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Howard Chaykin on his third run of apologies to SJW cucks:
http://comicbook.com/comics/2017/06/30/divided-states-of-hysteria-lynching-cover/
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>Eh, people were getting used to the animation and look of it. That wasn't the problem. WB made huge mistakes right from the beginning (including the look of it, which was there before Zac and I arrived - we pulled it back from being even worse). We needed the more cartoony look for the comedy, which people began to understand as they gave it a chance. The real problem was that WB and CN didn't give the show a chance, didn't trust Zac and I to just make the show we knew we should make, so they interfered way too much early on - which, when they saw it was a mistake, held up production and made me rewrite the first 8-10 episodes from scratch (1-3 days a piece instead of 4-5 weeks a piece, which is normal) and wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars. They hired "Phieas & Ferb" guys and then didn't trust us to know what we were talking about when we said "THIS is how we made "Phineas," THIS is why it was a hit."

>hen, they couldn't suddenly admit they had been wrong, so they blamed all the hold-ups on me and Zac and we never really caught up until near the end of first season - while we still actually to manage to make a bunch of really great, fun first season shows. By second season they stopped getting in our way as much (that was their version of admitting they were wrong - by leaving us alone more). We made a great second season, until they saw how great it was, then they gave someone else all the credit, fired Zac and stuck me, creatively, under a non-writer who thought they were a better writer than I was. Everything went downhill from there. Nobody who had anything to do with the creation of that show or what made it great was rewarded (I was never made a producer on the show) and they almost acted like if the show did catch on and become a hit, then they'd have to give me and Zac credit and lose face for having never trusted us, so they buried it out of ego.
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>Whatever. I hope you all see second season (and they didn't destroy it) and I hope you like it. I'm just really pissed off now that the streaming service is here and has also totally blown it. What a waste of time and money.
Thanks, Doo - Just to clarify, they didn't exactly "fire" Zac, he walked off in disgust because WB allowed certain crew members to take too much power and get too much credit because they played politics, were at WB longer and were WB's "pets" - so they could o what they wanted and had the top brass' ears, into which they whispered how they could do a better job than Zac and I. Zac is one of the nicest, fairest and most egoless people you'll ever meet in Hollywood, who is also one of the most talented. Usually those two don't go hand in hand, but somehow Zac makes it work. He's an saint of a guy - and absolutely brilliant. That kind of style is just not in keeping with WB's current managerial style, so Zac appeared "weak" and the water was chummed and the sharks attacked. Every move they made was a creative mistake for the show, but if an arrogant jerk suggests it, WB believes it MUST be right! Zac just got tired of fighting against a machine that clearly didn't respect what and how he was doing to make a great show, so he bailed. I was Zac's second in command - I was the head writer, story editor and uncredited co-creator/developer of the series.
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>It would have been natural, since even WB considered me "the voice of the show,' to promote me to producer and allow me to have some creative control over what happens AFTER the scripts were complete (important things, like being in voice records to make sure the lines I wrote were delivered correctly, etc), but no, once Zac left, I was NOT demoted, I just lost my direct line to the top of the creative power structure and the people who took his place thought THEY knew better, so I was basically left in my office churning out great scripts without any control over making sure they were executed correctly like I had with Zac. If Zac wasn't sure about something in the script, he'd walk in my office and ask me what I meant. That stopped happening and board artists and directors were given permission to rewrite at will - most of the time for stuff that they wouldn't have rewritten had they understood what the intention was or what the function of it was in the story structure. They all really talented artists - but none of them are trained writers.
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>Animation (especially kids animation) is made up of a bunch of artists who went to art school and they're brilliant, trained artists, not writers - which takes JUST as much training and practice. It's the old cliche - EVERYBODY thinks they're a writer because words on a page look like words on a page - unlike ART, which you can tell when someone has gone to school and is trained and learned the craft of drawing and animating. They all think, "I'm funny! I can write this!" without having any idea what there-act structure is, what character arcs are, how to create character driven comedy, how to structure and build a story and keep your character's voices and action unique and individual to that character. It's all just so common in Hollywood. The WGA is about to go on strike again because the studios and producers don't want to give writers the tiniest, little bit more (in fact, while Hollywood is raking in record profits, writer salaries are going down). It's the oldest story in the book (ironically, because "books" need writers).

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can someone explain to me how TailSpin is a real thing and not something someone on deviantART created?
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Some people wanted to make a cartoon that is clearly inspired by Tales of the Golden Monkey, and Disney made them use Jungle Book characters.
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>>93620259
Because we all live in a Pokemon world.
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I don't know how the hell someone thought it up and pitched the idea but it turned out not too bad.

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AHEM
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>>93618978
Disney and their fag propaganda. What's new?
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>>93618978
>Mrs. Gleeful
wow I can't believe Mabel supports cheating, what a cunt
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/co/ has to decide whether their disgust with fagshipping or their love of Dipper x Pacifica is more important to them in order to justify this panel.

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Post cute retards

Also Gravity falls thread I suppose
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>>93660609
>retards
Mabel is quite intelligent, actually.
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>wearing sweaters in the summer
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buenos dias

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No, gentlemen, it's time you get serious. This is not the best Dc movie. Stop lying.

It's a 6.5 film with some good little moments, very few, and a pretty cute actress, but for the most, it's also terribly unimaginative and boring. The whole part of the amazons was bland and Steve's companions quite useless.

The point is: i still think that MOS IS the best DC movie. Leaving aside the Man of Murder meme, the direction was far better. People have destroyed it just because "not muh Superman" but as a movie, it deserved more credit.
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>>93655188

So Superman committing literal genocide on his own race and culture is considered a legitimate interpretation of Superman?
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>Snyderfags are turning on Wonder Woman because it was financially successful and popular

Oh boy. OH BOY. This is going to be so much fucking fun.
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>>93655188
No.

