why do generic nerds always like the same stuff? for instance zelda, doctor who, harry pottter, marvel etc?
Because they are what has been advertised the most and are most available to a wider audience.
Popularity leads to more production and availability to a wider audience. I feel like that's sort of obvious.
>Generic Nerds
Zelda - 30 yrs running
Doctor Who - 54 yrs running
Harry Potter - 20 yrs running
Marvel - 78 yrs running
Anon please stop trying to be a special snowflake by hating on people who enjoy things that have been around longer than you've been alive. Not everyone can be interested in your super unique animes and franchises. Let nerds be nerds in whatever fandom theyve chosen.
>>9493612
they're popular because they're good
>>9493716
Not the issue at hand.
The issue is why does a subset of generic nerd like the same exact generic things across the board?
>Tinder Profile: Studied at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
>Legend of Zelda t-shirt/car window sticker.
>Marvel wallet
>Doctor Who posting on their facebook.
It's like they all follow the exact same pattern.
>>9493730
>like things because they are good/fun
>like to see those good things every day
>since they are good they get a shit ton of merchandise that is easily available
not a big mystery
>>9493612
Lots of people like these things because they are old and good. That's all there is.
You aren't special because you pretend to be a hipster.
And this is coming from someone who isn't a fan of HP.
>>9493760
It's the hallmark sign of shallow fan to stick to what's the most popular because it has the most social appeal.
>>9493730
Because popular things are popular? All of those are incredibly prominent and easily accessible media that even most non-nerds have heard of. If someone is generally outside of nerd fandom but still enjoys nerdy fantasy thing sometimes, this is the subset of popular stuff they're going to watch, or at least watch first before diving into more obscure titles.
This is like asking why most people list popular music bands as their favorites instead of super obscure indy artists. There's not really a discussion worth having here.
>>9493612
Generic nerd normalfags though.
The real nerds only get into one thing but get really, REALLY DEEP into that and are good at it if it's some game or making things and it's not necessarily real 3D autism.
*cough* /cgl/-chan *cough*
>>9493767
it's popular for a reason
>>9493767
>Being this tryhard hipster
Large fandoms are appealing for a reason ya doof. Even amongst more hardcore nerds it's super common to try to watch/play what your friends recommend because you trust their judgement or you want to get up to speed on what everyone else is into. It's no fun being the only person on the planet who hasn't watched a super popular series that everyone else is talking about.
>>9493771
It's popularity isn't the issue.
It's more the case that these people only get into the surface level fandoms, and never go deeper.
Like weebs who don't watch anything unless it's been featured in Shonen Jump.
>>9493730
replace tinder with facebook and I have a female friend whos exactly like that.
Because they hang out with other nerds and get exposed to the stuff other nerds like, just like you have clearly been exposed to them and the things they like.
>>9493730
because when I want to make connections I'm not going to be talking about how much I love Twelve Kingdoms and 1980s computer games. I'm going to talk about how much I love Studio Ghibli and LoZ/FF and move on to the more obscure things later if it turns out the other party may be interested
>why is popular stuff popular???!??!
>>9493826
This! Everyone has some interests that are rarer than others, but you connect with other people the most over the most popular ones, by definition.
>>9493778
A lot of the people you're talking about ARENT weebs and aren't neck deep into nerdom so of course most of their watched titles are going to be super common and popular. Don't be dense.
>>9493716
debatable. Nintendo could make a "link shits his pants simulator" game and fans would praise it, cosplay from it, worship it, shame people who talked bad about it, and act like its the best thing ever. its just one of those things people are protective over.
Things usually get popular because they're really good or really bad.
popular doesn't always = good.
its basically the sign of a basic bitch casual normie fan who thinks they belong cause they watch the big bang theory and because it's so fucking easy to just get a costume for 10$ off a novelty store
>capeshit
>harry potter
>doctor who
>le mario and le kirby
Deadpools are more in the troll/cunt territory, though some are alright.
Notice how they're mostly westernshit or nintendoshit (mario is practically western by american standards) ?
>>9493966
What's your point here? We are literally talking about people who casually watch and aren't deep into fandom so yeah obviously they are "casual normie fans" who watch popular normie shows. Why do you care so much about how "big" of a fan someone is, especially when they aren't actually into the fan culture at all?
>>9493716
I wouldn't say all of them are that good... Some get pretty boring after a while, and even more when ever nerd is taking about it
>>9493966
I totally agree, and mostly about deadpool... I was really fan of him YEARS before they even announced the movie, and now, suddenly every single person knew about deadpool and dress up like him like if it were something they always did
>>9493941
Tons of zelda fans talk shit about faces of evil, spirit tracks, zelda 2, phantom hourglass, and skyward sword though
>>9493987
everyone must have the same interests as me
People like getting recognized
who the fuck does not love Zelda? Link can own anyone! He is even stronger then Cloud. (Death Battle.)
