This show went to shit after the first season.
Yeah Season 2 just changed the crying for gay now.
>several completely open-subject threads that contain at worst a slight against Steven Universe within the first or second posts that is immediately taken over by some reaction image spamming no-life SU shill writing walls of texts
did your fanbase wake up with a collective bug up its ass today?
but it's literally the opposite, some shitposter(s?) is baiting hard in each of those threads, fuck knows why /sug/ seems to be actually replying, I guess they just enjoy fuelling further cancer
agreed. ironically it went to shit as soon as they started introducing more characters and an overarching plot. shame being a show on CN it severely limits the pace of the story so like 90% of the season is filler and 10% is actually story progression.
>not as shitty as the other boards
>Fat bitch tries to kill herself
>Show is cancelled
Could you imagine fucking Rebecca Sugar and Ian Quartley reading this thread losing their shit over some guy on the internet bitching about a cartoon.
faggots can't stand a show being about something they don't stand for, in addition to the extremely irritating fanbase and the other faggots don't like the bashing of their favorite show. both parties are scum of society
tumblr and the newer /co/mrades are the ultimate meme
self destruction when ?
tumblr and /co/ are that couple you know that fights all the time and you see them spew shit at each other most of the time but at the end of the day you know they fuck like crazy and tell each other "i love you" and fall asleep in each others embrace only to repeat the process
That's it. Keep crying. I love watching you faggots get mad
>This show went to shit after the first season.
so either you're not OP or you are OP and simply lied in the OP when you said that, in either case this entire thread is embarrassing
let me grad my popcorn
The shows actually getting canceled because of the zami raid lead by Rebecca sugar. Hope that finally catch that bitch and deport her back to Jerusalem to be with the other filthy rats.
Were you on 4chan when this thread popped up?
If so you can read ALL my complaints with Steven Universe as I created that thread as well. I'm not repeating myself again on why I think both shows suck ass now.
this is good, when /co/ hates something, more people have a contrarian position and will force themselves to like the show until they do, thus making the show even more popular while /co/ can do nothing but slowly adopt the position of the majority.
Stop viewing the episodes on the premier, start pirating, go on video sites where they can't make revenue, stop buying their products, etc.
That's what happened to Young Justice, but that was more on the line of their toy merchandise not selling very well.
Same thing happened with Korra even though it completed its run. People were pirating the shit outta Korra episodes just non stop. They hardly viewed it on television, which made Nick pull it off cable, alongside with Viacom not advetising the show as well and so on.
Korra was massively popular in the beginning as a mini-series, but slowly began to drop like a fucking rock.
who many gem budies are here?.
Can the people calling show tumblr find me a single thing that is popular on /co/ and not also popular on tumblr?
Also pointing out that the characters cry a lot is not a legitimate criticism. SU is a show with lots of genuine flaws so I don't know why people always resort to these two points.
And for all the newy fags out there who've never seen a hate thread, this isn't coming from someone who blindly hates the series for no reason. I've watched every episode thus far and come to the conclusion that the show is a massive shit stain on not just television but the internet as a whole.
I've discussed about the show in all intensive purposes, seen the fan base by in large, and the general consensus is the fan base is also shitty. This show isn't some special snowflake it's boring, poorly written, drags on forever, the music is okay but everything just sucks...
>Enjoy a show
>Fandom is absolute shit
>Because of this other people have to treat the show as inherit shit
>Both parties discuss nothing but say key words over and over again like "Progressive" or "SJW"
I want to see garnet disagree with ruby and sapphire or something like that. Something by herself not by mum and mom.
Her own person not just made up by two things.
Threads like this are top kek.
>People on /co/ get Triggered about a children's cartoon and start acting like tumblrinas.
I think this is the definition of hypocrisy
Keep making threads like these OP,I need a good dose of laughter once in a while.
I really, really hope that Steven can fuse with Gems.
>Oh, cool, as Steven Universe thread!
>Does this mean the hiatus is over?
This isn't even about /ss/, I think it'd be interesting to see him fusing more.
