Lolita General

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>>9522051
For some reason or another AP USA will rerelease Dolly Dot

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>>9522051
AP making replicas of themselves now or what?

>>9522095

It restocked on AP's Japanese webshop last week. I thought this print went on sale last year, I'm not sure that they made more of it, maybe they simply found a box of extra sitting in a basement somewhere and tossed a few to AP USA to sell.

>>9522051
I'm really confused as to why they decided to make two sack cuts. I thought they would be unpopular even in japan.

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>handmade only ita in comm posts pic in front of BtSSB store
>"hey guys! I finally bought something lol"
>it's a parasol
>girl is on the thin side of average and saying none of the dresses fit
>happy with her purchase because it's the only thing in the store she "couldn't make herself"

>>9522196
I for one am glad, I love this print and hopefully can snag it in another color and more accessories.

I don't know why it wasn't more popular, it's simple with a unique JSK cut. I thought everyone was bitching about over designed prints and the same cuts over and over.

Has anyone ordered from RoseMarie Seoir to Tenso before?

When does the order usually ship out, and arrive at the warehouse?

>>9522229
I think it's pretty lovely, but the bib and bow on the OP are a bit too much for me and the tulle on the hem of the JSK looks a little cheap.

>>9522244
The bow is detachable JSKY. If it's a matter of both at the same time being too much it's an easy fix

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>>9522250
jsyk*

>>9522200
>I thought they would be unpopular even in japan.
With lolitas but not with Larme.

>>9522268
But the dress isn't larme at all...

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>>9522217
Oh my god I saw that, stupid woman was complaining that Innocent World didn't fit her but I doubt that very much, she probably just didn't want to buy brand. She's really snotty about that. She also somehow thinks her ita nightmares are brand-tier when she won't even bother looking at nice lace.

>>9522268
Sack dresses are popular with lolitas in Japan. They are seen as more casual.

>>9522229
I think it's pretty lovely, but the bib and bow on the OP are a bit too much for me and the tulle on the hem of the JSK looks a little cheap.

>>9522280
She's blind to the difference between lace quality and touts that raschel lace is just as beautiful as any other. I want to be irked, but I only feel a deep pity for her judgment.

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>>9522316
I'd feel pity if a) she wasn't so snotty when you politely suggest she look at taobao for proper lolita fabric and lace and b) she didn't shit up our comm's pictures in her trash-tier handmade. Pic related when I see her "coordinates".

>>9522321
>>9522316

Do you have any pics of her disasters?

>>9522321
I wonder if she tried something on, felt the quality, and cried at the sheer beauty of craftsmanship and decided she wouldn't be able to live with her wasted projects next to it if she brought it home. So she opted not to get a dress.

>>9522281
You obviously aren't living in Tokyo if you think so.

>>9522051
anons please help me!
I can't decide about which Gothic arch jsk to buy, short or long.
I'm tall: 1.74 m, but I already have too many long dresses.
The short seems to be more wearable in general, but it would sit way over my knees.

thoughts?

>>9522337
Heh,yeah,go for the short one but maybe find an underskirt? So it elongates it a little bit.
Being tall is hard but i think tallitas are cuties nonethless

>>9522328
yes do share. handmade itas with a chip on their shoulder always make the best ita outfits.

>>9522337
the shortness can work to your advantage in gothic coords, especially with an ero flavor. Mana rocks that shit all the time. try it out.

>>9522337
I agree that short dresses can work well in gothic, but I don't think it suits the style of Neo Gothic Arch. if I were you I'd go for the long JSK.

>>9522051
The skirt is pretty cute but the dress cuts are fucking awful

>>9522217
Some people just never improve

>>9522229
I like it too, anon. But I think a lot of people hate polka dots in lolita for whatever reason.

>>9522107
lmao I thought the same exact thing, anon

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>>9522328
>>9522347
The caption for it was something about how much she loves grommets. A staple of the lolita aesthetic.

>>9522337
I'm 1.80 m and getting the short one because I have too many long dresses. Zettai ryouiki is the future of lolita, kekek.

>>9522453
Looks like literal vomit.

>>9522453
reminds me of an ugly steampunk dress my in-laws bought me for christmas.

>>9522467
color and all

>>9522453
Looks like knockoff of a dress I recently saw on one of the Japanese secondhand sites, I don't remember what brand except that it was a smaller/lesser known one. Except of course the brand dress had nicer proportions, better fabric quality and much better colour choices.

>>9522051
I never thought I'd see the day when I'd be praying for a cross print from AP.
>Someone please deliver us from this Taobao vector-art nightmare

>>9522453
I hate it when I see delusion with potential. This really isn't that well-made, but it's not the worst handmade I've seen either.

Maybe point her in the right direction with Otome no Sewing books?

>>9522494
The problem is that she seems against the very idea of the lolita silhoutte. She doesn't /want/ to follow the rules. She doesn't /want/ to look like the rest of us, and will use F+F pieces as a defense at the slightest hint of implication that what she made isn't lolita.

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>>9522453
This one isn't as bad, but still isn't right. And of course she refused any concrit like the fabric being ugly as sin.

>>9522516
I swear that same print is on dollar store napkins I bought for my work christmas party.

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I dont understand why she thinks she can fit a dress when she knows shes 2cm larger then the MAX measurments?

>>9522532
This was already posted in the right thread

>>9522532
Brands do suggest being a few cm BELOW the max to have a good fit. Being above the max should be a warning sign it might not fit around your body, like at all. It's a miracle so many dresses can be stretched beyond their max (looking good is on another page).
This girl is so delusional, if only this was on RC:UC I could reply.

>>9522532
Her waist measurement is the same as my bust...

>>9522508
My comm has one of those too. To her, being "original" and "not brainwashed by brand" is more important than looking good so whenever someone comments something helpful that could make her creations look more lolita, she responds in a snippy way and does the exact opposite. If they hate the lolita aesthetic so much, why are they in a lolita comm? Did they get kicked out of every more relevant local fashion/sewing community?

>>9522532
I love how someone commented complaining about being too skinny for brand. Prodding the bull there, kiddo.

>>9522453
Gromit the dog is more lolita than this

>>9522525
Lolita, a luxury fashion, totally screams cheap dollar store napkin print fabric amirite?

>>9522559
It's more poorly thought-out material choices and bad constructions than un-lolita, what she was probably going for is likely similar to Meta and h.NAOTO STEAM releases.

