ELFS Thread

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>>9465800

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>>9465802

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>>9465804

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>>9465806

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>>9465809

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>>9465811

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>>9465813

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>>9465815

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>>9465817

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>>9465825

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>>9465828

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>>9465834

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>>9465837

>>9465802
Grandma-kei

>>9465811
If you hide her face it looks ok. I wish she knew how to get a hair style that flatters her face more.

>>9465811
she just needs a medium length wig with soft waves or curls and it would fix the major imbalance. also tfw u know she's new to the fashion with her awkward posing

>>9465835
that is not a flattering angle, she needs to have either someone take a photo far away or do a mirror selfie of her coord at regular height angle

>>9465837
What is this dress? ETC?

>>9465800
This source of coords is going to dry up as soon as people realise it's all getting posted straight to cgl.

>>9466252
Yep. Taking bets on how long. I already know several people that stopped.
>>9466238
It's fucking everyday fashion. Why the hell does she need a wig for a daily outfit?

>>9466254
I was staggered by how many people on my friends list thought it'd be able to remain secret or that cgl would have the decency not to post it. It was obvious from the start that it'd end up on here eventually but I didn't expect it to get its own thread. It's really a pity.

Honestly what's the point of having crossposts here? These are casual coords, it's not like the people were trying to fine tune their look, just seems kinda petty to post the pics here, even for CGL
>hurdur go back to ur hugbox fgt

>>9466252
The group is pointless anyways. Might as well enjoy the ita fun while we can

>>9466267
Why not? People post the cof ones so why not this group too?

But it really does to already seem to be dying down on the new group.

>>9466273
Because CoF is more polished. This is supposed to be for fun and to treat the fashion like an actual damn fashion. You can keep posting them if you want but don't come bitching about how lolita seems like a costume and OTT is everywhere and you can't find good inspiration.

Cgl is creating the problem it bitches about

>>9465813
Apart from the shoes, I love this.

>>9465815
>>9465825
>>9465828
>>9465838
bretty gud desu

>>9466275
sauce on tights?

>>9466278
Yea no, you just want your safe space hugbox.

>>9466286
If I wanted that why would I be here?

>>9466278
I don't see how calling out itas is saying everything must be ott. Casual lolita still should be polished. It should still look good. It just doesn't need to be a fake wig and a bunch of head accessories.

Most of the issues are that the person is shit at either putting together an outfit or a polishing up issue. There are tons of cute and easy hairdos to wear for lolita.

>>9466254
>>9466272
>>9466273
lol I am totally imagining these comments coming from the cof creator.
"oh yeah? oh yeah? I already know several people who have stopped posting!!!1!! This group won't last mark my words!!"

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UGH pants will always be jarring in lolita. Just wear thick leggings.

>>9466252
>>9466262

And here I am wondering what took so long for dumps from the new group to show up.

I don't think it's particularly evil to be discussing casual coords in here anyway. We've got an opportunity to explore what we think casual lolita (should) looks like, the explanations in almost every guide tends to flip flop between "wear whatever" and "basic bitch lolita". Personally I think wigs and any type of crown is the breaker for me, if you're going to take the trouble to pin ornerous heavy things to your head then you're certainly not just throwing on a casual coord for the day.

The amount of bad coords and nitpicks amazes me

>>9466275
I really like this actually

>>9465800
I like this dress, but I really wish she had thrown on a blouse. not even mad about the sleeve tat, just kinda wish it was either both arms or none. the asymmetry is throwing me off.

>>9465835
I like the blouse and I like the skirt, but not together. I've seen that skirt go nicely with white. a sandy beige might even work. dark blouses seem to look better with a skirt that is dark at the waist and fades to a lighter colour at the hem, rather than one that's the same relatively light print all the way down.

the distance between her underboob and her waistband is noticeably short. the angle of the photo could be better, as the other anon said, but even taking that into account, her boobs look low. a more supportive bra might help.

I really want librarian-kei to be a thing and actually thought of a coord somewhat like this at one point. I hope she keeps experimenting with the look.

>>9466334
She said it was really hot that day so idgaf about the no blouse. It doesn't look bad imo

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>>9466304
Are you surpised though?

>>9466300
I think we will find a big discussion between people like Fahr who are not wearing casual (or ott since people seem to think it's one or the other) but she is wearing this for everyday...and people who are using this to post ita outfits claiming it's ok since it's "everyday" outfits.

>>9465825
This is the only good coord in the entire thread

>>9466390
Its not really casual though, which is more of the groups theme I thought. Its pretty cookie cutter, not that there is anything wrong with that.

>>9466379
That looks like a basic sweet coord to me, am I wrong?

>>9466299
What's this?

>>9466379
this is so fucking cute. fuckin casual goals goddamn

>>9466379
She wears a beret instead of an Alice bow, no overboarding stickers or bows, evenly spread bracelets. I'd consider this toned down sweet Lolita, but surely not OTT!

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So... this is just ita COF?

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>>9466491

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>>9466493

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>>9466497

These coords are more plain so there's not much to say about them. I don't think there's much point to posting them when the cof thread is always busy and has more interesting outfits, but do as you will.

>>9466300
>Personally I think wigs and any type of crown is the breaker for me, if you're going to take the trouble to pin ornerous heavy things to your head then you're certainly not just throwing on a casual coord for the day.
I think simple wigs like bobs are fine if you have short hair or neon green hair or something to start with, but since it's easier to put a wig on over short hair then it's less onerous and more casual to do so anyway.

