around
Injustice Supes is, if anything, massively overpowered. Injustice Supes took out the entire Green Lantern Corp, when canonical GLC would just send Sodam Yat, with or without the ring, to easily trounce him. He took Hal's ring, even though Hal's fought against gods, and somehow managed to one shot Shazam, who canonically beat him on Earth Prime and knocked the shit out of him in Kingdom Come. They act like Wonder Woman's the only one who could take him, when Flash has speed blitzed him and mentioned in the main universe that he could knock him out with a dozen infinite mass punches before he could blink or completely strip him of his kinetic energy. Nevermind the bullshit with him somehow killing Lobo.
Figured I'd elaborate a little more.
Kelhus is from a group of highly secluded monks called the Dunyain who have spent the last 3000 or so years selectively breeding and training themselves to be physically and mentally perfect, operating on a philosophy that some unknown force is the source of all thought and action. In order to attain true enlightenment, they must surpass the "darkness that comes before" in order to be fully self motivated and in control of their own minds and bodies.
Kelhus, as an end result of this process, has been trained in all manners of combat as well as in the structure and anatomy of the human body, able to read faces and actions well enough to essentially read minds at a glance. This makes him deadly in both combat and conversation.
The first trilogy of books featuring him have him in exile from his monastery, searching for his father who has sent for him. In order to find his father, he embeds himself within a budding holy war where he convinces most of the army that he is a prophet, indeed he is God made flesh.
>The other Monitors? Who transferred his consciousness into the Superman Thought Robot they created?
I said Superman, not thought robot. Mandrakk showed up at the end of final crisis, too.
>implying superman didn't prep a plan that involved creating an army to stop him
>giving batman a pass on prep, but not superman
it doesn't matter how he won, he still did. Sure in a one on one in an indestructible box made of plotanium, he'd lose, but why would supes ever put himself in that situation?
I thought the whole Goku v Superman thing had been settled twice over.
Goku has limits. His entire schtick is pushing past those limits and winning, but unfortunately Superman is a being who is literally limitless. There is nothing for Goku to work towards because Superman will always surpass that next level.
>but unfortunately Superman is a being who is literally limitless
This was such a half assed handwave. Superman's been beaten before; the only issue being debated is whether Goku could do the same.
Yeah, it's been settled.
Still baffles me that angry gokufags entirely missed the point they were making.
They literally called Superman a badly written mary sue whose superpower is beating literally anything that's against him.
Both deathbattles, particularly the second one, was heavily pro-Goku.
naw, different version of Superman have different limiters, however the newest version of Goku has an ability where he can't be hurt by beings that aren't also gods.
However Superman Blue is practically designed to defeat Goku in all his forms, you can't really punch him cuz he's made of energy, he absorbs all energy and has the ability to fight deities so even Super Saiyan God Goku won't be able to match him.
all the threads and whowouldwins and vs matches almost always neglect to take into account the purpose of the characters they involve.
..and superman's purpose is to be the strongest. To always win and save us.
Feats don't matter because he is always able to surpass what he has done previously.
I'll be honest, I don't think Superman could take the Eldrazi titans or Phyrexia.
He'd make pretty much everyone else in modern Magic lore his bitch though. Planeswalkers aren't what they used to be.
>..and superman's purpose is to be the strongest. To always win and save us.
Superman was created as being about as strong as Spider-Man, without the ability to fly and no precognition. And since then he's bounced around in strength, from being way below Goku's tier in the DCAU, injurable with electricity and human weapons, to being a gag character in the Silver Age, to his modern incarnation, which is most comparable to Goku. And unlike Superman, who's nothing in comparison to guys like Lucifer and The Spectre, Goku, by the end of Z, really was the most powerful being in the universe, far, far stronger than even its various gods.
>completely missing the point of my post this hard
What part of "feats don't matter" is hard for you to get inside that thick fucking skull of yours?
Going out on a limb and proposing Alex Mercer/James Heller.
Only people shown to be capable of putting them down for good have been each other.
Pariah is James Heller's daughter anyway. For some reason. Prototype 2 is weird.
