cringe dance groups: the continuation

I find it funny how the cringe dance groups thread kind of just became an indie idol group thread.

>>9429581
> what do you think would make a majority of groups less shitty?
Aim lower and work on basics. Stellure is making a good example of aiming too high without working their way up. They need to be willing to put in a lot more practice and recording time to get the quality of the idols they want to be. More than that, the whole "anime idol" aesthetic. it's cute for promos and charms like these, but having actual wigs (especially cheap ones) just pushes it more into cringe area.
That being said, I do hope for Stellure to improve. Seeing girls go from ordinary to extraordinary is what makes idols idols.

>>9429581
>what do you think would make a majority of groups less shitty?

Good vocals, better hair/makeup/outfits, no hamplanets

"callisto", are you kidding me

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Speaking of Stellure, I'd like to see them use a modified version of this design sometime (sans wings). It's my favorite out of the drawings they've done so far.

>>9429688
it has potential but i don't think it'd translate well into real life. a lot of their designs are alright for drawings, but they're not practical enough to become a real thing. definitely since they're not drawn on bodies that resemble the actual stellure girls' bodies

>>9429581
as if anybody would buy all 6 charms, let alone just one

>>9429596
I've discovered I need this thread in my life, so I'm okay with that.

>>9429581
Simplify outfits
Use natural hair
Workout routines

>>9429851
People will buy one

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Some of these groups are such a hilarious mess. Thanks, Love Live.

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>>9429990
They're... blatantly ripping off Teddie's outfit

>>9429990
Their name is 'What' in Japanese

>Meets Japanese person
>'What's your name?'
>'What'
>'I said, whats' your name?'
>'What!'
>'What? No I said, WHAT'S your NAME'
>'It's What!'
>'IT'S YOUR NAME!'
>'Yeah, WHAT!'

>>9430046

That's not quite how Japanese works, but...

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>>9429581
Stellure sure knows how to market themselves to Love Live weebs.
Though I find it a bit weird that they're selling merchandise after that disaster of a music video they just gave up on and released as is because "it was the best they could do." At least they aren't like Shining Academy or Rebel Symphony trying to crowdfund ~$1,000 so they could debut.

>>9429926
>Simplify outfits, use natural hair
Pic related, Stellure could keep their cutesy pastel-haired anime idol personas and then dress themselves more practically and style their natural hair.

>>9429990
>"I don't have one" xdd!!

Enough cringe for today

>>9430496
>fat
calm down anachan like 3/5 of them are average weight just have no toning that makes them look dumpy in their awfully tailored outfits bit much to use the same descriptor for them as someone like fuckin momokun or some shit

>>9429851
The charms are cute, I'd have wanted to buy them if the group they're associated with wasn't so bad.

>>9430496
they're 15 year old girls who are a little bit babyfat but other than that skinny as fuck (other than the actual fatty with the brown/green hair and blue hair)

it certainly isnt looks holding them back

>>9429581
Man how is mould-chan gonna feel when nobody but her mum buys her charm?

>>9430531
Usually what happens when you edit something with Movie Maker of all things

>>9429596

What about all those chinese cosplay cover dance groups for Idol Anime?

>>9430531

I have to agree. If the girl they are cover doesnt have have pastel colored hair then sure you dye it but pastel hair colors just dont work and it is better value just to get a stylist to help you get that idol hair look without looking gaudy like a cheap wig does

>>9429581
what i find funniest is
>worldwide shipping included
decent shipping costs ~$10 they're not going to make any money at all unless they sell a shitton

>>9430884
This so much, they aren't going to make any money selling outside America unless they sell the six-packs--which isn't likely.

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post more cringy dance videos please! i need a good laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6BI9pj54M

How many hard dicks were there in this classroom?

>>9431084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuxY9I45mCY

>>9431084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG-fGfgHRRk

>>9431084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx4ZOeVcKmE

>>9429581
>What would make for less shitty dance groups?

1. Be able to sing
2. Be able to compose music beyond shitty pre-made keyboard tracks
3. Lyrics; try not to be cheesy (singing about friendship is cheesy no matter what). Failing that make everything else catchy af
4. Choreograph a good dance routine which is possible for all your members to do with their fitness level (or improve their fitness level)
5. Thought out outfits that are restyled to suit all shapes of the group, nothing too complex ie coloured circle skirt and a shirt
6. No wigs (unless you're a cover group)
7. Do not start hyping until song is in its last stages of completion and remaining list is mostly finished
8. Get a decent camera
9. Publish your shit when you say you are

>>9431985
I feel like the girl in the blue swimsuit is blinded by the sun and it's affecting her facial expressions and movement. They're not bad but they're pretty out of sync at some points and all I can see is Blue squinting lol.

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It is so embarrassingly obvious that they made these fan pages

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>>9432250

>>9432254
God this is embarrassing. I feel bad that fatty-chan knows that nobody will make one for her so her feels the need to preemptively get the jump on it

>>9431172
>that sperg that runs to grab the dude's phone

The real cringe.

>>9432254
>luna/stellure fanpage
>love live fanart

They couldn't even post art related to their group?

>>9431172
this dance is so boring to watch

>>9431084

Here you go, from last year just in time for Sakuracon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwl0U1IRHCw

>>9432294
I think it's the teacher

>>9432520
thats what i thought too

>>9431084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYJrpAk7qs
There's so much wrong with this

>ratty wigs
>twig men
>piggu chan is bright pink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXh57yFj8gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SHfwClOoR8
Fat girls ruin dance music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cibh8W0fSc
I actually like their dresses, but the lighting and their blank stares are so awkward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTRMgPRjxjw
Not offensively bad, but the movement and the lack of focus makes me sick

>>9432534

The rin in the last one genuinely terrifies me.

>>9432534
>not offensively bad
It was the cringiest one of all to me

>>9432534
That first one is fucking hilarious, props to them

>>9432885
HEY

HEY

HEY START CRASH

>>9432871

Which part? ų's covering kpop?

>>9433017
When Kotori's wig came off I fucking lost it
Such a genuinely fun idea, made even better with the fact that they're awkward, gangly dudes

>>9433035
The overall concept, I guess. Why are they so close to the camera? Why aren't they actually dancing in a video labeled "dance cover"? is "eye contact ver" a normal way to film dance/idol videos and I've just been unaware this whole time?

>>9433050

Its something that is very popular in kpop. You ask any kpop fan and they will explain how the eye contact ver.

>>9433373
>>9433050
Seems almost infantalizing and definitely narcissistic. It's gross.

>>9433384
>>9433373
So I decided to look up "kpop eye contact version" on youtube because this is a new thing to me and I found the eye contact version for the dance they were "covering" and this is what it's actually supposed to look like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4uYvMygQzI&

>>9433569
The official TWICE one is still a little infantilizing to me but I feel that way towards a lot of kpop girl groups that go for the cutesy look. The pouty duck lips and upturned eyebrows they always use are so punchable to me.

But the LL one is just straight creepy because of the lack of dance; it feels like you're a guy in the middle of all these girls standing around doing nothing until they get their chance to be in onii-chan/producer-sama's face. Like a harem competing for him and making cutesy faces at him.

>>9433569
See, I found this one too but it was so different that I didn't even believe it was what the LL group was trying to do. This one is has actual dancing, both from the girl in the spotlight and the girls not in focus. The cover has...the girl in the spotlight making cutesy faces and the rest standing around awkwardly. I can't even call the LL one a dance.

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The other day, the leader of NovaDrop made a thread asking for advice on how not to be like the groups featured in these "cringy dance groups" threads. Pic related.