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>>9522532
>88 cm waist
>not that large

hahah yes, maybe in burgerland

>>9522516
aside from her dress being ugly af what a tragic shirt to wear. why does she think that's lolita

>>9522598
Ugh how to people get this delusional, my waist is a good 20cm smaller than theirs and even I feel too fat for lolita half the time

>>9522608
having a 68cm waist and thinking you're too fat for lolita is even more delusional

>>9522611
Not really... That's still chub and won't fit into some cuts.

>>9522614
a 26.5 inch waistline even on a 5'2 short person isn't 'chubby', and definitely isn't on someone taller. Of course it depends on build, but thinking 68cm is chubby is some ED shit

>>9522611
some skirts have a fucking 60cm waist, if you try these on I can understand how someone would feel fat. Doesn't mean they ARE though.

>>9522621
It's closer to 27" and I actually do stand by what I said. Maybe it's because I've always been thin but I'd be upset if that were my measurement.

>>9522598
>large biceps

more like arm flab
most women can't put on so much muscle weight without taking hormones. And I bet you she doesn't.

>>9522622
This. I have a 66cm waist (for 163cm) and I own a 2006 Baby skirt which is 66 max. Knowing it's the max makes me feel kinda fat/dumpy but I know it was meant for small azn girls that are usually shorter and thus, thinner in general. But yeah, 68 is definitely not fat at all (depending on how tall you are)

>>9522604
Because ~lace~

>>9522532
>84 cm
>can't fit brand

Fucking what?

>>9522624
You sound like a lunatic

>>9522598
This was depressing to read...I lurked on BtB for so long before joining a comm and was so afraid for the rude lolitas that would judge me but it ended up being me judging everyone in my comm for being angry fatty-chans. I understand why cliques form now? You want to hang out with the people that are like you, the same confidence and fashion level as you. I think I'm the only "normal-sized" person in my 5 man community. They're nice but they rarely talk about the fashion as opposed to the Struggles they face when wearing it. Wish I was in a huge city.

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>>9522639

>>9522645
Have fun thinking you're fat at 27" lmao

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>>9522624
>>9522645

>>9522650
I'm not at that measurement though.

>>9522652
Better skelly than jelly.

>>9522629
Oh hey anon we have the same measurements and have had the same issues with old skirts.

I was literally underweight and had oldschool skirts be too short and small on me, a lot are 64cm min as standard and I've come across 62cm and 60cm ones.

Long time lurker here, finally looking at taking the plunge and putting together a coord. I need to get my measurements, would it be okay to take them myself or should I ask my tailor to do then the next time I bring in dry cleaning?

>>9522725
Wouldn't hurt to have a professional take them. I'd recommend taking them yourself, and then comparing them to whatever your tailor says. That way, you know if you're measuring properly in the future.

>>9522725
Either...? Why is this a question?

>>9522334
Is there anywhere to find Japanese lolitas' snaps?
Is there a Japanese version of CoF?
I'm curious to know what girls over there are wearing.

>>9522738
There's wear.jp and coordisnap.com but both seem to be declining in popularity (like Lookbook here). I think more Japanese lolitas post on Instagram. It's a pity because I really like the format of wear and how you tag pictures, and they were affiliated with some brands like MILK so you can search for outfits with specific pieces.

>>9522744
Thanks for the tips anon, I'll take a look.
I already follow a couple of Japanese lolitas on Instagram, but I miss having a more cohesive place to look for coords.

>>9522778
Can I get the instagram handles?

>>9522678
Ayy!
That's really weird. I mean, I fit in them so I don't complain, I'm also part of the itty bitty titty community so I really don't get to complain (my heart goes out to all the tall/bigger/busty lolitas) but boy. The measurements are so weird

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>>9522791
Sure, I'll name a couple.
> @kibiru, I think she works at the Japanese To Alice store, has some lolita outfits and overall cute fashion snaps, pic related.
> @taharakeiko, her insta is mostly food and her outfits, she is a mom and an inspiration.

What if mana was a sweet loli

Got everything for dream dress except OTKs...which I found on YJ Auctions...from a seller with a few negative reviews. Is it worth the hassle? And just for 1 item? (Using Buyee).

>>9522870
What does their overall score look like? If it's like 500 positive to 15 negative or something its probably okay. If it's like half negative then it may be riskier. What are the negatives for?

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Hey gulls! Just curious, what do your phone/PC background look like?

>>9522811
If Mana was a sweet lolita, then Misako would be the gothic lolita ambassador. People would worship Mana as the holy sugary icon keeping sweet lolita alive.

>>9522878
It's like 3,000/40 so in the grand scale really not that much. But it was enough that Buyee gave me a warning when I was trying to place the bid, that the seller had a "low rating". It could just be any X bad reviews will get that warning but it spooked me. Most of the bad reviews are complaining that they sold dirty, used items that were advertised as new.

>>9522890
I think that should be fine. Buyee does have a limit for bad reviews. Over a certain point, 50 maybe?, it won't let you place a bid even if it's like 50/10,000 lol

>>9522894
Pulling the trigger, thanks anon. Even if they come used I'll wash them and it'll be worth, to finish this set.

>>9522887
Is that yours, anon? It's really cute! My phone just has a pic of my husbando in the background and lock screen but the case I use is from Baby.

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>>9522887
Cute background, anon! Mines not exactly lolita related, but I think its pretty cute.

>>9522903
I miss having an iphone only due to the cute brand phone cases. I just got my LG Stylo2 and i have a really basic rose gold colored case. At least the btssb image looks nice with mine?
>>9522924
This is super freaking cute anon! Thankyou for sharing!

>>9522887
Where did you get that background from?

>>9522453
Looks like a shitty fanplusfriend knock-off.

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>>9522959
Btssb twitter. It was basically coord ideas. They also had this more casual coordinate idea posted too.

>>9522949
Enchantlic Enchantilly does phone cases for non iphones. Really any touchscreen phone will work.

>>9522984
Ill look into them! Thanks a ton!

>>9523003
Seconding Enchantlic Enchantilly (I'm using one of theirs right now), although if your phone is vey wide it may not fit. Also iirc abilletage's come in two sizes so you might want to have a look at theirs as well.

>>9523003
Nayrt, but I bought a bunch of clear cases for my phone and decoupage'd some inserts to decorate them with.

>>9522598
isn't any waist above 80cm considered overweight/unhealthy? at least in my country. for men it was something like 88cm, but still.

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As a guy who normally posts on /fa/, would loud-patterned suits pair well with the lolita aesthetic?

