Is dairy really that bad for you? I'm trying to clean up

I cut out dairy, I'm eating a lot of meat but I'm not draining milk anymore and honestly I feel weaker. My muscles just don't have the same power now
normally I'm the very strong guy, now I'm just the slightly stronger guy

It's great for gains and dairy fat sources have a ton of micronutrients.

>>8453953
Yeah but the trade off is if you're at all prone to skin issues like acne it exacerbates those issues 100x more.

I have sebhorric dermatis, which is basically chronic facial dandruff, cutting out dairy has brought it down to an absolute minimum, so Im not scared to go outside anymore.

So from my personal experience, dairy definately has negative effects.

>>8453937
If you don't fart like a horse (aka lactose intolerant/poor bastard) after you've had dairy, why would you ever wanna cut it?
Its healthy, it tastes good (milk, various cheeses etc)...

>>8453937

Dairy is good for you. Cut out fatty foods and sugar before you cut out dairy.

If you're on keto (you should be on keto) then you should be drinking heavy cream, not milk.

>>8453937
Unless you're a shitskin, milk is good for you.

>>8453937
>Is dairy really that bad for you? I'm trying to clean up my diet and I'm not sure if I need to cut it out or not.
If you're not sure then don't eliminate it.
When you eliminate this food just for kicks, your body says "oh we're done?" and stops making enzymes to digest it. Next thing you know, you're lactose intolerant, and you're going to have diarrhea the rest of your life when you want to eat that little cream filled chocolate, or they made your mashed potatoes with cream, dammit. Don't eliminate whole food groups, period. There's no going back.

>>8453955
>f you're at all prone to skin issues like acne it exacerbates those issues 100x more.
No it doesn't.

Clean up your diet means start recording what you eat, grow a little each week making some better choices, actively trying to include foods you don't often use or haven't tried. Figure out what to do with swiss chard another 4 ways, splurge another buck to get the cherries in season, not those bananas yet again. Mix it up. It's a long road of learning experience. Eat as _varied_ a diet as you can manage. Eat some hazelnuts and fresh mushrooms! Omnivore it up!

>>8453937
If you can't cut it out then cut down. The human body was originally unable to process dairy after infancy. Later, some gained a tolerance to it. Europeans and eastern Europeans can process it better than others but it's still not very efficient. There's a reason other cultures don't include much in their diet.
Tldr; the human body is new at dairy and sucks at it.

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>>8453937
Dairy as a food group isn't bad for you, but milk has a surprising amount of calories and sugar content. Maybe you could cut back a bit if you drink a lot of milk but are otherwise a healthy dieter, if not, it might be better to cut out something like soda instead

>>8454426
>The human body was originally unable to process dairy after infancy.
Completely. made. up.

OP..dairy farming has been going on for thousands of years. Archaeologists have found it ongoing in every continent, even the parts of the world we now consider mostly lactose intolerant. Guess what? They just simply stopped, and now their genes suck. Be poor, or make those choices voluntarily, and that can be your fate too. Teeth are ugly in places they don't drink milk and make cheese, so take that as a reason to keep it up.

>>8453937
There is literally zero constituents found in dairy that would be considered 'bad' or 'unhealthy' by a rational non-liberal human being. It's composed of fat, protein, and carbohydrates. Any of those macronutrients can cause problems if consumed without moderation. Dairy is one of the best food groups you could consume considering how cheap it is, how unadulterated it is, and how nutritionally dense (from both a micro and macro perspective) it is.

>mfw this shit literally comes out of your mother's own tit and retarded nu-male reddit liberals are concluding that it's somehow bad for you

>>8453937
Milk is absolutely disgusting, don't drink another animals milk wtf

>>8453937
It's bad for you only if you're drinking milk produced in the US where the cows have been treated with BHT, a known carcinogen banned by every first world country and some third world countries except, of course for the US. And our agri-corps are so concerned for our welfare they spent millions lobbying Congress to prevent simply stating that the BHT carcinogen was in their milk.

Fortunately you can find dairy products without it, but you have to pay more because, surprise, surprise they don't get the govt. welfare subsidies the big dairy corporations are granted by our "peoples" Congress.

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A cow's milk is designed to make a calf go from 70 pounds to about 500 pounds in six months. If that's what you want to do, milk is the perfect food.

>>8453955
Not if you're white

>>8453937
Only if you're a non-white/subhuman who can't digest lactose.

>>8454532
Milk pretty much has perfect macros other than too much sugar. You could probably have a perfect diet with milk meat and cruciferous vegetables

>>8454463
>dairy farming on every continent
Who told you this? That's not true at all.