>>9466379
People's standards for ita are retarded, though. You should be able to wear a blouseless coord like >>9465800 (but without a wig and fancy bow) or a coord without socks for everyday wear if you can style it decently enough to still look nice

>>9466275
cute fairy kei lolita

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>>9466494
Aww these are both cute!

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>>9466474
About that...

>>9466534
Most of these look like they belong on cof, when will people stop thinking the new group is casual only, most of these aren't even casual.

>>9465821
Honestly? Cute as fuck.

>>9466631
Right? This girl constantly complains that ppl on 4chan are ""soooo rude & mean" about her coords but i've seen nothing but positive responses and helpful advice for the last few outfits she's posted
she looks cute, girl needs to stop letting shit get to her

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>>9466289
To bitch on others from CoF instead of your own shit coords in ELFS

>>9466254
She doesn't need a wig, but she does need a hairstyle that makes her look less like John Belushi. A flattering wig is a quick way to achieve this if growing her hair out takes too long.

>>9466299
Leggings and tights show off the contours of your legs and that's still too 'revealing' for some people. IMO she should wear ankle-length skirts or knee-high boots if that's an issue because yeah, pants under a skirt always looks like shit.

>>9466370
>too hot to cover armpits
>not too hot to wear tights
Yeah, no. Short sleeves and ankle socks would've looked way more balanced than whatever she has going on there.

>>9466747
Id rather have bare arms than bare legs, sweat stains in brand isn't kawaii

>>9465800
R.I.P ELFS group, and fuck you for making this thread and submitting to it.

Can we not just have one fucking place for normal coords where they aren't ripped apart? Damn.. YOU are the reason this fashion will die, YOU are the reason lolita has become a costume.

>>9466765
But she is going to sweat onto the dress? Sweat stains on a blouse are no big deal as you can just wash it easily but the whole dress will get sweat without that barrier.

>>9466730
What dress is this? ETC?

>>9466788
Agreed, making this thread is a cunt move and clearly done out of spite. All these newbies in the fashion that treat lolita like some kind of special dress wear instead of an actual fashion are fucking cancer.

>>9466732
Ah yes. If I have a problem I must be a salty ita who has a coord posted somewhere. Newsflash dumbass, you can have an opinion without having posted your coords.

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>>9466887
Waaaah I can't have my safe space!

>>9466968
more like "waaahhh let me nitpick people's coordinates and contribute to the hostile nature of the fashion because I don't have any dresses of my own!!!"

>>9466968
Sorry you don't have enough pieces to actually wear lolita more than twice a month

>>9466788
Not every seagull that watches these threads rips people apart. Not all of us can see the coords on Facebook as I really appreciate all the anon dumps in these threads. Do you have a better forum to dump coords or are you just complaining because 4chan?

>>9467075
exactly this

>>9467075
So why do you feel entitled to the content of a group you don't join? Go look at instagram or tumblr if you want to see coords off Facebook.

>>9467075
Then join the group? Fb isn't hard to use

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>>9467141

>>9467141
Clearly new. Forgiven. If not new, oh boy...
>>9467143
Yeah! This is good! This is truly casual lolita. It's cute. It's just normie enough to wear as an everyday thing. This is what should be going on in ELFS.

Omg fuck off with this
You're giving concrit to people who are wearing lolita while running errands, how fucking asinine can you be

>>9466968
Does every coordinate on FB have to be fair game for /cgl/ to nitpick? I understand frustration when itas won't take concrit, but I've seen some of the most petty, insignificant criticisms come out of CoF threads. If they want to share photos in some casual group, let them do it.

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>>9467154
what's wrong with this? I think it's really cute casual!

>>9466275
imo this is really fugly
though i think that's just my personal taste

>>9467174
yeah, other anon is a derp.
the shoes and headwear are a cool pink but they match each other. this coord is very cute
very good use of AP's mini mini SKs

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>>9466788
>Can we not just have one fucking place for normal coords where they aren't ripped apart? Damn.. YOU are the reason this fashion will die, YOU are the reason lolita has become a costume.
Bullshit, cgl, btb/loli secrets, getoffegl and lolitaburger all existed and bitched about itas back when lolita fashion was on its prime. Besides that you're exaggerating, if "Lolita has become a costume" it's because brands produce and promote costume-esque fashion not because cgl critiques your hugbox. 4chan isn't and will never be tumblr or facebook, so gulls will post what they want. Just fuck off and go back if cgl bothers you this much. I'm sick and tired of your bitching and whining when we already have the no-drama rule.

>>9467202
It's actually a bodyline piece (used to have it in green myself) but yeah

>>9467206
I don't know why you guys keep calling it a hug box when con crit is accepted there. It's just a place for quick snapshots, what ever you wore that day.
You guys just seem really mad about nothing

>>9466499
She has such a good face for lolita.

>>9467138
It's not even that. Some people just don't like using Facebook. Privacy reasons.

>>9467314
>muh privacy
>hey can someone crosspost peoples' group pics onto 4chan thx

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>>9467317
>posting pictures where everyone can see them
in a public place
Hhmmmmmmmm

>>9467232
It's a fb group meant to hide from nitpicking. It is the definition of a hug box. It isn't like anyone does give concrit, COF does too but hey here is a different group to post instead for attention seeking.