I'm not a fan of Ouji and Aristocrat styles on men, and I haven't found a lot of information about more general dandyish styles. The Rococo style interests me in theory, but everything that I've found so far seems really cheap and costumey in a bad way.

I know brolita is a thing, and I am also researching information to put together one full kuro coord. That said, I don't think I'll feel comfortable wearing brolita out aside from Halloween parties and stage performances.


I'm very much an outsider and am not super invested at this point, so I'm fine with any constructive criticism or anyone pointing me in the right direction.

>>9523170
If you're trying to get into a local comm or something then just wearing nice loud suits isn't the right way to do it. That would be like showing up to a painting class with knitting needles. Like you can, but it's weird and not the same thing.

If you wanted to go to an event with a friend who is in the comm, then it's perfectly fine as someone who is a guest.

>>9523170
It could depend entirely on the theme and degree of detail in the print as well as the quality of tailoring. Your example may be good for punk lolita but that's considered a difficult style so not the best place to start.

Im sure you're aware that this fashion style calls for decedent degrees of detail and top notch quality and has a specific tone..Neons and saturated colors are rarely used predominately in Lolita or ouiji garments, some general guidelines for your color palette may be to reach for browns and desaturated colors for classic, black, blackxwine and blackxblue for Gothic, and pastels for sweet. I think sweet would be really hard to source and execute for main peices.

High quality accessories are a must as well, I recommend lapel pins as they're both actively trending and fun to collect. Consider nicely crafted false corsages or orbate cachebons with accents of trim for classic or gothic, enamel pins with matching themes for sweet.

Hope this opinion helps, /fa/ visitor!

>>9522624
Are you me? I'm the same height and waist and things still feel a bit tight on me sometimes. I feel like people forget that there are a lot of Lolita pieces that have 24in waists. But hurr durr ana-chan, or whatever.

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>>9522887

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I can't believe I got it. Please Mana-sama let it fit my phone.

>>9523170
I don't know about suits, but I knit my bf vests and pullovers in colours and sometimes patterns that match my coords. He'd look dorky in ouji or aristo and doesn't like those styles, so this is a way for him to participate without feeling too much out of place. He's still with me, though, so I don't know how my comm would feel if he showed up dressed like that by himself. I don't think they'd be too happy about it if they didn't already know him.

>>9522453
This is really frustrating...
>good craftsmanship
>decent quality materials and ribbons
>
>
>awful colours and prints
>disgusting buckles

Why are all handmades fucking colourblind

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>>9523170
Maybe look into otome? I mean, I'm fairly sure otome literally translates into 'young maiden' but the style is about often loud patterns and mixing and matching patterns. I think the style could be tweaked to draw inspiration from it and become like a 'charming boy' version of it. So maybe take inspiration from that? I think its a step closer in the vibe of what you're going for if you're not comfortable wearing dresses. A few brands even sell shorts, but they probably wouldnt fit you, but look to see how girls style more tomboyish yet charming coords. The hardest part of this is you need to be resourceful and have a good eye and potentially handmake or have someone make bespoke items for you.

Look into otome brands like emily temple cute, leur getter but especially Jane Marple i think might be up your alley. Look up fanny rosie maybe (she has more of a classic look)

Things to mix& match for outfits:
top: well tailored blouse, look into vests and cardigans, blazers. some sweaters too
top accessories: handkerchiefs for blazer, brooches, those little things you clip onto your collars corsage, ties, cravats, cross ties are traditionally for women but i think they'd look good on men! i've got a bias against bow ties
bottoms: well tailored pants, wool or tweed shorts, consider salopettes?
socks: fun socks! i like oddpears and i know they sell them in mens sizes. I dont know how you feel about knee highs, but something to consider
shoes: a nice pair of oxfords or loafers.
acessories: watches, cufflinks, hats with ribbon, feathers etc. rings and necklaces too.
You can sway more boyish with the details or work in some lace and bows and cute accessories. Depends on your taste.

Overall, focus on the details. Its about a sort of whimsy from the color, patterns and accessories that would separate it from just a nice clothing ensemble.

This was fun to think about, hope it helped! I'll post some otome pics for you to look at to get a better sense of what im saying.

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>>9523240
top embroidered with details, bottom could be pants with that sort of regimental stripe pattern which is common in otome. it'd be cool if you could get something made highweighsted and add the gold button details! socks with fun pattern, tie with fun pattern. add accessories like watch, rings, etc

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>>9523240
Top with cardigan, bottom with bold pattern. socks to match

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>>9523240
shorts ! also rosettes are fun accessories

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>>9523240
This is more of a schoolgirlish look, but you get the point

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>>9522887
computer bg is pic related.
Phone background is puppycat's face for the lock screen and a pastel sky with little stars/clouds as the home background

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>>9523170
I follow an otome girl who posts outfit shots of her male counterpart, i think it's good inspiration
1/2

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>>9523170
2/2
actually really love your example pic

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>>9523170
Could do what 831acre does with her boyfriend on instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/831acre/

Although you'll probably need a gf decked out in JM to match...

>>9523275
woah holy crap anon. We're on the same brainwave

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>>9523276
>https://www.instagram.com/831acre/
this girl is out there living the life i wish i had jesus fuck

>tfw will never have cute boyfriend to match with my outfits

>>9523292
I actually think the boyfriend runs the TokyoDisneyResorts insta cause their photography style is really similar?

>>9523232
the ones who aren't shit tend to go indie or disappear quietly into the night...

Soo lolibrary is down again?

>>9523353
Works fine for me.

>>9523292
Why are they hiding their faces in each picture?
Is it because they are both ugly and it would disturb the pictures? Or just hiding identities?

>>9523365
A lot of japanese lolitas hide their identity, your newfag is showing

>>9523249
Goddamn I wish my bf liked sailor collars/jackets. He's a weeb so he thinks they're too girly for him and completely forgets that the original wearers of sailor clothes were, well, fucking sailors.

Secrets

>>9523384
finally, but only fucking 4. kinda boring this week

>>9523384
A whole four secrets. Wow.

>>9523384
>>9523390
>>9523391
There was a 5th but was deleted really quickly.

>>9523393
Do you recall what it was about?

What happened at Nan Desu Kan?

Is there anything specifically wrong with sack-cuts or are people just being salty?

>>9523407
They're not flattering unless you are petite and a lot of gulls get salty over that.

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Seriously laughing at this girl in RC. No you don't get less likes because you're black, you get them because your pictures are bad, your coordinate sucks, or both. If anything black girls get more asspat likes on awful shit. Fuck. Off.

