Animazement 3.0- Eric Vale is pissed edition

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He recently posted this on his twitter

Yea, the dude was barking and having a temper tantrum at the con security because he didn't have his badge.

All guest should know to travel with their escorts, or at the very worst have their badge that is issued to them at the start of the con.

Dude was a rude asshole for no reason, and escalated the situation by being a child.

Due to dealing with stuff I didn't get to do any costumes this year for the first time in over a decade and honestly I think I enjoyed my con a lot more. I wasn't constantly uncomfortable and I went to way more panels than I've ever been to before.
The rokugo performance was pretty fun, Decade's rider panel was one of my faves (grats on the costume win), and the pro wrestling panel last night was hilarious

Could staff have just let Vale in if not to save face from bad PR? Yes.

Could Vale have admitted that rules are rules and regardless of how tedious, there was no reason to throw a tantrum? Yes.

People are so fucking immature at this con.

>>9497269
I don't get why he wouldn't have just asked for con staff instead of arguing with RCC security. It seems like people are just looking for reasons to be mad at AZ this year honestly.

And all the people complaining on the AZ group in general about the con not replacing lost badges, like it sucks to lose something but is personal responsibility just not a thing anymore?

>>9497323
I think they're younger kids or irresponsible adults because, for as long as I can remember, most con badges were never replaceable if lost.
Badges are also required in most schools and jobs in order to gain access to those grounds.
Badges are way too common these days for anyone with normal sensibilities to be having these issues.

Also if Vale gave a true fuck about the fans, he would set up some janky signing desk outside and do that on his own time.
Not that I'd expect he'd say no to the money and security on his own accord.

Did anybody else have any weird dealings with the guy selling corsets in the dealer's room? He kept making uncomfortable passes/comments at my friend and I and even told me to come back wearing less clothing the next day.

I had a friend who saw the whole scene, and he can confirm that Eric Vale was being a fucking asshole to the RCC security staff. It's ultimately his fault for losing his guest badge. I understand that accidents happen, but you should be responsible and reasonable when trying to resolve a situation at a con where you lose your badge instead of trying to push your way through security.

>>9497492
Let me tell you. That dude was the butt of every joke in the green room after that. Thank the Lord I wasn't his helper

Had a decent time, this was the first local con I got a chance to cosplay at. First year going and didnt know what to expect. Mostly hung out, took photos and went though the vendors. Was there somewhere that had the panel times posted? The guides didnt help much considering they didnt have times or locations printed in them.

>>9497538
They ran out of schedules the first day, but there were signs all over the con and a notice on the website telling you to use the Guidebook app. Some of the signs even had QR codes that would take you right to the app.

What did everybody think of the lolita tea party? I wish they'd had a bit more to eat and it certainly wasn't like the brand parties but overall I was pretty impressed with the coord quality of attendees, the organization, little free gift, and the high likelihood of winning something in the raffle.

The people who actually run the con are looking at the official feedback thread on the fb group. And it's blowing up with negativity, most three complaints being about the same problems.

Quite funny how the constaff are responding to ONLY the positive comments and are ignoring the negative ones.

>>9497582
Maybe they secretly know they are boned after this year.

I keked at the comment where a dealer admitted all of their good merch was being sold at Momocon

>>9497532
I noticed one or two random people on Twitter talking about how he and his fellow VAs wouldn't be coming to future Animazements, which is kinda funny considering that I'm confident other Funimation VAs would come for the free hotel room and money they're paid to attend.

>>9497596
Vale's voice reaches far, but word's going to get out about his behavior too. He forgot to mention on his Twitter post about the arrest threat that he was literally screaming and throwing a tantrum when all security did was ask where his badge was when he just waltzed right through and ignored their inquiries. As long as other VAs can maintain basic standards of human decency, then they'll know they're golden.

>>9497601
I'm really curious if someone recorded the interaction between Vale and the guard. That should be good evidence on how each party acted.

>>9497593
Good thing i plan on going to momo next year

Severely disappointed at the lack of decent lewd cosplay. Too many bad Overwatch body suits. And not one single decent 2B cosplayer that actually showed leg.

>>9497606
Honestly while the guard should of course be held accountable for their own behavior if they were being inappropriately/unprofessionally, there is basically no excuse for how Vale behaved either. None. Even if he was being treated poorly or unfairly, it's his responsibility as a public figure and a human being to keep it calm and respectful, even if he is calmly and respectfully reporting the security guard.

