Jessica Jones Live talkback thread #6

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>there are people on this board who didn't grow up with It's Patsy!

Autist here. Was Jessica serious when she said there were 99 people with super powers

>>77629722
>Live talkback
What the fuck is this supposed to mean?

>>77629786

No. It was to scare the woman off. The only people she knows is Luke & Killgrave.

>>77629817
who gives a shit just go with the flow

>>77629817

It means you talk while watching with others.

I finished it last night.

I can safely say I went on and off and on again feeling sorry for the sister-incest twin.

My empathy meter for her ranged from absolute hatred to actual tears of sadness.

I thought the girl twin would freak out more and run to the cops. It seemed unrealistic her going along with Jess & Marlon.

>>77629877

It would be redundant since Kilgrave mind controlled the cops into letting her go and forgetting the charges.

Show was pretty good. Great villain.

Posted on the opinion thread, but.....

Watching through again, why are some of the effects so absolute shit-tier? The bus hitting Kilgrave in episode 2? The way it flips over is fucking comical.

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>All that butthurt on /tv/

I wanted that lesbian lawyer woman to have a happy ending with her mistress. Sad it didn't work out.

What happened to the guy he told to screw himself?

>>77629960
Netflix show's have a low budget

>>77629786
She barely has one friend, no way she has 99.

>>77630022
Either her tried to put a screw in himself or he tried to stick his dick in his asshole. Or he just masturbated.

>>77629960
I was more put off by the sound editing.
Examples like talking in fight scenes with stunt doubles. It was very poorly dubbed over the scene and stuck out.

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>>77630016

Jessica Jones taught me that Lesbians are usually fucking evil and need to die.

Get mad stay mad /lgbt/

>>77630136
Or twist himself up like a screw.

>>77630179
Fun fact: Lesbian relationships have a higher rate of abuse than both straight or gay relationships.

>>77630179
But Wendy and Pam did nothing wrong.

incest redhead girl was pretty cute in a weird way

>>77630179
Smack My Bitch Up should have taught you that years ago, anon

>>77630294
Wendy was kind of a bitch. Pam was second best girl and deserved a happier ending.

>>77629960
Every time she does one of her cute little jumps I giggle like a child for the next few seconds.

>>77629995
Holy shit I just went to /tv/ out of curiosity and it's worse than I remember

I wish they didn't telegraph the twists so hard like Will bring suspicious of Malcolm not too long before it's revealed that he's under Kilgrave's control, or making absolutely sure you know that his powers last longer right before it's revealed Luke is under his control

>>77629862
She was a bitch

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>>77630347

Pam was still fucking evil. She was just hot so you were willing to let her get away with more.

Pic related

>My disgusted yet aroused face when Pam says she's attracted to her bitchiness and powermongering.

>>77630418
There was a /pol/ invasion when the first Star Wars trailer was released. It's beyond saving now.

>>77630454

I still felt sorry for her. She just wanted her brother back.

She was a jealous incestuous bitch, but she didn't deserve what happened at all.

>>77630465
How is that bad? There's nothing evil about having a type. Pam did nothing wrong.

>>77629722
Ya'll nigga wanna have a general thread so bad.

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>>77630418
>>77629995
I want to post the SJW twitter joy just to piss them off. That board has become literal trash.

I wish Matt or Foggy got a cameo.

When Jessica found out where Kilgrave lived on top of the building with the glass ceiling. She could have just left, got a gun, came back and shot him in the head without him seeing her.

Cool easter eggs you've found?
>the Jewel outfit
>White Tiger name drop
>Stan Lee photo

>>77630558

>worst character is a white guy

Yea, but playing that character must have been fun.

On the rewatch I'm noticing that Ritter is just doing exposition dialogue a lot in a way Charlie Cox never did. I dunno if it's her fault or the writing.

>>77629722
rip banana bread guy, best character

>>77630598
How was the Jewel outfit an easter egg? It wasn't hidden or anything, Trish just straight showed it and talked about her being a hero who should wear it for like 2 minutes.

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>>77630598
>Jewel is a stipper's name, a real slutty stripper

Nuke did nothing wrong. #NukeWasRight

>>77630784
Do you have better examples of easter eggs?

>>77629786
Do you think she has laser eyes, too?

>>77630558
>I don't think it's a coincidence that the worst character is a white guy
That's a funny way of saying Jessica Jones

purple man is alive right? somehow right? is Tennant too expensive? could daredevil sense the pheromones and have a different approach?

>>77630525
She made no sense. She was happily fucking Jeryn while she was married then while the divorce was proceeding she became this huge cunt that put stipulations on their relationship hinging on her being completely divorced, and being a bigger cunt to the woman she was married to for years because 'that's the woman she fell in love with'.
It sent her on the spiral that led to her trying to use Jessica to strong-arm her ex then trying to use Kilgrave to the same end, which made one of them dead and the other in jail and Jeryn with nothing but a redemption story through Danny Rand when Iron Fist comes.

is this shows actually good or is is everyone here just marvel drones?

>>77630812
GM no. Don't put a beam saber through your face. I love you.

>>77630465
>>77630525
meh, Jeri was the stupid cunt

Pam was allright, taste in women aside

>>77630928
It's the very definition of mediocre

>>77630890
Only stipulation she put was that she wouldn't marry her before she was completely divorced.

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>>77629722
The Russians in DD and now Simpson inn JJ why is the side characters so much better than the main character?

>>77630928
Its pretty good. Stayed up all night til 9am watching it.

>>77630928
I'm about halfway through. Nothing has been as strong as the first episode yet, but its still good. Killgrave is a compelling villain. Cage is good. Trish is hot. I like Jessica, but she's the sort of character that not everyone will be into.

