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Thoughts?
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>>77661997
What would a 00's look like?
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>>77662014
Might be a live-action dude trying to impersonate the cartoon dude, but failing.
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>>77662014
Thick lines
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>>77662014
Hartman
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Animated competently, 1980's style is O B J E C T I V E L Y better.
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ITT: Cherry Picking
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>>77662060
Prove it.
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>>77662014
Probably dark.

Invader Zim and Shadow the Hedgehog were all from that era
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>>77662014
>00's
simple but still 90's
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>>77661997
>Thoughts?
I think this thread has been posted many times over.
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Harry Partridge is a twat.
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>>77662310
Why's that?
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>>77661997
Art style change with the time, so what else is knew?
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>>77662059
>1980's style
80s style is fucking stiff shit with no personality.
For that matter 90s style in OPs pic is bullshit. Look at how different every 90s nicktoon looks
Also while I admire his skill as an animator, I've never liked Harry's style.
For that matter 10 cartoons in that list do indeed look pretty bland since AT came out, except Gravity falls.
But AT at least had the charm of representing children sketches at the beginning of the series.
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Why did he use the pilot for Gravity Falls?
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>>77662495
Because it has worse animation, and OP wants to prove his point with something that didn't even air on TV.
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>>77662014
A bit like Fairy God Parents and Kim Possible and Recess.
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>>77662511
but its a .png
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>>77662495
Because is bait.
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>>77661997

> wants to discuss animation
> posts still image
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>>77661997
Honestly, the 90s were too DREAMWORKS FACE for my liking, even when I was a kid living through them.I prefer what the kids have these days.

>>77662014
Nothing of value came form that decade
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>>77661997

>20 year difference
>Rounded features
>Rounder eyes vs ovals
>Flatter hair vs floofier hair
>No shoulders vs shoulders
>Wart nose vs oblong nose
>Shallow mouth vs deep mouth
>Ear outline vs ear detail outline
>No elbow vs elbow
>No shoulder vs shoulder
>No neck vs with nect
>Cylinder arms vs arms with muscle outline
>Sausage fingers vs skeletal outline
>Chest abdomen cylinder body vs chest abdomen separation

After two decades, it's become simple.
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>>77662333
Well trips McGee it's because Harry gets to make cartoons all he wants and we don't
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>>77661997
This >>77662627 , everything is just dumbed down, simpler, more accessible. Also it's easier to make, you need less illustrators and animators if everything is fat. And fatness is accepted social norm nowadays so you can get away with it while making more money.

So, to sum up:
> population is dumber
> population is fatter
> business needs to increase profits while lowering cost
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>>77661997
That's not necessarily true. Many of the shows you listed have good animation. Also, the animation of pic related is god tier imho.
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>>77662678
That's the most bullshit thing I have read so far. Plenty of show rely on flash or toonboom and most don't have fat main protagonists.
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I want to see a dude like this for every decade starting in 1920
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>>77662703
>good animation
>posts a tumblr gif
You must be really stupid
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>>77662163

I cannot look at anything from this cartoon without hearing the intro in my head and laughing
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>>77662743
I am pretty sure he was talking about the animation of the show in general, not that particular gif.
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>>77662703

Archer's whole fucking thing is that it has relatively shitty animation but good art you god damn retard kill yourself FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
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>>77661997
Shading is for the weak.
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>>77662783
You seem mad.
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I tend toward realism when drawing and I don't like Tumblr noses at all but I really prefer the more modern, simple models for cartoons. It's easier on the eyes when animated.

The old 90s stuff is more realistic and still frames look more interesting, but the animation in TV runs was usually pretty stiff compared to AT or OTGW, and regardless of muh Tumblr I feel like the style has legitimate charm when used by someone who knows what he's doing.

I also dislike cartoons made in that angular Hanna-Barbera look, it always struck me as lifeless with the exception of Samurai Jack because SJ had great artistic direction to compensate.
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>>77661997
>Thoughts?

Around the late 90's, Hannah Barbera stopped trying to imitate Disney/Comic Books and started going with more stylized characters. This made animation faster/cheaper/more consistent/accessible and even more reliant on writing and cinematography than on off-model takes and visual slapstick.
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>>77662783
Oh. I got it mixed up. It has decent animation imho and God tier art. That is what I meant. Also, the other shows you listed have pretty good animation too. I don't see why you're so angry. In your opinion, which animated show has the best art?
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>>77663053
How is the animation decent? It's basically South Park tweening with realistic models
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>>77661997

Your artwork sucks.
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>>77663121
It's not fluid or beautiful but I've seen a lot worse is what I meant. Compared to /co/ standards it's not good but by mainstream standards, I think it holds up. There is a lot more crappy, harder to look at animation out there. **Allen Gregory**.
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>>77662783
Anon, I think you might be getting a bit too angry about opinions on taiwanese cave painting websites again.
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On the plus side, you almost never see terrible lopsided B^U mouths in cartoons anymore.
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>>77662060
>trends dont exist
cherry picking would be choosing the outliers