>>9497624
I understand that. The guards can be a little too abrasive with how they speak with people and come off as unprofessional when someone is not sure of what they should do to remedy the problem. I also agree that Vale needs to be held to a professional standard as well and not devolve into childish screaming and tantrums when he can't be let through by security without a badge.

This con seriously sucked. Im not waisting time and going back next year. Worst Animazement I have ever gone to. Seriously.

>>9497581
It was great for a first year! I also wish they had something more to eat and I really don't like it being on a Saturday night but other than that I had no issues with it. I loved that they tried to incorporate stuff like trivia because it was a great simple ice breaker and fun.

>>9497691
i don't understand people who think this way? my facebook feed has been blowing up with people being like I'M NEVER GOING BACK but I've attended a straight track record of 13 fantastic animazements. One that was slightly off does't put me off to going again next year.

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>>9497532
>mfw suddenly glad I didn't staff this year and don't plan to again because of beef with a staffer and now this on top of it being a thankless job in general

>>9497795
Anime Hell was kinda shitty this year in comparison to the last few years. It wasn't the worst, but that's really only because I know the lyrics to Fish Heads by heart and got to prove it to people who doubted me. The AMV contest was lame too imo. Most of the panels were really good, I enjoyed seeing a guest that got to work on Urusei Yatsura.

>>9497795
The panels were lackluster to me and my friend who spent most of the weekend bouncing back and forth between AA and Dealers. All the interesting panels were 10pm and onward and since we were staying away from the main hotels it was just impractical to stay for anything fun.

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I only went to a few panels because most of them didn't interest me and the others I slept through because they were at 9am and shit.

I found a Gief though. Horrible picture quality though which I regret.

>>9497620
>lewd cosplay
>animazement
Kek

The magic died, didn't it? I've been three years now.

>>9497941
It does seem like the con is dying. Its been going down hill for years now

>>9497941
I think the main issue is it's the same venue, same local faces (if you're a regular), and the same guests. Once you've done it a few years it's just sort of boring.

>>9497949
So either change locations or guess? I think AZ contract with the RCC is up soon.

If you look at Eric Vale's Twitter feed now, you will see that he deleted the entire rant about him and the Animazement staff. He never dealt with Animazement Staff like posted, he only dealt with Elite Security. The security company has no idea who Eric Vale is, and they were only doing their job, as they are told, not to let anybody in without a badge. I always see the voice actors walking with Animazement Staff, so were was his protection group, unless he just decided to leave his badge in his hotel room, and walk around unescorted? I guess he figured he was libel for false accusations, so he decided to delete them before being sued tens of thousands of dollars. It is clearly printed on their website that if you buy a badge and lose it, they will not let you in. You will have to buy another badge at door prices to enter. If you lose your house key, the locksmith will not give you one for free, you have to buy another one. If you lose a $100 bill, the bank will not give you another one.

If he was right in any of it, he wouldn't have deleted his twitter comments. I think he should go back to Animazment again next year, except do it for free, and on his dime, pay for his on travel, and hotel expenses. He owes Animazement, and the public that much, after it, was his fault, and his fault alone.

>>9498002
I noticed that too. I was curious if he said anything else tonight about it, and he deleted his tweets. I'm guessing someone like his agent told him to knock it off and delete the tweets before problems happen.

Who won the AMV contest?

>>9498058
Best Action: ileia - "Glute Gladiators"
Best Comedy: King Redeem - "One Horn Man"
Best Drama: Mysunsai - "Delusions of Grandeur"
Best Romance: Allegoriest - "Yellow Ribbon"
Best Trailer: Mittoh! - "Lolifield 1"
Best Upbeat: AntaresHeart07 - "DeCake"

Best in Show: MrNosec - "Numinous"
Staff Favorite: Maboroshi Studio - "Yuri on Ice!!! - The Honest Trailer"
Editor's Choice: Iren S.S. - "Kaikiphony"

>>9498002
You guys are fucking nuts

>>9497961
And go where? Nowhere else in NC is large enough for that kind of programming. The Charlotte convention center is just showroom floors, which don't work for the large number of things going on at AZ.

>>9498353
That's the issue, unfortunately. Everywhere was packed this weekend and it's only going to get bigger as baby weebs get old enough to go.

>>9498553
It'll replace a lot of people who are going to momocon instead.