>>9523434
>creamy choco babies
What the fuck

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>>9522887
I can't live without the juice

>>9523232
>good craftsmanship
>that uneven af band stitching on the waist

Your attention to detail is lacking if you think this is good craftsmanship

>>9523407
worst cut ever, that's why. with boobs you look preggers, without boobs you look preggers. unless you wanna go for that look. the only thing that will make a sack dress look decent is a belt

>>9523434
I wonder if this is a mentality that came from cosplay? Not talking about her skincolor, but posting for likes. I've noticed the girls in my comm who post to CoF often and have a good camera used to cosplay, and besides them nobody really posts their coords except when they made a special effort for a big event or got their dream dress or something. But it may just be my comm.
I hate it when people act like we all want likes.

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>>9522887

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>>9523478
I disagree. They can look good on girls with a B cup or less, but it's not just that criteria someone has to fit to look good in a sack dress, which is why they're almost universally hated. You have to have a small bustline in general as well as thin arms, thin legs, and an elegant neck in order to pull it off.

>>9523489
True. I'm a pear with a skinny upper body but relatively big thighs, so a cut that shows off my legs (damn your shortness HL) but doesn't define my small bust/underbust/waist makes me look much larger overall. Thin arms alone don't really make up for that.
I don't mind that sack dresses exist but I do get annoyed when they're the only option. At least throw us a skirt or something, AP!

>>9523489
I've a small bust and thin arms, but I guess it's my legs then. not sure about my neck? idk

>>9523496
>I don't mind that sack dresses exist but I do get annoyed when they're the only option.

Yeah, I personally love sack dresses and most high waist cuts (but like, AP's cosmic jsk is a disaster imo) but I don't understand why they'd be the only cuts available for certain prints when they literally only look good on such a small subset of people

>>9523394
It was about a girl (supposedly) falsely accusing an ouji in her comm of rape or something and getting him banned from the comm without his side of the story being told first. It had images of both of them and their faces were blurred out. I dont know who they are or which comm but i saw someone posting about it in a few CoF threads ago. But i think the whole page was deleted because i tried to refresh and see new comments, but lj said the page didnt exist, so i went back to the main btb page and there was a new post but there were only 4 secrets instead of 5 and the ones that remained were out of order

>>9523482
I love this one!

>>9523384
Secrets are officially dead :(

>>9523434
I just looked at her CoF posts and they are one of three things:
>Boring as fuck
>Borderline ita
>Horrible badly lit/blurry selfies.

Girl it's not cause you black

>>9523174
I completely agree. I appreciate the strict rules of the aesthetic and would not expect any sort of positive reaction from jumping into a comm with a fit that is decidedly non-lolita.

I'm not sure if I would ever feel comfortable with meetups in general. Male fashion meetups are barely even a thing, and I've never felt the urge to participate in a local meeting. Lolita does have lifestyle aspects that help make meetups a more worthwhile experience, but I don't think I'd feel comfortable attending that kind of meetup unless my gf was in a comm.

A lone dude participating in a lolita meetup seems really suspect.

>>9523177
The focus on tone is what ultimately caught my attention. I've seen plenty of examples of cheap costumey lolita that dudes (and some ladies) wear to Halloween parties and anime conventions. I was surprised and delighted over the past couple of days when I started looking into the major lolita brands.

Themes, strict color coordination, and large prints are all very interesting to me, and they are all essentially non-existent in modern male fashion.

>>9523217
This sounds really cute. I think ouji looks pretty good on women and on slender Asian men, but I think I'd just look like I'm age-playing as a toddler. Additionally, Aristocrat seems to veer a bit too close to steampunk for my tastes. The tonal balance seems a bit too tough for me to successfully pull off.

>>9523240
>>9523243
>>9523244
>>9523246
Thank you. I'll take a deeper look into this.

>>9523249
I really like this as a middle ground between traditional menswear/preppy aesthetics and full-on dressy dresses. It looks like it's actually made of quality materials unlike a generic 'sailor girl' costume. The leather bag seems really nice as well. The blazer definitely makes the whole thing more covert.

>>9523272
>>9523275
>>9523276
I'm certain they aren't wearing normal Disney host outfits, but their fits (and Disneyland tags everywhere) remind me of the Disneyland ghost host costumes. Of course, their outfits have upgraded the materials, details, and general styling versus the standard issue costume. Vintage Disney host costumes might be worth further research.

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>>9523572
Aristocrat veers too steampunk? What? Maybe the western interpretation of it.

My boyfriend wears aristocrat and EGA and he's a white guy. I do think some more mature ouji styles would work on him, but he's against anything with shorts.

NICE LOLI CLOTHES
Some whiny cunt told me that calling someone in lolita fashion a loli is like anally masturbating with the remains of a 9/11 victim while suicide bombing myself, is this true?

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>>9523607

>>9523518
Ah that'll be the guy that was defending himself on the last CoF thread....dont know who the girl is tho

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My friends are complaining that the secrets are dying because it's on livejournal. But come on, fandoms are fine on livejournal so why not a fashion community? Sims normally gets 20+ secrets. There's a closed jpop comm I can't join because they can't keep up with the join requests.

>>9523607
I call my style goth loli when normies ask but cgl is really anal about it.

quick question: Ive been wanting invest in some ETC and JM pieces for more casual wear (specifically JM's preppy styles) and I was wondering whether Im going to need to purchase a more casual/less poofy petti or whether its accepted to go petti-less?

>>9523680
It really depends. Some JM already have one or two layers inside and some ETC dresses look really bad without petticoat, on the other hand JM skirts and a lot of ETC skirts don't fit petticoats.

>>9523240
This is a really interesting concept for mixing with a dandyish look, but don't suggest salopettes to men. Dungaree shorts are instant ageplay on guys, gotta be careful of normal shorts + socks as well. Long dungarees like >>9523272 straddle an awkward line between childish and old-fashioned factory worker - how they came off would really depend on the face and body type of the guy wearing them.

>>9523409
Even petite girls tend to look fat/pregnant in them. They're also really babyish looking.

There's also an ouji thread to check out (>>9460968) and we should have a Manly Monday thread up soon about masculine jfash in general if maleanon keeps up the good work. If you search Manly Monday in the archives some others should come up but not all 4chan archives save pictures so it might not be much good.

>>9523650
Is that pic from the sims?!