I am a /ss/nerson, but the main reason why I want to see Steven fusing with the Gems isn't because of /ss/. I want to see Steven becoming stronger, and learning more on how to use his Gem abilities, fusion being one of them.
I'm more interested in how the Gems would react to fusing with Steven.
I'm sure Amethyst and Garnet would be ecstatic and happy to fuse with him, but Pearl might not be.
Fusing, with what is basically her son, after all those thousands of years of lusting after fusing with the same Gem type, Rose Quartz, might be a little weird for her.
Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and she'd be the most eager to fuse with him.
Make things happen other than crying and singing and give importance to the space rocks and whatever they have to do in the big scheme of things rather than the stupid humans like Lars and Sadie and their boring daily problems.
Have Steven pulverized by a death ray ASAP
Shame, if I there was a favorite character of mine it would be Peridot. But unfortunately the writers snipped the balls off this character and flanderized her completely.
Oh well, I guess all good things must come to an end I suppose.
>So your saying that Steven Universe is going to get good again?
Again I don't mind secondary characters intruding into the show, they exists to make the main cast look good. But when they somehow become the main focus and contribute absolutely nothing, the writers have a big problem on their shoulders.
The Gems did attempt to fuse with him in Alone Together, so if anything I don't think that they'd react to him wanting to fuse with them, but they'd definitely (especially Pearl) react to something while being fused with him. Their fusions would be quarter Human, so it would probably be a weird experience for them.
What if Steven/Gem fusions are men?
>steven never asked to be born.
Is that why he gets along with Amethyst so well?
It would still be better than the Book 2 finale because no doubt Sugar would actually take 5 seconds to explain Steven can suddenly turn into a 50 story tall spirit version of herself.
>Steven can suddenly turn into a 50 story tall spirit version of herself.
Please tell me that it's just an OC and not a racebent and genderbent Steven.
That's not a headcanon, that's an AU.
I honestly don't think Rose would have a problem with Greg moving on and dating other women.
You mean tumblr shouting endlessly that he was "a trans girl"?
No no I did, its just the file got corrupted. Glad to know someone has my back for another download. I can never get enough of side by side comparisons of the many forms of Amethyst, and whether or not she was the right shape to fit inside a crevasse
I don't have either but I think he means the one like this:
>Steven Universe is a girl
>but here's a post from the creator specifically stating that he's a boy
>STEVEN UNIVERSE IS A GIRL!
>Steven can shapeshift
>Steven can shapeshift very poorly, but he is steadily learning to control his other powers better
>Steven may one day be able to expertly shapeshift his body into whatever he wants to be
>This has the potential to be canon
I take it you didn't get the reference or look at the post I replied to then
On top of that, the secondary characters are shit. They're all boring at best, annoying twats at worst with no central theme as a backbone of their personality. Greg, Lars, the mute kid, that guy with the conspiracy theories. They could all die horribly under a steamroller and I wouldn't even flinch. Of course the more you go into female minority territory, the less flawed the personality.
Steven is a whiny little bitch with the most annoying voice I've ever heard on a main character and by the half of S1 when I dropped the show he made absolutely zero progress in terms of personality. I don't know if this changed.
From what I understand the gems made zero progress as well apart from Garnet being a fusion fetishist made up by two little lesbians and introducing Rose who's apparently a hamplanet. When they ran out of ideas they added more badly designed evil copycats of the main gems to the mix instead of actually making progresses with the plot.
I doubt he wants to be anything (or anyone, with the exception of fusions) except for himself.
Nigga please. You wish you were as smooth as this slice of pie.
Nah you're pretty much on the money there. No progress has been made, and we're unfortunately stuck back at season one's motif of learning what it means to be ______, only this time with Peridot.
>The show has regressed at this point.
The show had literally dine nothing. They are still chasing peridot, steven is a bitch, Garnet is muh gay, Pearl is muh rose. Nothings changed at all. Please don't watch this show.
What's his personality? Unless they expanded on it later, all I saw was the aging 70's rock music fan stereotype.
He'd probably be the most likable of the secondary characters if he weren't completely worthless.
The fact despite everything that has happened in his life (his failed career, losing his wife) Greg still makes an attempt to be a good father, making him one of the most positive human influences in his life.