Events I liked:
Best Anime Openings and Endings
Rakugo Show
Anime Hell
Tea Ceremony
Waifu Wars
J-Trap Jump Rope

Events I didn't:
Opening Ceremony (I don't know why I waste my time every year going to this)
AMV Contest
Fanservice Gone Wrong
AMV 20 Years
Masquerade (Used to be my favorite big event)

Over all pretty decent weekend, not the best animazemnt I've been to but far from the worst. But many of the panels I really wanted to go to were late at night and I had to drive home each day. I couldn't go on Sunday this year but I know I didn't miss much. Who's going to the Raleigh Supercon?

>>9498641
>Who's going to the Raleigh Supercon?
I'd go for a day but I don't think it'd be an all weekend thing for me.

I'm reading the feedback thread for the delicious post con butthurt and it's pretty good. It also makes me realize the kind of people that go to this con (several people only went to see Rachel and Jun...two fucking youtubers). I am glad that many people are upset that there's way too many general/educational stuff and hardly any anime/manga guests/events this year.

>>9498666
I wish there were MORE general events, to be honest. I remember when there used to be steampunk panels and the 501st legion did a Star Wars armor-making one and gaming panels and they never felt like they were out of place or taking over the con. I've always liked AZ because it was so comprehensive in terms of appealing to many walks of nerd and it seems like they've been trying to narrow it down. I liked it at first because it meant that Homestucks and Bronies wouldn't get panels, but now I really miss the variety.

>>9498708
Well it's not that I hate general events, it's that I hate wider Japanese culture/education crap. The guests this year were so mediocre. The only non anime/manga one I liked was the rakugo guy. Do we really need youtubers? An astronaut is cool, but WHY? A jump rope team? The kind of general events you mentioned were nerd tier events. The general events AZ does are normie tier.

The early bird special price for next years registration is $50.

Something tells me the price is gonna go up to $70 for the whole weekend.

>>9498752
Wasn't it $50 last time? I paid $50 on July 29th.

>>9498774
Last year IIRC it was $45 for the first week after the convention, known as the "early bird special rate". If you got yours at the end of July it would've already gone up in price.

>>9498782
I'm looking at my previous stubs
2013, reg in Dec: $50
2014, reg in week after con: $40
2015, reg week after con: $45
2017, reg in July: $50

So if it's already $50 the week after, then it continues the trend of increasing prices.

The best part is that most of the people bitching that they hate AZ and won't be coming back, will be right there in the RCC next Memorial Day weekend.

I didn't really go to any panels but when you go to multiple cons a year, even the "good" ones start to get stale. I like the idea of running a panel, but I just don't know what would be interesting but not too niche.

>>9498794
I don't know, there are always people who say "screw this im going to momo" and don't but this year I've seen a lot more people complaining about how lack luster the con was. Usually the general consensus is the con was decent. This is the first time since I've been attending (2011) that I've seen this much disappointment.

>>9498794
>>9498803
I agree most of the people complaining will be back. AZ is still a very "local" con and when you live less than a few hours away, it doesn't have to be amazing to go. But I do think we'll see some of regulars peeling off to go to other memorial day cons. I took 2016 off because 2015 was really lackluster to me and this year was more of the same. Maybe I will actually try momo next year, even though I said I would do it last year and didn't.

I also wonder how much Supercon hurt AZ's attendance this year. I have a good handful of local friends who usually go to AZ, but skipped it because they really are more "general interest/pop culture" geeks so chose to put their money into Supercon instead. Not that I personally noticed that much of a dip in attendance, but I do personally know a lot of people who are going the Supercon route instead.

>>9498641
I'll likely be there on Saturday since it's close

>>9498826
Perhaps. Should the con move up to March?

>>9498353
The Charlotte Convention does have meeting space rooms. http://www.charlotteconventionctr.com/floorplans

Also keep in mind they can utilize the Westin for more con space.

This Animazement was pretty bad, the only one I attended that wasn't good. Not coming back either.

>>9499055
>This Animazement was pretty bad, the only one I attended that wasn't good. Not coming back either.
byyyyye

>>9499066
Have fun with your mediocre con. The great cosplayers are now at Momo.

>>9499087
Honestly, most NC cons are garbage compared to cons other places. Why fo you think nobody makes the trip here and most people travel elsewhere? There definitely needs to be some improvement with content; everything is the same. People keep complaining about the guests and panels, that needs to be taken into consideration.