>>9523680
Completely depends on the dress, how poofy your existing pettis are, etc, etc. It might be best to wait to see how it looks when it arrives, you often can't judge online.

>>9523607
Obviously not that hyperbolically bad but I hate it, where I live virtually nobody knows what lolita fashion is but plenty of weebs, weebs' friends and people who frequent Internet pornsites know that "loli" is anime pedo porn. It makes me cringe when people say it's less embarrassing than saying lolita.

>>9523696
yes, it's from the secrets comm for the sims

>>9523607
Yes

>>9523698
Im going to need to see this, link please and thank you

>>9523738
Simsecret.livejournal.com

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Vivienne Westwood are having a sale, including a lot of orb jewellery and the heart bags, plus some cardigans:
http://www.viviennewestwood.com/en-gb/shop/sale/jewellery-womens
http://www.viviennewestwood.com/en-gb/shop/sale/accessories-womens

A few things like the more popular keyrings and the red colourways of both heart bags have sold out since the sale started this morning, but all the loliables in my pic are still up.

>>9523741
Bless you

>>9523746
I'm not that bless-worthy, I got the email notification about this sale 12 hours ago and only just bothered to post it because I didn't want to increase competition for pieces I wanted.

Joke's on me because everything I was looking at except rings and one expensive novelty bag sold out anyway, and I'm super hesistant to buy rings online because don't know my ring size and I'm worried about measuring wrong since my knuckle is quite a lot thicker than the base of my finger.

>>9522887
I used to have a picture of a cute alcapasso as one, but i recently got into fred astaire and ginger rogers films so i have a picture of them from Swing Time!
Yours is super cute though!
maybe some cute lolita phone wallpapers will help motivate me!

>>9523759
>ring size
Here's what I did, anon. Go to any jewelry store and ask them if they'll size you for a ring. If you're not comfortable asking someone you can go to any store like Forever 21 or Claires that has rings clearly marked as "Size __" on the packaging and try them. They may be zip-tied to the packaging and if they are then keep trying until you get one on. This means it's a size too big since it's factoring in the zip tie, so roughly assume your ring size is one down from that.

>>9523808
I've actually never seen sized jewellery in a cheap store like Claire's, they're nearly all adjustable rings or one size only. I'd like to go to a jewellers but I live in the middle of nowhere and it'll be a week until I'm next in the city. Maybe I should try measuring existing rings I have.

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>>9523853
The packaging should have a number on it.

Since the cof threads have been disastrous lately, what are your thoughts on doing coord posts from IG instead? The algorithm is wonky but I think it could work. The dump would come from anything under the #lolitafashion tag

I know there's an IG thread but I dont think an image dump like that would be appropriate

>>9523928
it isn't the source of the posts that is the problem, it's the fact that newbs are disrespectful/unaware and can't be assed to lurk before posting.
you can start a themed coord thread for focused dumps. I don't think a random coords from IG thread would be successful. all those can be easily found since they're public.

>>9523928
>The dump would come from anything under the #lolitafashion tag

that would be a disaster of itas, kinksters (lg and sissies), & ita kinksters. bad idea.

>>9523928
Nope. The only way to get a feed of quality coordinates would be to have someone curate specific accounts that people could submit to and follow. Or create a rating community-type of group where you have to prove that you wear lolita before you join, and that your coords are good enough to share.

>>9523941
Bad idea? Sounds like a fucking great idea to me!

Does anyone have any thoughts of the brand Sweet Addiction? They have really cute prints and i see feedback, but the feedback stops about late May.. any thoughts or personal experience with them? Thanks.

>>9523986
I've only seen one in person, and this was about 2 years ago, but the print was really faded looking, cheaply printed fabric. I think the construction was alright, it didn't stand out to me, so some of their nonprint stuff might be nicer

>>9523994
Alright thank you

>>9523277
They're my dream couple ;___; why no kawaii bf for me?

Did anyone else catch lovelylor's video today? Apparently there's going to be a new GLB printed in canada

>>9523473
Nitpick compared to the average monstrosities handmade itas seem to shit out - the rest is passable.

>>9523986
I bought a dress off of them 2 years ago. It was really nice and well constructed. I made an order for a jsk back in march. I still havent recieved it yet. Even though they are in mexico apparently their suppliers and fabric printers are in the USA and have been having trouble with the post and customs getting their supplies shipped to them, and then orders they are trying to ship out being sent back from customs. At least that is what I was told. I dont have any reason not to believe them as the last time there was no shipping wait, and since these problems have occured i havent seen them post on their fb. I guess it makes sense that they wouldnt post updates if they they cant get their fabric across the border.

>>9522051
This print is cute but it would look awful on anybody with tits ;_;

Here's to hoping they do a special set cut that looks better.

>>9523986
I have had two printed jsk from them and gotten rid of both. Fabric quality was acceptable but thin; construction was fine-- Shirring panels were executed and hems were straight and clean. The waist ties were sewn in; yet on one they did have adjustable length shoulder straps.. I'm 163cm tall and they were both too short on me, even with the straps at its longest on the one that provided thst option.

>>9523928
I'd really prefer not to see an IG dump thread. CoF is the most polished of lolita coords or those that are knowingly putting themselves in the spotlight of others that are good at the fashion.

#lolitafashion gets nymphets, fetishests, and all sorts of garbage from those that are clearly outsiders or are hashtag spamming.

>>9523272
>>9523275
Hipster trash

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>>9523489
These cuts are just unflattering on anyone. I never liked the whole "But skinny people can wear baggy/shapeless clothing". Do you think anyone wants to be swallowed in their clothes and lose their entire form?

Pic related is the only way to make this OP look bearable on anyone, even if they were meant for the back.

>>9524101
I never thought Lolita has to look flattering. If I wanted to wear flattering clothes or clothes that make me look attractive I wouldn't wear Lolita at all.

>>9524105
Lolita is very flattering for pear-shaped people.

>>9524108
But not the most flattering of styles they could ever wear

Does JetJ have a physical store? just wondering

>>9523986
wasn't there a bad review of them a short while ago (somewhere on facebook, I think rufflechat?). that might explain the feedback stop, people might refrain from buying since then.

>>9524110
For me personally, classic A-line dresses with a gathered bust and a skirt that ends at the knees really are the most flattering thing I can possibly wear. I love cupcake dresses and high waists too though and those are less flattering.

>>9524110

Gothic lolita too, Moitie tends to be minimal sillhoutte with just enough lace and embellishments for a touch of luxury. Atelier Pierrot does the structured corset dresses with a really poofy skirt that emphasises a smaller waist.

