So what do you think Zaheer says that causes her to make this face?
It's okay, Korra.
Whatever he said, we can get through this.
So, you have a twin sister. Then they lock Korra away and have her twin sister act as the Avatar
>So what do you think Zaheer says that causes her to make this face?
"We tried to kidnap you under the orders of my mother...
"No! That can't be true! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"
"Search your feelings, Korra,
time travel is very real."
>But when you're with him, you're thinking about me.
>Why don't you put your whole dick in a bottle, Korra?
I wonder how much higher the Spongebob repeat that took episode 9's spot at 7:30 will get than episode 8?
You messed up the line.
You speak my name, but you do not know me! I am Zaheer, Ch'rell, Oroku Saki, Duke Acureds, the one true Shredder! I am a destroyer of worlds, and I fear no-one!
...I would cum buckets.
Which brings me to my next big problem with this inevitable upcoming fight.
Everyone is sucking the Exbendables collective dick. Yet I know we're going to have Mako and Bolin manage to stand up to them. Sure we see Bolin running away and Mako getting pinned. But you know that's only round 1.
No, Lin fights Zaheer. And I think all of this happens in episode 9 anyway.
What it looks like is the Red Lotus takes them by surprise at night, Korra gets knocked out and Mako tells Asami to grab her and run while he and Bolin try to hold off Ming and Ghazan. While they get their asses handed to them, Asami and Korra try to flee on Naga but someone stops them. People think it's P'li and Zaheer or the Earth Queen's forces.
That sort of hidden basement room probably isn't uncommon in Zaofu. The place closes up at night, it was definitely built with the idea of people being able to hide in case of danger in mind.
Shouldn't she be against Ming Hua instead? Shock glove to the water arms and all. Especially if the waterbender just thinks the glove is a bulky accessory she won't be as alerted to it like if she was fighting a firebender.
Well, Episode 10 I think is called "Long Live the Queen"
What if the Hannibal Lecter deal is in fact be the Queen's doing.
That'd be an interesting twist. The Exbendables try to capture Korra, only to have to rescue her from the royal bitch
Also possible. But then how would that work?
Even if Su is a member of the ORL, which is really starting to seem like it may be the case at this point, isn't a little stupid to send Korra away from Zao Fu to get captured by the bads just to have her brought back to Zao Fu to be imprisoned?
I want to see her use the Avatar State and still fail to break free. just strapped down with glowing, spinning in the middle of the air in the vain hope of breaking free from the platinum nylon of her strait jacket.
And then fucking Varrick shows up dressed like this:
Friday can't come fast enough.
With a crew like this just with masks from Love Amongst the Dragons
then switches to his Iron Man suit that's in the suit case
P'li is hetero and has Zaheer. Now what would make more sense is the two of them wanting a kid but are not able to have one. So they wanted to adopt the Avatar.
Cue incest with Korra and P'li. Ming Hua can help.
"Material possessions are the root of evil!"
"Join me and let's bring revolution to the earth kingdom and republic city!"
"the republicans and the qing dinas... i mean republic city and the earth queen are corrupt!"
Nick is shit at scheduling for any show they don't run in week long marathons. Hell they are lucky to have a constant schedule. Most their Tween Sitcoms aside from iCarly Have barely around 52 episodes over five to seven years.
Sponge is dying slowly and the overall network isn't that far behind. Sam and Kat getting axed likely won't help things as their new replacement looks to be a short runner, In that whatever has already been ordered will be all they'll make and just run those forty or so episodes over and over for the next few years.
>"you are a fake avatar"
>mfw they found a way to insert more than one element into people
How would an alternate universe, where the Exbendables successfully kidnapped and raised Korra as their own, have gone? I feel like Zaheer would have be a good father figure for Korra, actually.
Well yeah, Katara is a shit tier headmaster for Avatar Education.
>Didn't get Toph to teach Korra Metalbending and Earthsense
>Didn't teach Korra Bloodbending
>Didn't get anyone to teach Korra lightning
>Didn't get anyone to teach Korra lightning
>Airbender philosopher Korra with P'Li and Ghazan's tats and able to switch from combustion bending to lavabending on the fly
She didn't need Ghazan's tattoos to bend, but she thought they were cool.
> not teaching Korra bloodbending
Please. That's hardly a failing by any REASONABLE measure.
Lightning and Metalbending could be considered as much given that A. Korra is a prodigy and B. they're mass-produced techniques in this era.
However, I think having Korra learning the basics of all 4 elements may have been considered a higher priority. The Avatar achieving "balance" within themselves by demonstrating an understanding of all elements is obviously an act of symbolic importance.
I don't think it would've worked in the long term. She would've turned on them as soon as she connected to her past lives and Aang showed her how the Red Lotus kidnapped her, probably killed some people including her dad to do it and how they were just using her, then she'd probably end up killing them then crying as she realizes that the only people she's known her entire life were nothing more than murderers who were training her as a weapon.
On second thought, that could be a great fanfic story complete with a redemption arc.
>Please. That's hardly a failing by any REASONABLE measure.
>Let's not teach the Waterbending Avatar the only defense against a technique that can render even the avatar helpless.
>Lightning and Metalbending could be considered as much
They also didn't teach her lightning redirection (but Mako can do it)
What were you thinking Brychael come on.
>However, I think having Korra learning the basics of all 4 elements may have been considered a higher priority.
Aang did all that shit in a year.
Korra should have gotten lightning/redirection and earthsense at least. Bloodbending we can pass because kid's show and Katara is super stupid about it. At least she had the decency to give Korra healing.
Mako didn't need lightning, he and bolin don't need super special bending techniques, they're pro athletes and their strength should be teamwork like we've seen last few episodes.
No, he came back after having let the world suffer for 100 years, then let his past lives fix the FIre Lord.
Then Korra fixed the air nomad thing because apparently Aang couldn't even be assed to fuck his hot brown wife more often..
>mfw Pema, Korra and Asami all reveal they're pregnant in the series finale
Silly samefag, we both know it shames ATLA since that's Aang's story. Having a grim end to his saga actually be that he gets murdered and nobody finds out is absolutely awful.
Liked it'd be that surprising that Aang got killed. But you're right, the bitching and moaning from the fandom wouldn't be worth it.