Someone doesn't seem to understand the concept of popular culture. It exists within every aspect of society, certain things get big and others don't. Also liking a mainstream nerd thing doesn't make someone a generic nerd or even a nerd at all. Lots of Harry Potter fans wouldn't consider themselves nerds, and lots of LoZ fans also like more obscure nerd stuff. These franchises have mass appeal, it's as simple as that.
>>9493712
Hellooooooo, Reddit!
>>9494412
are you implying that anon is sexy
>>9494271
Way to severely understand everything people have said in the thread thus far.
Nerds with time to socialize are all from the same era. They grew up with all these things. Old nerds have less time, but when you find them you'd better be ready for a serious talk. I have spent literal hours on Star Trek and I only like two gens.
Also a lot of people nowadays just follow pop culture and are exposed that way or through nerd friends who want to share something awesome.
Instead of hating on everyone for liking things, be happy those things are finally popular enough for the surplus of merch and movies. It's super easy now to get stuff outside cons and prices are still low, unless you're looking for first edition/ limited stuff of obscure series... (my personal hell).
>>9494137
>>9493941
Everyone praises Majora and I hate that game so much I permanently traded it away. Granted I was pretty young and could probably deal with it now but screw that game.
Also screw the game cube controller.
>>9493769
>caring what makes a 'real' nerd
>>9493612
Because people enjoy things, CRAIG.
>>9493941
>Nintendo could make a "link shits his pants simulator"
Well, while it might be a different franchise but still mentioned in the OP, JK Rowling has officially stated that wizards of old would essentially shit anywhere and Fecus Deletus away the evidence.
>WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE POPULAR THINGS
>NUUURRRRRRRR
I think OP's issue is that most self proclaimed nerds are only shallow deep in popular fandoms and don't make the effort to explore even though they've been a part of the fandom for more than a year. They just know the top ten facts of their favorite fandom.
I personally don't care if you like popular things, they're popular for a fucking reason, but at least try to give me another reason besides "it's good!" to check it out.
>>9498280
I don't see this as a problem as long as people can accept a healthy amount of criticism about their hobby. If you tell a harley quin cosplayer the movie was shit they get unreasonably upset with you.
That film was garbage, and just because you like it because of some shitty memes that worked better in another medium (the fucking cartoon she first appeared in for one) doesn't mean you have to like everything despite the lack of evidence that it is good.
In fact i think in general people need to be more critical. I poke holes in the things i like because i feel it shows a better appreciation of what it actually is.
Meh. That's my 10 cents anyway. There is nothing inherently wrong with liking popular things. Just the blind love is something I've never really understood.
>>9498493
That and the attitude can be really weird and obnoxious. Like someone that plays Asassian's Creed and watches superhero movies while calling themselves a huge nerd but shits on anyone that plays more involved games or reads comics/manga. I think that's what people are bitching about when it comes to shallowness.
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>>9493612
It's also obvious 99% of the retards wearing mario/zeldashit have, at most, played 30 minutes on the SNES and then considered themselves "gamers".
So now they dress up as nerds cause they think "this conventions gonna be sooo cool, im such a fan of zelda! I played that 2d thingy on my snes 20 years ago for a whole THIRTY MINUTES!!!"
same for all the harleys/deadpools who watched a single movie (and were texting on their phones for 90% of it most likely) and absolutely know nothing else trying to "fit in". But since the movies are shit I can understand why they didnt even bother paying attention to it.
>>9498509
>It's also obvious 99% of the retards wearing mario/zeldashit have, at most, played 30 minutes on the SNES and then considered themselves "gamers".
>same for all the harleys/deadpools who watched a single movie (and were texting on their phones for 90% of it most likely) and absolutely know nothing else trying to "fit in".
Sounding a bit frustrated there bud.
>>9498513
>t. middle aged fatass who cosplays as mario getting cut to shreds by the truth
>>9498514
>middle aged
>implying half of cgl isn't underage b8
>>9498493
I think it's because it's harder at conventions to find people who like niche stuff, and some of us go to them because we like niche stuff, can't find it anywhere else, and have trouble fitting in most places because of that,
It's frustrating going to an anime convention and finding that most of the people there either don't watch anime at all or only watch the extremely popular stuff like Attack on Titan or Yuri on Ice. The same with going to a comic convention and finding that most people are just into Suicide Squad or some other comic book movies. Or going to a gaming convention where most people have only played Zelda or Mario. Or going to a literature convention where people have only read Harry Potter and Twilight.
He/she may also be referring to how being a "geek" suddenly being a cool thing and people pretending to like geeky things in order to fit into a crowd. Meeting someone at a con, and then hearing them say something like "well, I played a couple of Mario games as a kid and I watched a Star Wars movie once" when you ask them about their interests is disappointing.