>Aiming to be an American J-Pop Idol
>I'm hoping that it doesn't seem that I think that being an idol is some romanticized notion for me
Do people think they can become idols just because idols don't necessarily need to be talented? You still need to be cute and charismatic, and not a lot of aspiring idols fall into any of those categories.

In other news, Flusay Girls finally released a new song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NpnfhyIeAU
It's... not completely horrendous... I guess, when you consider the other shit they've made.
The preset instrumental trance loop clashes pretty badly with the lifeless autotuned vocals singing bouncing bunnies... I hope they'll make a music video for this song.

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https://youtu.be/sA4fE53jcZU

I just found this guy and I'm very proud of myself.

https://youtu.be/P0gSBMKvk6M

>>9432534
TIL I'm fat oops sorry y'all I know leggings aren't great on me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GioCF-jGxnw

this one is pretty bad, they all look like they cant see with their wigs

and riko does the nico nii thing wow that was bad enough with nico

>>9434497
>>9434454

that's embarassing

>>9434347
>https://youtu.be/sA4fE53jcZU
i've got to at least give him credit for trying something different. it's better than oversaturation

>>9434454
I hate it when people just dance and don't even try to lip-sync

https://youtu.be/THcOdku8vvg

>>9434497
>>9434454
Do these people not understand that the appeal of Idols is that they're NOT fat and ugly?

>>9434695
i wouldn't even care if they at least danced well and dressed for their size.

>>9434454
Jesus that Maki...

>>9434347
His mom loves him a lot. You can never take that away from him.
Worst part about this video was his socks.

>>9434454
I hate everything about this. Can't even pick what the worst thing about it is.

>>9432871
They were at least all a little cute, and were't sporty rat nest wigs.

>>9434479
Are you the fat girl in this video?
Also, please get that reddit shit out of here.

>>9434497
>7
Hate the one girl with taller socks

>>9434694
If the video is correctly titled, this is amazing. I don't even know why you'd post this without praise.

>>9429926
I'm glad she's looking into fitness. It helps so much for dance groups.
>>9434291

>>9434694
>>9434931
This was for a wedding, the one in that's in center with the veil was the bride. I don't really understand why someone would repost with that title and then someone post it here. It's clearly for the bride's own fun, and they're not even bad.

>>9435544
>This was for a wedding
That makes it even more cringy and autistic. Can you imagine what her poor parents were thinking?

>>9435630
You sound fun at parties

>>9435630
meh it's her choice, not like it's my wedding haha

>>9434291
NovaDrop actually has promise and the leader is really quite driven, organized and just honestly a pretty sweet kid.

>>9436191
I agree. They're not professionals so I don't expect a professional level of quality from them, but they're putting in the effort so that's really what I admire. Halfassedness and low effort is what's making a lot of these groups cringey, moreso than their actual skill levels.

>>9432508
They all look very, very lost.

>>9435630
A bride does what she wants at her wedding.
You shit.

>>9436199
Agreed. Amateurs can make grade A product with enough time and effort put into a project. /cgl/ is proof of that.

>>9434347
Cringy, but offset by being actually good at the robot dance. All he needs now is a decent costume and background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIphrqWRGtU

she look so dead

>>9437511

This is a shame, the cosplayer is really cute and her accuracy and timing seems to be okay...but this is just so low-energy. She could put a lot more motion and space into her movements and it'd be so much better.

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Not cringe but wasn't sure where else to post this
Has anyone else noticed that MK are p much Maids of England 2.0 now? They recently added 2 ex-members and 2 active MOE members

>>9430042
is this sarcasm or advanced stupidity?

>>9438218

They're pretty much up each others asses and only take on their friends for their group. They used to hold auditions but now it's just entry via recommend a friend.
One of their members is also in Meian Maids and posts here frequently, especially in the idol thread.

>>9434694
This is honestly really cute.

>>9432254
Poor girl, how embarrasing, she's the worst one and she knows it. Why is she using that terrible wig? Green and brown looks ugly, I could see it working only if her character was somehow nature related.

>>9438218
I don't think I've ever heard of them before... Do they have a YouTube channel?

>>9437511
>>9437526
I kind of feel like she was self conscience in her dancing because of her location. She knew people could see her it seems.
But she is a cutie, agreed

>>9438580
Their channel is MKdanceUK, they upload every month-ish. They do performances at UK cons pretty often

>>9438310
Don't get me wrong, the MOE girls are really cute and talented, but it's a shame the UK weeb scene is so dominated by the same few friends that they don't even hold auditions anymore. I'd like to see more variety

>>9438310
which girl from meian?

>>9438706

Dashiki

>>9438814

Sorry, auto-correct fucked it up. No idea how it got that word.
Sachiko is the maid.

>>9432534
Is the first one croplayers? Cause I want to label it as "transvestites and lube"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrAsA1H64mc&index=8&list=PLIsn_7s5CQhcuGoZ8UKMylqCXYmpUhS3Y

The whole playlist this is in is just... yikes.

>>9438816
Ah, I thought it would've been Sally because she was in MOE before, my bad!

>>9439164
did the rest of them forget to come or something

this isn't dance but oh well

Flusay Girls released an Easter song

https://flusaygirls.bandcamp.com/album/bunny-hop

>>9439485
The kawaii uguu echoed "bunny HOP!" and "OISHII" is so insufferable ugh

>>9438609
nah check that group's jumping heart cover,shes hamaru

she just really can't dance

>>9439485
This is fucking awful. Why do they all sing through their nose?

>>9432534
Honestly, the other dances by the girls in the third video are pretty alright despite the cringeyness of that one, especially in comparison to some of the crap on this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfImnAV_AC8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thQ0l7HruSI

they have some balls to shoot in that weather I'll give them that

>>9439524
i actually really like this

>>9439524

I wish the Eli would wear an actual wig though. Her roots are showing and its gross.

>>9439480
They had Bibi + Nozomi (for some reason though 90% of their panel was Eli...) but the whole group lives on an island that is a bit of a ways away from the mainland, and this was a one day event.

>>9439524

I dont know the original dance so I might be wrong but I think it look decent ,and they all seem to be syncronised wich is good

>>9439164
well damn that prove that being pretty isnt everything theyre so sloppy

>>9439524
They dance really great but FUCK don't fusion Kpop with idols, they're totally different.

>>9439794
I know you can't really see that well what they look like since it was filmed at a distance it looks like but... where are you seeing the pretty?

>>9439873
it's just a dance cover in cosplay?

>>9439873
One just for you anon lmao. They got a new Honoka it looks like though, but she's much cuter than the other one I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBQKSIRlGOg

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>>9440010
>that nico and umi wig

>>9440010
Am I crazy or is that Honoka the same Eli from Ohh Ahh?

>>9440051
I thought this too..

>>9439937

KPOP and JPOP doesn't mix very well at all.

>>9439781

Canadafag here, they are called Susume today and just one of the many idol cover groups that popped up after watching Love Live.

>>9440010
>>9440051

I think Eli and Honoka just switched

>>9439524
the Eli is really good and needs to cut out cosplay altogether and do solo Youtube videos

>>9430046
>>9430114
Yeahhh if the name isn't spelled as 何 and the person uses the correct intonation of voice it'd be fine.

>>9432534
omg I haven't seen the first video in so long, thank you.

>>9439524
That Rin is pretty good but there's something about her makeup that looks really off. Her and the Eli seem to be the best in their group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGM5Y_LqRys

>>9440087
she already does and is the leader of that dance crew. check out more of the channel if you want to see more of her, she mainly does kpop tho.

