Characters that may or may not be gay, but we are not sure. Post also why
>No interest in girls whatsoever
>Blushes at Natori's naked body
>Blushes as Tanuma
>First season seem like a gay methapor
>Zero interest in women.
>Loves "manliness" and manly guys.
>Wanted to celebrate valentine's day with Bakugo.
>horny king of kings who fucks whoever he wants
Maybe. But he has his own dedicated twink, on top of a kink for stripping in front of other guys.
His boyfriend too.
>absolutely no interest whatsoever in women
Only a gay boy would allow to be dressed up as a girl. Mugaro is my precious qt
This is a frustrating case because it's obvious he's infatuated with Adam to an extreme degree, but nobody has broached this subject with Yoko Taro yet AFAIK. I bet he'd confirm that Eve's feelings for him go beyond brotherly, dude has no qualms about adding gay or incestuous characters in his work.
There are some hardcore ones with the exorcists too but yeah, comparatively to other fandoms it's very pure. Natsume/Tanuma are absolute cuties they deserve the pure
He loved Haruhi in the universe that was created by Yuki. In the normal timeline he said he admired her and that's all. But I do believe that he didn't feel attraction to Kyon and was just messing with him to annoy the guy a lil bit.
They still fall under the ambiguity sadly.
Do Mueller and Olivier count? Even if I think Olivier will end up with Schera.
Tons of FE endings have stuff like that. There's Joshua/Gerik's ending and Lucius/Raven as well.
Legault gets pretty flirtatious with other men too, but I don't remember if he has a specific ending with a guy.
read the Epic of Gilgamesh, it's gay as fuck
I also like to think that one mission where a resistance member is looking for yorha chips in order to repair a damaged Scanner model so he can start a 'family' had some homo connotations. But there's really no way to prove that one one way or the other.
Ryuuzou Sakuma from Cheer Boys
Here he gives Kazuma some chocolate to thank him
Half the cast from Cheer Danshi could fit in this thread, actually.
Zero interest in women and he's a bit too much into Phoenix
>fearful of women and views them as vile temptresses
>gets way too flustered when Shiro asks him to strip
Nothing that doesn't have other excuses in context, but there's always that one guy in VN's with harem aspects who seems like he's crushing on the MC.
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want a guy who looks at you the way sukeroku looks at bon
that's all i have to say, really
I liked it a lot and not only for the homolust.
But that is through the roof, so much so that I'm not entirely sure it is not canon even if it's never spelled out as such.
Image related, just to give a feeling of just how gay it gets.
>not interested in girls
>his whole relationship with police guy
>even proposed to him but apparently "didn't mean it like that"
Source? Because this official art says otherwise...
>yandere as fuck (holy shit)
>90% of the shit he pulls is over a meltdown because his loved one is in a coma and might die
>literally stabs a guy for talking shit about his husbando
>outright says the man he's so obsessive over is the first person he ever liked for real and later says he "loved" him
>suggests that he's been with women before but never got anything out of it (because they cared about his money, not him)
I hear the original Japanese script was even more blatant about it instead of just implying it like the English version did but I'm not fluent enough to confirm it.
Ah yeah, it's been a long time since I read the infamous interview but I remembered as if they were talking about the marriage scene in particular and never said anything specific to the characters's sexuality? Though maybe I'm just splitting hairs or misremembering
The show's runners gave an interview and said, among other stuff, that the proposal was not supposed to be read as gay and was just SamFlam being silly
Don't have the source right now though it's been posted tons of time, probably it's in the archive
He's into Okarin for sure. But it's ambiguous whether he is just gay or also trans. Sure, he wanted them to change him into a girl, but solely because it was the only realistic way for him to be with Okabe.
Normally I'd say it's just Jojo being Jojo but his teacher outright joked that he had a huge crush on Joseph and he didn't exactly say no. Plus the scene right after where he went full tsundere.
Can't find the full scan now, but here's an excerpt.
>Q: Before the show aired, director Oomori outright said that "it's not a homo anime", right? (laugh)
>Oomori: There was nothing homo about his "marriage" offer. He's just a character so extreme about justice that he'd say something like that.
