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Went on a round of second-hand shopping today and made some good finds I think.

>Real linen tunic with custom natural buttons, 7€
>Small coffee leather bag that I'm gonna convert to a belt bag, 5€
>Natural leather shoulder bag, 7,5€
>Not entirely larp related but also a Korean wall paper scroll for 3€

Ironically, my main purpose of the day was to find leather belts that I could use for my shield making and I didn't find a single good one. But I needed a new tunic (after a bird shat on the last one) and I lacked bags, so I'm good.

Not super hauls in terms of pricing but still good ones.

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>>9349011
Room for the bare necessities.

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>>9349013
And here is the tunic. I'm gonna have to adjust the size a bit.

I'm gonna cut up the small bag so that I can fit on to my belt, and decorate the other one with some runes I think. Any pattern suggestions are welcome.

All in all, this a good day!

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How do you find tunics at a thrift shop?
I mean, I have no trouble finding old people their clothes, going back to about 100 years of fashion. But this is next level.

Also I picked up a few pair of shoes for 10 and 5 euros respectively. And enough wool to finally make my hosen.
Was 1/2 weeks ago though.

>>9349031
You have to check the [spoiler]women's xxl[/spoiler] department.

This was a very lucky find though since its both linen and larp approved, one in a thousand I'd say. Bags are easier, but also in that department.

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>>9349045
Thought it'd be something like that, most shops here don't really have departements though. It's just massive rooms filled with an assortiment of crap and lil' jewels.

>>9349031
>>9349053
Bottom pair looks nearly authentic, nice.

Most shops here are small so its basically just a big pile of crap but they do sort things out on hanger rails so that is were you will have to look through. "Large womens" department is just a 2m wide corner etc.

I'd also get some more authentic shoes but the terrain is pretty horrible and ankle boots are good to have.

>>9349068
Top pair are sick ones though, because now that I've given them a good leather pollish they are perfect too for Arabian characters.
And I've tested it, they're aerodynamic as Hell, they will make a fine addition to my son-slapping armoury.

Also good idea, although I ain't the smallest I might actually drown in XXL clothes enough to turn them into tabbards and the likes.
Currently I'm just happy with the amount of hat designs I could produce out of the current high-fasion round sun hats.

>>9349068
>Bottom pair looks nearly authentic, nice.
I hope you hold your screen upside down, because the top one is closer to more authentic shoes.

>>9349113
The cut is closer to real shoes but I haven't seen many European shoes that feature ornate details.

The bottom ones are pretty good except for the 90° seam turn and the metal studs near the sole edges.

If I'm wrong, then sure. I only took classes in Viking society and Economic history so I'm far from a clothing expert.

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>>9349126
Both are perfect for larp it's just the slip on design is generally used by way more medieval and such shoes than the sholace thing. The sholace thing in that form as with the bottom pic is pretty much the exceptionas far as I know.
That and the pattern is as you said isn't a modern one in the upper one.

About ornate details, there are lot, you just have to search for it because the internet is full with the boring ones and people want to believe things were boring back than.

also on pic is a south german (although the general design has a kind of eastern european feel) shoe that is similar in desing to the upper show (look at the one in the background not the foreground one)
Obviously it has a different ornament and missing the middle line thing

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>>9348993
Sup larptread,

Since I took the role of group organizer onto myself with no prior experience, I have a few questions about everyone's favourite dragon-related festival, mainly related to food.

From what I've gathered, there's a lot of stalls selling relatively cheap food (relative to what is unknown), and a small store somewhat nearby. However, since I'd like to have logistics worked out in advance, can someone please answer the following:
- How far is this store from the game area?
- How cheap is "relatively cheap"?
- Is there someplace to get breakfast without having to walk to town (or bringing your own)?
- Are you allowed to cook within camps? If so, how and where?
- Which foodstuffs would you advice to bring or not to bring?
- Is using modern cooking equipment frowned upon?
- Is using food in modern containers frowned upon?
- How do you usually take care of it?

Sorry if I'm asking for the blatantly obvious, but I'm completely new to Drachenfest and organizing this kind of stuff.

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Reposting from old thread:


So I'm working on making some turn shoes, but do I need to add a seam allowance? I duct taped my foot then cut it to get a rough pattern, then smoothed it out and made heavy paper patterns... For some of the subtle curves I'm assuming straightening them is fine since the leather will stretch, but how much is it likely to stretch?
Do I need to add a seam allowance at the sole/upper seam? I made the duct tape pattern pretty tight.


Using 4-5 oz veg tan for upper going for a shoe like 'A' in pic related.


Oh yeah also will it work to do do the upper all in one piece and just lace where the leather meets rather than sewing it then cutting a separate slit?

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>>9349180
I presume you mean Drachenfest then
>From what I've gathered, there's a lot of stalls selling relatively cheap food (relative to what is unknown)
Standard Europe festival prices. Not cheap but reasonable prices and the food is good. Drinks on the other hand not so much but that's a granted in any such event. Pic related (mainly potato) is 4 euro I think. But those guys have the best garlic sauce.

>- How far is this store from the game area?
Fuck knows but there is a village a few km away, problem is you have to go down to the parking lot first and then drive there and then back and bring the stuff up from the parkin glot. That's a lot of time and I wouldn't recommend it. Then again I'm not a conformist and rather play more than to go to the shop middle game.

>- How cheap is "relatively cheap"?
Most food stuff is between 4 and 6 euro. Usually they are good enough one meal if you consider the fact that during the day on larp when you always move somewhere your stomach slows done and you don't eat that much. I happily lived by on those foods only but then again I don't eat much.

>- Is there someplace to get breakfast without having to walk to town (or bringing your own)?- Is there someplace to get breakfast without having to walk to town (or bringing your own)?
The in game food areas are all technically off game, as no fights or anything will happen there. There are all in the in game city. You have to wait until they open as they have to sleep.

>- Are you allowed to cook within camps? If so, how and where?
You are allowed BUT there is one restriction: you can't make a fire on the ground. That means you have to bring something where you put the fire and won't burn out the grass. The place is technically a meadow that the game rents so not burning out the grass is kind of important. As long as that is covered you are good. There is a forest nearby you are allowed to get firewood from there but only dead wood that is already fallen to the ground

>>9349311
>- Which foodstuffs would you advice to bring or not to bring?
bring stuff that doesn't rot and can withstand reasonable outside conditions. Also other travel food and stuff.

