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So does anyone get annoyed when people try to act as their headcanon

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So does anyone get annoyed when people try to act as their headcanon is true even after it contradicts "word of God"? Case in point, when people tried to say Rose has slept with other humans before she got with Greg. It feels really pretentious when people do this shit.
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but it's canon she was with other humans before greg... ?
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>>77657968
Death of the author and all that. All that matters is what's in the work itself.
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>>77658009
Nope
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I don't have a problem with people liking worldbuilding or whatever in their heads but you can't confuse them with fact.

>>77658010
Isn't death of the author more about interpretation? OP is talking about things that aren't even hinted at from the source material and people essentially making shit up.
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>>77658059
>OP is talking about things that aren't even hinted at from the source material and people essentially making shit up.
Rose said she'd dated other humans before. It's not unreasonable to guess she slept with them.
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>>77658082
No she didn't. Even Ian said she has never been with a human before Greg.
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>>77658082
Oh, I don't even know what show this is for sure. Then I guess he misused the word. Headcanons aren't based on interpretations or misinterpretations like that.
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>>77658099
>Have you loved other humans?
>Have you?
>Yes.
>Yes.
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>>77658171
Obvious she was talking about Romanic love. Also you omitted the next lines fampai

>have you been in love with other human?
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>>77658214
Not*
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>>77657968
No, because why the hell should I give a fuck what a fandom pulls out of their ass? If anything, it's kind of amusing to see people lose their shit when months, if not years of meticulously constructed fantheories that are treated as though they're holy dogma is completely nullified by whatever show or book they're obsessing over.
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>>77657968
The example that gets me unnecessarily riled up is when people say that Fionna, Cake, and the other genderbent Adventure Time world takes place in "The Land of Aaa."

They've never used that term in the shows or comics or anything. It's always been just Ooo.
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>>77658171
Wrong
>have you dated other humans?
>yes
>have you....loved them?
>i don't know
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>>77658253
That's on TV Guide. For whatever reason its episode descriptions said the first Fionna and Cake episode was set in the "Land of Aaa" and it stuck even though the writers said they don't know where that came from and that they never used it.
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>>77658082
She's "played" with other humans before, I'm sure some horny bastard shagged her.
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>>77657968
Nigger thats canon.
Watch we need to talk again.
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>>77658433
See>>77658099
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>two SU threads.
I don't want to jinx it, but I think we're going too hard here, guys.
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>>77657968
>Implying "Word of God" said Rose was a virgin before Greg

>Saying it without source even though it's blatantly spelled out in-show
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>>77658214
>>77658331
So? she could have slept with them anyway? OP wasn't talking about love but sex
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>>77658214
It's pretty clear that Rose had only a very loose understanding of human love up until that point.

I'm not saying that she definitely slept with other humans, but it's not an unreasonable assumption to make.

>>77658331
What? Dude, I posted the exact dialogue.
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I try to avoid people who use the word "headcanon" so no.
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>>77658572
But she didn't really "love" anyone the same way she loved Greg, she only loved them superficially and sexily.

OP is probably confused and thought when the crew said "love" they meant "sex", the same way OP's kind is often confused when they see the crew say "Greg and Amethyst weren't in a relationship they were just friends" and think that confirms there was no one night stand between them.
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>>77658331
That's not it at all.
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>>77658579
>but it's not an unreasonable assumption to make.

It kinda is because she had to learn how to shapeshift her body to have Steven
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>>77658009
She says she's loved other humans. This can mean anything from platonic to romantic feelings, they don't elaborate. Yet judging from the awkwardness of Rose trying to carry on a romantic relationship with Greg, it's safe to assume that he's the first she considered more than a friend or a cute toy.
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>>77658099
When and where did he say that?
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>>77658632
>OP is probably confused and thought when the crew said "love" they meant "sex"
how much of a dumbfuck virgin do you have to be
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>>77658666
Obviously Rose Quartz didn't have kids with any humans before Greg, since she had to, y'know, give up her life to make Steven. But it's still quite possible that she had sex with other humans beforehand, just without shapeshifting all the parts necessary for reproduction. She didn't have a deep understanding of human romantic love, but the actual mating is a pretty obvious part of it; she might have thought it was cute and wanted to try it herself.
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>>77658171
I got the feeling that Rose only said yes, because Greg said yes.
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>>77657968
>VHS tape
>Widescreen
Sugar, you madwoman.
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>>77659005
Deprived virgin please
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Why the fuck are there three SU threads on the same page?
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So now that the OP has been proven wrong where does this thread go from here?
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>>77659177
I say just let it die. Too much SU threads.
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>>77659110
>Deprived virgin please
Sorry, this Pearl's already taken. You'll have to get your own.
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>>77659177
>proven right

Ftfy
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>>77658666
Well yea, she didn;t have a functioning womb.

It's not hard to shapeshift a hole.
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>>77657968

Pre-marital sex, adultery and promiscuity certainly do contradict the Word of God, and its a shame "progressives" want to attempt to force their ideas about sex and relationships even into our children's cartoons.
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>>77658099
source, liar
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>>77657968
>Case in point, when people tried to say Rose has slept with other humans before she got with Greg. It feels really pretentious when people do this shit.
Wut? She outright said that she has been with other before. Even the other Gems call Greg "her favourite one".>>77658099
You'd better provide a source, mother fucker.
>>77658331
Dating someone and being in love isn't the same thing.
>>have you dated other humans?
>>yes

Here, it's all you need to prove OP worng.

This thread is a wreck.
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>>77659876
>Pre-marital sex, adultery and promiscuity certainly do contradict the Word of God
I don't think Greg and Rose were ever married. And what word of god contradict Promiscuity?
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>>77659471
How so?
"We need to talk" basically spell it out for us that Rose had been dting other humans before greg.
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>>77659876
>and its a shame "progressives" want to attempt to force their ideas about sex and relationships even into our children's cartoons.
Except for adultery (that isn't even implied in the show), strongly disagreeing. Telling kids "you are most likely going to date several people before meeting the right one" is one important thing to know about relationship.
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OP sounds like a butthurt purity fag
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>>77659876
It's hilarious when people try to act like Steven Universe is just an innocent vanilla children's cartoon with no possible further implications, while knowing who makes the damn thing
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>>77659067
I really hope you aren't OP
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headcannon triumphs over the dull gates of censorship
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I get the feeling that getting a gem pregnant isn't possible unless they purposely shapeshift the right equipment for it. Even than I get the feeling she just gave herself a tummy to feel the part.

Greg is the first human who she took seriously in the end but Pearl's talk implies she had other 'distractions' in the past.
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>>77658010
That's to do with your own critical interpretation of a text, not trying to override canon with your own.
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>>77660715
>I get the feeling that getting a gem pregnant isn't possible unless they purposely shapeshift the right equipment for it. Even than I get the feeling she just gave herself a tummy to feel the part.
Your right she did make a womb and vagina for greg
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>>77657968
Well she is canonically a slut.
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>>77660357
>Except for adultery (that isn't even implied in the show), strongly disagreeing. Telling kids "you are most likely going to date several people before meeting the right one" is one important thing to know about relationship.
Also that the right one will have dated people before you. Placing value on "the first love" and virginity is pseudo-religious bullshit.

As much as I hate SU and its agenda, this is good.
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Ew, they're both so fucking fat
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>>77662020
pregnant =/= fat
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>>77661996
>and its agenda,
It doesn't have any kind of agenda. they just tell the story they want to tell.