>Q: Those two were still together later, though.
>Kurata: Yes, but absolutely nothing has changed. Goto's mental issues are still there, (...)
And so on. The interview is actually borderline rude, because the "homo" comments is something you'd expect to see on 2ch and its ilk. Formal interviews generally put it more tactfully.
>Before the show aired, director Oomori outright said that "it's not a homo anime"
They were already doing damage control before the show aired? My sides. Makes me wonder when they realized their mistake and that people just might think their anime was gay
Wow, that really is a rude way of putting it.
As for ambiguous gay, virtually the entire cast of Karneval.
Ironically I think SamFlam did the romance better than Tiger and Bunny. I enjoyed the wannabe /co/ aspects of that show more than the homoshipping even if the latter is what most people know it for.
>totally obsessed with Rin
>Rin found his presence book. On covers (like on his) usually means it's for girls meaning he was looking at yaoi
In the drama CDs, Nitori actually keeps a 'Rin-senpai observation diary', and his entire attitude borders on stalker-with-a-crush.
Of course, the whole drama CDs are meant to throw a bone that fujos but Nitori still manages to perhaps stand out as gayer than the rest. There is one monologue in which Nitori is worrying about 'bottom' and 'top' bunks and it really comes across as subtext for something else.
>Has no romantic interest in women.
>Not really in men either...?
>Has no romantic interest in anyone??
>Not sure if gay?????
>But he's definitely not straight
>raging homophobe the entire game
>a bit too flamboyant with his "straight-ness"
>his final social link, enough said
It's Persona 4, probably the best JRPG of the past ten years with only a handful of reasonable competitors.
You can grab it for PS2, PS3 (digital port of the PS2 version), or PSVita (enhanced re-released with new routes and postgame).
The original ambiguous gay.
>No sexual or romantic interest in women
>Stand-offish towards everyone though seems a tad more comfortable with other men (especially Kotetsu)
>Develops a (very) special bond with Kotetsu
>Once he opens up more, he starts flirting with Kotetsu every now and then
I think an argument could also be made on Kotetsu being bi...
I know right, I was about to comment on it.
Why did people use to think P4 is the best JRPG ever made, anyway? I mean, it's a fun game, but definitely not the BEST.
Well, now it's all about (P4 2.0) P5, and I see the reason even less...
The canon game also shows his internal reaction when he has hot women crawling all over him. His thoughts? "I don't appreciate them messing up my hair and clothes." He barely even registers them.
If you look at his other answers there, that whole interview was a PR lie (he's a consummate liar). The novel showed his inner perspective of his academy days and it wasn't positive. He barely noticed his classmates, thought his fans were "deviants" and was there only to study. It's also pretty telling that in the manga, Barnaby is the one Fire Emblem goes to when he needs a serious love advice.
>the director even said he had no interest in women, didn't he?
Yes. I do agree that it seems a bit strange to be single in your mid 30s and only ever show interest in your best friend/rival.
Also he anime adaptation was gay as fuck.
Did you know Friday was originally supposed to be the vessel for the revived Bride? The director explained it as The One caring about the soul most of all and the existence of a male Bride would have underlined that. And I think we know who else was obsessed with bringing their partner's soul back.
He even thought about cutting Hadaly completely at some point. This makes me think the almost kiss was someone else's idea, especially since no one in the staff has ever mentioned anything about it.
I'm not sure one can describe the following as just goggles:
>All their trivial quarrels—like who should be the one driving—now seemed lovely and dear.
>Seeing Barnaby there now at this very moment felt like fate, or like something directed by the hand of God himself.
>Their reunion could have taken so many forms, and yet it had to look like this. Kotetsu’s feelings were mixed. But on second thought, this was just so them. Kotetsu and he.
>Even their very first meeting had been the same; with Kotetsu caught in circumstances pushed well past disaster, he lifted him up and saved him.