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Just finished

Things I didn't know I enjoyed:
>Neo-noir
>Gumshoe shenanigans
>Ritter's butt
>Those jeans her butt was in
>Maladjusted Bitchtude Female Protagonists (this series and a manga called Teppu has me thinking that this character archetype needs more love)
>Live action Luke Cage
>Milfs from the Matrix
>Sweet Christmas
>The "artistic" gentleman in the OP
>Banana bread
>Mop headed side kicks
>Villains that are immature, psychopathic, and generally confused about life

Things I didn't know I disliked:
>Buddy cops reveal they are former spec ops and currently bootleg super soldiers
>Excessive childhood flashbacks
>Flashbacks that insult the viewer's intelligence by slowing down scenes
>Zooming in on important details that were obvious by simply using the cognitive skill of an eight year old
>Sweet Christmas
>Lull episodes that calm the tension between intense moments (seriously, a 20min break is fine, but a 48min one is pushing it)


All in all, I give this an objective 7.5/10 where Daredevil was a 7/10. It had its flaws, but it turned out to be a solid piece of entertainment.

As for the Purple man not being purple, I'll say this: HAHA, NERDS. No, seriously, it did not affect the narrative in the slightest.

>>77630971
I'd agree with this but also add that if you go in wanting Marvel street level capeshit, you won't be disappointed.

>>77630855
Daredevil has one approach and one approach only: Beat the shit out of it.

>>77631049
>Better than Daredevil
Objectively no

>>77631049
>>Ritter's butt
>>Those jeans her butt was in
yuuuuuuuup

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>>77629722
I was actually really compelled to binge watch... up until the quarter or so of the show. Not that I didn't want to watch it, but the same relentless drive wasn't there. Kilgrave gets captured and escapes one too many times, I feel. The whole thing with the support group felt really contrived, and fuck that twin sister. Malcolm turned out great, I felt bad about Rubin, even, but she was just an annoying cunt. I know that was her character, but her comic relief was grating.

It felt a bit too scattershot at times. Like, the stuff with the divorce and Simpson/Nuke eventually got tied in, thankfully, but for a while it'd seem like a total distraction.

On the other hand, I thought Ritter was great I still want Jessie's girl and Tennant stole every fucking scene he was in. I was skeptical going in, but he sold me. The scene in the police station alone was fucking great.

I wish we got more "Jessica tries to direct Kilgrave to good" really. That alone seems like a premise to an entire series.

Also, the fight scenes were a real step down from Daredevil. It's super strength and not ninjas, yeah, but there's just too much picking up and throwing guys over and over and over.

I'd probably put my rating at 8/10, or maybe a 7/10. Still really good, and I'm real hopeful for Luke Cage.

>>77630928
It's good but had some problems. For example:
One guy controlled coincidentally happens to be a black ops super soldier
Immune to his powers for now reason.
Characters treat Simpson like a bad guy before he actually does bad things like retroactively justifying the characters treatment of him.
Not much action/fight scenes.
Technical shortcomings with graphics, sound, editing etc.

Overall enjoyable and a decent watch with good things to counter those bad.

>>77631049
Nuke was one of the best parts

>tfw we'll never get a Netflix Hawkguy
It's such a shame he got sucked into Avengers movies. There's nothing interesting for him to do there and they've only hurt his character. I don't like Renner that much in the role, either, but that might just be me.

>>77631049
You put Sweet Christmas under both. Explain.

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>>77630558
>worst character is a white guy

That twin sister was a cunt, mate, but I don't think calling her a man is the way to go.

>>77630855

Daredevil could probably sense the pheremones, and he'd have an advantage if he knew that Purple Man could control minds from witness accounts and such.

Jessica Jones didn't really make very good tactical movies.

The fact that she didn't have a secret base of operations made things pretty difficult for her. There's a reason why Daredevil hides all his shit.

>But he kne

Masks are important.

>>77631276
kek

>>77631364
what would purple man taste/smell like to daredevil?

>>77630961

Did anyone else get confused near the end and think Jeri's wife was Kilgraves mom?

>>77631237
>Wanting Fraction's Hawkguy bullshit
You're a part of the problem

>>77631488

He'd probably smell odd, which would lead Daredevil to either get spooked and take a stealthy approach, or back off and try to figure out more about him.

Depending on how many people he was threatening at the moment.

>>77631237
>retcon mcu!Clint into Barney?
>hawkguy is new guy

>>77631488
Grape

>>77631488
Grape.

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+ Trish is the qt to end all qt's (those leggings hnnngggh)
+ David Tennant was great

+/- Luke Cage?

- Boring lesbian scenes hardly related to the plot
- Jessica Jones was an unlikable bitch
- Effects were shit
- Really odd plotlines (hurr I'm going to try and kill you because the Avengers crushed my mom/ durr take me to superjail so Kilgrave can find me)
- Bad effects
- Bad acting all around except Trish and Kilgrave

Struggling to come up with positives, but I still felt inclined to watch every episode.
Solid 5/10 I guess. Probably will never watch again.

>>77631557
It was a good book, bro. It also lends itself fairly well to the format and I want Kate.

Plus do you really think it would be any worse than what they've done with Hawkeye so far, or whatever the fuck they're planning to do when they get into cosmic shit?

>>77631228
I'll be honest with you, I enjoyed the direction that it went but it was such a detour. The best way I can explain this is through an analogy with the Mass Effect series. Mass Effect 2, my favorite, was an honest to goodness deviation in the plot's advancement. It was an interesting aside, but beyond that it was kind of a scenic route that could have been skipped.

