Good evening owls of /co/,
The ultimate goal is Frankencastle, but why not start at the top
Public Service Announcement: Jared FATE is now being Comixology'd.
I eagerly await the digital rips.
I have read just about zero Punisher material. Is this one of those runs where Frank is portrayed as a sympathetic nutjob, or is this just full on asshole time?
Did you see that thing Mark Millar wrote about Huck and Man of Steel?
Felt a little... disingenuous and sincere at the same time, but that's kind of Mark Millar in a nutshell, isn't it?
I'm not sure, but there's some wacky fucking Frankventures ahead! Also it's Dark Reign so he's trying to kill Norman Osborne, which is a worthy goal
I KNOW! It's all $1.99 an issue right now, tho
Speaking of Remender, Tokyo Ghost is getting better and better. The only thing I don't like is that we're already at that point were everything seems perfect for our protagonists and things can only get worse from here.
The real non-edgelord Millar is emerging again, like a cicada in its cycle
Remender's trying to be more optimistic after getting help for his depression, right? Maybe it'll be reflected by things stay good for them instead of everything going to hell like usual.
Let me say at the top that the Sentry is trash
Also I just realized that without Madge in the current DCU, we have to have a dysfunctional but adorable Ladytron/Midnighter teamup, right
>Jared FATE is now being Comixology'd.
Well it's about damn time.
Fair point. I can definitely get on board with wanting to kill Norman Osbourne.
Didn't that fucker order an attack on Asgard? Idiot.
I need to go read that just-out Uncanny Avengers Annual that's actually a Scarlet Witch solo lead-in
THAT'S the other thing I was gonna run. Yeah!
YES DO IT DO IT
I do laugh at "Bob, throw that man into the sun"
Sometimes it's nice to read a well-done action comic, damn
also, Howard Porter is the best
That shit lost all direction that wasn't "fightin' KANG and the red skull i guess" shit pretty fast. Wonderman's pacifism plot was a nonstarter, literally everybody forgot about Alex still being inverted and trapping Jan in the microverse (and that Jan/Alex romance sucked), the unity team made things WORSE for mutant/human relations, and Sunfire was a team member Rick desperately wanted who... got a powerup and that was about it.
>Wonder Woman fans! If you'd like to make fan art or letter about Legend of Wonder Woman, please do so! Something cool might come from it! :)
Yeah, and if I wish upon a star, I might get that army of cute robot women I've always wanted. Sure.
that is one hell of a COUCHSEID
Yeah, I need to go back and dig into Invaders. Bucky's toastergun was just a bit much back then, and I'm not even /k/
Ummm, yeah, at this point in time remember Norman took out the Skrull Queen and was like head of SHIELD or something? He was riding high. And Bob is a naive idiot.
oh sweet jesus someone ask him that on twitter or I will
because he might draw it and the world needs that
at least Khouri said that Ryan is finishing his run as a complete arc
You remember how it was claimed by someone(Valentine, I think?)at DC that the people in charge of WW's book have some sort of blackmail material on the higher ups? With the Finches still being on the book and all the shit that happened with the Amazons, I believe it.
I am really excite for Ferreyra's art
What are the odds our new-new writer for Teen Titans will be able to turn it around?
I think you're thinking of the situation with Berganza (who inside baseball says is a serial harasser of women) and the Superman office at DC.
>You remember how it was claimed by someone(Valentine, I think?)
Not Valentine, it was somebody else whose name I should know but am completely blanking on
but yeah supposedly Berganza has dirt on somebody above him so they can't fire him or something like that
I just tag the storytime that way because that's how people know me and I don't trip, and we're a kind of regular reading group by now
I am too, I really dig his art
I'm gonna miss GBM tho
>What are the odds our new-new writer for Teen Titans will be able to turn it around?
it's Teen Titans, so 0%
Pak can be pretty good and all but I have no hope for TT
>Lobdell on Suicide Squad
That would be too horrible for me to comprehend
>someone(Valentine, I think?)
DeCampi? Shes the one that said Marvel, DC, and Dark Horse, etc have all harassers there
The fixable problem with TT (that's not nostalgia) is that no one feels like they can just make it a fun book. They should all be strapped down and made to read Gen13 until their eyes bleed.
huh, is Fraction Punisher any good?
>no one feels like they can just make it a fun book. They should all be strapped down and made to read Gen13 until their eyes bleed.
and Young Justice!