Fuck, all stories, no exception, are always loaded with certain kind of values.

Hating a story not because of the values themselves, but just because it has some is simply pointless.
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>>77662275
There's a difference between pushing moral values and pushing an agenda, and I dislike SU for a number of reasons other than its agenda.
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>>77662309
Steven Universe doesn't push any kind of agenda, though.
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>>77662309
What is SU's agenda?
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>>77662330
Having pastel color cartoon on Cartoon Network.
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>>77662309
>MUH GAY AGENDERS
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>>77662216
You don't carry a baby in your arms, dude.
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>>77662376
How do you know? They are aliens, who are you to say they don't carry their babies inside their arms? Hell, they might carry their babies inside their heads for all we know.
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>>77662376
Technically there's no telling that's not the case with gems, them being shapeshifters and all.
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So are we discussing if Rose dated other humans or fucked other humans
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>>77662530
She outright says she has dated other humans.

Sex is an other deal, but it's very likely it has happened.
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>>77662552
If sex happened and pregnancy happened before, then Steven wouldn't be so rare.
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>>77662572
Sex doesn't automatically confirm pregnancy.
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>>77661996
>and its agenda
What agenda?
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>>77662572
>If sex happened and pregnancy happened before
Pregnancy has only ever happened with Steven.

She had to specifically form a womb inside of her for that. Other than that, Sex with rose was always safe sex.
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>>77662572
>>77662600
Especially when Rose needed to shapeshift certain parts to become pregnant.
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>>77662729
That lord our God was wrong and that being a lesbian is alright.
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>>77658673
Yeah, but it's not contradicting "word of god"
you're just butthurt about your own headcanons and are using this thread to justify that shit

go back to tumblr
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>>77662730
Why does she have to be a whore? Nothing in she show indicates that
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>>77662860
Sex feels good.
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>>77662860
How does having a few relationships over 5000 years make you a whore?

And to be a whore, she'd have to do that in exchange of money (or be unfaithful, depending the definition you give of the word). I don't think anything ever imply that.

It make no sense for Rose to have sex in exchange of money, and nothing indicate she has cheated on anyone.
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>>77658214
>Sex =/= love
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>>77662860
Just because a women sleeps around for a while doesn't mean she's a whore Anon, she's just confident in her sexuality.
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>>77662950
>and nothing indicate she has cheated on anyone.
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>>77662950
Ever having a relationship makes you a whore

come on man, you should know this by now
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>>77662955
Pearl's are made for fucking and keking
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>>77662860
>Having sex with more than one person makes you a whore
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>>77663077
Now you are getting it. More specifically though, women enjoying sex makes them whores. That's why they are obviously whores if they have it with multiple people. That would only happen if it were enjoyable.
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>>77657968
Sorry your waifu isn't pure, but you need to get over it
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>So does anyone get annoyed when people try to act as their headcanon is true even after it contradicts "word of God"?

My head canon tells me you're a faggot and the Korrsami bullshit is a long con Asami put into place to begin her World Domination
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>>77658214
>fampai
Fucking kill yourself, cancerous piece of shit.
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>>77663294
No tbesu
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http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/We_Need_to_Talk/Transcript

>Greg: Have you...loved...other humans?

>Rose: Have you?

>Greg: Yes.

>Rose: Yes.

>Greg: Have you ever been...in love...with a human?

>Rose: How would I know?

>Greg: It's torture.
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>>77658673
>This can mean
This became about interpretations the second you said this. If it isn't outright said, it's not a fact.
And that's a rock fact, nigga.
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>>77663429
This. I haven't seen much of this show but I don't understand where this sex stuff is coming from. It seems like everything about two people in this show boils down to "they fucked" to the fans.

Pearl and Rose fucked
Greg and Amethyst fucked
Ruby and Sapphire only fused because of sex

I don't get it
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>>77663344
I think fampai is pretty funny imho.
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>>77663404
Ooohhh. The ambiguity. That could be taken many ways.
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>>77663494
>I don't get it
Tweens today are all about sex so if a show scratches their itch for shipping they'll go crazy about it.
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>>77663494
That's every fandom ever.
>These two characters like each other! They must of fucked!
>These two characters hate each other! They must have had a complicated past where they fucked!
>These two characters eyed each other for 4 frames, you know what that means!

Doesn't help that the writers of this show seem to add sexual tension wherever they think they can get away with it and still have it be called a kids show.
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>>77663494
>I haven't seen much of this show but I don't understand where this sex stuff is coming from.
From this >>77663404
In the 5000 years time period, before Steven was conceived, Rose has dated other humans.

Op is saying it's proof that Rose never fucked before Greg (Steven's dad).
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>>77658082
>It's not unreasonable to guess she slept with them.
This is a children's show, so probably not. Fuck you people are autistic.
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>>77663583
>loved == dated
Try again. It's very clear that Rose thought of humans as toys until Greg, including the point that he asked her this question. So any "love" she felt towards humans before would be that same sort of love she would feel to a toy or pet.
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>>77663494
>Pearl and Rose fucked
Gems don't fuck other Gem. But Pearl an rose have fused
>Greg and Amethyst fucked
That has never happened, just some fanfic speculation
>Ruby and Sapphire only fused because of sex
Not exactly, their fusion is powerful because they love each other and their fusion is the expression of their love. But it's not the only reason, they make a damn effective fusion.

Gems have clearly been established as different than human. people tend to compare sex and fusion, but it's clearly different things with different purposes.
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>>77663612
>>loved == dated
Where, in any of my post am I saying that dating is the same as loving? You are not making any points.
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>>77663067
> slave Pearl with long hair and bangs
fetish overdose

...More please? can't reverse
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>>77663626
>their fusion is powerful because they love each other

and the fact that they are two different gem types
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>>77663612
>So any "love" she felt towards humans before would be that same sort of love she would feel to a toy or pet.
You are jumping to conclusion and being fanfic-y, here. It's possible to date and have sex with someone without being actually in love.

Saying that Rose MUSt have treated her previous relationship as toy/pet is making assumption with nothing to really back it up.
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>>77663639
You're using my quote of the transcript to say
>In the 5000 years time period, before Steven was conceived, Rose has dated other humans.

This is wrong.
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she's had other boyfriends which means she's a slut anyway, so whether or not she banged them is irrelevant

source: I post on /a/ and that's how it works there
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>>77663673
>with nothing to really back it up.
The evidence is how she treated Greg and all humans.
>Rose: *singing* Human man, you are so much fun. I hadn't planned, on finding you quite this entertaining. I like your band...
>Rose: *singing* ...and I like your song. I like the way, human beings play. I like playing along. Oh-woah-oh-oh-oh-woah-oh.
>Rose: That's not a problem! I love humans! You're all so funny!

>It's possible to date and have sex with someone without being actually in love.
Every interaction between the Crystal Gems and humans has shown a big divide. Remember Historical Friction?
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>>77663503
It made me laugh
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>>77663712
This only show a lack of serious relationship.
>Every interaction between the Crystal Gems and humans has shown a big divide. Remember Historical Friction?
This does not contradict the possibility of having sex, though.
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>>77662327
Yes it does.
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>>77663691
Love is the next step to dating. Being in love is the step after that.
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>>77663749
How so?
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>Steven Universe
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>>77663755
Maybe if you're looking at it from a human perspective and not from a gem perspective.
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>>77663766
Their agenda is killing Wabbits with a spear and magic helmet, obviously.
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>>77663494
Fusion is fucking/lesbian relationships (sans Stevonnie). It's not deniable anymore after Jasper called Garnet disgusting and Peridot said she was uncomfortable with her being constantly fused.