I was excited when I saw how many cons were here and quickly disappointed by how lackluster they were. I'm seriously hoping Supercon steps it up and the rest follow suit

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I feel like the same kind of people who argue about Marvel vs DC movies are the same kind of people who argue about which Con is best.

If you're a neckbeard just trying to be negative, or weeb trash who just wants to get drunk, or a cosplay snob who thinks you're not around the right people.. nobody gives much of a fuck. Those who bitch on the internet are a small minority of a small minority.

None of that has anything to do with some idiot industry guy making a jackass of himself.

Also, not defending AZ, per say - I do think things were a bit down during non-peak hours of Saturday during the day, but this is a world with so many local and regional Conventions, it's not going to be easy to keep a small or mid-level convention competitive without being accommodating, trying new things, and branching out.

That said, I had a great time this year hanging with friends. No, it's not my favorite con, or the biggest, but it is my first and my hometown con, so I still love it for what it is. I also don't give a shit about panels, and such.

>>9499142
I mean, criticism is to be expected, senpai. Good for you that you had a great time but that doesn't mean everyone else doesn't have valid complaints. I get the whole ~I only go for friends~ mentality, I'm the same way, but that doesn't mean I'm going to excuse a con that's boring just because my friends made it fun. If I'm paying for something, there'd better be something to make it worthwhile whether that's guests, a great AA/Dealer's Room, wide variety of panels, or amazing cosplays. If I don't get any of that then waste of time

>>9499183

Valid complaints = this con is dead bro because I say it is. Some perspective. What makes something worthwhile is highly subjective. It's cool, some people lose interest or go do something else. There are people coming up behind you to replace your dollars who might not be such a bitch.

>>9499055
>the only one I attended that wasn't good. Not coming back either.

so I'm not much for "brand loyalty" or whatever, but if I've had multiple good experiences with something and then one that's not so good, then it's the exception to the rule, right? If you go to a restaurant ten times and it's amazing and then you go and it's just okay, do you declare you're never going back? If you have a blast hanging out with a friend twelve times and then one time it isn't quite as much fun, do you say you'll never hang out with them again?

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So, this was actually my first con, and I went alone. I've never really felt the need before in my hometown since I've had a bunch of high school friends who were into the same stuff and had plenty enough fun with them, but not long ago I moved near Raleigh and found myself not knowing anybody, so I figured I would go to the local con.

I actually think I had more fun alone then if I went with people I knew, I was forced out of my comfort zone and I got to meet plenty of people because of it. Personally, the games rooms were where I spent most of my time and where I made the most connections. Chatting with somebody who mained the same character as me in one of the FG tournaments, showing off my mad skills in the music games in front of a crowd, unintentionally serving as bait in that Gundam fighter while my more skilled teammate picked off our distracted opponents and secured victory; it's moments like those that I cherish the most.

Will I go again next year? I haven't decided, but I can see myself doing that. I understand that I'm totally new to cons with no real set expectations, and that there are many legitimate gripes to have. Maybe Raleigh Supercon will show me what a real good con is supposed to be and ruin this in hindsight, but I can at least say I had a blast while I was there.

>>9499287
Supercon is awful. The staff treat you like shit, it's heavily overpriced, and there's no room to swing a cat in any crowd. At least it's like that in Florida, I hope it doesn't become popular and skill off AZ or some shit because I liked my experience a lot.

>>9499294
Supercon is corporate trash.

Really annoyed at the people handing out the bags and cards constantly.

Like bitch.. I need more shit to carry?

>>9499188
Or more like I've been to a variety of cons in different states so, yeah, you start comparing them when it comes to 'what con do I really want to give my money to?'. But, if you wanna get butthurt about it - that's on you.

>>9499287
I know what you mean. I've gone with friends and gone alone, and I have fun either way. When going alone, I can hang with a wide variety of people especially in the game room. I spend a while doing impromptu speedruns of Megaman X in the game room over the weekend to kill some time and have fun. Animazement does feel samey after a while, but I still have fun with it by looking for stuff to do. I do want to check out Supercon, but I don't have a hotel lined up, and I need to save up for another trip soon.

>>9499343
This exactly. Why waist money on AZ when I could give it to cons that actually have variety every year. All the good cosplayers have quit going to AZ also.
It was total underage weeb trash this year.
AZ staff is so full of themselves they never listen to actual attendee concerns either. Hence why they keep losing ppl. And why they always get the same guests....its pathetic.