I'm aware, but assuming this is a fight to the death Blacklight can't be killed.
It even developed an immunity to the chemical compound specifically created to kill it after a while.
batman already tried. Darkseid survived. It only weakened him. The flash then made death run darkseid through. He still didn't die.
Wonderwoman then removed him from all his hosts. He still didn't die.
It tooks Superman singing on some perfect multiversal resonance to finally kill him.
It is never suggested that any one wand is inherently "better" than another with the exception of the elder wand. The only thing that's mentioned is that using a wand that isn't yours will impair your performance, with the severity of the issues depending on whether or not you won the borrowed wand properly or not.
This is why I don't think we will ever see Flash in a Deathbattle.
Only character I can think of competing with him is an awakened Accelerator, but even then Speed Force would probably edge out.
>treats this one specific kid like shit for most of his life because he's the offspring of a guy that bullied him and got to smash this girls pussy and not him
Snape is levels of retarded NEET rage
> implying you need to kill someone to beat them
epic meem friendo
Was my response not mean-spirited enough for you?
C'mon pal, we can't all be angry belligerents.
>we can't all be angry belligerents.
you've obviously forgot which website you're on
>top 50 to save mankind and I will guarantee you he would win
Didn't dozens of Supermen try this in Crisis On Infinite Earths and lose? And Hal Jordan, as Parallax, took out Superman with one punch.
mate, vegeta was able to hurt beerus in his regular super saiyan form. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Oh and goku got killed by a regular mook laser while in god mode.
>inb4 he let his guard down
then he can be hurt by non gods
Superman once got body swapped with someone that was a normal human. He was able to beat the guy in his fully powered body through plain old marital arts skill. Only reason he keeps things simple while powered is he normally does not need to do anything else and the reason he takes so many hits is to gauge how much power it'll take to take them down.
That kill spell was made to kill humans. Superman is not human so it could not be as effective on him. Plus even if differences in biology would not be an issue Supes is so strong the spell may need to be strengthen before it would have its intended affect on him.
ITT: Characters who have unlocked the secrets of CHIM
Actually a plain old fireball spell will effect Supes the same way non-magical fire would. Now if you changed the spell to be fire that will burn anything, and were able to put enough magic into it to back up those words, then you'd fuck up Supes.
But Superman actually doesn't have any defenses at all agaisnt magic, so it would have as much of an effect on him as it would against any other human. Also its not a spell for killing humans, its a spell for killing in general. The main problem in tryign to use Avada Kedavra on him would be making sure that it actually lands on him and he doesn't just dodge it
Pretty sure that if you went to the wiki right now and hit random, there is a 50% chance the SCP you get would fuck superman up pretty good.
I'm pretty sure the Death Note has something right in the front that says it will kill any "HUMAN" who's name is written in it.
He's not a human either.
But I have not seen Death Note in a number of years.
Could The Thing beat Superman? If Superman got the drop on The Thing he could eye beam that motherfucker, and probably manage to burn up every individual cell. If The Thing got the drop on Superman it could just assimilate him.
It has been going around the universe assimilating various forms of life for an unknown period of time, including the race of aliens whose ship it hijacked in the beginning. I always figured any carbon based life form is prone to Thing-assimilation.
We don't really know the specifics of The Thing. There is also a difference between realistic Sci-Fi and Comic Books Super Science and Magic settings.
Sure, but The Thing isn't really what I'd call realistic Sci-Fi. It's more of a grounded Cosmic Horror, if that makes any sense. It attempts to create this horrific unstoppable killing machine, and at the same time ease you into it and make it believable. Sort of like a modern time Lovecraftian old god without the whole god-aspect of it.
Also, while we're not told the specifics of The Thing, a lot is inferred. If The Thing has assimilated at least two different intelligent races, I'd wager it could assimilate Kryptonians too. Even so, it's not guaranteed it would succeed at it.
>It's more of a grounded Cosmic Horror, if that makes any sense. It attempts to create this horrific unstoppable killing machine, and at the same time ease you into it and make it believable. Sort of like a modern time Lovecraftian old god without the whole god-aspect of it.