I don't know why everyone feels the need to make the TT angsty and edgy (and I feel like I'm using that word right) all the time, it's a book about fucking teenage superheroes, just make it fun
I'm gonna save it for later, but there's a long "History of Punisher" feature in the back with lots of panels
not sure if is included: that time the Punisher shot someone for jaywalking
The combination of NTT's most popular plots and Geoff Johns' TT run is likely heavily responsible.
And yet they went out of their way to make Tim as hetero as possible in the reboot, when that was like half the buying base!
Again, blackmail explains so much of the bullshit going on with WW right now.
Also, how sad is it that sexual harassment in the comic book industry isn't even remotely surprising. We all thought we were getting past that neckbeard shit, but nah.
will check it out, then
He never answered me when I asked him what the Latin motto on the Deadly Class shirts was meant to say :(
>Well NTT was pretty angsty and edgy, and that sold a lot at the time.
it was, but compared to what we've been getting the past 20 years the angst and drama in NTT felt way less forced
WW is explainable down to something as simple and blunt as "who's a superstar artist and do we know a woman who writes comics? oh, great, our superstar artist has a wife who writes, perfect, let's do that".
The Superman office, I believe, does not reign over WW, but does over SM/WW.
Also running during Dark Reign was 'Skrull Kill Krew', which is one of the weirder things Marvel has gotten past its internal censors
>that time the Punisher shot someone for jaywalking
As someone who doesn't read Punisher, that sounds like a very absurdist interpretation. Frank Castle became the Punisher because his family was killed by gangsters. The idea that all crimes are equal and warranting of a ventilation is, well, fucking stupid and kind of against the point.
Wasn't NTT one of the first Big Two comics where it was more than just nudge-implied that people were having sex?
WW is edited by Mike Cotton and Eddie Berganza as group editor.
Yes, Mike Cotton edits Teen Titans, Wonder Woman, AND E2S.
I got it wrong, it was someone littering
what's the timeline on NTT vs. Grell Green Arrow, which also had a specific MATURE AUDIENCES tag on it?
Azz Wondy was edited by Conroy and Idelson
Nobody actually likes David Finch's art though, right? That has to be ironic. No way people find that shit appealing when every character looks constipated.
As for 'women who write comics', Meredith has next to no experience actually writing comics, and as it turns out, she fucking sucks at writing, period.
Whoever thought any of this was a good idea needs to be fired and punched in the face.
Grell is 1988, NTT is early 80s.
Remember the letter that FabNic wrote into Infinity Inc. after the scene with Jade and Brainy, wherein he took the stand that it's not filth to show it?
>Nobody likes David Finch
And nobody liked Michael Turner's art either, I'm sure.
You know how they say you can't account for taste? The core buyers of comics are a great example of that.
>Remember the letter that FabNic wrote into Infinity Inc. after the scene with Jade and Brainy, wherein he took the stand that it's not filth to show it?
>the simple reason that Dick is 19 years old. I was married at 19. . . . they are both consenting adults, and no matter what—the title says Teen Titans—at 19 years old, those two are legally adult. . . .
>And, that one panel, which I did as tastefully as I could, there was no nudity involved, nothing was shown of the act, it’s just the fact that she was in what was established as being his bedroom, because I’d drawn the bedroom before. It’s the bedroom set I have. And, make no question about it, they were in bed together...
>this has become one of the most controversial panels we’ve ever presented. Many readers wrote in saying “Way to go!” and others said “How could you do that in a book about teenagers?”
Well in all honesty, they can go fuck themselves.
Scenario: Charles Manson is about to shoot a child in the face. You can stop him, but you have to shoot Charlie in order to do it. Well shit, I guess you better let him put a hole in the kid's head, because it would be immoral otherwise!
I think this was one of the panels that did it
I'm not Kind Storyteller
we just decided to read some Frank
note the helmet on the left
this will be relevant
Shit, was Clint even alive at this point, I forget? He had to be because there's that panel of him being sexually harassed by Venom Gargan
I wonder what the actual fuck Becky Cloonan Frank is going to be like. I read a bit of Edmondson and yawned out of it.
Part of the basic gist, generalized, is "Anyone who does bad once is bad forever and cannot be saved. Shades of gray do not exist - evil is evil, good is good", and it's filtered through a specific definition of "good" and "evil".
"A = A". No shades of gray, no complexity. Black and white.