I just felt that Nuke gave off the whole "tacked on for season 2 fun and games" vibe. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed him and all, but the way his character evolved contrasted with the noir tone of the show. It was almost campy while the show tried to be serious.

I do look forward to more of him, though. I feel like there is a lot of potential there.

>>77631257
It was both funny and a respectful gesture to the fans. But, at the same time, it needed a stronger delivery. I wasn't expecting a cringe worthy outburst, just a little more emoting. That was all.

Still, like I said, I enjoyed the show. Netflix appears to be competent with these things.

>>77631488
like rape

Just one question, I'm on episode 5. Does Daredevil make a cameo?

>>77631810
Night Nurse does, and she offers to call DD.

>>77631810
He helps her take down Kilgrave in the finale.

Neurotic Incest waifu

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>>77631623
>>77631644

>>77631651
have you seen two lesbians fucking irl? they spend more time shouting at you and throwing shit at you then actually fucking

>>77631853
Wish he was the public defender they kept trying to offer

>>77631898
Best girl

>>77631934
I was sort of hoping Trinity would recommend Murdock to defend Hope when Jessica asked.

Disapointed there's no overt iron fist references aside from Jeri or even a Murdock cameo

>>77632043
Show was really low on references.

It's nice to see the actor who played the Red Ranger in RPM is still acting

>>77632043
I was hoping for Luke to reminisce about his hero days. Say something about how he was in it with his friend and had a tiara. Can't believe I missed Jerry Hogarth until now

>>77632126
he was actually pretty good in this

After having watched this, should I read some Jessica Jones stuff or is the show much better than the comics

>>77631685

someone post the gif of clint shooting hank at strucker

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Oh god, I went to /tv/

Pic related is my fucking favorite grab from there

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>>77632193

>>77630598
Photo?

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>>77632267

Thanks Batman!

>>77632300
The same in Daredevil.

>>77630977

>Don't risk my career
>But you have to divorce her before I do anything with you
>But you have no dirt on her, so you need to get dirt on her

>>77632205
holy fuck

>>77632478
The horseshoe political spectrum theory is a load of horseshit, it's actually a circle. The racists have gone full on tumblr.

>>77632205

that is some serious insecurity right there...spoopy

>>77629786
guess that makes her the 1 bitch

>>77630581
when they were talking about Hope and how jeri was such a bitchy lawyer, i was honestly expecting someone to bring up the and coming Nelson & Murdock firm as a potential replacement.

it's nice that we at least get claire though

>>77630762
He was a simple man. All he needed in life was his bitch sister, his bitch neighbor and banana bread.

>>77631175
>Immune to his powers for no reason.
I think the reason Jessica was immune is because of pure mental willpower. It's the only explanation when you consider Albert couldn't make a vaccine with Jessica's blood sample.

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>>77632733

banana....eggs...flour...crack...and nutmeg

your free now reuben....

>>77630762
i felt so bad for him. you know it's gonna happen but it still hits hard

Started watching today, I'm nearly done. Fuck this incestuous sister, literally the worst. I can see why someone remarked how she's confirmation that MCU citizens are as dumb as 616 citizens.

>>77632827

Maybe because she was controlled consistantly for so long as well, not a natural resistance build up, but more of a trained resistance, like to get around it you need strong willpower and the mental experience of trying to fight it?

thats how i figure she did it, then once she knew she could it was easy because her brain just knew how

I thought it was a good show with a shitty ending. The buildup was so good and then it just....ends.

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>>77632856
that fucking scene

>>77632205
Funny yet really sad.

>>77632905
yeah accounting the amount of time she got controlled makes sense too. i think it was a little over a year, right? the shock of killing reva must have snapped her out of his control and then after that her immunity kicked in.

>>77632180
I like the comics better, but if you're triggered by Bendisspeak you might not dig it. It's definitely one of his best series, though.

>>77632902

at least its realistic

So.....who thinks Kilgrave isn't dead

>>77632925
This so fucking much. The ending was shit

>>77630311
She's Theon Greyjoy in a wig

>>77633028
He's dead, she snapped his neck and his powers immediately wore off.

>>77632205
>Why couldn't Luke have a cool write bro or something?

Because the show is called Jessica Jones, not Luke Cage. And Iron Fist isn't out yet.

>>77633037
It was like the harry potter books. Great buildup to a final confrontation and then nothing.

>>77632925

I just dont think the ending was big enough, with how the built that power boost...I wanted some epic mind control going on in the end there

also what a waste of good purpleman

I still loved the whole thing, and was oddly more invested then I was in daredevil

both get a 10/10 would marathon again one day

>>77631904
I get it

>>77633086
He's survived worse shit in the comics

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What was the point of this shit, they were just useless filler

>>77633025
Yeah, sure was realistic running up and hitting Jessica's skull from behind with a thick column of wood.

In the beginning I thought Jessica and Trish were old/ex lovers. They should have said they were sisters.

>>77633190
It added some worldbuilding.

>>77629722
>Incest twins
I wish this stopped being shared nothing there implied any incest relationship

>>77633190
It was meant to be an entertaining and interesting plot. Like everything. Not everything has to revolve around Kilgrave.

>>77633086

I want to find ways he can be alive

I want to pull a glenn and just fan dream all day about how he made it

but this time its pretty hard to imagine, unless his power boost let him tell people to also SEE what he wanted them to see....but idk they didnt leave a door open for him to be alive outside of total bullshit

"you either live long enough to be a shitty villain, or die a legendary one" or go full vegeta or green ranger but kilgrave aint no fucking hero

>>77633223
Why would you jump to the relationship conclusion

Jumping to that just cause 2 girls are close is plain pathetic

>>77633260
But it was neither entertaining nor interesting; it lost the chance to be either once it was revealed to be some irrelevant shit for Jessica to do an exposition rant about

>>77633234
I already forgot what happened that made me think they were incest but I thought so. I'm thinking Jessica said they were into kinky stuff with eachother before they revealed that the guy was wearing a diaper, implying they were doing some kinky stuff.

