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Old thread: >>77575998

>Post ideas, art, comics you've done
>Share your website/portfolio
>Ask for critique, information, or advice on writing or drawing
>Do some fanart for someone if you feel so inclined.
>Do some exercises. It'll be fun
>Practice Practice Practice
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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Let’s start of the list with a useful guide for PANEL LAYOUT:
http://innerspace.notonigon.com/?p=8

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
PEOPLE: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.

discordia chatroom link: https://discord.gg/0ckxsOeUFTo3h7m4

Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo

Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf

http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf

http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf


Paper Wings

http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/

https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

Comic Script: Plot to Outline

http://rocketbot.com/tutorials/626/writing-a-comic-script-from-plot-to-outline-to-final-draft
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>Trying to figure out a simple cool sentence for a promotional art of my comic book.
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>>77659072
more context? we could help
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>>77659072
type "more than 95% of webcomics are total garbage, so mine probably is too."
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>>77659120

Go for it.
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>>77659163

"Jojo meets Charlie Brown."

And I know next nothing about your comic because you never post finished pages or a url.
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>>77659072
>>77659149
"96% of webcomics take inspiration from rap & anime. Read this if you're part of the 4% who don't."
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>>77659265

Oh right!

I should make a website or a tumblr!
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>>77659302

Or maybe dump it into this thread.
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So happy how these ads are doing. One of my side ads is fetching over $1 a day. Even if it drops all my ads should net at least $1 and it only goes up everyday. Not to mention the updates through this week should make some people come back for more and I don't have spend money out the ass ($10-$15 a day). I'm hoping I can drop down to about $5 a day and slowly get that much money back and maybe even turn a profit after some time. And then there's the growing money I'm getting from being a Hub affiliate (20 cents a day and growing).

Feels good man.
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You all doing your best makes me want to do my best as well.
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>>77660306
How do I know everyone isn't sandbagging?
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>>77658654
hey i have a request could any anon remind me of the ame of a webcomic i forgot. its about a hero of a fantasy/ japanese world that becomes a otaku and is trying to be killed by the daughter of the demon king he killed
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>>77660335
nvm guys i found it
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i dont know what that term is but all i do is perpetually develop my concepts and ideas so they reach intense levels of depth.
Stacks of scrawls and scribbles attest to a plan always worked, never pitched.
Comics shall be produced by anon and into anon they shall descend.
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>>77660936

Weisman effect. Or you're just an idea guy.
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Time to throw in the towel for me. Been slaving on my webcomic or over a year and barely have any readers, the dream of making a living of it is dead. I learned stuff, but it's time to move on.
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>>77661118

What's your comic? Maybe I can help?
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>>77661118
What's the comic, bro?

I've been working on mine for a year; very small readership, but I just do this as a hobby so I don't particularly mind
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Sexyverse guy here. My site has been getting 1-2k visitors a day. If you have an NSFW comic and you want some of the attention let me know. Throw up an email and some samples of your work and I will get back to you.

Also bump.
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Posting my latest comic in case anybody missed it. Thoughts?
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>>77661430

I personally don't like the cheesiness of her family but everything else is great.
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>>77658654
>→ →
We've got to fix that extra arrow for next time

>>77659653
The thing from start trek sems to e more alcubierrish than... I was going to say teseractish, but it looks like subspace would have less than 3 dimensions (maybe none at all, which'd explain why matter can't be sent through) hence the "subspace" (like "subhuman", but not so denigrant)

You know, I'd kinda like to hear some more hindsight on how you came up with the concept
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>>77661118
What's your webcomic so we can all get an idea?
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>>77654094
it also refers to some kinky bdsm hypnosis shit
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>>77661430
I'm searching for a spot to put some emotional hooks. Maybe it happens later. Right now I'm entrenched in a lot of action I don't fully understand.
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>>77661118
gosh, a year!
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>>77661547
i see only one arrow
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>>77661118
You don't really need to send the link to your comic, but how many pages did it have, and what type of comic was it?
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>>77664407
weird
are you on mobile?
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>>77663618
The first issue is there to introduce the family and give the reader an idea of what Miss Melee is capable of, as well as showcase the high-caliber action our comic is capable of. Issue 2 and 3 in particular will delve more into the inter-character dynamics, and those will provide the emotional hook.

I'm actually a big proponent of a work being able to hook me right away, so don't think I'm taking your comment lightly or ignoring it. I give comics one issue to impress me, and I give TV shows one episode to impress me, and if they can't do something to get me hooked in that time I don't bother with them, so I can absolutely see where you're coming from on your comments about it lacking emotional hooks, although I feel the action itself is the hook, at least at this stage where the reader doesn't know a whole lot about the characters.

I would hope the action is easy to understand in of itself as one of the primary strengths of this comic is the quality of the action, at least that's our intention.
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>>77661430
The crowd of people in panel 6 look really bad. They're blatantly copy pasted and clash with the tents. If you refuse to draw out a crowd then you should have gone for a narrower camera angle.
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>>77667174
I think it's pretty obvious they just used a customized brush or something to add people in. Very lazy indeed.
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>>77667174
Noted.
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>>77664388
haha i know right
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>>77666817
>I give comics one issue to impress me, and I give TV shows one episode to impress me, and if they can't do something to get me hooked in that time I don't bother with them,
This is why I get so nervous discussing my own wares with other creators.

We are a very different blood type than the idea enjoyers/consumers.

We're not all that indicative of the challenges we'll be facing.
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>>77667647
I mean, everybody is different and people have different thresholds for that type of thing. The best you can hope to do is put out a product that you personally are happy with and if you're lucky there are a lot of other people who will be happy with it too.
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>>77666817
>>77667647
>>77667753
A whole issue? I guarantee when it comes to web comics most people go only a couple pages in before passing judgement. Myself included. If the author knows what they're doing then it's good from the get go. First impressions are absolutely everything, especially when there's so much garbage on the internet.
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>>77667809
Every sentence I read of this post became wrong-er than the last one. You are no older than 21. I can tell.

If I cared strongly enough I would advise everyone to ignore your advice. But I do not.

Although I guess I did type that out. And then post this.
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>>77667809
I was referring to print comics, not webcomics. With webcomics obviously it's a whole different ball game given how they're consumed differently than printed comics. I really haven't read enough webcomics myself to have a specific threshold for sticking with it or abandoning it, with webcomics I've always played it by feel.

>If the author knows what they're doing then it's good from the get go
I really hope I know what I'm doing, and it feels to me like I know what I'm doing, I mean I've planned things out and I've analyzed and re-analyzed my scripts and plans, but that's not my call to make. My expectations for my comic's readership are very low, especially this early in the game, and so far from looking at my website stats my approximate readership has exceeded my expectations, but I could always screw things up and kill my comic so I have to be ever vigilant.
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>>77667809
>If the author knows what they're doing then it's good from the get go.
Not every story is engaging immediately.

I didn't care much for the first parts of Phantom Blood until I realized the sheer scope of the story, forcing me to give the rest of the arc a chance.

There's too many exceptions in your argument for there to be a rule at all.
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I am going to show my five pages
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>>77668041

And that pretty much it.
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>>77667928
>>77667970
"Good from the get go" does not mean an action packed super stunning shebang hook. There are good establishing shots and there are bad establishing shots. There are good action sequences and there are bad action sequences. Most webcomic authors just plow forward and don't look back. Too few look at their comic as one complete book, but as a ramble of pages. Remember, a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

--That chain being readership and garnering an audience mind you, not strictly the level of quality, but the two are generally close.
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>>77666205
hellll no
we must be using different extensions
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>>77667174
i had no idea those were supposed to be people.
i'm all for being lazy with crowds but i at least make them solid blobs
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>>77667970
>I didn't care much for the first parts of Phantom Blood until I realized the sheer scope of the story, forcing me to give the rest of the arc a chance.
which is why word of mouth is so important
let's face it, nobody looked at undertale and went 'lol sure i'll play another RPGmaker game with static image enemy fights and no player combat animation or item inventory graphics'
they heard from friends how deep and amazing it was
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>>77669258
i heard blah blah blah and saw a darling little deer house
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>>77669382
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>>77669404
london
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>>77669258
i get you, but at the same time i can think of lots of comics that started off shaky and later found their footing (visually, joke-wise, writing, etc) - paranatural (though the pacing got worse as the art improved) and whomp! come to mind.

anyway, i also hope this is true because by the time i'm done with my comic the last pages will look different than those at the beginning - but redrawing pages is a horrible, horrible trap!
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>>77669507
whitetailed deer in england? i think not
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>>77669574
That's why you plan the whole thing out. After that, there's nothing saying you have to fill in pages linearly from prologue to epilogue-- you could do them in reverse order (final page to first page) or in a random order (for less pronounced quality shifts), just keep designs, color choices, etc fairly consistent.
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>>77669718
yeah true, i wrote this straight ahead with no pre-planning until about halfway through... but that doesn't account necessarily for art that's gonna improve/change. i'm worried my print version will be a trainwreck because of all the variations. oh well!
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>>77669290
>crowd of people
I missed it too.
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>>77667647
>This is why I get so nervous discussing my own wares with other creators.
>We are a very different blood type than the idea enjoyers/consumers.
>We're not all that indicative of the challenges we'll be facing.

Eh, I don't think most people are like that.
At the very least for me, I can't remember a SINGLE series I watched/read in the last 2 years that got me hooked on the first episode/issue besides...

