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It's definitely picked itself up from then, I'd say. Though if you could, I'd start with Worlds Collide, as Worlds Unite was kind of a mess.
Start with #252 after Worlds Collide, you can even read Worlds Collide first, it's newcomer friendly as long as you have basic knowledge of video games.
Then read up until Worlds Unite and skip it. That's actually the thing that I would suggest you to skip. Personally, I thought it started out okay, but then it went to shit. Nose dive is ridiculous.
Don't forget about Sonic Universe. I don't think there ever was a bad Sonic Universe arc, even during Endangered Species it remained decent.
Anyone else really liking these "Letter from The Editor" bits.
And that's the issue.
I think they only started doing them again since the 277.
From what people have gathered, Nepthys is actually a woman, and so far she tops the charts in terms of most menacing amongst the Egg bosses. Also, Thunderbolt isn't really sympathetic despite looking cuddly and having a crush on Eggman, and there's always Wendy Witchkart though she's not an original character.
All in all I think the deer are the token sympathetic villains thus far.
Wow, I'm dumb. I meant Collide, not Unite. For whatever reason, I thought, "well, Sonic and Mega Man work together, so it would be Unite first. Then, with all the characters from all over showing up in the next one, they would be 'colliding.'"
I'm used to getting occasionally shunned for my opinions (;__;), but Unleashed was easily my favourite of the more recent Sonic games I've played. So this is basically what I've always wanted. And StH is known for its large cast, something else that I like, so yeah.
Oh... well, 30+ issues is a good length for an adaptation to me. My only question is where would the book go from there? I should start reading this now.
Thanks for all the replies! I'm thinking of just sticking to StH and SU for now. So skipping Worlds Collide and Unite, and maybe after I've caught up, I'll check out Mega Man and work my way to the crossovers then.
Even still, the third game adaption was kind of rushed, and the second adaption was a bit weak. It really needed more time to be its own thing, I feel.
>Mega Man going on "hiatus"
It just isn't fair.
After catching up with Unleashed adaptation, I suggest you to catch up with Golden Age of Archie's Sonic.
Which is #172-200. That was the best this comic ever was, and now it's pretty much irrelevant, but it's still a fun read all the way through. Not that everything after is worse, but several issues started to be transparent, like Sonic being chained to New Mobotropolis, King Naugus arc taking its sweet fucking time and then Ken Penders happened.
Optional: start with #160, but up until #172 Ian was just cleaning up mess that was left by other writers. Requires some knowledge about Archie's Sonic, because Tommy the Turtles might be literally who to you, but I fucking hate him.
I am not sure if I want my waifu to be happy with someone or be happy that she'll remain pure forever.
I'd go with the whatever makes her happy route, but that's up to you how you feel.
In case you guys forgot, here's what Penders thought, in a world where hedgehogs look like Sonic, a Porcupine should look like.
Later on under Flynn, this is the best they could do with that design.
...God Penders had no imagination whatsoever. Like all the Echnidnas were for the most part clones of Knuckles, only a handful were a color other than red, and they all had Knuckles's dreads with hair just kind of awkwardly growing from their forehead.
I've been thinking about getting into Archie's Sonic comics. There's a lot of stuff butI'm not sure if it's been rebooted or anything or what I probably should skip. I've heard some of the stuff is pretty terrible. But some of it seem to be pretty good too.
1-50 is decent. After that there's a large decline in quality. There's a few good parts in there, but majority is shit.
At 160, a new writer (and still current writer) takes over and immediately brings the quality back up.
At 252, the comic reboots basically, removing all characters and concepts that were tied to previous writers due to a lawsuit (and supposedly another one might occur).
My suggestion on where you should start solely depends on your commitment to it. Starting at 252 is the easiest. Starting from the beginning is a long painful, but more rewarding journey. The most recommended way to get into it that I've seen is to read from the beginning til you get tired of it, then skip to 160.
If you do decide to check out the pre-reboot stuff, the best advice I can give is
don't get too attached like I did.
Is this the official reading order? Or do I just start with the first issue from 1993?
