Manly Monday: Stop being a basic bitch edition

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>>9447509
this is Rock style

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>>9447510
a Sporty Rock look

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>>9447513
a British-themed rock look

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>>9447514
Visual host style

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>>9447518
visual style

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>>9447519
a visual gothic look

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>>9447521
rock style

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>>9447525
something different: a sweet masculine chocolate look using Q-Pot accessories

some of these will be from regular KERA now, such as this one

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>>9447530
another

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>>9447532
left: mix of mode and gothic styles

right: mix of sporty and gothic styles

I vaguely remember seeing something on tv that I think was fashion related but I'm not sure because I don't speak moon, it was an idol from JE doing the nails of another guy, does anyone know what show it was? That JE guy dressed fun, maybe I can find it with english subtitles. It was quite short btw.

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>>9447536
a pop look based on Mars Attacks

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>>9447540
>an idol from JE
what does JE stand for in this case?

>>9447544
50s-inspired Rock coord

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>>9447509
>literally a fedora and cane
I'm posting this on /fa/ we gonna have a giggle m8.

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>>9447551
pop coords

>>9447553
k

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>>9447554
mix of mode and rock

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>>9447556
(top row) demonstration of pop, gothic and rock styles with similar silhouettes

>>9447551
johnny's entertainment

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one of the makeup things to watch for when going for a masculine look is where to contour and highlight. however, i think unless you have a heavy gothic or gyaru-o sort of look, this may not be something to pay much attention to.

any requests for an inspo dump? some common styles that do not have their own threads include:

>pop
>punk
>rock
>mode
>host
>gothic

>>9447772
gothic or mode :)

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>>9447784
why not both? i am about to go out so a brief dump of both mixed together seems simple & quick

there is overlap between gothic x mode and things like ouji; in fact, some Atelier Boz ads call their items "mode gothic"

GOTHIC MODE style
keywords: monotone, cool, black, sharp
definitive brand: used to be Black Peace Now

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>>9447868

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>>9447869
the katakana in that pic says "gothic mode style," fyi

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>>9447874
"formal" gothic mode can be ouji, and vice-versa; ouji can be gothic&mode

labels are fluid

>>9447868
That's a cool eyeshadow tutorial but I'm not sold on the lip, if I wanted to make mine look blotchy and dead I'd probably use concealer to take out their natural pinkness first.

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>>9447875
more to come later

>>9447879
solid idea imo

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>>9447881
one more thing: the definitive gothic&mode brand may now be Naoto Seven, which seems popular (upper left corner) but most of my resources end around early 2015 when it was being marketed in KERA as gothic punk and not mode.

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regular mode is pretty /fa/-tier, since it is basically the Japanese street version of "mod"

here are some less normcore examples using brands like Mononania and Mint Neko

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>>9448241

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>>9448243

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>>9448256

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>>9447889
more gothic&mode

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>>9448343

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>>9448345
another Boz ad emphasizing the potential for gothic mode

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>>9448346
oh and military. military is another style often mixed with punk, goth, and rock

this snap is more mode than gothic, which seems common for street snaps vs magazine spreads

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>>9448348
mode x rock

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>>9448350
"super cool boy" makeup, left is mode and right is ouji

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>>9448353
speaking of makeup, here is Hakuei for BPN with make similar to >>9447868

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>>9448356
Gadget Grow is a quality brand commonly used for gothic, mode, and visual styles

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>>9448258

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old school Vivienne Westwood dude with RHS

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i do not think Milk Boy, the men's line from "soft lolita"/"girly"/whatever brand Milk, has a particular "kei" associated with it. common keywords it is associated with are cute, kawaii, and street. so maybe we can call it "men's street cute"

here is a selection of pages from a 2013 Milk Boy photoseries from Spoon.

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>>9448555
the captions kill me

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>>9448559

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>>9448560
this one is just a random promo pic. their stuff looks comfy as heck, and their marketing is much softer than any other men's street fashion brand i have seen.

Milkboy resale value holds up, too. items are often in the upper price ranges of what Closet Child offers.

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>>9448563
which is not to say they cannot be edgy

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>>9448564
Milkboy goes well with the "genderless danshi" aesthetic that was making headlines recently.