And I think if they killed Aang that would have been mentioned by now.
Korra's expression doesn't look nearly as horrified as it should be if that's the case. And how could they keep it a secret? Unless Aang's body was dumped on Katara's doorstep at 3am or something.
You don't know anything about image editing and how if you don't save it properly I can just reverse what you did, huh?
You guys are honestly stupid, I'm not kidding. How dumb are you to not take what we know about Aang's death and combine it with the notion he was assassinated.
It implies the world doesn't know, ergo they poisoned him or made it look natural in some manner.
I can see Bryke doing a lot of things, having Aang murdered isn't one of them. Never mind the fandom would be out for the RL's blood and anything less than them dying would piss people off even more.
It's a joke.
> "sorry, this video is unavailable from your location"
he was a master at hand to hand combat before
so it's possible he styled his martial arts after airbending techniques, and thus after he got airbending he merely had to add "+air" to his techniques
Hey guys, what do you think about this spoiler from episode 10?
Also, Nick seems to keep a lot of things stored in their websites.
they removed aang's avatar memories and inserted them on korra as an experiment, hence the lack of raava
>following this we discover aang is still alive
>inb4 no one gets this is a joke
>inb4 it actually happens
>Aang did all that shit in a year.
not very well and he was still always incredibly dependent on his airbending. Korra waterbends so rarely that you wouldn't even think she was a waterbender.
>Mako getting #rekt
>Bolin fighting for his life
>Lin vs Zaheer
>Zaheer shaolin kicking a fucking boulder
dis gon be gud
I'm going to be disappointed if she doesn't make a Hannibal quote.
This. I want this.
He was a troubled man who got a cheap shot in on Aang early on, and then sought to redeem himself and learned the ways of the air nomads, that's why he's dedicated his time to learning about them. He's trying to atone!
Screencap this I know it.
I FIGURED IT OUT HES HER BROTHER AND SHES ADOPTED THEIR REAL PARENTS DIED
>So what do you think Zaheer says that causes her to make this face?
"Spongebob is water bending master and the leader of red lotus."
How long until the rest of the season get dumped online all at once?
here's a youtube link:
Book 4: Korra travels back in time to rewrite history because of reasons
Highlight: Korra duels the past avatars.
>Korra goes in the future
>I finally see my dream of futuristic Avatar
Well, Aang was originally from a technologically advanced nation before everyone died out. Hell, Momo was going to be a robotic monkey. No seriously, look it up.
Korra would fight combustion girl
because she's already you to everything blowing up in her face
>Avatar, what you know about Zaheer?
>Tell me, your majesty, did you eat Bosco yourself?
>Did you eat your father's pet bear?
>Yes, I did
>Tough wasn't he?
>Amputate a woman's arms and she can still feel them tickling. Tell me, your majesty, when your Dai Li are on the slab where will it tickle you?
>Take this thing back to her cell!
>Five foot eleven, strongly built, maybe two hundred pounds, shaven head, dark eyes. Probably in his mid fifties. He said he was an Air Acolyte but may have lied. That's all I can remember, your majesty, but if I think of any more, I will let you know. Oh and your majesty, just one more thing. Love your gown!
I really, really want a 3 series taking place with an earth avatar set in the near future, with Future Industries being profitable in the space race and humanity branching out towards other planets.
>fighting waterbender space pirates
>on a moon
>and team avatar now has a rocket ship
it'd be interesting if someone tried it. I mean, what happens to a society that's based in magical mysticism when it evolves to become more technologically proficient? LOK kind of does that but we need to take it further.
This can only cause some very interesting korra bondage porn.
Until they wreck all of your crap. Because you're ignoring them. I think it would be more interesting to explore it in a futuristic setting.
But now spirits within style. Never spirits within style.
I could see spirits still being useful within a couple hundred years, sure.
But what use would it have to a civilization that's too busy trying to create warp drive or some shit.
And after some point humans would probably get fed up and just leave earth behind.
>The White Lotus Abducted you from your parents when you were younger after you were discovered to be the avatar
>The parents tried to take you back but were killed in their attempts by the White Lotus
>They brainwashed you into a different childhood and placed you in a different family that was compliant with the White Lotus order.
>We are here to show you the truth, we will uncover what they tried to bury from you. From there is your decision if you are with us or against us.
From there they will try to unbrainwash her and will learn the truth. Calling it now.
How can people ignore every canon detail presented so far in the show?
For real, what writer have you been exposed to that leads you to make such logical leaps?
There must be a source. a "Patient 0" for retarded shark jumping writing.
You have to take in consideration that we are talking about Korra here.
After seeing shit like Bend-Blocking Waterbenders and a fucking DARK AVATAR its not hard to imagine something stupid as fuck to come from it.
I mean we are still also expecting that Bolin will somehow learn lava bending before metal bending.
I was about to ask where the Earth Kingdom managed to find mugshots for the four of them, but then I realized that they had all been arrested in Republic City at one point or another.
This team needs to get its shit together, jesus.
>Dat feel when Korra has learned absolutely nothing since the start of Book 1
Simply put, she is a terrible person and terrible Avatar. I feel sorry for the next Avatar who will only have her for guidance.
Implying that if he didn't do the things he did, he would of died because of the raids. He came back, learned all elements in a year, got full control over his avatar state, ended the war AND banged the hottest girl.
>he would of died because of the raids.
No he wouldn't. the Avatar State would have kicked in, he'd have easily defeated the army at his temple, saving 1/4th of the Air Nomads. Afterwards, he'd be able to directly stop the Fire Nation from expanding instead of allowing them 100 years to expand their influence and torment generations of SWT and EK citizens.
BAM, decades of suffering and genocide averted, if only Aang hadn't run away.
Well, we have fanart and audio of Korra singing about her Vagina and in a Duette with Azula.
Now we need a collab between Varney and Rollins, along with the fanart.
Especially if they get all the exbendables playing.
As big a failure as I think Korra is, the problem is that Aang's whole winning the war thing relied on him using the Avatar state. Not mastering it, just going into it. And from what we've seen, he was capable of doing that back before the war started. Otherwise he wouldn't have been able to freeze himself in the first place.
