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Discuss and post fanart of /cm/ related literature
Try to post images when you can. Reviews and recommendations welcome.
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>>3072688
>The Uncensored Picture of Dorian Gray (isbn 9780674071896)
>What has changed from the published version?
Could just dl it
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So I just finished the Lies of Locke Lamora and while it's not legitimately gay, 95% of the cast is male and they're all real close.

It's also a very good book. Anyone else read it/want to talk about it?
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>>3072759
Sadly the third book is pretty heavy on Sabetha but yes it is a terribly fun book with great prose and sparkling dialogue. Locke reminds me a lot of Lelouch but in a fantasy setting/romp.
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>>3072760
>Locke reminds me a lot of Lelouch but in a fantasy setting/romp.
Fucking right? Chessmaster characters are hard to pull off properly but he's doing a damn good job.

How long am I still gonna be mad about Calo and Galdo, anon? Tell me there's gonna be something to fill this hole in the second book. ;_;
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>>3072760
This may as well be Locke's theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27mB8verLK8
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>>3072761
;_;

Although in the start of the third book you basically get the depressed Lelouch and Kallen scene with Locke and Jean. There's a bit of pandering but no actual gay. And the second book is also fun but /lit/ and leddit think that the second and third are more disjointed and less chessmasterish

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So what I've dug up:

ACTUAL GAY
Read in 2016
>Whitefire Crossing
>The Fifth Season

Read earlier
>Dorian Gray

FUJOBAIT
>The Coldfire Trilogy (the characters never end up with a female and the only female disappears after the first book)
>Doctor Who: The Year of Intellegent Tigers (the author said that they were fucking offscreen like rabbits)
>Gentlemen Bastards
>Fevre Dream to some extent
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>>3072763
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There's also actual gay stuff in the Inheritance Trilogy by NK Jemisin but I didn't think it was written well.

The Killing Moon (Dreamblood, #1) by NK Jemisin is also pretty gay, I remember at least one gay side character but I don't remember whether or not the protagonist was gay or not. The quality of the writing is also good for this book, although apparently people recommend avoiding the second book.
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I don't know how /cm/ currently feels about reverse harems, but I'd like to ask if anyone has read or enjoyed this series?

Despite the main character being a girl, her extensive harem of supernatural bishounens often become incredibly gay for eachother, and Asher DESERVES FUCKING HAPPINESS. WHY WON'T YOU FUCK HIM, JEAN CLAUDE? ANITA WOULD LET YOU.

In summary, this is a reverse harem with a surprisingly likable female led and an extensive cast of male romantic interests who at times can be anywhere from a little gay at eachother to full on literally wants to suck the guy's dick.
The first six books or so are actually devoid of porn and in my opinion are rather good supernatural detective mysteries with a bonus cast of hot dudes, but after the main character starts banging them it quickly derails into gratuitous nonstop porn. However, that's when the gay shit starts happening, because the main dude has a tsundere best friend who later also gets to be his lover for a bit and clearly gives more of a fuck about him than the girl. There are some other random gay presents laying around everywhere too- most of the cast is bisexual.
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>>3072766
Woops I forgot to mention, the series is called the Anita Blake series. I meant to post this cover.
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Speaking of Vampires, Anne Rice seems to have a whole bunch of books written about /cm/ vampires but I could never bring myself to finish any and didn't really find the plot interesting.
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>>3072768
I thought she found god, turned catholic and stopped writing about homo vampires.
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>>3072769
Oh well I was talking about the old books. No idea about the current output.
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>>3072770
They're only vaguely gay if you squint a lot, but vampires don't really care about sex in her canon. That said, they don't involve gender in their decisions of love either.
Example, Louis was real fuckin fond of Armond but don't expect it to go anywhere.
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>>3072771
>tfw I didn't finish the book
I don't know.
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>>3072763
>Coldfire Trilogy
Wait hold the FUCK up, I bought that whole trilogy because of the Micheal Whelan art and was mildly disappointed into temporarily dropping it about 30 pages in because I thought the female was going to be too involved, are you telling me this shit gets fujobait after a bit?
Well fuck, was the book itself any good?
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>>3072774
>bought a whole series you didn't read because of the cover art
wow
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>>3072775
1) I have a problem
2) MICHEAL WHELAN
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>>3072774
She disappears AFTER THE FIRST BOOK AND NEVER RETURNS AGAIN EVER.
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>>3072777
FUCK YEAH PICKED THE FUCK UP
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>>3072769
She's left the church again and is working with her son to turn the Vampire Chronicles into a tv show.
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>>3072780
oh boy
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>>3072764
Inheritance lacks some technical polish (as you'd expect from a debut series), but it also has the most interesting characters, plot, and world-building. "Broken Kingdoms" is still my favorite Jemisin book and Naha/Tempa is the best Jemisin homoship. (There's something really charming about an OCD male yandere brocon killing a third of the universe for his nii-sama.)

Also, Dreamblood is super gay (probably the gayest Jemisin book despite "Kingdom of Gods" and "Fifth Season" having onscreen gay sex). One of the three MCs is head-over-heels in love with one of the other three MCs but they have to be chaste monks or whatever.
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>>3072758
I have, but I'm still interested. It's been years since I've read the original published version, so I won't immediately be able to spot the differences without looking back and forth between the two editions.
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>>3072763
>Fevre Dream
>fujobait
It's called friendship, anon. It's not trying to be anything else.
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I'm reading C.S. Pacat's Captive Prince (at last) and oi boi did this bitch just grab Arslan Senki's setting and throw in some gay or
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>>3072771
Anne Rice's vampire's don't have sex.
There's plenty of same-sex relationships/bonds but none consummate it with sex.
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>>3072834
I read the setting more as Berserk (specifically the Golden Age era).
Anyway, she admitted to "draw influence" from Arslan, Berserk, Tokyo Babylon, Ai no Kusabi and other animu stuff
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>>3072839
Actually, there is at least one canonical, same gender relationship that is sexual. Namely, Marius and Armand in Blood and Gold.
If I remember correctly, for a while when Armand was human he had romantic, sexual relationship with Marius. I can't recall if it carried on after Armand became a vampire but still, if you are into Anne Rice but tired of the way she usually only teases the reader with homoerotic vibes, you should check it out.

Also, I really enjoyed Wicked Gentlemen. Much better than I expected, the cover does not do it justice.
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>>3072817
This picture has me incredibly interested in whatever that is.
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>>3072834
welcome to berzerk with gay sex
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>>3072952
I was under the impression had gay sex already

Or maybe just gay rape
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>>3072953
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>>3072885
wicked gentleman suuuuuuucked; sure the characterbuilding wasn't too bad but the romance felt real forced
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>>3072951
It shouldn't. I read The Fifth Season (allegedly the best of her works) and it was garbage. Mechanical, perfunctory characterization and plotting, Tumblr: The Book soapboxing, bland as fuck prose. I can generally appreciate the qualities of critically praised books/movies/whatever even when I personally dislike them, but the positive reception of TFS is plain baffling.
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I read the first book in The Magpie Lord saga last year and was about to add it as read on Goodreads when I found that they've updated the book's summary:

>>Warning: Contains hot m/m sex between a deeply inappropriate earl and a very confused magician, dark plots in a magical version of Victorian England, family values (not the good kind), and a lot of swearing.
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>>3072977
TFS’s critical acclaim comes mostly from its unique setting (most sci-fi lit goes “well we fucked up Earth, time to go to the stars!” while TFS is more cinematic in its decision to focus on a post-apocalyptic Earth) and its unique MC (an angry middle-aged lady who rampages through the apocalypse murdering innocent people). I have no idea where you’re coming from saying that there’s no characterization; two thirds of the book is a characterization and world-building exercise. I’ll half-give you plot; after I read TFS, I was frustrated by how little progress the MC had made toward her goal, but after reading book two I realized that all of the threads established in the first book (Guardian soulbonding, obelisks, holes in the ground, gargoyle people) were necessary to resolution in book three. And I can’t argue with the Tumblrisms; they’re a staple of Jemisin’s books. (Tumblrisms, blowing up continents, and cannibalism.)