>It was always he who came running whenever Kotetsu was in trouble, as if drawn to him by the magnetic force called Fate.
fucking ike holding soren as he cries before running away with him
"This scene is referred to in Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn Memorial Book Tellius Recollection: The Second Volume (2016) as the moment where their two hearts become one 「互いの心をひとつにした」(p.241)."
that's hardly ambiguous
>Extremely loyal to his boss (who was implied to be gay himself and had questionable relationships with his male subordinates)
>His idea of an attractive woman is a woman who looks exactly like his boss.
>Wears extreme amounts of guyliner.
I suppose you can play with a PSP emulator.
Anyway, you're just given the option to choose Jun instead of the girls, and it gives you a little scene to use in demon negotiations. It doesn't affect the story at all, because P1 and P2 don't have the dating sim elements. Still, it's a fun game to play, with a good story and likeable characters.
And no, you can't date any guys in P3, P4 nor P5.
>1st Male Character I found myself into
> Trying to find characters that look like this help plz
Killua's huuuuge crush on Gon was super cute. It's too bad that the manga went to shit, I'd have liked to see some resolution of some kind with their relationship considering how things ended up but I'm not willing to read that whole new land arc or whatever with Gon's ass of a dad and a bunch of literally who's besides leorio and kurapika
When I first watched Gundam I thought Char was a fag with a jealous crush on Garma. Not like it has any credence now but eh.
Pic related comes to mind. Being gay in the Italian-American community in the 1940s wasn't fun. The book is pretty much a long therapy session disguised as a sports novel.
That sounds good
But there must be something more, especially when it comes to games
In Disgaea D2, Fenrich is extremely defensive of anyone asking him if he and Valvatorez are a couple or if he has feelings for Valvatorez, yet doesn't outright deny it and with the relationship values in game all he talks about is Valvatorez and if Valvatorez maxes out his friendship with him, Fenrich will state that he can "do anything with his body".
And in Disgaea 4 which is set in the future, Fenrich doesn't react or deny people asking him if he's gay and just does his best to keep girls away from Valvatorez.
Reporting in with Goro Akechi
>Has enough of a crush on the main character to have an actual breakdown when confronted about it
>Sacrifices himself to save said main character's life despite actually trying to murder him earlier on
>Please Atlus let me date Goro
Everyone seem borderline homophobic in this series from what you're all saying
I always thought his denial was just part of the whole "tsundere" joke.
I don't know, Atlus was pretty lax with DeSu2.
I wouldn't count on that line in particular. I'm pretty damn sure the original word refers to intense admiration; it's something used a lot for teenage boys regarding their mentors/senpai/whatever.
>Has enough of a crush on the main character to have an actual breakdown when confronted about it
That never happened.
>Sacrifices himself to save said main character's life despite actually trying to murder him earlier on
I guess every villain in fiction who tries to redeem themself is automatically in love with the MC then? Reach harder, Akechi doesn't count at all.
uh, Yamato is so obviously into MC even the anime ran with it. At least ambiguous he is.
Regardless, what I meant to say with that screenshot is that Atlus doesn't seem to be afraid of "teh gay" like the other anon implied. Otherwise, they would have rephrased that.
NISA, on the other hand, went out of their way to no-homo Komaeda.
>series is not at all shy with having gay/bi characters
>Takiya mentions liking pretty boy butlers
>Fafnir rarely approves of humans but approves of Takiya
>this official art
Lelouch and Suzaku are bisexual at most. Even then idk, seemed overrated.
This rag is Code Geass' real homo.
Jun Kudo of Sayonara Zetsbou Sensei
Might be canonically implied, but...
>Possibly no interest towards females
>Often winking specifically at Nozomu
>Subtle or not so subtle moments in poster/magazine art
Haga and Aoyama of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
While I'm at it.