>- Is using modern cooking equipment frowned upon?
Only in the better camps if you don't hide it. I mean some people bring a proper gas stove and when I mean gas stove I mean the kitchen variant. But they hide it in the tents. So common decency, try to hide as much modern stuff as you can

>- Is using food in modern containers frowned upon?
If you bring it to outside of your own tent area? Yes. Try to hide it. I mean you can have a plastic bottle of water on you but put it in a bag. Nobody will call you out if you drink from a plastic bottle but don't make it visible all the time.

>- How do you usually take care of it?
Well if we see people with too much modern stuff who isn't in the orga then the same way as people who don't have hats on the hat day

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I have this problem with my tabard. I'm using stripe as his border, but the stripe get fucked up very fast.

Any way to make them more... durable ?

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Let me hear your thoughts:
Bought a hauberk/mail and its seen a few uses, but recently I dig later periods way more (16thC and up). I do love the mail's versatility, but it's pretty heavy, I'll be unable to take it with me to LARPs abroad due to its weight and IDK how to make it look cool in outfits, so I consider selling it and begin getting some plates.
Should I? Anyone used/uses plate armour and mind telling their opinions about those?

>>9349018
looks good except the little bit of undershirt thats showing but you probably are aware of that.

>>9349427
>some plates
Plate is bad when it's bad and good when it's good.
If you buy shitty LARP armor and just kind of strap it to yourself as an afterthought, like I see a lot of players doing, it's going to be incredibly uncomfortable. If you save your shekels, buy some quality shit and mount it like you're supposed to, then you'll arrive at a reasonable level of both comfy and invulnerable.

>>9349427
>Anyone used/uses plate armour and mind telling their opinions about those?
logistical nightmare.
Then again you have to suffer for beauty and to wreck other people's shit.

>>9349738
>logistical nightmare
Why? Since it's not as foldable as chain? Or is there anything else?

>>9349785
Not foldable and helmets and gauntlets take a lot of space, you can somehow put together breastplate, backplate and the rest but it's still not optimal.
So lot of space and you have to be careful to not put anything close to them that it might be get damaged, like glass stuff and similar stuff.

Obviously if you have a car that's not a real problem but you mentioned travelling and weight limits I presume you go by plane.

Also it's more time to take it on and off, but it really depends on what kind .
On the upside, with later kind of plates you can spare the padding cloths, which also take a fuckton of space

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>>9348993
Why do larp kettle helmets have a flat ring (1) while re-enactment helmets have a slanted one (2)? Is it just larp armourers being cheap?

>>9349845
Most larp armourers are actually make armours by production line and flat brims are easier to produce. Less cost for them and for a larp it's functionally not needed to be non-flat. Only for looks. But most people doesn't know better and also doesn't have taste.

That said, there were kettle hats that were VERY close to flat brims though a slight angle is there usually

>>9349859
Ah, thanks. What IS the functionality of it being non-flat?

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>>9349859
Example for flat/nearly flat brims are cabasset like on pic, also there are some similar earlier stuff from Byzantium.

>>9349861
Hits and arrows slide off easier which means less energy is transfered to the head and your gorget/breastplate will take the most of it or maybe it slides off completely..
Also if there is an angle then it protects more the face, this especially important on the sides

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>>9349865
example of such thing when the brim protects your face from the side

>>9349789
>Later kind of plates
Like which?

And perhaps there's a lighter combination I can take abroad? How much would something like breastplate+helmet (Kettle/Sallet I guess)+gauntlets weigh?

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>>9349869
>Like which?
16th and on you doesn't need a gambeson, usually the standard civilian clothing or a thicker doublet / arming doublet is enough (though specific arming doublets doesn't really exist by then or very rare)

>And perhaps there's a lighter combination I can take abroad?
Well, you doesn't need a full plate neccesearily. I mean, I always had a half plate, and I'm happy with that.

> How much would something like breastplate+helmet (Kettle/Sallet I guess)+gauntlets weigh?
Depends on everything. My stuff is I think somewhere around 12kg, not sure, never really weighted all of it and since then I changed a helmet to a thicker one, new gorget and got a five fingered right gauntlet. But here is a pic

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Bought this pretty spoleto helmet for my teutonic character 12~13th century, more teutonic costume stuff soon!

>>9349904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01gUoC2uwMY

>>9349339
No, its fucked from material choices.

Replace it with something in a more durable material.

>>9349427
Mail shirts are more optimal for travelling than anything else really. Hauberks weigh a tone and plate take up a ton of space.

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>>9349871
How's vision with that bevor?

Personally I like being able to breathe easily and see, so I tend toward more open faced helmets. Recently got a black sallet that I'm planning to paint.

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>>9350712
I can see everything I need and breath enough. If I change my posture there is more visibility and more air and it kind of "closes" if I straighten up.
But It's a falling buffe so I can open down it completely if I want to

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>>9350889
here it is in open position

>>9350890
I know it may sound weird, but the guy who's cropped in the left...
Do you have any full, decent pictures of his hat by any chance?

>>9351089
by chance? no. I don't have pictures by chance.

>>9351106
Ah, this sucks. Do you have any of them intentionally then?

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>>9351130
I happen to have it intentionally

Anyone got pics of dudes in 14th to 15th century clothing of western Europe, British Isles particularly?

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>looking at online armor shops
>bank account is very flexible for the moment

This habit is getting dangerous.

Anyone else know this feel?
If so, link stuff you are currently drooling over.

>>9351378
Pretty much all of the stuff on this site, but this set in particular looks good

http://www.bestarmour.com/breastplate_5.html

If I ever did a conquistador character, the burgonet and morions look amazing

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>>9351378
I've got my eyes on this one.

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>>9351545
Noise

I could see myself getting something from them in the future.

Except for this helmet. I think its bonkers.

>>9351571
Kettle hats are comfy. Go for it.

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>>9352461
I'm guessing that that is for SCA or something where you have to have a full face helmet

Never understood the rondels on the helmet, they never seem like they would help.

>>9352719
well, on that helmet they do very little. There is a reason why they were used on other kind of helmets (some stranger skullcaps and proto-burgonets)

>>9352719
>take a blow to the head from a zweihander
>it glances off the top, catching on to the rondel
>break your neck in a 90° angle

I also don't think the face grill has sufficient protection from side cuts.

As I said, completely bonker design.

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>>9352724
what was the reason for them on the other helmets? It seems like >>9352731 would happen, with little protection added

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>>9352763
it was added protection of course from the sides.
Easy to make and cheap, for an easy to make and cheap helmet.

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>>9352780
Couldn't they just make them like roman helmets? Making round parts can't be easy, and they kinda negate the purpose of making the helmet to misdirect the blow by catching the blade between the rondel and helmet

>>9352798
>Making round parts can't be easy
it's ain't hard that's for sure.