Then you start getting into the Rand hole of "not helping anybody but myself is the greatest thing every actually"
I also remember the imminent gangbang panel.
now this asshole was EVERYWHERE thanks to Bendis
This is the one I was thinking of, thanks GIS
Nietzsche is actually great when you realize that a solid half of his writing is grade-A trolling
no, that's memorable, when something sparks a ton of porn
Right, it's more a case of "not the first person I'd think of writing Frank", which is more to say my expectations are 'unsure' not 'this gonna suck'
does this underworld Costco also have tons of quality free samples?
as long as it doesn't look entirely like an M16 fucked a toaster, I'm forgiving of ridiculous guns
we're reading it, IIRC, because the issue of tone/genre shift came up broadly
Yes! Sample that coke before you buy.
I should make homemade pecan fudge this holiday season y/y/y
I keep meaning to get the issue with Frank and the jet ski framed and hung on my wall
Might I just say that this "Hood" fellow is exceptionally lame. I just cant take this due seriously when he dresses like a bad parody of cosplayers.
Incidentally, how the hell does 4chan's spellcheck not recognize the word 'cosplayers'? We have a fucking cosplay board, and it recognizes 'cosplay'! Fuck plural nouns, I guess.
I mean who among us wouldn't watch SHAOLIN SCIENTIST SQUAD
Bendis had a huge hard-on for the Hood before this as well, leading to this infamous issue:
I need to read me those Avengers
this is, of course, a takeoff on the Punisher's intro panel
It's the cover of his first solo
Punisher is gay. Why are y'all reading such a faggy character?
what board do you think you're on
how about Skynyrd as performed by some very odd Finns?
this isn't anywhere as gay as handsome Solid Frank, anyway
Pretty good. Finally got rid of that piece of junk van that's been sitting in the driveway. City was starting to give us shit for it, but we sold it to some dude tonight. Now there's actual space in the driveway.
OH SHIT, FRANK GOT ALL ARTS AND CRAFTS ON US
let's read one more and wrap this arc
the Ant-Man helmet gets a very creative use
>Wonderman's pacifism plot was a nonstarter
Ah, the pacifist superhero. There's a concept nobody ever really managed to figure out. The worst example being Val-Zod.
I mean, it's one thing for capes to advocate peaceful solutions(Wondy for example), but can superheroes really be outright against violence?
I never played SSX Tricky but my college dorm played a fucking lot of Tony Hawk for the PS2
Why the hell did I play sooo much Tony Hawk as a kid? I wasn't even in to skateboarding.
Probably, yeah. Honestly, I think you have Madden to partially blame for that. Everyone saw how that franchise became a stagnant shadow and thought "Wow, sports games will never change. Fuck this.".
There is no Dillon to be found here, anon
I admit I have no idea who most of these d00ds are
I love the "in MAX continuity, people use cocaine for sugar"
More Frank tomorrow, Frank fans!
Okay, seriously, who the FUCK appointed the Green Goblin as the director of SHIELD? Dark Reign has one of the most fucktarded premises ever.
Only ones I recognize are Carol and Baron Zemo.
>who the FUCK appointed the Green Goblin as the director of SHIELD? Dark Reign has one of the most fucktarded premises ever.
some day, SOME DAY, I'll do that full annotated "Why Secret Invasion was a huge fucking waste" SoP
Well I've got news for you buddy. This is Frank's face after dabbling with an escort.
I think some topics just bring out the crazies.
It's weird how quickly it can go from normal to "black people are objectively inferior and anyone that disagrees is proof of /co/mblr". See the Jessica Jones thread.
>Scenario: Charles Manson is about to shoot a child in the face. You can stop him, but you have to shoot Charlie in order to do it. Well shit, I guess you better let him put a hole in the kid's head, because it would be immoral otherwise!
Thanks again OP! Late to the party as usual. I'm working on my Threeboot cosplay and other crap. I might get someone to make the thing because I'm doing armor. Here's hoping I don't fail horribly.
He had plenty of it in Punisher Max.
What is he, Duke Togo?
For real? The best thing about UA (which were alright for me, most of the run at least) was that resurrected Bob, at last written as a completely mad guy with a savior complex, and not a retard.
Meh. I liked Sentry when he was first introduced as Schizophrenic Superman battling with his own insanity on a daily basis.
They made him into an asshole / stooge for plot purposes.