Just like I always say with AT, this show could've been great. I saw a lot of heart in the very start of it, and the premise was great. Superpowered tokusatsu ensemble taking care of a little boy? It was cute, fresh and it could have opened up to the perfect mix of adventure, cool lore and coming-of-age themes. Steven becoming more and more mature and eventually becoming a powerful hero by the final season could've been even more satisfying than ATLA with Aang.
I can't even really hate these shows because I get too sad from the wasted potential.
You know I'd like to contribute my revelation of the show being simply average to the Nostalgia Critic. He and his brother are doing vlogs of the show, and you'd think when an important matter happens or an event unfolds in the show that they would be spastic in joy. But that never happens...
I read the comments all time, and you know it's just the typical blind fan or angry twat on the internet. They get angry at the two because they expect them to have some grandiose revelation that somehow this show is the next best thing since sliced bread. it's actually pretty funny and I encourage people who aren't watching to start reviewing their vlogs on Channel Awesome. It's just this abundance of over hying something to the point you never want to hear about it again.
Same. Not to say that it doesn't still have heart, but yeah just some wasted potential on fan pandering for the masses.
I still have hope for the show though, the cold bitterness in my heart hasn't completely taken over yet.
i watch SU to see steven get it in, when this happens i am 100% positive that butts will be blasted
remember Rebecca sugar is on no side, she plays you like a fiddle and listens to the melody of madness.
pic related, it's the face of a true dark sider
Oh boy... Let me preference this statement by saying that pandering to the base exists outside its original source material, whether it be interviews, public speakings, internet blogs, books, etc. with that being said here a some bullet points.
>Dancing fueled by sexual undertones
>Fat equals attractive
>Race mixing (that's not meant to sound racist btw)
And so on and so forth the list goes on. Read any statements from the creators and you'll understand where I'm coming from, coupled with the Tumblr-esque age of gender whatever and this show just fits the bill too well.
Not inherently Tumblr
>>Dancing fueled by sexual undertones
That sounds more /co/ pandering
One time and wasn't any different from what Gumball or Clarence has done
>>Fat equals attractive
Gravity Falls did the same thing
You mean Amethyst turning into Purple Puma?
>>Race mixing (that's not meant to sound racist btw)
Again, not inherently tumblr
The episode where Steven's and Pearl's fusion shows up is going to be so depressing, I just know it.
Saying just because it happened once or isn't inherently exclusive to one show or group doesn't hide the fact that it's still prevalent.
As for the man shaming bullet point I added, tell me the gems don't have an intense animosity towards Greg. The SJW's latched on to this one point and amalgamated the show into this pro female bullshit we see today.
Besides how could you defend this show? Its fan base is atrocious and they attack individuals who don't follow their agenda.
>As for the man shaming bullet point I added, tell me the gems don't have an intense animosity towards Greg
Gee, you ever think it's because he was indirectly responsible for their leader's death and not some petty shit like gender?
>As for the man shaming bullet point I added, tell me the gems don't have an intense animosity towards Greg.
That's because he's indirectly responsible for the death of someone who they loved. He doesn't deserve it, but their feelings are at the very least understandable.
And Garnet seems to be relatively chill with him.
>The SJW's latched on to this one point and amalgamated the show into this pro female bullshit we see today
Yeah, and they're a bunch of assholes. This isn't new.
>Besides how could you defend this show? Its fan base is atrocious and they attack individuals who don't follow their agenda.
The show is not its fanbase.
>cool concepts barely used because boring SoL
>forced drama every episode
>inconsistent artstyle and animation
>the show acknowledge his flaws but never change it
>Gee, you ever think it's because he was indirectly responsible for their leader's death and not some petty shit like gender?
>Greg fucked there leader to death to create Steven it wasn't really his fault
So why have the blame solely fall upon Greg and not Rose? Rose clearly understood the implications as seen in Lion 3: Straight to Video, so it wasn't like she had no understanding, she clearly knew from the beginning that creating Steven would irradiate her from existence and yet the gems mainly blame Greg for all of it.