In thinking about praise for TFS, it’s useful to compare it to Uprooted. IIRC, TFS and Uprooted were both nominated for the Hugo and the Nebula; Uprooted won the Nebula and TFS won the Hugo. Uprooted had more technical polish than TFS, but it played it safe with its choice of MC, its setting, and its plot. Meanwhile, TFS took a post-apocalyptic route that you sometimes see in movies, but rarely literature, and has an unusual protagonist.

All that being said, if you’re reading TFS for /cm/, you’re going to be disappointed: the gay supporting character only shows up in the second third of the book, and his scenes banging the hot pirate chief are short. If you want the post-apocalyptic adventures of murder-MILF, then by all means, read TFS. But if you want all homo pining, all the time, read The Killing Moon; if you want canon and consumated homo brocon and can tolerate the homo brocon stuff existing side-by-side (and sometimes taking a back seat to) het romance, then read Inheritance.
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>>3072994
Nah, I read it for supposedly good post-apocalyptic sci-fi/fantasy. As for Uprooted, that's another recent book whose widespread critical acclaim is kind of a mystery to me. As you said, it's more technically competent than TFS, but still woefully poor in many ways. Its much lauded "Slavic" setting, for example, shows about as much foreign culture understanding as an average Disney cartoon. Not the biggest literary sin, perhaps, but considering this was its main draw, one would expect better from a multi-award winning book.
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>>3072994
Genuine question: what is tumblrism? I never read anything out of tumblr, so I'm kinda curious.
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>>3073025
>Tumblrism relates to the views of a specific part of Tumblr which strongly leans on identity politics, radical feminism and liberal leftism.
I'm guessing that it also includes normalisation of those weird terms that are normal in Tumblr/internet but you don't really talk about irl (ie. otherkin, agender, demisexual, etc...)
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>>3073029
>>3073025
In Jemisin's case, it's the former and not the latter. Her MCs are mostly people of color, and her MCs and supporting casts have sizable LGBT components. Racism, sexism, imperialism, and other forms of systemic oppression always play a large role in her books. For the most part, these identities/themes/issues are natural parts of the story, and are a great part of the world building that is one of Jemisin's best features as a writer. However -- and I say this despite being a big Jemisin fan -- most of her books have at least one instance of characters going "Isn't [social convention] ridiculous!" in a way that jars you out of the text even if you agree that [social convention] is ridiculous.

So even though I disagree with >>3072977's thoughts on TFS as a whole, I have to admit that there are moments where she highlights social justice issues at the expense of a smooth narrative.
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>>3072977
TFS is still my favourite book read during 2016 second only to Hyperion Cantos (although The Traitor Baru Comorant, Solaris, Foundation and The Dagger and Coin are all very close seconds). Hyperion trumps TFS due to excellent flowing prose and dialogue combined with excellent characterisation whereas TFS is merely great/commendable.

In any case Jemisin writes with mature/good prose that does not bog the book down unlike most modern works which either floor the reader with pointless details conveyed with unnecessary redundancy (the likes of Bakker) or is so bland that the prose is transparent. The book delivers solid plotting and an exploitable and thoroughly unique setup and worldbuilding despite being a dystopia. There are plenty of subtle twists of character and turns and unanswered questions and quandries that Jemisin prompts the reader to consider so I hardly find the book formulaic.

However, if you are used to modern books spoonfeeding outcomes and details reading TFS will be a pointless exercise in frustration.

Uprooted was truly the disappointment of the year. Overtrodden european setup, archetypical character automatons and bland plot.
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Was it good? Considering buying it.
Although I feel kinda ripped off because this should have been in the 3rd book.
https://www.amazon.com/Summer-Palace-Captive-Prince-Stories-ebook/dp/B01N1SZKGS
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>>3074032
>While it's really good to be back in Laurent and Damen's world, I'm still grumpy about the fact that The Summer Palace is way too short. This book mainly focused on how our beloved couple is trying to work out on the heavy baggage between them and while that's good and all, I want more fan servicey stuff. MOARRR SEX!
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Anyone here read:
At Swim Two Boys
Maurice
The Catch Trap

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>>3074043
>At Swim Two Boys
I'm reading this now, actually. It reminds me of a much gayer James Joyce novel.
Maurice I've been meaning to read for years now, but haven't gotten to it yet.
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>>3074043
I read Maurice a few years back and remember feeling kinda meh about it.
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>>3074043
At Swim is one of my absolutely all time favorites. It was like reading Joyce but gay. Absolutely brilliant.

I am currently reading Maurice and greatly enjoying it.
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>>3074043
I thought Maurice was boring and full of flowery drama, but I can see why it's a classic of sorts.
The Catch Trap is legitimately excellent and mixes sports, character development, great family dynamics and atmosphere like few novels do.
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>>3074156
>Maurice was boring and full of flowery drama
That tends to be EM Forster in a nutshell.
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i loved A Single Man, although it's more of a character study than anything really but it's still good lit.
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>>3074218
Yeah, A Single Man deserves its classic status.
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I assume spoiler tags don't work here so spoiler alert.

[spoiler]What did they do in Captive Prince volume 2 extended chapter? The sex scenes are written so weird I can't tell if they actually fucked or if they just grinded against each other like some frot kinda thing.[/spoiler]
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>>3074399
They fuck. Damen even sucks Laurent's dick.
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>>3074431
I got the dick sucking part I just didn't notice if any penetration occur, I know they did fuck before that. I thought Laurent was attempting to top or something like that.
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>>3074445
>Laurent was attempting to top
If only.
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>>3074445
>I just didn't notice if any penetration occur
They fuck. Laurent bottoms.
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>>3074446
Right? I'm realy into versatility.
Strict top/bottom distinction makes me feel it's unfair.
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>>3074445
No you're right. They have sex a couple of times with Damen on top (and both give blowjobs though during separate scenes) and then one scene has Laurent "on top" but no penetration occurred. They hinted that he would get to top at some point in the future, talking about how it would be both of their first times for that.
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>>3072766
>>3072767
Sold, having looked it up it seems pretty good. I'm actually not pretty good with straight out smut but I'll give it a go, since you say it doesn't start out that way it may prepare me for it later. Also picked up the Merry Gentry series by the same author, any thoughts on that?
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>>3072756
Tylendel a shit
A SHIT

Stef is Best, Yfandes agreed, don't ask about it anymore.
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>>3072817
>>3072977
I've read ~the first chapter of each of her major series and I can't decide if I want to start. The Dreamblood one looked really interesting and was written straightforwardly and competently. Both of the more famous ones looked like shit, The Fifth Season ESPECIALLY.