Remember, its in the Avatar state that he schools Ozai and is about to kill him, right? So what's to say he couldn't have done that to Sozin? The only thing Aang had on his own that he couldn't have done from minute one is the revised victory where he uses tremor sense to deflect Ozai's attack and energybends his powers away. But again, that's after he'd already all but won.
Or you could just get implants that allow you to bend using a combination of spirit bullshit and tech.
Now people can bend more than one element. And when everyone's the Avatar, no one will be.
He was caught a couple times, but from memory i think he wasn't caught fo...
Oh wait, yes he was arrested in Omashu for fucking up the postal system. Not thrown in proper prison, but definitely arrested.
that her family is part of the red lotus
that's why the whole 'safety' about korra throughout the series has been important.
red lotus wants her/needs her alive. she's the final key for making the world change (progress) and leave the old world behind. they're going to use the 100 year war / the lives lost when the firelord was hungry to power and almost destroyed the earth kingdom.
now it's about unifying the people for progress. all benders and non benders working to a single goal.
also there'll be no season 4. it'll be in comic form (maybe).
>also there'll be no season 4. it'll be in comic form (maybe).
It's already being animated and Nick is contractually obligated to distribute it upon completion.
... that said Nick'll probably just dump the whole fucking season at once.
God fucking damn it!
This isn't how you do online content.
I just want to binge the rest of the season and be done with it already.
I ain't got time for this shit. I got work to do, places to be and people to kill.
Yeah I'm just waiting to see how they'll try and slide the 4th season under the rug as quick as possible. Probably won't announce it at all, or just offer it as bonus material on the 3rd season dvd set for a smooth, extra few bucks.
funny anecdote about those mugshots team avatar has
>If you are wondering when Team Avatar had their mugshots taken, think back: each one of them has been arrested at one point—sometimes at two points! We tried to make sure they had the right outfits on to match those events.
Watch it anyway. It's not as bad as people say, it's just that Korra acts like a cunt because she's desperate and it rubbed people the wrong way a lot.
That and the shitty villain and the awful animation in the first half killed the season for most people, but it still has good moments.
i think korra's personality was both a positive and negative for book 2. negative in that she was kind of unbearable in the beginning, and it retroactively took away much of her development from season one. but on the positive, there was a very clear character arc for her that is probably the best and most underrated part of book 2. I mean we really see her personality change as the story goes on, which culminates in her journey to the spirit world, where her personality is literally personified as a stubborn child until she is reborn as a more mature adult.
>I mean we really see her personality change as the story goes on, which culminates in her journey to the spirit world, where her personality is literally personified as a stubborn child until she is reborn as a more mature adult.
And that development gets shit on again in book 3.
I don't even see it that way, Korra's personality being abrasive as fuck was justified. It wasn't even character regression, she was just panicking and lashing out. But since /co/ was already looking for more reasons to shit on the show, they had that one handed to them on a silver platter.
No it didn't. Korra's development was never even actively regressed between book 1 and 2, just... not dealt with in the finale.
>that said Nick'll probably just dump the whole fucking season at once.
That's the best method for online streaming though.
The whole point of the service is so that viewers can watch the show at their own leisure, outside of the constraints of TV scheduling. If the viewers chosen pace is all the episodes in one day long marathon then so be it.
Yes, you're right. The new Korra is much more mature, calm and collected this season. I mean the old Korra would have just rashly gone after Aiwei, who is in league with the 4 most powerful benders in the world, without a plan or any proper back up...oh...wait...
Something small but in the preview they talked about everyone but Lin, Suyin, and Opal as well as the airbenders. I wonder if they are keeping it a secret due to it being surprising. Most likely though it's just a "they weren't in this episode so we won't include them."
>mfw Opal is being deployed to the Northern Air Temple to neutralize the threat the new airbenders pose to the Red Lotus' plans
>mfw she and the Exbendables go Order 66 on the new airbenders
>Suyin: Here's to Opal may she help lead us into the new era..
Fifty bucks says Opal is the one who tries to kill Kai
>yfw She knows how to compress air to make explosions, thus the reason for the smoke.
Personally, I think he would've died alongside the other airbender at his temple. Everytime Aang ever went into the avatar state prior to learning and mastering the other elements he only ever used or displayed brute force with little to no finesse or well targeted attack, only using AOE attacks that could hurt people around him.
At the Air temple he created a small tornado but anyone on the inside could've easily taken him down, at the Earth kingdom military camp he did one display of earthbending and some wind and failed to even hurt General Fung when he thought he killed Katara (and yes I've seen the clip Aang only attacked the guy with a small gust before the guy subsequently showed him Katara was safe), in the Desert he created a small sandstorm and some air around him but even Katara walked right up to him and she was fine. Aang's never used the Avatar state in a real life or death situation where there are multiple master benders attacking him and trying to kill him, the one time he did, Azula quickly put him down.Any other time, it was after he'd mastered the elements
For the most part Aang in the avatar state only ever just stayed in one static position high up in the air where anyone could attack him, for example Azula, the only time he showed any real targeted attacks that wouldn't also hurt his friends and everyone around him was when he was possessed by Roku during the solstice. And let's not forget that Sozin expressly sent an army during the comet for the purpose of killing the avatar and all the nomads, and considering he knew Roku and personally saw and knew how powerful Roku and by extension an avatar and the avatar state was, I'm willing to bet that Sozin felt pretty confident that his raid could work.
>Tenzin's face when
Oi vey! It's a nutha shoah!
>Everytime Aang ever went into the avatar state prior to learning and mastering the other elements he only ever used or displayed brute force with little to no finesse or well targeted attack, only using AOE attacks that could hurt people around him.
Every time he went into the Avatar State he displayed tremendous technique on top of power, but it was indiscriminate. However, He'd be targeting the Fire Nation. He never attacked his friends in the Avatar state, just caused a lot of collateral damage.
Aang in the Avatar State, under full comet power, he'd have destroyed the entire FN army.
>At the Air temple he created a small tornado but anyone on the inside could've easily taken him down
He wasn't fighting anyone.
>Aang's never used the Avatar state in a real life or death situation where there are multiple master benders attacking him and trying to kill him
Fire Temple, Episode 1 on Zuko's Ship, and in the Book 3 finale.