00s trend was thick lines and angular shapes
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>>77661997

God the 90s one looks like such a punchable faggot

I prefer the other design only because of that
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>not posting the full version
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>>77663317
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>>77663372
Wasn't there one for the 60s as well? I remember the original thread but didn't save anything/
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>>77663389
i didnt want people to call me out on putting 2 McCraken shows on there

there was another trend in the late 2000s
>flapjack
>chowder
>fosters

and all the claski csupo shows had the same style but thats to be expected
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>>77663372
70s is house of rock

Just needs some conjunction junction
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>>77663317
are we just going to ignore the fact that only one out of the five cartoons on the bottom were any good?
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The eyes are a bit too far apart in the 2010's one.
The only one with eyes that far apart is Clarence, and he's meant to look retarded.
The others have their eyes closer together, or is AT, which doesn't really count because the artstyle in that show is way different to the other 4.
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>>77663510
Whoops meant for >>77663372
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>>77663372
80's wins for cutest style.
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>>77663372
80s had the best humans.
90s had the best anthropomorphics.
40s beats all.
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>>77662163
I think it looks cool.
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>>77663479

I agree there were trends, but that's also because all of those shows were outsourced to the same handful of studios, and that matters much more than people would like to admit. They'd all look alike because, just like Klasky Csupo, they were all drawn and animated by the same people overseas.

Nowadays, the common thread is flash/toonboom production. There are some things that those programs just do better, and that's guiding design. It's the tail wagging the dog.
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Really should remake this but have the characters wear or act like their decade.

90s drawing looking like the BK kids club
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>>77663372
80's looks really sexual
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>>77663479
Dexter isn't McCracken, it's Tartakovsky
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>>77663544

40's were produced for the cinema. It's like comparing TV CGI cartoons to Pixar shorts/movies.
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seems to me like animators grew out of their furfag days
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Somebody need some aughts?
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>>77662512
>Fairy god parents
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>>77662014
It was a wonderful and horrible time.
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>>77663949
>shitty flat geometrical designs
>stiff jittery "anime" rip offs
What was going on back then?
The only well designed cartoon on that chart is the proud family.
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>>77664184
>proud family.
>Only

Are you for real? Or you just baiting me?
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>>77663949
Most of them are fucking weeaboo wannabee style and flash stuff
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>>77662867
>shading
Your art vernacular is lacking. The proper term is called rendering.
*tips trilby
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>>77664184
The anime boom was still going, and only just beginning to die because of the over saturation of mill-grist crap that the Japs bundled with the good stuff to recoup losses.
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>>77661997
>Gravity Falls pilot
They look so cute.
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>>77664221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1IfrKO4Nk
Proud Family is really well animated, especially the faces. Its willing to go off model and exaggerate but saves it for important times. It also has very fluid movement.
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>>77664799
the show sucked but damn I forgot that the animators actually tried in that one despite most of the 2000s
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>>77663372

Wow, somewhere after the 80's and 90's, animation went to hell. My opinion, flash killed it. And because an entire generation of animators were brought up on flash as the "new medium" for animation, that lack the discipline older animators have for design and detail.
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>>77665248
>flash killed it
That's certainly part of it. Computers in general made animation quicker and easier at the expense of quality. Lowering the learning curve makes discipline less necessary, allowing projects to tolerate laziness more.
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>>77665248
>Implying that shit hasn't been outsourced to the cheapest Asians anyone can get on payroll for ages

Other than big wig movie studios, there aren't really animators making cartoons in America. Production crews for your average cartoon focus on the story, music, storyboards and writing, and voice acting rather than the pain in the ass that animation is. Flash just made their jobs easier, because of course they aren't going to painstakingly draw it by hand when there is an alternative.
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>>77663372
>>77663539
>>77663680
80s had a lot Japs working in cartoons
so people were drawn the cutest.
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>>77662014
>>77662038
>>77662039
>>77662045
>>77662163
>>77663949
I'm tired of people bashing the 00s. They always bring up 2006-2009 when they say "they sucked". Bieber, iPhones, social media, Hannah Montana, Jersey Shore, etc. are 2006-2009, not 2000-2005.

2000-2005 awesome, like the 90s
2006-2009 sucked

Remember that now.
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>>77661997
Why does 90s look like Dan VS?
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>>77663372
>>77662059

>not posting the better 80s
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>>77666644
I remember 2000-2005 being mostly 9/11 fallout and gangsta rap.
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>>77662163
You serious? The 90s were the Age of Edge.
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>>77663372

my waifu! how nice.