>>9440087
heres her solo channel actually, i never realized they both were different.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC36X1sxWEqqnYvYKOLVBSPA

>>9429581
>461 likes

>>9439524
Holy shit this one is actually so good...why did they bother doing the other version?

>>9439164
Can't even see her thigh tattoo and fucking hate it

>>9440212
What's the story behind the two girls not dancing in the right shoes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPA3Ll7wSys

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>>9440136
I wonder what it could be

>>9440295
I'm impressed

They have lots of energy, and their voices are decently strong and in tune during most parts, given the intensity of the dancing. That shit isn't easy.

>>9439164
the people on the right clearly hating every second of this tho

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iXqcJJWM8g

hum

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>>9440293
They're in the right shoes for the costume, actually. For some reason just those two characters have different shoes.

>>9440351
mari was alright, guessing she made the dance.
other than that, love live was a mistake

>>9440212
That Honoka killed it though, she had great energy the whole time

Here. A few videos for y'all.

https://youtu.be/gmNQhM82nDM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jK1AcJkviVQ
Bonus point for Hanayo's falling wig towards the end. The more you watch it, the better it gets.

https://youtu.be/Mg21DxZ_FYQ
>the man that stops and full on watches her from the corner

https://youtu.be/B2fk4rSJEGc

https://youtu.be/N52QtUjOwzI

https://youtu.be/F29HYaBdypg
And last one.

I hope you enjoy them.

>>9440835
God if only the first girl wasn't staring directly into the sun. It feels extra off how warm it seems outside combined with the winter outfit.

>in public
Gives it a nice Brazzers feel.
I also love the pigeon cameos.

Okay It's bad but at least he's having fun.

Jazi had some of energy in her dance.
Jazi had zero ability to sing.

>>9440835
hanayo desesperaly trying to keep her wig on her head the whole time oh god

>>9440835
Ive never closed a video so quickly when i heard Jazi sing the first word.

This group was apparently formed by the same guy who created and managed Furi Furi and even has a former member, Renee (the black girl).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTe4QCU43mw
They could work on smiling a bit more, and maybe getting a larger room to dance in, but they sure did a hell of a lot better than Furi's debut.

A net idol group from 2013. The song itself... is not that bad. It's kind of like Stellure's "Bright Future" but with effort actually put into it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMWpsVyaxdw

I dare you to find idol costumes uglier than this. They're pretty bad at lip-syncing too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp3cwqTc2-w

>>9442577

These uniforms are cute as hell and so are the dancers (The Minty Pop Girls video)

>>9442577
Glad to see Minty Pop is actually happening.

>>9442577
The minty pop introduction video's beginning reminds me of a porno.

>>9442577
>not knowing kamen joshi

I smell newfag

>>9442926

You and me both - purples mannerisms even look hookerish.
Blue has a really unfortunate face/nose. Sorry but of you're going to try and put together an idol group at least make sure they're cute.
At least this explains what Renee left MK Dance for, shame it's going to go flat on its ass though.

>>9440351
That yohane's outfit makes her look like a midget

>>9443309

Maybe it's two midgets stacked on top of each other and that's why her arms and legs are never Co-ordinated.

>>9440835
second video's hanayo should really have just trown her wig away instead of holding it the entire time instead of dancing

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>>9442577
so furi furi's manager basically ditched them to go manage a group of prettier girls who are actually decent at dancing lmao
that was a smart decision; furi furi is going nowhere

>>9432508
I'm surprised at how synchronized they are considering how lost they all look (Umi didn't even know what the next step was at some point of the first song)

>>9439649
Eli looks like she's about to cry from how cold she is but other than that I unironically love this

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>>9431172
>mfw that guy walks in and immediately starts trying to record her

>>9431985
I'm just impressed no one walked behind them and ruined their shot.

>>9432508
The thing that always bothers me with this outfit is I never see anyone with a toned stomach wear it. Yes, it's drawn to sit below the belly button right at the hips but that doesn't look good on most people. Maki had the right idea of wearing it close to her natural waist so nothing spilled out (she was also fairly thin but I think everyone could've benefited from wearing their skirts higher up).

Since you all just ignored the odottemita and allowed it to die I'm going to post this here.

Who did it better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXZtK6daMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-RdaUIzDAE

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Gulls I'm supposed to be studying for a final and yet I can't stop watching all these videos. Why did I have to peek at the cringe dance group general right now??

>>9442577
>Not linking Electrocute Lightning Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tigS715KnI

The costumes were ugly but at least they have a little something going on.

>>9444269
The cute girls

The guys would probably win if they performed at a furry con though.

>>9444298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HizBW8gYxU0

Let this be the last one you watch
The image of their dead eyes will haunt your studies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuMoXRrHANU

Someone help Eli

>>9444321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_IU-TVpXNE

>>9444308
Honestly, other than their creepy eyes, terrible set and lighting, and outfits, this wasn't too bad to watch. Not only that but they sang and danced with the instrumental instead of just playing the video and didn't sound absolutely terrible.

>>9434497
How short isn't the chick with red-purple hair... She has heels and she's still way shorter than most of the others

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Not sure if they count, but anyone heard of Class6?

>>9444321
>the nico is taller than rin
hisss

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Watching all these videos in the thread, I'm realizing that LL's choreography is kinda... boring. Like lots of the time half of the group are doing generic moves or are standing in a pose. IM@S always has moving parts in their choreography and has certain "signature" moves that distinguish one song from another (Ai like hamburger, Kiramekirari, etc.). With all that being said LL is much simpler, so I see why its popular. Damn I wish IM@S caught on more in the west

>>9444792

I honestly prefer learning im@s choreo. It's so much cleaner and you don't have to worry about interacting with others as much and having them potentially fluff it like in love live. Something as simple has holding someone's hand can become a complicated mess, but you don't have to worry about your personal space with that of idolmaster. They also cut down their maximum to 5 unless it's an all star live so the amount of collisions are reduced.

>>9444308
I'm actually friends with these girls. I often joke with them about how they seem to feel no emotions.

>>9444792
LL dances are really boring, from both a performing standpoint and as an audience member. There are only a few that I can say I really enjoy watching. A lot of the time they're better cut down to the SIF versions, as it's generally at the 2nd chorus the choreo gets even more static and I loose all interest.
I tend to stick to Im@s or vocaloid odorite choreo as it's much more interesting and enjoyable, especially solo.

>>9445002

It's a bugger with LL getting the SIF versions of songs too. So you are either forced to watch the whole sad thing and see the dancers lose interest or have poorly edited ones.
Here in the UK there was a group who split their members into the subunits, and because they didn't have the know-how to source them then just stopped it dead. We thought the music cut out.

>>9445056
Yeah it's a real bitch. I wish they were more readily available, I'd definitely enjoy them more. Maybe I should attempt to edit a few myself.
What group is that? I generally steer clear of the LL community here so don't know any of the groups. Only one I follow is Prism.

>>9445002
Derp, just realised I put chorus instead of verse.

They posted the dance ver. This is okay I guess, at least, they seem to have fun and emotions which is good. They still need to work on their synch some parts. https://youtu.be/D188tBQMBvo

>>9444323
dear god

>>9444321
it bug me so much when people don't even try to style the bangs of their wigs

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That's too many cents

>>9445073

This one in particular was musesic - who also started a patreon to get people to pay for a costume set for all 9 of them.

>>9445663
At least they know it's not worth a whole dollar. The sad thing is, there's probably at least one person who paid $20 to support them.

>>9431172
I just found a comment of mine from two years ago;
"This is SO awesome. Your kawaii and cool :3" or something like that

help.