>Finish each other's sentences
>Often seen as one in the same/grouped with each other
>Awfully close in certain poster art
>End up living together
> "his heart was being snatched away by Haruka"
> Sousuke: "I can see why you're so taken by him" cue his reaction
> saying specifically "lover" (in awkward tone) and not "girlfriend" even though there's only guys present
> extremely offended when Nitori asks him if he's bottom or top (regarding bunk beds)
> when asked about girls in a character interview he shrugs the question off
> was clearly obsessed with that one dude when he was a child and transferred schools just to be together with him
> talked about said guy all the time to his grandmother/mother/sister/host family
> describes said guys eye colour to those people and tells them how cool he is
> is visibly flustered when confronted with this , or really anything that has to do with his personal relationship with that guy
> the list goes on...
Pretty much. The drama CDs take this and run with it, complete with contests between Rin and Haruka to see who undresses the fastest, timed by none other than a breathless and way too excited Nitori.
And I'll add, Hades from Saint Seiya Lost Canvas. Granted, the original SS had plenty of homoerotic undertones but LC kicked it up a notch.
The way the whole Alone/Tenma debacle is handled is so borderline gay that it deserves a mention in this thread.
I'm mean, I get that it's kind of a running gag "lolol everybody's gay" but honestly, out of all the characters Rin actually is the most hinted at to actually be bi or maybe even gay (at least in my opinion).
For everyone else (especially Nitori) it feels more like one of those typical tropes of "kouhai is so obsessed with senpai" or "that one shota that call's everyone cute and says I love you", with Rin it just felt like there was something serious behind it, that wasn't just treated as a joke.
But yeah ambiguous = open for interpretation
>I'm mean, I get that it's kind of a running gag "lolol everybody's gay" but honestly, out of all the characters Rin actually is the most hinted at to actually be bi or maybe even gay (at least in my opinion).
Really? More than Makoto and Haru?
The writer even refer to Makoto as his wife and then there is the movie.
dear lord, i wasn't talking about shipping...
and stuff like "he's his wife" or dressing up in maid costumes and carrying each other doesn't mean anything to me, I was talking about behaviour
i'm gonna leave before someone feels the need to defend their fucking otp or shit like that
> nagisa kaworu
> does he even count as ambiguous
> pretty sure he's at least bi
>Is called a handsome homosexual
>Gives up on girl for his brother
>I have nothing to back this up sue me
Woah! It has nothing to do with shipping. What we are trying to tell you is that Rin is neither more nor less gay than the rest of the cast, due to the nature of the series.
Check this page out, all of them have their moments http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HoYay/Free
I mean, you are still free to think what you want. This IS the ambiguously gay thread, after all. I just think mentioning series or games where all the guys are purposefully ambiguous is counterproductive; there's nothing really to discuss if it was intentional all along.
Free is just garbage like every other sports anime.
More like does he even count as a "male" base off the fact that he's a space angel or whatever tf.
Shinji is bisexual though, or heterosexual demihomo (physically attracted to women but can also develop attraction to male with enough emotional closeness).
Lloyd was hinted to be asexual, never gay.
Schneizel is maybe bisexual. He's said to usually consort with women, but then his assistant gives that weird homoerotic remark and then a "lol jk" afterwards so take it as you will.
~~~thoughts on the sexual inclination of 2d boys~~~~
Thats because you are a fujo.
Guy shows sexual interest in men? Gay
Guy shows sexual interest in men and women? Awakening gay
Guy shows sexual interest in women but not men? Gay and trying to hide it
Guy shows no sexual interest? Subtle gay
>More like does he even count as a "male" base off the fact that he's a space angel or whatever tf.
Horseshit, he still has a male body and a junk. By that logic not even Rei is female because she's Lilith.
>Guy shows sexual interest in women but not men? Gay and trying to hide it
Eh, depends on the context, although it's usually just a case of closet bisexuality instead.
Ah, bisexuality, that mystical "concept" both fujos and no-homoers alike deny in unison.
Idk, I thought Rei was Lilith but also Shinjis mom? I don't consider Rei to be particularly sexual either, tbqh. She has some kind of emotional bond with Shinjis dad obviously but I don't know if it hits a sexual point.
At any rate, Kaworu doesn't identify himself as a human even if he has a human body. Depends on how comfortable you feel projecting human ideas about gender/sexuality onto nonhuman entities I guess. He stirs up Shinji's feelings at any rate.