Aang in the Book 3 finale was every bit as berserking as any other time. And there is no way any army of firebenders could have touched him.
>the one time he did, Azula quickly put him down
That was the one time he did it CONSCIOUSLY. That's why he lost.
To me, absolute loyalty only works if the person is either kept ignorant of other opposing views and sometime even the truth, or that person knows about the other options and chooses for themselves. Korra at some point would connect with her past lives or at least be contacted by them like she was with Aang giving her visions of Yakone before she finally decided to listen to them. After that, all Aang would have to do is show her the truth, through his and her own memories, about how Zaheer and the Red Lotus kidnapped her, hurt the people who actually cared for her and how the side she would be fighting against, the White Lotus, aren't actually bad and had even been Aang's friends.
Sure after that it would be up to Korra to decide what she would do but learning that pretty much your whole life was a lie and that these people around you are likely just using you for their own means, my guess is that Korra would lash out at them.
>massive coccoon of trojans
That's not giant wooden horses work.
The trojan, for all intents and purposes, is the cocoon. Why would you hide your soldiers in a giant wooden horse and then wrap that giant wooden horse in a cocoon? Why would the city of Troy accept a giant cocoon? Why would anybody think that the city of Troy accept a giant cocoon?
Think this shit through, God damn...
Because if the Trojans are in a giant coccoon when the greeks come out of their horse they won't find anyone around, only t have the tables turned on them when the trojan cocoon bursts.
Trojans in the modern sense are less small armies of stab-happy dudes sneaking into all ur base and more...
Viruses hiding in porn and/or videos you hope to be Korra leaks.
Don't judge me.
>Every time he went into the Avatar State he displayed tremendous technique on top of power, but it was indiscriminate. However, He'd be targeting the Fire Nation. He never attacked his friends in the Avatar state, just caused a lot of collateral damage. Aang in the Avatar State, under full comet power, he'd have destroyed the entire FN army.
He did use some high level technique but all of them were too general to the point that people around him that he's friend with could've gotten hurt, see the desert episode where Sokka grabs Toph so that they don't get hurt when Aang goes avatar state and at the air temple, he easily could've hurt his friends, Sokka himself said that Aang was gonna blow them off the mountain.
>He wasn't fighting anyone.
True but it shows that under extreme emotion he can hurt people around him, like when Sokka thought they'd be thrown off the mountain.
>Fire Temple, Episode 1 on Zuko's Ship, and in the Book 3 finale. Aang in the Book 3 finale was every bit as berserking as any other time. And there is no way any army of firebenders could have touched him.
1. Aang was only being attacked by Zuko prior to going into the Avatar state which happened in the ocean where he was under no pressure, no one else other than Zuko was attacking him and no one was attacking him after Aang went avatar state either. When I mean life and death and multiple benders I maen full on battalions and formations of master firebenders attacking and we all know that Zuko tends to job and he's not that good a firebender anyway especially not comet level.
2. At the end of book 3, Aang had mastered the other elements and had unlocked all the chakras necessary to control and use the Avatar state, in fact he was in full control of it and using it's full power, which is why he was able to exit it when he wanted to before he'd killed Ozai, everytime Aang ever went into it before unlocking the chakras for control he had to be calmed down by Katara.
Is it even possible to hide virus inside video file? I mean, it is, but I don't think that player would execute the malicious code - it should only decode digital video/audio data, and those decoders probably shouldn't have access to modifying file system
Look, you're grasping at straws pretty hard to make your theory work.
The fact is simple: Aang, while on the Avatar, was never once in any kind of danger. No one came even close to harming him when he was berserk. The only time he was hit during the Avatar State, was when he was in control himself, which would not be a factor during the invasion.
And no, Sozin's army coudn't have hurt him, because he'd be equally boosted as them by the comet, plus the Avatar State powering up all his elements.
So no, in a situation where aang stayed, it's extremely unlikely he'd have died.
"Captain. There's something at the gate."
"What is it?"
"It appears to be a bunch of tiny wooden horses... INSIDE A GIANT FUCKING WASP NEST."
"Bring it in. I want to poke it.
With this stick. ?_?"
>Aang in the Avatar State, under full comet power, he'd have destroyed the entire FN army.
And just to add to this, there's a reason Roku told Aang to master the four elements and to not use the Avatar state as much. It's not always a magic "I win" button especially not against an entire organized army pumped up on comet juice with the sole intent to kill the Avatar. In fact roku stated that Aang had to defeat the fire lord before the comet because even Roku knew that fighting against an army and a fire lord with that kind of power even after mastering the elements would be difficult. Aang just got lucky that he was able to isolate the Fire lord to have one on one fight or he could've easily lost. How was he gonna be able to beat an entire Fire Nation army when he'd never learned to bend the other elements cause Aang never used all four elements in Avatar state until he mastered the other elements and unlocked the chakras and he'd never learned to focus that power which General Fung said they'd have to work on
>Fire Temple, Episode 1 on Zuko's Ship
And let's not forget that Zuko needed to capture the Avatar alive in order to regain his honor, so he wasn't even trying to kill Aang.
>That was the one time he did it CONSCIOUSLY. That's why he lost.
And doing it consciously at a time when he'd unlocked the chakras should've made him more powerful since he could better target and attack and use his moves in a smarter way but he still got taken down because just like with every other time except during the end of book 3, he just hung there in the air defenseless while everyone except Azula just stared at him instead of attacking.
>And doing it consciously at a time when he'd unlocked the chakras should've made him more powerful since he could better target and attack
No, doing it consciously meant giving his inexperienced ass in control of a nuke which is why he got his ass beat.
Aang is untouchable while berserk in the Avatar State. The Book 3 Finale more than showed it.
She isn't being rash about it. She stood down when the plan was to follow Lin's orders. First and second season Korra would have had her leaving before Suyin showed up. Instead she's being patient, working out plans (and there is a plan they have, as much as you can for tracking someone down), and actually listening to advice.
She's shown a massive improvement over previous seasons.
Except Aang was also in control of himself in the Book 3 finale and most importantly, had mastered the other elements so he wasn't really berserk. He had unlocked all the chakras, with the rock unclogging the pathways and he was able to exit it when he wanted to, in this case right before he would've killed Ozai, in fact right after that, Aang was able to temporarily access the Avatar state to raise the ocean.