>>9429581
They need to hire a better artist, that's for sure. Chibi art isn't rocket science and this looks like trash.

https://youtu.be/rUYkfASvOjE
Their song is better than most I've been seeing, but they need to work on their dancing, the girl to the far right just looks lost.

>>9446022
the one thing that gets me with this choreo is that when they sing never look back, they look back-

>>9434497
I told them they needed to work on their syncronisation and they just deleted it lmao

>>9446022
if you block out Pigtails on the right, they're not too bad. she's just so bad, it's distracting. why is she even still there?

>>9434497
that Ruby is cute, at least... she's doing her rubesty

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>>9440010
that umi's face reminds me of her

>>9440010
Felt like they could have picked a better outfit to dance in (cant put a finger on why) but defenitly needed better lighting.

>>9444600
How was it to listen to?

>>9444323
They look like Simpsons characters.

>>9445925
You can't be helped, already lost.

>>9446022
whitetightschan just can't get it together

>>9446872
It wasn't some magical experience, but they knew the lyrics and had decent enough voices that I could listen without feeling like my ears were being attacked.

>>9444308
they're good dancers imo

https://youtu.be/X66ZA8byWbQ

Their other videos are worse

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kW-Vn9cliqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyp28cdQwpQ&t=10s

>>9447574
The video and song gives me a headache. Such an obnoxious video, all those flashes and the blurriness, and the song is just bad.

>>9447709
The girl with short hair and pink shirt looks so old and out of place. Doesn't help she can't dance a simple song like this.

>>9447565
Ugh the Korean intros. The koreaboo is strong in these ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGk0GYFdo0k

>>9447709
I must be getting desensitized. The only things I found even slightly cringeworthy were the fatty-chans, but even that was more resigned dismay.

>>9448404
I don't see how that equates to being a Koreaboo. If speaking another language and dancing to music in another language equated to being any kind of -aboo, then lots of idols (and normal people) are in trouble. Nothing here points to "we want to be Korean".

>>9448412
Yeah my only problem is the boobs going everywhere.

>>9448548
>acting like none of us are self aware about idols and dancing to j-pop being weeaboo

>>9448665
You're not making sense. If liking something from somewhere makes you a weeaboo, I must be a teaboo because I like to sing and dance to Little Mix.

>>9448548
The Korean intros are out of place considering the titles of the videos don't even have any Korean in them. No Korean in the description either, therefore I infer they are Koreaboos.

>>9431983
>not available in your country
As an eagleperson i am very offended.

>>9431172
God i'm too embarrassed to even admit I like this song but this girl's doing it for a class? Jesus christ...

I guess shameless people have more fun

THE BLACK GUY WALKING IN THOUGH.

>>9432508
The beginning they're all just bouncing around and i'm like "Is there music?"

Still can barely hear the music.

The camera person is a cunt though.

God they all look terrible. I can barely tell what's going on.

God, do a fucking sync test before you record and put the music in before you post it on top...

>>9432534
Lmfaoooo the slippery floor one. If you know you're not great at it already might as well make it guaranteed hilarious.

Second one isn't that bad they're just all butterfaces. Even fattychan's body is cute in a meghan trainor kind of way but their faces.. Redhead's ok. I don't know who they're cosplaying as sorry.

Agree on the blank stares on the next one,
The last one, the girl playing Rin is kinda cute. At least they're having fun with it, I hate the ones too afraid on camera to put any personality into the dance.

>>9433036
I didn't even realize they were dudes.

btw anyone got any cute asian boys doing super cutesy dance songs like this? I've run into a couple in the past and i think they're the best, especially when they're GOOD. if you give me a jumping off point of a better search term i'll be good.

>>9444792
LL WAS boring overall.
Second season was better with actually decent songs (It went from feeling like "The producers had to find someone to make idol-like songs" to "did they get real idol songwriters to make these songs?" )
But god the plot goes NOWHERE, there's zero conflict because you know instantly they're going to win love live when they get there. Best part was when leader-girl (I'm SHIT at names sorry..i legit just bingewatched it too sigh.) fell from overworking, but the rest was shit and it makes me rage.

I wanna watch IM@S tho.

>>9452104
>>9452109
>>9452112
>>9452123
Sorry guys I forget how slow this board is compared to the ones I frequent more. Usually when I post as I read there's enough people posting that it staggers my posts out instead.

Alright advice since I see the dance cover game has changed over the years. I'm going to try to hop back into jpop covers after doing actual dance (and doing some kpop covers) for so long.
Do you think masks are still a thing to be used? What about cinematography? I still see covers shot with one shot straight on (kpop deviates and people do cuts, set changes, extra with filters and editing). Do you think it takes away the charm?
I am also going to note to do IM@S dances instead of LL. God those are so boring.

>>9432534
what the fuck happens to rin in the last one at 3:25
i can't even
why
is this an inside joke?

>>9432534

the last one.. how can they all be so ugly? all these weebs make asian chicks out to be perfect qts and then i see shit like this

>>9452123
LL is more like the girly fantasy of "oh yea we can start an idol club, and dance for fun and become better friends!"
im@s is more surreal about what it means to be an idol, with an actual producer-san, the work that goes into the dances in the studio, the rise and fall of singing and losing/gaining fans.

>>9452228
It all just depends on what you want to do. Some use masks, most don't, some like edited dances, some prefer just one-camera dance shots. It's all about what kind of content you want to produce. The usual way is to do it in one shot and without a mask. Personally I'd leave the mask out because it eats away facial expressions, but if you don't want to show your face for some reason it should be fine too.

>>9445663
are they shooped in to the pic??

>>9452310

And then you have wake up girls which slams you into the abyss of what it's actually like and ruins the sparkly aura people think idol life has.
It's like taking a cute kitten and curb stomping it in front of a child... at least that's how it felt to me.

>>9452612
Good. I hope everyone who waches LL watches WUG so they can get that toxic delusion of idols LL gave them out of their head.

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Since the dance general died off, did it have a FAQ? I want to know some good solo dances to start off with.

>>9452981
what genre/style do you like anon

>>9452981
If you're trying to learn to dance, this board full of overweight sheltered children is not the place. Half of them don't know what they're doing and the other half is just pretending to know what they're doing. Join a local gym, they usually provide some sort of dance class, most popular and casual one is Zumba. Most big gyms offer 1 hip hop dance class a week. Don't do choreo or else you're just going to be part of the cringe in this thread.

>>9453046
Idol dances always look like a lot of fun. But kpop and jpop seem cool too. Not really into vocaloid.

>>9453053
I wasn't planning on posting, just learning so,e fun stuff in my downtime to get up and moving between games. I know basic dance, but I appreciate the concern. Just wanted some song recommendations, since I'm not well versed in this field. Just looks like a lot of fun.

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>>9452109
the 2nd video it's these LL girls in original outfits I'm guessing

>>9452775

Don't get me wrong anon, I already knew exactly how awfully idols are treated and personally struggled to even finish love live. I just find that it's a shame that most who watch that crap don't even know about these other series which deal with it in a realistic way or call them boring because it's not shitting unicorns all of the time. It's just when you compare the first episodes of both it's a very harsh reminder of what illusion companies are making money off of, and that weebs are buying into without realising the reality of their precious aidorus and oishis.

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>>9452123
It really was.

I like LL season 2 much better, because the girls got last place and actually struggled a little bit. It was also pretty gay. But the dances are rather boring and I only like one song and it was from season 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5lUvjvXn4E&t=1s

LL wasn't bad enough to stop watching, and as I was watching it I loved making fun of how corny it was with the ~power of friendship~.