>making the helmet to misdirect the blow by catching the blade between the rondel and helmet
and that's a non-issue, it would happen so rarely. I mean it's a cheap kind of helmet, obviously it will cut corners where it was reasonable.

A question to Drachenfest goers, or any millitant game that has a Pirate faction:

What can they use that doesn't suck in combat?
I love pirates and wanna play one, but most of their arms&armour as far as I know are pistols (Which you can't use most games), cutlass/sabre/rapier (Which is okay when you walk around and need some self defense but not for the battlefield), and no armour AFAIK.

Are there any polearms pirates used? Any armour? Etc. Thank you everyone

>>9350119
Any idea where you can find durable trimmings ?

>>9353092
>I love pirates and wanna play one, but most of their arms&armour as far as I know are pistols (Which you can't use most games), cutlass/sabre/rapier (Which is okay when you walk around and need some self defense but not for the battlefield), and no armour AFAIK.
Piracy has been a thing for as long as people have been carrying valuable shit by boat. You can be a pirate in any time period just by getting on a boat and attacking other boats to steal their shit.

>>9353141
No idea. Try googling up other shops and search inventory for stuff in other materials.

Anyone know how to make Jorvik boots that AREN'T fucking ice skates?

>>9353092
As >>9353275 said, a pirate is anyone on a boat who forcibly takes things from other people who may or may not also be on boats. There were famous pirates of classical Greece and the Mediterranean goladen age, just as there were pirates in the Caribbean and the China Sea. People in the Phillipines made lives hell for Spanish and Portuguese merchants, and the Japanese Woukou had a long history of being little shits.

If you wanna be a stereotypical honkey pirate, Gropey can drop in and give you the whole deal on costume/weaponry. But the moral of this story is that a pirate can be anyone, as long as you're dedicated to being on a boat and taking shit that isn't yours.

>>9352719
Hhhhhhhh

>>9353092
well if you really want to play a sea nigger on drachenfest then on that game there are pistols and such. Also I'm pretty sure various boarding pikes existed.

>>9353092
Boarding pikes, rifles, pistols (pistol spam is a thing, they don't deal damage though, but rather do a wind-blast effect. 5M pushback. Atleast I thought that was for DF.)

Also if you want to wear a bit lost looking breastplate under your coat nobody is going to whine about it. You see, if it looks cool it works for LARP.
After all, historical reenactment is a wholly other hobby.You got the rule of cool, so if you can make it work, go for it. Maybe look at some Napoleontic uniforms or earlier stuff. Nick their ideas, they used armour too and made it look far more modern.

>>9353535
I mean if you're going to play a classical pirate please come to Gold. We need far more players who still actually hold on to the ancient cultures theme.

>>9353800
>I mean if you're going to play a classical pirate please come to Gold. We need far more players who still actually hold on to the ancient cultures theme.
Gold must be really desperate if they want pirates in their ranks.
Also is the grand expedition still reside at Gold? I heard something along the lines that there were complications and/or drama

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>>9353801
The Grand Expedition is no more if I got my facts straights. And it's not so much that Gold wants pirates, but if I looked at a lot of the costumes online and at the event there's a metric ton of "generic knight/fantasy meme" rather than the classical stuff.
I haven't been to DF yet, but the group hype is currently heavy and I've been informed.
Triumvirate took a lot of the cool ancient characters when it was formed a long time back.

They too have fallen too knighthood.
REEEEE knights, go back to silver.

>>9353818
if that makes you any happier the landsknechte are still going strong with their mercenary theme.
Fuck the knights, we are the best with our blackjacks and hookers.

>>9353826
Landsknechte have a screening, something the basic camps don't have.
I find it a bit of a pity, but it makes sense. I just wish players were more try-hard, and classical stuff was bigger.

>>9353829
nothing will be ever prefect, with the exception of us.

>>9353800
>>9353801
>>9353818
I didn't even know the basic camps had costuming themes going for them (except blue being very nautical), I just picked the one I liked best. Does grey camp have a theme?

>>9353832
http://www.drachenfest.info/df/index.php?article_id=30&clang=0

Wisdom and knowledge, and the freedom of mind.
Just set the page to German and let Google translate it into English for you, we've come a long way and it actually works to turn it readable.

>>9353832
every camp has a "mindset" like beeing greedy for blue or warlike and bloodthirsthy for red.
There are also costuming themes but does are even less mandatory. I wouldn't even say optional, it's just people go for it but it's not enforced.
Like blue has pirates, red has vikings and romans, green has elves and rangers, chaos has autism and copper has little babies who can't go to the toilet without marching in a group

>>9353835
>optional
REEEEEEEEE HUNGARIAN, STOP SUSTAINING NORMIES!

Although you're right, the camps really appreciate it when you keep to the theme. It makes everything less "generic memetasy" and more of a developed camp, with it's own tastes and themes.

But no, it's mandatory. You'd make a random anon very glad if you keep them in mind though.

>>9353834
Damn, Google translate is terrible. Even translating German into Fake-German produces 50% unintelligible gibberish.

Oh well, I can get by enough to understand the general meaning. What the fuck is a 'Kartenzugehörigkeit' though?

>>9353837
I think it's okay to be optional. This is why serious groups are thinking outsode of that norm and see what ELSE can fit into it. Like the Ankh-morporkian city watch in the blue camp, or the Caradoc company in the red camp, etc.
You have to give people a little breathing room otherwise it gets really boring.
I mean yeah sea niggers might be interesting but if you put together 10 different groups of them it's just became a mess, you need a few things here and there that is different but generally fits the mindset, to "break" the theme just to give a little contrast

>>9353854
I guess, although I would prefer it to be a little more thematic. F.e. looking at the battles of Gold the actually thematic people look almost weird. What's the point of a camp if they all look the same generic fantasy-style?

And yeah, we're both painting two extremes, and we'd both love to have the golden mid-way.
Although f.e. the Landsknechte are 10 different groups of one thing, and they work well.

>>9353851
"Gray is the dragon of wisdom and knowledge. He is the father of time, and when the legends are true, he was the first of the dragons. His inner resistance is forgetting, nothingness. The great act of his reign was to raise the Second Dragonworld, to make the opportunity for the dragons to remedy past mischief. Gray is the keeper of knowledge and memories around the worlds."
Don't go to actual Google translate, if you're in Chrome you can let Chrome translate it with your right click. It works well man, I swear.

>>9353855
>Although f.e. the Landsknechte are 10 different groups of one thing, and they work well.
yeah but we are VERY specific and a small, closed camp. It wouldn't work with a big open camp, too many people who come to PLAY not to abide rules.
And even in the LK the are obviously frictions between the groups and what should be allowed and what not.