Well considering the only girl we actually see him dance with is Nina who's almost definitely a lesbian it is a valid interpretation, when you're in a position of power you do need to maintain appearances. Also when did he ever show sexual intrest in women?
Odysseus remarks that its surprising Schneizel is only escorting one woman. So his typical behavior is to typically be consorting with women. QED.
Nina is the worst character in the history of CG I almost forgot.
>Eh, depends on the context, although it's usually just a case of closet bisexuality instead.
>although it's usually
You just said that men who show interest in women and only women are "usually" bisexual.
This kind of retarded sematic only applies to gay alien characters. You don't see anyone going "x alien girl is technically not straight because she's in love with male MC but an alien".
No, I said it depends on context.
The conversation was about Schneizel hiding his faggotry by dating women. One anon said it never happens and I said it depends on context; it's not Schneizel's case, but it does happen in fiction (and real life). Although it usually reveals that the guy is bisexual, not just gay.
Show me the "ambiguously straight" characters thread. Straight people are rarely if ever discussed as "straights".
If they were from a bigendered species with genders analogous to human gender (like the aliens in Tenchi Muyo or something?) that might be one thing, but the Angels in NGE aren't. They are explicitly very inhuman and asexual/genderless with only Rei/Kaworu having a semi-human appearance, and Kaworu specifically identifying humanity as something apart from himself. Even the name "angel" suggests an agendered being, even if Anno was trying to be loldeep with some of his motifs.
>Show me the "ambiguously straight" characters thread. Straight people are rarely if ever discussed as "straights".
This has nothing to do with what I was saying. Kaworu isn't even ambiguous, he's called Shinji's homosexual love interest.
They are ambiguous as any other human-alien couple.
> he's called Shinji's homosexual love interest.
Shinji is said to have homosexual attraction to Kaworu (?). This does not make Kaworu homosex though. Since he's not human and is from a genderless species.
>They are ambiguous as any other human-alien couple.
1) They aren't a couple at all.
2) Kaworu is shown to be from a pretty agendered/asexual species while other aliens come from gendered species with genders analogous to human genders. So no, not even "as any other couple".
>Shinji is said to have homosexual attraction to Kaworu (?). This does not make Kaworu homosex though. Since he's not human and is from a genderless species.
Yep. You are just an hypocrite. Imagine if Kaworu was a girl:
>Shinji is said to have heterosexual attraction to Kaworu (?). This does not make Kaworu heterosex though. Since he's not human and is from a genderless species.
I guess Rei is not straight too, for you?
>1) They aren't a couple at all.
Holy shit, you do love retarded sematics. They loved each other. Then, excepted by someone who used "demihomo" seriously.
Christ, your whole argument becomes even more retarded when you realize manga Kaworu is also a thing, in which he's no less human than any other character.
What the fuck are you talking about.
>Yep. You are just an hypocrite. Imagine if Kaworu was a girl:
>I guess Rei is not straight too, for you?
Yes I already said I don't see Rei as being hetero in >>3120658 . She's pretty damn asexual tbqh. Shinji's weird oedipal attraction to her is heterosexual in nature, but she, as a character, is not very sexual at all.
> you realize manga Kaworu is also a thing, in which he's no less human than any other character.
What? First of all, the manga is a different continuity altogether. Secondly, manga Kaworu has his angelic nature underlined and even is given an angelic name to go with it. He's specifically called out as inhuman. He's not human even in the manga, sorry to say. He's an alien.
>Holy shit, you do love retarded sematics. They loved each other.
Lots of people love each other, that doesn't make them a "couple" unless you DO something with those emotions. Like if they became boyfriends they'd be "a couple". As of right now it amounts to a few blushy scenes and not much else. He ends up having more sexual moments with Asuka, but even then I wouldn't call him "a couple" with Asuka either. If you aren't dating and you aren't married, you aren't "a couple".
>What the fuck are you talking about.
I think that post is addressed to me, not to you. Like I must be from /a/ because I point out that Kaworu is a space alien from a genderless species.