>>9444792
I actually think im@s dances are easier to learn than love live ones. They actually follow dance formations (8 beat) and have a flow. Movements make sense. Even wacky ones.

Because they're more interesting they're easier to remember as well.

Yeah, overall they're a lot harder dances but they're enjoyable. I get bored learning love live ones.

>>9453053
What the actual fuck is wrong with you. You sound bitter and angry. They just wanted dance suggestions, not a lecture that basically amounted to "you're gonna suck like everyone else."

>> 9452981
If you want an easy solo dance, Michishige Sayumi's Shabadaba Do~ and Fukuda Kanon's Watashi are super cute. Some group songs even have good dances that can become solo.

>>9452123
If you didn't like LL, you probably won't like IM@S that much more. Their main audience is waifufags and while IM@S has more characters (thus more waifu tropes) it doesn't offer that much more depth if you're looking for legitimate idol drama. WUG is the best idol anime if you're looking for realism, IM@S is good if you want an optimistic look at what the idol industry could be and LL is if you want Slice of Life and Idol genre mixed, like K-on.

>>9453489
Love Live was my first idol anime, and i just recently watched Wake Up, Girls, and it was so much better. Love Live had almost zero conflict.

Also the dances are boring to watch.

>>9453913
ohh I loved Wake Up Girls!!

I remembering having an argument on here with a few anons about how WUG was so boring and they couldn't stand it. Now everyone is coming out saying WUG is so great. Where have yall been? ;_;

WUG was a great show that showed the more gritty/realistic side of being an idol, I really appreciated that change of pace from the sunshine and rainbows that LoveLive can be.

Does anybody like watching dance videos of WUG? these are some of my favorites, it seems like every WUG cover the people look like they're having fun, and not deadpanned like I see a love of LL covers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rTY15QfSg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPqp_0wohaE

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>>9454444
>seems like every WUG cover the people look like they're having fun, and not deadpanned like I see a love of LL covers
I'd chalk it up to more maturity and self-awareness in presenting themselves and actually putting energy and effort into their performances, unlike young delusional LL weebs who watched high school anime girls become sensational idols with minimal on-screen effort and think "I can do that too!"

>>9453709
Thank you for the suggestions. I appreciate it!

>>9454444

I always wondered why no idol shows pulled a Bojack yet. A show that have WUG's more realistic side of being an idol with some asshole comedy that wouldn't be out of a place in a British Comedy. Antics like ruining a rival group through unintentional sabotage and messed up antics that violates the tenets of the anime idol genre.

A pity WUG didn't do too well sales wise for BDs

>>9445002
As someone who went to the lives, sorry you have shit taste I guess?

>>9454546
I think anon was more referring to LL! dance covers rather than the seiyuus' live concerts... and they're not really wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgLzbiKkDJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liBKGCrjSSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEs_Av5mGTE

>>9429581
>i_can_only_draw_3/4_view.jpg

>>9454562
>third video's Kotori

She looks terrifyingly dead inside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e60mjiBD_a0

>>9454444
First group of Girls is adorable. I just wanna eat em up.
The outfits remind me of a Hot Topic Snow White costume.

>>9454562
The girl's lips moving before the music even started really got me. I will say, I like their location. It was simple, but worked.

Fattys ruin everything. What character kigu is it, or is it an OC? I have to know

>fatty wearing flesh toned tshirt

>>9454546
As >>9454562 said. I'm speaking in reference to the dance covers.
The lives are on a whole different level. I love them because I love the songs and seeing the seiyuus perform. That coupled with the energy & atmosphere can make even the most boring dances like Mogyutto, really fun and interesting to watch.
I'm a huge LL fan, but I'm not blind to it's faults. One of which is poor choreography imo.

I wonder if these dance groups have Wota backing them up and inflating their egos.

>>9454667
Why exactly are you posting a channel intro?

>>9455266
Only the good groups who put effort have wota. Wota support idols who want to grow and show improvement, not "this is good enough" basic bitch LL groups.

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>>9455332
Not only that, but it was posted over a year ago and isn't even cringy. It's actually pretty nicely edited.

Not accusing that anon in particular, but I've always wondered how many posts in these threads are from rivaling groups.

>>9454669
>What character kigu is it, or is it an OC? I have to know
Pic related, she's cosplaying Dancing Stars on Me Nozomi. The girl in the white tank top who looks hopelessly lost throughout the dance is supposed to be Kotori. Not even joking.

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Hoshi/Hibiki seems to be trying her hand at cosplay under the name Reed Kitsune.

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>>9455584

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>>9455584
>>9455585
>bangs on the wrong side

>>9447709
I like when they turn the camera around and there's only like 3 people in the audience.

>>9454562
>>9455529
That Kotori reminds me of my boyfriend's sister in a hilarious way. She doesn't take herself seriously and I'd imagine if she stumbled upon a group of girls in cutesy costumes doing a dance she'd jump right in and dance like this girl.

I couldn't stop laughing while watching the video.

>>9455381

What's your opinion on the Chinese based LL cover groups? They certainly dance better than what we have seen here.

>>9455731
They often have cheaper easier access to studios, content and costumes, and because the original have a bigger fanbase they're more likely to get people local to them to complete the set and/or more willing to travel.

Plus, some of these are purely "she's fat she ruins it" and thus the Asians are more aesthetically pleasing

>>9455731
>>9455940
Not the same anon but I think people just like watching Asians dance to other Asian music. If you notice, "weeaboo" is nearly exclusive to those within the west and those that are white. Even when there is someone good, if they aren't Asian it comes down to "you're a weeaboo" and even if they're a decent weight and slim, compared to Asians they're considered fat. So when they are good and not a stick it's "ew you're a fat weeaboo". Granted some ARE but even those who just genuinely have an interested in the music, style, and culture are called such so there's a super thin line these days between what is and isn't a weeaboo.

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>>9455584
holy shit that 2000s edit

>>9455731
Higher standards. I've yet to see any Asian equivalents to videos like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1irat-im1ho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbMRIWXhjGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1nmYuItX7E
...or have I just not looked hard enough?

Now I'm wondering if there are any Japanese "net idol groups," similar to Stellure or Flusay Girls...

>>9456499
More than likely, they don't exist. In Japan they don't really have to use the internet as a means connecting with other people interested in THEIR own culture. They can really just go outside or ask their friends. The closest thing you probably could get to an actual Japanese net idol group is ClariS which started out as two girls just singing online that blew up & became famous. Plus in Japan they don't need the internet to become famous or be idols. It's Japan. If they post videos on NND they may get traction but let's be honest. If girls in Japan wanted to be idols they'd only have to go to the millions of auditions or start their own local idol group.

>>9454667
>blood type

So being Asian sure didn't help the girl in the first video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aAULA6DpfA
They're not doing much, but what a difference it makes when the audience loves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0fY8WgFTRQ
Poor blue tie girl looks terrified. You got this, Chilean blue girl.

I love how Miume can dance with a broken arm better than a lot of people can dance, period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjZFKoje_m0

>>9456655
Well considering her broken arm isn't the primary in a lot of the moves and doesn't really affect the dance. Not only that but isn't Miume a professional dancer? I mean she choreographed this for christs sake.

>>9456499

I feel like I am gonna be shitting in the backyard in the PNW Cover Groups but I shown Zeus from Van Once and someone said they clearly lacked Energy. Some of Asian LL cover groups do know their weaknesses and at least rectify that in their next show.