If anything, it usually give it like 5-6 issues/episodes before passing judgement
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>>77670319
>oh dear i've spilled my grape drink on your beautiful white cloak
>no no it looks good that way
>but it's all sticky!
>it'll look fine when it's scanned dearie
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>>77669911
You can mitigate it by designing everything beforehand and establishing some... conventions for the style of the comic.
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>>77670709
This this this this. I can't even begin to tell you how many comics went to shit when the author decided to start changing the genre or the overall feel.
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>>77660957
i'm an idea guy, yeah! always doing research and whatnots... but that weisman effect thing seems like an accurate shot at my failures to produce.
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>>77660936
>>77670793
I had a similar problem for many years as I developed as a comics writer. I think for me it was just so much frustration over not finishing what I started, I was ready to commit to something that I liked and saw long-term potential in, and I did so.
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>>77670756

Oh Spinnerette....
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>>77671270
Spinnerette was never good, come on man.
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>>77670756
and yet, when the opposite happens, we act like it's normal
because the opposite USUALLY happens. but sometimes, man.. the art just gets out of control over time. fucking atomic robo..
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>>77670793

Weisman is also notorious for his high amount of planning and intricate character and plot details. He even had all of his characters' sex lives fully fleshed out.
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>>77671279
it started out fantastic
like, zukahnaut fantastic
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>>77671279

It was a stupid cheesecake comic that did its intended job until the writer wanted drama and angst. And Chochi wasn't on it. Now where's my promised Minerva porn Chochi?!
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>>77670971
yeah ive been going at a specific idea for years, and since the beginning ive drifted from my early 'what if?' diversity-from-limitation scenarios to giving internal personalities a chance to form. Sort of from Lemarkism to Darwinism...
A free-form approach has definitely improved the product and i feel like i am able to take the portions required for storytelling while simultaneously letting lands beyond take their own form without resetting the focus.
Now all i gotta do is start, as you've said, commit to the ideas with long-term potentials and get the assembly line rolling.
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>>77671311
>the art just gets out of control over time. fucking atomic robo..
What do you mean with gets out of control? I have not read AR
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>>77671664
It just gets looser and looser and more and more exaggerated until it's fucking ridiculous. Robo starts out looking like a believable thing Tesla might build, who could reasonably wear human clothes and walk around among people... then he gets more and more gorillalike and the holes in his arms deepen until they become fucking salad bowls that would scrape the skin off of anyone he brushed up next to. His face goes from amazingly expressive for something so simple, to a pair of all-encompassing eyes with a little framing in between
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>>77668066
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>>77671974
>Me and the captain
Should be "the captain and I." Also the word bubble in panel 3 doesn't seem like it's pointed at the right person. It looks like the guy is saying it.
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>>77671279
it would've been decent if they didn't turn it into the Social Justice League
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>>77672295

Finally! So, What do you feel about the story so far?

I thinking about removing the speech bubbles in the next chapter.
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>>77667991
>>77668007
>>77668021
>>77668041
>>77668066
>>77671974

So for starters you started at page 7. The beginning is very important and it'd be best to start with that. Then there's the lineart. It's rough and scratchy and you really really really should try something other than mspaint and a mouse to do them. Next there's all the grammar errors and awkward dialogue. At the very least get someone to edit and work on the dialogue.

Your style is pretty good but the lineart is a constant reminder that you have been given a specific criticism multiple times and have not fixed it. You said you were practicing on gimp and I have told you that you can use anchors and paths without needing a tablet. Once you get that mastered you can produce clean lines and improve your comic drastically.
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>>77674119
>Next there's all the grammar errors and awkward dialogue. At the very least get someone to edit and work on the dialogue.
English is not his first language and various people have been helping him with it in previous threads but it really is something he needs to buckle down and improve himself.
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>>77674119
Trying to make clean lines really make my comics unnatural and always make my comic look more ugly.
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>>77674301

And yet he keeps denying it and gets mad about it.

>>77674495

Pls I did one of your panels with anchors in 10 minutes and it looked nice and clean. You need to apply yourself and keep at it.

I'm just warning you that you are getting to Dewd levels here. When someone is given criticism, doesn't listen, and keeps asking for criticism, everybody else will just ignore them. You don't want to be like that. Look how long until someone actually said something and how many posts were made after you put your comic up.
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>>77674693
Dewd actually has significant, noticeable improvement from when he was starting out though. A more apt comparison would be to you-know-who.
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>>77674693

I thinking about making a silent comic.

Little words, More art.
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Hey, next page is done, it's still spoilers, so you know, read at your own risk.

But the page i post here is close to the one on the site because I'm running out of buffer and I'm in dire need of some guest comics before december 1st.
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>>77674793

No Dewd is a good comparison. He Who Shall Not Be Named is below shit tier. Dewd's problem is the same and his improvement has been slow and not amounting to much. I remember a year or two ago I kept telling him to change his font because most of it was unreadable. I kept saying it time and time again and he FINALLY did it.

Then there's the various other things that have been brought up and he doesn't listen to the point where the others in these threads also ignored him.

This is not an environment for those that lack that need to improve and it shows in how the other anons react.
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>>77674793
everybody keeps saying this, but i just don't see it. dewd can't draw well consistently... like his sense of color has definitely improved, but his writing and drawing hasn't very much. i know this is "harsh", but it's just not very good. i definitely see dewd being good in the future because he obviously works pretty consistently... it's just a matter of when he decides to study seriously.
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>>77675002
>Ask about my story.
>People started talking about dewd again.

Goddamn it.
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>>77675329
everybody's already told you what you need to know. over and over. take it, work with it, and come back. maybe do some drawing from life, or looking at some art outside of what you're normally interested in - try to find a different way to come at it.
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>>77675329

Would you rather we just ignore you? That is likely going to happen at this rate. You got potential but you're being stubborn.
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>>77675448

Not talking about art.

I am talking about story. Did you read me right?
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>>77675448
The problem with one of the main things we're telling him to do (work on English) is it's something that takes years and he doesn't want to put that much time in. He SHOULD put that much time in, but he clearly doesn't want to.
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>>77675448
or you could just ignore him, that's what i'm doing
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>>77675714

Wait, I didn't mean become like bones.

This anon told me to show my work. So, I did. (>>77659265)
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>>77675624
i thought english was his first language and it pissed him off when people said he wasn't? am i mistaken?

>>77675590
i hadn't, sorry. though the art in a comic is a large part of how a story is "read." it's hard to follow because of the way it is written. it seems like the time skips between pages are too big - like all the most interesting stuff is related to us through the narrator or spoken by a character. you tell more than you show. since you have trouble writing it out, you will have to visually illustrate what's going on so readers can follow. i think the premise is interesting, and the designs are cute... it needs to be more cohesive.
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>>77675159
What's wrong with the story/ writing? Is it the grammar, or the whole thing in general?
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>>77675590

You're kidding, right? You can't even listen to people properly and you want to ignore them and wait until you hear something you like?

You might as well give up if fixing your problems is impossible for you. Your story is garbage because nobody knows what's going on and your characters talk like someone talk a foreign language and ran through a translator a few times before having it spew out in English.

Is that enough for you? You're shit. And it's not because of your comic but because of you. You have flaws and you won't fix them and you act like an ass because of it.
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>>77675946
nah dude it's cool, i still like ya. and once in a while i talk to ya. i gave you some useful advice before, you took a little of it.. but for the most part it's clear you have different goals and you're not really into taking the kind of advice i give. no hard feelings, i'm just going to ignore it when you keep asking
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>>77676083

Wooooh

I didn't mean to make this kind of argument. This what it feel to be comic-book artist?

This is what it feel like to be like scribbie?
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>>77675984
just... the whole thing in general. i figure we're just witnessing your artistic adolescence - your comic is really incoherent and rushed, and as a result reminds me of the sort of stuff my friends and i made in middle school for ourselves.

but anyway - the dialogue is awkward, the crude jokes fall flat, the figures look implausibly and unpleasantly deformed. you've also mentioned this is a hobby for you, so you'd just fix that stuff when it finally (if it ever) bothered you enough to do so.
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>>77676300
just just just just just
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>>77676300
Ok, your going to have to be specific with how my jokes fall flat and how they're crude and how the dialouge is awkward.

And what figures? The figures of speech?
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>>77676285
well then i'll keep trying to help.. when i feel like i have anything to say (having read these pages, i don't. i don't have any real feel for the story yet. i don't even know what it's about, feel free to summarize)
and next time youre getting emotional and i ask you to calm down because we're all friends here, all on your side, try to do it.
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>>77675984

For me, I don't even know what's going on most of the time. It's pretty much everywhere and seems to lack any coherence. I think part of the reason is that you have a lot of stuff going on and your cast is huge. And the art is pretty sloppy but I see improvements.
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>>77676300
the crude jokes work for me! the rest of that is pretty dead on criticism though
>>77676441
i think he's talking about how you rush through the construction process and don't draw very carefully. you and i both know it's because you don't have the patience, it's cool. you are working on that.
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>>77676015
>You're kidding, right? You can't even listen to people properly and you want to ignore them and wait until you hear something you like?

Finally, You just want to know this for a long time. Thank you for taking your time into reading my comics.

I going improve it in my next chapter. But, I am working on the prequel comics and proofreading my comic pages.
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>>77676608
and we can always help proofread
so hey can you give us the basic skinny on what it's about? A lot of people in these threads do nothing else besides describe their premise, so feel free
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>>77676608
>You

I mean "I". Sorry, I hate being under-pressure.

I will remove myself in the next two threads ahead.
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>>77676531
Well, it's one of those things where you pretty much gotta read it the whole way through.
Also, I've cut down on a lot of the characters and I've just cut it down to the main six and Neptunia for the most part.

And yes, I know my art isn't the best and all that, I've heard that several times before, I was just talking about the writing.
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>>77676015
>implying anybody should listen to everybody

Half the trick is knowing when to ignore advice. A lot of comments floating around these threads are bullshit.
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Another Monday, another page of Deviants.

I might as well resurrect the /aco/ thread, too.
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>>77676676
this is a great example of your emotional overreactions, my good man. not judgin' you, just something to keep an eye on. Maybe spend your time off in introspection and getting plenty of rest
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>>77676300
Man, is this a thread for juvenile embarrassment? Cause I've got plenty I think!