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>>9448358
similar to gothic mode is Neo-Gothic, which i have usually seen used by Hakuei for BPN

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>>9449065

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>>9449069

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>>9449071

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>>9449075

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>>9449077
this says "gothic prince" but it may refer to the status of the model rather than to ouji kei (the perils of labels that are also common words)

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Visual Host Kei seems sleazy and goofy at the same time. How is this a money-making look?

Trash dump incoming.

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>>9450459
some looks for when you are on and off the clock

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>>9450461

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>>9450462

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>>9450464

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>>9450466

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>>9450469
Visual Host Kei is what happens when Gyaru and Visual Kei have a prom night baby and split up, shuttling the confused child back and forth between equally flamboyant but incompatible parents.

>>9449065
I need that tie

>>9451899
not as much as it needs you

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sharing this because lol Clark Kent

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>>9453342

I love this thread. Thank you OP

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>>9453348
you are welcome

as it is sakura matsuri season, here is some traditional wear with inexplicable Spanish

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>>9453958

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Rock kei is pretty basic, and good for casual wear. You can combine it with visual, punk, pop, or goth for an edgier look, but for now, here are some basic rock kei looks.

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>>9455333
compared to western fashion, Harajuku rock style has a more careful or polished hair and face look.

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>>9455334
rock up top, cute pajama time below

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>>9455337
casual and formal boys' rock

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>>9455344
this style is basic enough for beginners to get into before making the leap into something more dramatic, like visual kei or even ouji. it is easy to emulate with western brands, but due to uncreative designs and boxy cuts common to western menswear, if you can fit into and afford brands like Midas or Gadget Grow go for those.

otherwise, Harajuku rock style is easily thriftable and you can focus on cultivating a unique hair style instead of worrying about burando dollars.

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retro Americana pops up occasionally as a theme, if you want to combine some ironic patrioism with your weeb fashio

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>>9457483
*fashion

retro style is fun to play with, a peppier take on history than the more common classical styles. this might be retro pop rock style, a mix of influences.

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Manly Monday more like Mana Monday amirite?

here are some recent (<1 year old) pics of Mana-sama taken from the official moi dix mois twitter

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>>9457910
that one was from late 2016, these are from the last few weeks. do new Manas count as rare?

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>>9457912

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>>9457915
mixing Moitie with casual t-shirts is never a bad idea

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heavier goth

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>>9458698

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>>9458699

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>>9458702
a rougher and less approachable look separates purer goth from visual or ouji, though overlap usually occurs.

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>>9458725
well, not too rough, or you get into gothic punk territory

labels are fluid

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>>9458737

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>>9458740
the above page and this were advertising gothic brands for men.

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>>9458741

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>>9458743
goths at the head of a Harajuku fashion walk

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>>9458746

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>>9458814

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gothic elements with cute motifs/colors, general street style silhoutte, etc.

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>>9459722

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>>9459731
a kind of pastel punk aesthetic

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>>9459736
pop-rock/pop-punk type coords also use the contrast of dark and sweet

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>>9459747

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a common silhouette for cute masculine coords is a full head of hair, a boxy top, and loose short pants. sarouel pants are also common. even in darker genres, this silhouette has a soft or cute effect.

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>>9461335
this silhoutte can also mute feminine curves. compare the girl coord on left to the boys rock style on right.

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>>9461344
a long sleeve, fitted cutsew under the loose boxy short-sleeved top can emphasize the bagginess of the overshirt to make the wearer seem smaller and cuter.

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>>9461348
i hate sarouel pants but maybe they can work for you.

>>9461350
here you can see the difference between a "kakkoi" look and a "kawaii" look. note the differences in hair, clothing material, and makeup.

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>>9461353
dropped file

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>>9461356

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>>9461364
Piko and Ryutaro are masters of this look. Even with his L from Death Note-style darkness, Ryutaro maintains an aura of kawaii, bloodied hand and all

(it is likely that L's design was influenced by Ryutaro, don't you think?)

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some casual vkei style

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>>9463617
wrong photo. that is more goth/punk and uncasual.

this was the intended image

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>>9463618

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>>9463622

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>>9463626
here you see the effect of the boxy-top&shaggy-hair kawaii look versus the more streamlined kakkoii look

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>>9463630

>>9453958
because the kimono is white and that is for the dead " buena vista el cielo"

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you will NEVER be manly until you master the art of VISUAL HOST MAKEUP

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with soft makeup and hair, many street fashion men are moving toward a "genderless" aesthetic. this is not a set style, or an issue of gender identity. it is an attitude that is expressed via fashion.