>>3072994
>cinematic
This is exactly what I'm distrustful of about TFS. Just from the first couple of chapters, it felt like it was set in a trailer for a Michael Bay movie, not just the explosions but even the way the perspective and characterization were handled, the way details were focalized? like I can't even explain it but I could practically hear those weird sub-bass horns in my head between every line , the entire aesthetics of it felt like Hollywood pomposity
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>>3073025
that's just /pol/ talking about anything remotely progressive. although there's something very subtly Tumblr to the rhetorical texture of bits of Jemisin, including the non-political ones, but that's not something I'd expect anyone here to be able to pick up
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obligatory post

who here /delany/
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>>3075465
>The Dreamblood one looked really interesting and was written straightforwardly and competently
>Both of the more famous ones looked like shit

The difference between the books is that Dreamblood has very 'straightforward' easily digestible writing that most modern readers prefer and The Fifth Season and sequels are more fancy stylistically and written in a more literary fashion.

Stylism varies a lot through different books - unless you stick to the flavour of the year modern books where everyone uses the ultra bland prose that seems so common in fantasy these days - there are some people who cherrypick words like Jemisin and others who just ramble endlessly on like DFW in this screenshot.
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>>3075479
*Writing style varies a lot between different books and different authors
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>>3075479
I read actual literary fiction (and like DFW's style, incidentally). The style in the other Jemisin books just felt gimmicky - a lot of pseudo-oral "voice" flash that feels like it's trying to make you experience the narrative as if in some other context than a book, without defining in any way what that might be
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>>3075470
tell us about it anon
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Does anybody have links for the 3rd Captive Princ book in pdf?
I can only find it in fucking spanish.
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>>3075470
He is a professor at my college, but unfortunately I never had class with him.
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>>3075514
What do you think it his best work?
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>>3075692
Will get you 99% of books ----------------------------------
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https://forum.mobilism.org/viewforum.php?f=106 → Good for retail (bought or overdrived) quality new ebooks
gen.lib.rus.ec → Better for textbooks/nonfiction but it also has a lot of fiction
thepiratebay.org → Should be unnecessary but has books too

AUDIOBOOKS: http://audiobookbay.me/
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myanonamouse.net → General purpose, easy to get into and easy to maintain
bibliotik.me → Hard to get into, hard to maintain, gives out library cards but everything on this site is retail.
What.cd replacements for getting books bought and uploaded for you(Apollo and Passtheheadphones)
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>>3075692
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https://mega.nz/#!4cYRxDAa!yQcZ3l8KG-qro3qKrD3EthZZLpP7pHxDHu8nMJ6Za5U
You should definitely get stuff off mobilism though
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>>3074971
You should enjoy the first six books of Anita Blake a lot, and I'd love to read about your impressions as you go through them. I never get to discuss that series.

As for the Merry Gentry books, they're started way into Hamilton's porn phase and they are porn porn porn right from the getgo. That said, the male cast is amazing (Frost is one of my favorite characters of all time) and some bits are incredibly gay right from the start. Sholto is a precious bab who deserves love, Doyle and Frost are gay as fuck, Frost is best boy and Rhys is 100% bro material.
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>>3075470
>>3075501
Holy shit I own this book and haven't started it yet, I didn't realize it was gay. Neat.
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>>3075923
That said, I won't claim either series is high quality literature or anything (though the first part of the anita blake series is pretty alright), but it's very much a guilty pleasure and it's easy to enjoy.
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>>3075465
Oh, I meant cinematic in the sense that movies about living on a post-apocalyptic Earth are a lot more common than books about living on a post-apocalyptic Earth.

You should read Dreamblood, it really is a Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fanfic in fantasy Egypt.
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Dude we need spoilertags so I can talk about the ending to the whitefire crossing trilogy.
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>>3078021
You could just upload the spoiler content to imgur or something. '_>'
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>>3078021
Do yu think this would be enough
***WARING SPOILERS FOR_____****
blah, blah, blah
***END SPOILER***
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>>3078028
Too much effort, just type up the discussion in paint or put it on pastebin and link it here.

4chan-x has a neato embed feature which lets you view anything off those websites simply by clicking embed.
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Is there anyone else here that I can even talk to about it? Basically I just wanted to talk about how rare it is for something this gay to have a happy ending.

I mean hot damn.
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>>3075923
>>3075929

Well I've already devoured the first book in about a sitting, and I see what you mean. My favorite type of writing style tends to lean more towards purple prose such as Anne Rice's work, but that aside, I actually find the straight forward style pretty refreshing and the story very interesting, and the MC very lovable and endearing! So much so that I've already have about the first 15 books or so on their way. Sad to say but it's been a while since I've been so enraptured, reading purely for the pleasure of it, rather than just to plough through a "reading list" I've compiled for myself; and to actually find the majority of it interesting. Thank you so much anon, I'm a little bit obsessed. I think I'll start with the Anita Blake series and work my way through and then perhaps start the Merry Gentry series or start it on the side (but at least after about the first few Anita Blake books like you've prescribed.) Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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>>3078157
Fucking excellent, I hope you like them. Tell me when you pick best boy.
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>>3074043
>>3074047
Okay, just finished the book At Swim, Two Boys. Absolutely loved it, it's easily the best /cm/ book I've ever read.
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>>3078210
Are Jamie O'Neil's other books gay as well, or is this the only one?
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>>3079182
As far as I know, At Swim is his only work of fiction in which gay issues are at the front. Disturbancet has no such themes but he wrote an introduction to a Spanish gay novel that goes by the English title of The Carnivorous Lamb.
'Killbrack' touches upon homosexuality as well, I think, but it is hardly the main theme.
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>reading coldfire
>mfw
Thanks for tipping me off on this, anons. God, this thread has been the best thing to happen to this board in years.
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>>3080414
>you will never randomly appear in Gerry's forest play the Yuri!!! on Ice soundtrack, spout memes/shitpost and then inexplicably vanish
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Anyone got any recommendations for /cm/ stuff to start with? Like how /x/ has their spooky movies and games, /lit/ has different ones for different genres etc?
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>>3080571
That would require us to agree on things.
Generally well-liked at the moment is the Captive Prince saga.
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>>3080701
>Generally
Not them but it sounds like something I'd probably read if I had to go bin dipping for books if I ran out of everything to read.
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Anything set in prison?
Like, a prison dude legitimately falling for his fuccboi with a bunch of protective feelings or whatever.
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>>3080571
Alright /cm/ lit, let's make this happen.

http://piratepad.net/JEZOdJkVKm

Go in here and add your favorite gay shit to the list, if it doesn't devolve into a clusterfuck maybe we can keep it in the OP.
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>tfw your childhood crush circa 2005 will never get anything more than a few shitty fan fictions and even the canon was subsequently ruined by the author selling out.

Being an Artemis-fag is suffering.
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I've finally hit rock bottom degeneracy. I watched this and thought "What if Kingsfield was a hottie and I could ship it."

Hart got pretty cute when he stopped wearing bow-ties, too.
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>>3080953
Dammit I mean Ford got pretty cute.
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>>3080934
I think genre would be better than full gay, one sided, and implied.
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>>3080934
Can we port this to a google docs?
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>>3080957
I considered this too, but so many things are multiple genres and people adding subgenres and shit could get out of control. I didn't want a list of 20 genres with one book each. This is simpler, since we'd want people to briefly describe the book in keywords anyway.
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>>3080942
How'd the author sell out? I foolishly bought like 14 books and the worst thing that happened was the author clearly getting real tired of Drizzt and trying to get away with writing about shit nobody cared about instead.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT DWARVES SALVATORE.
But I wouldn't call that selling out.
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>>3081012
When it's bigger probably.
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>>3081083
I guess maybe 'writing it in' is a better way to say it. Like you said, the stories got sort of bland and uninteresting, the 'human' quality of the story that Artemis brought in got swept away in magic shade-faggotry.