>>77633223
go away Dobson

>>77633234


It was part of the joke. Jess thought they were lovers not brother and sister. They were unusually close etc

>>77633285
He could come back a quadriplegic.

>>77633317
wut

>>77633385
I think that might happen

>>77633288
They seemed too close and talked too emotionally to just be friends.
"I don't hear from you for months. 6 months actually"
"I needed breathing room"
"You shut me out"

I would never have a convo like that with just one of my friends. So not knowing they were sisters I assumed they were ex lovers.

>>77633285
They could say he gained regeneration powers that revived him from near death, but he's way too powerful to just let him run around free. Unless SHIELD is able to safely house a guy like him, nigga needs to die.

>>77633311
before that it was implied that in between loud fights they were having loud sex, but it could have just been that the sister's name calling sometimes skirted towards the kind of insults normally reserved for BDSM and Jessica disliked them too much to give the benefit of the doubt.

>>77632545
Thats pretty much 90% of the problem with /tv/ atm.

Why do you think they are so obsessed with keking over there? Its pretty much if /r9k/ and /pol/ were blended together right now.

I'm at Episode 5 now. I think it's not anywhere as good as the Daredevil series but I like it anyway. Still, it's much better than everything else by Marvel made it to the screen, that includes all their other shitty movies and series except Daredevil.
Does it get any better?

>>77633502
It finishes stronger than it starts, in my opinion.

>>77633502
Kilgrave makes the series.

>>77633502
it does, but be prepared for a shitty ending.

Just finished it, thought it was okay, nothing really special.

Highlights:
Tenant & Cage pretty much stole the show
Didn't expect to see Nuke come up at all, it was a nice surprise and set up.

Cons
JJ a shit
Jeryn a shit
Wendy a shit
Hope a shit
Crazy twins a shit
First five episodes felt like a chore to get through.
Fight scenes felt as bad or worse than the last DD fight
Effects looked like crap
Inconsistent powers (jumping in particular, she rarely fucking uses it, if she can jump and land without being injured why the fuck doesn't she jump out of half the fights)
Painfully similar to the comic character which is also a shit.

At least it's better than heroes.

>>77633571
In 5 episodes, this character is seriously lacking.
I hope they focus on him more in the following episodes, or it will be too much wasted potential there.

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>>77633385

>>77633694
Oh and character had a bad case of being fucking stupid all the time.

>>77633718
Which makes me wanna ask, are the JJ comics any good?
I mean, I keep seeing the Bendis name being thrown here n' there and I really hate what he did to the X-Men. I just don't see how he ever did any good.

>>77633696
You're almost there, anon!

>>77633718
Twelve and a half episodes for someone to think of wearing some fucking headphones..

>>77633181

yeeeeaaaah but so far in the MCU no ones survived something like this

Coulsin had a whole project dedicated to his revival, which was really just about making sure we kept Coulsin because wheden fucked up....he did it again with Peitro but idk if we can undo that one...

this aint the comics, this is the cinematic universe based on the comics, and we dont really know the rules yet because they arent 70+ years old

>>77633064
I think you mean rule 63 Ron Weasley.

>Left Kilgrave alone with Hogarth
How can she be so fucking stupid

>>77633886
>How can she be so fucking stupid

That's the theme of the show.

>>77633192

dumb shit happens....a lot

hell if media was half as real as the real world, then the inconsistent dumb ass shit that happens would be unwatchable confusing garbage...thus reality TV

>>77633886
all the smart people are too smart to believe in mind control

>>77633486
He's a lot easier to hold than Magneto. Make sure his cell has an airlock and move his food tray back and forth with pneumatics. If guards have to go near him, they do it with full hazmat suits and earplug, otherwise just have a perspex wall and a microphone in his cell.

He can attend his trial by video-camera.

>>77633886
How can Hogarth be so stupid as to let him out. Without any kind of hold over him. He could have just immediately told her to kill herself once she opened the door. She's supposed to be a genius lawyer.

>>77633991
She's a desperate sociopath.

Is it better than Supergirl?

>>77633978
OR. OR. You surgically remove his vocal chords!

>>77634030
That would probably do it also, if it doesn't count as cruel or unusual. I'm not a lawyer, I'm just pointing out that he could be held in a mundane prison with a bit of work.

>>77634020
Sociopathy is not an excuse for stupidity.

>>77634030
Or you can just try and kill him under New York state law because he's got a lot of murder, rape, and attempted murder charges.

>>77634026
I pissed a better show than Supergirl two hours ago.

>>77634026
Literally anything is better than Supergirl.

>>77634026
Supergirl is horrible and one of the worst shows out right now including non cape shows so ofcourse.

>>77634089
New York no longer has the death penalty.

>>77634108
>>77634109
Is it better than Flash?

>>77634104
>>77634108
>>77634109
i-it can't be THAT bad

>>77633028
>marvel
>villains who aren't killed off
choose one.

besides loki and kingpin, has any major marvel villain escaped dying at the end?

>>77634124
I haven't lived in NY since 2005 and don't keep up with shit there, my bad.

>>77633991
Why was she so terrible?
I never hated a character in my life no matter how many boners her actions with slut 2 made me

>>77633696
oh anon, you have no idea what you're in store for.

>>77633991
90% of your current assets plus monthly spousal support that matches the lifestyle the spouse once lived is serious, and I mean, serious business. People have murdered and committed suicide over less.

