So last night's Supergirl hit me with something I never expected; a love of the character Livewire. What can I read, /co/?
bump. I'm curious too, I really hope this light
surgeof popularity she's gotten sticks for a while.
>normies and plebs ITT
Thought I'd ask in a fresh thread for Supergirl.
What was with all the "coming out" speeches? Does that happen in every episode?
She does make some decent appearances in the tie-in comic to S:TAS.
I'm not much of a DC guy, and even less of a Superman guy, but how can you not like Livewire right of the bat?
Granted though, for me I was drawn to her because of based Lori Petty's perfect performance.
this thread needs less shitposting and more Livewire.
But they won't. They never do. They only want names they can list off to pretend like they know what they're talking about. Nerd cred and all that.
/co/ IS a cancerous shithole of a board, and it's because of "people" like you who keep welcoming all these fake readers with open arms. Kill yourself.
People who actually like comics want others to like comics, and are willing to reccomend and discuss them happily.
People just looking for something to feel elitist about do not.
Every board is able to discuss its topic happily except for /a/, who just screams and moans 24/7. They are not an example we should try to follow. /v/ is an infinitely better video games board than /a/ is an anime board.
Your reception here should show you how welcome your attitude is here. Try to lurk more before sticking your dick where it doesn't belong. Now fuck off.
Anyone who is actually interested in comics will seek out the information they need themselves instead of bothering people on some forum for it. It is not my responsibility or obligation to educate anyone on something they should be Googling. This is not a hugbox, and if that's what you want, you need to take your misguided attitude elsewhere.
>connect with people
Why in the flying fuck would I want to connect with the biggest collection of sub-human scum the Internet has ever been host to? I'm not here to be a friend to sociopaths. Fuck you.
You're the reason we don't make rec images anymore. Why do you suck so much? How did you figure out which comics were good just from the blurb?
I bet you go into DCTV and MCU threads and tell them to go to /tv/, so you can further comics discussion, while you simultaneously come in here and prevent comics discussion. Nobody is paying you to police the board, and nobody wants you to, so fuck up.
They are seeking it out in the wrong manner. What retard tries to find information on fucking 4chan of all places?
And the simple fact of the matter is that recs do not work. They never have. Nobody actually reads the recommended works, evidenced by the fact /co/ is still infested with ignorant casuals who don't even possess a passing knowledge of comics.
>How did you figure out which comics were good just from the blurb?
BY ACTUALLY READING THE BOOKS YOU FESTERING SACK OF FUCKTARDED RAT SHIT.
This is actually the sexiest Livewire I've ever seen.
Is this what she looks like in the comics these days, or is it just fanart?
I might have to read Superman comics again...
It's fanart, this is what Livewire has most recently looked like.
>legitimate threat to Superman
>jobs to Batgirl
>Did you just happen to come across these comics?
I went and sought them out. I looked up some names, checked out what seemed interesting, and fucking read them.
>There's nothing with coming here and asking for a starting place.
It's comic books. There is no "starting point", retard. Just pick up anything and read.
Smart and powerful enough to know how to hold a city as big as Metropolis hostage. Superman can actually be hurt by her electricity and in return he can't actually hurt her with his standard abilities without making her vulnerable with water first.
OP here. I love comics. With a passion. I've spent way too much money and time and comics to just be looking for nerd cred. So when I come asking for recommendations on a character I know very little about, I would appreciate it if assholes like you could fuck right off back into your stinking hole and not bother the other people who are actually here to discuss comics readily and happily.
Spare me. If you actually gave a damn about reading comics, you'd have looked it up on Google instead of going to 4chan of all places and asking insipid questions of people who have zero obligation to help you. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and just kill yourself so that the few folks on the board who actually give a rat's ass about comics can discuss them without ignorant casuals like you shitting up every single thread. Faggots like you are only here for fake nerd points and to bitch about Tumblr.
Thanks to the people actually trying to help - I watched STAS here and there as a kid but Livewire never stood out to me back then. Guess it's a renewed interest thing. I'll pick up that recent Batgirl when the trade comes out, but in terms of actually finding older stuff guess I'll just have to wiki and read through it all, hope some of it is decent.
And to the arsewipe who decided I'm not a real comics fan because I asked 4Chan for advice? Go suck a fat one. I'm going to intentionally ask here before googling from now on just to spite you.
Sorry what the fuck are nerd points? Since when was being into comics cool? I read comics because I, surprise, FUCKING ENJOY THEM. And I don't give 2 fucks about tumblr. I just want to read comics, and if I can skip the shit and just read the gold? Great. Because then I'm not wasting my time.