>>9466390
I agree. Cgl has become far too soft and people excuse coords that are complete trainwrecks all the time because GUIZ ITS SUPPOSED 2 BE WEARABLE
you can have a wearable coord without looking half dressed or like a slob

>>9466299
I have ideological issues with the hijab but holy shit just wear aristocrat instead so you can wear long skirts. Hijab dress code doesn't work with lolita

>>9467327
Where did you get the idea that it's "meant to hide from nitpicking" all it was meant for is more casual quick photos. Cgls the ones coming up with the hug box safe space shit. I don't see anything in the description giving that impression

>>9467314
You're pretty fucking entitled to think it's your right to see shit from facebook when you're too lazy to make a fake account there. Someone feed me!

>>9467381
Cof is literally called Closet of Frills: Daily lolita Coords. It was always meant to be a daily thing, so another place to do the same thing is only needed because people are trying to avoid nitpicking on cgl. It isnt hard to understand the point even if this group isnt direct about it. Most of the good stuff is ok to post on cof anyways.

>>9467408
Why are there so many newfags here complaining about something cgl has been doing for years? I dont get why all of a sudden so many people are complaining about this when most of cgl depends on people screencapping fb.

>>9467427
Nah, it was made because people thought cof was too big and didn't allow more experimental shit. Stop trying to force this anti cgl bullshit.

>>9467431
Because they're retarded babies from tumblr.

>>9467435
It does allow experimental stuff? "We" on cgl don't. Don't fool yourself, the talk is always implying here when they criticize COF, not the group itself.

>>9467435
Wtf are you talking about, that's exactly why the second group was made, to avoid this kind of shitposting
Don't know about anyone else but I'm not really interested in mediocre as fuck 'coords'

>>9467442
Who's "we" seriously it's obvious people want these threads and wanted to see them. The group is already dying anyways, barely any posts in there. Stop trying to act like you own cgl.

>>9467447
Please post where it says that on the fucking FB page because you're pulling it out of your ass. It was made because people didn't like how CoF was becoming super OTT and people's posts got buried all the time.

>>9467327
It's got a purpose other than hiding from nitpicking - fact is, most of the members in CoF (including a lot of cosplayers/non-lolitas) only like OTT, and if you want to see simpler coords they quickly sink to the bottom, when people bother posting them at all. I like being able to go to one group and see the more casual coords in one place.

>>9467474
Were you not here when people were bitching and moaning about how they were sick of being ripped apart by CGL from cof and did you miss shitshow leading up to the groups creation? They can see it's because they're sick of OTT but that's absolutely not why it was made. And gee, I wonder why it's dying

>>9465821
Trying to figure out why people like this. Her face is cute, but the limp hair, low bustline, and clashing tights make this kind of terrible. I think a collared blouse (with no sleeves?) would make this much more better.

>>9467141
took off the jacket, this would be less hideous. That and a proper petti, some wrist wear, and wallah. Not a bad casual cord.

She looks underage and new though. Hope she keeps at it.

>>9467143
If I saw this on the street, I wouldn't think lolita. I would think retro. Her hair, the color combination, and being blouseless is what pushes this out of lolita territory and more so into retro for me. It's cute though.

Sorry for the blog post. Just trying to understand why people are thinking some of this stuff is acceptable, even as daily/comfy lolita wear. I wear lolita pretty casually, but all of this doesn't feel like lolita to me.

>>9467503
So you don't understand the concept of casual.
>Wrist cuffs
>Walla
>Blouses with OPs
>Gotta have a blouse

How new are you? Many of us in the group are just trying to get that streetwear daily lolita look

>>9467577
>>9467503

Also please check out oldschool street snaps. Research the history of the fashion. Lolita didn't used to be such a stuck up fashion, it developed as alt fashion

>>9467474
> It was made because people didn't like how CoF was becoming super OTT and people's posts got buried all the time.

> waaah i want more attention for my mediocre coord

>>9467577
I have seen old school Lolita and street snaps. Those coords dont feel Lolita to me. By wrist wear I meant like some cute bracelets, I would still consider that casual, it's not over the top but not overtly boring. I'm not saying blouses are needed, it just feels odd. Especially on the girl with the low neckline. I am not a dumbfuck saying put a full blouse under a op, but at least something to cover up the offputting cleavage. You sound more stuck up desu, calling me new, and thinking bracelets or something worn on the wrist is automatically not casual lol. To each their own, however.

>>9467497
There was no shit show wtf are you on about?

>>9467577
Also you didn't explain why it was acceptable and looked good for being casual. You just took things out of context and attacked my points with no back ups. So if you would like to explain your reasoning, I'm all ears! In fact, please do!

>>9467503
It's voila, not walla

Voila means 'see it' or 'there it is' from French. Walla is... an ignorant bastardization.

>>9467126
Why are you so entitled to think you can police what people do with public photos? Why post a coord in a public area if you don't want it to be seen?

>>9467626
Voilà*

>>9466497
I love this, it's so cute and wearable.

>>9467646
Why are you being a bitch and posting photos here that people clearly don't want to be here?