Didn't mean to use a question mark, shit.
i want su to come back so this filth can be abolished
Pandering to fans can be implemented before a show even airs. Sugar purposely made cutesy characters that she knew many people would ship because she's done it many times before as a high schooler. And for the characters that AREN'T canonically together in the show, she makes sure to throw shippers so many bones to the point where fucking skeletons are writing the script. Cutesy, blush-filled moments take priority over learning about the Homeworld. I'm more interested in the Gems planet than the Gems themselves because so far, all they talk about is relationshit and being obsessed with fusion.
I thought it would be different when Peridot showed up in the main cast, but Sugar keeps throwing shippers xPearl or xAmethyst fuel and it's getting really annoying at this point.
Keep believing in Steven, and everything will be alright.
She wants people to ship everyone with everyone.
And that's why there are so many people who have dropped the show despite admitting being interested in it and wanting to see what happens with Yellow Diamond.
People think it's the LGBT themes or whatever that makes it pandering to Tumblr, but it's not. It's the heavy dose of cuteness and faux shipping. If Tumblr wasn't around, we would be saying it panders heavily to DeviantART, but the sentiment is the same.
Peridot has already devolved to being a fucking fan fiction version of Invader ZIM, this whole show is written like a fan fiction in disguise with some good actually creative nuggets buried deep that take awhile to get to.
Once the series is over and we found out all major points about the Homeworld, I can't imagine going back to this show. The air of mystery is what is keeping some people going.
Shipping bait is pandering to fans. They typically go hand in hand. A creator liking it is just a bonus for them.
Not tumblr. Unless you have a character stating that gays should have special rights or some shit.
>Dancing fueled by sexual undertones
Nigga what? That's fanservice for nerds, more likely. I wasn't aware tumblr had some kind of claim to sexual subtext.
Not even one. There isn't one of these in the show.
Almost every cartoon in existence has had a character dress as the opposite sex for some reason. Fucking NORSE MYTHOLOGY did this several hundred years ago. SUMERIANS did this in their stories, long before the birth of Christ.
>Fat equals attractive
Again, not even once. Nowhere is it ever stated or implied that being fat is attractive. You are making shit up.
See above. For fucks' sake, the main character and solution to most problems is a dude. Greg is probably the most level-headed and practical member of the cast.
In that the three main 'superheroes' are female? The main character is still male and still more important than any of them. If you think 'females are equal to male' is a tumblr tier state of affairs - and by the way, the show never states this, it's just fucking assumed because the show isn't made in some horrible Islamic shithole or China/Russia - then you clearly don't know tumblr.
What? Because the gems can shapeshift? The fuck are you even on?
>Race mixing (that's not meant to sound racist btw)
I think we're pretty much at a point now where the only people who get mad at two characters of two different races being an item are stormfronters and Tea Party shitters. Nobody considers this a break from the norm.
Nigga chill, the show is maybe radical if you're a Muslim or you live in the Bible Belt or some shit.
Garnet's actually stated that they didn't understand Rose's reasoning for doing what she did.
Also it's WAY easier to be angry at the part of the equation that's still alive and isn't half of a child that looks up to you for guidance.
>Shipping bait is pandering to fans. They typically go hand in hand. A creator liking it is just a bonus for them.
Pandering is going out of your way to indulge people with x interest in order to draw that audience.
It's not pandering when that element is included in something just because that's what the creator happens to enjoy themself.
They can do whatever they want. I'm stating why a lot of people, myself included, hate it, and see the show as wasted potential.
"Blahblah can do what they want" is the weakest argument you can respond back with. Nobody is ever fucking saying that when they're saying they they hate something.
>tell me the gems don't have an intense animosity towards Greg.
The gems don't have an intense animosity toward Greg. Things are weird toward them because of Rose's death but they are pretty much friends now, if awkward friends. There is no man-shaming you retard.
What tumblr has latched on to doesn't matter.
For fucks' sake, the crew of this show have told tumblr off for being stupid in regards to the show multiple times. Shit, they defended the short-lived trend of whitening pictures of Connie, which is basically an act tantamount to defending a regicide or, I dunno, murderer in the eyes of the delusional SJW community.