.still missing the 00s though.
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>>77667273
>posting the version not done by japanese animators
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>>77667338

i have that one too, just not the correct expression.
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>>77666644
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>>77667522
>>77667273
those were by japanese artists? are you sure they were not made by korean or french artist

that's the thing about 80s shows, they were so inconsistent and only looked good when the japanese did work on them, few of them were entirely commissioned in japan like the D&D cartoon of the Pole Position cartoon.
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>>77661997
>1997
>>77662014
>2014

what in the fuck.
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>>77663372
I always prefer the 80 style for some reason
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>>77667575

yeah, it gave me troubles when i was trying to draw her 10 years ago.

here's my favorite, more womanly than 'cute".
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>>77667624
fair enough, but hey, at the least i can still tell them apart, i been drawing cleo for awhile.

also i did the 2 80s pictures.
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>>77662163
Don't forget Batman Beyond and Cybersix
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>>77662014
Anime influence
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>>77667725

good for you. oh well, im going back to drawing board.
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>>77666644
>2000-2005 awesome, like the 90's
Also nice quad dubs
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>>77662014
>What would a 00's look like?

Giant heads with small bodies, wearing T-shirts and pants of solid colours.

My example is Timmy but other cartoons has the same style.
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>/co/mblr doesnt know the difference between animation and art style.
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>>77667981
I was 6 on 9/11, it didn't change anything for me.
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>>77667725

ps. stop giving her human feet FFS, Pepi!
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>>77668057
>calls it /co/mblr
>still browses this board
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>>77661997

The more you keep crying about how much your childhood rocked because of cartoons only serves to prove how terrible it really was and what a latchkey you really where
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>>77663949
Why hate the 2000s, I remember that it had soe pretty good cartoons, and bad ones, just like any other decade. Also, the recession made studios take less risks and cut back money in general, which is why there was a lot of shit in the late 2000s. The early and mid 2000s were pretty good. I mean in this image alone, I can honestly say Avatar was among the best Western cartoons ever made. Teen Titans, Megas XLR, Foster's, KND, FoP, etc. -- there is some good shit here.

Also, I can't be the only one who was raised in the 2000s, are all of y'all like 25+?
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>>77665507
Definitely this. Also, simple animation doesn't always mean it's shit.
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>>77661997
>one eyebrow up, one eyebrow down

I don't respect anyone who do this.
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>>77663317
>a total of 3 shows used
>one of them actually debuted in the 90s
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>>77667923
>>77667624
did you actually capture your own screenshots?
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>>77663949
>flipping the mouths on the TD pic to make it look more unnatural
For what purpose
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>>77668608

yes, from that DVD pack from shout factory, they're a bit off though.
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>>77662014

4kids-dubbed Anime
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>>77668585
Not even Spock?
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>>77664799

Yeah it was gorgeous. Bruce W Smith was the director/producer, he is a Disney Feature Animator.
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>>77668689
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

maybe you should make a tumblr blog sharing screenshots of cleo, they could be useful
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>>77661997
It's okay to have preferences, but it's pretty obvious that there's nostalgia-fueled bias. Especially since there's some slight cherry picking going on and it seems like he deliberately chose expressive shots for the 90's and blank stares for the 10's. I know SU tends to be pretty expressive despite it's simplistic face style.

Also while I liked a lot of 90's shows as a kid with that style, I always hated that type of face.
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>>77663372
Call me names, I don't care.

What's the name of the movie (I think it was a movie) of the picture left to Thundercats?
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now someone get some gifs/webm and compare

comparing still images is as bad as people taking one still frame and saying something is animated bad when its a smear
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>>77669477
movie? dude, that's adventures of the gummi bears
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>>77669541
I said I think it was.

Thanks anyways
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>>77661997

Neither of those character designs actually look aesthetically appealing under either aesthetic, though.

Design is more than just a level of detail; it's what you focus on that draws the audience's eye, how the characters move and how they interact with the world. Both Steven Universe and Darkwing Duck look good in their respective shows because they were designed around their respective art aesthetics.
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The 2010 examples are all children, and the actual art for 1990s doesnt line up to the examples, where the humans aren't nearly as exaggerated. The art better fits 2005ish era animation a la Kim Possible and w/e
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>>77669584
>Steven Universe
>look good
Pick one.
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>>77668585
Have fun with your stiff drawings then
Asymmetry is the key to breathing life into illustration, animation, and even composition
Intentional Symmetry can be used to convey a certain mood, however.
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>>77662014
Flash/Computer animated?

You can't find too many similarities and even OP's examples are cherry picking.
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>>77669751
What's it like being blind
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>>77668384
I was raised in the 2000's and I still remember it being mostly shit up till around 2007.

