This thread is all about panels at lolita-specific events like Rufflecon.
What type of panels would you want to see at lolita-specific events? Workshops, presentations, etc?
Any specific topics you'd like to see covered? Would you like to see panels on other things that some lolitas are interested in, like antiquing or anime?
What do you think is lacking? What type of panels are you sick of seeing?
>>9495485
Can we do Lolita pannels in general? No Lolita specific events are anywhere remotely close to me and I can never go.
I am also sick of seeing Lolita 101 panels at every con ever. I've done a Lolita family feud panel before and that was met with some success but I'm not sure what would catch the interest of new and old Lolitas alike.
>>9495485
Whatever happened to that replica rescue girl? I would love to see more panels like that aimed at absolute beginners who have no idea where to start
>>9495510
Yes, that's fine! I only specified lolita-specific events because I didn't want comments like "well that panel wouldn't work at an anime convention"
>>9495511
That sounds really cool! Could you describe the concept a bit more? Is it literally just making replicas wearable, or is it different?
Maybe this is just me but I'd like to see a sewing-themed panel or workshop that focuses on different fabrics and lace types, done by someone who actually knows what she's talking about. Too many newbies still think that all polyester is bad, all cotton is good, small allover novelty prints are supa kawaii etc. Just a presentation on what different kinds of fabric brands use would be cool.
>>9495510
I want to run some panels at my hometown con but I think the local comm would either turn me down or steal my idea and do it themselves. Like, I don't know if I'm allowed to do a panel if I'm not on the actual "committee" or whatever.
>>9495617
Can't you just ask and say you'll do a panel with or for the comm?
>>9495485
do an ita to lolita transformation
I'm done with intro panels. I understand their necessity and I believe they should be included in cons to try and avoid itas.
But, I'd like panels geared towards more seasoned girls. I want something like how "lolita hacks" and how to take care of the wardrobe. Or even one to teach people how to shop on Taobao and 2nd hand sites because I'm tired of seeing poor coords and the excuse is, "I'm scared to shop on Taobao!" I'm sure there are other subjects, but it is just I'd really like something that steers away from the regular old 101 panels and focuses less on beginners.
>>9495647
A good idea in theory but something tells me people (i.e. sensitive newbies/itas/non-lolitas) would find it "offensive".
>>9495647
Can you expand on this idea? I think it sounds interesting!
>>9495608
No, it was a panel about how to spot replicas, what was wrong with them/showing how they were low quality and generally about discouraging newbies from buying replicas or milanoo type stuff. I thought it was a great idea since so many newbies waste their money on replicas instead of saving a bit more and buying secondhand brand or good quality taobao
>>9495752
Aah, okay, that makes a lot more sense. I don't know how useful it would be at a lolita-specific convention, but for a general anime convention I think it'd be really helpful!
>>9495752
Oh man I would love to do this at a con. I use to have a sugary Carnival replica (circa 2011) and the fabric felt legit like tissue paper and was see-through to boot. I was so disappointed I wasted $40 on that piece of trash and I wish I could save other potential new Lolitas the heartbreak and disappointment. But I don't really want to Shell out an additional $40 just to use it for one panel a year.
>>9496633
That would be really nice though. I got rid of the only replica I had (of Putumayo's Cat in Window) years ago, and surprisingly it actually wasn't *that* bad of quality.
>>9495674
The trouble with this is that lolitas who know what they're doing don't need panels, they're already resourceful enough (or at least I hope they are) to find this information on their own. Panels really are geared towards the general populace, and for lolitas that means newbies, itas, people who need guidance and a lot more talking-to than seasoned lolitas.
Also you do NOT need to shop on Taobao to have a decent coord, that's fucking ridiculous. You just need some taste.
>>9495510
It depends hugely on the kind of crowd you get at conventions. I did Lolita 101 a few times in hopes of roping in and giving newbies the best chance at going into the fashion on the right foot. Much as I'd love to do something else, I often find myself being the only Lolita at a convention here. Very few people in our community to to conventions so it'd either be an ita fest or nobody would show.
>>9499244
I think that being at a lolita-specific event changes that a little though, and that's part of the reason I was asking specifically for opinions on the types of panels you'd like to see at a place where more than 80% of attendees are seasoned lolitas.