>>9353857
Yeah, closed camp is the keyword here. I like the idea of more closed camps, or atleast a bit of a screening, but it's not attainable for the public camps.

I still want 'em though.
And you're always going to have friction with groups, heck, it's LARP-drama. I don't even know camps or the likes on small-time events that don't have that.

>>9353858
Keeo in mind that there are a lot of people who ome to drachenfest and don't plan for it a year or half a year before. They just come down to have fun and play. You might say that they are casuals but the fun they have aren't a false fun.
And partly because of these closed camps in the size of the average player camps won't work or change so much that you won't even recognize Drachnefest anymore.
I can accept those players because of the sheer size of drachenfest I can find others whenever I want to

>>9353861
I gotta agree with you. In essence I'm just kinda stumped out at the cool plethora of themes that could've been with characters and outfits that you don't see every day. Rather than guy 101 in Mytholon stuff that was on sale.

I mean the characters and groups are still there, but just fewer of them than possible.
Och well, worst case scenario I'll have a toga party with just my pals. :^)

>>9353867
or you can try to go deeper and serach for the interesting guys in every camp that you encounter. There ARE little polished gems everywhere you just have to look for them.

Either that or just get a crossbow and shoot everyone that you don't like.

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>>9353875
Oh boy I'll be spending a lot of time in Limbus together with the people whose costume I disliked.

One day I'll have a big toga party in the gold camp though... ONE DAY!

>>9353880
if you have enough money to pay the LKL I'm pretty sure that we are happy to play fashion police to you. You don't like someone's outfit?
BAM! he is on the business end of a dozen halberds. THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES!

>>9353885
I'd have to throw away my current character, group, etc. to be able to play that.

Although signing up for the Chaos camp with a not!Sigvald ready to kill all those with shitty costumes in the name of true artistic beauty does sound like a lot of fun.

>>9353891
meh, chaos is a no fun group, and anyway you can put a theory and justification behind that anywhere

>>9353894
Oh forreal? Thought they were pretty decent, if you can look past the weirdness of Chaos in itself.

Haven't had any contact with them myself mind you.
And well, maybe I could do it with the current group, although I'm not sure how much backing of my pals I will get from this.

>>9353897
no real problem with them. They are just no fun. It happens a lot when you try to be evil for the sake of being evil. But I'm biased as I generally don't like full blown chaos things.
That said there are at least two guys from the chaos camp who sometimes drop by on larp threads.

>>9353880
You are exactly one toga borrowed to a random anon on the internet away from me attending your toga party.

>>9353927
Oh boy, guess I'm gonna go drape-shopping 'till I can outfit a whole frat party.

>>9353800
Classical pirate=Golden age? Or which?

And I might, this year. What group in gold are you? (Morning Star, Inquisition, Closed Fist etc)

>>9354136
Naw Classical as in: ancient pirates. So the Greeks, Parthians, and whatever scum roamed the Mediterraneans.

>>9351545
Oh my god, that site is so Web 1.0 it hurts.

Good looking stuff though.

>>9354387
I know, right? look like something I would have made in highschool.

But god damn: http://www.bestarmour.com/armour_12.html

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My dudes, do any of you have a picture of a not-massive pikeline from a LARP or a Re-enactment?
One or two lines are great. Will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

>>9354942
depends on what you mean by pike. Proper pike, half pike, spears or any polearm.

>>9349296
Remember to check which way your bit of leather stretches. Shoes stretch sideways, not forwards.
It's easier to take away than to add in. Use enough leather.
Hammer all stitches.

Sup, larpfags. Whats good?

>>9355800
Currently trying out new larps
Im getting really tried of the awful mechanics (yelling numbers and lots of "stealth" mechanics) and awful management of my current game
Sunk cost fallacy hitting me hard though. Invested a lot of time and money in my costume
And I do really enjoy rping with some members of the community but game quality is going down hill fast
Player numbers are slipping and I know I can play with the same people at different games

>>9355828
Which game, where?

>>9355829
Shadow Realms, Canada
The issue with the game is its been around since the '90s
Back when larp was dnd live

>>9355837
ugh. My condolences. What kind of character do you play? Any other games around?

>>9355828
>Im getting really tried of the awful mechanics (yelling numbers and lots of "stealth" mechanics) and awful management of my current game
Tell us more, we could all use a good laugh.

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>>9355828
I second this >>9355845

Local larp does not have any dicerolls or fake stealth mechanics, but magic is expressed by words alone, resulting in this one big battle where an Undead OP guy shouted "MAGIC PARALYZE!" for three whole minutes just because he could (normally your mana pool entitles you to one, two or three basic spells per day. You choose spells or more mana in your talent tree, out of ~30 active mages, only ~10 have 2 mana and about 3 have 3 mana, for comparison)

>>9355841
In order to avoid directly calling myself out, Im not going to say who I play. But yeah. A whole pile of games have been popping up lately so I got good feelings. Most of the new games are rules light without number yelling

>>9355845
To sum up, basically everything is yelled. And there is a shit ton of things
Basic damage is yelled with type (i.e. 10 normal, 5 iron) plus extra effects (yelling something like "body(so 10 magic body)" )
There are ~12 schools of magic with 4 spells each
I don't mind so spells are cast
Which is with an in game incantation
For a cleric the incant is "With the power and (insert aspect of god) of (insert god), I cast (spell)"
For a mage its "with focus and understanding of the weave, I cast"
Its a mouthful but I honestly don't mind it as its all entirely in game
The mechanics biggest issue besides yelling numbers at each other is the extent of legacy
High level players completely outclass everyone
With middle levels dwindling, there are basically just lowbies(<10) and high levels(>20) which makes monster levels just a mess

>>9355930
Spells don't include abilities however.
My most hated ability is the chain of stealth skills
All are rep'd by hand on the head which makes the awkward trying not to meta but am I acting stupid on purpose to avoid seeing you meta

These include
-classic stealth
-shadow meld
-forest walk
-invisibility
-earthen walk

Not including about 100 other abilities with various effects from instant death to parry/dodge

>>9355930
>>9355946
Yelling numbers and replacing the live action with too much abstraction is the downfall of any larp.

I am sorry anon.