I mean there were shows that were decent and even a few that were good, but nothing like Gargoyles and Darkwing Duck or Avatar and Gravity Falls.
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>>77669799
>that based cop show
based as fuck
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Wait, I don't get it. Some people actually don't like Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Clarence and Gravity Falls?
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>>77668600
dexter's lab
total drama island
replacements
samurai jack (in the flat and angular way, i know it was lineless)
my gym partner's a monkey
time squad
johnny bravo, though it was more the later seasons
puffy ami umi
camp lazlo

the three shows i posted probably set the trend
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>>77669799
>>77671062
>Calm down, go get something to eat.
>It's too early! It's eleven o'clock!
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>>77661997

>Phineas and Ferb in the 2010s.
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>>77671276
>Irving was one of the first characters made
Huh
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>>77671303

Irving. Irving never changes.

He'll probably show up on Milo Murphy as well.
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>>77670927
... Avatar premiered in 2005. And before Avatar we had Teen Titans to fill the surprisingly good dramatic comedy for weeaboos niche.
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>>77663372
>>77667006
I want to fuck 80s boy.
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>>77671385
also xiaolin showndown to a lesser extent
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>>77671303

It looks like he was originally going to have baljeet's place.
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>>77671303
The story behind it is that Bajeet was originally supposed to be a very minor character. Once they cast an actor for him, they promoted him to a main character because they found the voice to be so funny. He ended up taking Irving's place in the group.
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>>77661997
i love harry, but fuck is this a stupid picture to argue against modern cartoons.
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>>77668555
Gravity Falls pic is cluttered and filtered to hell. It's on the same level of respect that a Thomas Kinkade painting deserves.
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>>77670240
You picked the worst possible example, brava
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>>77671768
Are you mad he pointed out how shitty they look?
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>>77669799
>>77671062
Glad to see I wasn't the only one that loved this show.
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>>77662014

NEON

NEON EVERYWHERE

AND MORE NEON
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>>77663949
Oh fuck what's that show with the ginger brother and sister? I have the vaguest memory of it.
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>>77672081
The Replacements or something. They could use this phone and get anyone replaced with cool people. The first thing the did was replace their way out of a crappy orphanage.
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Was this posted to advocate in favor of 1990's?
Cause I think that style disgusting to look at when used in humans.
Even Harry's version makes me want to puke in my mouth, it's so fucking hideous.
It falls so hard on the uncanny valley that it might as well wear parachutes. Robotic looking grotesque humanoids.
As for the modern cartoons, not only they look great for cartoons (hint that something is human but have no anatomical accurate part clashing with gross cartoony eyes, noses and mouth and let the brain do it's work) but also animate a thousand times better.
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>>77663372
>that feeling knowing Iwao Takamoto did most of H-B's human characters in the 70's and up to the 80's.

>that feeling of massive Japan outsourcing in the 80s to coincide with the rise of Bubblegum Crisis
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>>77661997
animaniacs and bonkers, as well as many 90s cartoons with thinner/whacky characters was insanely guilty of "noodle-arms". just reminding you all.

Also, the simpler a model, the easier it is to animate. If you want animation to die, then by all means, push for the more complex models.
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>>77663372
Penny is a qt.
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>>77672255
Coyote didn't have noodle arms and he was animatable.
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>>77672178
>'why was this posting to advocate for X????'
>advocates for Y to make up for it
it still looks like shit, nice hot opinions. Good luck finding someone who genuinely agrees with you on that other than 'i-its cheaper to make!'.
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Who did 80s characters in the pic?
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>>77674237
>90s
kek
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>>77674237
I like the 60's pic best.
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>>77662511
Technically that's art. Animation is how the art flows across multiple frames.
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>>77662678
>simplistic = dumber
What an idiot
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>>77674514
When people say Evangelion saved anime in the 90s they aren't lying.
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>>77674237
>cherrypicking saber marionette for the entirety of the 90s
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>>77674237
I like 2000s, 80s, and 60s the best.
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>>77675142
The original Sailor Moon might have played a part, too.
It still looks slightly stiff today, but it's a lot better than.. that.
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>>77675725
is there really anything more 90s than obari and kotobuki
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>>77674933
it's much easier to turn off your brain to, thus, meaning it is dumber.

are you trying to be dense?
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>>77672255
"noodle arms" means no elbows and no wrists, you dumb whore.
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>>77676291
We're talking about an art style. You don't turn off your brain to an art style. You look at it. Jesus, how much glue did you snuff?
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>>77674237
>70s
nice
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>>77676592
everything I said still applies. cartoons nowadays are mostly as boring and bland as it gets when to artstyles it comes to, and the main aesthetic a show possesses greatly influences its own feel and weight as much as its style of animation.

go ahead and tell me you're able to go completely unphased watching ATLA/LOK and not even notice the world of difference it has in contrast to, say, Clarence.
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That 2010 style really only applies to AD and Clarence.

In fact, that mock up character specifically just Clarence.