Having the cast reincarnated was a hack.

>NOBODY CARES ABOUT DWARVES SALVATORE
ikr
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Doctrine of Labyrinths. I'm up to book 2 and it's clear that the prose is serviceable and the author's voice is strong but there's something seriously weird/shit about the characterisation and plot.

The entire first book starts out as a kind of hard fantasy and then it devolves into random rambling plot where things like http://i.imgur.com/bk74k2R.png happen for inexplicable reasons.

Second book, Felix Harrowfield constantly ends up like pic related and doesn't really seem to act like an ordinary person would. Main complaints are here: http://i.imgur.com/ogys0AC.png

Mavortian was a good character that I connected well with http://i.imgur.com/LVhThpD.png

Mildmay was a pretty good character. I can see him being voiced by this guy: https://psv4.vk.me/c521208/u58904205/audios/7f8fbf689037.mp3
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>>3082110
Mildmay is best boy.
Felix is a piece of shit but I have a soft spot for sad prostitutes and tsunderes, so I grew to love him.
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>>3081967
Are the Artemis/Jarlaxle books any good?
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>>3082133
There is a surprising amount of characterisation to them and personalities that you don't really expect to see in a fantasy novel. You can really see where Schafer, the Shattered Sigils author got their inspiration from, but where their characters are all likeable in a sweet way with a plot which clearly rises and falls in distinct phases like a typical fantasy novel, the Doctrine of Labyrinths author concocts a bunch of strongly characterised and memorable - misfits in a way that plays it less safe in terms of plot and great world building.

This author is a very imaginative author with a strong authorial voice but the plot tends to ramble with strong sections, weak sections and the book is wildly variable in quality and pacing, for example at the part where you know what happens and visits about three different people at his leisure. I think that with more editing and regulating POV length the timelines would work better.

Nevertheless, both narrators segue naturally between each other and there's none of the 'let's introduce five million POV characters so we can world build but not character build'. Also the unpredictability of characters who reappear at unexpected intervals was a strength of the book because I am used to calling exactly where people would apoear.

It's also a series that seems to improve as the author writes.
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>>3082154
Yes, all of this. I especially like the narration style in Mildmay's PoVs, how at first it's slightly baffling but you quickly grow to love it. When I finished that series it took me a while to get over the fact that I'd never get to hear him talk again. Nobody's ever quite replicated it, though I've seen a few books try.
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>>3082145
Servant of the Blade and the short stories (Wickless in the Nether, Empty Joys and another one I can't remember) are fantastic, 10/10. Lot's of fun character building, banter etc.

Promise of the Witch King is pretty flat, mostly action, Artemis get's manipulated into a romance by the end of it with a mentally unstable half-elf thanks to Jarlaxle's shenanigans.

Road of the Patriarch is great, half-elf betrayed Artemis on account of being crazy, he clams and goes back to his home town on a suicide mission and delves into the whole Artemis backstory which is appropriately tragic.

Ending clearly was designed as a bookend to his character, but for whatever reason RAS kept going with it.
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>>3082781
>Servant of the Blade
Servant of the Shard, my bad.
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So do you guys actually buy books you pirate if you like them?
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>>3080934
H-How in the hell is Vampire Chronicles not under full gay? There's many, many m/m relationships, outright stated as such, and in one book there's lot of gay sex???
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>>3084510
>one book there's lot of gay sex???
explain
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>>3084521
The could be thinking of The Vampire Armand. Marius was kinda grooming him and sent him to a bunch of brothels and later in the book Armand spent a dirty weekend with an English noble.
It was one of Rice's crappier books, put out around the time she thought she was too good for an editor.
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>>3084509
Obviously. I actually spend more on books/movies/vidya than my non-pirating relatives.
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>>3084524
Same. I've actually bought Captive Prince twice, in paper and ebook.
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>>3084523
I read that, and I don't remember anything explicit, only implied.
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>>3084527
The brothel stuff was only a page or two at most and the fling with the noble was more of a set up for a later plot point but both were pretty spelled out. I certainly wouldn't consider it "a lot of gay sex" but it's the only book from the series that I remember actually having gay sex. Prior books had declarations of love and occasional kissing and talk of how sharing blood was super erotic but no actual sex.
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Has someone mentioned "The Half Bad Trilogy" already? At first it seems like a regular romance - emo main character is in love with pure and nonemo blonde girl - then slowly turns from fujobait to full homo. Also it's kinda edgy and tumblrish, but nice to read.
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>>3084509
I prefer having a physical library, so I buy all of them.
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What are you reading, /cm/lit?

I just finished John Dies at the End again.
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>>3085874
Trying to get through the Magicians trilogy. The characters are kind of insufferable so far.
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>>3085874

Nothing I read is expecially /cm/ but just finished up the Thrawn Trilogy which like most science fiction has a rather high ratio of males to females so perhaps it counts. Now I'm going to either finish up Asimov's Foundation or read CS Friedman's Madness Season or Legends of the Galactic Heroes.

I have two short scifi short story anthology and one novella in the backlog but I don't read short stories unless I need ideas for a fanfic.
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>>3085874
Amberlough, a spy political thriller with some homo. About 100 pages in and it's okay so far. Good setting, the politics are decently interesting, no YA garbage in sight and the writing isn't bad at all. We'll see how it evolves.
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>>3085875
Oh? I was hoping to read that soon, is it in any way redeemable?
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Milo Yiannopoulos is super gay and he loves getting dicks in his asshole. He drinks gallon jugs of gay guys cum while getting fucked in his beautiful gaping asshole. I wish I was the one sliding my dick into it.
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>>3085880
To be fair, I'm only about 3/4 done with the first book. It's difficult for me to get invested in the actual story when the majority of the characters get on my nerves. That said, the plot itself is pretty interesting and I think the world is neat.
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>>3085891
What was the first book called again?
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>>3085892
The Magicians
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>>3085895
This?
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>>3086051
That's it. I haven't watched the show so I couldn't say if it's better or not.
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Are there any good Beauty and the Beast inspired gay novels out there? I prefer ones with good plots, rather than smut, but if there's not much I won't be picky.
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>>3086186
Oh shit I didn't realize I wanted this until just now.

I know a (fake spoilers)fanfiction(/fake spoilers) that does that. But it's Avengers Loki/Tony.
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I read this one recently and was pleasantly surprised. It was actually well written, the voodoo element went beyond the cliché and while perhaps a bit too overdramatic, was a highly enjoyable read.
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>>3086195
I know right? It was on TV last night and I realized I needed this slashed.

>fanfiction
Yeah I've read some, but I want like a genderbent Belle or something, FUCK.
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>>3086223
Have you tried the obvious approach- which in this case might be to search for just genderbent!belle fanfics of BATB itself? I'd wager money it exists. It's not ideal but it might scratch the itch a little for you.
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>>3086229
I have, the "fandom" is kind of dead in the water until the new movie comes out, but I guess I can wait. I was hoping for something lengthy and well written.
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>>3086223
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/12986.Best_Gay_books_based_on_fairytales

No idea if there is a Beauty themed book in here but probably. Whether it is any good or not is another question but yeah.
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>that ending of the first coldfire book
I am fucking hype. And we get to bring the catgirl, too.
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>>3086672
Gerry is too pure for this world.
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>>3086673
Real spoilers http://pastebin.com/ENhDtLyG
I hope we get some more male cast members in this next book, as much as I look forward to the shenanigans of the Tsundere Squad.
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>tfw Foundation Trilogy fanart exists
I want to do lewd things to Eto Demerzel
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>>3087347
tell me about this trilogy
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>>3087375
Asimov's works aren't so much a trilogy as an entire expanded series of books.
So Foundation was initially a trilogy but then it got expanded and I, Robot is also set in the same universe.