>>9355946
My final complaint to the game is the staff running it
The owner is basically not involved at all anymore
2 "managers" are pretty retarded and play in the game itself. While marshaling and making rules decisions that affect them. Also dating people in game and giving them whatever they want
The "progressive" influence is creeping in more and more making the game worse. At least once a event someone has some degree of panic attack so combat has to stop and wait for them to leave(their triggers include loud noises and fighting) Theres a girl who can't walk without a walker who comes to most games. We play in the woods. Have to walk slowly as fuck to go anywhere, she gets in the way during combat, and involves herself in everything so we constantly have to fucking wait for her
I can't believe the game is profitable at all anymore with the reduced player base and I see it dying out without a large shift in rules and management

>>9355954
Yeah its painful.
I don't understand why you would want someone saying "parry"
Just learn to actually parry

And having to yell numbers during combat ruins any in combat communication
Whether its yelling plans or just taunting the enemy, its basically impossible

>>9355978
>I don't understand why you would want someone saying "parry"
I don't understand why you would want me to actually have to use my body to LARP you're just a fucking ableist blah blah tumblr blah.

Because faggots, that's why.

>>9355968
>2 "managers" are pretty retarded and play in the game itself. While marshaling and making rules decisions that affect them. Also dating people in game and giving them whatever they want
>At least once a event someone has some degree of panic attack so combat has to stop and wait for them to leave(their triggers include loud noises and fighting)
PURGE EVERYTHING

>Theres a girl who can't walk without a walker who comes to most games. We play in the woods. Have to walk slowly as fuck to go anywhere, she gets in the way during combat, and involves herself in everything so we constantly have to fucking wait for her

This is a little trickier... But to be frank about it, part of having a disability is understanding that even with appropriate accommodations, there are somethings that are still by the very nature inaccessible and even unsafe. She sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

>>9355978
The game is unsalvageable. I am sorry.

>>9356011
Im not against people with disabilities playing.
Its totally fine. But understand what you can and can't do
Theres tons of stuff to do in town. Build around the camp, RP it up
But if we are going on a night raid. Racing to save villagers. Traveling 5k to shut down an evil ritual. It is not time to come along if you can't properly walk.

Understanding what you can and can't do is important. You have to be able to enjoy yourself but not ruin the game for other players. There are some specific things I can't do. If they come up, I remove myself. Regardless whether I want to be part of the scene or not, I know I have to leave because staying will adversely affect the scene for other players

>>9356020
I have a Deaf (capital D, as in born deaf, raised in the deaf community etc) friend who is both SCA and a larper, who puts it best: "I can't larp a hearing person". Hungarian has a blind friend who is likewise aware of their limits.

>>9356072
One is blind (with a fuckton of other problems like heart, she had heart surgery, also sometimes some of her limbs paralyzes, etc)
Then there are some who have legit health issues and not allowed to eat anything or they will die, for example one of the girls are allergic to fruits.
Then there are people who aren't allowed to lift heavy stuff either because they will go blind (had eye surgery, too much blood pressure and will lose eyesight) or because of a broken spine back in childhood.

The list goes on but literally never had any serious problem of them playing or them demanding care from others apart from what common sense and general courtesy requires.

>>9356011
I just Hordor my gf otherwise she has to be in a wheelchair the whole time.
>tfw I'm her stallion ifunowatimsayin ;P

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>>9355968
>someone has some degree of panic attack so combat has to stop and wait for them to leave
>(their triggers include loud noises and fighting)
>going near your triggers on purpose and ruining shit for everyone else
>actually having triggers
>probably unrionically uses the word trigger

>>9356304
>unironically uses the word trigger
Not to be that guy, but there are circumstances where it's totally appropriate. The VA and battered women's shelters were saying "trigger" well before it was co-opted. Turns out people like avoiding literal 'Nam flashbacks in the mall.

>>9355968
My disability is pretty inconsistent (IBS) and thus I avoid getting involved in major plots since it would ruin the game for others if I had to run off 3km away to take a shit when I was supposed to partake in a ritual or a meeting or something.

It only affects others those few times I dumped my gear on someone in the group, but at the same time it allows those new recruits with no gear to try on a chain mail shirt and/or a shield.

I make it up to them in a lot of other ways but I still feel like Im asking to much, but that is just me being me I guess.

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So are here any PostApo faggots or just smelly fantasy LARPers?

>>9356679
I have a flannel shirt and a nerf gun sitting in my closet somewhere, so yeah I guess I'm post apoc.

>>9355985
Hoo boy. One of the games in my area takes this a step further and gives people a 'riposte' ability, which not only no-sells your attack, but actually hits you with whatever you just tried to use.
Smack your opponent with a disarm? The other dude just has to loudly state 'riposte' and somehow you've managed to disarm yourself, idiot. Add in some of the other, dumber, big damage-dealing melee abilities and you can easily get into a situation where you just instantly kill yourself. Somehow.

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>>9356767
I literally never was on PostApo LARP with nerf guns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC9kz0fjwz0

>>9356679
i mean anyone can be a postapo larper, just buy a few things from the military surplus store. It's cheap as dirt and the point is to make it look dirty and old anyways. Sides, it barely counts as larping unless you are using airsoft or paintball.

So i got some newb questions. I'm new in that I haven't gotten to go to very many events even though I've been into larping for years.

1) I'm going to a new larp after I move. I'm excited .... but it's full of sjws. Is this something that is constant through all larps now a days or just non-dag larps? Cause I thought it wouldn't be an issue ... but I found out people get triggered when you where anything that isn't European in nature as white person. What do?

2) I love making shit on a budget. The challenge of doing as much as I can with little resources practically turns me on. I hate seeing people sell shit at %400 times the material price. I'm setting up shop soon but I'm realizing ... layering is the key to making a costume look good. I want to make these outfits not only cheap, but accessable to new players which I'm finding hard to do. New people look at garb and think it needs to be tricked out in studs and leather and end up covered in a bunch of clashing gaudy shit. How to I sell my garb as a whole package to encourage people to layer, while still allowing them to mix in match? Is it game breaking to have mannequins or something? Stalls are suppose to be "in game" but I've never sold stuff in game. And they are fucked if they think I'm only doing trades, the point of this is to get rid of all this shit, not replace it.

3) What are some good techniques to implement when sewing garb that will make layering easier? Putting ties on everything makes it easier to sell to obese players, but looks like shit and can be hard to take on and off.

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>>9357199
Man, that's like saying, You need just a sheet to became fantasy LARPer. There is just one PostApo LARP in my country, where you can pass with military/survivalist costume and that's Stalker, which have completely different values than costumes. And honestly I spend much more time and work on my postapo costumes than my fantasy orc costume, mainly because fantasy costumes and characters on most LARPs are so standardized, that there's almost none space for creativity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37nVqJtGpCE

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>>9357230
>fantasy larps just don't allow me enough creativity

also ... is that pic suppose to be your larp and you? Cause I think I see your problem ... holy shit the amount of visible civ clothes and duct tape ... you might as well dag at this point.