Denying it is as bad as the people who say the gems are genderless so that their lesbian faggorty won't be censored.
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>>77663755
>Love is the next step to dating.
I thought blowjobs were
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>>77663583
But who said she fucked?
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>>77663766
There it's treated as a joke, in Steven Universe it's treated as progressive (all in bundle with the lesbian couple smiling at Steven in that episode and Lars saying nothing)
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>>77663806
So Alexandrite and Sugilite is fucking? What? Jasper clearly dislikes Garnet because she sees her as weak because she's a fusion (a fact she outright stated). Jasper was even very willing to fuse with Lapis as a way to be the CGs
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>>77663859
hatesex
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>>77663837
>in Steven Universe it's treated as progressive
No, it's also treated as a joke, retard. You have to be a assblasted paranoid to see it any other way.
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>>77663859
>Sugilite is fucking?
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>>77663791
Spear and magic helmet?
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>>77663829
Who say she didn't?
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>>77663885
That's not how women fuck anon
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>>77663900
THEIR SPEAR AND MAGIC HELMET!
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>>77663900
Elmer is a norse god, I think he was Thor.
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>>77663837
Yea, "progresive."
That sure is a strange way to spell "it was also a joke"
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>>77663901
Who says she did though? The burden of proof is on you.
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>>77659876
I like how this bro totally took "Word of God" wrong

It's a TV Trope dude, look it up
In b4 I WAS JUST TROLLING OLOLOLOLO
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>>77663806
Homeworld views fusions as a weapon. Garnet walking around fused is basically pic related all the time.
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>>77663995
AIDS is a deadly weapon.
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>>77663977
>word of God
>TvTropes

It was a thing way before that site
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>>77663608
You think it's set in a world where couples don't have consensual sex off-screen?

I mean, I don't think storks are the in-universe origin for all the characters.
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>>77661996
Dating =/= sex
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>>77663673
>>77663612
Love, dating, and sex are all independent of one another. A person could have done any combination of them.
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>>77663953
No, the burden of proof is on the one who sate she didn't. Aka, OP.>>77657968
I never stated as a fact that she actually fucked before Greg (though I consider it very likely, but I am not trying to stance it as a fact either)
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>>77663837
Well, it's progressive in a way that goes against the usual "progressive" mindset: It treats gender as inconsequential, instead of an identity.
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>>77664057
No one has been saying that.
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>>77664101
Making a claim that something DID happen does mean that the burden is on the person who made the claim though
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>>77664120
But I did not made a claim that something happened.

And the burden of proof is also on the person who say that something did NOT happens.
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>>77664156
That's not how burden of proof works though
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>>77664165
It is. Claiming Rose DIDN'T sleep with anyone is a positive claim, as is claiming she slept with people.

The stance without burden of proof is "Maybe she did, maybe she didn't."
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>>77663806

Fusion is two sentient lifeforms being fused together into a single, symbiotic being. The parallels of fusion and relationships are intentional because they are literally dependent on the relationship between them to be maintained.

That's all they are.

Fusion is looked down upon by Homeworld because it is an aversion to the natural state of singular, individualistic gem existence. Fusions transcend their obvious social hierarchy and make gems that are lower in status and strength than others comparable or better than their supposed masters.

Homeworld keeps gems separated as much as possible to maintain order.

... Anyway. There's no sex going on. Fusions are an implicit taboo in their society and is only used for momentary military advantage. Like, you know, fusing millions of gem shards into one singular fusion that can be woken up to destroy a planet.

Sexuality is a human projection on gem relationships. Unless, of course, you are going to state that Steven and Connie are having constant sex as a fusion and that Rebecca Sugar is some kind of pedophile deviant mongering filth to children.

Because, despite that being true, probably isn't the case.
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IT ALL STARTED WHEN YOUR MOTHER TRANSOFRMED INTO A GIANT WOMB
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>>77664209
No making a claim that she did would require the proof that she did. It's saying "Rose did X because of Y proof" but saying "Prove Rose did X" does not require proof in itself because it's a statement that is requesting the proof.
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>>77664243
>Rebecca Sugar is some kind of pedophile deviant mongering filth to children.

She is though
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>>77664257
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>>77664304
And yet /co/ doesn't love her. That's odd.
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>>77664273
>No making a claim that she did would require the proof that she did.
Yes, I said that. Re-read my post.
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>>77664324
NEIN
NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
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>>77664165
Yes it is. Any thing stated as a fact has to be proven. Otherwise, it remains in the "maybe/maybe not" area.
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>>77664273
>No making a claim that she did would require the proof that she did.
And my point is that claiming that she did NOT do something also require proof.
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>>77664389
I never stated anyhing as a fact tho
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>>77664426
Reading comprehension, do you have it?>>77664101
>No, the burden of proof is on the one who sate she didn't. Aka, OP
I was talking about OP, not you.
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>>77664304
>underage cartoons = pedophilia
ok
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>>77663902
There's nothing subtle about legs being open
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>>77664801
>The PROTECT Act includes prohibitions against illustrations depicting child pornography, including computer-generated illustrations, also known as virtual child pornography.[1][2][4] Provisions against virtual child pornography in the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 had been ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in its 2002 decision, Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003

Get fucked, rapist.
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>>77663859

Garnet's a rare case of fusion where both gems are consenting (On the Gems homeworld, it's probably done without consent with one of the Gems)
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I hope when they find Lapis, they beat her up really bad and she cries.
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>>77663995
That's not how it was treated in the recent episode, with every character reacting awkwardly to Peridot telling Garnet to separate.

Garnet tying her up is supposed to be empowering for homos.
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>>77665031
If a Californian came to Texas, forced to work with a group there, one of which always had a gun slung on their back, and the Californian told the Texan to stop open carrying, how do you think the other Texans that don't open carry are going to react?
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>>77665031

>Peridot states Garnet being fused makes her uncomfortable
>Garnet doesn't give in to her sensibilities

Real progressive
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>>77664243
>That's all they are.
And fucking.

Stop being dense. Maybe if all of the transformations were a simple "FU-SION-HA!", then you'd have a leg to stand on.
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>>77664975
It's not about consent. It's just that gems only fuse to power up for fights and survival situations and Garnet considered odd for doing it outside of that.

Jasper seemed baffled by it. Peridot was uncomfortable around her because of >>77663995

>>77665088
It's not like you can walk up to a couple, ask them not to hold hands in your presence and act surprised if they're offended.
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>>77665067
Maybe in that situation they'd be afraid of him shooting the Californian, but why would they working with that guy if he's so unhinged.