>said to have had a past relationship with a girl that "didn't work out"
>brushes off Kyoko with the excuse that she would distract him from racing despite the fact that she is also a racer
>Takumi says he "gives off a certain feeling" quote may be wrong but that was the gist
>wears eyeliner ffs
>What? First of all, the manga is a different continuity altogether. Secondly, manga Kaworu has his angelic nature underlined and even is given an angelic name to go with it. He's specifically called out as inhuman. He's not human even in the manga, sorry to say. He's an alien.
Do you come up with this argument for every time a non-human character appears on screen and fall in love with the MC?
Do you argue that Lum from Urusei Yatsura is not straight because she's an alien and Reg from Made in the Abyss is not straight also because he's a robot?
>Do you come up with this argument for every time a non-human character appears on screen and fall in love with the MC?
It never comes up.
>Do you argue that Lum from Urusei Yatsura is not straight because she's an alien
They fall into the "Tenchi Muyo" category of aliens discussed above. Like D&D races but like in outer space now. Lum's species (space onis or whatever), are a gendered, sexual species with genders 100% analogous to human gender to where they literally can sexually reproduce with humans.
Kaworu's species are asexual and genderless and are shown to be completely alien to humans. A big part of Kaworu's character, and even the short amount of story he gets is rooted in how alien and detached from humanity he is, because NGE is a much more serious show than Urusei Yatsura and didn't make its aliens "human but like green and from space". He identifies fully as an Alien and his species is genderless/asexual. The end.
> Reg from Made in the Abyss is not straight also because he's a robot?
Never seen Made in the Abyss, looks awful. But like, no I don't think robots are "straight" unless I this is some advanced civilization and you can program sex and gender into your robots (why???). program them to feel sexual attraction (ughhh) and then program them to only be sexually attracted only to those of the opposite gender (traditional sexbot relationships only ok this is a Christian society). Even then you just go into the same lame can of worms that every "human robot" show does. No, Chii from Chobits or your gatebox waifu or whoever are not meaningfully straight nor sexual.
Only 00s kids with remember this pedophilic duo.
It's not the main theme but Hachiman reacts to Totsuka as he does to the girls and Totsuka himself is probably not even 'ambiguous' but atually gay.
From a 1997 interview
>Interviewer: But wouldn’t the name Nagisa Kaworu fit even a girl?
>Anno: But that’s a young man! There’s no feminine sense whatsoever, right? Because it’s Shinji and another Shinji. Since it’s an ideal of Shinji’s that’s appearing, it can’t be a girl.
If you told Anno that Kaworu is genderless he'd probably raugh at you.
Kaworu even refers to himself as "boku" which is a male pronoun.
To be fair, P4 had a romance option regarding Yosuke but it was scratched.
>To be fair, P4 had a romance option regarding Yosuke but it was scratched
what the hell
>If you told Anno that Kaworu is genderless he'd probably raugh at you.
Kaworu is literally a genderless alien. He appears like a human boy, but does not identify as a human at all. His real name is "Tabris" too btw.
>Kaworu even refers to himself as "boku" which is a male pronoun.
This is like saying he must be human since he even uses Japanese,( a human language). Aliens can speak human languages and use human pronouns. It doesn't change his actual nature. Like.....watch the fucking show ugh. Did you get all your knowledge of Evangelion from hacky translations of 90s interviews?
Also "boku" is boyish but it does not require the speaker is a boy. Anime has plenty of examples of literal girls using "boku", so why should it stop a genderless alien?
>Kaworu is literally a genderless alien.
Anno literally attributes the male gender to him. He was literally designed to exhibit the male gender. Kaworu has a literally male sex due to his human genetics and also outwardly displays the male gender with no qualms to it. The other anon's point on "boku" doesn't hold water, true, because the language isn't at all that strict when it comes to characters in anime, but I'm not sure why you think your opinion goes against the creator's.