>>9356767
Hoo boy, that means in situations where both side have reposte, the one who strikes last wins. It's hopeless, leave the game now.

>>9357205
>s this something that is constant through all larps now a days or just non-dag larps?
it's constant for US and scandinavian larps

> How to I sell my garb as a whole package to encourage people to layer, while still allowing them to mix in match?
change their way of thinking so they won't suck. Call me when you figured out a way for that.

>3) What are some good techniques to implement when sewing garb that will make layering easier?
Not trying to make one-size-that-fits-none cloths is one of that.

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>>9356679
every now and then. A few months from now there will be a fallout larp here for example

>>9357230
If you think either postapoc or fantasy needs more creativity then you simply lack creativity. Both of them needs the same amount of it, just different kinds.

>>9356767
the shouting math numbers systems are especially funny if the system is broken as fuck and you can out rules lawyer the organizers.

Hey there, I need some help.
The red cross is, at least where I play, for real first aid or, if present, paramedics. I choose to play a healer, but I like something similar... a symbol most people understand and associate with a healer or medicus. But I don't like to use the staff of aesculap. Any suggestions for a understandable symbol or some kind of heraldic sign?

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>>9357474
plague doctor mask for example

>>9357474
Try a heart? It would help to know what type of game you're playing. Symbols associated with the god of healing for example

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>>9357474
What about a cross in a different colour like blue or the caduceus staff symbol?

>>9357474
A flask of urine, pretty much the default accessory for a doctor in medieval art.

>>9357262
The rules in this case state that the use of a second riposte/parry just ends the whole ordeal, but that's evidently a new rule.
The high-level meta for melee fighters is to just load up on as many possible uses for parry and riposte as possible.

>>9357287
I like your bluntness, but im still retarded.

I want to show off how great layering is. I want to draw some pics up and that may help while still staying in game, but is a mannequin too game breaking? I don't know the basics of trying to make irl money when selling stuff in game. anyone with that exp?

Also, yeah make stuff wither for skinny ladies, regualr dudes, or obese people. So that way I can just say it's S M or L, L being for huge people of any gender. I got that. But what are some approved methods of sewing that I could use to make stuff easier to take on an off aside from ties?

>>9357474
Depends on your groups history. My healer type is more along the tribal kind, so I incorporate herbs, plants, bones, and have a more passive looking weapon like a staff or sword and board on my back.
If you were going for the red cross look im assuming you are going for a more european look with a red accent. All white garb that is free flowing yet slimming with red simple deco trim will help. Is your character a magic based healer or a practical one? that will change your garb drastically. You don't need a symbol for people to recognize your profession, but if you're going to go with one don't be afraid to get creative and do some research.
Some examples of creative medical symbols that would encourage dialogue out of curiosity:
bowl with blood
a pomegranate half
a skinned man
red and blue vines

Hell, spring for an old bellow or some crazy looking crazy looking rusted instruments. It's your character man, make it what you want.

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>>9357474
>>9357909
also, a pretty rad example.

How thick does the padding under a chainmail coif need to be to actually be protective? I got a shiny new coif to go with my new 13th century kit I can get a balaclava under it with no issue but I can't get any of my current arming caps underneath it. Is a balaclava good enough or should I just ditch the coif all together?

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I'm looking for body outline templates that I can use to design characters with.

Google did yield some good results and I started building up a folder with a small range of different body shapes and stances, but I mainly seek one that is like this Dark Souls character. The ones on google don't have "room" for thick clothing or armor since they all mostly stand like modern fashion models who are meant to have tight clothing.

I could use the ones that pose like a cover for Conan but that would look a bit cringy.

Anyone have any good base templates to share or perhaps a package of them?

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>>9357919
For larp its enough with a balaclava/lightly padded hat/cap.

But I wouldn't go near a hard foam larp or sca event without a properly padded cap (speaking out of experience, getting knocked out for real is not a fun experience).

Did you buy a kids sized coif or something, if its to small to accommodate enough padding?

>>9357950
>Did you buy a kids sized coif or something, if its to small to accommodate enough padding?
I don't think so, I've never had kult of athena not mention something is a child size. Though I do have a pretty large head, Seems like half the helmets any of the usual larp websites sell won't fit me.

>>9357957
I think you should see if it can fit on someone that has a head size smaller than you, and also check how it works with just the arming cap inside to see if the pattern is right and everything etc.

Chain mail works in odd ways which is why you need to double check everything.

>>9357909
Let me explain the problem.
You want to make examples of great layering in an easy way that is cheap and available to anyone so they can realize how great it is BUT and this is a very important part, in the meanwhile people right now aren't really interested in it so you want to educate them about it too.

The mannequin thing won't be a problem for any sane community, but there is always a chane that you meet genuine idiots.
Selling stuff irl might be something that the organizers may or may not like. really varies. And you can easily come off as someone who just wants to make money and not there for the game. This could breed hate, especially from people who doesn't like your stuff (may or may not veterans who have shitty garb but been there 5+ years)
But that's just me being pessimistic

But about technicalities in cloths.
ties, belts and such are a way but it REALLY depends on the actual piece. There are nearly always tricks and leatle cheating here and there but no general way to make it. I mean if you want it to still look good

>>9357935
I'm not sure I understand you correctly.
If you need just photos of people in certain poses, so you can use them as reference, Devinatart is great for that. Like this: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSL82bK0tVgPL0jf61GycaUEKxoDdZISFW_GpDG3SHU5o2_p-uT I can provide links if needed.

If you're talking about just body sketches, I'll see what I got.


Also, a question for the good roleplayers here:
I have the clear idea of how I want my character to act, but I'm having hard time to keep their mindset, behaviour etc. How do I improve that?

>>9358789
>I have the clear idea of how I want my character to act, but I'm having hard time to keep their mindset, behaviour etc. How do I improve that?
Practice. If you don't have enough pratcie tryto make characters that are closer to you.
Also try to imagine situations with your characters, simple ones that likely to happen and figure out how would he react. That way you have some "pre-generated" fallback options.

Anyway I'm off to larp, if everything goes right I will have a few pics next week.

>>9358789
I tend to find having set mannerisms helps me keep in character, reminds me I'm that person right now and they react differently to me. Like if your character gets annoyed what do they physically do? Grit their teeth and hold it in/stamp their feet/shake their hands around/etc.

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>>9358789
Stuff like this but preferably in higher resolution, more generous posing for thick clothes/armor and closer anatomic accuracy.

Not necessarily with both front and back.

I suck at drawing humans, otherwise I'd do it myself.