90's mock up makes it feel like Dobson made this.
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>>77674237
Wasn't there a recently anime that straight up used the 60's style?
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>>77677002
You would have a point if the art style were all that mattered in a show. South Park looks like garbage but it constantly pulls out quality episodes. Art is just something to look at. It isn't substance. It can enhance a work, but it isn't the end all be all. Shit like this thread is stuff that retards like you use to justify your nostalgia right, Doug?
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>>77674237
>70's style
>not looking Yamato or Gundam-esque
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>>77663949
I actually think the art styles look varied enough in my opinion.

>>77674237
>70's
Oh baby, can we go back to that please?
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>>77677046
>literally says @happyharrytoons on the image
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>>77672178
>It falls so hard on the uncanny valley
You definitely don't know what that term means.
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>>77662783
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>>77677183
Sorry I didn't base my arguments off rules that apriori determine I qualify as a 'nostalgia fag' to you and as such this argument served no purpose other than ending up with you pulling out ad hominems out of fucking nowhere as last resort to justify the fact that modern cartoons do, in fact, look like hot shit.
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>>77678374
I seem to have struck a nerve.
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>>77663317
why is eris so sexual
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>>77678467
I would hand you a (you) but it'd be too late for that it seems
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>>77662163
I actually fucking loved this show as a kid
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>>77677104
Kaiba
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>>77663372
So 80' and 10' are the best ones

Because the ones from the bottom where shit in style and well, they where shit overall
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>>77669751
I get that you are rustled because a show has sjw shit but that doesn't mean that you need to be retarded anon
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>>77679328
What episode is the middle right panel from?
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>>77679410
Gem Glow
It's the first one anon
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>>77679328
>obligatory 'BC shot from the hilltop'
everytime

none of those shots look even remotely pleasing either imho, thanks for pushing forward the image limit I guess
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>>77667981
>I care about 9/11
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>>77679818
Well that would explain why I don't remember it, I haven't seen it in years.
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>>77662486
>he doesn't know what objectively means
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>>77663738
Yes.
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>>77675142
Nah, 80's and early 90's anime quality was the best, Evangelion just came and fagged it up, it's hugely responsible for the prevalence of so many garbage tropes.
Beta MC, condescending bitch, ice girl, kids saving the world and so on, although I enjoyed the show itself, I do not like the impact it had.
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>>77679854
>None of those shots look even remotely pleasing either imho

Well your honest opinion is shit and just driven because of the fact that "everyone else hates the show, I might as well do the same"

How can they not look pleasing? They are colorfull, well drawn and sure as hell look much more artsy than 80's or 90's cartoons not that it's necesary for them to be like that but it's a good touch for this show

>thanks for pushing forward the image limit
We are only at 41 images and this thread is almost dead

Congrats anon, you are the most retarded poster in this thread
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>>77679328
it's been so long since its hiatus began I've forgotten how pretty SU's color palettes are
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>>77680347
They actually got the inspiration for the palettes from Yoshi's Island, and they work out freaking great
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I really hope the thread ended now so as to make it easier for me to sleep knowing someone made a SU fan write a literal essay over absolutely nothing worth anyone's time: a batch of cherrypicked screenshots with a predominance of pink and green, lovingly seasoned with 'I bet you never watched the show and are pretending to dislike it' projecting, and some shit about pushing forward the image limit despite not having even implied the thread was that active to begin with.
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>>77680030
>eva
>impact
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>>77680036
>
holy shit, shit the fuck up.
>>
How is it that he picks cartoons for each that are not at all similar in art style passed maybe steven/clarence then draws a picture that looks nothing like a culmination of those styles
what the fuck is he trying to say? hes blind or he can't draw?
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>>77662014
>emo and goth revival
>Oversexualization
>basic flash animation that switches to crazy the style of mid 00' anime boom

I know it came out in 2010 but this really was the perfect parody of the decade
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>>77662486
>Gravity falls
>not bland
>>
Why must so many retards act like they understand of art or animation? Adventure Time and Steven Universe's art are superior in any aspect to regular 80/09's shit that wasn't god tier (read Chuck Jones).
Stop being butthurt cause things are good.
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>>77669799
>>77671062
Great fucking show.
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>>77680589
You know you've won an argument when the other person says some salty shit like this
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>>77679287
Animaniacs, Darkwing Duck, and The Tick are the best things in that picture, are you insane?
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>>77681499
I agree with this motion, >>77680036 is a genuine autist
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>>77681499
>I'm a huge hypocrite pls no bully I win
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>>77674237
Fuck me, when was tenchi muyo made?
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>>77664264

That was the decade.
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>>77663372
Hannah-Barbera was fucking awful when it came to actually animating. Been binging Scooby-Doo recently and you could tell they just didn't give half a fuck.
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>>77663372
I wish that we could have just stuck with the 90s. The designs were fun, the animation was the best, and the actual shows were, too. 80s looks nice until you see the animation.
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>>77681746
And the 80s was actually a step up from the 70s, animation wise.