>>9467587
>Post coords to both CoF and ELFS
>Same audience
>My coord is Ott and casual

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>>9465823
Okay but can we talk about what the fuck is going on with this room because I am so confused

>>9467626
Ironically, "walla" is widely used in france now because of arabs

>>9467435
Cof is called "cof:Daily Lolita coords" beacause of the vestigial remnant of the daily Lola community on livejournal. The FBI comm as it is now has an entirely different set of Lolita's who don't treat Lolita as daily fashion. It has changed.

I don't see what the problem is with a new group with a relaxed atmosphere. If you don't like it, ok. I don't get the anger, resentment that cgl often manifests over the most harmless of things.

>>9467815
OMG auto correct
*lolita
*fb

>>9465804
what dress is this?

I swear ELFS is just an ita breeding ground.

>>9466281
Nile Perch

>>9467839
of course it is, the good daily lolitas still post on cof since they don't get buttmad for being posted. being ita is also a mentality and that group was made for those kind of people.

> i was just going for groceries, no need to put any effort in my outfit!!
> still posts in group for asspats

> gets reaction that isn't a compliment
> pls don't hurt my feelings!!! i have a mental illness uwu

> no need to improve, i was just having fun in my coord/just doing my own thing!!!
> suddenly they stop having fun when people don't like it

why is it so hard to a) understand that everyday outfits should still look well coordinated and balanced or b) not fucking post when you didn't put any effort in your outfit and know you can't handle crit?

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Super attention seeking to straight up post otome

>>9467864
This THANK YOU

>>9467914
I was trying to find the Lolita in this, glad someone else was also.

Kek at all of those butthurt itas claiming there's nothing wrong with these coords and criticizing them is what's "killing lolita".
It is not hard to make a decent everyday outfit you could wear to get groceries or go to college while still paying attention to balance, colours that look good together and generally looking like you take care of yourself.
Yes, you're going to get stared at wearing lolita or any other unusual fashion. Don't try to make it as normie as possible to avoid this, because people will still stare AND you'll look like shit on top of that.

If you don't have the guts to wear a toned-down lolita coord out in public, you shouldn't attempt to do it anyway.

>>9468356
Agreed completely.

>>9467587
This is exactly why people wanted a different group. Not OTT doesn't mean it's mediocre or there aren't people who want to see it.

There are a lot of ita coords in the group, but there are a lot of itas on CoF. There are itas fucking everywhere.

>>9466300
I wear wigs with lolita no matter what, just because I'm growing out short bleached hair, which looks godawful with lolita. I agree with the accessories part, but I think wigs are a little different.

>>9467757
that dress doesn't look like it could fit even the tiniest of petticoats... how is this in any way lolita?

>>9467815
the secret FBI lolita unit is on the case

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I had this dress once and it was pretty long on me, she must be tall for it to be that short.

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Idk why she did this bad collage.

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Of course she would post.

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The waist area is a bit weird. Not sure if it is because of fit issues or just because bodyline is meh.

>>9466295
This so much.

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>>9466499>>9467143


These are pretty nice. A good everyday look.

Only other person I've seen pull off everyday looks that work and don't go LOOK AT ME SUPER LOLITA HERE is FannyRosie.

Yall should be trying to see how she's pulling off the subdued look so you can use your pieces more often outside of meets.

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>>9468606

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>>9468611

>>9468606
Classic is easy imo. Gothic is also pretty easy. Show me those subdued sweet coords, they are harder to come by.

>>9468356
Sorry about your autism.

>>9467327
You dumbass. It's a place to do casual coords. Not everyone wants to look like a perfectly preened cosplayer. Go shove your scepter up your ass.

>>9468356
This desu

ITT: How a civil war starts

>>9468611
Nothing about this is lolita at all

>>9468627
toned down sweet is pretty easy if you use solid pieces or simple prints. It gets difficult when you try to ""tone down"" something like milky planet or something.

>>9468740
I didn't say it wasn't, just that it's hard to come by. Not many girls do it that I've seen.

>>9468613
>>9468611
>>9468606

Thb this is the kind of shit I expected to see. But instead we got all these itas..

>>9468550
She really needs a better bra

>>9468528
frilly butt investigations

>>9468550
the fact that her highlight covers half her eye instead of the inner corner really activates my jimmies

>>9468550
needs to be a little lighter-handed with her brows but this is cute af
it's giving me bye bye birdie feels

>>9468887
The crusty white highlight in her brow hairs is whats getting me anon

>>9468899
I think its stray brows in her highlight
either way ew

>>9468899
or the unblended brown line in her eyebrows.. the longer i look the worse it gets

but it's ok to look like a mess, since you don't have to put any effort into everyday outfits. just lookin super cas' desu uwu

wow you guys are being kinda savage
make up oopsies don't ruin a coord. it still looks nice. just the eye and brow techniques can be improved.
>>9468899
>>9468924

>>9466379
>I think we will find a big discussion between people like Fahr who are not wearing casual (or ott since people seem to think it's one or the other) but she is wearing this for everyday
This is what I'm struggling with right now. I don't know if I should post my outfit to this group or CoF.

>>9468606
If Fanny Rosie was new and wasn't already famous y'all would be shitting on her make-up and hair too. Besides which, her stuff is barely lolita.

>>9468957
>y'all would be shitting on her make-up and hair too
bitch you blind?
Also, sorry you got posted and people are making fun of your shitty style

>>9468957
Her stuff is lolita but it was people like you saying it wasnt that made her stop posting. She is one of the best at casual, but you guys dont get to see most of her stuff now.