Reasons are spoiler as a fuck though. In any case, this guy has a whole bunch of cute fujo fanart though: http://nolla.flop.jp/nr/

The reasons are fairly obvious:
>Demerzel advanced toward him, a gentle smile curving his lips without altering in any way the gravity of his countenance.
>“Hari,” he said. “It is pleasant to see you. I was half-afraid you would change your mind and cancel.”
>“I was more than half-afraid you would, First Minister.”
>“Eto—if you fear using my real name.”
>“I couldn’t. It won’t come out of me. You know that.”
>“It will to me. Say it. I would rather like to hear it.”

Too bad Foundation isn't really gay.
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>Shower scene
Oh my god Asimov.
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Thank you book three for going full homo in the most over-the-top way possible.

>manslut prince is really a pure maiden who's just been waiting for the rakish pirate captain to come back to him
>rakish pirate captain is also a pure maiden completely devoted to the manslut prince, who only left in the first place because his abusive father spoiler spoiler made him stay away

The main plot resolved itself with too much of a deus ex machina, but reading for Holy Fuck These Sappy Homos Came Straight Out Of A Harlequin Novel was worth it.

(The gratuitous Holland trauma flashbacks were also a highlight. Athos and Holland continue to be top tier for homoerotic bloodplay and mind control.)
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>>3087418
I gotta say I was damn impressed with that final book. God in a box aside the rest was fucking great. Never thought I'd even like the hetero pair. Ah but Rhy and Alucard, so glad for every tease to get to that one scene. Yes Rhy, tell us about handling hard things.

Holland broke me tho, broke me hard.

Gotta thank whoever it was in the first literature thread who posted about it. You anon, you a hero.
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Picture is for ants but I have to recommend this book.

>Something Dangerous by Patrick Redmond

>Kirkston Abbey is no place for weak or sensitive boys. Jonathan Palmer cant believe his good fortune when Richard Rokeby seeks out his friendship. Rokeby is everything Jonathan is not: wealthy, strong, handsome, aloofeven the professors cant touch him. As the bond between the two boys deepens, Rokeby grows increasingly possessive. Soon, Jonathan comes to realize that there is something not quite right about his new friend. Something a bit off-kilter. Something... dangerous. What started out as an innocent game among schoolboys turns into a nightmare as Jonathan finds himself powerless to stop Richard from unleashing a diabolical force that threatens to consume them all.

I don't want to spoil anything by going into too many details but it's supernatural based and has one confirmed relationship between two minor characters and one heavily implied relationship between the two main characters. Heavily implied being sexual content not admitted but despite the homophobic time period the two do behave like they're in a relationship.

I bought this on a whim at a dollar store and it's been my go-to novel for years now because of the main characters and their relationship that's both alluring and unhealthy.
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>>3089721
Holland's squishy daydreamer past just made his suffering more satisfying. Astrid and Athos had great taste in mindbreak material.

Also the series got licensed for a television or film adaptation, which I assume will be awful.
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>>3090207
Oh I'm very much expecting it to be awful, but if it gets people to read the books and get more fan content I'm for it. If Gerard Butler won't give me the homo I need, the internet damn well will. If I didn't fall out of practice after droppin outta college and getting a shitty manufacturing job I'd make more myself
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The Coldfire trilogy gets monumentally gayer by the book. I'm halfway through the second book and I swear they'll make out by the third one.
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>>3087418
>>3089721
>>3090207
Quick question, can you read the third one as a stand alone without being too confused or should you just start from the first one for context? I thought I might swing by the campus library and see if they have a copy since Thriftbooks is sold out.
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>>3090291
You can't read the third one as a stand-alone.
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>>3090291
Read them in order, you miss a lot of context that won't be explained in the 3rd book.

Since I finished, I was about to read the Song of Achilles, but Amazon sent me a rec to Beautiful Monsters. Monsters indeed, for recommending it to me. Cheese scale is off the charts and way too much M/F but the little bits of torture porn and the random as hell kitsune keeps me going passed every facepalm. It was cheap at least. I'm on the second book and I want to think the MC can't get anymore Gary Stu but I am pretty damn sure the writer can pull more shit out. Vamps vs Incubus stuff, lots of blood and random sex but if the stupid MC fucks the fox I'll live. Please tell me Song of Achilles is better so I have something to look forward to.
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>>3090404
I never even heard of that book but I can assure you Song of Achilles is very good. It does deviate from what we know of Achilles from the Iliad but that almost does not matter, overall.
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>>3090404
Song of Achilles is definitely a lot better.
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>>3087379
I'm so happy that this artist exists.
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>>3090473
Elijah Baley is a lucky man.
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>>3090404
Song of Achilles has been my favorite book ever since I read it few years ago. It just checks all the boxes I ever had imagined I wanted in a book.
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I hope Karril joins our party by the next book, he is a precious child.

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After reading it was this >>3090600 guy's favorite, I checked Song of Achilles out. I finished reading it just a minute ago, and feel like talking about it a little.
I liked that we got to see some of the Trojan war, and from an interesting and original perspective.
I was a bit unhappy that the main character was mostly unhappy himself throughout, with reason. It was also a little disconcerting that he usually took second stage, but this was necessarily a part of the story, and since it had to be done, I suppose the author really did handle this gracefully.
Though I actually just thought the book was pretty good, it was still definitely a page-turner, and there was no way I was about to put it down at any point.
I very much loved a certain conclusive turn in the story in Chiron's cave. If you've read it, you know what I mean.
I enjoyed a lot of the feel of the Chiron's mountain sequences actually, and the freedom in their lessons.
Man though, that ending. I knew it was coming and was wondering how it'd be handled, and I think the author did extremely well here. I actually hadn't been hugely moved nor immersed in the book up till this, but from Ajax's shattering of the gates onward I was rapt and hunkering down for some serious relearning of the word tearjerker.
The suspense in that last handful of events was excellent, every character and their actions were on point, and I'm very satisfied with the last two scenes. So great job in your conclusions, author!
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I bought all the Captive Prince extra chapters and I have no regrets.
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Anyone else hype for Raven Cycle getting the tv treatment?
https://twitter.com/mstiefvater/status/851439714351460352
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>>3099093
OH SHIT
This is why I fuckin come here!
Is there any news on a date?
What do you think are the chances that Noah is half as moe irl as he is in the books?
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>>3099223
I don't think anything else has been released yet.
I think Noah's moe factor is going to depend largely on who is cast. I really hope they go with unknowns; anything but the suggestions that have been cropping up on tumblr, really.
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>>3099330
Oh man they're gonna cast someone as Adam that's going to fuck with my ridiculously bishounen vision of him. Adam doesn't canonly have long hair, does he?
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>>3099474
I don't think the length is ever mentioned. All I remember about his hair is that it's dirt brown.
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>>3097387
Damn, I'm seriously considering.
Haven't read any of them.
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>>3099725
They're only like two bucks, definitely worth it.
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>>3099494
I've always seen him with long hair in a nice attempted heterosexal ponytail.
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Any good /cm/ books set to come out in the near future?
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>>3102550
Not a new book but apparently there's going to be a bit of bonus content for The Raven King.
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>>3102550
There is the sequel to Aristotle and Dante coming out.
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>>3078210
>>3074047
>>3074043

At swim, Two boys is an intelligent and extremely well-written novel.