Comic Sans
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>>77676758
with this much content, by all means
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>>77676740

The problem here isn't who to listen to for criticism but the problem of listening to nobody's criticism.

Yes there is always that constant lookout for bad advice but when you have a few people saying the same thing over and over again, it's best to listen.

The mindset is usually: They don't know, I know what I'm doing.

Every time someone points out something it's an opportunity to get better or to at least hear what others have to say.

You think getting negative feedback is bad? Getting nothing is worse. I've been there plenty of times. I'll take all forms of shit over being ignored.
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>>77676794

Thanks man, I am thinking about taking a break.

Drawing a something sexy.
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>>77676812
>mfw trying my whole life to be this good. no seriously i have an anime story saved up for when i'm a little better than this
>only slightly better in a few ways but could still never do a lot of this, on my best day.
>and i like comic sans dammit
>and you're embarrassed by it
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>>77676876

I am very grateful that You took your time and reading my terrible comics.

I am VERY sorry!
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>>77676876
but these people also ask for input.. a lot. and they aren't just fishing for praise, they're waiting to hear something, they're not sure what. But they're pretty sure it's not what they're getting.
and yeah they do keep saying the same shit and posting the same shit... I think I've been in situations like this before, I can't divine the answer exactly. All I know is that if you just "just to shut them up" do what people tell you, take the same repetitive knee-jerk mainstream advice, do the practice... it never ever changes what they say. It's never enough
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>>77676959
whoa, shades of cheeseblade. I like it. I think this is abetter medium for you than the scratchy binary lines
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>>77677099

Most of it is simple criticism but it's often ignored. This thread is a lot more helpful than the Batman Drawthreads which are literally just people posting their art and not talking about others' work. People in this thread should be lucky there are those that will even reply to them.
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>>77677132

Oh, It isn't mine.

It is from a good friend.
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>>77677170
I can say with certainty that almost zero accusations of 'ignoring' are accurate.
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>>77677029
You serious? Man, I love my work, but I won't sugar coat it's awful, and I love it because I made it, nothing else.
There are a gazillion better fonts for comics, and you can find a lot of free ones too.

The only thing I can say, based on what you posted is - Do not wait until you think your art is good enough - Jump naked into the pool and make what you want.

If you're not considering going to art school, or taking any class or seminar on illustration in the near future, then get your work done, because there's plenty to learn from this experience, and you're wasting it by waiting for the chance to be better.
Man, the things I'm finding in my archive folder are beyond embarrassment. This is one of the *finest* things I've found there.
I'm working on what I posted last time, I'm working on weekdays and weekends for a month, so I won't be able to draw and paint as much as I'd like.
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>>77677482
i actually like this better than the stuff you showed when you first started posting in these threads, which I assume came later. I guess it's my animu goggles, but it looks great. I mean, I'm not exactly tugged in by the story whatever it may be, but the art. well drawn animu is my shit and will always be. Someday I'm going to make a retro masterpiece of 90s goodness, and if it doesn't look exactly like an old VHS tape screenshot when it's done, I won't be satisfied.
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>>77677616
The problem with full manga style, at least for me, is that it only works when you do action/adventure.
I made a sappy tearjerker, and while I like it, it felt kinda wrong, so I've been trying to expand my horizons with experimental stories and drawing styles like Judgement, and my current work.
I'm sure as hell I will do manga style again if I ever do something heavily packed with action. I sure miss kinetic lines lol

This is an oldie but goodie life lesson for any artist out there.
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>>77676812
>>77677482

Thing is that this is not bad and if that's your old work then you're comparing yourself to those that are struggling with their art now.

It is good to show that even good artists weren't always that way. But you also show awareness to storytelling and and have some style to go with it.

That's what the anons that need help in this thread have to realize. It's not just being able to draw better but writing as well and knowing about how to tell a story properly.
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>>77677991
Those two are from 10 years ago. But it's true I'm struggling, because I felt I was too comfy doing only action manga, and I wanted to change.

It's possible that people find more appealing my old work, I can't retort to that nor I want to.

I dunno, maybe I get used to the stuff I'm trying now, and I get not only to improve, but to add new stuff I wouldn't dream of trying 10 years ago.

I've been thinking the "strip" format I use to make my, well, strips, and go back to full page comics. Maybe once I finish this chapter.
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>>77677950
well i do like the way your style is a mashup of styles right now. I always mix my animu styles up.. which I justify because a lot of shows do that, you just don't see people talking about it as much. Not everyone in pokemon has the narrow eyes with the slit pupils after all
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>>77678264
and yeah dude the stuff you're doing now is better than the stuff you were doing 2(?) years ago, so you should be happy. You tried a new thing, it took you a while to get really good at it, and now you are.
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FROM THE ASHES

>>>/aco/216270
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I wonder if someday this will be a valid thing you can do in a videogame
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>dead thread

Stat time! So Deviants has just rocketed to 4k in a day. In fact, it's at 5,484 right now. This pic was from a couple hours ago.

Aaand someone just overbid me for the Between Failures spot. Too high for my blood and perhaps a good chance to see how I fare without that ad spot. I still have the Questionable Content square and that is now performing as well as the BF ad.
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>>77678562
>>77679840
I bet if I made a porn comic I'd have actual readers.

I had two views today.

It's pretty typical.
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>>77679865

What's your comic?
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>>77679840
Well, I guess i can report my stats.

500 views today, and 480 views yesterday, apparently it's starting to get pretty popular on reddit with the latest page getting 7 points.
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>>77679879
Res Nullius
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>>77679865
>>77679987
you do have a knack for cuteness and some emotions brewing. someday when your art skills are more improved i bet you could do some fantastic porns. really sweet stuff that makes you cry from your eyes AND your downstairs.
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>>77679987

Some xeno porn would be nice.
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>Looking for Group is now advertising on my website
>Elsewhere traffic for just 2 cents

Sohmer you cheap bastard come and get that American traffic.
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Maybe I should make a unrelated comic about random stuff.

A three panel comic.
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>>77680669
Hmmm... yes. More.
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Welp time to post hentai videos!
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>>77667809
It's fun seeing so many amateurs desperately trying to find a way not to acknowledge this.

It isn't just with webcomics that this is true. Every type of storytelling medium both wants and needs to get its hooks in the reader early. Anyone in this thread who thinks different is just a delusional amateur. It really is that simple.
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>>77679865
Mine's pretty low too lately, though it varies widely.

Last week I got 184 views but the week before I got 54, the weeks before that was around the same

Back when I was constently posting fanart on tumblr my comic would get more views because I guess people checked my profile when they saw art they liked, but as of late I just have NOT have the time to promote my comic in any way.

I don't particularly mind, desu, since I do this mainly for myself, but hey.
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>>77682915
whats za name

new rule: you can't complain about declining/lack of viewership without posting a damn link.
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>>77683075
>new rule: you can't complain about declining/lack of viewership without posting a damn link.
I like this rule.

Mostly as a deterrent to keep people from being depressing assholes.
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>>77683075
Fair enough, you've probably seen is since it's
http://www.greenknightcomic.com/

Though I'm not really complaining, I know why the viewership is low since I've done nothing to promote it in the last couple of month. I was gonna try tapastic; though I remember that simply periodically updating my tumblr with fanart helped keep the viewership up.
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im going to reboot my comic. i received a lot of feedback from here some time ago so i took that during my downtime to think a lot of it through.

>eight years have passed since the eight-year war. monarchies have fallen, and petty politics are now re-shaping the world.
>military vets kelly mullens and joseph lane have found a place in this new, rapidly-modernizing world as intelligence agents, working to find relevancy as soldiers once again through close protection, red teams shenanigans, and other high-speed, low drag hijinx.
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>>77684274
The thumbnail seemed more promising than the full image.

For two reasons alone.

There's too much uncanny valley detail in the nose, and to a lesser degree, the mouth.
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>>77684414
yeah, that's also something i'm trying to work on. i'm trying to learn what to simplify when narrowing things down to simple line work, which i think is a hard hurdle to overcome for lots of people getting into drawing comics or cartoons.

also i just get hung up on details because i like guns a lot, kek.
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>>77679865
That dude is spending some serious money to advertise with other comics that have really high readerships so don't feel too bad anon.

>>77680813
Why is he even advertising anymore at this point? For better or for worse, Sohmer is one of the "top" webcomic names now.

>>77684274
Yes yes but when will you start drawing some delicious 1980s tactical???
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>>77684890
the furthest back ive done is early 90's tacticool!
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>>77684890
>That dude is spending some serious money to advertise with other comics that have really high readerships so don't feel too bad anon.

Funny thing is I don't even make that much money. I just budget myself really well. That and I got a $500 Christmas bonus. In a month I should get one of my old jobs back and that'll put an extra $400 in pocket each month. I'll think about getting another comic or something.

>Why is he even advertising anymore at this point? For better or for worse, Sohmer is one of the "top" webcomic names now.

He's no longer that relevant. Besides, PW has this thing where you have the system automatically bid for you. So I'm guessing his just found my website because it's racking in views and found the cheapest spot to advertise.
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So in any case despite paying three artists, owning my own website, and waging an advertising campaign I thought I'd get back to drawing and do a 4-panel nsfw comic about a busty girl in space and gleefully banging anything. And she goes to a space academy. Or is captain of a spaceship. Something.
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>>77687695
This sounds like it could be good if it had an element of sincerity to it somewhere. And layered jokes.

Like Taxi. Or early Simpsons. (Both shared key members of creative teams)
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>>77687799

It'd be mostly a gag strip but the punchline usually involves nudity and sex.

