Can someone please tell me where this is from.
johnson & johnson been doing it for years with there baby oil.
Sure, why not.
Just a heads up, though. OP's image isn't until the third book.
Yeah. This is a fan translation. I've seen worse, though.
The art is pretty gorgeous, not gonna lie.
Thanks, but since I'm not OP the storytime is bumping itself..
I've got three. I think that's all of them.
Sounds cool. I've never actually heard of it before, thanks for the rec.
>comic about conquistadors
>extremely edgy with baby killing, mass graves, human sacrifice, and people being set on fire while still alive
Okay seriously though? It fucking amazes me what lines people are willing and unwilling to cross.
To be fair, if you want to portray the horrors of La Conquista you probably should include rape. There was a lot of rape.
Also the burnt dude isn't meant to be Cortes, right?
No, he's a different guy. Captain Abatirso.
Also, last page of book 2.
Okay, this is where I stop reading.
This is fucking stupid. Those are women and children, MUCH more valuable alive than dead, there is absolutely no reason for this action to have been taken, and it WOULD NOT have been taken by the Spanish. Nothing but pointless shock value.
For fuck's sake, looks like it was deleted. Probably because it had tits.
Should be in the archive, though.
>it WOULD NOT have been taken by the Spanish
>It's called Helldorado a pun on El Dorado, a place that didn't exist
>it takes place on an island
>on this island there is a civilization akin to Mayans/Aztecs i.e. an advanced stone age/early bronze age culture
>The Indians wear little suits to try and contain the disease
>The Spaniards do the same but they have little lantern headed suits
But THAT'S the historically inaccurate part you have a problem with?!
Fuck you man, fuck you.
you just don't understand the spanish logic, they didn't came to get slaves, they came to conquist. not a single women or children is of any value unless it's made of gold. they destroyed entire cities and civilizations because that's what they do.
He didn't even get far enough to see dialogue, let alone everything else. I don't know what he was expecting, though, given OP's image.
It seems more like just telling a story where every side sucks. It's not really historical beyond the period setting.
> not a single women or children is of any value
> they came to conquist
That's why there was so much rape, they wanted to establish a colony. So they converted\indoctrinated the young in Spanish culture and raped\sometimes-actually-married the women so the next generation would be half-Spanish
Most likely not, but they did kill a shit ton of babies. Proper records, doctrine and such are lacking due to the whole conquest and plague and stuff, but from archaeological evidence corroborated with what we have, the Aztec Empire was at least partially established to acquire new sacrifices through warfare and raiding. And they sacrificed a lot of people, everyday.
But that's neither here nor there. What we have here is a cool story.
>And they sacrificed a lot of people, everyday.
Kinda hard to determine that seeing as how their only real city was destroyed and built over.
Basically what I'm saying it that the whole:
>sacrificing dozens of people daily
thing is hearsay.
It's not hearsay, it's based on solid archaeological evidence that predates European arrival in the Americas aside from the brief Scandinavian settlement.
http://www.ourprg.com/?p=9768 for example.
OMG YOUR IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE HAS SILENCED ME FOREVER!!
I'M RUINED!!......Yeah, nah, your article that you clearly didn't read doesn't say a god damn thing about daily sacrifices.
There goes the high priest.
It's not that kind of comic, anon.
No, but it's an indication of sustained, systematic sacrifices that took place over a long period of time. The numbers of sites and such either show large scale sacrifices or daily sacrifice. I'm too tired and sick to go through the historiography and it's not my specialty so just read up on it, okay? Or how much Mesoamerican historical studies have you read and can cite?
nah, you got all your shit wrong, read a book, mestizos happened because some spanish never went back to spain after the conquista and of course they took women and settled down in america, I know because I'm a mestizo myself. making a new race was never a priority or anything, in fact many of the first mestizos were killed to preserve the purity of spanish race, but then there were so many than they stopped giving a fuck about the killing and just went ahead with the chrystianity stuff.
>mestizos happened because some spanish never went back to spain after the conquista and of course they took women and settled down in america
This isn't true at all.
The conquistadors had no particular qualms about raping the natives or fathering bastard children, but they definitely weren't attempting to do what you describe.
Basically in the new word you have 3 types of Spaniards
-Conquistadors who think natives are degenerate savages who are hiding their gold somewhere near
-Conquistadors who want to get rich and have adventures and don't have any particular opinions on natives
-Jesuit priests who desperately want to turn the natives into good Christians
And the fourth kind of Spaniard; the one who wants to keep shipping the gold home so they can finally take care of those fucking Italians and French. And those Dutch! And all those fucking Germans who aren't following Charles V. And the English are looking kinda funny too...
>so just read up on it, okay?