It is Joyce for the modern audience, which is almost too ironic, in its own issuence.
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>>3080942
>>3081083
>>3081967

I was always a cadderly-boi. that adamantine yo yo wasn't the only thing i wanted him to put on a string and whip around....
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>>3086051
soooooo straight
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>>3103735
I feel so cheated by this series. Also, I'm also pretty sure that the one gay character is an expy of Sebastian Flyte.
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>>3090303
Is there more art? Just started this series and really looking forward to Rhy and Alucard shenanigans.
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Firstly, other stuff I've reviewed so you get a bit of glimpse into my taste: >>3072763

==

Too Like the Lightning - political scifi, dystopian/utopian, philosophical → 10/10 for plot
This book and its sequel (Seven Surrenders) are excellent, excellent /cm/ material, canon gay material and some amazing plot material, but it takes about 200 pages to properly kick into gear and describing it is spoiler material.

Some things happen if you are squeamish, it's listed under the 'Gordian Exposure Commission Content Ratings' in the opening of the book.

Bridger is a very sweet boy and I became a massive Mycroftfag over the course of this book and the next. Sorry for people who don't like Mycroft, edging into spoiler territory though. Mycroft is best boy of the year for me, currently (including everything, anime, television, books, etc).

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26114545-too-like-the-lightning?from_search=true

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Cyteen/Regenesis - political scifi, cloning, utopian/dystopian → 7/10 for plot
The secondary major character (Justin) is canon gay and remains so for both books however the main character is female and very prominently so. The dialogue in the first book can make the plot seem less grounded. I felt that this was two books with lots of good material but not great and often drowned in how gradually everything happened.

Giraud Nye is best boy of this book.

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Ninefox Gambit - hard scifi, space opera (think Star Wars especially Thrawn-like stuff, LOGH etc) → 10/10 for plot
MC is female which kind of ruins it. I'm not sure how gay the sequels are going to be because of SPOILERS but the author loves Captive Prince and writes Captive Prince fanfiction and it definitely shows in the latter 1/4 and that one fucked up scene in the second book (google preview). But I am very reluctant to recommend this book because of SPOILERS. This series has already inspired fanfic: Machineries of Empire Series - Yoon Ha Lee.
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>>3108309
(cont.)
In this book, Jedao is best boy. He reminded me of Slaine Troyard. ;_;

=================

The Star Wars Thrawn books as written by Timothy Zahn - I'm not sure what Zahn's intentions are but every single one of these has quite a lot of fujo pandering. Which I suppose is unsurprising since Thrawn himself is a bit of a Sherlock expy and needs his Watson.

Every single book on Thrawn's side has a cast of 99% males and Thrawn himself very good taste in male companions (chronologically, they keep getting younger) and they all adore him (Parck, Gilad Pellaeon, Car'das and now the Disney approved Eli Vanto) and Zahn seems to dedicate at least one scene per book towards a heart to heart moment. It's all very cute. If you are a Star Wars fan or enjoy Space Operas like LOGH, Gundam, Hyperion Cantos etc these are a must read and very accessible in terms of prose.
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>>3108309
Fuck it, I bought it off amazon. I'm gonna start reading this in a few hours
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>>3108314
You can also get books and stuff off mobilism and the like too.
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>>3108316
*and overdrive which is basically this free electronic library thing which comes with most libraries and you can use it to borrow books and deDRM it with Apprentice Alf's toolkit to effectively keep library books forever.
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>>3108309
Oh man, can't wait to read these. They're all at my library, too. I absolutely love seeing cm recommendations within the SF genre. Thanks very much for the post.
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Where does one go to learn about good /cm/ books coming out or that have already came out? It's the one genre that I have trouble finding quality recommendations for.
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>>3108381
I don't go about picking out /cm/ books, I find as many good books as possible. I'll take any good book.

The initial list is cultivated from books that seem interesting from /sffg/, /sffg/ charts, (about 1/6 shit rate - these all refer to drop rates after screening), /r/fantasy, r/printsf, (about 3/6 shit rate) some random books that seem interesting on good reads (almost 5/6 shit rate), some other places like the westeros forums, seventeenth shard currently reading thread, top lists, mobilism reviews and quite a few from a few good goodreads reviewers who have vaguely similar tastes to mine. Those are then screened from reviews and summary.

Then there's the I don't finish drop rate. Of the ones I finish about 1/3 are probably mediocre. Of the ones I like and love I cull the most obviously heterosexual and /u/ stories.

Very little is worth reading.
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>>3108384
>I don't go about picking out /cm/ books
I read a ton of stuff as well, but sometimes I'm just in to mood for a specific type of book.
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>>3108387
An awful lot of searching, I guess.
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>>3103788
what's an expy?
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>>3108587
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Expy
Essentially a ripoff of another character.
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>>3108590
>>3108587
Expies are super common in every piece of fiction if you carefully look at the traits.
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Does anyone have a The Fifth Season ebook link?
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>>3110416
https://www.sendspace.com/file/5j1elb
Everything is on mobilism or IRC or gen.lib.rus.ec
IRC guide:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/2oftbu/guide_the_idiot_proof_guide_to_downloading_ebooks/

Also recommend the Myanonamouse interview if you still have difficulty finding stuff.
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Does the Captive Prince have any threesome? I'm looking for something with a threesome, even if as one time thing.
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>>3087375
If you want to read Asimov for the homo may as well read the robot series.
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>>3110423
>that shower scene
Yes/
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>>3090473
>>3090556
Artist sauce?
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>>3110425
http://nolla.flop.jp/nr/
This artist's site is down and they also took down their pixiv I may upload all the images I've managed to save later.
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>>3110426
That would be welcome, thanks.

I should probably read the foundation prequels for more Daneel, but the ending of the series burned me out.
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>>3110427
https://www.sendspace.com/file/oogfl7
This is all the asimov stuff I've managed to find, about 95% of it is by Nora.
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>>3110418
It does not, no.
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>>3110424
>>3110423
>“I cannot say what I feel in any human sense, Partner Elijah. I can say however that the sight of you seems to make my thoughts flow more easily, and the gravitational pull on my body seems to assault my senses with lesser insistence and there are other changes I can identify. I imagine that what I sense corresponds in a rough way to what it is that you may sense when you feel pleasure.”

I wonder how much of this was intentional. I don't think Asimov had anything against homosexuality, but I don't remember a single explicit gay character in his book.
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Anyone read the Grave Robber Chronicles? Apparently it supposed to be hella gay.
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What's this from?
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>>3110469
Dark Lord Seeks Friendship, Maybe More
by Elisa Viperas
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Currently reading this Captive Prince.

So far it's a good read, but pretty rapey and assholey. I'm not oppose to it, but I was looking for a love story and not your usual yaoi rapey stuff.

Does the story explain why Damen falls for this asshole decently enough?
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>>3110491
If I remember correctly there's a lot of mentions of rape but it never happens to Damen, it's just happening all around him. Minus the blowjob scene in book one, I think it's the only one. What I don't understand is why you expected a love story? I don't think it has ever been advertised o recommended as one.