Thinking about it animation started taking its nosedive at around the mid 60s, which I guess was the moment studios realized that adults were basically over cartoons and kids didn't give a shit about production value.

That's my impression, though. I won't pretend I'm a historian or anything.
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>>77661997
sample size is too small. Come back when you have at least fifty cartoons from each era
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>>77680030
Hold the fuck up. Are you trying to tell me the quality of animation of Lodoss was actually good? Have you watched that shit? You're lucky if they did the key frames for some of the scenes.
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>>77661997
I never liked the Disney TV cartoons. Always hit an uncanny point to me.
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>>77680030
>condescending bitch, ice girl, kids saving the world and so on
those were already hugeley popular before eva
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>>77681870
The character designs were top fucking notch anyway.

I prefer shit animation that actually looks good to smoothly animated shitty drawings.

Not who you're replying to, but that's my two cents.
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>>77681633

1992.
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>>77661997

The 90's one reminds me of Johnny Test, which I'm guessing isn't the intended effect of that image.
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>>77677248
Doesn't even try to look like Rintaro's women either.

Christ I loved Rintaro's women.
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>>77681780
>And the 80s was actually a step up from the 70s, animation wise.
Oh, no, certainly. I'm just saying there is a lot of praise for the look of the 80s in this thread, and a lot of people shitting on the 90s for being wackier in design. I can only assume most of them haven't ever seen any of the cartoons in those pictures.
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>>77661997
Why we dont look it from a different angle......

the females!
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>>77682165
For some it's also a preference to art quality over animation quality.
Having been born in 89 I grew up with 80s and 90s cartoons, and while the 90s animation was smoother, I always thought the 80s cartoons looked better overall.
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>>77682017
Get your eyes checked. Johnny Test didn't have near the level of expression and deformation as that image has, because Johnny Test is badly animated in Flash instead of hand-drawn.
I dare you to find even one screenshot from Johnny Test that resembles that image.
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>>77661997
>90s
>five fingers

Nope.
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>>77662678
This is a stupid analysis. I'm not sure why you genuinely believe either art-style is more appealing to dumb people than the other.
>>
At some point in every creative art most content creators stop using new tools to make better art, and instead focus on making it faster and cheaper.
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>>77678374
I know you're probably not here, but I agree. Animation in the standard cartoon has been watered down to easily drawn doodles originally just seen in webcomics and in the margins of school textbooks.
This says little for the quality of the writing, but if a cartoon isn't pleasing to look at then at the end of the day it's only done half its job.
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>>77667006
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>>77675142
Tiny Toons did more then Eva.
>>77678981
That show's art style was based on My Life As A Teenage Robot.
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>>77683727
>the same guy who did Cobra did Frosty

Holy shit. I always thought Frosty looked vaguely Japanese, but I never knew Dezaki was the reason why.
>>
>>77661997
>>77661997
I was hoping pic related would become the new norm but guess I'll keep on dreaming

>CGI becomes widely accessible
>only select artists actually use its full range with incredible stylized designs
>Gendy still not getting his projects
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>>77683775
That is true, Dezaki was still at Mushi at the time.
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>>77683727
You wouldn't happen to have the side by side comparison of DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho would you? I can't find it anywhere
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>>77683806
Sadly no.
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>>77683727
>even when I wasn't watching anime, I was watching anime

Dear fuck, I never had a chance.
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>>77683794
>Gendy still not getting his projects
>his career ended because he didn't sell enough toys for CN

Well, at least we got a cute goth out of the deal.
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>>77683822
I know.
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>>77682172
Go on.
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>>77681450
>things are good
top lel
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>>77681450
>>77683942

Look at that. You got a (You). Took you long enough.
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>>77681450
>>77683942
>>77683958
topper lel m8 keep it up
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I probably liked 40's American animation the best. Private Snafu, Popeye (early Famous Studios), and Elmer Fudd are some of my favorite animated humans.

If someone saw The Brave Little Toaster (1987) at any time now or in the future without knowing when it was made, what do you think they'd guess? The music and visuals are pre-Pixar gold, timeless as can be (grand, orchestral), with only the "Cutting Edge" song toward the film's end dropping many hints about "current" stuff. It sort of looks like the more experimental and stylized animation from the 60's, but it's way too fluid/shaded. And the way it moves sort of looks like higher-budget 90's work, but rounder, softer, and not rebellious or rough at all. Where does this film even fall, stylistically?
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>>77674237
Why did the nose disappear from anime girls?
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>>77683727
Are all of these guys actually citizens of Japan, or are some of them just Americans with Japanese heritage?
>>
where's the original tweet
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>>77684076
Smaller noses are perceived as being cuter. The smallest you can get with the nose still existing is a dot.
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>>77684101
Give it time. By 2020 anime girls are gonna go full Final Fantasy Tactics.
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>>77684023
The only approximation I know is if Pixar decided to stick with traditional animation. Only way I can explain the style.
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>>77684115
>By 2020 anime girls are gonna go full Final Fantasy Tactics.