>>9495617
Work it out with your comm, anon. Especially if they volunteer or present at the con.
>>9499244
A lot of younger lolitas who don't have their own PayPal and ability to shop online solo would benefit from a 'how to safely shop for lolita online' panel to drag a parent to. Lots of parents don't understand about used dresses that are over $xxx or using a shopping service or how to avoid scams or replicas.
>>9495485
I think a presentation on the history of lolita and citing its many sources of inspiration would be great. Bonus if different brands/designers had different slides dedicated to them and if you can scrounge up some quotes of things they've claimed to be inspired by.
This is something very seasoned lolitas will (hopefully) know some things about and have likely lived through the evolution of the fashion. But it could be cool for some newer people or people who would like to know where some of the brands get their design ideas from.
>>9499289
>>9499310
I'm overestimating the capabilities of the average con-goer. In my mind's eye, these young ladies just need a little guidance to plan their coords. Not children who need their parents to buy their outfits for them and keep them from getting scammed. Forgive me, I recognize that I'm being an asshole. It just feels like it would be a waste of time to spend an entire panel educating people on how to navigate a website at an event for lolitas when you could be talking about the fashion, about coordinating, about anything other than what to me seems like common sense?
>>9499312
That's a really good idea, thank you!
How do people feel about "game" type panels? I.E. Print bingo, lolita feud? I personally love them and was thinking about trying to host something similar.
>>9499332
You haven't had to deal with clueless parent of many teen lolitas or weebs and buying things, have you? It's tough for many of them and it's the parents who are both clueless and hold the purse strings closed.
It was just a suggestion so if it isn't useful, that's fine too.
>>9495485
Influences of historical fashion on lolita, a basic sewing and construction techniques workshop, a how-to on hostessing a good meet including serving an afternoon tea, a basic accessory making panel of some kind. Things like that would interest me if I went. Also brand guests and designers speaking about the evolution of their brand and trends in the fashion.
What I do not prefer: YouTube or e-famous lolitas as guests or speakers unless model level, RinRin, Minori, Misako, Akira, etc.
>>9499615
this sounds good because it doesn't rely on the information being novel
>>9499632
Speaking as someone who has been to Rufflecon each year, I know that there were in the past designer panels talking about how they go through the process of creating their releases. But since I'm not an organizer, just an attendee, I can't really make that happen myself, haha.
A basic sewing techniques and construction panel is super doable though! Thank you for your suggestions!
>>9499615
My favorite panel ever was a series of lolita games. It was really fun!
One of the games was a lolita version of the game "taboo" where people would pair off and one half of the pair had to face the other way and close their eyes as the word their partner had to describe was projected for their audience to see.
There was also a game where they'd project the name of a print and the participating groups of 3-6 would have to draw the print from memory. Some people drew some hilarious faux-prints.
I think if you offer prizes for 1st/2nd place for these games, people should feel less shy about playing in front of others or about their artistic abilities. I can't remember the other games from that panel, but those two were really fun.
>>9500639
Those games are super creative, and it sounds really fun!! Thank you so much for the suggestion!
I'd also like to know what everyone would think of a /cgl panel. I was thinking something along the lines of "cgl isn't just drama, there's some really helpful info and discussion"
>>9501517
A /cgl/ panel could be really cool. I think a legitimate discussion about the variety of people on /cgl/, the amount of threads on makeup, skincare, hair, regular lolita, different lolita communities, different types of lolita, fucking everything, and going into some detail about each one could be really interesting, especially from someone who's used to the board. It would be even better to get some suggestions from the audience and hear from other people who are from /cgl/ and have suggestions for how to contribute even better things,rather than just criticize or complain like everyone else does about it.
>>9501790
I was thinking of having it be really like "cgl isn't the big bad wolf" because I just hate how much of a negative reputation it has. Like, yes, there is a fairly sizeable amount of salt, but there's also tons of fun discussions and help threads.
>>9502486
Exactly. /cgl/ is an awesome resource and its honesty shouldn't put people off from utilizing it. I guess some people are just way too thin-skinned to use a site where people can speak openly.