Sounds a lot like the Alien from Alien to me. A hell of a lot.
Funnily in Superman/Alien the facehuggers are unable to impregenate supes, until he is depowered via plot.
Upon getting his powers back, the chest burster is crushed in his chest and destroyed.
Power creep in anime tends to go into universal tier reality warper range. There's also a large list of characters that actually can't beat Superman but their fanboys will rage and argue that they can until infinity.
Rachel from animorphs if she absorbs the dna of someone who can beat superman, and was still alive.
the others won't kill superman.
maybe tobias and jake, but jake would still try to justify it, Rachel will do it because she can, then cassie will bitch about "you cant just kill someone" while marco cracks a joke and Ax tries to pronounce 'kryptonite'
> There's also a large list of characters that actually can't beat Superman but their fanboys will rage and argue that they can until infinity.
case in point
The last batch of upgrades do help but the DBZ universes are absurdly tiny and made of paper mache so it's hard to take the (possibly ) universe shattering punches upgrade serious. You probably shouldn't in the first place since the writer makes gag manga
Superman's dealt with Mxyzptlk, so he's no stranger to trickster gods. He'd probably find a way to beat Q at his own game.
Now, if he was facing a different John de Lancie character he'd probably get his shit kicked in.
Q is much stronger than that character you just mentioned from a childrens cartoon. Much smarter too.
Going by canon all it would take to defeat him would be someone willing to befriend him. It worked for Tirek and even fugging yellow quiet.
Bluh hardmode whatever.
Could Shiki trace the concept of a Kryptonites death to kill Superman?
>Could Shiki trace the concept of a Kryptonites death to kill Superman?
Also, superman himself has no death to trace. Superman's personal reaper once said the he will never be able to take superman, because he seems to go on forever. The reaper was absolutely perplexed about what superman is.
He's more than a kryptonian.
Because some /a/ characters powers are just "I win".
Shiki could actually kill 'Superman' and not Clark Kent. Or the other way round. Or she could kill his powers, or his memories, or any number of things that would totally disable him.
He'd have to let her hit him, but he probably would, since he generally has nothing to fear from knives.
>that level of masturbation
I hate it when writers do this. Assign the popular culture status of a character to the actual character by making them endless or whatever.
It's not even very apt where Supes is concerned. He's already fallen far out of popularity. Eventually he'll be forgotten.
>Knife that allows mimic abilities
>Not only does it mimic physical appearance, but physical attributes as well
>very painful, psychological damage if taking on appearance of different gender or extreme differences in attributes
>The effect's duration is proportional to the amount of skin severed by the knife
>The effect wears off immediately if the imitated subject dies.
So it's possible, but you're not going to survive the fall
What do you mean
Also pic related could defeat him too
No you couldn't. Haven't you read your Morrison? Superman lives on in our collective unconscious, he can never die.
Even if you kill the memesmiths (The writers and artists) that create him and tell his story, and erase everyone's memory of him he'll live on.
Even the Ancient greeks and romans knew of Superman. (through their incarnation, Hercules).
>Supes ceased to be an icon decades ago.
Aight, im gonna stop replying now, cause you're obviously just baiting.
I've seen people give plenty of legitimate reasons for not liking Harry Potter, but you just seem like an actual autist who, for some reason, wanted and expected Harry Potter to be some sort of shounen about power levels.
I think CwC in his foreverial final form without him being a kissless virgin after a date with a boyfriend free sweetheart from the ground up foreverially happy and complete with his daughter crystal could takes supes imo.
The end of Stardust Crusaders, even before the anime fucking confused me because of the goddamn asspull by Jotaro
>YOU PISSED ME OFF
Johnathan, Joseph, Josuke, and Johnny, they all didn't have asspulls like that
Joseph, to a lesser extent because of how much luck that fucker had
I know this isn't hard mode, but Okuyasu is probably the weakest JJBA character that could beat Superman. He just needs one good swipe at his vitals and he'll be dead. If he fucks that up (and considering it's Okuyasu we're talking about here, he probably will), he's screwed.