Not every substyle is puff sleeves and giant poofballs of ruffles.

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Reccomendations for places to buy lolita suitable sneakers/casual shoes? preferably with a bigger size range. I'm struggling to find the AP ones in L and even then I'd be worried they'll be a little too small.

I need some pairs for casual looks + days with long walks.

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When writing a lolita guide do you think it's okay to use the pictures of other people? The guides I read when I started out did do that without giving credit. A lot of them were from Japanese lolitas, but obviously those girls didn't post it with the intention of being used on someone else's blog. Whereas if you post on CoF it's pretty much assumed your coord can and will be re-posted.
I've asked a few (efamous) girls if I could use their coords but most of them didn't bother to reply.

Requesting advice with posing for coord shots, please! I tend to make really derpy faces, and I never know what to do with my feet to make the most flattering look.

>>9524255
Put a sticker on your face

>>9524235
You sound too new to be writing a guide.

>>9524149
I found a youtube video but that was all

>>9524051
Have you heard from them at all?

>>9524284
Yes my last update was yesterday.

>>9524260
How so?

Do any of you go to crystal cafe?

>>9524290
Alright well that is a good sign, i will check them out then. It was just odd how i had seen good reviews and then they just stopped for a while. Thanks.

>>9524293

Do you mean Christon cafe?

>>9524346
No I mean crystal.cafe

>>9524255
If you can't pose for coord pictures, you probably also don't know how to pose for regular pictures.
Just literally google "how to pose for pictures", it's all applicable information. After that, look at some of your fave coord shots and see how they pose.

>>9524235
Ask people to use their photo. If they don't reply or say no, don't use their photo. If you use their content in that way without permission, you can get take down notices and you'll just be a dick in general. People use 4chan to repost photos, but this is an anonymous image board and it's hard to control. If you steal content and put it on a site tied to your identity, that's completely different. Don't do it.

>>9524398
For lolita you need to put on your bitchface

>>9522887
Mine always changes! If there's a print or dress I really want I change my phone background to it as constant motivation/reminder to save up. I'ts worked pretty well so far

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Let me know if there's another thread for this sort of thing, but I was wondering if there's any way to help reverse the damage on the applique.

Mostly concerned about the wrinkling over the stain.

>photo stolen from two sellers ago

I have started listening to mana like cgl suggested. its pretty good

Friendly reminder to please wear bloomers if you're going to be sitting on the ground at a picnic meet! A girl accidentally flashed me her bush today. If bloomers are too hot, at least wear granny panties or something JFC ain't nobody want to see that

>>9524632
I just wear shorts because I like having pockets, even if I can't access them readily.

>>9524632
You should always wear bloomers anyway, her petticoat must've been super uncomfortable without bloomers

>>9524632
I think this is less of a "wear bloomers" thing and more of you wanting to write up shitty b8. Most people wear underwear.

>>9524632
everyone should always wear underwear under a skirt, what the fuck

i think she probably did that on purpose, nasty ho

>>9524634
That works too.

>>9524635
Lots of people were taking their petti off because it was hot.

>>9524636
>>9524638
She was wearing panties, but they moved to the side or something because I still managed to get an unwanted eyefull of bush. I wish it was bait.

>>9524640
>Lots of people were taking their petti off
thats ridic, im glad i wasnt there

>>9524640
That's an actual wardrobe malfunction then and more embarrassing for her than anything else if this is true, and in which case yeah it's uncomfortable but bitching about it is dumb. It was a freak accident.

>>9524293
Yes, why?

>>9524665
Its so dead here

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>>9524103
> Do you think anyone wants to be swallowed in their clothes and lose their entire form?

Yes? It looks cute. Plus, it's comfy and easy to wear casually.

Even outside of lolita, these sack types of dresses are popular. Go into any F21 and you'll see those swing dresses for like $10.

>>9524667
Where on CC or /cgl/?

Sage for double post.

>>9524676
On both, cc I understand because it's new but cgl has felt kinda dead this week

>>9524675
AP does like to follow trends and I think sack dresses feel more casual too

>>9524043
I saw that, I'm happy about it but I'll wait to see where it goes before getting really excited. I hope it features Mana, the GLBs weren't the same without him.

>>9524103
Girl in the pic you posted looks dumb

Sack dresses are cute and comfortable sorry you're a fatty who looks like a blob in em

>>9524292
In every guide I've ever seen, those pictures of "random Japanese girls in the street" are either cropped from magazine scans or of lolita models and brand adverts. Fyeahlolita, lolita handbook, lolita guidebook, Avant Gauche, the now-defunct Hello Lace - all of their pictures are of girls who'd already agreed for their pictures to go into the public domain. Thinking those are random girls candids rather than already-published photos is how I know you're new.

>>9524698
I'm talking about photos from blogs like the ones people re-post on tumblr. Some of them even state on their blog that they don't want their pictures reposted (in Japanese tough). I'll probably just go with coords of me and my friends but we can't do every substyle well.

So anybody else got their IW luckypacks?
Are there multiple Rose Flare dresses in each or it was just one anon having bad luck?

>>9524802
That dress didn't sell very well so I wouldn't be surprised if many of the packs have at least one.

>>9524697
If you think a big shapeless bag is comfortable and is the best fit for anything, you're the actual fatty.

>>9524509
I feel like the following might work: mixing offbrand oxyclean for sensitive skin (dye and perfume free) with warm water and rubbing a bit into the stain and letting it sit with a damp towel over to keep it moist. after 2 or 3 hours wash in cold water by hand or inside out in mesh bag on delicate in machine. finally, after hanging to dry you can keep it inside out and steam the wrinkles out with a handheld steamer. I'll have to look up if you can steam the applique directly, but just to be safe I'd pin the lining up and steam from the underside.

maybe some other anons can chime in and add to my advice

>>9524815
One is OK and even two in different colours can be justified. But I've never seen them put three identical items in a single luckypack. I get that they want to get rid of stock, but who on earth would be happy to receive that?

>>9524802
What the hell? Pics?

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>>9524898

>>9524818
>t. fatty

sorry i'm skinny and look cute in everything i wear and you don't

>>9524802
>>9524848
I sent them an email asking if it was intentional because it seems so unusual but I havent recieved a reply yet.

>>9524910
HWC, please stop shitting up the thread.

>>9524818
This bait is dumb. I'm skinny and a "shapeless bag" is pretty comfy. Why do you think sleepwear companies make nighties/chemises like that similar shapes?