Also not sure why you felt the need to condescend about the widely known fact that his name is Tabris, unless you just want to flex some fall-flat nerd cred, since it has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
If I see the words 'genderless alien' one more time you're all fucking dead
Because because they linked a retard badly translated interview talking about the name Kaworu and why Anno had him appear as a male and not a female when the name Kaworu could fit a girl--its because Kaworu appears as the idealized version of Shinji.
Anno did not comment on how Kaworu identifies. IF you ever watch the show, while he appears human he does not identify as human and considers humanity apart from himself, his real name reflects that. Kaworu is an Angel, a sexless and
yo, you all remember when Shinji and Kaworu were naked in the baths and Shinji was all embarrassed because of Kaworu's very genderless form
all that lack of junk, your first reaction would be to blush madly amiright
it's not like of all the forms Kaworu could've chosen to meet Shinji he chose a male one nor anything
If you read more interviews you'd know that Anno explicitly calls the episode and relationship homoerotic, but you're just an entry level retard who wants to act like she knows what she's talking about. Nice!
Plus why do you keep harping on the real name when he never ever uses it in reference to himself in canon--it is only used at and of him, by Seele.
Furthermore, calling him sexless is absolutely outrageous, given Shinji sees him naked in every single canon iteration of Evangelion--manga, TVA, and Rebuild. You'd think that'd garner a comment or any sort of reaction at all. This gives you every reason to assume he does have a penis, and makes assuming he doesn't a failed attempt at mental gymnastics.
The level of actually accurate information in your arguments is so wildly low that I can't entertain you as anything but a tryhard who wants to get people mad. You're on the same level as Western fanboys who have been drooling themselves into mental dehydration for years, and I've exhausted almost all my energy reserved for that type of idiot. I don't want to expel the last of it on you, in case something good comes up and needs it.
He askers her to marry him in The 3rd ending and she says she'll think about it.
Then agian in CS she's basically non existent and him and Mueller are all buddy-buddy but you never know with this series, I doubt they are dropping plot threads.
Or Japanese audio
Seems like they recorded some stuff but it didn't make it into the game.
>i'm not gay
>I just prefer cute boys to girls
It kinda makes sense that it would make guys uncomfortable, but I think that since it's not like 2008 anymore, in a few years it wouldn't be so uncomfortable to that demographic anymore.
I mean, society has changed so much.
Not really gay, but somehow in his last moments he shows a way to act that leaves me thinking. But i live in a closed mind town, so maybe its just that
>I mean, society has changed so much.
Yeah, totally. See pic related
That pic is great, honestly.
But i looked into P5 more and it seems like it was honestly just a joke. I mean, that doesn't inherently mean it's homophobic. It could imply it... but that's a far stretch. Gay jokes don't equal homophobia.
>Straight dudes think all gays are flamboyant fags who want to rape them
>Let's have a scene that solidifies their belief and it's completely tone deaf with the game's theme.
Cool story bro.
I checked out the full scene. Ehhhh it's kinda cringy because the guys are so stereotypical but I still feel like it's very exaggerated. Like, it's just for a gag anyways. Plus it's not like the guys trying to pick up girls is seen as amazing either.
But I think overall it's kinda pointless to argue if overall ATLUS hates da gays because they clearly don't or anything. On top of that, it's just franchise.
Fine. It's 3 scenes and they attack him. It's still done in an exaggerated, obviously joking manner. It seems to be playing off of Ryuji's hypermasculinity (which I don't think the game frames as a good thing anyways) rather than actually trying to enforce homophobia to the audience.
>It seems to be playing off of Ryuji's hypermasculinity (which I don't think the game frames as a good thing anyways) rather than actually trying to enforce homophobia to the audience.
lel good one. The joke is entirely on gays, they are the weird ones in that scene.
>Why can't it be a joke on both Ryuji and the gay guys?
Oh the joke is on Ryuji too, except Ryuji is your friend and a well rounded characters. It's also not a joke on Ryuji being straight anyway
Also they try to rape you again at the beach again anyway. They are basically giant homo jokes based on common gay stereotypes, I can't believe I have to explain it here.