And what's wrong with asking a community for advice? Correct, they have no obligation to help, but some people are willing to. Just because they're a fucking nice person.
I'm done. Go masturbate to your "real" comics collection and leave the rest of us to get on with our lives.
>Since when was being into comics cool?
Big Bang Theory and all these cape movies gave rise to "nerd-ciche". Idiots like you love that shit. Cosplayers are the most visible example.
>And what's wrong with asking a community for advice?
You should be forming your own opinion instead of having a group dictate them for you.
>Just because they're a fucking nice person.
Either you're legitimately insane, or you are hopelessly naive. Either way, you need to leave.
>"Hey comics & cartoons board, can you recommend me some good comics where this character is featured?
Normally I wouldn't be so blunt, but you are a fucking idiot. As is anyone who uses the term 'spoonfeeding.'
And it's not just about what comics, it's about what we think is good. Something you can't just type into a google search.
>And I'll keep reading comics every week. Because I generally like reading them too.
Lying on the Internet is silly, anon.
>it's about what we think is good
You shouldn't give a single solitary fuck what anyone besides yourself thinks is good, drone.
Google that shit, read it yourself, and then decide what YOU thought of it. Goddamn.
I'm against outright spoonfeeding as much as anyone from /a/, but making actual recommendations for someone when they actually want specific information I don't think is a bad thing.
When it's something like, "Hey, I'm not familiar with this character and I'd like some content containing that character that isn't total shit. Any suggestions?" that's fine, but things like "Hey, /co/, I want to get into comics. Recommendations please!" is shit and should be discouraged and the posters ridiculed.
You need to chill the fuck out, calling people faggots and telling them to kill themselves? i think this runs a lot deeper than you thinking its wrong to give out comic advice, so have fun being a little, viscous, lonely, malicious person because its your loss in the long run when you end up alone. :)
Please, explain to me what is good about godlike Superman or Hulk? I say it's fine for someone rare like the Beyonder, but it's not interesting to read about someone like that. It also makes it hard to have large scale things in their world because he could just go and stomp them.
I already am alone on /co/. Almost nobody else actually reads comics.
Though to be fair, that's probably because they know well enough to avoid the wretched things like the goddamned plague.
Oh please, this is the most substantial conversation these idiots have had in months.
But the board is already infested. Where the fuck have you been?
We don't even have storytimes or Win-O threads (newfags don't even know what i'm talking about) or talk about actual comics. It's just shitposting.
I think /co/ used to have a link containing all the issues of Superman Adventures. But with archive.moe gone it's hard to confirm or even find that out.
I guess your only luck is try the torrents. I've got some rare DC stuff through them. But still, yeah, sorry mate.
Then you really have no reason to answer my post if you have nothing else to day than "I just don't have a problem with them".Everyone I know dislikes the characters for that reason.
How the fuck are they fake if they're asking for recs. If they were fake they'd just go fucking skim wikipedia like most of the dumbfucks here. Which I think you may be one of and are desperately trying to fit in by shitting on people as if this were /v/.
You should always encourage people to read so we get fewer ignorant jackass moviefags.
If you want a secret club for epic hardcore geeks such as yourself, go the fuck back to /tv/, /v/ and /a/ and stop shitting up this board with your bad attitude.
It's only in the animated series.
Comics Superman is impervious to basically everything, how could electricity possibly hurt him when he has organs of steel?
In the show he's vulnerable to lots of stuff, like lasers, strong blunt force, extreme heat, etc.
>How the fuck are they fake if they're asking for recs.
That's how you know they're fake. If they had any real interest in comics, they'd just Google the information.
>You should always encourage people to read
Why? I have no obligation to anyone. If the casuals want to talk about comics they should read first, then come here and talk. Until then, they can fuck right off.
Those comics made me believe in Mark Millar.
I have this issue in my folder. Might as well storytime it right now.
I'm downloading some Superman comics at the moment, so I may post others featuring Livewire later. Providing the thread will be alive for a long while.
"Hey wanna needlessly antagonize a super villain with lightning powers who can go toe-to-toe with superman and is only restrained by a single strap across the waist?"
"Yeah and let's be sure to specifically mention every single thing that motivated her to use her powers for nefarious purposes."
"There is no possible scenario stemming from this decision that will result in us being injured either immediately, or sometime down the road when she inevitably escapes from our notoriously porous prison system."
I think this is why I prefer her over Harley Quinn in terms of villainous crazy chick. She was batshit insane from the beginning and didn't have a complex backstory involving abusive relationships.
Possibly explanation is that despite his invincibility, Superman's body still conducts electricity just fine, and electricity still causes pain for the same reason it causes humans pain. While it's not really doing any damage to him, it still hurts like a motherfucker.