>>9358789
A trick I use, which pisses off my room mates to no end, is practice around home. Starting out, just doing my character. But now I practice a couple different accents and mannerisms just as acting practice.

Also, don't be afraid to take some acting classes. They do really help. Being a good role player encourages and drags other players along making a better game

>>9348993
When purchasing a gambeson, is it worth buying the more expensive suede option or should I go with the cheaper cotton option? The suede looks a bit nicer, but I'm worried about the durability and longevity of it

>>9358903
Are you looking at the Mytholon gambesons?

Go with cotton but I strongly advice to invest in a gambeson with linen exterior. They hold up much better.

>>9358909
Yeah I am. They fit the "look" of the character I'm playing very well. And thanks, I'll look around some more before I decide and take that into consideration.

>>9357230
>almost none space for creativity.

>I can't come up with shit myself, but here's an excuse for you

>>9357919

For layered (not stuffed) gambesons, you're looking at around 30 layers of linen. That should give you some idea of thickness.

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>>9348993
PLS HELP IN OVER HEAD

Okay so I'll be brief...
I recently started my own business teaching swordsmanship (HEMA 1600's to 1700's), and it's picked up REALLY quickly.
Anyway, I'd had to cut back on my hours at my "real" job ion order to focus more on it. There's a slight issue...

I've agreed to teach over the school holidays later this year, and I'll be teaching Colonial Sabre (le Manhunt, et al.) at the local museum. Problem is that I have NO SAFE WEAPONS.

I need to make 40 foam/European LARP grade (I just assume that's a high quality thing) late sabres (so more straight than curved but with hand protection).

Please teach me how to foam smith or give me a few suggestions otherwise I'm tucked.

>t. dudewhooverpromisedandnowhastodeliver

>>9357919
Not much because you should be wearing a cervelliere. So maybe a medium sized beanie thickness. The other Anon speaking about 30 layers of linen might be accurate for some parts of the body in some cultures, but not here.
Unless you have a Slavic coif, in which case pad the duck out of it.

>>9348993
I have a square meter of vinyl, and I play a game which is pretty much medieval fantasy, so any costuming goes.


Any ideas what I could make guys?

>>9348993
Need an opinion from anybody from an European LARP.


I take part in a pretty large LARP; around 1000 people over 4 chapters. One guy has been making some pretty inventive stuff lately for noobs; really cheap armour ideas that aren't hard to make.


He had an idea of using sport bracers to make armour bracers. Used googley eyes to look like rivets, put on a base coat then sprayed it. THen he did something to fatigue the paint to make it look like battered iron. They look pretty average up close, but from even a few feet away they look really good. I'm not claiming they're a perfect solution, but he posted the design as a stop gap for noobs so they weren't rockin' around in black jeans and feeling excluded.


Anyway, he posted them to the facebook group, and most people were really supportive. Everybody thought it was an awesome idea for new players to do (you can bang them out for under 10 bucks) until they got real armour. But there was one chick who was claiming that it was a horrible idea. Among other things she claimed that European larpers would laugh at that. But from lurking these threads, you bros seem pretty open of people who are trying.


So anyway, if you saw a noob putting in a lot of effort to make their own armour, and it was decent, but very clearly homemade, what would you guys think?

>>9359888
You gonna be thrusting anon?

>>9359922
If its done well then I think its okay for kids to wear that stuff.

For adults and later teens, I dont really think its worth it unless you cant tell it apart from more real stuff when within talking distance.

And its more about economic sense to me. If you put off funds now for temporary stuff then it will just push your budget back and it will take longer to fund your goal equipment. Its practical when you are still in a growing body with limited pocket money but not as much when you have grown up and you personal economy comes down to either being able to afford everything or nothing.

I probably should have asked for pics first since its rude to judge something without knowing about it first (and vice verse for defending it).

>>9359922
I wouldn't say I'd advice doing it, rather more I'd just tell newer players not to want to start off in a lot of armour. There's so much more fun and interesting stuff you can do with cloth and a steady hand.

But if people want to wear armour and don't have the funds the first thing I'd tell them is not to do it.
Then, if they insist, your idea doesn't sound too bad. It depends on the rest of the LARP aswell, but in general I wouldn't advice most teen/adult LARPers into doing it.

>>9359888
Whats your budget? Do they need to look real? Do you have weight concerns? Are you going to thrust with them? How old are the students (for safety concerns) ?

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>>9359888
>1600's to 1700's
> Colonial Sabre
>Le Manhunt

I also work in 17th and 18thC living history museums teaching military history and fencing, and have done so for years.

What the hell is "le Manhunt"? What the hell is a "Colonial Sabre"? I have never once heard of these terms. What museum?

> recently started my own business teaching swordsmanship
>I need to make 40 foam/European LARP grade (I just assume that's a high quality thing) late sabres (so more straight than curved but with hand protection).

Pic is what I teach with for smallsword: Heavy epee on the left, river cane trainer with padded leather tip on the right.
>Please teach me how to foam smith
> HEMA

Why would you use foam simulators? They would act nothing like an actual sabre, and for safety, cost and practical application, a fencing mask and sabre would serve you better. Why wouldn't students coming to a HEMA class have their own? What are your qualifications?

I need more information because it sounds like you have no idea what you're doing or talking about.

>>9360152
Missed the keywords there clown boy
>over school holidays

Its children. Foam because the dumb asses will hurt themselves otherwise and then law suits.

>>9360158
>Because the only people who go to school, and only people who get time off during school holidays are children

> Foam because the dumb asses will hurt themselves otherwise and then law suits.

Ok, so lets start from the basics: You have no business or martial education background, or knowledge of fencing school legal coverage in your locality.

And you local museum greenlighted this, without consulting a lawyer or making sure you had a single idea of what you're doing?

You're really making no sense to me here bro. I hope you understand why I am having a hard time believing a single thing you're saying.

>>9356020
In the interest of discussion, how do you bring up issues like this with a larp organizer without sounding like an asshole?

>Excuse me, I noticed that there are other players who are playing character concepts that their disabilities make it difficult or impossible to act out. Having to constantly wait for them to catch up/pause combat for their panic attacks because they put themselves in situations that make them uncomfortable really breaks my immersion, and makes it difficult for me to enjoy the game.
>Woah what the fuck, are you saying this person can't play whatever they want? You exclusionary asshole!

My game has a fair number of Tumblr types, but at least they're aware enough to avoid putting themselves into situations that would cause shit like that. The ones with physical limitations play characters who don't rush into action, the ones with anxiety issues ask the staff if a mod is likely to make them uncomfortable before going on it, etc. Thank goodness for small mercies.