Yeah, knowing him, he would fuck it up.
But, then again, there's the thing about stands; If you don't have a stand, you can't actually see other people's stands, which is a huge advantage
I'm sure superman could see stands.
He can see in the fourth dimension, fifth dimension and is able to see souls. I would not be surprised in the slightest.
The 'haha XD meme haha XD ahhah" cancerous reason that's killing /co/.
That's no joke. The specter of that accident iced the Superman movie license for 20 years. Another incident like that in today's market, and the Superman brand will be as good as dead.
The last time anyone actually gave a shit about Superman was when he died. And they cared for maybe a few hours.
He's simply not the symbol he once was. To you, maybe, he is, but you're a cape fan, surrounded by other cape fans. The average person does not think "what would Superman do" in response to a problem. They don't think about Superman at all.
I'm not sure why you'd evoke a Superman fan's name for someone saying that nobody cares about Superman.
Either way, it's true. You just have to look at his sales, the performance of his films in comparison to other heroes, etc. People only really think about him when you shove him in their faces. Finding a kid that would seriously say "Superman is my favourite superhero" these days would be rare as hell.
>humans are the only species on earth that tens of thousands of years in isolated populations had no effect on
There's not enough genetic difference that we cannot all fuck each other and reproduce still imo. In a strict biological sense there's no more race between you and a china or african man than there is your own siblings. Genetic variety maybe, race none imo.
>Genetic variety maybe
That's what race is, the difference between ethnicities. You people are butthurt over semantics.
>That's what race is, the difference between ethnicities.
Not in a sense that anyone that matters cares about? When we say variety imo we mean genetic variety. Not "Oh WOW look at that skin and those cheek bones!" variety which is completely superficial.
There's more difference in 'race' between African tribes, and different regions of white people than there is genetic variety between each other. Just because some people look different doesn't mean race in whatever stupid way you're thinking exists.
There is more genetic variation within small chimpanzee populations than there is throughout the entirety of the human species. There is also more genetic variation between various ethnic groups in Africa than there is between the various "races." But no one can seem to decide what qualifies as a human race, anyways, which is why Italians were able to make the jump between white and non-white; nothing changed with the genome, just the social perception regarding Italians.
Kazuraba Kouta could kill Superman.
And i'm not talking about Orange arms Kouta. No, i'm not talking about jimber arms lemon energy Kouta. Hell i'm not talking about Kachidoki arms Kouta either. I'm talking about man of the beginning kouta with the kiwami lockseed (which is capable of summoning the orange, pine, ichigo, suika, banana, grape, kiwi, melon, matsubokkuri, kurumi, mango, donguri, durian, every energy lockseed, kachidoki), two musou sabers at once due to being handed one from zangetsu as well as his own, capable of being able to manipulate the planets inside the helheim forest, the ability to be able to control the power of inves, not just the elementary inves, and hell not even the advancd forms, but all the way to their full forms after being able to feed them multiple lockseeds, the ability to be able to open gates to where ever he wants in the universe so that he could throw that god damn chating faggot kabuto into space when he tries to go fast, having dj sagara on the side line ready to throw him a random upgrade if something is ready to turn the tide against him as well as the silver and golden apple lockseeds given to him by lapis after showing him how to play soccer properly with the drive lockseed advancing to the tridoron lockseed allowing him to have a better form of Shinnosukes ultimate rider form as well as having decade turn a clone of himself into final form ride on the clone allowing him to use himself as a weapon while using every other lockseed that he has in his possession through the power of the kiwami lockseed.
>There is more genetic variation within small chimpanzee populations than there is throughout the entirety of the human species.
This. But it doesn't even matter because all mammals share like what, 99% of their dna anyway IMO?
Magic is something he's unresistant to. Magical fire will affect him as if he were human and took mundane fire to the face. Magical weapons will normally cut him.
That said, Stands are typically psychic, not magic. To follow the example, fire produced by pyrokinesis is mundane fire that he's resistant to. So if Polnareff walked up to Superman and tried to stab him