>>9468959
I haven't been posted. Re: the face and make-up, >>9468606 has hooded eyes, brows aren't neat and under-eye wrinkles. Brows look black in the close-up even though hair is brown and face looks covered in peach fuzz. >>9468611 also has slightly uneven brows and a weird expression in the close-up. >>9468613 is beautiful in the distance shot but, again, weird stare in the close-up and nasolabial folds. These are the sort of things cgl loves to shit on.

>>9468964
You see plenty if you follow her on other platforms, it's only an issue if all you do is track the lolita tags or browse 4chan.

>>9468979
>mostly nitpicks facial features that can't be changed
there's a difference between critiquing highlighter and complaining about hooded eyes and wrinkles...

>>9468606
This is not very casual, it is still a dressy look. How do you guys not get that? It's about aesthetic. If someone wants to look very dressy every day, that's fine, but it isn't daily lolita as we know the style

>>9469032
the coord in question is a very wearable, daily outfit. not casual but classic.

>>9468611 >>9468613
I see these as casual

no thread should be allowed that takes pics from non-public groups. but i have been saying that about the CoF thread for years. if that one is allowed, so must this one be.

>>9469091
>Allowed
You're on the internet. Please. You realize Zuckerberg is taking your data and selling it, and you're concerned about anons sharing public pictures?

>>9469091
Agreed. At least with CoF it's so huge as to be essentially public, but a closed group with fewer than 1000 members can hardly be considered public domain

>>9467206
>Besides that you're exaggerating, if "Lolita has become a costume" it's because brands produce and promote costume-esque fashion
this. lolitas have been complaining about it since the days of oldschool.

additionally, most alternative fashions are treated as a costume by the general public, and even in gothic fashion, there are people who take Black Friday's look to be the standard and criticize anyone who goes more low-key. (i am specifically thinking of the 90s goth youtuber who got "called out" for not being goth enough.)

these are trends with wider social impact than seagulls have.

>>9467770
what op is this? the look itself is really wearable and cute

desu i like to go through threads like these and imagine seeing the person on a bus or at mcdonalds or something

>>9469096
>voicing an on-topic opinion is invalid for off-topic reasons

>>9469097
also the focus on FB is just weird. Instagram and Twitter have participation from Japanese lolitas and models, while the FB groups are mostly Anglosphere lolitas. i am unsure why the Facebook groups matter so much.

>inb4 "make a thread for those platforms then"
i did, but it did not catch interest.

>>9469120
I think it's because Facebook makes it easiest to download pictures. I don't know about Twitter, but all you can get off IG are screen caps

>>9469120
>Missed the point
All photos are public whether you like it or not.

>>9467155
All of this, TY.

>>9468924
Fuck Instagram makeup.

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>>9467155
>You're giving concrit to people who are wearing lolita while running errands

>concrit
>Constructive criticism
>CONSTRUCTIVE

Sorry suggestions hurt your feefees. Methinks the problem here is that a lot of y'all can't differentiate between constructive criticism (regardless of polite or impolite delivery) and actual, unjustified bashing. Lurk more. Stay a while. Grow a thicker skin.

>>9469172
Is it really constructive criticism if you won't say it to them directly? Like, how are they supposed to improve from comments on an anonymous forum that may or may not discuss them? If you want to help them then leave a comment on FB where they'll see it. I'm tired of cgl acting like it's a public service. Just admit you want to comment on things anonymously because you're too afraid to say it with your identity attached

>>9469181
agreed.
If cgl cares so much about about improving other's coordinates why don't we see more of those types of comments on people's posts?
In any case, I've been on cgl for ten years. There is a lot of nasty hurtful comments about peoples appearances that obviously aren't about helping people, they're about anonymously tearing people down

>>9469172
I'm sorry, but I don't see whats wrong with giving constructive criticism in a polite way. The way you talk just comes off as 2edgy4u

>>9469181
Because you'll get banned or fee fees will be hurt if you post them on cof? And with all the rampant SJW shit with people calling each other out, harmless concrit is just too risky to have your name attached to it.

Thats why I love it when my stuff gets posted in the cgl threads because I've gotten really good feedback here then all the usual "omg so pretty xoxox" shit on cof. Sure I've gotten salty comments too but who cares? The anon part is what really lets people speak their minds.

>>9469202
Sorry you get called out for being an abrasive asshole, anon. It's a good thing cgl provides a safe space for people like you

>>9469183
Frankly, because I don't feel like typing up a compliment sandwich. I like that I can be as dry as I want on here without being labeled a bully. If you didn't do anything good, I'm not going to sugarcoat. I'm not a person to criticize things like body or face but some coords need to be done over from scratch.

>>9469210
Call out culture is whats killing everything. Even if you post gentle conrit, people get all pissy and throw a big fit over it. Continue to whine all you want, outfits from both groups will be posted to cgl to be properly judged.

>>9469211
This, it's so fucking annoying to have to polity comment concrit on cof, and even then people still take things too personally for suggesting a simple change like "Maybe x shoes would work better" or whatever.