And when you bring normies into geek conventions, you bring the bullying and other drama that comes with them. Many geeks just want a place to fit in, and with geek culture suddenly being "cool" and mainstream, conventions and fan gatherings now feel less accepting of eccentrics than they used to.
>>9493612
Most of the time its advertising and general reach, sometimes its word of mouth that its genuinely good
>why are things people like so popular?
>>9501735
This is such a high school mentality. I'm not at cons to get into debates about who's a ~true fan~.
The main reason popular shows get popular is because of how easy they are to find. When I was first getting into anime, I started with Inuyasha because it was always on TV. Now, it's stuff like Attack on Titan (hell, my sister loves it and she's never watched anime before). Something becoming popular isn't the end of the world; it just means more new fans.
>>9502234
Except 99% of these zeldatards/nintendotards are people in their late 20s-30s-40s who maybe played a video game for 30 minutes once in their life and now went to a novely store and paid 10 bucks for some shitstain costume that doesn't even vaguely resemble the character cause "wow its so nerdy, itll be cool, well totally fit in, lol i got a 10buck costume from luvyababes im such a special snowflake"
>>9502488
And I literally couldn't care less. Like, honestly, this is why most people hate nerds. We're all adults that like dressing up as fictional characters and watching cartoons and yet we take ourselves way too seriously
>>9493612
Because they're popular. And they're popular because of their inoffensive, wide appeal.
For example, Zelda is fairly easy to get into but has a lot to offer. Kids can pick up and beat the games but 100%ing them can still prove challenging. The gameplay is simple and understandable even if you're not a hardcore gaymer.
It has cool characters, cute characters, and a story that's both generic enough to be relatable to anyone but unique enough to have points that hardcore players can discuss in depth.
The same thing applies to most popular media franchises. They're simple and easily accessible enough to gain wide appeal, but have aspects that also make them suitable for a hardcore fanbase to emerge. Best example would probably be Star Wars and how a fairly basic sci-fi film series spawned a giant fanbase and extended universe.
>>9502234
Ah. You're not into niche stuff, so you don't understand the frustration.
It's not about debating. It's about finding people who share our interests and ending up disappointed time and time again. It's about feeling unwelcome at conventions and gatherings because we're not interested in whatever the latest craze is and it being nearly impossible to finding people who enjoy what we enjoy. It's about being bullied for having "eccentric" interests when no one at conventions should care.
>>9493612
Consumerism and the homogenization brought about by internet communities
Threads like these make me wish I had been a bully when I had the chance
>>9503121
Bullying is never justified.
>>9503121
threads like these make me realize this is just female r9k
"normies reeeee, stop liking casual anime reeeeee"
>>9493612
It's not like this is limited to just this type of nerd. The anime community is filled with "anime hipster" types who jump between the same series like clockwork, for example.
>>9501735
Finding people who share your niche interests is one of the best things about cosplaying and going to cons in general. I've met some of my best friends through moments when we both reached for the same piece of obscure merchandise on a dealer's table or through spotting them wearing something related to a series/character or vice versa.
>>9502546
Yeah! We should never take pride in what we love! Especially when we suffered being an outcast and called a faggot in middle school for it. But, no, these guys who played an hour of one zelda should totally have the same "geek cred" as us!
And it's okay that people like this have interests in these things. Nothing wrong with it at all. It's just that, now that they're in our hobby, where do we find the people who are into niche stuff like us? Making good friends (not just casual acquaintances) is hard enough as it is...
>>9502912
>>9508939
...what? I swear, you guys just HAVE to make yourselves out to be the underdog, even in a community full of nerds/weirdos. Yeah, everyone knows high school sucked but...maybe get over it? I used to think I was such a special snowflake in high school until I grew up and realized there are plenty of people that share my interests (yeah, even the weird ones) and I was making things harder on myself by acting like I was better than everyone.
You don't have a hard time making friends because you have ~niche~ interests, it's probably because you're not a good person
>>9508941
I really don't like this "geez, you have to be special don't you" strawman.
I explicitly stated that I don't care what others are into. It's the, same issue with casual gamers vs hardcore games. It's okay to be casual! It's just that a hardcore gamer probably won't want to play monopoly or mario party with you as much as they want to focus on the harder titles that hold their interest.
>>9508939
Gimme your fucking lunch money
Tell others you like Harry Potter, but don't let them know you have a pile of Harry Potter smut in a door under your bed.