>Space Orc Teacher: Welcome to Space Orc Rape Training Class where you get raped by space orcs because you inevitably will be raped by space orcs. Here you'll learn everything about how to mentally and physically prepare for when you get raped by space orcs.
>Girl: [raises hand] Is it true this class was just made so space orcs can rape young men and women?
>Space Orc Teacher: Looks like we got our first volunteer!
>Space Orc Teacher: Uhh... the best thing is to loosen your body... hngh... and not struggle... the last thing you want is to tighten up your body as a footlong roll of meat forces... ahh... itself into you and... y-you're not supposed to be enjoying this!
>Girl: Looks like I'm getting an "F" in more ways than one, woooooooh!

I expect most of the jokes to suck because gag strips are surprisingly difficult.
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>>77688186
--Why do you wanna make this again?
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>>77688347

Something to draw and write that doesn't demand too much of my time. I like drawing and writing and having something to do would be nice. I'm not expecting it to be a hit like the other comics but it's something I can at least do myself.
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>>77684414
i think theyre fine, the problem is the placement relative to the eyes. she's got a catherine tate thing going on
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>>77688186
i'm snickering pretty hard
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>>77688186

Might as well throw some more ideas out to keep this thread alive.

>Sex is seen more as casual activity and there are little taboos about it.
>Bisexuality is considered the norm but not focused on too much.
>"Layla" seems like a good name for a nymphomaniac.
>Even by space standards, Layla is considered a whore.
>If I can't think up a good punchline then I'll just end it on hardcore sex.
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You ever feel like no matter what you going to do.

You always going to suck it at it.
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>>77690729
Yes, until I stuck with it long enough to realize that thought was stupid by design.
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>>77690796

YOU ARE RIGHT ANON!

I KEEP ON TRYING UNTIL I GIT GUD! I will never stop trying until become a great web-comic artist and writer!
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>>77690977
>until become a great
Also stupid by design. Because 'great' varies in definition. And sometimes great requires greed.

Until you're happy. That's the goal.
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>>77691316
>happy is the goal

But the more pages I make the less happy I am
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>>77690729
Stop making these posts where you pretend to be a depressed webcomic creator.
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>>77691408

You are right!

I need to be stop being like Dobson and be a fucking man!
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>>77691361
Then you're making a comic in such a way that you have nothing in the future to look forward to.

Making this doubly true for the readers.

This is 'Doing It Wrong.'

Make prospects.
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>>77691408

To be honest a lot of artists and writers do deal with some form of depression. Sometimes it actually helps them be creative... while still eating away at them from the inside and giving them dark thoughts and tantalizing images of the sweet embrace of death and the end of suffering.

: )
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>>77658654
Howdy-ho, /co/.
Artist and I just realized we're about three and a half issues away from being done with our first story arc of the Sisters. Which is sort of amazing, given how long we had it in the can and how quickly progress is going on now. Half-way through "The Monster", followed up by "The Secrets" which I got started working on today. It's going to be a nasty ride to the end, which I think I've said before, but will certainly be more apparent in the next few weeks.

Violence abounds.

Feels good to have stuff accomplished.

Probably gonna storytime it all sometime early next month. Still need to get a proper website with better functionality (a cast page would be useful). But we're making strides. Gonna shill the site because I'm gonna grab a meal and won't be back if it is asked of me for at least an hour:

thesisters-comic.com

Might even have time enough to start reviewing stuff again; a happy combination of things turning out okay and not feeling jaded as fuck about the medium.

How're you doing? How's your project going? How is it holding up the closer you get it to a point of completion, in regards to things that helped inspire it and your own personal growth?
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>>77684274
>>77684601
You've been working on this for a couple years now, haven't you? I'm surprised you never took it to that final stage.
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>>77691503
>don't stop your webcomic, you've to keep going
>stop your webcomic, you need to quit

Make up your goddamn minds
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>>77692032

Very well. Make your comic even if you have no passion for it so that it is obvious you're phoning it in and your audience will lose interest much faster and you waste your time spinning wheels on a project you no longer care for.
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>>77692134

You know what?

Keep on making your webcomic until It become good.Then bad, then good.

Comics is like a rollcoaster of quality.
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>>77692032
No, make prospects within the comic you're already making.

But if there's absolutely no conceivable way to ever make this comic a thing of interest to you or anything else again, then yes. Wrap it up. And make something else, knowing more now than you knew then.
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shit you guys. furblscrop's apartment burned down
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>>77692770
Wait, who is that again?
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>>77679840
I have new stats!

The only thing of note in here is the "visits" column which is unique visitors per day. I'm pretty pleased with that performance, especially this early into my comic's life. The number for today seems weirdly low because my host updates the data at weird times so it doesn't reflect however many actual unique visitors I have as of right now in the day and it won't reflect how many actual unique visitors I will have for all of today when it's all said and done.
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>>77692801
bad adjectives guy
the thing with the kittycat guy with sunglasses and the weirdass humor, and where the art looks like shit but it's actually good and he sometimes does animations
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>>77693335
Aww...

How'd you find this out?
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>>77693413
his website
evidently he still has access to a computer to update that, at least
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Unrelated comic.

I trying to do something different in my life.
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>>77693807
Well, there are no English issues this time!
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I'm finally able to give this some time. I just need to add some final touches and text, and I'll be done with this damn page.
I need to make new ones because I'm running on fumes here.
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>>77694084
depending on what 'Finehess' means
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>>77694556

Damn it, I make the "n" look like a "h".

I can fix it.
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>>77694585
"Finehess" kinda sounds like something the blonde bum guy (sorry, can't remember his name right now) would say.
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>>77694556
>>77694585
I have really awful handwriting and my "n's" look like "h's" all the time so I didn't even notice that.
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>>77694658
It happens
but what is fineness supposed to mean? is it just the brand name
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>>77691992
yeah, i'm not too good at doing things on my own time, kek. that illustration was from another concept story i had for that character, actually!
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>>77696323
What's holding you back?
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>>77696358
day job, second job, relationship...actually no, i'm not going to rationalize being lazy with any of those. i'm just plain not good at managing my own time. its still a goal of mine to get a comic done, though.
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>>77696453
well shit dude, for the sake of all of us lonely virgins, put the relationship first
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>>77696589
I didn't and I sure paid the price.

>>77696323
This looks really nice. A little bit of work on the pose to remove some stiffness and you're more than good to go.
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I only have three days of school left, so now I can finish this comic... in the meantime have some lithograph + watercolor.
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>>77697302
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>>77697358
googly eyed trees are adorable
what is going on here and why do i want to see it through so badly
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bamp
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bomp
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>>77700960
nicely done dude
and the tiny sliver of spacenerd in me appreciates the need to change trajectory being the key factor. too often it's like ohnoes we're running low on fuel or need to maintain our speed and it's like.. in space you don't need fuel to maintain your speed...
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also here's the Rizon chat that I frequent a lot. Some other curators stop by every now and then but it's been pretty dead lately.

https://discordapp.com/channels/111912780377985024/111912780377985024
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>>77700960
hate to rag on art, but the ships left wing is almost running a tangent in the third panel, might wanna' watch that
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>>77701386
>hate to rag on art
Why?
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Fucking captcha I fucking hate you fucking piece--- ahem... anyway...

>>77694264

Looks good but I don't like that thick outline for some of the characters in the top panels.

>>77696323
>>77696453

Girls with guns are always a great thing. Although I have no idea what this story is about.

>>77697302
>>77697358

Looks pretty surreal. Interesting.

>>77700960

I don't know if a 4-panel structure is good for something like this. You'd want more flexibility and there's a lot of (pun not intended) empty space.
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Another update, another change in ads.
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a section of a WIP page! finally getting into the action of the arc.
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>>77701862
oh dang
hey wait a minute, you sketch with lines but your final product lacks them?
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>>77701921
you caught me
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>>77701958
well i'm just saying, THIS.. this looks a lot more engaging and interesting.. i almost didn't recognize it.
in any case you clearly have some talent so i'm keeping an eye on you.
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hey spoondoggles my brains is broken again, can someone give me a couple examples of like, little magic charms that some helpful low-level magical being might do? like particularly helpful ones. i'm drawing an utter blank. Usually when I think of magic it's in terms of attacks, and usually I don't dally in the 'little elf dealy that lives in your house and maybe helps out or maybe plays pranks depending how you treat it' area of mythology
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>>77702002
ah dang, does it really look that much better with lines? i might end up switching over in that case.
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>>77702046

What like cantrips and little levitation spells? Divining paths and invisibility?
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>>77702175
well let someone else chime in too. post your finished product for comparison. ain nobody should be taking advice from just-me
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>>77702185
>Cantrip
so that's what that means. yes!
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First page of chapter 14! and already shit is going down!
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I've never posted in one of these but here it goes

>in 1943 a chicano older sister/younger brother duo hitch hike from El Paso to San Diego to see their estranged older brother on leave. Along the way they team up with a sarcastic clearly student, an escaped concubine who pushes older sister's buttons, and an autistic man-child who speaks in third person and thinks he's from another planet. It has elements of southwestern psychedelia but also has very down to earth moment that are few and far between.

>A type A schoolgirl wants to become a superheroine in her upper middle class jersey suburb, so she enlist the help of Checkers, an AI free to move to whatever part of the Internet he pleases but takes no physical form. Think Barbra Gordon meets Freakazoid on Omegle.

I have stories planed for both of them but I need to work on my art. I appreciate any feedback.
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>>77702355
Whoops, forgot page.
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>>77702380

I have to say the lineart looks a little cleaner and less messy so congrats on that.
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>>77702376
*clergy student
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>>77702376
i had my eyebrows on standby til you mentioned the surrealism. this sounds good
man now i'm really missing Listening to 11.975mhz that comic was great
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>>77702380
oh damn and a half. it's never good when houses explode.
i still think frontview annabeth nose makes more sense as <= than [= but it's your call
also holy shit dem teefs
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>>77701601
thanks! i wrote a short synopsis in a previous post, but here's the gist of it:

>eight years have passed since the global war. monarchies have fallen, and petty politics are now re-shaping the world.
>military vets kelly mullens and joseph lane have found a place in this new, rapidly-modernizing world as intelligence agents, working to find relevancy as soldiers once again through close protection, red teams shenanigans, and other high-speed, low drag hijinx.

it's supposed to take place in a fictionalized ace combat strangereal/final fantasy tactics ivalice kind of setting, hence weird terms like the "global war" and such.

