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HEY YOUR SISTER'S BEIN RAPED
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I'm looking for Jake Oliver Clothesoff
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Yeah, I'm looking for a Mister Hunt.
First name Mike.
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Comparing Batman Begins and Man of Steel 2015-11-14 21:43:43 Post No.77457292
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Comparing Batman Begins and Man of Steel
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It seems to me that MOS was intended to be patterned on BB (same screenwriter, and borrows some elements, like non-linear narrative and delaying the superheroic transformation), but it feels to me like MOS only really superficially adopted the structure of BB, without really capturing the magic in the same way BB did. I think that's a big reason why I don't find MOS that satisfying.
When I watch BB, it feels like a lot more robust and complete. It's hard to explain, but it feels like Batman and his world are really fleshed out. Like, BB is the first Batman movie to actually be ABOUT Batman instead of just the villain's plot, and instead of just taking every aspect about him for granted and having them exist just because, it justifies everything about him. It actually tells us WHY a guy would dress up like a bat and fight criminals, instead of going "well cuz he's Batman, duh." We see Bruce go on a journey from fear and petty revenge fantasies to moulding all his insecurities into a weapon for justice.
And the world he exists in feels immersive and complete. Gotham itself is a character. The supporting cast actually feels developed and has stuff to do. Gordon, Dawes, Fox and Pennyworth are all defined, and even guys like Falcone, Flass, and the Nice Coat Hobo feel kind of real.
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With Man of Steel, the main character isn't developed as much. Clark barely does anything to further his character between the flashbacks, and adult Clark, whom the film is ostensibly about, is pretty much pointless until he puts on the suit. Unlike in BB, the flashbacks don't work symbiotically with the present-day scenes. Like, in BB, Bruce being confronted by fear triggers flashbacks about childhood fears. In MOS, it's just random infodumps that say "Clark's life is hard, feel bad for him." Man of Steel doesn't have that illusion of immersion in it's world. Despite the many locations, it feels like a really contained film that doesn't take you anywhere. It just feels like moving through set pieces. The supporting characters don't really have a lot of personality other than reacting to Superman. Perry White is just "stern boss who yells at Lois." Lois is just "spunky reporter who follows Superman and falls in love." Metropolis isn't really given an identity, it's just an interchangeable city where disaster strikes. It kind of just makes the film feel thin, stiff, and emotionless.
I dunno, that's just my assessment. I feel like Goyer's understanding of Batman and Nolan's attention to character and theme made BB great. With MOS, Goyer just tried to use the same tricks without understanding why they worked, and Snyder, who is more about style than substance, didn't provide the counterbalance that Nolan did.
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DIME FOR MAN OF MUDDER BOSTING :DDDDD
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>>77457314
I was with you until you said that the guy who made Batman only fight crime for a year before giving up understood the character.
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What is /co/'s thoughts on this show?
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>>77457260
I actually am starting to really like it.
Clarence is weird and messed up but i can relate to him.
shame about the whole Skyler Page incident, pic related really speaks a lot about Skyler.
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let me guess
is something so randumb again?
like uncle grandpa?
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Underrated. Although /co/ dislikes it because they never had a normal childhood and they treat the creator like he's some serial rapist.
Sum up your day with a /co/ related reaction pic
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>>77457100
it was an average day.
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What's your favorite old cartoon? Would it be too hipster to say if mine was Gustavus? Guy can't catch a break.
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super friends because it's full of bullshit science
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Top Cat because it makes me feel fuzzy inside
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ITT: Side characters that became way more popular than the main characters
pic related
Even people who didn't like the Madagascar movies enjoyed seeing these guys whenever they popped up
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minions
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Timon and Pumba
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>>77456792
to be fair, the main characters of madagascar were fucking dumb and bland
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How was this?
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>>77456785
Well it had Nick Cage it in
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Not good.
Don't watch it.
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It was passable until he left the city. And even then it was still stupid with the good energy/bad energy crap.
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Why did Dredd go from pretty slim to being a beefcake?
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Because he went from the 70s ideal action hero figure to the 90s ideal action hero figure.
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Everyone's got to start out somewhere.
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>>77456615
I wonder how often they need to issue him with a new uniform. All that growth, not to mention wear, tear and bullet holes. Dredd is a good judge but you could probably pay for 3 others with his wardrobe budget alone!
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>It's a "girls are smarter" episode.
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>It's a "protag is misunderstood once and hated forever" episode
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>>77456380
>It's a "It's a X episode" thread
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>Its a "character is interrupted before finishing his sentence, creating a misunderstanding that is only solved towards the end of the episode" episode
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So next week's episode of Teen Titans Go is going to be all about Black Friday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chkTWiYkAHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9j_H5c60L4
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>>77456325
Is Beast Boy a caterpillar or a burrito?
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>>77456444
He's an unlikable cunt, like everyone else in this show.
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>>77456444
It's a qt
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Are there any /co/ related people you really admire or look up to?
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>>77456310
kinda want to talk to gravity falls guy about conspiracy theories and Alex Jones with him
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oh shit... he looks older than in that Heathcliff DVD
like much older.
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I admire Bendis and his tenacity to survive my angry thoughts.
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Would you say Robert Kirkman is an A-list writer?
I was having an argument with my buddy who doesn't think he's A-List because nothing of his sells other than Walking Dead
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Nope.
He got lucky as fuck with the timing of his mediocre zombie story getting picked up for a TV show that barely follows it.
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Kevin owens is writing comic?
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He was then he got up his own ass. His pacing is awful.
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What went wrong?tfw no blue outfit
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Pretty much only no blue outfit. I expect it in their next appearance, though.
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/tv/ memed it to death
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Nothing. But I do hope now that they're an established team the blue outfits will be introduced. It makes sense not to have them for their initial team up.
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Name a better couple in capeshit.
You can't.
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man fuck Bendis they brought the best in each other not the worst
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>talking about corporate characters
>not naming a particular comic/creative team
Moot discussion.