Fusion in the context of the Crystal Gems is supposed to be something positive and Peridot is complaining about the "PDA" from Garnet.
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>>77665177
Garnet walked up to Peridot and she said she didn't want to work around someone who made her comfortable. So bad analogy.
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>>77665244
But Peridot is used to fusion being a battle thing, which is why Garnet makes her uncomfortable, because she associates fusion with danger.
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>>77665244
>Maybe in that situation they'd be afraid of him shooting the Californian,
No, they'd think "why is this pinko hippie imposing his liberal bullshit on an honest, upstanding gentleman?" Take it from me, I live here.
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>>77665301
And then they'd shoot him with a big erection in their pants because they're all psychopaths.
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Why doesn't Garnet just rape Peridot?
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>>77665130
Just because you want there to be a parallel doesn't mean there is one. Gems don't have sex and they don't have a biological analogue to sex. It's painfully obvious from what is shown in the show that fusion is not normal, unlike sex, which is something nearly every human on Earth is expected to do at some point. Gems even being in an intimate relationship is portrayed as rare, you really don't have any leg to stand on in this discussion.
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>>77665368
BECAUSE THAT ISN'T MUH REAL FUSION!
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>>77665385
No, not force her to fuse, just hold her down and fuck her fat little green ass while she cries and screams.
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>>77665331
Oh. You're one of them, aren't you? And you're "offended" by my analogy.
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>>77664970
I think she was a teen too when she did that, though.
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>>77663749
He just needs to get even more faboules.
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>>77665268
No, she asked her to unfuse for her. Very rude.
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>>77665406
I'm a sensible human being who doesn't take sexual pleasure in ending lives.
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>>77665457
>>77665331
Wow Liberians in a Steven Universe thread I never would've imagined such a thing.
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>>77664970
They're talking about realistic depictions of actual children, not stylized cartoons.
Good effort though.
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>>77665457
Jesus Christ. I don't fetishize guns, but I don't treat them like they're some sort of evil enchanted items.
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>>77665426
Battle Tendency = Best
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>>77665656
They're enchanted with the evil spirit of the patriarchy and straight white cis males.
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>>77664801
It is you degenerate
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>>77664975
>without consent with one of the Gems

But that's not how fusion works in the show. Malachite is an outlier due to the fact that she is litterally being kept together by the pressure of earth itself.
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>>77665736
I thought that it's the hatred that Lapis and Jasper share for each other that's holding Malachite together, among other things like what you described.
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>>77665596
Read it again.
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>>77665368

Because neither have genitals

>in b4 they have mouths
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>>77664970
Those lines seem to contradict each other. It looks like the first one says it's illegal, and the second says it can't be illegal.
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>>77665130
>transformations were a simple "FU-SION-HA!

They pretty much are. Just more extravagant. Garnet is the only fusion in the show that says she's an "expression of love" from the gems who make her. Take for instance Sugilite who sees herself as one whole gem and doesn't like to be split up. It has nothing to do with Ruby and Sapphire wanting to be together with Amethyst forever. It's more due to the fact each fusion has a different purpose for different context.
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>>77665794
Shapeshifting.
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>>77665750
No, Jasper is trying to escape while Lapis is keeping her there. See: Chille Tid
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>>77665031
It's both. It's not a 1:1 allegory for either.
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>>77665844
Lapis is such a hero. Barack Obama should give her medal.
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>>77665844
Yes, but that is a disagreement between the two fusion members, which in all other fusion instances we have seen results in a split.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OmrnTGdlFk
Who is Garnet supposed to be?
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>>77665871
I don't think killing all the whales is that deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize.
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>>77665883
not entirely sure, it's more like they both got carried away in a sea of anger and fear, which made the fusion quite stable.
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>>77665908
Those fucking whales had it coming.
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>>77663837
"It's not a joke in Steven universe because I've decided it's not."
When I think of it, even the context is similar. Bugs is dressed like a valkarie to get into an opera song. Steven is dressed like that to get into a girly pop song.
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>>77665905
No.
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>>77665961
Steven is doing it for a friend who didn't want to sing
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>>77665438
Whats rude about asking someone to stop fucking in front of you
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>>77665997
Why didn't she join in
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>>77666009
She doesn't know how. Peri-cherry's a virgin.
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>>77663880
>>77663930
>>77665961
>Bugs is dressed like a valkarie to get into an opera song
Did you even watch that cartoon or are familar with the structure of Elmer Fudd cartoons?

>Steven is dressed like that to get into a girly pop song.
He took Sadie's place and is in a dress because the silhouette in the poster had a dress.
It's just Steven being a fag and there's nothing particularly funny about the situation. Everybody in universe just says how "cute" it is along with the lesbian couple witnessing like I said.
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>>77665820
>Garnet is the only fusion in the show that says she's an "expression of love" from the gems who make her.
They all say it's because of love in one of those shorts.

>Take for instance Sugilite who sees herself as one whole gem and doesn't like to be split up. It has nothing to do with Ruby and Sapphire wanting to be together with Amethyst forever.
Yes it is. And that's what they were planning on doing.
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>>77666106
>It's just Steven being a fag and there's nothing particularly funny about the situation.
It's fucking hilarious, man. Dude, SJWs fried your funny bone.
>Everybody in universe just says how "cute" it is along with the lesbian couple witnessing like I said.
And?
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>>77666106
What did you want? Everyone in the audience to get on stage and start beating him?

Gumball dressed up like a cheerleader too. It'd be tough to find main characters of a show that HAVEN'T crossdressed, and I'd say at least half the time they aren't berated for it or the audience isn't visibly disgusted. You've just decided Steven Universe is being progressive so you refuse to see that scene in any other light than it being progressive.

Also there's a lesbian couple. Big whoop. Lesbians do indeed exist and sometimes go to beachapalooza.
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>>77666140
>They all say it's because of love in one of those shorts.


Not canon
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>>77666140
Sugilite is her own being though. Garnet explains this in the introduction of forced fusions. Also I wouldn't really count the shorts considering Garnet tried to smash Amethyst in one.
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>>77665377
>It's painfully obvious from what is shown in the show that fusion is not normal
It's shown that how the home planet views fusion is corrupt and unhealthy.

>Gems even being in an intimate relationship is portrayed as rare
We see it all of the time.
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>>77666223
Says who

They're explaining canon material.
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>>77666264
So did Say Uncle
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>I hate when people try to parade their headcanon around as true despite what the show demonstrates or the creators say!
>Here's my very own super special headcanon that does just that.

I didn't read the thread.
I didn't have to.
I knew how it was going to go down.
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>>77666209
>It's fucking hilarious, man
No it's not.

>And?
And it's showing that it's not a joke.

>>77666217
>What did you want? Everyone in the audience to get on stage and start beating him?
People laughing at his performance to indicate that he's doing it to be funny and not be "brave."

>Gumball dressed up like a cheerleader too.
In that situation or the one where he has to wear a wedding dress because his clothes shrunk and no one realizes it's him are supposed to be embarrassing for the main character. Also not funny, but clearly jokes.

>You've just decided Steven Universe is being progressive so you refuse to see that scene in any other light than it being progressive.
There's no other light it can be seen in.
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>>77666310
Why isn't it canon, because UG says so? They even reference it later.
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>>77666411
>and supposed to be embarrassing for the main character

It was embarrassing. Steven didn't care. He did it because he pushed his friend to do something she didn't want to do and felt like he owed the crowd.

>to be brave
Holy shit I thought you were being serious for a second.
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>>77666411
>There's no other light it can be seen in.
Let's just agree to disagree then. I'm not gonna pretend like I know what the crew was thinking when they wrote the episode and I know that neither of us are going to change the other's minds. If you think it's being super progressive with that episode and trying to push an agenda, so be it. If that makes you not like it, so be it. We can agree to disagree and stop shitting up every thread arguing about it.
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>>77666411
Anon, SU is basically western shojo ai. All the gayness and genderbending and crossdressing is not new, its the same in every shojo ai anime like Utena. Its here to make little girls go squee, and its been here for decades. You dont have to be so angry about it.
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>>77666411
>No it's not.
Yes it is?
>And it's showing that it's not a joke.
How? That doesn't make it any less funny.