>>9469217
Wahhhh being nice is hard and there are bullies on the internet. Do you not see how hypocritical that sounds coming from a place that makes fun of people for complaining about being posted here? I have no problem with cgl saying it wants to post things for anon's selfish consumption. I'm just sick of anons acting like they're somehow helpful and doing it for anyone's good other than themselves. I doubt anyone posted in this thread is appreciative of the "concrit" if they even see it. If people wanted anonymous concrit they would post to a coord help thread here. I don't know why anons get so butthurt by the idea that maybe their opinions aren't that important and they don't need to have a thread for every group on Facebook where people post lolita coords.

>>9469222
Maybe they mean on the actual post and not on this thread, anon?

I was hoping we'd see more toned down coords but these are mostly really bad. This is not a even a 'meh' thread. Most of these are downright disasters.

>>9466499 and >>9466494 are really cute. The rest - not so much.

>>9469224
Obviously they're complaining about how scary it is to post concrit on CoF, not here. I'm just saying that their cowardice doesn't warrant a need for cgl to weigh in on every coord on FB. They need to stop pretending that they give "concrit" for the public good and just admit that they want to say whatever they want regardless of whether it's constructive

>>9469228

Nobody is pretending to be for the public good except you anon.

>>9469012
Don't you dare argue that she can get surgery to 'fix' that

>>9468356
THIS

>>9469247
I wasn't going to? I was pointing out that it's kind of bullshit to compare commenting on makeup to commenting on someone's literal face.

So we have two options here:

1. Nitpick coordinates down to the very last detail until everyone is dressed to your specific tastes and criteria, and everyone looks like they just stepped out of a GLB shoot. Conlitas run wild. Nothing but Kate-style photoshoots everywhere. Brands continue to release OTT dresses. RIP Lolita.

or

2. Accept that Lolita is a street fashion, and therefore is meant to be wearable and imperfect. While you can give constructive criticism to someone who is missing the mark, you can realize that most people don't care if you would prefer they wore socks instead of tights, or a different kind of wig. The existence of few itas or crappy coordinates in a less than popular Facebook group will not destroy the fashion as we know it. Daily_Lolita survived through a lot more risky and casual coordinates than these.

>>9469292
I agree with you. You're about to get yelled at, but I agree with you.

>>9469292
Sameanoning here, but all of you please unclench. The level of salt in this thread is unreal. Maybe instead of complaining that you can't give constructive criticism, realize that the world isn't going to fucking end because you can't criticize coordinates to your liking. Just scroll past, pay attention to coordinates that you like and move on with your life.

>>9469296
Sameanoning AGAIN, but I've also never seen anyone jumped on for giving criticism besides obvious oversensitive itas, and we all know by know that itas grow out of that phase. Nothing is stopping you from giving the criticism you want. A large majority of the community can accept criticism, stop focusing on the three or four snowflakes that can't and act like they're limiting your right to tell someone that you don't like their blouse.

>>9469222
I'm glad I was posted. Stop speaking for all of us and grow a pair.

>>9469292
> While you can give constructive criticism to someone who is missing the mark, you can realize that most people don't care if you would prefer they wore socks instead of tights, or a different kind of wig.

but anon... a lot of people actually do care. some care so much that their feelings get hurt when they get concrit. they actually cared enough to make this group, so they can "be safe" from it. that's the funny thing here. i don't think anyone here hates everyday lolita and wants everyone to dress according to their taste. it's just entertaining to provoke those kind of people who get offended by crit, yet still post their coords for asspats.

>>9469396
Have you read the groups descrption? What are you even talking about? "They" didn't make anything to be safe from anything. and who is this "they" you're talking about? You're creating a fictional scenario in your mind to justify your anger.

>>9469396
And also, FYI, the group's description says conceit is welcome unless the poster specifically asked for none.

Mountains out of molehills I swear. What is the big deal?

>>9466730
I really like this

>>9469419
*concrit

>>9469396
No one made the group to be free from criticism! They wanted a place to post coordinates that weren't polished enough for CoF, coordinates they didn't get good photos for, or something they just threw on quick before heading out. The type of community that Daily_Lolita used to be.

I don't understand why people are getting upset about gulls giving concrit. I mean, if you only wanted to show your daily coord off for asspats, don't post it to a fucking group and just share it on your facebook profile so only your friends can see.

>>9469503
It's hardly like much has changed, we used to give concrit in the livejournal days. If you put yourself in the eyes of the public, people will give you criticism.

>>9466275
Taking shots in messy rooms is never okay

>>9469511
No one is upset about concrit in general, we're saying that if someone doesn't want concrit, or didn't ask for it, or if your "concrit" boils down to personal taste, it won't be the end of the world if you keep it to yourself.

I promise that you aren't that good of a lolita that everyone needs to hear your wisdom. You aren't that important.

>>9469511
No one is getting upset about concrit, that's the thing. Cgl anons are creating this narrative, that's the problem. Concrit is welcome on the group. It's just a relaxed group to post daily snapshots.

>>9466300
I almost always wear wigs, because I've got crazy colored hair that doesn't match with my wardrobe at all. Still like to wear casual lolita stuff though.
>>9468550
I hate this. I don't think I'm a fan of the lemon yellow and lavender combination. I also kind of think that shade of yellow might be terrible for her skin tone.

>>9468948
Same. I wear this sort of stuff as "daily" wear. So can I post to ELFS? It's not like what she is wearing is OTT. It's just normal sweet.

>>9469570
The obvious answer is that ELFS is useless and creates this uneeded divide. It did the opposite it wanted to do.