>>9456101

Lets not forget a lot of these groups mentioned here forgot the three E's of idol performance: Energy, Enthusiasm and Eye Contact

>>9457182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59fsejKwHfQ

the blonde girl lord

>>9457315
That Ruby is bouncing freaking everywhere though; goes to show how much of an effect enthusiasm and energy have on performance.

>>9457315

IIRC it was during the AR Winter 2016 debut.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOkVK0K1y0s

>>9457404
I'm sensing no type of energy or happiness from these guys, if they had it they'd be fine.

I just can't watch all of it :/ There's just no synch between them

>>9457339
>>9457315
the other girls defintetly need to learn from tha t ruby

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New album cover for Stellure sub-unit Super Nova's single to come out this Summer. Looks nice and all, but I guarantee those outfits won't look as slick and cool in real life on a bunch of awkward, untalented and uncoordinated weeaboos. Well, at least Stella is in charge of making them.

Just like "Bright Future!!" was basically, in terms of lyrics, a watered-down English rendition of μ's "Susume→Tomorrow," I imagine this song will pretty much be like Saint Snow's "Self Control!!" lyrically.

>>9458857
>How to draw lace 101: just draw a loopy line!
>How to draw faces: you can only do one type of eye and one face angle? Just mirror that shit!

I hate how the lace color is different on the bust and the skirt and the arms, and the color scheme is ass. It's like "bumblebee" with random lightening and pink tossed randomly on it. There's a lightening shape design, but also hearts, but also flowers, but also stars, but also circles. It's a clusterfuck yet it still kind of looks plain.

>>9458875
Agree to disagree because I actually kind of like these. Of course the drawings may come out differently than the final product but compared to Bright Future, this is a huge step up and since it's Stella making it I already expect it to be better. It doesn't seem like a clusterfuck to me (or at least not as much as Bright Future). Color scheme also looks okay and that's coming from someone who's taken graphic design and basic color theory.

Also, how do you draw simple lace trim? Care to demonstrate?

>>9457404

After watching this I wanted to ask; what is everyones opinion of really obvious tattoos on idol character cosplays? Because I'm so familiar with the outfits that when I watch a video and a sizeable one turns up it pretty hard not to notice it (There's another group in Aisia has one on her leg so when they do different shots you frequently see it in all of its glory.
Does it make or break a costume for you? Would you rather the cosplayer make an attempt to cover it up? Do you think it adds to the costume?

>>9458857

They look like a rip off of the cyber set from LL

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>>9458857
I think you guys are over hyping Stella's costume-making ability. she made Meotashi's cyber Chika and it looks like shit
>ill-fitted
>lettering falling off
>shit material

>>9459218
Gotta give shit quality to a shit person. Its only fair and makes the most sense.

>>9458857
>Release one song
>LETS MAKE A SUB UNIT
Uhhhh.... shouldn't there be more songs from the main group first??

>>9457315
That blonde girl on the end has absolutely no idea what she is doing

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>>9459256
idk, this Mari outfit she made for herself is pretty hideous too
>>9459257
expecting them to be logical is a big lol. Meotashi is already freaking out about how she has to 'graduate' because shes 17 or whatever. She does realize the seiyuu are in their mid-twenties right?

>>9459218
Not a fair piece of evidence. First, the cosplay is a year old and the lettering and decals are a result of MEOTASHI not taking care of it. Second, I don't see how it's ill fitted. If it clung to her like the original, it'd look way worse and she'd have all that hangover you see poking out. The ill fit may also be due to poor care because in other photos of her in it (in Stella's Instagram), it's a lot better. Third, what would you have made it out of? The original use a plastic type fabric as do other higher quality versions (as opposed to some normal fabric).

>>9459266
Really? Cause I'm pretty sure it's almost a dead ringer for the original. But maybe that's just me. As far as graduating goes, if they're running it like an actual school idol type deal, she still has time. She's just dumb.

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>>9459266
What. But Mari's is hideous in the first place.

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>>9459291
>comparing cute, embroidered scallop hems to cheap, neon yellow lace

>>9459289
It's from Katsu. Definitely not a year old. There's tons of better materials it could have been made out of (ex: Chikkupea's cyber). I really don't get the hesitance to accept Stella as also being kind of shitty. She doesn't have anything setting her apart from the others besides the fact she's worked with some cheap vinyl.

Ice Qream is losing a member. She was the worst dancer, but she was definitly the most beautiful..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHmhwuRcV4s

>>9459218
I'm >>9458857 and yeah, upon closer inspection, those cyber costumes aren't nearly as nice as I remembered.

They really ought to work within their means and make simpler costumes. Plenty of idol groups have simple costumes/outfits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYQxShL60z4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXTq2XVBt3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9dxk8VPzaM
Oh, that's right, their only knowledge of idols is Love Live...

>>9459690
I think all the defensiveness over Stella despite her being just as mediocre as all the other members of Stellure is because she happens to be the prettiest out of all of them. There's not really much else to her.

Do they have singing lessons lined up?

>>9459841
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXTq2XVBt3w [Embed]
Are those cheeseburger skirts? I think I'm in love. Idols that speak to me.

>>9459841
>>9459898
>those cheeseburger skirts
Yesssss!

i found this cover of Bright Future in the recommendeds. This person helped them create and write the song. I hope she can not only improve but get them the mixing help they desperately need. I would be so upset hearing my song butchered like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJNE-_eeC3g

>>9460179
Honestly I would be too. She has a decent voice and they basically ruined it. I listened to some other music she did and I just don't get why she's create that bad song. Then again it's not like they gave her any time.

>>9460179
It's...better? I mean, the song was never going to be amazing, but it could have been so much better than what the group did. Her voice isn't amazing either--she's decent, but damn it makes Stellure's version seem so much shittier in comparison.

>>9460179
i would actually love to cover this song, ive had it stuck in my head forever and its fun to sing. it sucks, but its fun to sing.

>>9460179
I wonder if Stellure is secretly pissed that she sang it so much better, but has to pretend to be flattered

>>9460294
Probably.

>>9460179
Sure she's not great, but wow it's so much better than the first release. She at least knows how to edit, and kinda sing. She could easily get better and reach good. Stellure... idk they need to do a lot of work.

>>9454562
The Kotori in the second vid never gets old.

What are the chances that they got the 'Bye Bye Bby Boo' thing from Venus who, in all her videos, constantly says that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qc6myD97UU

>>9460483
i'd say 85%
good to see some fresh content from this shit show

>>9459289
I have reason to believe this could possibly be Stella... Hmmm

>>9460483
why do they look like pornstars...

>>9430531
In general i think cosplay-idol groups are garbage. It's fine if it's for a con but I see some people seemingly trying to legit BE the anime characters for their idol group and it's fucking stupid.

>>9453053
The only thing of merit in here is suggesting zumba classes. I think it's a good way to build up your endurance for dance specifically, learn some casual moves you can throw into your own choreography, and help you learn to follow someone else's choreography.

If you aren't a good dancer, THIS is an actually good place to start and the teachers are often more than happy to help slow down a move for you between songs or after the class. One near me is only $5 a class and you can drop in so it's worth it.
>>9452981
I'm kinda old school still so I don't really know anything specific to suggest you unfortunately (I.e. i been outta the GAME bruh). I used to just follow whatever I ran into and enjoyed.

Honestly the only thing coming to mind right now is Psy... Gentleman is my favourite for him lol

>>9453913
Everyone kept saying WUG through the whole thread and i couldn't find it by googling. Thank fuck someone posted the full title <3

I also hated LL for the zero conflict. At least K-on's slice of life wasn't so...I don't know....Dull and repetitive? The movie still sucked ass though.