>>77696912
thanks. these were drawn some time ago but i will definitely do my best to make her "move" better.
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>>77702661
I would have kept it like that, but I just couldn't get it right other than the 3/4 view.

Also, I think the [= makes Annabeth look more obnoxious, which is what I'm going for, and a little bit less cute.

Also, yeah, annabeth doesn't have many teefs.
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>>77702807
true, it's def obnox.
well i was talking about the.. extra teeth going back. or are those supposed to just be in the back of the mouth like molars? because now I kinda see that, but for a second it looked like a shark's mouth or even a leech's
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>>77702872
Yeah, the inside of annabeth's mouth is what you getting a nice look at. All of those teeth aren't in the front.
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>>77702911
yeah but i somehow thought they were directly behind the main teeth, in rows, or almost lining the throat, not molar styles. I guess missing teeth will do that, sort of screws up seeing the jaw shape. Well anyway that works
also dammit I have a soft spot for Annabeth weirding out. That's the best kind of physical comedy.
I need to see that VIDEOGAAAAMES page again
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Do you guys draw your comics on an specific size or format?
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>>77702978
huh, i never noticed the.. math on those before.. that makes them weirdly fit together in different configurations but still be reassemblable for different print formats. though i guess i'm more used to the non-sunday strips

yeah I do two columns, with as many rows as I end up needing. Usually between three and five. My canvas is set up to comfortably handle about seven rows before I need to enlarge it. thank god for digitalness
originally I just went with 2x2. I've heard a lot of authors espouse it as the best most efficient way to do a gag strip, because it's compact and works vertically or horizontally.
generally though in this day and age you want to stick with vertical scrolling
and always feel free to break your format if need be. my columns never line up exactly, i don't want them to. I let one panel borrow from another all it needs. Only my OCD that still sees negative space as 'wasted' keeps me from not just doing a long vertical series of panels of various sizes and shapes with tons of space in between
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>>77702978
Consistency helps the reader become immersed in the story. You can mix it up and do gimmicky stuff but imo that's a tad overdone.
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>>77702974
Yeah, Annabeth is almost never happy, and when Annabeth is actually happy, he just doesn't know how to handle it and just weirds out.
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How can I prevent tumblr from accessing my webcomic? It is not written in English, yet somehow a tumbrlina finds my comic to message me about "groundbreaking" designs I have drawn (her words, not mine). She wants to know if she can translate my comic because I have stated previously that I will not. Is it appropriate to say deny her? I am fine with having a minimal amount of readers. I would rather have small readers than tumblr. My English is not the best, but even I can see the crazies on that website.
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>>77705116

Show your work.
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>>77705116
Yes, I agree: >>77705140

Could you people quit bein so fucking mysterious all the time. It's driving us crazy.
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>>77705201
>>77705140
>on an anonymous image board
>complaining about people being anonymous
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>>77705257

Then fuck off with your bullshit.
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>>77705116
Tell her she can do it unofficially, but that you won't recognize it or that she can't expect any sort of money or favors from it. Because the way you describe her sounds like she could be changing stuff and just generate drama. Let her build more of an audience for you but have the distance so if she fucks up you can be like "well it's her translation, i have no input."
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>>77705116

You sound like a faggot.
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Here's my webcomic, it's just sketched so far. The heroine is the great grand daughter of Heinrich Himmler, and it takes place at a private school in Germany.

Here's the full version: http://sta.sh/2z1c6ttt60w

>>77705116
I WANT tumblr to read my stuff.

>>77702978
Tend to go for the typical comic page look. Makes it easier to print, if I want to sell it sometime, and can generally be converted into most webcomic site formats relatively easy.
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>>77706203
Do you have a tumblr?
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>>77706230
I have several but always fail to get any followings, or hate there. I've got almost 10k subscribers on Tapastic, though,
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>>77704241

What is "GRU,BLE"?
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>>77705116

Please post or link, would love to see it!
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>>77704241
I want Annabeth to be a grill.
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>>77706203
>http://sta.sh/2z1c6ttt60w

It looks pretty good. The heroine is cute, but make sure her finished look is also memorable. The name "Urban Tales" is fucking terrible, though. It's bland, forgettable, and tells you nothing about the comic. It sounds like something about gangs, rap music and black people. Work on that. A lot of manga these days use statements or phrases as titles (She is a T-Rex, Sakamoto desu ga?, My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute etc). Maybe a title like that? Something like "My Girlfriend's Grandfather is Himmler?!" It immediately tells readers your comic's unique plot point, and will stick in their mind. Or, if in doubt, maybe just name the comic after your main character.
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>>77706855
The issue is I intend the series to be about all sorts of random stuff that happens in an Urban environment, from an inter city private school, to a bunch of hackers living at an abandoned train station. Urban Tales is the only title that was vague enough to go under all of them.
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>>77706873

Then I suggest changing the title to [name of the city] Tales. It's not a flashy name, but it's better than the super-generic "Urban Tales". Plus according to Google there's already a comic with that name.
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Finally managed to get a colour scheme going for this character.
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Mee wantie... Comix.
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>>77707610
>Comix
>only one "x"

Can't help you there, mane.
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>>77707644

Gggwwworst!
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>>77700960

>Lizard panties
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Hey guys. After a week in bed 'cause of the stupid seasonal flu I'm back on the comic, which I have decided to reboot (sort of) on Tapastic. This is the new address.

http://tapastic.com/sreedurra

I've uploaded a first batch of pages and I'll redraw a few things before uploading the rest and catch up to where I was, I really couldn't bear the quality of a few pages.

I'm keeping the art blog on Tumblr and I've cleaned up the history of posts on the previous comic.

I still don't like Tapastic's episode format, but oh well. At least it's a proper platform for webcomics. Is there any way to add imaged to an episode AND make so that they're treated as updates instead of under-the-radar edits?
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>>77708040
Could always do a "NEW PAGE//DATE" Episode, and just add the files to the previous pages Episode everytime you update. Not the best system, but it is doable. Had to do that on my comic.

You'll lose the comments/likes, but keep the pageview count for your total.
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>>77708479
Yeah this is the current idea. I guess I'll try to break things down by weekly updates as a compromise.
For now I'll have to catch up fast with where the comic was and get the second bunch of pages up.
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>>77701601
I've occasionally drifted into fewer or more panels as I need them. Four panel format's served me well so far though. Don't think I could handle unique layouts with every page.
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>>77706952
That's a nice colour scheme.

That's not a good design for a knife - don't have holes in stuff.
Better yet, give them a sword, or otherwise something with range. Also, you may want to have the weapon have the same colour scheme; a black handle with yellow trim (and maybe even a shiny black blade)

I'm assuming that's that's some sneaky beaky rogue-ish character. I'd give them something a bit more form-fitting than a big flappy heavy robe. That looks awkward to crouch in, or run. Try some big pants like pic.
The shoulder-things are a bit awkward, you should make them less bulky, so that they sit closer to the shoulders
Also, yellow trim on the gloves'd be nice.

try to learn how to draw feet at, say, a 3/4ths angle, rather than either 100% forward or 100% to the side

They have two right hands.

Are those supposed to be boobs? I don't think you'd be able to see the, uh, boob lines (dunno what it'd be called) under whatever armour that is.

I don't know what to say about the face other than it's pretty bad.
The lips are super huge and pronounced, and that's not really something you want on a ninja-thing. The emo-hair and eye tattoo are a bit cliche, and the overall anatomy ain't great. You may wanna drastically change how you do your faces. Just, like, from the ground-up.
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You know what guys? I started to figure out, I can't do paragraphs. I can't do long sentences without messing up on something.

So, I created a mini-series to help you understand the story with my simplest of words. (>>77693807) That was a testing ground.
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>>77706814
we all do, anon. we're gonna have to be patient.
>i will still play videogames with and accept licky
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>>77706203
snickering
>>77705116
tell her you appreciate the offer but you don't feel comfortable with that right now (you don't have to say it's because she's the tumblrkind who's going to make her own fucked up translation) dont worry about tumblr at large, just THOSE types
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>>77707938
oh shit i didnt even notice that. I would have assumed she went without.. can't be fun getting those over a tail, and can't be all that hygienic in general. though that might be differnet for something coldblooded. i wonder what they smell like
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>>77710156
or to be specific, holes are okay, but you don't want LONG holes like that, it would lose strength and be easy to bend.. but small holes are okay, they help the knife not stick in shit
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>>77711034
writing is tough, man. keep at it
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>decide to give one of the female characters a more realistic pixie haircut
>draw several different variants, finally choose one
>"okay, this looks pretty neat!"
>look at it two days later
>realize it's very similar to Wolverine's
well shit, I'll probably still keep it
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>>77706203
>The heroine is the great grand daughter of Heinrich Himmler, and it takes place at a private school in Germany.
I snorted. Advertise it here again when you have it done and a site running, I'll definitely give it a try.

>>77708040
Not Tapastic again, please. What's with people choosing this abomination of site design? Do you want your readers to actively hate you?
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How do you guys feel about imagination being a main characters power?

I had this idea for a story where there main character imagines he can fight or use powers or weapons of heroes from books and shows he liked reading while growing up.

But I don't want him to be like super powerful with this power. Like fighting real enemies or death defying situations is pretty scary for him, so he might not be able to use the weapons or powers to there full potential.