Being a local. I've always found Animazement a great con to ghost. I did attend a couple odd times every so often. Way back in 2012 and 2015 and 2017. Each time however I felt out of place being a single entity. None of the artists interest me, nor the panels or the vendor's hall goods.

I've had more luck and fun just hanging around the hotel, outside the building or in restaurants and bars. On some occasions I've had people buy me a badge to hang out with them in the game room.

Honestly overall the game room is my favorite part of the con. That being said the con itself is fair. Its great for me to kill a weekend and just chill. It is fun to see the evolution of taste amongst cosplayers as well.

>>9498737
The Japanese culture panels were my favorite part of the con honestly. It might be that I've grown out of some of my anime interest but the cultural panels like the rokugo, the astronaut, and the general Japanese media panels like Godzilla, Japanese pro wrestling and Kamen rider were by far the most fascinating to me. I think it sets AZ apart from other anime cons that focus more on just anime and video games and "nerdy" interests

Just got home and I'm missing being there already...

Also missed my chance to get a Noiz CD, apparently they sold out super quickly. Fug...

All in all though, I had a great time this year. Did the dealers room seem somewhat more bland this year?

>>9498009
So just a bit of info about Eric Vale that most people haven't seen yet, but he didn't lose his badge, he signed it and gave it away to a fan, who's mother then posted about it all over her facebook page. Eric also attempted to enter the con via the underground tunnel which does not have line of sight to any of the places staff are stationed at. The security guard did radio in requesting a staff member, but before said staff member got there, Eric stomped off.

Also, all guests have an assigned staff member so that issues like this are prevented, but rather than meet with his staff member at their appointed time, he ditched them and tried to get in on his own without his badge.

And before anyone gets on the security guard for being super strict about this, there was almost a incident in phoenix where a armed gunman in body armor was stopped before he got into the con, so AZ security was buffed up in response to that.

>>9499566
There's a secret tunnel that also leads directly from the convention center into the Marriott Parking Garage and into an adjacent stairwell to the corporate offices via a stairwell.

t. me local

ugh. A little conflicted right now, one hand I really enjoyed going to AZ this year even though it was meh, on the other hand, If my friends are going to Momocon then I'll go too.

To those complaining that Animazement is turning into a Japanese culture convention.. it's literally in their name. "Educational Growth Across Oceans" and in their organization profile:
>EGAO sponsors an annual Japanese Culture and Animation Festival in the triangle. Our goal is to educate americans about Japan, Japanese Culture, language, and animation."

It's literally an educational convention for the family, they just get lumped in as an anime convention.

>>9499820
And to put it more basic:

>con organizes the culture aspect
>fan panels organize the anime/manga aspect

That's why a lot of official panels aren't anime/manga related because if they did those coupled with the sheer amount of anime/manga fanpanels run every year, there'd be no culture/education content.

What happened to the normally-wew-lad-big-name guests? I still remember when like half of Studio Trigger showed up.

>>9499338
>>9499294
>>9499287
You for all that is said and done. I honestly think Supercon will become a staple of the Raleigh area. Considering how most of the people that go to any con in Raleigh are mostly locals and the locals within the area are pretty much your basic person who knows what everyone else into (ex: Anime = Dragonball Z, Naruto, One Piece, / Cartoons = Steven U, Adventure Time and Avatar / Comics = Marvel 90% and DC 10%) so this will appeal to the locals more and be right up their alley for what they are looking for

Which is a sanctioned nerd fest that they can relate to and understand. Whilst pretending that they have a "Comic Con" that can rival some of the more bigger cons in the East Coast.

>>9499820
Also they get money from the state for it I'm sure.

>>9499886

I think it will be successful too Lots of idiots want to blow 60-120 bucks on autographs from C List TV stars, washed up Sci-fi film talent, cracked out wrestlers, and the odd Cartoon/anime voice talent. I get it. Cons are a huge part of the corporate machine to sell movies, and merch to the "nerd life" masses who want new Star Wars and Marvel underwear. It's a franchise, not a home grown experience though.

It taps into a huge demo that AZ never will. AZ is a market for all the kids in small towns across NC and SC who love anime and skew younger. Supercon will attract the older comic nerds who have money to burn to feed their lifestyle addiction and pretend they have access to Stars. Don't get me wrong, I watch more sci-fi and such than Anime, but I like cons that tap into what fans want and have an organic history to them. My favorite con is Dragon*con because it's fan run, massive, and has stuff for everybody. They get decent stars if you're into that sort of thing, and they have massive amounts of gaming and cosplay. I don't feel like I'm paying to be marketed to for the next Marvel shit fest.