I think it's what makes her more interesting, but not as marketable. Harley has both Joker and Poison Ivy to play off of. Livewire is a bit rough around the edges and doesn't play well with others.
She wasn't even "insane", just some realistically negative, morally underdeveloped contrarian who simply didn't want to live getting held back by menial bullshit if she didn't absolutely have to. There was no underlying need for revenge, or validation, or whatever, she simply did what she wanted so she could live comfortably, with the security that an excess in power could absolutely guarantee... All while being put in the same league as an invulnerable boy scout who can juggle cars, and melt solid metal with his eyes.
>Livewire is a bit rough around the edges and doesn't play well with others.
I don't know about that, most of her DCAU appearances had her teaming up with other villains in some capacity. She just never found another character that clicks with her in the same way Brainiac does with Luthor, or Prankster with Toyman, etc. The closest thing she has was Parasite, and obviously that wasn't something that could stick for long.
I really miss god old fashion share threads...
I can't remember the last time we had one. We used to have just constant general recommendation threads to keep the clutter down but that hasn't been a thing in a long time either.
We still spoonfeed at least from time to time...
>le 4chinz is meant for asshole trolz xDD
4chan is a normalfag website now, please take (You)'re retarded sekrit club shit to reddit or SA. (You)'re literally some autistic, edgy faggot that derailed a thread because (You) didn't like it.
Here's another free (You) from (Me) to (You) to go along with (You)'re other (You)s m8.
She was literally just female Howard Stern who got super powers. Before the internet radio shock jocks were the edgy super stars. Parents actually used to get concerned about what their kids listened to on the regular public radio. This wasn't the 1950s or anything this was the late 1990s. Live Wire was just a representation of these real "villians" just like Lex represented the corporate villian.
Because this thread is a shit show and OP is an inept faggot.
You see this shit, you know how long it took me? The amount of time it takes to google the DC wiki, search for Livewire, and follow links, or roughly 90 seconds because I'm a slow typist. It was super fucking easy, so in the future when you dribbling cunts get mad at people who tell you to look for your goddamned self, you can think of how little time and effort it takes and understand why they might be miffed at your expecting them to do it for you.
Livewire's a pretty interesting character power wise. She can take on the Man of Steel, but only when certain criteria are met. She can absorb, store, and channel electricity but not generate it. If she powers up too quickly she will give herself away. She can use powerlines as a form of teleportation, but is not only bounded by the power grid but by an active connection. Technically an energy being, she doesn't need sleep, food, or rest but her body otherwise reacts more or less as a normal human body would. Contact with water causes an uncontrollable discharge of stored electricity and usually renders her comatose.
>possess pc/phone/tablet and internet connection
>know full well what you're looking for
>ubiquitous search engine with billions of dollars in development to make it as easy to use as humanly possible
>this doesn't translate to having some idea of how to find something yourself
Maybe you're just an idiot who could be outsmarted by a chimp.
Maybe in asking for recommendations anon was hoping to hear our critique of Livewire's various appearances so that he or she might avoid reading poorly written appearances while fostering a discussion about the character.
Well by that standard of Strong characters anyone above street tier you hate.
Because being in Hulk's Strength level is actually pretty common. They aren't in his league, because he's a Legacy Character. But many aliens and capes are in his Strength Range. To name a few
Just the common names off the top of my head. The thing is, nearly everyone on that list besides Hercules and Juggernaut all do other things, which make them more powerful.
Hulk peaked Strength. That's it, he's only strong if he gets his hands on you. And even that, Hulk can't do shit to things in Cosmic Tier or higher, because once you are at that level, physical strength doesn't matter. He is the literal example of the most powerful a character can be without getting into Cosmic/Deific bullshit.
Superman on the other hand has a ton of powers and even he gets his ass kicked because he's in the range that he can fight Cosmic or Deific beings, and many of those don't give a shit about punches.
>one guy being an autist and stopping discussion
Ignore him and he'll go away
Honestly I would very much like a change to Superman.
Replace the weakness go magic with Electricity. This still makes Captain Marvel and Black Adam as equal and a threat, since they have electricity. But better explains characters like Livewire and Parasite, as they sap his bioelectric Aura instead.
Really, doesn't change much. But its a clearer understanding for readers, since the rules for magic are always, "Its magic, we don't have to explain shit" it would provide some more consistency to fights.
That's exactly my point, once you hit Cosmic or higher tier, who is stronger than who is decided by who ate their wheaties that morning.
Where as Hulk is the absolute strongest you can be, without hitting that next tier. He's a remarkable character for that.