Sonic Super Special #9 & Sonic Super Special #5 (tales of young Freedom Fighters)
Sonic mini series #0-3
Sonic monthly series #1-18
Sonic In Your Face
Sonic #19-24 & Princess Sally mini series #1-3
Sonic & Knuckles
Sonic Triple Trouble
Sonic #28-29 & Tails mini series #1-3
Sonic #30 & Knuckles' Chaotix
Super Sonic vs Hyper Knuckles
Knuckles mini series #1-3
Sonic #37-39, Sonic & Knuckles Mecha Madness & Sonic #40
Sonic #41-42 & Sonic Quest #1-3
Sonic Live & Sonic Super Special #5 (modern Freedom Fighter story takes place between #38 and 47, just sticking it here)
Sonic #43-44 & Sonic 3-D Blast
Sonic Super Special #1
Knuckles monthly series #1-3
Sonic #47-49 & Sonic Super Special #6 (#50 Director's Cut)
Sonic #51-52 & Knuckles #4-6
Sonic Super Special #2
Sonic #53-55 & Knuckles #7-9, leading to Sonic #56
Sonic Super Special #4 & Sonic Super Special #7
Knuckles #10-21 & Sonic #57-67, leading to Sonic #68
Sonic Super Special #8
Knuckles #22-28 & Sonic #69-71
Sabrina the Teenage Witch #28 & Sonic Super Special #10, #11 (Sally Story) & #12 (set between Sonic 71-72 and Knuckles 28-29)
Sonic #72-75 & Knuckles #29
Knuckles #30-32 & Sonic #76-77
Sonic Super Special #11 (Sally story took place before #72) & Sonic #78
Sonic #79-82, Sonic Super Special #13 & Sonic #83-84 (Sonic Adventure adaptation)
Sonic Super special #14
Sonic Super Special #15
Sonic #91-196 (#113 is an adaption of a Sat AM episode)
Sonic X #40 (last page) & Sonic Universe #1-4
Sonic #197-208 & Sonic Universe #5-12
Sonic #209, Sonic Universe #13-16 & Sonic #210
Sonic #211-212 & Sonic Free Comic Book Day 2010
Sonic #213-onward & Sonic Universe #17-onward as of 6/2010
Jumping into the reboot run is easy. It's a mostly clean slate, with the only mess up I think it has for new readers is the memory thing they did.
Jumping into the pre-reboot run would be a bit more difficult. Ian loved taking the old stuff the comic did, even if it was shit, and make it work/turn it into gold. As such, you would need to know about some of these things. Reading from the beginning is the best way to know it, but there is a huge fucking wiki you can use to look up stuff you don't know.
I think you're trying to find a pattern to get angry about when there isn't one. As others have mentioned, Wendy and Thunderbolt and Breezy are all not sympathetic. We have more straightforward evil or morally ambiguous female antagonists than we do sympathetic ones. Hell, Cassia and Clove aren't that different from Baron Beauregard's shtick or Bill Platypus'. There's no gender barrier to being evil or somewhat tragic.
>Starting from the beginning is a long painful, but more rewarding journey
Even googling wikia isn't fucking worth it. There's nothing rewarding about reading 160 issues of mediocre at best to abysmal shit shit.
Reading anything below 160 is a test, test to the autism.
It's not a question of sympathy, it's a question of tragic pasts. We haven't seen T-Bolt's or Wendy's yet but Breezie clearly has had something go wrong (and that's ignoring her clearly false orphan backstory).
At any rate the whole 'I had no other choice' thing is just, eh.
I don't think this is a trend.
Most of the Egg Bosses are in it for themselves. Tundra was an asshole even before joining Eggman, Thunderbolt and Nepthyr are loyal to Eggman and we don't know what Conquering Storm's backstory is now. Phage is also pretty evil.
The only ones with sympathetic backstories so far are the deer sisters and Axel Buffalo (and that is not even much of a sympathetic backstory more than "I just don't wanna be roboticized.")
I think you may be jumping the gun a little bit.
He did. He's gone now, though. Think he works at DC now.
And just to keep in mind, it wasn't directly his fault that Boom was cancelled and Mega Man was put on hiatus. The dropping sales were the reason they quickly started Worlds Unite in the first place.
Who are your favorite Sonic styles/artists? I really like Adam Bryce Thomas, Ben Bates and Patrick Spaziante for the Archie comic. Other than that I also like the Sonic CD anime and the OVA/movie. I also like classic game Sonic and Rush Adventure.
Just call it a hunch, especially in the case of Breezie and I'd bet there'd be something about Thunderbolt being bullied for her size.
Okay that's really stretching with the latter, really I just find this sort of frankly tepid attempt at making the character sympathetic a little mawkish.
>Who are your favorite Sonic styles/artists?
Diana Skelly and Ben Bates
>Golden Age of Archie's Sonic.
>#172-200. That was the best this comic ever was
Nonsense. Have you read the Bollers and Gallagher stuff? I hate that people completely ignore the comics before Flynn came on board just because of Penders. He wasn't the only writer this comic had before Ian Flynn. The Karl Bollers and Mike Gallagher stuff blows everything Flynn has done out of the water.
While I don't hate his work, yeah Ian can be pretty cringey. He's better than Penders by a landslide, but calling his work the best of the Archie series is ridiculous. To be fair, most readers are probably too young to be familiar with the works of Gallagher or Bollers.
>While I don't hate his work
Actually, I take that back.... I hate SOME of his work.
Pic VERY VERY related.
well on the plus side the odds are pretty good that they'll just graft Shard's plot and role onto Gemerl, what we saw of him in the crossover already indicated that he has a similar personality to Shard
I made a redesign of Dr. Eggman/Robotnik for fun. Hope you guys don't mind me posting it here.
They should have gone with Yuji Uekawa's left version that's closer to classic Sonic. Not that I hate the green eyes Sonic or anything.
It isn't much but this is what I've got so far.