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>>9469269
although it made fashion headlines recently, you can see evidence of its beginnings in street snaps from at least 2013. the use of gentle, pretty makeup contrasts with most other male models in this thread, for example, even those with heavy makeup.

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>>9469276
since most examples you can find online of genderless danshi are heavily filtered, take a look at recent tokyofashion.com snaps. you will see a lot of guys with this kind of look, usually wearing unisex clothes of some kind.

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>>9469286
they follow the same makeup and beauty trends women do (thus the genderless emphasis) so you can use normal hair and makeup tutorials other seagulls use. those under-eye bags are an example of a trending look.

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>>9469288
also pastel fashion is not definitive of it, dark clothes are fine.

these tokyofashion snaps were all from the last couple weeks so they should reflect the current state

As a failed ouji (too poor) this thread is a huge inspiration to me. I'd ask for taobao tags but that'd probably would be ng here. I wish we'd have these threads more often.

>>9471244
i am not sure about what taobao tags you might use, but i can look for coords that could be imitated with likely thriftable clothes

there is a dearth of information regarding men's fashion in a general sense so i am glad you find this thread inspiring!

>>9471855
different anon but i would greatly appreciate it

This was a cool thread, thanks for all the dumps! Was already considering trying to be a brolita, seems this gives a bit of both worlds.

>>9471855
Thanks in advance! Taobao is the just right price range for me. I'm a tall girl if that changes anything.

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all right so, here are some outfits that i think could be replicated with the sort of things you find in thrift stores. i will focus first on cool things you can do with a graphic tee. mostly these are punk/rock style.

graphic tees are usually cheap and you can often find weird or ironic shit among them. band tees are also great.

not only are graphic tees cheap, they are colorful. color coordination is a major part of jfash and a graphic tee gives you a lot more to work with--in theme as well as color! they are prints for poorgulls.

woven tees will help maintain a boxy shape. knit tees will either cling more to your body, for a fitted look ("athletic fit" they are sometimes called), or they will hang off your shoulders and give a drapey look (especially if you go up a couple sizes). women's tees are almost always fitted in some way, or have a flared waist that would emphasize hips, while boys and mens usually hang straight even when fitted. pick whatever suits your needs.

Akira gets a lot of this simple 3-color tee. it is oversized too, which gives space between the collar and her choker. red shoes, a snapback with a black white and red pattern, and black and white patterned accessories bring the colors through the rest of the coord

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>>9475859
on the left Oni has a pseudo-ouji look. it looks like the tee is a false layered-look one, but layering a shorter-sleeved (or just shorter, or wider in the neck) graphic tee over a solid tee in one of the graphic one's secondary colors helps balance out a coord that uses that secondary color a lot (in this case, black). you can usually find suspenders cheaply.

also, if you find a good pair of knee-length shorts that are not too wide at the hem, you can do a LOT of pseudo-ouji looks. you could even shorten a pair of slim(mish) pants or jeans if you cannot find shorts of the right length that are more narrow at the hem. if you can't sew a straight line, shortening pants and folding up the "hem" can hide that.

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>>9475874
another mostly-black coord on the left. shoelaces are easy to find in many colors, so you can swap them out to coordinate with your accessories or the tee.

on the far right is an unworn combo of a graphic tee and a brightly colored pair of pants that matches one of the tee's secondary colors. for a pop-kei look, if you can find bright colored pants in a color you like, you can look for tops that have that color as an accent color and make a mini-wardrobe around it.

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>>9475892
a blazer over a tee is good for a casual visual/rock look.

for styles like visual or gothic, hair and makeup can be more important than the clothes. with hair and face like Mia's in this pic, just about any outfit would have a visual kei feel. the jewelry helps also. nothing he is wearing is particularly "jfash," the way pumpkin pants or long gilets or asymmetric jackets might be. clothes that fit well + good hair >>>> brand with a wig.