Everything he did in that fight in the avatar state was different than the way he'd fought in the avatar state prior to mastering the elements and unlocking the chakras 1. He used all four elements simultaneously where before he had only used one or two. 2. He used attacks meant to attack a single opponent and track him down where before he used moves that attacked anything around him or used AOE attacks. 3. He did extensive displays of bending whereas before mastery of the elements and chakra unlocking he maybe did one or two air or water spouts and that one earthbending crush against General Fung. 3. He didn't just hover in the air before finally attacking unlike every other time he did it. 4. He moved around in the fight to attack his opponent, also unlike every other time prior to mastering the four elements and unlocking the chakras.
Before the end of book 3, Aang was stationary in the Avatar state, hovering around in plain sight in a way where anyone could attack him if they'd wanted to, with no real grasp of the other elements, using moves that could affect anyone else around him including other airbenders (good luck flying when Aang creates a small tornado), with as far as we've seen 100 years later, one display of avatar earthbending, a small display of avatar waterbending and no feats of cloudbending or firebending before he'd learned to bend these elements and mastered them. He'd be glass cannon spamming large moves up against true masters hopped up on comet roids, he'd be like Zhao up against pretty much an army of Zheong Zheongs.
>Except Aang was also in control of himself in the Book 3 finale and most importantly, had mastered the other elements so he wasn't really berserk
Stopped reading right there, I think it's safe to say you have some actual mental disability.
How do you know it actually is a video file anyway? It can be a script with a hidden extension and a fake icon. That's how the ILOVEYOU virus spread.
inb4 it's not a virus it's a worm
>Highlight: Korra duels the past avatars.
>Korra goes back in time
>gets all the Avatars from across history
>The Expendables have taken the northern air temple
>Korra comes back to the present with all the Avatars
>"ZAHEER, YOUR AVATAR HAS RETURNED, AND I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE EXPENDABLES
>shot of Korra climbing up the northern air temple
>Book 4: The End Begins
>mfw Korra turns in to Korratos
Lies, Ikki is.
That's cause no one was ever attacking him trying to kill him. Zuko was the only one attacking him on the ship before Aang went avatar state and Zuko was only tying to capture him anyway for "honor". Everyone other time, he was around people who were not attacking him or had no reason to attack him but easily could, at the air temple, in the desert, at the Earth Kingdom place with General Fung, it was only at the end of book 2 that people were out to get him and, yeah he got taken down but almost every other time he was in avatar state it was always the same shtick he glows and hovers in the air using water or air.
And Aang had never used the elements in any other mode than Avatar mode (until learning them 100 years later) and never used all four of them especially at the same time, he had one display of earthbending, one/two displays of waterbending, but never large enough or impressive enough moves to take down an army and definitely no firebending. He would've gone avatar state, hovered in the air, used mostly airbending (which is what he usually did in avatar state) and get taken down at some point, considering that it only takes one hit from a comet powered bender. And you still didn't refute that he had no real defenses besides an air dome around himself in these modes which was a horrible defense. Katara easily walked right through them each time and in the desert he didn' t even know it was Katara behind him touching him until he turned around, so had it been a sandbender, it's gg Aang, gg Avatar spirit
Not only that, but Sozin himself had known the previous avatar, and saw how powerful Roku was, you think he'd send a bunch of scrubs to take down the avatar and the air temples.
He was only a real serious threat when he had mastered the elements and unlocked the chakras for control which didn't happen until the end of book 3.
>All the wisdom and power of the prevous avatars
Face it, buddy. Learning the elements has no effect on the Avatar State. None at all.
You're writing some pretty involved fanfiction, but there's nothing that explicitly indicates any of it. Aang became unbeatable in the Avatar State, no one came close to touching him, and he WAS attacked in it. In an event like the Airbender Genocide, the previous Avatars would have lain down the law.
So the fact that he was able to exit the state when he wanted to whereas every other time Katara had to calm him down, and the fact that seconds later he was able to consciously and willingly temporarily go into the avatar state to raise the ocean doesn't show you that he had control of himself? That and the fact that in the Avatar Extras for book 3, it outright states that Aang is a fully realized avatar as of that episode in that very moment he enters the avatar state, meaning he has control of himself in the avatar state isn't enough proof for you.
I'll concede that he was angry, I'll concede that the other avatars were influencing him, but he knew full well what he was doing and could control and stop himself and did. while before, he always told Katara that he had no memory of it or couldn't control himself.
>So the fact that he was able to exit the state when he wanted
At the end, after being out of control and almost killing Ozai. If you are unable to grasp such obvious storytelling, you definitely have a disability. He blatantly regained control, he didn't throw a a pissy fit to change his mind at the end. He was using deadly attacks, actively trying to kill Ozai.
>seconds later he was able to consciously and willingly temporarily go into the avatar state to raise the ocean
Hurr, because he regained control. He SHOULD have been able to use the Avatar State consciously in book 3, but couldn't because he was blocked. The way and the situation that restored his Avatar State was traumatic, and sent him berserk again. Once that was done and he recovered, he was in full control. But Aang never once fought with the Avatar State in the original series.
Can anyone list off every time the Gaang and Krew got arrested?
I know Toph was arrested in The Runaway. Aang was arrested in Avatar Day. Katara and Sokka was arrested with Aang in the Haru episode?
Korra was arrested when she first arrived in Republic City, and the brothers and Asami was arrested when Tarrlok was rounding up those non-benders.
That's all I've got, but there's more, right?
>Let's not teach the Waterbending Avatar the only defense against a technique that can render even the avatar helpless
It doesn't, Avatar state beats bloodbending, we've seen Aang demonstrate that. Also bloodbending is illegal.
>Aang did all that shit in a year.
Toph and Zuko make it very clear in the finale that Aang is nowhere near mastery of Earth and Fire.
Aang and Roku didn't know that until Book 3 when Zuko told them about the plan which Ozai didn't even conceive of until all of book 1 and 2 occurred and Zuko had been taken back with both arms by his father and Zuko told Ozai that the Earth Kingdom are a strong resilient people, which subsequently gave Ozai the idea to burn down the Earth Kingdom (at a meeting mind you Zuko stated happened sometime prior to the eclipse). And besides the writers probably didn't even know that was gonna happen until book 3.