>>9493612
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>>9498598
this>>9502234
It's because it's popular and recognizable
people learn about this stuff first before the go in the deep end, if they go in the deep end in the first place like >>9493795 and >>9494511
said
>>9508939 seems like a good question by the way; I wanna know the answer
>>9493966
>its basically the sign of a basic bitch casual normie fan who thinks they belong cause they watch the big bang theory and because it's so fucking easy to just get a costume for 10$ off a novelty store
This triggers the normalfag
but it's 100% true
>>9519561
we all can't have sissy fetishes and boners for traps like you /cgl/
>>9494007
Yep, was a fan of him since back in days of him getting beaten to a pulp and sent back in a box to Cable's son.
>>9508951
Which is absolutly not what was said in that post. I have niche interests too but I don't treat people like shit for liking GoT or Mario. They're whining like being a nerd is supposed to be some super secret club because assholes bullied them years ago. Like, there doesn't need to be a separation within an already small community. Get over your self-righteousness and let people have fun
Accessibility
This happened fairly recently.
>in a small group of friends
>we're all interested in nerdy/geeky hobbies but it varies from person to person
>the newest guy in our group is obsessed with capeshit but has expressed that he wants to broaden his horizon to other nerdy/geeky hobbies
>I recommend Boku No Hero Academia since it's pretty much a gateway anime and is similiar to capeshit
>he immediately calls me a weeb and laughs right in my face
>after he finishes braying like a donkey, he condescendingly says that he would never watch weeb shit
>areyoubeingserious.jpg
He could have just said he didn't like anime and left it at that, but no, he had to prove that he was the superior nerd that doesn't like wacky japanese cartoons.
>>9519649
it's like you are intentionally ignoring the issue
the entire problem is that the community is getting vagued out of existence- because it's not a ''bad'' thing to be a nerd and there are lots of people who aren't really involved in nerdy things who are a part of it now and more than happy to announce it. it's much more difficult to find other people who are just as into it as you are.
the same problem exists in MMOs. there are so many GAYMURS1! who want to play, but they only play for about an hour a day and literally do nothing but dailies. they complain about content that cannot be attained through dailies or turn-ins and seem to hate content that is the slightest bit hard. there's nothing personally wrong with these people, but they actively oppose what i want in a game and are fucking impossible to try and accomplish something with.
i think it would genuinely be better for these groups to not be quite so comfortable with people who don't really like the hobby. they are the itas of these communities- superficially interested, but not interested enough to actually learn about what they're participating in.
>>9493612
I like Zelda because while I was growing up I didn't have a good upbringing. I had a terrible relationship with my father. Any way one year I fell down some stairs in front of my house with my nintendo 64 (while I was babysitting my disabled nonna... I was 14-15) and the (pokemon edition) nintendo broke. My father knew how much I loved it. And saw how upset I was. I was a good student, spend my social life either babysitting my siblings or nonna and I didn't even have time for a job or anything. I kept the house clean and cooked as well (of course I was a teenage girl so I won't lie, I did winge a bit). When I was 16 (as a surprise) he bought me a game console with Ocarina of time. I didn't know at the time as it was coming from a while away.
I used to do chorus work in the school plays (minimal but still involved) due to having to look after my nonna. About 1 month before "Production camp" (A camp when we train for the play) my nonna died which was really sad. At camp we had 3 girls hospitalised (myself and another girl had a flu and collapsed from dancing while being sick and a girl tried to kill herself due to outside reasons. After my mother took me and my siblings home (I was released the day I went in but couldn't go to school for a bit) we found out my parents separated. to this day I don't know what his reason was for buying me the game but it's something that helped me get through the most difficult year of mine and my families life.
I saw my father once since then. Mum wouldn't let me as he wasn't good when he was drunk.
He ended his life in 2009. Basically that game is the only connection I have left with him. He and his family had a lot of mental issues. I hope he has some peace now.
Sorry for the ramble.
>>9493966
Why Kirby? A lot of people play the game and it's fairly popular, but I wouldn't call it generic. It's a cute style platformer.
>>9519649
Nerd communities aren't that small anymore.
>>9493966
>capeshit
This is so hipster, it hurts.
>>9493966
>Notice how they're mostly westernshit
I fucking hate this shit so much.
I don't even hate all Western games/comics/whatever, but one thing that I've noticed is that all these modern plebs have this huge bias towards Westernshit. You see this in video games especially. Most of the 'gamers' I know play mostly Western games, because Japanese games are too weird for them or something, except for the giant, pleb-tier franchises, like Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon. You know, the ones that are 'okay' to like. There's this idea that Western games are superior to Japanese ones and I just don't really agree.
>>9493612
because a lot of them are normies and stacies that realized they could make friends or get attention/orbiters with minimal effort.
Also all other kinds of undesirables, like that sweaty guy with the fox tail and mangey fox ears, or that whale that carries around the same dollphie every year alone.
All the cons near me have fucking LGBTQetc and "lesbian voice actors" and "being in the industry as an X female" panels as well, and I think all the snowflakes are killing anime cons.
>why do generic mainstream people do generic mainstream things