Except the show would progress if the fusion dances weren't so sexual. They could very well just do simple dances or gestures, Garnet doesn't need to throw Pearl up against a wall and have her blush. They made them sexual beforehand to appeal to who they predicted their fans would be and what they would like because they like it themselves.
It's clever pandering by making it "part of the lore/story", but it's still pandering.
It's not pandering if it's genuine. That's all I'm fucking saying.
She hasn't included the stupid shipping bullshit elements in order to pander to the tumblr crowd, she happens to be one of said crowd and tosses her interests into her work. She did the exact same shit with Adventure Time.
And I'm not disagreeing that the show doesn't suffer for it sometimes, because it most definitely does.
>So it wouldn't be pandering if you liked it, but other people didn't?
No. Not even sure where that leap of logic came from.
>the simple gestures your describing are boring.
Saying "a simple gesture" isn't really describing them. So there's nothing really to be bored by. But it's still entirely possible for them to have developed visual dances that didn't involve grinding and twerking.
>she happens to be one of said crowd and tosses her interests into her work.
That's a roundabout way to say she's pandering. Another way would be to say she's appealing to them. Regardless, she's doing it deliberately to excite the fans and she knows it. Again, just because she likes it doesn't mean she isn't also sitting there thinking, "Oh man Jeff Liu, that panel of Amy and Peridot is adorable, the fans are going to eat it up".
>Except the show would progress if the fusion dances weren't so sexual.
It would make zero difference.
What you're coming across as is that you are utterly unconfortable across sexuality. Maybe you should work on that first.
The whole show is made to satisfy Sugar's shipping thirst and anime/video game nostalgia more than her interest in fantasy or adventure. Which is why most of the show is wasted potential.
>It would make zero difference.
Not as ship-heavy. So you're wrong.
And it's actually quite uncomfortable when it's a show aimed at kids where Garnet is teaching a 12-year old how to fusion dance by being sexual with Pearl. It's fine when Pearl is ballet dancing, it's cute when Steven and Connie are swinging around, it's cringey when Amy is shaking her ass and jumping into Garnet's outstretched legs.
It was also cringey when Stevonnie started wild dancing as a response to that cocky guy at the club and it was very cringey when Ruby was basically kissing Sapphire's breasts.
Cringey comes in many forms, anon. This show is littered with them.
>shaking her ass
It was a silly joke anon, no need to be so tirggered.
>Ruby was basically kissing Sapphire's breasts
No shit it was embarassing. Why do you think steven covered his eyes?
>Not as ship-heavy.
What "shipping", dumbass? The only relationships we're seeing are Steven and Connie, plus Ruby and Sapphire.
>it's cringey when Amy is shaking her ass and jumping into Garnet's outstretched legs.
>It was also cringey when Stevonnie started wild dancing as a response to that cocky guy at the club
> and it was very cringey when Ruby was basically kissing Sapphire's breasts.
You just confirmed what I just said: you're uncomfortable with displays of sexuality. And you know what's the worst part?
>And it's actually quite uncomfortable when it's a show aimed at kids where Garnet is teaching a 12-year old how to fusion dance by being sexual with Pearl.
You're dressing it up in obnoxious "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!1!!!" morality.
I honestly wonder: what the fuck are you doing in 4chan? As >>77602183 well said, this is a den of depravity. People here still lament the loss of /l/ after all these years. You know how you sound? Like that stupid kid who was berating IJQ on Twitter about "underage pornography".
>CALL MY NAME AND SAVE ME FROM THE DARK
>Nigga can't see what shipping is done in Steven unless it's officially confirmed
>Nigga defending this hard cause he loves gem waifus more then real girls
>Trying to turn it into a liberal vs. conservative argument instead of accepting his own pathetic awkward social stances
Fine take man shaming out of the equation, long story short the gems don't like Greg very much, hurr durr... As I said before the fan base would take that as face value and blow it up out of proportion. And before you say the fan base isn't what makes the show, it does to me. When you're parading around the internet and read about fucking lunatics attacks individuals in the name of a shitty children's cartoon, there's something wrong there.