>>8454673
Fucking everywhere is a socialist hellhole fuck

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i only drink gargled milk

At least one glass of milk every meal

>>8454828
The milk a cow produces after giving birth is different from commercial milk in many ways. Concentrated post-birth milk is sold as a health supplement in some places.

>>8455190
Wtf, liberals.

I drink at least a liter a day, been making steady gains. Tastes great too. Feels good being white

>>8453937
I'm a lazy student and cba to buy milk most of the time except for small bottles for tea, my skin is noticeably better when I cut out dairy

>>8455183
I'm pretty sure you could survive from purely potatoes and milk

>>8455504
Baked potato and butter every day.

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>>8454425
>Next thing you know, you're lactose intolerant
I'm no doctor, but I don't think that's how it works

>>If you're at all prone to skin issues like acne it exacerbates those issues 100x more.
>No it doesn't.
Well, it does for those of us who don't react well to dairy, for whatever reason. Personally it doesn't affect me, but I'm sure some people have issues with dairy and for that reason chose not to eat it. Varying your diet doesn't magically cure all skin problems.


Pic related: the superior cruelty-free milk

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>>8455190
I can't believe I never heard of this

>>8455504
In fact, the Irish peasant before the famine thrived enough to have many healthy children on a diet of essentially that.

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>>8453937
There is nothing wrong with dairy, just don't go crazy

Yogurt is great for you

>>8455504
my doctor told me all you need to eat every day is liver, a banana, and whole milk

could be bullshit but i'm not a professional

>>8453937
Yes

>>8454828
me on the left

Dairy is great. That being said, most diary products on the market are crap. Yogurt without fat and with lots of sugar? Skip it. But whole-fat, plain yogurt is a great thing. Cheese in moderation. Drinking whole milk in moderation is fine, if your gut can handle it.

>>8454532
idk man, I know a lot of liberals and none of them are against milk that I know of.

>>8453963
From my personal experience, you
>Definately
Definitely are an idiot.

>>8456647
remind me never to go to your doctor's house for supper

>>8456510
>the superior cruelty-free milk

Almonds are an incredibly water intensive food to grow.

Their have been controversies over it as well in the USA where drought stricken places have been growing it.

>>8454532
Why do /fat/ retards think their opinion on nutrition literally means everything? Not everything is deducible to macros you fucking retards

>nutritionally dense

Of what? Shit? Sure.

>this shit literally comes out of your mother's own tit

Your mother is a cow? Explains a lot, fatso

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>>8454408

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXOGS9cilKM

(sorry to shatter your delusions but white people get lactose intolerance too ;^p)

>>8455176
Uh yes

>>8453937
I was drinking a glass of whole milk a day when I cut it out for simplicity's sake. I don't eat cheese either, though I do have a container of yogurt made with non fat milk daily.

So while I haven't technically cut dairy out completely, I notice no difference from the drastic reduction.

Milk is the white man's drink. Take that as you will.

>>8457134
basically this, the only people who aren't drinking milk are pussy liberals and shitskins
>inb4 cu/ck/s actually try to dispute this

My skin got better when I started avoiding dairy.

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>>8457134
>>8457143
White boys are fat, pasty, weak, and have bitchtits

How fitting that the whiteboy needs to suckle from a superior species in order to survive

>>8456982
And it's not milk... It's juice.

>>8457143
I'm a white liberal, but not a pussy, and I drink milk for most meals unless I'm at a restaurant which is almost never. So you alt-right corporate Drumpf cu/ck/'s have nothing on me.

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I always make one heart shaped whatever I'm cooking
(Hey you)

>>8457162
>Implying I don't suckle it directly from my aryan wife's bosom
Babbys first shitpost? Sad really.

>it's a /pol/tards argue with retarded niggers thread
Can we just ban everyone from 4chan but me

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>>8457214
That ain't milk whiteboy

>>8457237
>Larping
>So mad you post the same image in pol in a desperate plea for attention.
Sad!

>>8457169
Regular milk is 90% water too... Ya doofus

>>8456982
Cows are incredibly water intensive too, as well as food intensive and fart intensive. Think of the environment for G*d's sake

I bet it takes more water to get a gallon of cow's milk than it does for a gallon of almond's milk

>>8457263
>Regular milk is 90% water too... Ya doofus

Who said anything about the water content?

Milk comes from a mammary gland.
Juice comes from fruits, vegetables, etc.

What mammary gland did your "almond milk" come from?

>>8453937
I drink milk daily!! Just drink it, it doesn't harm you! Fuck the dairy fad which is nothing but an attempt to boost the soy industry

>>8457307
almond teet