Trust me, I went to law school and I'm kind of a lawyer.

>>77634109
It's still better than the second season of Fargo, though.

>>77634030
His voice isn't the power, it's the virus. He could control people with gestures.

>>77631049
>Neo-noir
more like noir parody

>>77633500

I started on /b/ 5 years ago or so.....I came here for quieter times...its like retiring early

I tried to go to /tv/ before I came here....I mean you guys sorta freak me out a little but your mostly good...thats not the word....your alright people. /tv/ was some kind of sad I couldnt hit myself with twice in a row....I dont want to look pathetic in the face that hard ya know?

>>77634155
comparing flash to jessica jones is the same as comparing flash to daredevil. the tones of the shows are far too different to draw fair comparisons, as well as their messages.

kilgrave's stalking skills makes wells' stalking look like child's play for the record.

>>77634174
The Wachaowski's put a curse on her so Carrie-Anne Moss isn't allowed to play remotely relatable characters anymore.

>>77632925
so same as DD

>>77634232
He wasn't able to control Trish in the finale despite the improved powers because of the loud music and headphones.

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Damn, this show is kind of shitty. I don't really feel like finishing it. Marvel kind of sucks now a lot. This whole movie/show universe is lame as fuck.

This is the show that made me realize it

>>77634258
>kilgrave's stalking skills
You mean Malcom's stalking skills, right?

>>77634302
He was trying to use his voice and she wasn't looking at him. Even the dad says not to look at him, presumably for that reason.

>>77634361
Outside by the yacht she wasn't controlled either despite being in full view of him. Well, at least until her headphones got knocked off and she spent thirty seconds not putting them back on.

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>muh evil parents
>a bloo bloo bloo
getting real tired of your shit, Netflix villains

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I just finished episode 7.

That scene with Robin looking for Reuben actually got to me. Felt really bad for her, which is a first for the show.

>tfw you'll never have an obsessed dom twin sister

Patsy is waifu of the year all years
All those cute outfits

>>77634435
You'll soon come to realize that the wrong twin died.

>>77634472
>generic blonde
>waifu of any year
poor taste, anon

>>77634163
Abomination and possibly the Red Skull.

lol, bitches on tumblr are crying at how scary Kilgrave is

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>>77634494
...why not both?

>>77634498
>>generic blonde
I was hoping that taking the red pill without a resistance to the drug would have a side effect of turning her hair bright red.

>>77634544
I wonder how many "literally shaking" posts we'll be getting over the next couple of weeks.

How is Nuke used in this show?

I'm on episode 5, and while I'm enjoying it (it's not as good as Daredevil), the amount of sex in the show makes me uncomfortable.

>It's a show created by a woman
>there's sex everywhere
Typical women, sex is all they can think about.

Was it ever explained how Jessica knew Hogarth? I kept expecting it to pop up in one of the flashbacks like Malcolm did but it never happened. I guess she just happened to be one of Jessica's regular clients?

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>>77634696
>tfw watching the show with my mom

guys I just watched the one where Killgrave gave the neighbor lady the bomb. holy shit, didn't see that ending coming. i fucking hate having to go to bed with that cliffhanger, haha.

Also, Killgrave is easily the best MCU villain. I didn't think they could top Fisk, but damn.

It's a small complaint about it, but I do get frustrated that the Netflix shows have a staggering lack of crossover with other parts of the universe.

While I think that's great as it allows these heroes to shine on their own, I still want to feel like it all adds up to a larger story, especially if The Defenders is looming in the near future.

>>77634708
They briefly mention in episode 3 how Jessica approached Hogarth after several previous PIs failed to get the job done.

Justice for purple man

Is Kilgrave really dead?

>>77634544
And I'm crying over how disappointingly not scary he is.

>>77634754
I don't understand why there isn't any post credits scenes like the films. I mean I understand that Marvel is really just improvising all the Netflix shows at this point, but they really need to get it together.

>>77634796
I hope not. He's too good a baddie to have such a shitty end

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>>77634803
He's pretty scary if you're not prepared for him. If you're actually on to him and want to stop him then Kilgrave is trivially easy to stop.

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>>77634754
Why are they even calling it the Defenders when there won't be a single person from the Defenders on the team? In what way will it be the Defenders?

>>77634854
Damn that team is OP

>>77634886
They're supposed to fight supernatural forces that threaten existence itself

>>77634341
him too but seriously.

tracking down jessica's childhood home was one thing, but he fucking replicated the entire house's furnishing using photos down to the exact detail.

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>mfw he didn't turn purple after the final injection

>>77634403
kingpin's father was evil, but his mom was basically a saint.

kilgrave's parents did fucked up shit but they only did it because he would have died otherwise. they tried to make it up to him but he only cared about revenge.

So during the interviews in episode 4, were any of those references to other characters?

>>77634916
Well now I've gotta read this

>tell annoying people to shut up
>they actually shut up and don't start spewing more shit out of their rotten mouths
Where can I get Kilgrave's powers?

>>77634854
It's Heroes for Hire but they're probably not going to charge for their services so they needed a different, preferably more famous Marvel team name nobody was currently using.

>>77634519
>Abomination
will literally never show up again because Marvel doesn't have the full rights to Hulk from Universal, meaning no Hulk movie in the works.
>Red Skull
we'll have to wait until Infinity Wars to see, but for all intensive purpose i'm counting him as dead until then.

I'm guessing when Spider-Man comes out they'll give a shit enough to not murder the villain at the end, but overall Marvel is too fucking lazy to make credible long-term villains.

>>77630288
I believe it. My mom fought with her girlfriend a few times, and she in turn fought with the girlfriend before my mom more times than anybody cared to count. And both of those relationships were fairly happy and stable, relatively speaking.