Hey asshole you still read every point if you yourself said
>stopped reading right there.
Hey I got you to read all my points and got you to react d'aww...
As I said before Steven Universe has arguably the worst fan base on the internet. Even when trying to defend their shit, they come off as creepy, obsessive, and defendant over a few bullet points. Someone asked me how the show was fan pandering and so I compiled a list of it. I never said that these points were the end all be all, just my opinions and stray observations.
>HOLY SHIT ANON!
>Come on man, this is a blue board!
>Enjoy your ban.
>Is actually trying to use the internet grammar police tactic as a way to show how smart he is.
God, SU fans are so pathetic and desperate to think they're show isn't shit. >77602335 has it exactly right.
This was suppose to be a hate thread, yet people are waving their arms in anger screaming to the top of their lungs
>YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT MY FAVORITE SHOW LIKE THAT
It's fucking embarrassing to watch these cringe worthy acts from individuals that'll do anything to validate their show.
>As I said before Steven Universe has arguably the worst fan base on the internet.
Worse than bronies, seriously?
>Hey I got you to read all my points and got you to react d'aww...
This behavior has a name: TROLLING.
Someone barging into /sug/ with the singular purpose of pissing of Steven Universe fans was common, but didn't cause this much conflict.
Clearly, anti-SU spam is not welcome on /sug/.
But this thread is different.
Rather than just a target for tumblr boogeyman hate, like /sug/, this thread is actually inviting both Steven Universe hate AND Steven Universe fans to defend the show.
So yes, this kind of behavior was common on /sug/, but not to this magnitude.
So people that like the show cant come into this thread and disagree with you? Do you think you own this board? Did you just want a circle jerk of people agreeing with you and making you feel confident and happy with your opinion?
Especially when you have people wishing harm on the creators for their disliking of a cartoon?
Thank you for the link.
I brought something back with me.
Rick & Morty
Wander Over Yonder
Mike Tyson Mysteries
Star VS (On and off, only 13 episodes in a single year, really hard to stay interested in this show with so little content being put out)
Amazing World of Gumball
We Bare Bears
Got back into South Park this season.
I can't decide yet if Guardians of the Galaxy cartoon is interesting or boring, action cartoons can take quite a bit before really getting their footing.
Steven would be cool if it wasn't packed to the gills with cutesy : > and : 3 faces. I thought the visuals would be a little bit more interesting given Sugar's actual art style rather than resorting to dumb anime-esque faces for expressions and humor. I'm shocked there hasn't been a sweatdrop fall in the show yet (Excluding Garnet's Universe).
It's okay to having an opinion, but you come to a thread that's bashing a shitty show and expect people to be on your side. Read the previous comments before, there was no bashing the fans up until a point of "fan pandering" that's when the shit hit the fan. You've exposed yourself to being one of those fans who'll go so fucking far for a children's cartoon.
As for the people who express hate for Rebecca and the Crewniverse that's on them, don't put the blame me. This isn't a circle jerk you retard...
Youre speaking to multiple anons here anon. I was trying to have a decent discussion as to why he thinks irt fan pandering. Youre getting upset because im disagreeing with him. Am i not allowed to voice my opinion?
If someone were to make a thread about things that they love about the show, you wouldnt be complaining that it would be flooded by people who hate it now would you?
Implying that 4chan would make a shit board for the shit fans. This show is just a passing fad, it'll die out sooner of later, then be replaced with another show that has an obnoxious following we can hate.
Yeah hey, I'm OP. You asked me question, I gave you a list and things escalated from there. If you want to avoid confusion might I suggest you name fag yourself?
>If someone were to make a thread about things that they love about the show, you wouldnt be complaining that it would be flooded by people who hate it now would you?
No, I strictly avoid the /sug/ because that's people talking about what they like, why should I be a bitch an intrude on that? That's why I made my own anti thread, so I could talk with people who share similar opinions and the like. If you like a show it's okay to like it, just know other people will have differing opinions.
Its just that your acting like this behavior is specific to Steven Universe. Of course if you make a thread bashing a show that someone likes, they're going to disagree with you.