>People laughing at his performance to indicate that he's doing it to be funny and not be "brave."
That is not a requirement for it to be funny. Do you need laughing tracks to know when a jikke is done on television?
>There's no other light it can be seen in.
It's a guy in a dress. It's inherently funny.
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>>77666534
you being cancer right now?
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>>77666411
>There's no other light it can be seen in.
Embarrassment isn't a requirement to be funny. The joke come from the unexpected. you expect Steven to just come on stage and sing instead of Sadie, but instead, he goes full style and the dress result in a amusing contrast.

And no matter what, it's not pushing any kind of agenda.
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>>77666140
They say that the best reason, out of many, to fuse is Love.

You fucking faggot.
You're worse than the OP posting half of a dialogue exchange to support his headcanon.
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>>77666566
Nope. Me not being asspained for stupid reasons.
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ITT:
>one anon pretends to be a retard
>absolutely everyone else replies seriously
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I was really hoping that
>>77666666
Would be someone complaining about lesbians.

What could have been, man.
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>>77666666
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>>77666666
Thread forever derailed.

Well played, man.
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>>77666666
Wish granted.
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>>77666647
Im glad we get the chance to sometimes discuss things almost civelizesed
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>>77666666
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>>77666666

WITNESSED
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>>77666666
Instead it's someone complaining about him not complaining about lesbians.

Guess one can't get everything.
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>>77666666
FUG
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>>77666666
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So this is a stealth SU general right
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>>77666666
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>>77666666
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>>77666666
Wew laddie
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>>77666666
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>>77665818
"Provisions against" would mean adding an exception to the law for certain scenarios. Having exceptions to forbidding depictions of child pornography would be unconstitutional is what it's saying.

Learn to law speak nigga. Every word counts.
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>>77666666
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>>77666762
No, this is a repeating digits thread.
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>>77666799
>>77666711

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

check em
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boy i sure hope this thread goes into the right discussion like how best to get your pearl to cry out!
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>>77666842
>>/an/
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>>77658010
>>77658059

Death of the author also means death of the fanfiction author. The work stands alone. As well as the derivative work.

>>77664325
Co can be so tsunderu sometimes.

>>77666666
Unexpectedly...recursive.
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>>77666666
This is getting too meta for me.
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>>77666666
What the fuCKING SHIT
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>>77657968
>Steven Universe
so is this the hipster shit of 2010s?

I almost miss Scott Pilgrim
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>>77666522
>It was embarrassing.
It's not protayed that way. Why else did they skip over Lars.

>Holy shit I thought you were being serious for a second.
I am serious.

>>77666523
>I'm not gonna pretend like I know what the crew was thinking when they wrote the episode
It's pretty obvious what they're thinking even if they refuse to flat out tell you when asking them.

>>77666530
>Its here to make little girls go squee
Steven isn't a bishonen. Not that there aren't pedos who find him attractive, but he's not designed to be like that. And the cast is mostly female.
So your shojo ai description doesn't work.

>>77666534
>That is not a requirement for it to be funny
It's the context for finding a crossdressing performance funny. If you have characters taking it seriously like in the show then it's not meant to be a funny moment.

>It's a guy in a dress. It's inherently funny.
No it's not.

>>77666598
>The joke come from the unexpected.
You knew that was going to happen as soon as you saw the determination on his face.

>And no matter what, it's not pushing any kind of agenda.
It's pushing crossdressing as being more acceptable.

>>77666609
That doesn't defeat my point.
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>>77665426
The world needs more JoJo
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>>77667531
binary shitters unable to deal with their own insecurities basically.
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>>77667585
Tranny please go.
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>>77667623
eat shit needle dick, if you can say anything within your wit to make me go now would be the time to try it out.
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>>77666666
HOW DID HE DO IT
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>>77667681
You need medical aid. I'm sorry about the way you are.
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>>77667681
>>77667623

Remember to ignore metal ill people on the internet.
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>>77667709
at least you have the human decency to express sympathy even if it's a veiled cunt tactic. your parents must be so proud.
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>>77667681
Aw look, it thinks it's people.
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>heard that dialogue and literally thought they were talking about something other than relationships
>heard amethyst say "this one's my favorite" and STILL literally thought they were talking about something other than relationships
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>>77667681
Did you mutilate your junk yet?
It's not too late to get therapy.
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>>77667748
>>77667775
>>77667709

see how many weenies come out of the cracks at the very notion of someone different than themselves?

what a nice group of emotionally stable people you must be.
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>>77667796
You aren't remotely different from any other delusional person who identifies as something they biologically aren't and screams on the internet how oppressed they are.
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>>77667531
>It's not protayed that way. Why else did they skip over Lars.
Dude, Lars doesn't matter. None of it does.
>I am serious.
Then calm down your tits. you are blowing a joke out of proportion.
>It's pretty obvious what they're thinking even if they refuse to flat out tell you when asking them.
Making Steven dress up as a sing like a popstar is funny and cute. This is what they were thinking.
> If you have characters taking it seriously like in the show then it's not meant to be a funny moment.
Man, you couldn't be more wrong. The most straightfaced they play it, the finniest it is.
>No it's not.
Yes it is.
>You knew that was going to happen as soon as you saw the determination on his face.
That he was going to sing instead of sadie, yes, thta he would be go full glam, no.
>It's pushing crossdressing as being more acceptable.
1. there is no big deal about that.
2. Crossdressing has been the norm in cartoon for ages already, there is no ground being broken, there.

Seriously. If you stopped seeing agendas everywhere, you could actually start enjoying things. TV and game has never changed the mind or opinion of anyone. Only open debates and education (and maybe, to a lesser extant, actual TV news on actual real things) can affect one's view of the world.

You sound like a feminist who think that featuring a lewd woman in love with the male hero is goign to affect little girls.

There i no more SJW agenda as there is a patriarchy agenda.
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>>77667821
why are you so autistic about a shit show?
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>>77667821
>TV and game has never changed the mind or opinion of anyone

tell that to the columbine killers
>>
hot dogs are addictive

greg is a pork slut junkie piece of trash
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>>77667817
Just stop talking to it.
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>>77667817
all i had to do is hint and instantly became a shitfun target simply for a hint.

how utterly emotionally fucked are you that you react that quickly and that brutally?
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>>77667847
>videogame an Maylin Manson cause mass-shooting
Are we back to 2005?

I thought we were done with those kind of stupid argument? Has Jack Thompson raised back from his grave?
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>>77667867
But it's fun to see one actually wonder into here and think that tumblr-screaming is the same as 4chains screaming.
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>>77667842
>Literal telling someone to chill the fuck out over a shit show
Do you even know what autistic means?
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>>77667842
There is nothing autistic about any of what I said. Some anon say a show is awful for "having agenda" and I call him out for his stupidity.
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>>77667893
nah senpai, i'm laughing at both of you buttpirates
there is no right or wrong on the issue; just hilarious asspain for /co/s amusement
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GREG IS A PORCINE LOVING SLUT
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>>77667887
how violent video games affect developing minds is still as relevant a topic today as it was then. Just because you're a mad lil gamer baby doesn't make it any less so.