>It doesn't, Avatar state beats bloodbending,
No shit, after it's learned. If you haven't learned it, you're helpless. And it's illegal because the very person who taught Korra is an idiot.
>Aang is nowhere near mastery
He's good enough to beat almost every bender in the world. While he still had to learn more, he learned more about all elements in a year than any other avatar learns about a single one in two.
>Aang and Roku didn't know that until Book 3
Roku specifically says Ozai will use the comet to win the war. Not because it was dangerous to Aang, if it was about him all he had to do was hide underground for the 5 minutes of the comet's influence.
Watch the scene with Avatar Extras on, this pops up just before and during when Aang enters the Avatar state, it states
>11. The official title of this episode is, "Sozin's Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang".
>12. It alludes to Aang becoming a Fully Realized Avatar.
>13. Speaking of which ...
>14. A Fully Realized Avatar has control while in the Avatar State ...
>15. ... And the Avatar State gives him the knowledge and power of all past Avatars.
>16. In other words, the "Phoenix King" is in trouble. "
This is all before Aang starts attacking and using "deadly attacks" trying to kill Ozai. So it's not just me saying it, it's the writers of the show themselves outright stating it. Face it, Aang clearly had control.
>Clearly in control
>trying to kill Ozai
>ready to give him the deadly blow and sentencing him to death
By the way, the "Avatar Extras" are notoriously noncanon. They fucking support Zutara for fuck's sake.
But Aang and Roku thought Ozai would use the comet to take Ba Sing Se not burn the whole Earth Kingdom. That's why they want to wait until after the comet, since they think he's got no use for it anymore.
Exactly. Roku warned Aang because he wanted to avoid Ozai using the comet to win the war. He didn't expect them to win before that, so that's why the Gaang no longer had urgency, until Zuko told them Ozai was going to burn everything.
The way I saw it was that Aang was in auto-pilot. He was still struggling with whether or not to kill Ozai and although he probably could call the Avatar State off at any time, he was just letting it fight because it took the decision of whether to kill him or not out of his hands.
When finally faced with the possibility of ending him, that's when he steps in.
Either way, Roku had no idea that that Ozai was gonna burn everything down, he only knew that of course the fire lord would use the boost to win the war but not how. Zuko himself stated that the plan only came about the day before the Eclipse at a meeting and only after Zuko himself stated during that meeting that the Earth kingdom would remain resilient and survive as long as they had hope or something and Ozai took that to mean that they should extinguish all hope by burning everything down.
Doesn't matter anyway, I'm not arguing about whether Aang could win the war in the present time solely using the avtar state, I'm arguing that he would've lost against sozin's army 100 years ago because the avatar state, while powerful, is still not gonna work well for a bender who literally at that point had never bent anything else or ever met his past lives against an firebending army powered by the comet and sent by a man who knew and even faced the previous fully realized avatar personally and thus wouldn't underestimate the new avatar.
I was comparing it to the Ozai situation because if as the other poster stated,
>Aang in the Avatar State, under full comet power, he'd have destroyed the entire FN army.
the avatar state could do that for 12 year old "I'm the avatar?", "never learned to bend anything else" Aang as he was a 100 years ago then why did roku even tell aang to master the other elements, why not just possess Aang at some point during the Avatar state or more personally like he did during the Solstice or like Avatar Kyoshi did during Avatar Day and just beat their asses. Answer, cause it's not that powerful in such amateurish hands especially during a comet against a whole army sent specifically to kill you.
Those are not pictures, but sketch drawings of them, they are clearly hand drawn
>Either way, Roku had no idea that that Ozai was gonna burn everything down, he only knew that of course the fire lord would use the boost to win the war but not how
Irrelevant. Roku wanted to avoid another genocide.It had nothing to do with protecting Aang.
>is still not gonna work well for a bender who literally at that point had never bent anything else or ever met his past lives
This has no effect on the Avatar State.
>against an firebending army powered by the comet
The Avatar State is also powered by a comet, so it's no advantage for the firebenders, as the Avatar is still the best at fire.
>and sent by a man who
Sozin didn't even know what temple Aang was on. He used the comet to attack hard, fast and hope he killed the Avatar in the crossfire. But no amount of firebending soldiers he could send would have accomplished shit against the kind of power a berserker or fully realized Avatar commands during the comet.
>the avatar state could do that for 12 year old "I'm the avatar?"
>never learned to bend anything else
Irrelevant, "knowledge and power of all previous avatars".
> then why did roku even tell aang to master the other elements
Because depending in the avatar state is not a smart thing to do. And Avatars can't specifically possess people outside special circumstances. And a mistake could end the cycle.
Except, as I've stated time and time again, Aang knew what he was doing, and was able to stop himself before killing Ozai. The fact that it seemed like he was going to kill him before doesn't matter, all control of the state and being fully realized means is that you can enter and control yourself, Aang entered it seconds later, he exited the state when he wanted to without Katara or anyone else there to calm him down and the Extras directly call him a fully realized avatar.
You may not regard the Extras as canon but so long as they aren't just humor and don't outright contradict what we know explicitly to be true not headcanon, not theory, but don't contradict plain undeniable fact, then we can accept them as being true, and in this case that Aang was a fully realized Avatar who could control himself the moment the chakra was unblocked.
To me unless an Avatar extra contradicts something or the writers themselves through word of god or retcon change something, then they can be accepted. Aang was in control of himself, especially since Guru Pathik stated that by unlocking the chakras, Aang would be able to control himself in the avatar state so as soon as Aang unblocked the locked chakra caused by the Azulas' lightning, he was in control.
>Aang knew what he was doing
>and was able to stop himself before killing Ozai.
The point of that scene is to show aang regained control. Once regained, he was fully realized. Not while he was very clearly berserking, breathing fire, and attacking Ozai with absolutely lethal attacks.
Aang doesn't cheat on his woman. He's too nice for that kind of thing.
It'd be more likely that some other chick raped him or something. Strapped him to a chair and mounted him for babies. Evil babies.
>Irrelevant. Roku wanted to avoid another genocide.It had nothing to do with protecting Aang.
There was no talk or even reference to any genocide so thats' your own headcanon.