I am okay with this
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>>77684279
Me too
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>>77684279
>shadow of a nose
Disgusting.
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>>77684320
hear hear!
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>>77684089
No.
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>>77684239
That's all I could think of, too. It looks like a living, breathing vision of Pixar's 2D concept art. Not quite UPA levels of "Picasso", but sort of a re-imagining of the style, that keeps the good stuff UPA left out, like some facial wrinkles and details around the eyes/mouths, but only as much as is needed for the character to look "just right." The old Pixar sketches have a sort of warm and classic feeling, between very detailed old cartoons, and the sometimes sterile, modern work in the 50's and 60's. The old Pixar style is almost timeless, now that I look closely.
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>>77684465
Really makes you wonder how different Pixar would be if they stuck with traditional. I'd imagine they'd be just as gripping.
>>
I honestly find the 2010s style much more appealing than the others
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>>77668119
>I was 6 on 9/11

Thanks for making me feel old.
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>>77680426
>inspiration for the palettes from Yoshi's Island

That hit me right in the feels.
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>>77681982
>Mysterious servile magical girl with few emotions

Got a lot worse after Eva, desu.
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>>77668119
>there are people who'll never know a time in which airport security didn't really give a fuck, politicians had to find excuses other than terrorism to erode people's rights and nobody even knew what a Muslim was
I don't honestly know if you're better or worse off. That time between the fall of the Soviet Union and 9/11 was a special time, when people actually thought things might be getting better. Now we just expect things to be shit or get worse.
>>
I truly don't get why people like these 2010s cartoons. The style you think is cute makes me think the characters look ill.
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>>77686431
Because they're contrarians, they feel like a special snowflake for "liking" objectively worse shit like modern animation and art styles.
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>>77670240

why cant they color in the lines?
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>>77684101
>Smaller noses are perceived as being cuter. The smallest you can get with the nose still existing is a dot.

Or no nose at all, which is what happens with a lot of chibi characters.

Big head, big eyes, small mouth, no nose.
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>>77671395
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>>77686763
Or people just have different tastes in cartoons
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>>77686904
Yeah, shit taste which is probably worse because it's actually genuine.
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>>77668555
I'm pretty sure that Gravity Falls example is from the intro.

It's a fact that intros are usually way better animated and drawn than the show itself.
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>>77686966
Holy shit, people have different opinions on children's cartoons other than mine??
SHIT TASTE XDD
>>
>>77680781
I thought it was the japs response to hi hi puffy and yumi show.
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>>77686129

Same. That game was and is fucking beautiful. SNES has some of the games that have aged the best (Yoshi's Island, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Super Metroid, and Mario RPG being some of my favorites.)
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>>77686793

>with the nose still existing
>no nose at all

Nigga, what?
>>
>>77687312
lmao dude calm down ffs :^)
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>>77687392
Shit taste confirmed
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>>77661997
Digital animation is just becoming the standard. Give it time and it will be developed to a finer level.
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>>77687397
lol fuck off ward
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>>77663716
McCracken and Tartakovsky were an inseparable duo in the 90's. They were both art directors, storyboard artists, and writers for eachothers' shows.

Dexter's lab is as much McCracken's show as it is Tartakovsky's; the same can be said for The Powerpuff Girls
>>
Most cartoons today are just better than what we had in the 90's and late 80's. They have more fluid and consistent animation, actual story arcs and character development, are allowed to go dark and be more serious when the situation calls for it.
>>
>>77687612
Incorrect taste
No positive opinions towards modern cartoons allowed in this thread
>>
>>77687691
lol fuck off ward
>>
>>77677104
Osumatsu-san
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>>77686763
I think you are confusing the term contrarian.
>>
>>77674237
60 and 70 are superior... What happened?
>>
>>77687122
It's actually from an ending credits sequence to one episode. Pretty sure the last or second to last episode of the first season.
>>
>>77687818
>Osumatsu-san
HAI MISTER FLAG
>>
>>77679898
it means my opinion is right, faggot
>>
>>77688589
I really hope you're shitposting
>>
>>77688629
nigger, a rough 50% of people ITT are shitposters

did you seriously not notice the 'SU doesn't look that bad!' shitter above
>>
>>77689040
that anon may have put his point like shit but regardless I don't understand how anons regard SU as ugly.