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>>9475906
on the right, a super simple look with straightened hair and visual makeup illustrates how offbrand can still make a decent visual coord. here, the tee is fitted, the pants are fitted, the shoes are narrow; a silhouette like this looks great even when the clothes are simple. the jewelry is similar to Mia's, with a thin chain necklace and chunky rings.

you will probably look emo in this kind of look so beware of that

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>>9475927
here there are two coords. one on right works the colors of the graphic tee into the windbreaker, shoes, and glasses. since those are so bright, black shorts (the main color of the tee) helps keep the coordination balanced. this is a good pop/oshare kind of coord ("sporty" is the adjective used for it though).

on the left, there are those rolled-up hems i mentioned earlier. this is "british kids style"; i have not been into the nanchatte/prep threads recently, but faux school uniforms are popular across lots of different fashion styles. this seems general preppy, but you can also use the blazer+breeches formula for other school styles: clashing punk patterns, spookycute pop-goth motifs, etc. for a casual school look, a graphic tee under an open button-down would give you lots more color coordination options than just a buttoned-up look like this one.

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>>9475941
also since hair is vital for visual coords especially, here is a tutorial i have not seen posted before. look how flat Oni's hair is before the styling

the quality of the pic is not great, but youtube is a better place to look for hair tutorials imo. you want to learn to give volume and depth mostly; a lot of jfash hair for unisex or masculine looks has this pieced, layered, volumous look.

for next thriftable tips dump, would anons prefer

>DIYables
>pseudo-ouji
>dark fashion
>cute fashion

?

>>9476550
how about casual oug?

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>>9477235
i would save that for a different thread, like /ouG/ or even a thread that is a dedicated image dump for casual ouji inspo (the way casual lolita threads happen). there is a lot of material there, and we are 25 pics away from image cap.

however, the sort of thriftable pseudo-ouji stuff could be considered a type of casual ouji. back in the day it was what a lot of people wore when brand was scarce in the West. you can imitate the ouji feeling, though the cuts will not be right and may be considered nouji if you tag it as ouji. but the outfits can still look good and you do not brand to accomplish the look.

one thing to think of is, how much do i look like an anime character? pic related could have stepped out of a CLAMP manga. imagining the coord as something from anime or japanese games can help keep from crossing into /fa/ territory.

in pic related, the haircut, color coordination, and ribbon bowtie lend a pseudo-ouji look to a thriftable outfit.

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>>9479736
an oldschool example. you may not find halfpants easily but you can always shorten regular sized pants.

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>>9479753
adding a jabot to a regular dress shirt, and layering shorts over leggings or other legwear, also imitates ouji. i would avoid regular ties, but ones with interesting patterns or weird shapes can work.

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>>9479760
you can also do "ouji a la mode," using offbrand with cheaper brand items such as socks or a useful brand item like a bag, as in this pic. some might call it ouji and some might not, it's borderline and would depend on the crowd.

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>>9479777
shorts, dress shirt, blazer, hat, clean face, groomed hair, nice shoes, some type of necktie = close enough to ouji that many will not care

the trouble is when you subtract too many elements, it stops resembling jfash and enters the realm of dandy or teddyboy. usually, a Harajuku style haircut and color balance throughout the coord will distinguish the outfit from western versions. pic related doesn't fit the criteria for jfash in my opinion, but wouldn't be kicked out of most meetups.

Jabberwocky is live: https://jabberwocky.tokyo/01-may/

it looks like an h. Naoto lookbook so far, and only has the h. Naoto x Yoh collab items. (check back for updates.) the style is in that neo-gothic/mode flavor profiled upthread

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>>9447509
Thank you for this awesome thread. I'm exclusively into mens j-fashion and I don't often see much discussion of it aside from ouji and aristo. My main areas of interest are visual, host, and gyaruo style, so I don't often feel a sense of community like how ouji and aristo really "belong" as part of lolita.

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>>9480126
I'm gonna drop some photos that influence my style

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>>9480139
This is maybe a bit outdated, but I love a leather jacket with fur collar. Mens Egg December 2009.

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>>9480141
Another page from the same magazine

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>>9480147
The hairstyle tutorial section from Mens Knuckle December 2009 is old, but helpful. I don't think hairstyles have changed dramatically enough for this to be irrelevant.

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>>9480126
yo thanks for the dump! it seems like most men's altfash magazines in Japan are for host/gyaruo, so it sucks it has not caught on more globally. maybe the big bleached hair and spraytans throw people off.

it is a style that does not need a specific brand, though, so should be easier to shop for. the hair is intimidating desu

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instagram couple in his and hers rock & punk coords

username @Mia.lams

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>>9481273
The hairstyling isn't that bad with some practice, but yeah I agree it's WAAAAAY easier to do gyaruo/host offbrand compared to other j-fashions. Aside from the aesthetic, the practicality of shopping for it is a really big reason why I've been able to get so into it.