But I thought it would be funny if he buys like a nerf gun or sword from some show he likes, and then suddenly it becomes the real deal once his mind starts wondering.

What do you guys think?
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>>77712222

Neverending story?
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>>77711882
>Not tapastic again
It is better than a tumblr host for the most part in terms of functionality. What's your beef with it? Genuine curiosity.
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>>77711678
how do you go from pixie to wolverine
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>>77712222
as you said, you don't want them to be super powerful.. so.. how do you limit it? that's the problem. Twelve Forever comes to mind.
>>77712261
and if you've read the actual story to the part after where the movie ends, where he starts using his imagination to make things real, you'll know why it has limits
>>77712400
its format is godawful.. but it's -okay- for one specific kind of comic where you binge a few pages at a time
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>>77712222
Sounds like a perfect material for both Gary Stu and a self-insert. I mean, it's the ultimate self-insert - the average guy kinda overseeing the story with the power of characters from all the other stories he witnessed in the past.

Way too easy to fuck this up badly if you ask me. Still, if you think you're up to task, you can try.
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>>77712435

Yeah thats why I'm trying to see if I can limit his powers some how.

Or maybe he needs something to be able to manifest powers and weapons.

Plus he wouldn't be as skilled as the real heroes, so he would have trouble using them to his advantage.
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>>77712400
The awful entry under entry under entry design, with actual navigation stuck in a small space in the lower left part of the screen, which you have to scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll some more once there are more than a few tens of pages. Maybe it looks better in bigger resolutions, it certainly doesn't on my 1440x900.

If webcomics actually used a full chapter per release format, it would work a bit better because at least the navigation on the left would be much more useful. Since that's not the case and we go page by page instead, it doesn't work at all.
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>>77712411
Hair neatly combed to the side looked too boyish with my art, so I needed to make it a bit more wild. I guess I overdid the wild part a bit.
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>>77713227
so basically you were trying to do Janet from Avengers EMH and you overdid the sides a bit? that can happen. but that's hardly pixie, that's... naru from sailormoon. another style i like a lot that you never see anymore.
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>>77712430

Only way to beat a god is his own creations and nightmares.

If he is power by imagination, His imagination can turn against him.
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>>77710156
>That's not a good design for a knife - don't have holes in stuff
Tell that to Spyderco. Basically all their knives have holes in them and they're considered one of the better knife companies in the country.
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>>77713507
Huh, i guess i misspoke.
You get what i mean, though.
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FYI, Manga Studio 5 is on sale for $15, until November 30. (Normally $47.99)

http://my.smithmicro.com/manga-studio-5.html
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>>77713658
Neat, thanks for the info!
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>>77713507
>>77713551
as mentioned earlier, holes are one thing, big gaping emptinesses are another.
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>>77712222
>that trip quad
your ideas are gonna be a success
its in the stars
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>>77713658
Oh man, almost bought it yesterday, then remembered black friday is a thing. Glad I waited.
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>>77713101
>>77712400
What would the alternative be? I can't stand Tapastic's format but on Tumblr I really have zero exposure. I'm hoping that rebooting the comic on a platform that is meant for actual comics could give me more visibility.
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>>77714446
You could build your own site.
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>>77714446
use a free hosting site at least at first
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>>77714484
>>77714509
Whatever. I'll see how it goes. Maybe I can just publish the comic on multiple platforms?
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>>77714579
Personally I'm against that because it seems like that could lead to a weird, fractured audience. If your goal is to make money off of your webcomic, I would recommend you get your own site. You also have the most control over the design and layout that way.

And if cost is a concern, there are a lot of hosts that cost $10/month or less that provide you with more bandwidth than you'll ever need for at least a year or two, until your comic explodes, and by the time it does that you shouldn't have a problem paying for more bandwidth.
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>>77714446
I'd love to know myself. The last time I had a webcomic, I've had it on ComicGenesis and it worked for me back then, but that was 9 or 10 years ago. I don't know how it works now, but in 2006 you had to have certain elements in your design. Nothing you really wouldn't want to have I guess, but it did restrict you a bit if you planned to be creative with your site, e.g. Unsounded's extended pages might have been impossible. Maybe it has changed since then, but I've also heard their administration went to shit a long, long time ago. I didn't have any real webcomic to put out after that one, so I wasn't particularly interested in the hosting issue.
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>>77714446
smackjeeves might work if you don't mind it looking like a 2002 sprite resource.
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Can I post my art even though its not webcomic?its a traditional comic I'm starting
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>>77714840
No, this thread is only for webcomics. Go to the Batman thread.
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>>77714840
Yeah sure I've been doing that for months. It's a comic... that you're posting on the web.

>>77714947
see above
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>>77714708
comicgenesis still works, the problem is that when it has regular needs for maintenance, there are like, no mods left.. and DAYS later the issue gets solved. The service is clearly being abandoned.
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>>77714840
comics is comics. post it
are you really thinking of offline publishing though? do people even do that?
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>>77713658
Alright, I'm going to buy it.

I've used exclusively Sai for years now. I'm expecting serious improvement in page layout, text, word balloons, etc. How difficult is the learning curve? I'll probably take the weekend to try it out.
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>>77715470
it's a lot closer to photoshop in nature
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>>77714708
>>77714766
>>77714509
>>77714484
You know what... I got a very basic free hosting program and bought a domain to redirect. At this point I'll just commit to it and use Comicpress.
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>>77716873
That's a solid plan. Don't forget an RSS feed! Apparently those are popular again.
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>>77717014
i know lately more and more i feel like using RSS instead of checking bookmarks because fuckit I have so many comics to check and so few update each day
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>>77717070
I'm still old-fashioned and check bookmarks but thanks to the way things like Twitter and Facebook deliver content, a way that RSS did since forever ago, it's becoming even more popular than it was in like 2008.
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>>77716873
This post made me realize that I don't even know the name of your comic. I know it's about a cute robot grill who likes hats and changes outfits regularly but I don't know what it's called.
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>>77714840

Its a technical yes, if you are posting your comic online, show us.
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>>77717937
Skylight!
I set up a website at skylightcomic.net

>>77717014
Will surely allow a full RSS feed, I used those for a long time.

I'm brushing up my website-making and I'll probably start things up in a very barebones fashion, but it's better than nothing.
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>>77718457
Simplicity is good! All my site has is standard webcomic page navigation and 3 links: Archive, Cast and About. Oh, and an RSS feed. Eventually I'll add a Shop page, but that's quite a ways off, and that'll most likely be it for my site. Overcomplicated site design is a negative.
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>>77718457
ComicPress/WordPress has RSS enabled by default, so you shouldn't need to do anything technical to set it up. You may have to go and dig around the settings to display the little RSS icon though.

I also use RSS for pretty much for every website I read regularly that updates less than daily, especially as I use a Firefox plug-in that opens up new pages in tabs.
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There's a lot of hate regarding Tapastic, but honestly, I just don't see any alternatives that come even close to decent.

Smackjeeves only allows pages of up to 500kb size, which means I have to randomly start resizing pages for them to fit.

Could of course make my own website, but honestly, does that gain you any followers at all? I'm aware the really big webcomics benefit more from a private site, but it just seems like I'd get too easily lost in the crowd.
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>>77718776
>Could of course make my own website, but honestly, does that gain you any followers at all? I'm aware the really big webcomics benefit more from a private site, but it just seems like I'd get too easily lost in the crowd.
This is just you being insecure. If you hit the right demos and advertise and promote your comic effectively you won't have any problem gaining an audience, regardless of your comic's hosting situation.
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>>77718793
Are there any alternatives to Smackjeeves, Tumblr, Deviantart, and Tapastic, though?
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>>77718457
offline for maintenance eh
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>>77718856
Yeah it'll be till Monday I guess, then the comic will resume from where I left.
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>>77718776
there are templates that basically fix everything up for you.
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>>77718776
How can you run out of 500 kB? It's not possible unless you go for retarded image dimensions.
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>>77719179
500kb is actually really small
The hi-res PNG versions of pages I make are generally above 5mb
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>>77719179
What are you doing that your comic is less than a MB? You either have a pixel art gimmick and you use gifs or you're compressing your shit to hell.
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>>77719283
High-res (2318x3857) is 1.59 while resized (980x1517) is 1.15mb, using my last page as an example. It varies by page of course but that difference is pretty typical for my comic. How high-res are your pages?
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>>77719864
In my recent pages the size is 2mb-3.5mb [email protected], I confused the 5mb with some of my higher res illustrations.
Resized for viewing online they are [email protected] with 1mb-1.5mb filesizes
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>>77720720
>Resized for viewing online they are [email protected]
uh they wouldn't be 300dpi unless you mean you cropped the images instead of down scaling. "dpi" doesn't mean anything unless you're printing.
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>>77720810
I do prints, actually
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>>77719179
my comic is a measly 900 px wide, maybe 1800 long, and it's always above 500kb
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I recommend your own website or a tumblr with really good tags. You want as much freedom and control as possible.
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I forgot things for a day or two
have nothing much

I kinda regret having him take the mp5 as i've had to make a fairly bullshit reason or two for him to reach the planned 'end point'.

Time shenanigans are hard, especially in this kinda comic
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>>77722314
hazards of a choose-your-own story man
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boop
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Aight it's 4.30AM and I'm dead. I have tweaked it the best I could and I have a functional site. I really have to work on the comic now, but I'll add a bunch of functionalities, maybe a few extra pages and a link to a separate blog.

Can you guys tell me if it works and displays correctly?

http://skylightcomic.net
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>>77724766
Almost perfect. and i actually like the side by side thing because i assume each new update will have the previous one on the left (?) or else it'll start a new page, which tips you off
Right now there are two main issues:
>navigation is inconsistent. i could outline how, but you have so few pages right now you can just experiment yourself
>navigating to different pages doesnt change the URL so there's no linking someone to any particular part
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>>77724948
>>navigating to different pages doesnt change the URL so there's no linking someone to any particular part
Yeah I'm trying to figure this out. The host I'm using doesn't allow DNS shenanigans so this is a very basic redirect from the .net domain to the actual host, but this is messing up the actual navigation? Whatever.