>This has no effect on the Avatar State.
Look at the outright differences between how Aang in the avatar state fought in books 1 and 2 and how he fought in book 3 after he had mastered the other elements and unlocked his chakras. To act like Aang being on autopilot for defense is the same as outright control when on the attack is plain wrong
>The Avatar State is also powered by a comet, so it's no advantage for the firebenders, as the Avatar is still the best at fire.
Aang still never used firebending during the avatar state for attack or defense until he learned it and mastered it, before then it was nothing but airbending for defense and some small earthbending and waterbending.
>Sozin didn't even know what temple Aang was on. He used the comet to attack hard, fast and hope he killed the Avatar in the crossfire. But no amount of firebending soldiers he could send would have accomplished shit against the kind of power a berserker or fully realized Avatar commands during the comet.
Aang was not a fully realized avatar 100 years ago and didn't even know he was the avatar until a few days before he left. He certainly was no berserker in books 1 or 2 until he mastered the other elements and unlocked his chakras.
No it's not obvious since Aang didn't show any of these one man army traits that you're coming up with in any of his avatar states in books 1 and 2.
>Irrelevant, "knowledge and power of all previous avatars".
And yet in books 1 and 2 he still only ever did water spout, a small tornado/sandstorm and earth bomb and this was against people who weren't even attacking him or trying to kill him. You're assuming that he would have enough stamina, defense and offense to take out the entire attacking army, which is not true and has no feats for it.
Yes he did, he pretty much stated that he "didn't want to end it like this" when he turned the avatar state off, meaning he knew exactly what was happening, otherwise it would've been like the other times he went avatar state where he didn't even remember doing anything. Plus there was no one else there to calm him down, which is what always happened every other time in books 1 and 2 when he went avatar state except with General Fung, where Roku calmed him down.
What do you mean barely, he stopped himself before the attack could even touch Ozai and he just got splashed by some water and small rocks. Aang stopped his glowing, slowed down, turned around descended calmly, earthbent the rocks around Ozai's wrists away and stopped the air dome around himself, how is that barely and not being in control.
>The point of that scene is to show aang regained control. Once regained, he was fully realized. Not while he was very clearly berserking, breathing fire, and attacking Ozai with absolutely lethal attacks.
Except once again as avatar Extras states, he was fully realized as soon as he entered the state in the first place and unless Bryke says it's not true or something else contradicts that, it is canon.
Stating this again, 1. Guru Pathik said that by unlocking the chakras that Aang would be able to control himself. Did he not?
2. Aang did unlock all of the chakras with only the last one being locked until he let go of Katara. Yes or no? 3. When he let go of Katara did he not enter the avatar state willingly as was his intended purpose and was he not in control of himself? 4. After being struck and waking up in book 3 episode 1 did Katara not say that she felt a large amount of energy locked up exactly where the lightning bolt had struck, which was taken to mean the energy was now locked. 5. Did the rock not unlock that energy now letting Aang enter the Avatar state? if yes then he was in control since the chakras were already unlocked
The fuck are you talking about? His description of how the game plays was fairly spot on, and all of his comments regarding similarities to other Platinum games were accurate as well. Just because a lot of people are saying it doesn't mean that they're all just copying... it tends to mean that they all agree on it.
My only complain for him was him saying the game needed more polish. It's a game demo... of course it isn't completely done and polished.
>There was no talk or even reference to any genocide so thats' your own headcanon.
Not him, but you're basically wrong.
>"In my life, I tried to be disciplined and show restraint, but it backfired when Fire Lord Sozin took advantage of my restraint and mercy. If I had been more decisive and acted sooner, I could have stopped Sozin and stopped the War before it started."
So Roku regretted not stopping the war, and (implicitly) the death that followed, most notably the genocide of the Air Nomads. Not explicitly stated, but heavily implied.
You say that Roku wouldn't know about the Earth Kingdom burning, but that's also untrue.
Aang already knew about it, which was part of his angst about having to kill the Fire Lord, which is why he asked in the first place.
And given Korra establishing that the Avatars past can kinda see what's going on without a full connection (such as Aang sending Korra hints about Yakone), it seems unreasonable to assume Roku wouldn't know what was going on with Aang too.
>This Dark Avatar, who was coincidentally my uncle, took the Avatar Spirit right out of me and destroyed her. Thankfully some magical girl recovered her for me, but the past avatars didn't come back.
>Dat feel when you utterly fucking hate Korra as a tv show but can't stop watching out of the hopes it might get better/show some of your favourite characters from ATLA
I want to quit but I can't.
that means that zaheer is either korra's former roommate, or korra's cousin former roommate.
Dude read my previous posts, I've already addressed this. besides, this discussion has gone from me addressing whether Aang as he was 100 years ago could've defended the Air Temple when Sozin attacked to some kind of discussion about Ozai, why Roku warned Aang and if Aang is a fully realized avatar cause these other posters keep shifting the argument
>So Roku regretted not stopping the war, and (implicitly) the death that followed, most notably the genocide of the Air Nomads. Not explicitly stated, but heavily implied. You say that Roku wouldn't know about the Earth Kingdom burning, but that's also untrue. Aang already knew about it, which was part of his angst about having to kill the Fire Lord, which is why he asked in the first place. And given Korra establishing that the Avatars past can kinda see what's going on without a full connection (such as Aang sending Korra hints about Yakone), it seems unreasonable to assume Roku wouldn't know what was going on with Aang too.