Also yeah, they do explain it, there's no falling in love after a magical rape dicking here. As you could have guessed, Laurent has secret depths that Damen get's to explore after knowing him for a while. A long while. Two whole books. It takes a while.
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>>3110499
>What I don't understand is why you expected a love story? I don't think it has ever been advertised o recommended as one.
I dunno, what should I expect then?
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>>3110491
>Does the story explain why Damen falls for this asshole decently enough?
They give the reasoning behind why he's an asshole, and he becomes more likable as the series progressed. It felt very natural to me.
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>>3110491
>Does the story explain why Damen falls for this asshole decently enough?
It is the slowest and most delicious build and I would be very surprised if the reveal of Laurent's character motivations didn't make you eventually like him a lot. I think he's very well portrayed.
Don't let the slutty rapey tone from the beginning throw you off, it's not what the book is about, it's just worldbuilding. Mostly this book is about politics and war, with a really genuine and believable relationship growing out of it.
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>>3108381
Honestly the shit I didn't discover myself from combing used book stores at random I got from here.
This thread is a fucking godsend.
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>>3110538
There's also some m/m reviews on mobilism but I never go through those.
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>>3110538
That I will definitely agree with. At Swim, Two Boys shot to the top of my favorite books list when I read it earlier this year after seeing it recommended here.
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>>3110611
Captive Prince and the Raven Boys series were more enjoyable than anything I've read in years.
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>>3110428
doing gods work anon
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>>3110469
It's like the BL version of The Evil Overlord List.
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Lol the Captive Prince is so shit

>He rapeed and abused you but it's OK because he was a victim too and it's a really a deep person inside

Go fuck yourself.
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Oho, what's this?
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>>3114954
>The Adventures of Charls follows the dealings of a humble cloth merchant in the days before the royal Ascension. Set after the events of Kings Rising and The Summer Palace.

Oh shit they're finally doing the politics exposition I wanted!
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Just finished the last Raven Boys book.

Fuck, Adam is so goddamn relatable, and Ronan is so unique and likeable, shit they're all such unique and incredibly likeable characters. The ending was more open than I'd hoped, and while I'd love to see them again a part of me is glad to leave it open. I hope if there really is a TV series that it captures half of this beautiful story and these beautiful characters.

Thank you for this, /cmlit/, I'm glad it was part of my life and I'll never forget it.
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>>3115704
Ronan is getting a spin-off.
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>>3115711
OH SHIT
Source?!
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>>3115712
It's all over the internet. Good news! They aren't going to break up for cheap drama.
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>>3115713
The world is wonderful. What a time to be alive.
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>>3115704
I read book 1, so far it was a pretty boring YA novel and even the boys don't stand up much.

Does it get beter?
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>>3075514
But have you read Hogg?
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>>3115826
I think Dream Thieves is the best of the books but if you weren't really feeling it, the series just might not be your thing.
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>>3115863
Same, Dream Thieves is where the gay really starts.
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>>3115865
>>3115863
>>3115826

its not even gay. I can't believe I wasted my time. It is purely in the mind of the reader.

Harry Potter is gay between Harry x Malfoy in the same way.
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>>3116372
No seriously, it literally is. It just takes more than one book to be pointed out. Ronan is canon gay and he has at least two gay relationships during the series. It's not in your face, but it's pretty clear as the series goes on. He will onscreen kiss one of the boys, and there's several implied sex scenes.
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>>3116372
The second book is all about Ronan coming to terms with his sexuality and his fucked up, sexually charged friendship with another boy.
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I'm reading Dorian Gray because of this thread and I didn't expect it to be so overtly and immediately gay. Where was this when I was in high school obsessing over the subtext in Gatsby?
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>>3116622
And remember, unless you're reading the uncensored version, this is Dorian Gay after the publishers told Wilde to tone it down a bit.
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>>3116622
I'm not very familiar with the premise of that book, but from what I know it's basically Narcissism:The Book. When you guys say it's gay, are you referring to a pairing of two people or just the MC being really gay for himself?
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>>3116698
As in actual people.
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>>3116707
Huh, I might read it after all.
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>>3116622
Basil x Dorian OTP
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>>3116713
The book was actually used as evidence against Wilde during his sodomy trial.

>>3116717
Henry/Dorian 5Ever
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>>3116718
I usually go for corruption but Dorian Gray and D. Gray Man are probablythe two exceptions.
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>>3116718
>The book was actually used as evidence against Wilde during his sodomy trial.
That is the craziest and most interesting sentence I've read all week.
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>>3116729
Dude had a pretty interesting life.
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>>3116698
The artist who painted the eponymous picture is super gay for Dorian.
Also there is implied homosexuality in a doctor Dorian blackmails later on.
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>>3116438
onscreen? wtf
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>>3117524
Is there a reading equivalent for when something happens within the direct PoV of the reader?
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>>3084509
Yes, if they're available in print. I have a lot of tatty books that I pick up from secondhand shops so if I like them, I'll also buy better quality versions of those titles because I want to have a nice collection. This has proved to be a problem with certain titles, but I still keep an eye out now and then.

>>3085874
Principles of Maritime Strategy.
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I heard there's confirmation that it's the sci-fi channel that picked up the Raven Cycle show. Anybody have any other news?
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>>3123881
>the sci-fi channel
Bummer. I was hoping for Netflix
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>>3123881
that pic is kinda hot
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>>3124059
Sci-fi's not bad, though.

>>3124272
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>>3124282
I've yet to find anything I like on Sci-Fi. I hope it's different for this show, though.
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>>3124282
>>3123881
Sauce?
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>>3124288
Fuck if I know.

>>3124287
I heard that've got some good stuff recently.
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>>3124289
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>looking for new pynch fanart
>Ronan is black in every. single. one.
This fucking fandom. At least the Rovinsky stuff I find is more canon friendly.
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>>3124291
I found some stuff.
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>>3124302
>>3124303
>>3124305
>>3124307
>>3124309
>>3124311
Thanks, broseph. These are nice.
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This is so hot. I can totally self insert as the blond...i just wish the dark haired guy didn't have that gross tattoo.
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>>3116622
I don't think American high schools are prone to teaching Dorian Gray for obvious reasons. And/or "less literary significance."
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Oh shit, Maggie's working on the Ronan book!
http://maggie-stiefvater.tumblr.com/post/163875612036
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So this is getting a movie.
Has anyone read it? Seems kinda tragic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rgO_TyyOoU
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>>3126039
I read it. I wouldn't call it tragic, more bittersweet. It's a very realistic coming of age story about a rather brainy teenager and how he processes his budding same gender attraction and everything else through his very analytical mind.

I absolutely loved it, so much I will be skipping the movie entirely.
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>>3126024
>Using serif fonts for long form writing on computer screens
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>>3126039
I quite liked the book.
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>>3126040
>>3126149
Sounds good, I'll pick it up.
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>>3126040
>I absolutely loved it, so much I will be skipping the movie entirely.
Relatable.
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>>3115826
>I read book 1, so far it was a pretty boring YA novel
By the way, why is it that so many grown women fervently salivate over YA novels? You have scores of women in their twenties and thirties crying about YA fiction series as though they're hallowed masterpieces. The big ones I've gone ahead and tried have, I think, unfailingly turned out to be just unenjoyable.
I'm admittedly uneducated, but is there something vital I'm missing about this phenomenon?
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>>3126630
These aren't my words, but a friend of mine said he likes YA novels sometimes better than adult novels because adult novels are very set in their ways, very afraid to deviate from the norm, while YA novels just try any crazy shit any time.