Ever see those ISIS ads that are essentially COD trailers? Now realize that COD is in actuality an ad for the US armed forces
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>>77667623
Crossdressing is a fetish. It's not the same thing as being a trans, who is a condition.
>>77667742
>>77667775
Transexuality is not a mental illness, it's having a brain from one gender connected to a a set of genitl and gendered endocrine glands of the opposite gender, which result usually in sever depression. It's not a mental illness just like Depression isn't a mental illness. The Therapy consist of hormonal injections, which balance back the hormone the brain is actually expecting.
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>>77667875
Sounds like somebody needs to man up
>>
So, how do you guys feel about Steven Universe?
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>>77667984
Just because I identify as an owlbear doesn't make me an owlbear.
>it's having a brain from one gender connected to a a set of genitl and gendered endocrine glands of the opposite gender
>Major Depressive Disorder isn't a mental illness

>trannies attempt neurology
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>>77667974
They are using videogame as a cheap movie maker tool, thats it. Movie and videogame doesn't cause any kind of violence.

Just like sexy women in tv and Videogames don't create misogynists.

It's just an easy scapegoat for people who refuse to actually look at a complex situation with complex cause.
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>>77668024
I really like it.
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>>77667984
>Crossdressing is a fetish
See this is where I know you are a retard, because it can be: A gag, a habby, a lifestyle, or a fetish. Doesn't mean its all those things all the time.
>Depression isn't a mental illness
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>>77667984
>>77667993
look at this bad asses typin it up behind the keyboard like they were big men or something.

like i said, regardless of your shitter logic your still pretty emotionally weak if your that insecure about pithy little hints of maybe being trans maybe not being. you dont know nor will you ever you dopey cunts

how fucking reactionary are you clods?
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>>77668043
lol if you don't think media has a psychological affect on the people exposed to it (including the both of us btw) you're pretty naive

>They are using videogame as a cheap movie maker tool, thats it
really misinformed tbqh
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>>77668091
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>>77668042
>Just because I identify as an owlbear doesn't make me an owlbear.
Indeed, as it is impossible fro a human to develop the brain of an imaginary animal.

It has been proven, on the other hand,through peer review that
1. the brain is a gendered organ
2. Brain scan show that trans have developed brain of the opposite gender.

>>Major Depressive Disorder isn't a mental illness
Depression isn't classified as a mental illness. I am not the one making the rule. Mental illness has a very clear definition, and neither depression nor being a trans fit in.

>>trannies attempt neurology
The gender of the brain is a whole field of neurology. Look it up, it's quite interesting.
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>>77668104
i know right? i love trying to talk about gems but then having to defend someones right to fuckin exist. its a blast!
>>
SO STEVEN UNIVERSE IS A PRETTY GOOD SHOW
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>>77668099
>media has a psychological affect on the people exposed to it (including the both of us btw) you're pretty naive
New organisation can have an impact. Work of fiction doesn't. Precisely because the audience know that it is fiction. and treat it as such.
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>>77668091
So angry
So stupid
It's like summer never left
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>>77668134
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>>77668082
>>Depression isn't a mental illness
It's not. Don't look at me.
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>>77668143
YEAH GEMS N SHIT
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>>77668091
Why are you quoting >>77667984
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>>77668149
hate to break it to you pal but ur not as smart as u think u are
>>
steven "hot dog" universe

holy jeez
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>>77668082
>ee this is where I know you are a retard, because it can be: A gag, a habby, a lifestyle, or a fetish
None of what I am saying exclude any of this.
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>>77668125
>the brain is a gendered orgran
>MDD isn't a mental illness

I've seen some retards on /co/, but goddamn if only the worst of them would come from the SU fandom.
>>77668143
I still have to get around to watching it sometime. Animation looks pretty neat. Are all the seasons solid or is there a point where it peaked and went downhill like most shows?
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>>77668155
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>>77668191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94BH9k_7a8
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>>77668200
I am at least smarter than people who blame videogame for violence or misogyny.
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>>77668134
You do exist, it's just not an existence grounded in reality.
Also you end up looking like Rocky Dennis if you keep taking those hormones not meant for you.
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>>77668209
The style depends a lot on the storyboarders and the animation is kinda shitty in some parts. But it gets better in later episodes.
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>>77666666
>and why should we hire you?
>I guessed my own post number on an anonymous imageboard
>you start tomorrow!
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>>77668209
>>the brain is a gendered orgran
>>MDD isn't a mental illness
>I've seen some retards on /co/, but goddamn if only the worst of them would come from the SU fandom.
Yes, the brain is gendered, this is a scientific, peer-reviewed fact. And Depression isn't classified as a mental illness. Schizophrenia is.
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>>77668209
>Are all the seasons solid or is there a point where it peaked and went downhill like most shows?

it just keeps getting better honestly

mostly thanks to them finally introducing a gem that isn't a garbage rock
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>>77668208
Only you did by labeling it as a fetish
Everything CAN be a fetish, but that doesn't mean everything IS a fetish
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>>77668209
All episodes made by Hello "the yellow menace" jo are bad aside from Watermelon Steven and Monster buddies.

Luckily she was replaced in the second season.
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>>77668200

You should stop typing like a fucking tumblrtard
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>>77668281
>Only you did by labeling it as a fetish
I made no exclusion.
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>>77668229
no you're just picking a side instead of looking at it objectively
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>>77668286
Who are the new boarders in S2 apart from Zuke?
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>>77667984
>Crossdressing is a fetish
>>77668295
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>>77668290
They're doing it on purpose.
Stop fucking responding you idiot.
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>>77668290
does my typing bother u? maybe u should go back to le reddit maybe?
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>>77668332
What ever happened to gaia anyways? They used to be our antithesis.
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/co/ objectively worst board and if not then objectively worst at /su/ threads at the very least.
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>>77668299
I am looking at it objectively. An nothing has ever related violence with videogame.

Fuck, it doesn't even correlate. you can make no pattern between access to videogames in countries and their crimerate.
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>>77668360

It's still there, making a fuckton of cash from selling pixel clothes
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>>77668315
See? no exclusion.
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>>77668332
nice meme response kid did you learn that from your two years shit posting experience?
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>>77668259
>this is a scientific, peer-reviewed fact.

Uh huh. You might want to look more into that and maybe check out sources that don't sexually identify as potato.
>And Depression isn't classified as a mental illness. Schizophrenia is.

And read a psych book while you're at it.
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>>77668360
Tumblr has replaced Gaia in this way
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There are no mental illnesses. :^)

Psychiatrists are evil nazis in it only for the money.
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>>77668385
>Imply blanket statements aren't exclusionary
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>>77668366
Fuck Albania, amirite?
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>>77668360
I'm assuming everyone who would be using gaia in 2015 has just come over here to 4chan instead. This place is pretty much edgy gaia anyway with all the preteens running around
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>>77668436
Yes and no. Gaia was dumb wapanese/weeaboos (although now this apparently acceptable here thanks to the otakool plague infecting /a/ and /v/) who think they found the home for their "type", while tumblr is a collection of special snowflakes who think they're all the chosen one.

Same thing but different.
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>>77668497
your such a fucking retard this whole site is based on weebs look who made it.

look what it was based on.

get fucked
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>>77668396
my dad taught me to only use meme responses on meme posts
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>>77668530
>based on weebs
>doesn't even know what weeaboo means

Wanna know how I know you're new?
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>>77668262
Peridot is literally the worst character in the show, and the latest episodes (specifically those centered around her) were difficult to watch.