Spent my entire life reading up on it since I was 12, so not, I won't read up more just to know what I already know.
It IS hearsay, it's been pointed out WHY it's hearsay.
Aztec ruins really only existed in one place and that's Tenochtitlan which was razed to the ground and built over with the creation of Mexico City. Other cities in the Aztec "Empire" belonged to other tribes who were cultural relatives of the Aztecs. Recent excavations (since the construction of the Mexico City Subway system) show signs of some sacrifices but hardly anything that would be construed as daily.
Again, it's hearsay.
You're lumping separate people together out of ignorance.
If I'm remembering things that I've read correctly (and I read them years ago, so do forgive me if I'm wrong), I thought that they had major sacrifices twice a year, during the major holy days. They definitely sacrificed people to sanctify new buildings, but the "Sacrifices all day, e'ery day" is definitely false as far as I can tell.
>We are totes responsible for genociding whole villages and countless atrocities committed against your people
>but lets make a new hybrid civilization why the fuck not?! I'm sure you won't hold a grudge.
mesoamercia needs more stories. they're so alien and exotic and its fascinating all they accomplished with a thousand year handicap and no contact with the old world. all the shit like guns and horses and the wheel that spread through the old world never got to them
also their gods are metal as fuck
>take over Europe
They were almost conquered by a single rogue Spanish fleet.
>be a Moche
>build a civilization out of mud bricks
>worship The Decapitator, a fanged spider god with an insatiable thirst for human heads
>3 decades of torrential rain
>cities literally melt
I know that South-Americans tend to be fairly angry with all the colonization deal. And that Spanish Conquistadores did a lot of awful things. But if you want to be at least somewhat historical, It seems a little exaggerated to depict the spanish as ugly, dirty, balding, wrinkly, ill-skinned men. I think if you demonize them the message comes as more cartoony
Just as a side note. Matador means "killing, murdering" and is applied to something ("calor matador", "killing heat"), it can also mean "slayer".
But in that way it sounds really weird in most of Spain unless it is accompannied by the thing it slays, such as "matador de trolls", "troll-slayer".
It is mostly used as a synonym of bullfighter, but it's more common to hear "torero" instead ("toreador" also sounds weird in most of Spain).
I just say this rant because it is one of those popular Spanish words which are usually used in weird or wrong ways (such as with "bueno..." which does not precissely express liking or agreeing).
So wait. They want to cure the princess with the blood of children because of its purity.
And to get this blood they crush several babies and squeeze all of it, bones, guts, brains, shit an all.
I feel like this comic is a bit excessive and relies on shock value too much.
>We are totes responsible for genociding whole villages and countless atrocities committed against your people
And they're quite guilty of that themselves. Everyone in this comic is an asshole.
This is basically a fantasy comic.
If you want rape in your comics, download anything Mitton ever worked on.
There's a comic about Aztecs invading Europe called Luxley.
>>To be fair, if you want to portray the horrors of La Conquista you probably should include rape. There was a lot of rape.
That's what also kept nagging me.
This is one of those instances where fuckloads of raping actually was common and yet it isn't portrayed.
and then we have comics where the story easily could be grimdark without it and yet it is shoehorned in every 5 pages.
>He was most likely a Jew
Uh... No. Jews were not burnt. They were removed from their possessions and kicked out of the country.
Moors also were not burned.
The burnings were usually done in effigy, and people received humilliating punishments.
It's ironic that the Spanish Inquisition was the root of the political police, using the same tactics for example the Gestapo would use to find and break their targets, but instead is remembered by myths.
The Holy Inquisition, which only answered to the politicad heads, not the religious ones, was the only body capable of acting in all the Catholic Kingdoms, because back them the Iberic Peninsula still was a bunch of separated kingdoms joined under a single crown, but still each wanted to be politically independent from the others. There were cases of important nobles who fled one kingdom to the other to escape justice, only for the inquisition to hunt them down.
The inquisition's objective was to ensure the political homogenity on the kingdoms, and the times they hunted witches or burned people are so few that they are famous events in their history.
I think around Germany the Inquisition was a bunch of psychopatic zealots, but not everywhere.
While historical fantasy fiction acting as a jumping-off point for a discussion of real history is all well and good, some of you guys are taking it way too seriously as a criticism of the actual work. Inaccuracies in a comic that doesn't bill itself as being fact-based are no sin; it's more a conquistador-flavored work of fantasy than actual historical fiction. You know, like how A Song of Ice and Fire has some War of the Roses setup going on, but that's just where it starts from.
That being said, there are plenty of things to roll your eyes at here. A baby-pasting machine, seriously? I mean I know it's just something that made the creator giggle, but it's hard to take the drama seriously when stuff like that's going on. Reminds me of early The Boys.