Just like Cap is the best any human can achieve naturally and Spider-man is the best you can be, without hitting the World Tier.
I think that's just needless changing things and would create Martian Manhunter vs fire inconsistencies all over the place. Magic works nicely with the idea that he has no special immunity to it. Adding an invulnerability to magic just raises a lot of questions.
Right now Magic is inconsistent as Magic Fire hurts him, but fire made by magic doesnt, for example. And Magic is internally inconsistent as Superman can be hurt by some magic and not others. Because that's how magic has to work, it has to be inconsistent otherwise they have to explain magic and at that stage it isn't magic, but a science and that fucks with more stuff as once you explain magic you can explain why it doesn't work.
Magic, you don't have to explain why it works, but you do when it doesn't.
Science, you have to explain why it works, but not when it doesn't.
Then you have characters like Livewire, Parasite as they are exceptions and you can remove them completely from the problem.
That's because of how much power he has, physically he isn't exceptional compared to other Strongs. But since he in essence warps reality to his will, albeit his instability is a problem. He's more powerful, since if I remember correctly he's a result of The Beyonder trying to live a mortal life and his power had to go somewhere and as a result a portion became The Sentry with the negative portion becoming The Void, with them being the same person.
>Magic is inconsistent as Magic Fire hurts him, but fire made by magic doesnt
That's pretty consistent. He isn't weak to magic, he just isn't invulnerable to it. As such magic interacts with his invulnerability based on how it works. Summoning regular fire with magic doesn't hurt him as regular fire is covered by his invulnerability. Summoning magical fire will hurt him as it's not covered by his invulnerability. It's the same thing as Kryptonite radiation versus regular radiation.
>People want to talk about comics and cartoons on the comics and cartoons board
>They actually want to have an interesting discussion
>This will not stand
No idea. I personally don't know many examples. Livewire rarely shows up. I think there are 3~4 stories with her you might want to read but i can't remember which issue numbers they are for you.
A crossover vs Blue beetle
A Superman story pre flashpoint where she's destabilizing and Superman is trying to save her ( personally loved this one)
1-2 other stories that I only saw a page or two of .
He's been knocked out by magical playing cards from a Z-lister solely due to the being magic before.
Regular radiation has actually hurt him recently too but that's just being silly given that if a nuclear reactor could hurt him then the sundipping he does should harm him.
Kryptonite in general is extra dangerous to Superman because his body is designed to soak up radiation and in this case it's a type that's actually dangerous to him.
Continuing Livewire storytime from the issues in which she appears in Superman Adventures.
Storytiming #22-23 now. While she doesn't have a major role here, this is the first story where she tries to be one of the good guys.
Yeah, leotards with simple designs tend to be the best.
I agree with this totally.
No problem man.
I'll have to leave for lunch now, but after that I'll be back to conclude this with one more story arc featuring Leslie.
Ok, I'm back. Time to end this with issues #65-66.
Some OTP material right here.
And that's it. A bit disappointing her redemption stick didn't stay/become canon as she returned to be a villain in some episodes of Justice League, but oh well.
Hope you guys enjoyed reading these.
Millar should be writing Superman right now, not wasting his gift on retarded metahuman gas station attendants.
My fave Supership after
It's actually one of Superman's oldest weaknesses. He's weak to it in the Fleischer cartoons, too. And that was before he could consistently fly even.
Bottom line is that his weaknesses are defined by what the character represents, not to make a balanced powerset or make logical sense. He's weak to magic because Superman has always been a very sci-fi inspired character, and they've always had a scientific explanation for his powers. Originally it was that Krypton has a much more intense gravity than earth so he appears as strong as we would appear if we were on a planet with weak gravity, then they added that kryptonians were more highly evolved people physically, but then why would a race of such powerful people all go extinct? So they changed it so that only a red sun would power his abilities, and to make that make sense they gave a bullshit star trek level of explanation that kryptonians have a bioelectric aura that gets supercharged by radiation from a red sun. They have always been very scientific about things, so it makes sense that the character would be weak against magic, because it's literally breaking the "logic" of the character.
As for the electricity thing it was probably just a weakness because they hadn't really defined what the character could and couldn't do yet, so he was more vulnerable in general whenever the plot called for it.
Recs is literally only part of /co/ that is worth half a dog turd. Everything else is casuals who don't know shit and don't WANT to learn, or rabid fanboys of Moore/Morrisson, and waifufags who jack off to Raven.
No spoonfeeding results in faggots that lurk the boards hoping to learn something about comics, making stupid opinions that are simply repeating memes because they have no opinions on their own.
Spoonfeeding results in these people starting to read comics and having opinions that make SENSE.