I'd honestly take some Amythyst episodes over that green piece of blatant comic relief.
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It's just now occurred to me that /co/ is actually easier to trigger than tumblr. I mean I get if people thing Steven Universe is Progressive SJW garbage, but I don't get why any thread even loosely SU based ends up people arguing politics.
I don't give a shit about crossdressing, or trans people, or lesbians, or any of that shit. If it triggers you, Fine. If it doesn't, Cool. But being assblasted about it because you do or don't like it is a waste of everyone time. Jesus christ.
You all know damn well you're not gonna change each other's minds.
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>>77668417
Every source. say that there are physiological differences between a male and female brain, as well as different tendency of brain activity.

As for depression, it's classified as a disorder, not a disease.
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>>77668563
like i give a fuck at this point to stay current with your shit culture i've been lurking this site longer than you.
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>>77668497
>>77668530
>>77668563
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>>77668452
They aren't.
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Don't forget people claim she is Pink Diamond even though it's confirmed that she's actually a Quartz and that it was stupid to think anything else.
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>>77668572
Amethysts is more comic relief than peridot is though.
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>>77668604
>Uses a blanket statement to infers it is always such
>thus excluding it can be soley something else
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>>77668804
>>Uses a blanket statement to infers it is always such
>always
Nope. It simply indicate a generality or a strong tendency.
Also, always doesn't mean exclusively.
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>>77668786
Her standalone episodes are more serious.
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>>77669083
all 2 of them
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>>77666666
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i love hot dogs...
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>>77666666
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>>77667948
We heard you the first time man, stop.
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are we back to talking about gem facts?

where do we start?
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>>77670063
Pearl is salty as fuck holy shit.
But she's best gem.
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>>77666666
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>>77670119
the best part is that you can buy in bulk when it comes to her.

if the sounds get to be a little too much just turn up the radio.
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>>77660323

It's not my place to convince you that there's something wrong with pumping and dumping random people like a pleasure-seeking sociopath. Perhaps one day he'll realize that myopic, self-focused instant gratification is the cause of distrust and cruelty between people, and that hedonism degrades the relationships between people, encouraging attachment to transient, material pleasures that ultimately leave both the individual and the society of which he is a part a sense only of pervasive emptiness and loneliness. Casual sex is consumer culture played out on the interpersonal scale.
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>>77670195
That's the best part of her.
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>>77657968
>getting annoyed by pretentiousness
>using SU as an example

I don't know what this is called, but I'm savoring it all the same.

>>77659876
Oh Jimmy, give us this day our daily kek.
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Those Wander Over Yonder fans who ship Wander and Hater are the worst. Not only do they think their ship is true, they also get extremely butthurt whenever it's tampered with in any way.

When an episode aired that had Wander fooling Hater into making a big wedding-like celebration for Wander and Sylvia's death, rabid fans attacked the staff on Tumblr for "making fun of their ship". They did it again when they gave Hater a love interest that wasn't Wander in a later episode.
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How can they say that gems have no gender when Rose got pregnant, and how can they say they don't age when they were portrayed younger in the flash back?
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>>77663077
>>77663092

You tell those slut-shaming shitlords! If you only have sex with your wife or husband, that means you just don't like sex!
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>>77670602

Gender is a result of genes, which gems do not have.

Gem ages are an illusion because they don't have biological cells, they can look as young or as old as they like. In that case it was mainly the clothes, though.
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>>77670602
Rose could've impregnated a human if she wanted to with gem alien dick.
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>>77670705
But then how was Steven able to germinate into a fetus within a rock?
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>>77666666
NIGGAS THINK I'M RYU MIXED WITH KEN WHEN I UPPERCUT
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>>77670733

We don't know the specifics. If I had to guess, Steven's body is semi-holographic and is kept coherent by his mother's gem.
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>>77666241
>We see it all of the time
We've seen it a total of twice, both times among the CGs, who are considered weirdos by Gem society.
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>>77670518
Those who live and die by the shippers are doomed to repeat them, or something.
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>>77670239
Dear god, it's just people enjoying sex. The important part is to remain honest about it and not fool your parner in thinking there is more about it than that, yet allow your feeling to develop beyond the simple enjoyment of sex is some if you and your partner feel there could be more. (also wear protection)

It's no more wrong than enjoying an ice cream. The thing is, no matter what, sex remain a social interaction, a form of intimate communication. An as valid way to meet and enter in contact with new people as any other, as long as all is done in consensuality.

Just like every pleasure in this world, the problem fcome from excss, not from the practice itself.
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hmm
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HMMM
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>>77670602
>>77670733

Rose had a gender/sex because after extensive study possibly dissections she understood the human body enough to shapeshift herself into a moderately functioning human woman, with a functioning womb.

The only problem with that was that no matter what she did to supply the fetus with nutrients, no egg means no baby.
I'm not sure what the fuck Steven is.


Like...fuck man I don't know.
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>>77667821

As a person who first heard about Steven Universe through /pol/, I went in expecting it to be bad (though not so overtly as /pol/ suggests.) While I do think that the views of the creators are represented in the show, I don't think that they are any more so than in most media. I really like SU for having such a positive message in general and it's a solidly written show with entertaining characters. Maybe there is some layer of acceptance agenda to it at some level, but it is a good show first and foremost.

My sole complaint is the not-so-subtle sexuality of fusion dances.
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>>77669167
>wrestling one
>little butler one
>kindergarden one
>vidalia one
>peridot one
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>>77662433
That's horrifying
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>>77670119
That's now how you spell Garnet.
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>>77670602
Well, they have shapeshifting powers apparently sophisticated enough to mimic biological processes, so presumably rose quartz could of chosen to get a human pregnant instead.

The aging thing can be explained by garnet, pearl, and amethyst relying on rose as a mother figure, so when rose died and they had to take care of a child they "mentally" grew up and chose new forms to represent that.
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>>77672102
>garnet
>not a petty mary sue with a personally of a bag of potatos

lapis the best gem also peridot before she got demoted.
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>>77672862
>Well, they have shapeshifting powers apparently sophisticated enough to mimic biological processes, so presumably rose quartz could of chosen to get a human pregnant instead.


this implies they can make genes(protein)
and not incubate it. so this would make the gems functionally female.
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>>77665905
This goofy fucker.
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>>77672865

I want Lapidot to become canon, because it will piss off soooo many people.
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>>77672965
I'd say they're more like hermaphrodites if you want to be technical, but I don't think you should really even apply terms like this to shapeshifters in the first place.
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>>77657968
who the fuck doesn't think that fat slut is a whore?
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>>77673197
autist and trolls.
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>>77672965
>to get a human pregnant instead

No, she couldn't have. Gems don't have DNA, for one. Second, Steven is basically just a clone of Greg that Rose incubated inside herself, then transferred her gem to.

He isn't so much a child of the two as he is a reincarnation of one into a squishy meat jacket.
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WE
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>>77672865
>Lapisfags judging any other waifu's personality or lack thereof
that's a laff
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>>77666666

Be patient, anon. There's plenty of GETS left to shit up.
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>>77657968

desu, op, I always assumed that in the thousands of years on earth that Rose has been running around kicking ass, she's loved and boned her away across the globe.

Steven's existence isn't just a product of sex, it's something much more magical in nature. Rose can't get "pregnant" the same way that humans can. But she "did" and she "gave birth." The gem species is confusing and they do a pretty good job of not quite highlighting stuff like this (but why would they? no fan HAS to know what happens to all the food that Amethyst eats, for example)

Steven is a product of love. I think, from what we've seen, gems are all about emotions and love and trust. Steven's powers are activated by his emotions. Every little sensation for gems is cranked up to eleven.