Man of Steel was utter trash. Pa Kent was a sociopath. Washed out colors. Superman was a 30 something dick head before he actually nutted up.

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Is it wrong for South Park to ignore politics next season?
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This is a strange question to me. How can the content of a cartoon be "wrong" as long as the network and advertisers are ok with it? It's what the creators want, who case?
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No, especially considering this show can barely handle politics with either tact or sophistication; it's always pretty obvious jokes and ultimately uncritical analysis considering how often they do the "both sides suck" shit. The best episodes of this show are all one off stories.

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Christ, this reeks of either blatant ignorance of what constitutes as internet breaking content or a PR Person desperately trying to spin how much their "Industry Changing Announcement" fucking bombed. I mean by god

>With Legacy, our biggest thing was figuring out a way to debut these titles that’s interesting, that will get people talking, and also we have like 53 of them. Normally we would just blast out an email, and we’re like, we can’t blast out 53 covers. We would pretty much just break the internet. So we were like let’s break the internet in another way.

>And we came up with this really cool idea that the Legacy covers that are gonna accompany all our new titles were gonna be homages to older, well known, famous comic covers. I don’t think I even realized how cool it was gonna be until we saw them for the first time. I would see the covers as just prints, and be like, this is the new cover by the artist that our Legacy title is gonna be.

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>And then when I first saw it, when I opened all the gifs, I’m like, oh my god, this is so cool, because a lot of them are just so well done that when they transition back and forth you can easily tell, even if you’re not familiar with the book, but you know the title, you know the cover. If you know comics, it’s really cool.

>And then we decided we’re gonna break the internet by giving seven or eight comic sites exclusive little bursts, like five or six gifs, and we’re gonna kinda roll them out throughout the day. Eventually we’ll post all of them all together. It’s kind of a cool way to tease it because obviously we have a lot more to reveal about Legacy. It’s one of our biggest Fall events, and we’re gonna be doing a lot more leading up to comic con, as far as information about the books and the creative teams. All that stuff is coming. We’re just trying to tease it out really slowly. But I think this is a really cool way to get people excited.
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How the internet reacted according to them
>I was scrolling Twitter when this started, because this all started this morning, and people were like ‘oh I’m so glad to see that this title is continuing, or this title.’ I forget people don’t really know.It’s like, ‘oh I’m so glad to see that Moon Girl still has a title.’ So that’s fun to see, everyone reacting to these covers and the rollout and the way they’ve been received by basically like the whole internet
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>We have so much cool stuff. We’ll have a lot more Legacy announcements. We’re gonna announce stuff about Generations, as well as a bunch of stuff with Disney Publishing and Women of Marvel. There’s so much stuff that we’re looking to announce, and it’s gonna be really fun. Part of my job now is figuring out who’s gonna be on the panels, who we’re gonna invite, what talent we’re gonna invite, and that’s really fun because I get to look at everyone like, I know who’s coming to this panel and I know what you’re gonna talk about but I can’t say.

Christ Hiro, pls raise the message cap.

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Which is better? Charcoal or me? Well?
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>>93648674
Charcoal
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>>93648674
Microwave.
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Nothing is quite as good as a well-done, charcoal grilled steak slathered in ketchup.

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What was your biggest problem with the ending?
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>>93647416
That it exists.
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>>93647416
the ending itself.
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>>93647416
HER LAST LINE WAS FUCKING EXPOSITION

The pivotal 'heartbreak' moment of the entire season and the last line is fucking EXPOSITION

HOW DO YOU DO THAT!?

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>has fresh tight tushy joining his harem
>instead of hitting that, goes and marries the 35yo single mom with cellulite

>batfags will defend this
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>>93646789
He should have hooked up with Zatanna

BMXZAT FOR LIFE
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>>93646789
gothan girl is shit and I hope she dies soon
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>>93647150
i didnt like she kind of stole mary marvels' black cheerleader costume

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Characters that benefited from a portrayal that wasn't faithful.
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>>93646521
There are more of these than one would initially believe.
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>>93646581
Then again, you could post half of the MCU, and it would apply.

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So, is she the ONLY good thing about this cartoon? Whenever the show gets brought up, the only positives that I see posted are about her

and is she actually even that good, or is it just waifuism?
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>>93646447
Waifu.
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>>93646447
Waifu
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It's a cute children's show, but it has no ambition to be anything more. The writing varies wildly - they've got some good talent, but some episodes are just weaker than others. I remember one written by Len fucking Wein of all people, that has an entire first-act set piece hinged on forgetting Windblade can fly.

Even as waifu bait, it's mediocre in that they constantly set up intriguing new female characters, like pic related, Shatterspike, or even Russell's tomboy friend Hank, then forgetting about them ASAP.

It's one of those shows that's hit-or-miss enough to actually benefit from a "best episodes" guide, that is if you don't care how the season-long arcs pay off Poorly. They pay off poorly.

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>J. Jonah Jameson
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>>93646144
Nah man he's just the coach.

JJJ is black though since Michelle's last name is probably Jameson, played by either Ice Cube or Terry Crews
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>>93646144
Why the hell not, if Donglover can be fucking Lando why not this cunt as JJJ
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>>93646144
Hes a teacher dumbass.

Anybody looking forward to/dreading this?
any expectations for it? any hopes? worries?
also why the fuck is it taking this long to get made, they announced it back in 2014
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I expect more Bill Nye level of pseudo science
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This is one property that I could actually see being remade into a superior product

I was watching an episode a while back about different types of energy and it just seemed... poorly conveyed

The premise was fun and inventive and the 3 or 4 actual characters were cute, but it could definitely be done better
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Carlos is gay now

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