>>9499904
>everyone I'm not interested in is washed up

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What part of the RCC was this idiot on?

>>9499904
>>9499905
No he's right. AZ can barely ever get people of notoriety. You usually have to know these people's work and most of the time its sub par at best. Occasionally AZ will get note worthy people but even then they are like B-Listers at best.

And I've been to Dragoncon myself so I can vouch for you on that. Lots of people but its still has some home grown roots that still showcase it as a con that is for people to have fun.

>>9499023
It was in March for the first three years. It's not actually a good time. You compete with people in school, varying spring break/midterms weeks, and venues are much harder to book than they are during the generally dead memorial day weekend.

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>>9498641
I'm glad you liked Waifu Wars. It was out first panel and we weren't sure how well it would go. We are probably gonna do it again next year.

>>9498353
Can't do it in Charlotte during memorial day weekend. Traffic would be hell getting into the city because of the Coca Cola 600 and all the hotels are booked for it. I've learned not to go anywhere near concord over that weekend.
I wonder if they could do something in Durham or, god forbid Chapel Hill.

I went to Animazement last year, and it was my first time there, but I'd been to Ichibancon their second and fourth year. I can't say I'm impressed with AZ after my friends had hyped it up all throughout my years in school. I didn't do any research on the guests beforehand otherwise I would have brought my Aya Hirano CD for her to sign (but even that panel was lame). The panels were really uninteresting topics so I wandered around with my boyfriend in AA for six or so hours on Saturday. (But at least it's not Vic Mignogna at Ichi '11 where the space was so small and there was only a few rooms for panels and the line for his event stretched the entire hotel hallway.)
I don't really like the Raleigh Convention Center. I was in there for oak city '16, but the concrete floors are awful to walk on all day. There's really no where to sit either.

>>9500451
There really isn't any place larger in the triangle and the RCC is starting to feel cramped. If we're not back at the RCC, I think we'll have to go to Charlotte. There MIGHT be something in the triad, but probably not.

>>9499904
Definitely how I feel about it too. I know people hate change but most cons are moving in this direction because, surprise surprise, more people (aka more adults) means more money for better guests and better content. Also means bigger crowd and more reach. Cons that don't adapt or grow eventually die. AZ has some stiff competition and nothing about it really stands out. It's popular only with locals which isn't going to sustain it forever

>>9500467
And then again, animazement has grown in attendance every year.

>>9500472
I will admit that my perspective is skewed because the hype didn't match up.

If you really look at it, it's been around a lot longer than Momo and yet Momo has much larger numbers.

>>9500538
Momo is also in Georgia where larger cons are common, meanwhile NC isn't exactly known for large cons. We have a bunch but they're all tiny and cater to teenagers for the most part.

>>9500552
Besides having the advantage of being located in ATL, they also have the advantage of being partnered with Dragoncon.

I know for sure I'll be going to AZ again because I enjoyed myself even if it wasn't my "best AZ ever" and it's low stress and affordable since I'm local. I go to Dragoncon, and one downtown ATL con a year is plenty for me. It's an expensive area to attend cons.

Half the people I know who claim they are going to Momo next year, are the same ones throwing a hissy fit about the $5 increase in badge prices and who could barely afford AZ.

>>9500574
I went to AZ this year because I had two 50% off coupons for paneling in 2016. My friend got the other coupon and literally all we did all weekend was browse booths. We never went to any panels because anything interesting was well after dark and we were AirBnBing offsite and we've learned to avoid the karaoke contests and the masquerade because of bad quality.
I just wish we'd had more to do but since we only paid $30 it wasn't so bad? But the idea of paying $50+ to do the same thing is just really frustrating to me and I can see why people would elect to just try a different convention at that point.

I'm going to Supercon in July for a day just to experience a more general nerdy convention. Maybe that'll either help me love AZ more or decide to try bigger things like Momo/Dragoncon.

>>9500574
>Besides having the advantage of being located in ATL, they also have the advantage of being partnered with Dragoncon.

Who can AZ partner with? Nekocon?

>>9501123
Maybe they and the Raleigh Supercon can keep begging for attending at each other's cons.

>>9497620
Play the game you retarded casual, 2B's skirt is quite long.

>>9501145
Yeah. Since they're so close and shit.