>Almost perfect. and i actually like the side by side thing because i assume each new update will have the previous one on the left (?) or else it'll start a new page, which tips you off
Nah I'm simply uploading 2 pages at a time when I update. I definitely like the 'book' format better than the scrolly thing in Tapastic.

As for the inconsistent navigation, I have no clue... I'm definitely too tired to think. When I have fixed this domain problem and I have added a bunch of buttons that link to archives and a few other things (any ideas?), that'll be perfect in my book.

I don't really feel like I have a lot to say when I post the pages, and I don't like having content in the comic outside the actual pages, so it'll probably stay barebones.

My only gripe is that this two-page format is spread over a single image and this might cause problems to tablet users, but I'll face this problem in the far future.
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>>77725120
i actually have no idea about this stuff, so i take it this is all hosted elsewhere and you're literally redirecting each page?
>Stuff to say other than the pages
it's funny, i always do, but i feel like i'm talking to nobody, so I don't bother. also I don't know how to have a news area or whatever. better to save that shit for deviantart, or for here.
anyway is this gonna be your site forever? because if so i'm bookmarkin it. i like your shit
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Face-wise, who do you think would make good villain wizard? I need to use someones face as a model
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>>77725251
Alan Moore
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>>77725224
Yes this is going to be my website. Even if I change host (this one's free but kinda crappy and it might be the source of the unchanging address issue) the domain will always be the same.

Thanks for appreciating my stuff :D
Hopefully I'll be back on track with the redraws by Monday, and from that point onwards I'll be more careful. I feel like I have no chance of making it if I don't keep the quality as high as I can, even at the cost of frequent updates.

Anyway it's 5:20... I think I deserve a nap. Goodnight!
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>>77725309
thanks, can't believe I didn't think of that
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>>77725251
christopher lee
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Just an idea, an idea that's going to be tucked away for a while, but one I didn't want to ignore.

Key to the Kingdom (KttK) - Coin Saga

On a middle-east looking continent is a gutsy kid named Almad, a strong-willed boy who used to be a slave in a diamond mine six months before the present. He was nearly killed by the leader of a gang of desert thieves, but he managed to steal a lamp before the thieves rode off, leaving him to die. He's been rubbing the lamp to temporarily communicate with a former slave and fierce warrior named Celik (not a genie), who was trapped in the lamp by a wizard's spell. With his help over the last half year, Almad has learned to read, among other things. Free, but not knowing what to do with his life, Almad makes his first goal becoming strong enough to confront the wizard who trapped Celik.

After succeeding at that, Celik trusts him enough to tell him that he's searching for incredible, one-of-a-kind riches. They team up, learn the politics of the land and who's who, and race everyone else in a brutal journey for the treasures.
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>>77725430
.. that's actually really cool. that's a great idea. it plays on the subtle mamluk imagery in most depictions of genies (especially Popo)
now i'm not certain how a man made of earth could be trapped in a lamp the same way as a djinn made of fire and smoke, but.. fuckit, wizards are crazy. also you should look up the arabic term for wizard, i fucking can't remember.
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Now we got the gang's reactions to this whole kerfuffle in this WIP.

Shout out to Rainbow-Flyer for inspiring Sarah's new hair-do, and working hard on the guest comic for guest comic week!
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>>77725513
heh
is that hairstyle new? it looks about the same to me but better drawn than usual
poor sora..
btw it's reference. You need to write that down, because you write renfrence a lot.

btw when is deadline for guest comic week because i have the barest hint of an idea but it aint much and i probably won't have time what with thanksgibbons coming up
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>>77725590
december 1st, you got 5 days buddy.

Anyways, yeah, I guess i meant to say improved.
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>>77725494

I wanted a design that suggested genie at first, especially to those superstitious enough to think he's a REAL genie, when it's really the fact that even after his escape, Celik's had some hard knocks. He's in his late 30s, and in the time he's escaped he's been stabbed, burned (see shoulder), sliced, and a poisoning attempt that turned his skin from the dark brown it originally was into a very deep blue hue. Needless to say, he's paid back every person who's left a mark on him in full. As for the spikes in his shoulder, he figured after getting scuffed up plenty of times before that he'd have someone insert those in his shoulder to look even fiercer. He absolutely plays up his appearance.
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>>77725637
>a black slave from arab times, easily the worst black people have ever been treated in history, at least tied
>Gets turned from regular blackpeople brown to dark blue
neat. also helps with the plausibility of thinking he's a genie. works for me.
he should likely have been branded at some point too, i reckon.
Now when you say the spikes are inserted... like piercings?
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>>77725660

Sort of like piercings, but more likely is that he found someone with a specialty that best fit his wish of having two horns from a monster fused to his shoulder. I should also clarify that despite the inspiration, my fantasy includes blacks amongside other ethnicities equally, holding wealthy positions and royal positions and everything. Almad and Celik were enslaved because they belonged to nomadic tribes where the sultans and shahs and so on figured no one would care if they were used and abused for labor to get precious goods like sugar, cinnamon, gold, jewels, etc.

I wouldn't want to distract from the story with commentary on race.
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>>77725802
well i think depending on where you go, that's plausible. you had plenty of respected darkies in this kingdom and that, just not so much in the islamic world
so yeah it's a fantasy arabian setting, there's room for all of that. it's allowed to be hinted at or a nod to, it doesnt have to be heavyhanded and exact. I'm down.
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>>77658654

hey yall, havent posted anything since the last thread, just started working on page 6 of FATES

i think all it needs is clouds and its done, no dialog, more powerful that way maybe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUnLitwsPX0&list=PL6EA21F036760F38B&index=36
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>>77719283
>>77719494
>>77719864
Pffft. What are you doing people? My pages were 850x1200 at about 200 kB on average. But hey, instead of showing you my bad comic that's already taken off the Internet, I'll use much better known examples, taking a look at their last several pages.

- Unsounded - 600x900 up, 250-300 kB (extended pages are multiple files, so I'm not going to bother), JPEG
- Paranatural - varies, around 770x1120, 750-1100 kB, PNG
- Stand Still, Stay Silent - 950x1350, 300-400 kB, JPEG
- Gunnerkrigg Court - 600x850, 170-200 kB, JPEG
- Penny Arcade - 1050x526, 170-200 kB, JPEG
- Camp Weedonwantcha - 970x1400 (varies in height), 650-900 kB, JPEG

As you can see, you can have a successful webcomic and not run out of 500 kB per image. Your average or "measly" 950x1500 or so resolution is actually BIG in comparison. Also the above shows clearly - don't use the fucking PNG format, use JPG instead, like most of the big players do.
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>>77727015

did i over do it with the shading? yeah going to clean that up rel quick and then its done...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlvNen9oMfM&index=1&list=PL6EA21F036760F38B
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>>77727277

real quick*
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>>77727219
hmm, might be an image quality thing
i always save mine as quality 10 out of 12.. but with a lot of very saturated and very flat colors, that's important. a lower quality JPG would show really bad artifacts otherwise.
odd you badmouth png though, if your comic is mostly aliased then png is ideal, much smaller files. and if it's not, png is still usually smaller and nicer looking files..
in any case though, no artist ever likes limits. being told your file can't get above a certain size OR ELSE is bothersome. Besides what does the individual file size matter? it doesn't help the host any because the artist will surely just make shorter, more numerous pages as a result, even splitting a particular comic into two image files if necessary
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>>77727277

i cleaned it up so its done... but i might add more to it like cloud shadows, if i do you can see the results and more pages of FATES here: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04cm8X95c5g
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r8
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>>77727636
pushing the envelope with the racial politics in this one
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>>77706203
the style is solid, I'm sure the production time is quick but the jokes are kinda meh. THE FRAMING of the jokes are good (Finnish people etc, extravagant deuteragonist) but the joke itself is flat. An auspicious start.
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I am VERY proud of this page, it has each member of the team as themselves and I dunno, I just had so much fun making this one.
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in the process of doing a character sheet, but I'm struggling to find the motivation at the moment.
I'll probably finish it at sometime on Friday or this weekend once I have the time.
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>>77728469

shit, 4chan won't let me delete this and replace it with a smaller file.

If you want something that won't crash your browser trying to open it, here.
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To that anon responsible for Res Nullius
I like the way its going right now. So far i only disliked hotel talk scene.

worst thing on your webcomic is execution of the art. but comics itself is good shit.
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>>77722314
just shoot all your problems away!
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>>77725430
Neat.
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>>77713658
3D options in this program feel almost like cheating.
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>>77727219
Nah, I'm not gonna stop using PNG ever.
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>>77727219

>JPGs are better than PNGs

Literally all of my high quality PNGs have smaller file sizes than my high quality JPGs.
What the fuck are you talking about.
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>>77730663
No, what the fuck are you talking about?

Okay, I thought, maybe that's the issue of no color because my comic had none, only black and white. So just a second ago I fetched one of my very few full color images, saved it as BMP first (so no compression, 100% true to the original), then downsized it to viewable proportions and saved as PNG, then did the same but with JPG. Result? JPG is 68 kB while PNG is 280 kB. Oops.

"Oh but you must have lost some quality!" The only difference, besides the massive file size disproportion, is that one out of many shades of blue in the picture is slighty different in JPG. And that's it. No visible artifacts. Saved at 90% quality.

But maybe that's just one exception, unfortunately chosen as an example? So I took another full-color image, saved it as BMP first, then as JPG and PNG, this time without resizing. Result? JPG is 262 kB, PNG is 901 kB. This time I don't even see any differences besides the file size. Oooops!