>>9524923
>mentioning her name

Anon, it's shit like this that kept her around for so long, fucking stop.

>>9524220
Look for Liz Lisa shoes. Their sneakers are pretty cute.

It's been about 3 days since I won a listing on LM and I still haven't received an invoice. I messaged the seller yesterday and she hasn't read it yet. Never really been in this situation before, how would you gulls handle it? How long should I wait to receive one? Should I send another message tomorrow?

>>9524956
>>9524956
I had this happen, /cgl/ told me to be patient and it was 8 fucking months till the seller responded.

I'd say give a week before leaving negative feedback.

>>9524960
That's about what I was leaning towards. Thanks anon!

>>9524956
I've had problems with LM notifying me of winning bids and messages before. If the seller has any external links I'd send them a courtesy message through another medium before leaving neg feedback.

>>9524965
Really if you are putting things up for sale the responsibility to check on them lies with you especially since everyone and their mom knows LMs notifications suck balls.

>>9524509
>>9524840

Thanks for the advice! also I realize I used clunky language in my original post. The wrinkling on the applique is the biggest concern, not the stain.

>>9524848
I would be happy-I could be triplets with my friends

>>9524910
>Tent OPs are for skinny girls a-and I'm cute! you d-darn f-fatties!
It's for people who don't normally fit the bust or waist for their good cuts. Sorry you can't fit into normal AP.

>>9525090
It's for APs designers to shit something out quickly**

If we're being 100% honest this is the one and only truth.

>>9525090
normal AP is too big for me, fatso. what does it feel like to be disgusting no matter what you wear?

>>9525090
nayrt, but don't be ridiculous. fat people just happen to like them because they fit into it, but sack dresses are meant for skinny people who can pull it off

>>9525093
I agree with this. Sack cuts definitely feel lazy. I wish they'd step up their game with decent OPs again.

>>9525090
you must be delusional if you think fatties look good in sack dresses
just cause it fits doesn't mean it looks good

>ITT: 4chan once again forgets that people can have different opinions about a dress cut without actually having a weight issue or being skinny enough for AP to be too big.

But please, continue to yell at each other about who is the fat dumbass that's wrong. It's not like there are better things to discuss or anything...

>>9525117
Yep
a fine day Sunday

>>9525117
Okay, but the definition of cgl is "Let's yell at each other about who is and isn't a fat dumbass or a skeletard" while the other boards watch as we deteriorate into troglodyte pieces of shit who pollute our own threads with replies to bait.

It's just how people who are too stupid to carry on a normal conversation tend to talk to each other, I don't know how some of these people manage in public.

>>9525137
>internet persona = irl persona

you are the true autist here if you think that somebody can't sperg out on the keyboard for half a minute and then go about their life as a fully functioning adult

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https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/brilliant-coffin-smartphone-case-black

>mfw I just bought one from Rakuten for more
Hope another gull can use this one!

>>9524632
Moshi moshi, baito desu

This board is an embarassment

>>9525137
>>9525184
if you want constructive conversation about lolita/cosplay/whatever go to reddit or facebook

we're here to be salty cunts

>>9524043
I don't usually watch lolita videos, was it mentioned during a live stream or did she posted on YT?

>>9525143
>implying any gulls are normally functioning

Okay

How big (bra size and measurements) are your boobs to fit in to unshirred brand? Or even older brand pieces.
I am working on losing weight and want some measurements to remind me how much I have to go whenever I want to pig out.

>>9524911
Please keep us updated!

>>9525300
25-27/65-70D. Depends a lot on the brand. My bust measurement is 86cm.

Well, summer just showed up in this thread

So what is the aftermath of the Early Summer IW sale for everyone here?

Out of 6 items I placed an order for (1 OP, 2 blouses, 2 bow accessories, 1 JSK) all I got was the JSK.

I'm just glad I didn't have to pay ¥2,900 shipping some headbows like some anons did. I'm content with my plain solid JSK.

What items did you go for and what did you actually get invoiced for?

>>9525343

Dang, still no invoice for me. Should I email them? I ordered 3 prints though, I have a feeling all three are prob gone and they forgot to write me a "sorry it's sold out" email.

>>9525343
I ordered 5 items (1 OP, 1 JSK, 3 blouses) and supposedly got everything (one of the blouses had to be sourced from one of the shops so my package hasn't actually been shipped yet), but I'm in Japan. I've never ordered from them before, do they favor domestic orders? I ordered at around 2pm local time on the first day so I wasn't particularly fast. Maybe my items just weren't that popular.

>tfw the USPS tracking doesnt work in my country
>parcel is from US
>am from Europe
I..it'll be daijoubu. Right?

I have a lot of lovely dresses I'm planning to sell. I really want to document the details of their beauty in some way. I wanted to do YouTube videos but am now thinking about a daily/weekly Instagram detail post. Which is preferred?

>>9525343
I ordered a jsk and a bolero out of 70% discount section and socks from 50% sectiin. Got invoiced only for socks and cancelled my order.

>>9525352
If you have an international tracking number you can try putting it into your post system and see if it finds anything!

>>9525350
Did you order from the Japanese site? I was there from around the start but used the English site. I think I only got the JSK because it seemed extremely unpopular and every colorway was in stock all throughout the sale period.

I do think they prioritize Japanese orders over English orders, sadly. The English site doesn't even have a shopping cart or membership, but the Japanese side does. It seems like if the Japanese buy first, it shows up as out of stock on the English site.

>>9525300
32B measurement is 81-82 cm

>>9525311
Honestly I'm very very curious to see what this looks like, would you be willing to post a pic without showing your face or identifying features? clothed of course I just am curious of your proportions

are they fake? do you have back issues? is finding a bra hard as all hell? I'm intrigued as fuck over here

>>9525354
YouTube or blogs would be better since it'd be easier to search/rewatch, Instagram stuff gets swept away in the flood.

>>9525382
Nayrt but wut? Do you think anon has monster tits or something? I wear 60E/F depending on the model, and volume wise my boobs are no bigger than oranges.
Finding bras is a pain though. I've just been ordering the same model from one brand for years now.