As for me, I think I prefer them because YA novels don't waste as much time on complicated, flowery prose to try and sound smart, and instead just focuses on the story and portraying it clearly and genuinely.

I mean, I'll read anything, but I've found YA to have a certain hidden gemlike charm in their simplicity and variety. It's refreshing. Sure, you get some low-effort bullshit sometimes, but that's true of every genre, and YA certainly has peaks that rival adult novels.
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>>3126631
>while YA novels just try any crazy shit any time.
If that's the case--I don't read quite enough to agree or disagree--I feel like the difference is that perhaps novels don't branch out in those ways, but maybe television does instead. That is to say, thinking about it, much of the YA fiction I have read has felt a lot like watching TV. Maybe for some people that's part of the draw (and maybe it, in turn, is part of the repellent, for me).
Thanks for the insight.
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>>3126632
What are some books you enjoy? Perhaps someone here knows something you'd like.
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>>3126630
Can't stand YA. I've never read it and I never recommend it either.
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>>3126634
It's been a long time since I've read enough to be confident in sharing what I've liked. I want to start reading again in earnest, and weirdly--and stupidly--the disconnect between myself and YA fiction, which is otherwise so highly lauded in adult women who read so avidly, has kind of led to me shying away even further in faithlessness and underconfidence. That's the extent of my blogging in this post, I just mean to say I don't know where to start, because trying to start at well-praised YA stuff just turned me off even further.
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>>3126636
Did you look at the rec list?
http://piratepad.net/JEZOdJkVKm
There's a lot of different stuff on there.
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>>3126637
I looked at it a long time ago but never pursued anything on it. Sorry, it's useless of me not to share my tastes, but that was more of a confession of uneducation than a plea for recs; I know I have to take initiative if I want to explore this sort of thing.
Mainly I was expressing bewilderment, and then what I read from anon helped me understand it a bit better.
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>>3126639
It's alright, it's nice to help people with a thing I like to talk about. I hope you find something you enjoy.
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>>3126635
If you've never read it how do you know you can't stand it?
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>>3126641
I did read YA back when the internet.

Nowadays, I can download any book I want off multiple overdrives and remove the DRM or failing that, torrents/direct downloading, often within hours of the book I'm after coming out.
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>>3126640
Thanks for the encouragement. I'd like to override the insecurity and go for it; I loved reading so much when I was a kid and an adolescent.
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>>3126644
Speaking of what the other anon said, do you know how to pirate books? It makes it much easier to sample stuff you're not sure about.

I personally use the #bookz channel on Undernet.
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>>3126644
This is how I pirate books. If you are super into private trackers you should definitely get bibliotik (from redacted.ch Elite + overdrive + 3 mo) if not Myanonamouse is HIGHLY recommended to complement the IRC and mobilism, get VIP with bonus points.

Bib is more non fiction though.
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>>3126645
I know a little about it and can definitely pursue learning of it entirely if I decide that's the best way to get back into it, but my brain_problems.jpg make reading on an electronic device like a computer even more difficult than reading otherwise is. Then again, like you said, I can at least sample, and if I get invested in its opening, I can always go get a copy of whatever physical book myself later on.
I think right now I've gotten more interested in short fiction, like, anthologies comprised of many short stories, so if I look for anything first, I think it will be that. Maybe I'm babbling about this stuff here to hold myself accountable in actually doing it, haha.
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>>3126647
Wicked Gentlemen is pretty short and I have a copy right here.
https://mega.nz/#!Q50gyb7A!S3iMflK8sBWcwXigiNwaTsFZw1RgQEQBLWxRTnjuNKg
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>>3126648
Thanks, anon. It's really kind of you to help me out like that.
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I also have this folder named Poppy Z Brite Ebooks & Shorts that I've still not opened or read anything in, does anyone know anything about that?
I'll upload it since I have mega open.

>>3126649
No problem.
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>>3126650
https://mega.nz/#!h8sBhBrS!eFgNawTW2ikKqKeACEua4M6KFI7vsYzVWJjdcMeXBvk
Here's the Poppy Z Brite stuff.
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>>3126651
Warning, I've never touched any of these and they could all be steaming shit. But the folder does say shorts.
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>>3126650
Brite's a decent writer but I always feel a bit like I'm reliving my teen goth phase with her (his now?) books. Of the stuff in the folder I've read D.U.C.K., which is from the Liquor series, and Exquisite Corpse. The latter is pretty edgelord and forgettable. I really liked the entire series the former is from as sort of fun beach/nonsense reads. Her stuff can come off as a bit tryhard at times and occasionally it's enough to pull me out of the story.
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>>3124289
>>3124059
>I heard that've got some good stuff recently.
I'm back and I can elaborate now.

There's a similar show Netflix is hosting right now called The Magicians which was also a book adapted by the Sci-fi channel, and I was watching it today. It's pretty good quality in terms of budget, directing and special effects and from the little I saw I think they're probably not gonna skimp too much on the gay, as there's gay stuff in this series too.

I think it's gonna be okay, /cmlit/. Now all we have to worry about is casting. Take a look at the Magicians if you want to sample it for yourself.
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>>3127720
>Now all we have to worry about is casting
I really hope they follow the books and don't cave to sjw bullshit in that regard.
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>>3127734
I've seen a lot of fanart where Blue is brown and I think I'd be fine with that, but if they make any of the boys brown I'll be a little upset.
Ronan is absolutely not allowed. Gansey can be a little brown. I'm not going to be satisfied with Adam no matter what because there's no way they'll cast someone feminine enough for me.
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Alright I'm probably going to be upset about Ronan either way because if he doesn't look exactly like this it won't fly.
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>>3127744
I don't mind Blue being on the brown spectrum since I'm pretty sure her cousin Orla was. The boys should absolutely be WASPs, though.
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Any of you Captive Prince fans going to pick up C. S. Pacat's new comic, Fence? Looks pretty interesting.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-fence-cs-pacat-20170817-htmlstory.html
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>>3128792
Eh I don't rhink so. Captive Prince was a weird experience for me. I couldn't get enough of it while I was reading, I marathoned the whole trilogy in 2 days, but as soon as I reached the end I was frustrated as fuck. Not because I liked it and was mad there was nothing left, but more because I felt like I read a whole bunch of set ups, implants, and preparations, but the pay off was underwhelming, maybe even non existent. I think I'll just stay away from this author from now on.
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>>3128792
It sounds interesting but the art in the preview really doesn't appeal to me.
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>>3128792
>Who are the characters of “Fence”?
Can anything under this section be more cliche?
Plus Johanna's character designs tend toward tryhard/heavy-handed.
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>>3128792
I'm definitely going to check it out, at the very least.
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Any good /cm/ lit written by a man?
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>>3128918
I quite enjoy:
>At Swim, Two Boys by Jamie O'Neil
>Call Me by Your Name by André Aciman
>Maurice by EM Forster
>The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
>A Single Man by Christopher Isherwood
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Wrong thread, dadfag.
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>>3129224
Shit, that will teach me to have more than one thread open at the same time. I can't delete the last one but have some Anne Rice shit to make up for it.
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Man, The Songof Achilles was so fucking boring. It's like the main character had no live except describing Achilles.

Is there good sci-fi story with homo love with an actual story that doesn't entirely resolve around the main character?
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