And, ugh, I can't believe I'm having this conversation, but even if Rose has had sex before, just having sex isn't going to make a gem pregnant. And just being in love isn't either. Rose got pregnant because Rose wanted to get pregnant.
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>>77666666
Nice scripting there bucko.
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Oh christ january can't come fast enough

it feels like an eternity since the damn arc we were on was interrupted

we're literally four episodes from the mid-season finale
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>>77668604
They are when you word them like that
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>>77674852

>Yellow Diamond's eyes always let off a disconcerting glow
>she's always wide-eyed and basically forces eye contact with whomever she's talking to
>she never blinks
>like, ever

Bitch freaks errybody out all the time. Spoopy like a ghost pumpkin full of skellingtons on Halloween.
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>>77666666
Well fucking played.
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>>77675173
>She bends down so her face is right in Steven's
>I always loved you Rose
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>>77663837
Treated as a joke but received as progressive.
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>>77657968
those kinds of people are insane
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>>77657968
She has spent over 5000 years on earth, anon. It was going to happen SOMETIME unlike with yourself
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>>77664037
TV Trope or trope in general=/= TvTropes

dude do you even know what a trope is? do you even TV? do you even analize stuff?
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>>77668311
I think Egomatter's on it now
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>>77674712
>implying I have any idea how computers work
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>>77677876
As if that was to be proud of.
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>>77666666
Congratulation.
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>>77668573
Exactly this
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>>77664941
Well considering the style of dance Garnet is based off of its pretty common.
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>>77670518
You're generalizing an entire fan are based on the acts of a few. I've been keeping up with the fandom and I didn't see anything about people blowing up over the Big Day. And a couple of people dropped the show when Dominator was introduced but the concensus from recent threads is that people were mad because she's less of a character and more of a plot device, not that their ship got sunk.
It's silly to generalize a fan base though.
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>>77657968

It's called autism anon
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>>77666666
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>>77657968
That's one big ass bitch.
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>>77678557
LOL I'M GOOD AT REAL LIFE NERD XD

I usually pick things up really quickly I just haven't tried. That would take effort.
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you're all a bunch of faggots

when thoughts of you enter your parent's minds, they're immediately hit with pangs of disappointment
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>>77666666
How... how is this possible?
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>>77666530
This post settles the fucking debate. But you niggas just want to brawl.
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>>77666530
Wow, it's true. I don't feel like hating SU anymore.
Just kidding, it's still shit.
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>>77657968
1: When did "Word of God" contradict that?

2: Who cares what other people think? If they have their headcanon, let them. It's about your own experience. Listening to the experiences of others can inform your own, but only in as far as you let them.
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>>77668572
Peridot and Amethyst are both pretty young gems, of course they're going to fumble every now and then and for comic relief. I like where they're taking Peri's character, but hopefully she can be less useless to the CGs soon.
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>>77668125
>2. Brain scan show that trans have developed brain of the opposite gender.
What a full on retard.
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>>77668091
Calm down Peri, it's time for your nap.
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>>77663067
far left pls
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>>77677396
She's only a storyboard reviser though. Although Zuke worked on that before actually starting to board episodes, so who knows.
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>>77658009
not loved, just humans that stuck with her and humor her, nothing more than a pet, as edgy as ir sounds
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>>77670518
>rabid fans attacked the staff on Tumblr for "making fun of their ship".

Literally only one tumblr user did that, and she was an ESL Ruskie. Fucking idiot.
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>>77658059
Death of the Author means that the the work stands on its own and that arguments about authorial intent are pointless. The text exists independent of its authorship; readers are meant to consume the text without filtering it through the context of its author. ie; Authorfag says Book is about depression, but Book is widely recognized to be about the futility of the American Dream--no one gives a shit what the author insists on and they shouldn't, because the text exists independent of its creator.


Not really relevant here; people are arguing their interpretations of the text--Sucrose hasn't weighed in and even if she has, what she has to say should not influence how people experience the text itself.
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>>77687655
To add to your point, another useful concept would be that of "tiers of canon" or "levels of canon". The source material, in this case the show itself, would be Tier 1 canon. Statements made by the show's staff and dubiously canon supplemental material would be Tier 2 canon. Discussions should be made within the confines of being on the same level of canon, so as to have everyone agree that their arguments only work for that canon.
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This show would be better if Lapis cried more often.
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>>77688317
>none of the Homeworld gems have ever cried before

It's about time already. I thought this show was about crying.
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>>77688340
I bet Lapis cries pretty
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>>77688406
Is there anything that Lapis cares about anymore? Because I want to break it in front of her!
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>>77673197
Greg is fucking used goods. What a beta.
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It's EXTREMELY strongly implied Rose has cavorted with other humans before Greg. She flat-out says she's "loved" other humans before, tells Greg he's awfully cute and she'd really like to "play" with him but she can't allow him to throw away his short life and dreams because he's with her (implying that someone else has spent their life romantically pining after Rose), sings very seductively about how she likes the way human beings play and how she likes "playing along", her tone of voice on the "oh yees" to Greg's "these last months have been great" is clearly seductive or insinuates sexual happenings, and most importantly the other Gems aren't surprised at all at the romantic developments between Rose and Greg. Pearl is just jealous, but not "what are you doing" shocked, she just says that Greg and their romance is just a phase, as if she's seen it before. Amethyst says that "this one is her favourite", to which Pearl replies "I think he's her favourite, too", again implying there's been romance before.

At this point, it's much more likely Rose has at some point over the millennia she's spent on earth gotten curious about the sex humans seem to be raving about, than not. Unless there's a direct statement saying otherwise, and there doesn't seem to be one
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>>77683282
It's been shit since the pilot.
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>>77688674
So in other words, Greg's a beta who had to fuck a white just to lose his virginity.
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>>77688674
What a fucking slut.
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>>77688728
You do have to admit that the pilot was worse than the show in general, though.
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>>77688865
Steven was way better in the pilot.
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>>77664120
So if you can't prove that someone fucked it automatically means they didn't? I thought it just means that you don't know either way.
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>>77688790
Just like Lapis!
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Any chance that we will see Steven fusing with a Gem next year?
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>>77689181
95%. A year is a lot of episodes.
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>>77689181
Not with his consent.
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>>77689181
it's not a question of 'if', but 'who'
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>>77689286
You mean who he'll fuse with first? Who do you think it'll be?
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>>77664556
oh no! not the homestuck! not the homestuck! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! OH NO MY EYES!
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>>77689314
I'd guess Peridot or Centipeetle.

>>77689315
Quit typing like a faggot.
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>>77689314
I'd like to say Pearl as that's probably the most speculated fusion, but it really could be anyone by this point, even Peridot is possible
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>>77689207
well ideally. CN loves pointless hiatuses. Not as much as Disney or Nick do.
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>>77689362
CN aired 27 new episodes in 2014 and 38 episodes in 2015. Taking us through the next 31 or so episodes until the end of season 2 next year seems like more than enough time for Steven to fuse with a gem at the pace the plot has been going.
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>>77689343
>>77689350
I still think that he would fuse with Pearl first, considering we've already seen her and Rose fusing.
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>>77657968
Gems can fuck without getting pregnant, She shapeshifted a womb Ian said so, so she prolly fucked Abe Lincoln for all we know.
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>>77689350
>>77689493
I don't know, it would be really weird if Pearl was he first Gem that he fused with.
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>>77688887
Everyone was better in the pilot.
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>>77689524
So does that make Greg a c u c k?
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