>>77635035
It's nothing like Heroes for Hire either though

>>77634403
And yet they are both still infinitely better than any villain that the MCU movies have put out.

>>77631904
Ugh, patchouli and purple drank.

>>77634854
> In what way will it be the Defenders?
Hellcat is right there man.

>>77635088
It's "Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and a couple random friends". How is that not a summary of Heroes for Hire? What, are you gonna try and sell me on the idea that Misty and Colleen are crucial to the core concept?

>>77635038
>Marvel is too fucking lazy to make credible long-term villains.

When each installment of a series comes out once every 2+ years you can't really have long-term villains.

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>>77635089
>yfw kingpin and kilgrave are more menacing villains than ultron and loki, despite the latter two being a robot and a god respectively

its was pretty good
nowhere near as good as daredevil, but still good
that last scene was fucking disappointing, kilgrave went out like a bitch, none of the contingency plans he had beforehand in literally every encounter
far too much sex in the first few episodes as well, kinda offputting
nuke was GOAT

>>77635173
>dat autist meat hand strength on Fisk tho

Nuke is the real hero, if they let him do his thing the show would be over in 4 episodes

>>77635158
the villains don't need to keep showing up, but it's lazy to just have them die at the end.

and long-term villains can be done. loki was the primary antagonist for Thor and Avengers, while being a secondary antagonist in Thor 2

>>77635243
The only time he had anything even remotely resembling a chance was the basement bomb.

>>77635146
Misty and Colleen are indeed integral aspects of Heroes for Hire. Taking away the mercenary aspect of the group takes away one of its defining features as well.

>>77635212
to be fair, your waifu's love is a powerful drug.

>>77635243
If they left him alone he would have been dead because he would have walked off the top of the building.

>>77635315
I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree. To me, Heroes for Hire is Luke and Danny, full-stop. Anything else is an accessory or a misuse of the title.

>>77635302
Also when he could have shot Killgrave but Jess jumped him away

>>77635260
>lazy
*satisfying
That's the biggest problem with cape movies nowadays. Always have to keep the villains and be devoid of impactful conclusion.

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>>77635243
Please tell me he's gonna be in DD S2. That would be awesome as fuck.

When are we getting DD S2 anyways?

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I like the show, but having a saxophone in the soundtrack doesn't make neo-noir.

>>77635356
Well you're actually wrong about that because Misty and Colleen are the principle supporting characters of Heroes for Hire. They aren't a part of the group themselves, they have their own detective agency Daughters of the Dragon.uke, Danny Colleen and Misty are the main characters of Heroes for Hire

>>77635455
Spring 2016, around same time of year season one started up. Luke Cage should be sometime next year later on, either summer or fall.

>>77635356
Idk man, there's been a few iterations of Heroes for Hire without Luke and Danny.

But it does fit better than Defenders. Oh well, it's really not important in the end.

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>autistic rage ruins everything
The most important lesson the show taught us.

>>77635444
>That's the biggest problem with cape movies nowadays. Always have to keep the villains and be devoid of impactful conclusion.
what cape movies have you been watching? almost every marvel movie has the villain die, the one DC movie has zod being killed by superman. the only movie you could be thinking of is the Nolan Bat trilogy, though even Bane and Talia die at the end of Rises.

>>77634854
They might have Hellcat and Cage was briefly a member.

>>77635555

So were the other people at the meeting autistic as well?

Also nice 5s.

>>77635555
Does she get worse at the end or something? I'm on episode 10, and she's nowhere near as bad as people keep saying she is.

>>77635631
Autistic enough to give credence to the ramblings of a bigger autist.

>>77635555
>>autistic rage ruins everything
You forgot bitch lawyers.

>>77635653
Keep watching episode 10.

>>77634403
Loki and Ultron as well

>>77635588
>Red Skull
>Loki
>Abomination
>Justin Hammer
>Bucky
>Arnim Zola
>every single villain in ASM movies with the exception of maybe Electro

Besides, if someone like Killgrave didn't die that would be lazy and unsatisfying.

>>77635490
Daredevil is the next show again, right? After that it's Luke Cage and then Iron Fist?

>>77635736
Yep, we should get Iron Fist in early 2017 and depending on which shows get second/third seasons, the Defenders miniseries should be late 2017 or early 2018. I honestly expect them to branch out even farther after Defenders, similar to the Avengers effect on the MCU films.

>>77634562
When she was a kid acting in that show her mom was forcing her in, she wore a red wig.

>>77635631
The guy who needed a support group because he lost his jacket was definitely autistic

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Post your face when Kilgrave went purple for a moment

>>77635491
Those iterations being garbage is part of my point.

>>77635703
I fondly remember the episode of Earth's Mightiest Heroes titled "Emperor Stark"

I don't mind that Kilgrave was killed off he had a damn good run while it lasted.

Kilgrave L I T E R A L L Y did nothing wrong

>tested on since he was a child by his parents
>never able to have a healthy relationship with another human being
>doesn't know love
>can't interact without his powers interfering
>finally thinks he found love
>rebuild her childhood house for her
>tries to level with her and wants to change for her
>she kidnaps him and locks him up in a tiny room so it can be pottery to your childhood

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>>77630812
Can't believe they didn't go with this joke instead.

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>>77635978

I can't stand shit like this where the hero refuses to kill the villain

>>77636217
I was legit mad when Jessie wouldnt let nuke end Kilgrave

>>77636016
>episode of Earth's Mightiest Heroes titled "Emperor Stark"
was that based on the Exiles story about Iron-Doom?

>>77631708
Nuke was the Hand of Jessica Jones.

It's the world building for season 2.