>>9525305
Got a reply from them:
"We are glad that we are pleased with our customers.
I am sorry that the same dress is included.
This Happy Pack shipped our sample items to customers, so the same items were sometimes included. "

>>9525382
Nayrt but D's aren't that big. I wear a 65C/D and get teased for having small breasts all the time.
>joke's on them though because nearly all Jfash fits me perfectly

>>9525435
cup size doesn't mean how big your boobs are, but the difference between your underbust measurement and the measurement around the widest part of your bust.

so you can have an F cup but they might look small just because your underbust is small too (taking into account that you don't wear extremely tight fitting clothes, then ofcourse they will look bigger)

>>9525367
Yes, I ordered from the Japanese site. That's pretty shitty if they do favor domestic orders, and they really should fix their shopping cart and inventory system.

>>9525438
>the difference between your underbust and your bust
>aka your boobs

>>9525425
So, not sorry at all.
Thank you for posting this!

>>9525440
I wonder is it possible to order from their Japanese website using a tenso address?

>>9525453
That's what lucky packs are for, y'all are acting too entitled

>>9525457
Really? For dumping 3 identical dresses? Why not 10 then, customers have already paid.

>>9525343
Ordered a necklace, socks, shoes and jsk, got the necklace
At least I did need that for a coord, but I'm still a bit sad

>>9525419
probably because you're wearing the wrong size? or do I have a wrong idea about how american boob measurements work? or do you have big but really flat boobs?

>>9525174
thanks anon !

>>9525455
Probably not since you can't use PayPal or credit cards directly on their website (the only way to pay by card is to order it via cash-on-demand and then pay the delivery person by card). You would have to use an individual shopping service who handles payment for you.

>>9525458
If you paid for 3 leftover dresses you get 3 leftover dresses. they're only doing this to get rid of stock.

>>9525463
*cash on delivery, sorry

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>>9525461
People really overestimate cup sizes because many big brands only go up to DD to cut costs, and therefore try to sell DD as BIG HUGE BOOBIES WOW ENORMOUS TITS when in reality, D's are really average for Westerners. I used to wear 32A because I thought that, having small breasts compared to other girls, I must be an A cup, but it turns out I really need a 28C. Many people who only shop at Victoria's Secret still think that any cup size over DD is made up or freakishly large when really, it might actually be what they ought to be wearing instead of like 36DD. Many women are wearing a too big band size and too small cup size.

I havent bought anything on yahoo auctions in like 3 years, and back then i was using a personal SS.
Testing out buyee for the first time, what plan do you guys recommend? is lite a bad idea? should I just go with standard?

>>9525300
I can't give a bra size as that depends so much on body type, hugely different sizes might have the same bust measurement. But I think you need to be under 92cm bust to fit into most unshirred brand. I'm 86cm and some pieces are a little tight but I've never come across any brand item, even owning 20 oldschool pieces, that didn't fit me at all. I also own brand items that are too big on me at 86, including older and unshirred pieces. There are a lot of older pieces with 84cm maximum, but I can get down to that with a sports bra. A small amount of pieces are 82cm max but at that point you'd be too small for a lot of modern releases, so it's not a useful goal (plus most of the old tiny releases are super short and wouldn't look right unless you were under 5'2", even if your bust was 82cm).

Personally I think if you're in the 84-89cm range you can use shapewear to fit most things (I switch between no bra, sports bra, un-padded bra, normal thinly padded bra, thickly padded bra, etc. depending on the dress), but the ideal size range really depends on your preferred brand. Depending on your height, some empire waisted cuts might not fit properly even if you're an A-cup because your torso is too long for the dress.

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Boys and girls of every age
Wouldn't you like to see something strange?
Come with us and you will see
This, our town of Halloween

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This is Beetle
this is bad as can
and he knows he's the best

>>9525461
Not really?
Chest circumference: 60 cm. Bust circumference: 90 cm (give or take). A 30 cm difference = F cups.
Oranges may be big objectively, but they appear so when you put them on a small frame like mine.
Also I'm using Euro sizes. Amarican band size are batshit.

>>9525554
*not be big, ffs

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>>9525547
I now love it just because of the nightmare before christmas reference.

>>9522051
For some reason I'm getting a slight bodyline feel for this dress. Bodyline had a slightly similar print quite a few years ago. This one is just a better rendition of it

Is there a way to buy from Violet Blue on Rakuten's global site, or will I need to take the plunge and get a shopping service? I'm in the US

>>9525569
I think you can just use Tenso?

>>9525300
32B. Unshirred brand is often baggy on me.

So when does IW have their main summer sale, since the last one was described as an early summer sale

>>9525554
Shouldn't F cups only be a 15cm difference, wtf? Each cup size is an inch in UK sizing, so I thought in euro sizes it'd be 2.5cm or similar.

>>9525382
I'm the same size and mine are real, I have minor back problems, and buying bras is easier now that I have money for really expensive ones

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>>9525382
I'm the anon you were replying to and other anons gave you pretty good answers already. They aren't that big, they are equal to 75C, 80B and 85A. It's most likely the true average as many people are using wrong size. I used to use 75C because I didn't know and used a calculator for the right size and it also helped me to understand how bra sizes work. I used to be something like 65/60B when I was skinnier and younger but I got into bc and my boobs got bigger. I use bralettes a lot, my boobs are quite perky and I could even go braless easily. No pain either. I'm pretty happy with them but I could do with less, especially in lolita a smaller cup size would be good.
>enjoy my sun rash

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>>9525643
Why did you feel the need to post a picture of your tits?

>>9525635
I'm >>9525643 and I forgot to add that H&M is shit but luckily as an European I got few cheap stores that sell decent bras in a big variety of cups and bands. I got few more expensive ones too and they are comfy though. I hope the trend spreads to the rest of the world too.

>>9525300
I'm 62/81, with a bra size of 28E/30DD depending on brand.
Nothing fits, everything is big unless it has tight shirring with corset lacing. It makes me sad because I was hoping I'd at least fit MM or JetJ. Seems like Moitie is the only thing that actually fits. Generally I just make do with things being a bit too big.

>>9525613
In July

>>9525646
Bc the other anon asked them to.

>>9525599
Same, I have to pad out bras sometimes for certain things to look okay. Even my MM stuff looks stupid and bad without a padded bra.

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>>9522453
I don't know why you didn't post this one. And yes I like beating dead horses.

>>9525796
B? 13??

>>9525796
>that filename
you've been on 4chin for way too long my friend.

>>9525773
I wear a 28D and sometimes I have to pad too. I have taken some items in but when it's got prints (like JetJ) I can't really do it without ruining the look. Boo :(

New thread
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>>9525300
I wear a 32G bra and I am 84cm around the bust
today I wore a unshirred BTSSB jsk from 2006

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>>9525843
>not knowing what an alto clef looks like