>>9499363
Took the words out of my mouth. I saw so many amazing cosplay pictures at MomoCon and barely any were at AZ. A bunch of great cosplayers at Momo actually live in NC/SC to where AZ is either closer or same distance, but they all chose Momo. When more and more move to Momo each year tells me AZ must be doing something wrong. All AZ is left now is kids who need to learn deodorant and showering.

>>9499209
If AZ had no competition the same weekend within a close distance, I'd give it more chances. When there are excellent alternatives competing to earn my money, I'll go elsewhere quickly.

Should AZ "reboot" or shut down?

>>9501513
Maybe changing dates would help them (maybe not back to March but at least not on Memorial Day weekend)? At this point, I really don't know since everyone seems hellbent on keeping everything the same.

>>9501580
I don't think it should shut down but a reboot is definitely needed and soon.

>>9501580
A reboot is inevitable when they lose the RCC contract after next year.

>>9501591
>>9501597
I hope the staff listens. I really love this con.

>>9501606
You're in for disappointment friend.
Some things never change, like my crippling IBS and Animazement's slow descent in quality.

>>9501621
Why is the NC con scene so shit?

>>9501629
Too many teenagers, too many small cons with similar content. Most of the anime cons are pretty much the same panels, same guests, etc. It gets old very fast.

>>9501629
NC cons are insular. The same people go every year, it's held in the same venues, the same rate and type of guests come, while the costs of attending slowly increase. There really is nothing special about any of them.

>>9501691
So basically, if you have gone to one, you've gone to them all?

>>9501708
Basically. AZ stands out only for it's relatively large attendance. Go to AZ and one of the small cons and you've seen it all.

>>9500219
pls do because that was one of the panels I actually liked. Definitely want to fight for muh waifu next year.

>>9501691
Basically this. If you're an older NCer you either know everyone your in your age group at the con or recognize their faces/costumes. We're a relatively small comm compared to other areas and even if you're going to GA or DC you still see some of the same faces.

What if they moved the con to September around labor day?

>>9502945
It'd kill Libraricon

>>9502981
No one goes to that any way

>>9502981
Speaking of small cons, what is your guys favorite small NC con? The only NC con I've been to is AZ so I should check at least one out.

>>9502997
I liked the NCCC in Durham.

Anyone else suffering form post con depression? I feel like shit.

>>9503302
I'm suffering from post-con crud. It happens every year, despite my best efforts to sanitize at every opportunity.

>>9502997
>>9503003
Oak City Comicon has been fun for me.

>>9498794
Run one with me m8. I got some ideas.
>>9499287
>Gundam fighter
Next plus
>>9499533
Yes. I saw more official shipment products and newish releases rather than what we usually get which is a mishmash of old and new.

Momocon cancer is alive and well in this thread I see.

Momocon is good if you are part of the Georgia cosplay clique. If you are not? Prepare to be shit on by the photographers.

But you are all gluttons for punishment so come on down and experience it for yourself. I'll be waiting for your whining facebook posts about how some cosfamu stole your asian husbando and shaved your dog to wear its coat as a cosplay.

>>9503500
>implying we don't all go to Georgia for AWA anyway

>>9503507
lol. NC needs a Dragoncon like event.

>>9503500
Yeah I ain't driving to ATL for anything short of AWA or Dragoncon.

Momo isn't really an option.

I think with corporate cons coming into the mix you won't see cons like Dragon*con ever again - it's been growing for decades after all.

First time going, I was the autistic boy running around in the intial d car on Sunday

>>9502997
Ichi is fun

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>>9502997
I like carolina anime day. It's pretty chill.

>>9503500
As if it isn't cliquey here too

>>9503693
Same, especially on a holiday weekend.

If I'm gonna put myself through that hassle I'll just try out some of the Mid-Atlantic/Northeastern cons that I haven't been to instead.

Especially since the Momo FB group has most of the same complaints about panels, guests, the dealers room, the rave music, etc.

>>9503960
True that. It's like the same dozen NC cosplayers that are the cosplay guests and/or contest judges at most of the little NC cons. And then you watch them give their friends awards and honorable mentions and such.

>>9498002
Lol that isn't how libel works, kid. He threw a tantrum which is embarrassing, but as a guest he also didn't pay for his badge so lol of course he wasn't buying a replacement badge for an event he was being paid to go to.

And yeah they didn't know who he was but I think they could've made an educated guess that he was the guest.

>>9504190
Let me tell you, the judges here sure do play favorites.