TIP!

in addition to m-closetchild.jp, maidenclothing.net is a fairly-priced second hand alternative fashion shop that carries masculine street fashion brands and has an established method for selling overseas. items from brands like Midas or Mint Neko tend to run cheaper there than the lolita items they carry. they also carry the higher priced items from jewelry brands like Deal Design or Justin Davis (higher relative to other street fashion jewelry, not precious metals & luxury watches, etc.).

if you like Japanese street/Harajuku brands, keep maidenclothing bookmarked

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suggested items for a starter masculine kawaii jfash coord:

>well-fitting denim or similarly sturdy pants in a neutral color
>gaucho pants (half-pants with wider legs, key for the oversized/square silhouette) or cargo shorts in a color of your choice
>colorful, patterned socks
>solid t shirts, at least two, in a color that complements the socks (can tie your coord together and give it balance even if the rest of the look is generic)
>a graphic tee (bonus if the graphic has the color of one of your pants in it)
>a button-down shirt one size up from what you usually wear (for the boyish square), within the color scheme/motif you are establishing (take cues from how sweet lolitas build their wardrobes in terms of color and theme)
>a sweatshirt or parka in a key color or unique pattern
>shoelaces within the same color scheme (your shoes will come with a neutral color set, so pick 1 or 2 more fun ones; maybe one in a key color and one with a pattern or motif you like)

when beginning, it is tempting to grab everything you can afford that looks cool. but what can happen then is you have cool things that do not match, or a lot of one item and none of another. for every "cool" or unique item you acquire, you should have more than one way of wearing it. organizing around a unified color scheme or a kind of motif can help.

keep an eye out for accessories like watches, phone cases, rings, bags, and hats that fit your chosen scheme to work into your wardrobe over time.

and learn to make your hair do weird shit

>>9486182
Ooooh wow the prices are good. The only thing I don't like in comparison to Closet Child is that the small amount of mens items are mixed in with the tons of lolita.

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>>9493613
yeah, it takes hunting to find things but i've gotten some good deals.

found a cool Japanese instagrammer who helpfully labels his coords in English (including "rude style" which i do not understand yet). coord shots are usually full body with nice composition and clarity. he is on the slightly /fa/ side of street fashion but i am hoping to learn some things. check @kodudo0624

another is @mutayasuhide who seems to be a hairdresser and i dig pic related, how the pink around his shoulders is repeated in the shoes

Can someone dump some (old school) yankee inspo?

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Asking here for help because I don't want to shit up the board with a new thread

Is there a thread I can go to for more masculine cosplays? I've been wanting to get into the scene for a while but don't know where to start. I've read through some of the stuff in the sticky, but it's missing some stuff I have questions for

>>9493934
if there isn't a cosplay help thread, you can start one, and ask your questions there. or you could make a QTDDTOT thread and ask there.

>>9493875
not my area of expertise, but how old is oldschool for yankee?

>>9494199
I thought about the 80s, it's older I think, but when today's gangs dress up in the clothes of former members it's usually from the 80s

>>9493820
'Rude style' is in reference to the Jamaican rude boy subculture. It was a thing in the UK during the late 70's and thus has a subset of fans in Japan much like punk and skinhead culture. The most contemporary Japanese brand I can think of off the top of my head that borrows from the rude boy subculture is Wacko Maria

>>9497310
thanks for the explanation! that is a pretty cool origin

Any recommendations of currently in print magazines geared primarily towards mens j-fashion aside from just Mens Knuckle? Any style is fine, as long as it's more male focused. It's tedious scrounging through mostly female focused magazines like Kera and GLB and thus ultimately not really worth it for me to purchase them.

>>9500162
Men's Spider and Men's Nonno are the best i have found, but they lack the variety of something like KERA. it is unfortunate KERA Boys did not last long.

Spider is sort of edgy street fashion, lots of visual host. Nonno is more "soft"/fa-ish street fashion.

>>9500162
ChokiChoki is all right, too. bit dull/safe but not full normcore

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street snaps from KERA's new web magazine (http://kerastyle.jp/kera-magazine-201707)

>Punk

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>>9506391
>Yume kawaii