>>9455529
Lmfaoooo

>>9456633
You act like getting picked up is easy in Japan and like it's not a country with a massive population in Tokyo alone with tons of competition.

If this were true there'd be zero anime culture online on the japanese side of the web.Where did you pull this info from, out of your ass or can you cite an actual source such as eye-witnessing it multiple times?

>>9456499
Only time i've seen anything cringey from japan it was done on purpose. I think the standards are higher in general since their social culture is a lot different from ours so I don't think many people post shit that's bad, and if they do, it probably gets no traction under the good shit available. But this is speculation.


God honestly some of these girls are making me so mad I'm kinda determined to give this shit a shot when I get to my goal weight cause i sure as fuck am not doing this shit as a fatass.
I already have formal dance training, i exercise daily so endurance won't be a problem, and I can sing. If i can put singing and dancing together, write some original songs and shit, boom i can do it all on my own. I'll post on CGL in a year or so if i go through with it.

i only got a few years left before I look too old to do anything kawaii though so i wanna tryyyyy.

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>tfw when your secret weeby aidoru dreams that you've had since 2003 are crushed because Idol anime became and thing and created an irreversible cringey trend that forever sullies the concept

I was never going to actually do it, and I'm way too old now but it still feels like my heart is being molested.

>>9460617
Do it anyway, anon. The best way to combat a shitty trend is show people they can have standards about it and do it right. I want to do it and i'm already technically too old to.

If a grandma can deadlift 200+ pounds, you can be an aidoru

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>>9460619
y-you too...

>>9460609
So I just watched the first episode of WUG and I'm sold. Thanks anon-chans.

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>>9460497
It's not but good try.

>>9460609
>If this were true there'd be zero anime culture online on the Japanese side of the web
Where did I say once it didn't exist? I said they don't HAVE to use the internet not that they don't use at all. If you want to know where I pulled the info from, use your head. First off, it's Japan. What are the odds of someone not in Japan being in a professional or local Japanaese idol group? Second, I have people who have lived there and fuckin Amina du Jean managed to get into an idol group while there. I never said it was easy as showing up. I said if girls in Japan wanted to be famous or an idol, they'd have to go the auditions that are ALWAYS going on. It's easier for them than it is for someone who's in Australia. Think please.

\>>9460619
>The best way to combat a shitty trend is show people they can have standards about it and do it right.
Yes, please! We need less groups like 321STAR, Flusay Girls and Stellure and more groups like Honey Hime, 4te and Lumina Scarlet.

>If a grandma can deadlift 200+ pounds, you can be an aidoru
If grandmas can be idols... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ANQOHRxFwM
and bodybuilders can be idols... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6B_oEtBhnM
...you can be an idol!

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Thoughts? Theyre supposed to be guests at a con close to me this year but i hadnt heard of them until this con. They go by Project Starlight.

https://youtu.be/mHI-Ne0_vs8

>>9461535

Nothing special. Their kotori from the vid and hanayo are terrible (not sure which kotori is their current one? The video and pic have different girls), also the fatty-chans are wearing costumes made out of that cheap satin instead of the vinyl fabric the thinner ones do because they can't fit into their pre-set sizes. It totally kills the continuity of the set.

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>>9460617
>>9460619
Follow your dreams, anons. A 20-something idol group may actually be refreshing. These young girls may be cringe but they always seem like they're having so much fun.
>tfw you have the aidoru dreams too but can't dance for shit

Project Starlight performed for Kinokuniya and it was pretty cringey. They had a Nico Nico Nii contest and were all very awkward throughout the performance. Nothing screams cringe like "We are Riry Whito des" in an Asian shopping center

The skinny Kotori is their current one. She's not as good as their old one was from what I saw at Kinokuniya

>>9460835
So you're just a dumb bitch after all lol.
>I know more about nipponland than YOU so that makes ME better and smarter
You're still a fattychan weeaboo though.

>>9461402
>grandma idols
<3 Grandmas or grandpas doing anything more associated with teens and 20 somethings is adorable. It's the only thing that helps me feel better about getting older

>>9461601
>tfw aidoru dreams and can dance reasonably well when practiced but have a weak voice

Since there were some recs for learning to dance in this thread, anyone have some for vocal strength? I can't afford to take vocal lessons, as much as I'd love to.

>>9461673
I started doing this after I heard this is how Johnny Depp trained himself for Sweeny Todd:
Record yourself singing. All the time. Record it, listen to it, sing along with it, notice your mistakes, repeat those parts until the mistakes are gone.

Always warm up before you sing (Just singing scales is enough but maybe youtube has further vocal warm ups you can follow along with), don't sing why dehydrated. This will produce the optimal results.

And if you can't sing well, make up for it with good songs, good personality, good sound mixing, and energy.

>>9461697
Also it's fine to learn to read music but honestly you'll do fine as long as you can sing by ear. If you can't match a note after hearing it, work on that first and foremost.

Sorry for double posting. I took voice training as a kid up until I finished high school and had to drop my dreams to sing professionally because my throat is too weak (Was easily susceptible to strep throat and other throat illnesses as a child because I had unusually large tonsils. Got em taken out at 16 a few weeks before auditions for a private singing group I wanted to join because my mom just wanted to get it over with. Had to re-train myself to know how to use my voice afterwards. My voice is stronger but my throat is still weak so I can't sing for prolonged periods of time.

If I can at least help others make their own singing better, that'll be enough...

>>9461636
And these are white girls? That's rough.

>>9461739
Yeah, once the Kotori left it became 100% white members.

They also made a somewhat racist comment, but it's Nico's charm point.

>>9461739
>>9461759
Maybe an unpopular opinion but if you're going to make an idol group based on cosplay you should make sure everyone is as accurate as possible on the character and that includes race.

Cosplaying in general shouldn't be racially exclusive but for something like basing your whole idol group on a cosplay, at least commit to the fullest extent.

>>9461700
>>9461697
Hey, thanks for the advice! I'm sorry to hear about your throat but if it helps I'm sure you're still way better than some of the idols posted in this thread.

>>9461763
Then the only accurate one is Eli? Because they're supposed to be Asian?

>>9461636
i nico nico need to see that contest

>>9461779
It's on their fb, you have to scroll through the video though. One of the girls actually sounded like the anime

>>9461769
Not what I meant entirely but i did phrase it badly so that's on me.

If you can look as accurate as possible to the design of the character to where it's unmistakeable who you are even if someone can't, for instance, see the side Honoka's ponytail is on (the only way i can tell who the honoka is sometimes) then that should be the goal.


Like..

Look there's no nice way to say this but if you're going to do an idol group and NOT use your own songs and COSPLAY for it, then you should make it 100% accurate as possible visually, and a black kotori is going to stand out as not being accurate.

If you just, yknow, make an idol group instead of a retard faux idol cosplay group like Starlight then this problem won't even exist and you can have a rainbow of people up there without problem.

It's just something that bothers me in very specific instances like this.

There's no way of proving i'm not racist but it's not socially acceptable to say this because it is sorta racist even though it's more of me being nitpicky about what i'm viewing.

I love a well done cosplay regardless, but looking at these girls there's no way this kotori was that well done if she was rolling with them, so imo it's irrelevant anyway.


In general I think idol groups shouldn't try to base themselves on an anime like love live. Be original. Even if you want to do a specific costume from an anime, do them as yourselfs (even if you give yourself animu colored wigs at least make it something original).

Like what if you found this group by accident and liked them, but then found out there was an anime with these girls. Some might find it cool, but i think it's retarded considering they're americans and obviously had nothing to do with the anime.