>>77636104
Naw man, I'm a guy, a dick who is usually less than polite to ladies and don't agree with no sjw, but Kilgrave was fucked up and crazy evil and did everything wrong.

He was that angry little boy from that episode of the Twilight Zone.

>>77635703
i agree that kilgrave's death was satisfying and i'm glad it happened. but it doesn't change marvel's awful track record with villains.

>Red Skull
not confirmed if he died or not, but it's assumed right now that he is dead.
>Loki
still alive and will return
>Abomination
will never show up again because no film rights
>Justin Hammer
unlikely to show up again because RDJ won't do anymore iron man films
>Bucky
not even a villain
>Arnim Zola
dead in present day marvel

so out of everyone on the list, only Loki is a surviving villain.

no matter how many threads you shit, that garbage still isn't comics nor cartoon.

>>77633834
The MCU is a universe without earplugs

Also it took 10 episodes to tape his mouth shut.

>Luke cage
>gets knocked the fuck out by a shotgun

What the fuck was that?

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>>77636307
>RDJ won't do anymore iron man films
He will 10-15 years from now, I guarantee it.

>>77636307
>kilgrave's death was satisfying
no it wasnt
there wasnt anything interesting or good about it
it was just kilgrave goes full retard and gets MANOFMURDER'D

>>77635985
so only one iteration was good, that's sad

>>77636292
That little boy was a shit. Kilgrave was a circumstance stance of unfortunate events

>>77636269
I don't know, haven't read much Exiles, but the episode was about Purple Man, controlling Tony and using one of his machines to amplify his power on a global scale. Of course rather than show himself he had Tony as his toy king ruling the world by his whims. Vision (who is immune to Purple Man) wakes in the basement of Avengers Mansion and has to figure a way to fight off the other Avengers wiling freeing them of purple man's control. Damn good episode.

>>77633991
There is a stockbroker on trial in NY right now for killing his wife and trying to sell his daughter to Mexicans because his wife cut him out of her will.

Money makes New Yorkers do crazy shit.

>>77636336
That's a BS excuse, you always have choice, he didn't have to have anyone kill themselves or ever hurt themselves, but he did, quite often, and didn't care at all. And was cleaver enough to hide behind the fact that he never actually touches his victims, just his waifus.

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>>77635978

>>77636341
I thought that was just new yorkers

dat papaya juice tho

>>77636341
All Americans are sociopaths, so that's expected.

>>77634403
Nobody in the MCU has good parents.

Stark was raised by an Drunk Womanizing Workaholic
BW Soviet Assasssins
Thor and Loki had Odin
Star Lord had Cancer Mom and Yondu

Shitty parents all around.

Why is every Marvel villain a petulant child?

>that scene where Malcolm admits to the Ruben situation
>when Robyn found out
>and the following witch hunt
I haven't cringed harder
such bad writing

>>77636390
BURN IT WITH FIRE

>>77636259
The only reason she didn't want him dead is so she could prove Hope was innocent.

>>77634562
So how many issues of her upcoming comic will it be before she goes
Blonde?

>>77636373
You can't choose your parents or to have a five inch needle shoved in the back of your head

>>77636404
Cancer mom wasn't a bad parent

>>77635771
I wouldn't be surprised if Fist gets pushed back again. JJ is probably getting a second season after this reception. Hopefully they start making 3 series a year instead of just 2.

>>77636408
because evil people that aren't children learn to manipulate the system rather than draw attention to themselves

>>77634681
Like the Hand in DD

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>>77636408

>>77636427
No, but you can chose to not have that jerk at the paper kiosk throw his hot coffee in his face, or have Hope kill her parents, or have Ruben mutilate himself, ect. You see where I am going with this

>>77635032
Kill grave was real petty how he used that power.

Shit he coulda been President if he had any ambition.

>>77636438
Shitty?

>>77636454
All goes back to his shitty upbringing. nurture > nature

>>77635455
Not Nuke but a whole lotta Frank

>>77636460
Keep in mind he's also a man who wants to stay hidden, doesn't like being recorded, that kind of thing. Getting ambitious with his power means putting himself out there, and why do that when he can easily live as comfortable as he wants.

>>77636416
I know, fucking Hope shitting things up

>>77636454
>or have Hope kill her parents

Actually was it ever addressed why he asked her to do this? Was it just to fug with Jones?

>>77629722
So my one bead with this season is that there is a shadowy government agency creating Super Soldiers, but nobody from the Feds to look into a Goddamn Mind Controller!?!

>>77636475
Nah, his parents saved his life. The only bad parenting they did was not getting a sniper to blow his head off.

>>77636475
I don't fully agree with this, I believe that all people have the option to rise above their upbringing rather than be defined by it. Kilgrave didn't want to grow up, why be an adult with responsibilities why he can just be a big spoiled child all his life? And with his power that was a very real possibility that he actively pursued.

That being said, I really liked the scenes where Jess makes him do the hero bit, hives a glimpse of what if, but you see him quickly turn back to what he's comfy with and act like a snobbish child. He could have just as easily grown up and used his childhood trauma to fuel a need to do good had it been a diffrent story.

>>77636485
if he really just wanted to live well he wouldn't have bothered leaving a trail of broken people behind him.

evil wizard rule 1# don't leave the hero or his kids alive because then they'll just come back for revenge in 20 years with some mystic sword bullshit.

>>77636524
Kilgrave actively goes to great lengths to make sure there is no trace of himself anywhere, no footage, no recordings, no files, nothing. Except that flash drive

>>77634403
>muh evil parents
>a bloo bloo bloo
getting real tired of your shit, Avengers villains.