It's no visual spectacle but it's certainly not ugly. I guess the character designs are odd but the backgrounds are fine
>>
>>77684373
No, they're not all Japanese citizens?
Or no, none of them are Americans?
>>
>>77683794
Tron Uprising is one of the few CGI animations I can say truly takes advantage of the medium. It's a crime it ended when it did.
>>
>>77674237
Yoooooooooooooooooh!
>>
>>77677046
>That 2010 style really only applies to AD and Clarence.
And everything else on CN.
>>
>>77686129
>That hit me right in the feels.

Proof that SU fans belong in the >>>/trash/
>>
>>77682005
>I prefer shit animation that actually looks good
you are aware this statement contradicts itself
>>
>>77684353
man oban star racer is an underrated treasure, and was what got me interested in french animation.

Through Oban, you start seeing a lot of their design aesthetics in other french cartoons, like code lyoko or wakfu. It's interesting how that works.
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>>77687122
It's not actually. GF backgrounds are just gorgeous.
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>>77661997
Aside from Gravity Falls everything from 2010's looks like garbage.
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>>77694870
That was one of the most important scenes and it was all about the background it's obvious that that one is going to be better than the rest of them
>>
>>77696135
It must be hard having this much shit taste
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The way people talk about modern cartoons, you'd think it wasn't just some new shows.

You'd think the cartoons that came previous represented some archaic stratified order, and the new shows are a revolution bringing about a new age of... something.

Now why would that be the case?
>>
This thread is fucking awful
>>
>>77696135

Phineas and ferb is good though. The art may not be amazing, but the show is fucking great. And bowling for soup always makes for a kick ass intro song.
>>
>>77661997
modern cartoon babbies BTFO

thank you blessed harry
>>
>>77696905
Epic wreckdddd B)
>>
>>77696905
>He drew the 2010 one different to the 1990 one
>modern cartoon babbies BTFO!
>>
>>77663372
UNF, dat 1980's qtaf shota

The 80's really did spawn the most awesome things. Myself included.
>>
>>77696793
Just like your taste, f a m.

>>77697033
>>77697381
Seems like he struck a nerve.
>>
>>77678952
Leave
>>
>>77698012
>he
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>>77698107
>has
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>>77698147
Jesus, let the stupid thread die. You retard.
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>>77666644
>awesome, like the 90s
The 90s was lame.
>>
>>77684023
Cutting Edge only becomes better as the movie gets older.
>>
>>77698236
Come on you know the words. Here I'll help ya.

>no

Now sing along.
>>
>>77683727
>essential
a lot of it is just shit, and "this is thought of as western but its actually jap lololo i trick u" stuff
>>
>>77698012
You're only proving my point, brah
>>
>>77694870
explain what's gorgeous about this because it's no any better than what you see in shitty canadian cartoons.
>>
>>77699214
Shit taste XD
>>
>>77699248
>>77699214
Shit posting XD
>>
>>77699248
>>77699921
>getting hard over bloom effects

Nigger please, it wasn't even animated well.
>>
>>77686303
Shit started hitting the fan in 2000, when the dot com bubble burst, and $80k jobs became $20k jobs. Gen Xers took it right in the balls.
>>
>>77662163

The idea of this honestly wasn't that bad. I mean Duck dodgers was just Daffy Duck in SPACE, but that shit was fly as hell. The just didn't do a good job of executing this.
>>
>>77698249
Wha
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>>77684279
>>77684101
>>77684076
>>77674237
Look! No nose! No nose!
>>
>>77691735
*hit two pieces of wood together
>>
>>77675142
I actually love this show.
>>
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Nothing lasts forever.
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>>77701102
How many shows have animated backgrounds, though? More than light effects and stuff like that, I mean.
>>77696642
>implying
Pic related. Some of these were used for a couple of seconds at most.
Gravity Falls background's not only can stand on it's own feet, but when compared to the mayority of animated shows right now they look amazing.
>>
>>77701292
>I mean Duck dodgers was just Daffy Duck in SPACE
It's based off the Duck Dodgers shorts.

A Looney Tunes series in the vein of SuperWabbit could be good
>>
>>77687345
I thought it was inspired by Drawn Together.
>>
I made one version long ago
>>
>>77704347
Gravity Falls is damn beautiful.
>>
>>77674237
60s style was cutest
>>
>>77701626
The mustached ninja's name is Dan.
>>
>>77661997
both are cringe worthy
>>
>>77707115
Oh look a shitty google image of a moon surrounded by flat trees with awful inconsistent linewight and a lackluster use of the sponge and drip brush
>>
>>77671900
>>77699214
>>77686791
>>77710550
You're shit at critiquing art, stop trying :^)
>>
>>77686791
101 Dalmatians inspired.
>>
>>77664799
It really was well animated, shame the actual show was awful.
>>
>>77661997
They're both awful.
>>
>>77705729
Looks good enough
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