Does that help explain it? It's a shitty opinion i know.

>>9461798
I disagree about the skin color thing but see your point.

>>9461851
Thanks, and I also won't fault you for disagreeing because I know probably very few people share my opinion, especially openly (Well as open as you can be on an anonymous message board).

As long as fellow peeps don't think i'm discriminatory since it's personal preference not an advocation for a new standard.


Anyway, are there any groups that do in general anime songs rather than just love live? We need to post some more examples and i know none

>>9461535
not the worst, not the best

>>9461798
that is discriminatory, can't really excuse it by saying it's you being nitpicky. according to your logic it would be totally fine for a group to turn down someone simply for being black or too dark of skin tone.

>I already have formal dance training, i exercise daily so endurance won't be a problem
>and I can sing.
If i can put singing and dancing together
>write some original songs
>and shit, boom i can do it all on my own.

This terrible logic is what led to every video in this thread.

>>9461535
Two of the girls have weight problems

>>9462208
Except you ignore the fact where I clarify it's my personal preference for what I see and witness, not what I dictate SHOULD happen. It's only in the case of a cosplay-based group too.

There's just not many places I can say it safely and I wanted to be allowed to express my opinion even if it was only anonymously.

It's the same line of thinking as thinking fatties shouldn't be part of these groups unless they work on losing the weight (Which if you train as much as an idol should, you should drop the weight quickly, so these fattychans either barely practice or scarf down food like no tomorrow).

I think that groups with a specific look in mind should be allowed to be choosy without being labeled racist, ablest, or told to check privilege.

Let me reiterate: To me, as a viewer, it irritates me to see a group trying to mimic an anime idol group like Love Live while maintaining that they are their own idol group without being as picture perfect to the original as possible and to me, that means skintone should be similar. Let me add that because I have tan skin, this would exclude me as well from this specific instance.

But if you're making a normal idol group not based on a pre-existing form of media, mix it the fuck up, go for talent and overall beauty.

I don't care if people disagree since i'm not trying to CHANGE anything, I'm just stating my opinion on a pet peeve and one that doesn't extend to overall cosplay for me.


Idol groups aren't a free for all by nature so don't act like idol groups have to be all inclusive to everyone, that's a kind of mentality that only works in the fantasy world of tumblr. In the real world, you go for what fits the image and who has talent, and a lot of times in the music industry even in the US, looks > talent.

>>9462303
it's not the same line because a fatty chan has the option of putting the effort to lose weight. Skin tone however can not be changed and is out of a person's control. anon or not, it's still a pretty shitty way of thinking.

>>9462334
I acknowledge that which is again why it's my personal opinion and not something I want people to follow and agree with.

Now if you're done feeling self-righteous about telling me what I already know and have said myself about my own opinion can we move on?

>>9462535
A good further point to this is cosplay is about looking close to the original material, bringing it from 2D to the real world.
I think everyone can agree that when you cosplay the aim at the end of getting ready is to think
>"I look like Nico now"
Not,
>"I look like Nico now- if she was 30 lbs heavier",
or
>"I look like Nico now - if she was heavily tanned/Black"
At the point of the last two, you are no longer cosplaying the original content but an alternate version universe of it.

>>9461535

>Too much forehead on Maki
> Nozomi needs to trim her bangs
> Hanayo doesnt look like shes wearing any eye make up, and by extension those with lighter coloured hair need to go heavier with it
> Umi's bangs are way too heavy, Nico got it spot on I think
> Still lamenting that people still never try with Honoka's hair (discussed a few threads back) and just have it hanging around the face

>>9461535
There nico has the most unfortunate face and snobby attitude because she thinks she is the real life nico.

>>9461659
What. Where do you even get that I'm fat? If you have anything to combat this with please tell me. Otherwise you sound like a fuckin dumbass.

>>9461763
Based on this logic, only Asians can cosplay idol groups. People can't help that they're not Asian and enjoy the show/music/whatever. If you want to be specific why not just say only Japanese should? I mean if you're getting close to the original...

>>9462744
desu though, the basic skin color of Japanese/ most white people is in the same ballpark,(as well as some Latino people too) they're all a pale shade of skin Color. If you look a picture of just a bunch of hands of girls who are either pale white girls or pale to tanned Asian girls, you wouldn't always be able to tell which one belongs to what race.
so the General "look" of an anime character is still able to be achieved for them quite easily.
Sure Japanese may have a more yellow undertone in their skin but a lot of white people also have that.
It's not the same thing but it's not about the "race you are" but instead more about " how you look overall"

Its like how Disneyland will never hire a black girl to be princess Jasmin, BUT white girls who aren't Arabic but look similar enough DO get hired to play her in the parks.
If you're gonna be a character and make that your "thing" then you should pick one you can actually achieve to a close enough standard UNLESS you're doing it just to dress up then go ahead and be whoever you want, but if it's for the first thing, or to get credit of it being a "good/accurate" cosplay then they'd be better off working with what they have to pick a better other character.

>>9462773
>Its like how Disneyland will never hire a black girl to be princess Jasmin, BUT white girls who aren't Arabic but look similar enough DO get hired to play her in the parks.

Disney is also a paid job that is meant to be close as possible for kids to enjoy. Cosplay groups are purely for fun, no one is getting paid for this mess. They're not comparable.

>>9462779
Ive heard ProjectStarlight has been paid for events before. Disgusting.

The Love Live fandom is dying anyways, it's not long until they die out with the other thousand groups doing this shit.

>>9462779
I said at the end of that post, as far as just for fun cosplaying, I don't think anyone cares how accurate you are just to show your liking for something and just to have a good time.
The ones who open themself up to this level of critique are the ones who do try to sell merch or gain popularity by branding themselves as the real deal IRL version of insert character name here.

>>9462651
I've met them once and the Nico wasn't bad, just excitable. The Maki is the True bitch and their Rin isn't any better. Rin is the VA for Hanamaru in Sunshine, too. You'd think being that high-profile she wouldn't make such a shitty name for herself.

>>9461759

what did they said?

>>9462920
>Rin is the VA for Hanamaru in Sunshine, too. You'd think being that high-profile she wouldn't make such a shitty name for herself.
Who?

>>9463371
Project starlight's rin is megan shipman, the English va for hanamaru in the dub for love live sunshine?

>>9463298
They all said their character's charm point and Nico's is her pale skin. Some audience members and viewers were kind of put off because it implies anything darker than pale isn't good.

>>9462920
>The Maki is the True bitch
Please spill this tea anon

>>9463373
I just looked it up and yeah i guess.

>>9463524
The Texas idol comm is a cess pool, I've heard a lot of things especially from friends.

She seemed extremely demanding of her group at ANT for the short time I saw them. Members were wandering and taking photos with fans but she was very snobby when she spoke to her friends. She comes across that way on her Instagram as well, at least to me after seeing her behavior in person. I found out she doesn't work and her parents pay for everything but she apparently always complains about money?

>>9463373
Yep, her Instagram is airicosplay

>>9463688
I've run into her a few times and she's always seemed to have a holier than thou vibe even when she was being nice.

Anyone know why the old Kotori left? It's odd to leave a group like that so soon after a performance imo. And looking through their older stuff, where's the original Hanayo? She hacked the account at some point so it can't have been a clean break.

>>9464425
The kotori posted something about personal things piling up but that's it. Seems like it was at least a cleaner break than the hanayo. Before the hanayo disappeared she posted a lot of creepy suicidal stuff.

https://youtu.be/3NFsgWbKH3A

This would be great if they didn't have such a small practice room.