Yes, I know that Roku felt guilty for the Air nomads dying and that they discussed that but once again I was only discussing with the other poster why Roku warned Aang and the other poster said "Roku wanted to avoid another genocide". Roku wanted Aang to stop the Fire Lord because he knew that the fire Lord would use the power of the comet to win the war, exactly how the Fire Lord was gonna do it exactly wasn't known, obviously though through some kind of attack, Roku said this in book 1. Roku did not say that the Fire Lord would use it to burn the Earth Kingdom down or commit genocide
See : >>64095258
The other poster said that >>64094830
and I was refuting the "prevent another genocide" that he said Roku wanted to avoid
And yes I know that what the current avatar knows is also known by the previous avatars and their spirits
If Aang didn't have his no-killing policy, he could have killed Ozai with his own lightning blast without ever using the Avatar state. He had Ozai dead to rights and Ozai was too startled to move, but Aang diverted his aim.
plays like every other platinum game? I played it it plays like anarchy reigns with weapon switching. Saying it plays like a platinum game is a stupid shitty generalization, it sure does play like bayonetta and wonderful 101 right? no it does not. You also ignored how he was just mashing in the demo. His video is just the IGN video but shorter and less actual info abaout the game and more "lol its a platinum game so you know how it plays right, oh you want to know anything like cool combos or interesting things that set a part? too bad I am a retard who just googles stuff to have a reason to upload a shitty video"
I'd be willing to argue that Kuruk is probably one of the better Avatars
He knew when not to interfere, allowed other nations to handle their own problems, and as far as we know, his brazen attitude aside, the worst thing that happened during his time was that Koh stole his wife's face, after which we presume he became more mature and wise. Compare that to Roku, Aang and Korra whose mistakes had huge earth shaking consequences that affected everyone, often for the worse.
She's the qtest.
I think both Yangchen and Kyoshi's ironfistedness is greatly exaggerated by the fandom. What little we have of Yangchen is that statement made on the old Nick website:
>"Yangchen was feared for her fierce willingness in doing whatever was required to perform her duties as the Avatar and maintain balance and peace throughout the world."
Which is probably just referring to her statement about how selfless duty requires individuals to sacrifice "their own spiritual needs" for the good of all when Aang was basically looking for someone to tell him what he wanted to hear: that he didn't need to kill the Fire Lord. And Yangchen's statement by the way wasn't exactly a clear endorsement of killing Ozai or letting him live, but only was her telling Aang to stop thinking about what makes him feel comfortable rather than what is most right.
Also, in The Rift, we see Yangchen during her time as the Avatar and she's hardly a stone cold individual, let alone one who is quick to bring the pain. Kyoshi too seems to have let Chin conquer everything but Ba Sing Se before finally deciding to stop him and what the Dai Li became was far from her original intentions so I think the whole "bathe in their blood" meme feels disconnected. Though Kyoshi does seem to have demanded more obedience, this mostly appears to have been due to others seeing themselves as higher authorities than themselves by virtue of their titles ('I am Earth King, therefore you will obey me even if I'm a dick')
Either way, even if the peace of Kuruk's time period was still a result of Yangchen's exceptional work, Kuruk himself knew when to not interfere and even says that people in his time seemed pretty good at solving their own problems among themselves that he wasn't needed very much. If this was because of Yangchen, this may imply that what Yangchen actually did was create a system and environment in which the nations were able to manage themselves sufficiently without interference from the Avatar
Friend of mine brought this up recently, talked it over- Su being in on it with Aiwei looks like a decent twist at first glance, but within the context of the show it'd make no sense.
It'd just be proving Lin's bullheadedness right- people don't change, she was right for hating her sister, she's a criminal.
The Red Lotus stuff is kind of cultish, it didn't seem to imply Su was in to anything other than skipping school and petty crime. Her joining up with someone like Zaheer would come out of nowhere.
And making the kid of a well liked original series character evil/want to kill the avatar is a little too twisted for the series.
Obviously, but what we do know for certain is Yangchen not only kept the law during her time through methods unknown, but she did such a damn good job no one raised a peep for 100 years later.
The romance was a bit more tolerable. Katara and aang matched because their personalities where the same, same for zuko/mako and suki/sokka. Sure the shipping in the storyline got way out of hand in season 3. I blame that katara's necklace episode that spawned zutara shit.
This doesn't necessarily mean Yangchen was a tyrant.
While it isn't impossible that Yangchen may have at times struggled with what it seemed like being the Avatar called her to do and what she wanted for herself or what she felt was the more moral course of action (albeit the less practical), this could manifest in a number of different ways that would create the character Aang meets in The Old Masters without her having to be a controlling despot.
Her dialogue seems to suggest more that she put on hold her quest for personal enlightenment or spiritual liberation, at least according to the ways of the Air Nomads, to do what was necessary. But I think some fans have misconstrued this to mean, due to the context of Aang's contact with her, that she ran around killing people or threatening them, when we have no reason to believe that. She may have only allowed one person to die via a disney style death. Or heck, it may have something really cheesy like her giving up love or something. Point is, we don't know, and I think the most we can say about her, going by The Rift and her words, is that she was a little more willing than most Air Nomads to show off her strength and threaten to beat up bad guys when negotiations failed.
And I think it's unlikely she ever did anything that went too much against traditional Air Nomad philosophy and ethics if the nuns of the Eastern Air Temple still venerated her. How popular Yangchen was with the monks though, we don't know.
Joking about Yangchen's "fierceness" can be fun, but there's always a few anons in the discussions on the best Avatars who take it too seriously or attempt to project their own /pol/ views onto her.
I feel like it'll depend on Zaheer's motivation once they stop dragging their feet and reveal it. So far, he's done nothing but break out of prison, steal a necklace and try to kidnap Korra.
If he's some kind of "new world" visionary like the "Whole New World" video description implies, I think it wouldn't be too outlandish for Suyin to be of a similar mind. She founded Zaofu on a similar ideology and we know she has her eyes set on some kind of brighter future.
Suyin's vision seemed soley industry and technology based, not spiritual like Zaheer. I can't see Suyin reverently reciting Laghima's writings, nor Zaheer going wild over his shiny new art deco mansion.
Zaheer's giving a speech listing out all of her failures as the Avatar and the failings of the previous ones before her as an explanation of why the Avatar is an unneeded presence to the new world and uses that as a justification for ending the cycle permanently.
And she's be right to. Deal with it nerd.
I was kinda thinking that the Red Lotus could just be about "independence," with maybe each member and nation present in the organization having its own ideas of what this means to them but who are all united by a common desire for decentralization of power, perhaps even anarchism in the more philosophical sense.
If that were the case, it would make sense that a modern artist with progressive political views like like Su and a wannabe guru like Zaheer could be members of the same organization.
I thought something similar. The Red Lotus has multiple goals that are all connected by an overarching philosophy.
I guess its like radical political Islam. Some people have their own spiritual take on it while other extremists have specific political goals in mind that is still motivated by Islam.
Circus theory son. It's already happened.