So again, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>77731280
Not thinking about file size but .png is better almost always for anything online. .jpg is best for printing if anything.
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>>77731280

Png is good for solid colors and jpg is good for gradients.
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Happy thanksgiving /hyw/!

(at least for you american anons)

Have a poster of the Mann family! (And Annabeth because he has no parents)
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forgot pic.
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>>77731377
>>77731316
>>77731280
>thinking jpg is good, at all
Holy fuck newfags kill yourselves
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>>77732511
That's not a very nice thing to say on Thanksgiving of all days, anon!
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>>77732383
she*
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>>77732697
Sure anon, Just for today annabeth is a girl.
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>>77727636
snert
>>77728233
definitely makin progress, man. i remember when you couldnt draw that orz position. hell i remember when i couldnt
now just remember to watch those shoulders and give them at least one arm's-thickness of connection-point space when you draw in the armpit creases.
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>>77733005
now i'm imagining brownabeth tanning with butter like kramer did that one time, and getting all browned and crispy turkey style for thanksgiving
id better not find a wishbone in this turkey
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>>77733477
You're gonna get the wishboner
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>"I am the beast king, Strong & free".
>"I met a child that is stronger than me".
>....

I am not good at poetry.
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>>77735048
actually that's pretty good
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>>77731316
.jpg is pretty much the worst, least advised option for print, thought...
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>>77733434
What's an Orz position?
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>>77735176

God, I wanted to know what the other anon opinion on my comic.

He was so angry for reading my crappy story. He just seem to be disappointed by my actions. I didn't want him to feel this way. God, I fee like a freaking idiot.
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>>77735304
I normally print png, but when I've submitted work to magazines/zines they have always asked for a .jpg at 300 dpi. This is cause the 300 dpi will print fine, but the .jpg file itself is smaller.
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>>77735313
>>77735638
you two just need to have your own general because you post way too much. i guess we could throw bones in for a true trinity.
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>>77735847

Who give a crap?

As long as we posting comics, Who gives a crap. I am working on being a better comic artist/writer, Nobody in my family is interest in making stories like me. So, I just share it with you guys.
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>>77735313
sarah in the 7th panel. orz looks like a person doing that
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>>77735847

They're not posting too much and for a thread that drops to page 8-10 on a daily basis, I see nothing wrong with it.
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>>77736258
they post way more than the other folks in this thread. it's important to learn to work without constantly running back to the computer to post what you made. also i hate these threads no matter who's posting half the time, but it's the only semi-active webcomics community i can find so here i am. between the artists in these threads who just won't learn and the person who would give up additional exposure for fear of "tumblrinas" these threads could be better...
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>>77732511
All these arguments I have no response to, holy shit. You totally won this man.

>>77733005
So you're retconning your comic as you go? I'm pretty sure she/he/it was changing its gender on its whim last time I tried reading your stuff (quite some time ago).
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>>77736487
>it's important to learn to work without constantly running back to the computer to post what you made
But the important thing about webcomics is not making webcomics but rather people seeing you making webcomics. It's about people patting you on the back, not about pageviews or critical success.
Bones is without a doubt the most perfect example of what a webcomic artist is.
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>>77736487
>it's important to learn to work without constantly running back to the computer to post what you made.
Honestly the only one who does this is bones. Dewd posts his stuff with more frequency, but its still not THAT bad.
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>>77736510
Nah, that was just me being funny, annabeth has been a boy sense chapter 6.

But I do have an explanation for all of annabeth's changes in the story.
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>>77736487

Why do you care?

Do you like shaming people for making posts?
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>>77736572
I can't decide if it's a joke or a honest cynical post. Because it's true.
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>>77736604
it's not just bones. i don't think many people want or care to see WIPs unless the artist is looking for advice on something specific or is in the process of developing characters/story/etc and again, is looking for advice.

i sound like a real bitch, but don't assume people want or care to see preliminary work, or "inks done!" or whatever. Learn to post your work sparingly - you're only as good as the worst thing you allow people to see. If you only post finished, or adept, work then folks will have an impression of you as an adept artist. Which is... important.
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>>77736939

Fine, This anon is crying about seeing WIPS.

I guess we could make a rule about that or you going to bitch about it more. Happy?
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>>77736939
I just do it so people can maybe catch mistakes I missed.
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>>77737087
I think trying to make rules is a fruitless endeavor, but I just mean... you guys gotta learn to critically evaluate your own work and find your own mistakes and fix them. You won't improve your eye when you let others look for you - that also contributes to the slow pace of your improvement. Being able to evaluate your own work for error is a critical skill and one that atrophies when you constantly let others do it for you. This also applies to you >>77737132
I have been here since these threads started and while you've shown improvement, I think you've spun your wheels a lot too. Also it's good to ignore critique you know isn't valid, but it's the same with compliments too. I feel like the people who're saying you've made "big improvement" are the kinda folks who only look at cartoon/anime art and don't really realize how high a ceiling there is. Everybody here needs to look at more "fine" art, even the folks who do it all the time. Trying to get "webcomic good" is a really low bar for anybody to set for themselves. I know you can do more, which is why I'm soooo hard on you when I post. If I thought you were shit or hopeless I wouldn't waste the time.
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>>77727602

made a new animoo strips thingy, happy thanksgiving everybody!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgkt4S2Bh_s
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>>77737290
>This post.

So, You want to make a rule or not? You thinking you are fighting yourself.

I mean, It is good that You are a cheering us on. But, It feel like You don't want to be a critic for crappy web-comic artist/writers anymore.
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>>77737746
>You thinking you are fighting yourself.

I'm thinking you are fighting yourself. Also, I agree you with your whole.
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>>77737587
>Where's the joke.jpg
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>>77733005
Is Annabeth a cuntboy?
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>>77725430
>ROSS
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>>77737822
The joke is that you replied.
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>>77737830
You know, I actually considered that like, a hundred threads ago when we had a comic that featured one.
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/co/, do you reinvent the game or does the game reinvent you?
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>>77736939
>i don't think many people want or care to see WIPs

What about character designs and such?

I wasn't posting for a while, because I'm still working on my skills, to be bluntly honest. But it'd be nice to know if people are even interested in concept art etc.

Also I personally don't mind people posting here. Actually this thread is surprisingly empty. Might be because of Thanksgiving.
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Updated The Sisters.
4 Pages. The Wake.
In which the Night Manager doesn't really introduce himself, Walt gets angry for good reasons, Julius didn't come, and Beatrice is on the warpath.

http://thesisters-comic.com/
http://tapastic.com/episode/231953

>>77725430
Interesting. Celik looks cool.

How you all doing?
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>>77736939
>you're only as good as the worst thing you allow people to see. If you only post finished, or adept, work then folks will have an impression of you as an adept artist. Which is... important.

That's fucking stupid. Many people, especially fellow artists appreciate seeing sketches and wips of artists they like. I have whole folders of nothing but sketches and roughs of professional comic artists. The very idea that a sketch somehow doesn't show as much skill as finished work is pretty amateur in the first place. If you are bad, your finished work will look just as bad, maybe even worse, no amount of polish can hide fundamental flaws. Meanwhile if you are good, your skill shows through in even the roughest wips.
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>>77740537
Would you put it in???
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Thought a lot of you artists/drawfags would like this
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>>77740796
>That one 3rd, 2nd at that, in a sea of 1st.
I think that's actually almost a poem of some sort.
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>>77740796

what an utter faggot
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Updated my lizardy comic and this update gives a first glimpse on some fresh new characters.

A more in depth look on these characters (and some more characters) will happen in the coming updates.

The comic can be found here, as usual:
http://mostlylizard.com/
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>>77740657

It is impossible to divide by zero.
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http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/134027274625

i flexed my fancy writing fingers.
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>>77736487
you are not their dad
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>>77736510
there's a lotta retconning in westtree. i'm glad i got to get in on some of the shit before it retconned
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>>77737746
crappier people need more WIPs so their many problems can be caught sooner. if you dont like a particular person, filter
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>>77739187
WIPs are one of the most important things to post here
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>>77739217
using lightning powers for opening your power doors. that's adoorable.
I'm loving this dialogue here. bowling-buddy guy sure does look like adam west
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>>77740796
I have no idea what any of this is about
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How can I avoid /pol/ stuff seeping into my plot?
Researching for evil shit for my antagonists to do I more and more end up agreeing with them.
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>>77741104
yay, new characters
dat lizard's so cute tryin to get his little leg over the threshold.. and standing there gettin scanned..
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>>77742185
There's something very strange about hand-writing text meant to be on a screen, but doing so in an abbreviated unreadable fashion due to how long it would take, then type-writing it out afterwards in what is meant to be outside the fourth wall. Not criticizing, just funny to think about
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>>77742633
good. a lot of shit labeled evil is actually good, and vice versa. devil's second greatest trick. writing a story with moral ambiguity is a lot more fun and the results are a lot more interesting
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>>77736487
>and the person who would give up additional exposure for fear of "tumblrinas"

I agree on this, whenever somebody says that or make "Hi I am totally an aspiring animator how do I not pander to tumblr it just comes out as

>"I want to make stuff that will be liked but marginalize a potential fanbase because of certain users on a said site"

People on this website need to stop caring about SJWs so much. Worry about your craft being good enough to have an actual fanbase first
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>>77742633
I recommend looking into the traditional sense of alignments, i.e. Law, Chaos, Neutral, and then think about how good and evil applies to any of them.
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>>77742659
I guess the actual image is like, a non-literal representation of what's going on.
text sure is strange
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>>77742633

Moral ambiguity is always great and makes the villains great.
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>>77742633
Although moral ambiguity is good, you don't have to make all your bad guys secretly good and all your good guys secretly bad; it's not a bad idea to make evil characters that are genuinely evil people.
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