This group is a fucking train wreck

>>9469643
This is so fucking cute! Anyone know where her cardigan is from?

>>9469012
Which happens to other girls on here all the time. efame example is Lor but there are frequently comments in CoF threads complaining that a coord is ruined by a girl's "unfortunate face".

>>9469120
probably because you can browse IG tags without actually having an account, and it's a pain in the ass to download photos (Firefox, right-click, view page info, go to media tab, scroll down to pic you want, click on it, save, repeat)

>>9468979
>making fun of hooded eyes or nasolabial folds
nigga this is /cgl/ not lolcow

>>9469757
Give a search on the archives, people like Lor get shat on all the time for having a big nose or prominent nasolabial folds.

>>9469792
And it was stupid and doesn't need to happen anymore. Go to lolcow if you need to nitpick peoples facial features.

>>9467914
I don't even care because I'm so glad she's posting outfits again

Would anyone be willing to post a dump? I would, but I don't have fb.

>>9475656

Not much to dump, group is pretty quiet

>>9475690
yeah I can't believe people stopped posting

Well you gulls outed the group to cgl the fuck did you expect?

>>9475690
>>9475720
>>9475723
Not to gloat, but "I told you so"

>>9475690
You don't fucking say.

I think every alternative group dies within a couple weeks regardless of being posted to cgl. See COF Uncensored which was supposed to be the next big thing.

>>9475734
well its like, who would post to that?
its literally
COF: Talk Shit about My Outfit Please.

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Is this a troll??

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>>9475955
holy shit I opened the thumbnail and felt like I was being attacked

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>>9475955
I just saw this and thought the same thing. So cringey. Is she undressed in the bottom right??? WTF?

>>9476001
Nah she's wearing a cami.

>>9475955
>>9475964
Uh... What the fuck? Also can't tell you if you need a longer petti, since there's no freaking full shot of the coord? How are people so bad at this, I actually literally do not understand.

>>9476991
>cleaning day

less shitty replica coord shots more cleaning

>>9475955
How is she that bad at selfies? How did she think "Yes this frame of my under chin with a tiny bit of a necklace is perfect to show my coord!"

>>9475955
what's with the close up to her disgusting, acne filled chin?

>>9466379
> Jackie Kennedy with a petti

Love it

>>9467626

Idk if anon is a crossposter, but people on /ck/ ironically use "walla". I don't recall the origins and my google-fu is dead, but it wouldn't surprise me if it came from some terribad youtube cooking channel or have to do with people sharing disgusting meals they're serving to their SOs.

/sage for off topic

>>9476991
>>9476992

I may be a little overzealous about pics I post online but when I see shit in frame that distracts from the thing I am showing I at least shove it out of the way just for the pic.
It would have taken all of 30 secs.

Clean your mirror. (20 secs)
Kick stuff out of the way (30 secs)
Clean off a bathroom counter (2 minutes)
Close the effin door to a closet or distracting stuff (2 secs)


Worth it for posting online cause when you post...it's out there forever.

It isn't that no one wants conceit. It is that some are exhausted from being nitpicked to death. They've taken the advice and keep their pica of wearable coords, more casual than ott, limited to their friends feed. Only the event coords end up being shared beside it is coords given more thought to the little details, a wider budget to buy specific items, and time to sort through all the options. Why? Because there is a difference between nitpick snd constructive criticism. Some are just tired.

>>9466299
Or better yet find a long underskirt that looks good with tall boots. Jfc I really wish Hijab wearers would stay out of this fashion unless they are going to do it right

>>9466493
Those poor neck genetics.

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>>9477907

>>9477895
Did she have sauce on this blouse?

Also, she'd be 10x cuter with a fringe.

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>>9477910

/end dump

>>9477912

I think she said Bodyline

>>9477910
I really like this. Looks comfy and she seems to be having fun. The bag is really bright.

this group is such trash

>>9477913
This coord makes me salty because I've been looking for the Wonder Cookie headband in black for 3-4 years and she is wearing it without Wonder Cookie.

I hope she at least has Wonder Cookie.

>>9478116
>you can't own part of a set unless you have the whole set!

what kind of stupid ideology

>>9477913
She needs to fix her eyebrows

>>9467427
Key word, coord. As in planned out coordinate. Not something you throw together quickly to run errands because you need to wear clothing

>>9477878
I've often thought that if I got weak chin genetics that I'd be pissed enough to fix it with plastic surgery. I've always felt bad for people with them. What a sucky thing to inherit and there is nothing you can do about it until you save up the money for a jaw implant.

>>9466300
but we have casual lolita threads

>>9477899

Did it right. Cute, not overdone

>>9478637
What the fuck. Even if still took you 5 mins, you're still coordinating an outfit together. No one hopefully just drives into their closet and walks out like that and dares to call it lolita.

>>9469217
>Even if you post gentle conrit, people get all pissy and throw a big fit over it
Since I started lolita (3 years ago) I've seen this happen twice

>>9477893
>>9477907
Her coords aren't bad but she desperately needs new glasses. Those are awful.

>>9466299
they can't just wear think tights... It's not about opacity as much as it is about shape. Tights are form fitting, and they are not allowed to wear form fitting clothing.

>>9477889
weird question, but does anyone know the source of the fairy art in the background? it's really pretty.