>>77636545
He wanted to live well and hidden and was doing so until he met Jessica, she completely fucked his whole world up and he exposed himself trying to get her back.

>>77636556
I get that but Nuke was like give me pills to murder this dude, and nobody said hey maybe we should look into this.

>>77636524
Kilgrave was meticulous about destroying all evidence that he even existed and saying that someone mind controlled you just makes you sound crazy.

>>77630520
>she didn't deserve what happened at all.
You're confusing her with Ruben. She was incestuous, controlling, and manipulative. Ruben "fell in love" with Jess at first sight because he saw her as a way to get away from Robyn, someone who actually stood up to her and didn't let her walk all over her.

AKA Robyn a shit, Ruben a best.

>>77636574
Was the ass that good though?

>>77636527
>Nah, his parents saved his life
It's not their right to play god

>>77636537
That's one of the things the show excelled at showing how similar some heroes and villains are and it's all a matter of choice

>>77636577
Did he say why he wanted the pills? I thought he just told them he wanted to rejoin the program.

>>77631000
This guy seemed like he was cosplaying as Dennis Leary the whole show.

>Rock flautist
lel

>>77636577
Was that Nuke? Are we sure about that? Also, he just said that he wanted back into the program, I don't think he told any of his boys about Kilgrave.

I still wish they would have tied Kilgrave into the murder that Karen was in in epsode 1 of Daredevil. I was so fucking sure that that's what happened, really dissapointed to see that I was wrong.

>>77636590
>It's not their right to play god

I guess you're not a fan of doctors.

>>77636604
>Was that Nuke? Are we sure about that?
The actor confirmed it. They just gave him a different background since they can't use Weapon Plus and probably budget, too. Also the pills were red, white, and blue, an obvious nod to the flag tat.

>>77636588
The ass looked pretty damn good in jeans, and it wasn't really the ass, it was the fact that she was the first person to every get away from him. Ya know, the one that got away.
>>77636590
Not going to lie, at times, I was feeling sorry for Kilgrave, and then he reminds me just how fucking monstrous he really is. I had a great time watching this show.

>>77636617
The doctor doesn't keep me held hostage and say "You're gonna get cured whether you like it or not"

>>77636634
Yeah, the red white and blue pills did strike me, but I only remember Nuke from a brief run in Thunderbolts and I can't remember if he used pills or not. I like how he just did a 180 after his boy were blown up and went fucking bat shit crazy.

>>77636634
He always had red white and blue pills. I didn't watch the show, but how was Nuke done thematically as a character?

>>77636588
her ass? yes, very much so

>>77636652
He was a guy on the edge. At first he seems just kind of goofy, but his remorse for nearly killing Patsy sends him into a protective streak a mile wide that keeps getting worse as time goes on. Eventually he gets wounded to the point of near death after Killgrave IEDs him which sends him back to the organization he used to serve under. He takes the pills and that pushes him entirely over the edge. He becomes psychotic and pragmatic as fuck, going so far as to kill people that got in his way and trying to kill Jessica because he thought she didn't have it in her to kill the Purple Man.

Why did they make Killgrave not his real name?
And then have characters laugh at how "ridiculous" the name is?
I get not having him be called Purple Man, but that was unnecessary

>>77636742
Marvel is ashamed of superhero names.

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Will he return?

Holy fuck, the Kevin videos are unsettling as fuck.

>>77636772
I hope so

send this in to Marvel Studios to inspire them

Why does nobody ever consider using noise-canceling headphones against Killgrave?
If you can't hear his orders then he can't control you

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>>77630311

>>77636772
>We can rebuild him, we have the technology

>>77636772
I feel bad for him. I mean, he made his choice and suffered the consequences, but he got a raw fucking deal regardless.

>>77636802

That wouldn't stop him from escaping or controlling other people.

I mean it's annoying that blocking out his commands was never addressed until the end, but headphones existing didn't make their initial "sedate and capture" plan make less sense. I'm okay with it.

>>77636729
Sounds kind of lame desu

So
>The big green guy and his crew
>the flag waver

How come they can't use brand names?

>>77636884
Have you been to New York? We're fluent in vagaries more than we are specifics, especially when we don't care for them.

Everyone is so nonchalant about disposing of bodies and crime scene evidence

I'm confused as to why they needed a very specific anaesthetic drug.
ANY drug that can knock people out would have done the job.
Don't say "it cancels his powers", because that doesn't mean shit when he's unconcios and can't speak, and even if his powers are "canceled" the orders he already gave will still be carried out

>>77636912
The kidney doctor explained that different anaesthetics affect different bodily functions

>>77636934
Again, that doesn't matter.
All that matters is knocking Killgrave out so he can't say anything

So was the dialogue between Kilgrave and Luke Cage in ep 12 the best thing?

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>>77636826

>>77636952

Jones thought sedating him would cancel out his powers completely (including his existing orders) because he refused to be put under when the doc did the kidney transplant.

>>77636952
Kilgrave's power, while a verbal component was often used, it's not sound based, I'm sure that, given time he would have leaned how to issue commands without his words. While you are correct that just knocking him out would usually work, the doc did say that there was a diffrence to being asleep or knocked out and the drug that was used because it shuts off certain brain functions. Remember, Jess did say that he sleeps, Implyng his power continues to work while in a rem state.

>>77637030
>given time he would have leaned how to issue commands without his words.
Even if that were true, he would still need to be concious to use his powers, so knocking him out with any drug would still be just as effective

Anyone else think Simpson looked a lot like captain America and even dressed very similar? I'm wondering if this was done as a way of showing how a soldier given powers could do it the right way (cap) or do it the wrong way (nuke).

Albert getting his arms chopped off glad to see Marvel is continuing with their amputee theam.