Kamoshida is an actual part of the story, the gay guys are part of a gag. Both are creepy and both are portrayed negatively for being creeps. Kamoshida has more serious weight to him.
>Both are creepy and both are portrayed negatively for being creeps
Kamoshida is creepy and bad because he's a bad person, the gay guys are creepy because they are gay.
Also you are supposed to "laugh" at them.
I don't think the intended response was "Hahah look at the gays, such perves. This game makes me remember how much I hate gay people, they're such rapists."
If you're gonna say that's their intention then this debate is over.
>I don't think the intended response was "Hahah look at the gays, such perves. This game makes me remember how much I hate gay people, they're such rapists."
Yeah, man, where do people get these ideas? It's obvious Ryuji and the MC are the weird ones here.
Ridiculous as it might sound, they're ambiguous.
Sure, they might be talk like an old married couple, don't (necessarily) have female love interests, and are shown to hold affection towards one another, and several moments in the game imply their relationship might be more than platonic, plus certain statements from both extra materials and even from interviews mention their love.
But it's still technically not confirmed.
The physical attraction was only implied, the affection can be dismissed as simply friendship, the statements were all using very vague terminology.
Long story short, they never say it, so it has some plausible deniability.
I wish I wasn't out of quality shizaya fics to read
they are fujobait but I still believe Izaya is a homo
This looks like shinji/kaworu tier denial
If their love was confirmed in extra material and everything in the show indicates it, then it is obvious and explicit content is not there because of homophobic screeching it would cause and it's just safer for the authors to keep it like this, that's like this business works in modern society
I haven' read many complains about FE, not even on shit like gamefaqs.
Homophobes are all bark and no bite, everyone knows.
Going oldschool here, but I think these two fit this thread. Even aside from the homo in the show itself, FT (fanficy as it is) gave it even more basis.
>Duo and Wufei hooked up and had kids with their respective female love interests
>Heero/Relena became endgame
>meanwhile Trowa and Quatre remained single and childless
>they lived and worked together
>fem!Quatre and Trowa 2.0 are romantically involved, basically proving 3x4 would be 100% canon if one of them had been female
>This looks like shinji/kaworu tier denial
As someone who hasn't watched any of the Rebuilds, are they even gayer than the original series?
Everyone is so gay that it boggles the mind.
The only place Shizaya is canon is in Erika's mind. Izaya doesn't seem to have much of an interest in sex, at all.
There is actually a very interesting moment in the seconf volume of the Izaya-centric light novel with a character thinking how Izaya would be if he were ever in love and reaching the conclusion that's just an absurd idea to even entertain. Granted, it's just a character's opinion and since this is Drrr, that hardly makes it true but it was the first time I remember canon ever even addressing the topic.
It gets very close to canon, with a borderline confession in the first season but I'm not sure it's actual canon.
And since there is so much of guys gushing about 'my precious one' at every turn, without its being officially romantic, it muddles the waters.
I've always thought Gintoki and/or Hijikata were a little gay before i knew people shipped them. For example:
>Gintoki's crush is "ketsuno ana" (asshole)
>Canonically slept with another man (Hasegawa and Kondo)
>Dresses in drag/works at gay bar
Also I remember at some point Okita joking that maybe Hijikata was gay because he showed no interest in women. The show even jokes about Gintoki/Hijikata being gay at several points
Hijikata was canonically in love and I think also engaged to Sougo's sister so probably not. Him and Gintoki are often played for laughs but I don't think there's any serious hinting/baiting.
Gintoki though I can def buy as a bi who generally prefers women but is down with the occasional dude.
Can you read?
>>SoV had another gay character, even if he was a boring flamboyant faggot.
Why would you even assume Gaiden? In which Leon had like 1 one line of text.
There was also FE4 with Dadga-Marty
How about Italy from Hetalia? It's never stated, but he had a brief relationship with Holy Rome, and tells Germany that they don't have to kiss, but can if he wants. Also, he sleeps in a bright pink vest.
>I've read so much shit about gay agenda because of Fates, I wonder why there wasn't an uproar this time.
>Gay character you can romance with only the MC and in one game
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