>>9479176
She needs them to see... new glasses frames are like $100+... it's a casual coord... holy shit this thread is ridiculous

>>9479230
Bruh she owns enough brand... my last pair of glasses cost like 60 bucks and I'm pretty sure this girl owns honey cake. She can afford it

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>>9479230
>new glasses frames are like $100+

You can buy fake glasses from Claire's, Icing, or HotTopic, or pretty much anywhere for $12 then popout the fake lenses and have the lens makers design the lenses for those frames.

Hell, I have a pair of fake ones from Claire's that look the same as hers. There is no need to spend even $30 on frames.

>>9479230
I have a friend who buys frames for dirt cheap online in different colors to match her wardrobe, if you're buying burando might as well drop a bit more for matching frames.

>>9466299
If your religion doesn't let you wear lolita, either don't wear lolita or leave the religion. Most hijab lolitas look like they're trying to follow sharia law more than lolita style. The only time I've seen it done right was with the one girl from Sugar Coated with the wig-as-hijab idea. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

>>9480048
>>9480039
>>9479230
It is a casual outfit for running errands. And you want her to invest in frames and lenses.
You are everything wrong with this thread.

>>9479176
>>9480039
>>9480048

Wrong thread. CoF thread is over there >>9476190


Also please, it's so obvious none of you wear glasses. Get a perfectly matching CHEAP pair of COSTUME frames? Makes sense for a single OTT cosplay/coord that you only wear one time for a few hours. If you're actually going to live with glasses you're going to want one quality pair that suits your face, fits you perfectly, and the lenses are going to have all the trimmings on it, not el cheapo basic bitch lens that do nothing except correct your vision.

>>9480312
>>9480276
Seconding you two. I wear glasses and though I have a few frames, there's no way in hell I would "invest" in getting new lenses cut for cheap-ass Claire's frames just so I can match a few coords. It's cool that some people want to go that extra mile, but it IS an extra mile.

>>9480127
It's like an Amish person joining a motorcycle gang with a rusty old bicycle because motorcycles are against his religion. He won't keep up, he'll look ridiculous, he'll ignore any tips for improvement because they don't fit into his arbitrary set of rules and regardless of how hard he holds onto that rule set, other people from his religion are still going to think he's in the wrong for wanting to be part of that club at all. It's a disservice to both sides.

>>9480039
Because glass prescription lens making for cheap plastic glasses is going to happen. And you act like getting custom shaped prescription lenses for glasses is easy.

>>9465819
I think she should get some socks.

>>9477893
imo i hate when people do pigtails for lolita
especially on people with her face shape, it just generally looks stupid
apart from the that and the glasses though, she's alright
albeit she looks a bit like anita sarkeesian

>>9480312
not the anon you replied to, but to be fair though, they don't match
it's perfectly fine if she doesn't want to buy new ones, I can totally understand that. But you can't say that they go with any of the outfits she posts

>>9480454
They're basic black frames anon, you can just ignore them. What next, are you going to tell a girl with some crutches that she should paint them to match the coord?

>>9466299
>I must look modest for allah
>I still want to wear this street fashion designed and worn by infidels
>hmmm
No, seriously, mixing hijab code and lolita is like mixing pickles with cookies. Go lolita or go home.

>>9479215
your best bet is to ask her in the fb post

>>9480048

The frames aren't the issue. The lenses are. I don't know about the girl in the pic but my lenses cost like $300 due to special vision issues.

>>9480465
They're fugly black frames. Crutches don't come in cute alternatives, frames do. She made a bad choice and now she's stuck with it, boohoo.

>>9480549
yeah, if your lenses are cheap you can buy a bunch of cheap frames too, no problem. my lenses are 250€ in the basic bitch version and they can go up to 700. my friend's lenses start at 800 but she has a real speshul snowflake vision problem while i just have myopia and astigmatism.

why even put 500€ worth of lenses in a cheap frame that's gonna break anyway (and possibly damage the lenses while they break) desu

the anons pointing out that you can just buy a bunch of frames probably only need cheaper lenses or don't wear any glasses at all.

why is this discussion even still a thing in lolita? it's been explained so many times.

>>9480454

Which is why I said those people nitpicking glasses are in the wrong thread. By all means nitpick it in the COF thread since it's meant to be more formal.

ELFS thread is meant for everyday wear. And everyday wear means some girls are going to have glasses or shoes or are maybe carrying some potaties in grocery bags that don't 100% match their coord, since they're out and about running errands. Not dressing up in full coords.

If this bothers you so much, close this thread and go to the COF thread, where you can nitpick, whine and complain about all the unmatching glasses to your heart's content.

>>9480578
>>9480549
Thank you for reiterating this point. I'm so tired of explaining this.

>>9480465
anon, just because they're basic frames, doesn't mean they're not ugly
they are still part of the outfit
I'm not telling all the lolitas with glasses to go out and buy 50 different pairs so they match their co-ords, I'm just saying they're ugly

>>9477889
this makes me want to get a little jacket like that. I was wondering how i would make it alive to a picnic outside without dying if I had to wear a blouse.

>>9477893
am i the only one who is annoyed that she mirrors every single picture she posts????

>>9480039
jesus fuck do not do this. frames made for actual prescription glasses are high quality. I've worked in an optometry office for years and people will try to do this and come back and get mad at us that their 6 dollar frames couldn't handle their 8.25 Rx.