>>9356767
>riposte
Are you the guy who shared that story a while back about somebody winning a tournament without ever striking a blow by using his riposte ability?

>>9360160
Im not the op
Im just pointing out obvious things that americans would know
The amount of law suits is staggering
The musuem might be requiring foam weapons
Also, formal fencing schools and coverage do not always extend to separate events (I realize this is retarded but its USA baby)

>>9360182
With the current culture, read: Tumblr, its almost impossible. If you have some really cool organizers, you can talk to them but bringing up someones disability makes you an ableist bigot
However, if you are willing to shoulder the possible expulsion from the game, please actually do it. Standing up is hard as fuck, but it can really help

>>9360186
Gropes does this irl for a job. He knows what he's talking about.

>>9360189
Damned if you do damned if you don't.

>>9360182
Is there an anonymous suggestion box?

>>9360186
Thats great... I am actually a professional museum educator, and this guy is talking about something with a lot of holes in it. There are procedures and specific channels to go through for this very thing.

This kind of bullshit causes ripple effects in the industry, if he does something stupid.

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>>9357868
>The high-level meta for melee fighters is to just load up on as many possible uses for parry and riposte as possible.

I've found that this is the case in every larp that has parry or an analogous call in it. Been coming up with a list of rules for if I ever start a game of my own, and "no parries" is at the top of my combat rules. It always starts an arms race in games that have it, and the only way to win is by having more parries.

>>9360189
Thankfully I haven't had to deal with anything bad enough to merit that yet. Here's hoping it never happens.

>>9360235
> if I ever start a game of my own, and "no parries" is at the top of my combat rules.

And if I can physically parry you attack? For real, not abstracted rules.

>>9360240
No parry calls, you silly goose.

>>9360248
Just checking! I have been to a larp that actually had a rule that you cannot actively block shots with weapons or shields unless you had the skill. You could carry them, and hold them in place, but not actively move them while being swung at.

We left immediately.

>>9360254
>tfw you find a larp with a fantastic setting that's clearly been crafted as a labor of love, rules for interacting with the setting that preserve immersion, and a well-thought-out social structure that still allows plenty of creative freedom
>but it has weapon proficiency rules

>>9360372
>weapon proficiency rules
As in "you have to have levels to beat/parry" or "you have to have levels to use this weapon in the first place?"

>>9360235
There's really no worse thing you can do for game balance than allowing people to no-sell an attack or ability. No one likes getting disarmed or having their shit sundered, so if they can avoid it they absolutely will.

>>9360433
Pretty much what Gropey described. You can carry a weapon/shield you're not proficient in, but anything that hits it counts as hitting you, and you can't do any damage or strikes with it.

There is also proficiency in dual-wielding. So you can be a master fencer skilled in the use of every weapon possible... but if you haven't bought dual-weapon proficiency, then as soon as you pick up two swords at once you might as well be slapping your enemies with noodles.

>>9360569
This personally offends me. Like if someone was to kick my cat, insult my mother, and slap my lady's ass, all at once.

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>>9359924
>You gonna be thrusting anon?
Yes. Unless I can figure out a way to make foam small-swords as well...
>>9360100
>Whats your budget?
'Bout tree-fiddy. Seriously though? Looking at about $10-15 per unit.
>Do they need to look real?
Nope. Just convey the overall look.
>Do you have weight concerns?
I'm 75kg after falling for /fit/ and the SS meme. Otherwise no.
>How old are the students (for safety concerns) ?
They'll be between 12-15 on some days, Adults on others, and I don't think any will be younger than 10.
>>9360152
>What the hell is "le Manhunt"?
Autocorrect strikes again! Le Marchant.
>What the hell is a "Colonial Sabre"?
A period of time from 1788-1901 in my country. Bonus points if you can guess where. Hint: It's NOT the US.
>Why would you use foam simulators?
See >>9360158 and the above.
>Why wouldn't students coming to a HEMA class have their own?
Because it's not a class, it's an "Interactive Display and Demonstration of Martial and Cultural Heritage".
>What are your qualifications?
- HEMA three to four times a week (minus surgery recovery) since 2008 and taking classes as co-instructor since 2013.
- BA in Early Childhood Education and Development and Masters in Pedagogy.
- State champion for Olympic Lifting in 2011.
- 118+ hours of public demonstration for NFPs, local groups, fairs, festivals, and MC of private functions.
>>9360160
>And you local museum greenlighted this, without consulting a lawyer or making sure you had a single idea of what you're doing?
Pretty much. Nothing of this kind has been done in my state at this level of "official" before.

It's new to them, it's new to me. There is no precedent for what we're doing. Thankfully we're not as anal as some countries so we're a tad more "She'll be right/Fair Go" sort of thing.

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>>9360761
>A period of time from 1788-1901 in my country.
Whoops! That should be 1788-1850. Sorry.

>>9360761
>Unless I can figure out a way to make foam small-swords as well...
See my pic in >>9360152. Two pieces of heavy river cane for thatching, some waxed cord, a leather disk and a little leather pouch stuffed densely with wool tied to the tip. does the job fine.


>>Do you have weight concerns?
>I'm 75kg after falling for /fit/ and the SS meme. Otherwise no.

Anon means simulator weight, surely.

>Autocorrect strikes again! Le Marchant.
Autocorrect is carp.

>A period of time from 1788-1850 in my country. Bonus points if you can guess where. Hint: It's NOT the US.

Penal colonist are not allowed weapons.

>Because it's not a class, it's an "Interactive Display and Demonstration of Martial and Cultural Heritage".

You said teach. You're giving them simulators and teaching them a practice. That is a class.

>>9360761

>Do you have weight concerns?
>I'm 75kg after falling for /fit/ and the SS meme. Otherwise no
I meant for the weapon you knob. Do you need it to be a certain weight? Light as possible?

Anyways if you want cheap without concerns for making them look real, Id recommend carbon fiber core and camp mat foam
Cut the core to length, add some kind of tip protection (Anything from a little bit of kevlar to leather)
Cut out 2 pieces of camp mat, sandwich the core.
Use strong glue (usually pressure sensitive stuff)
Grind out the handle to be a bit more comfortable
From there you can Either leave it as is
(colorful and fun. Its what I used when I did similar for a camp I worked at) or spray paint them the right color.
You could also do something I saw esh-esh do and cover them with a tight fitting stretchy fabric. They tend to look a little better than paint

Hockey tape on the handle for grip and bam you got a weapon

>>9359888
My local uni fencing club has cheap "swords" to let students smack each other with during the introduction.

It's pvc tubing wrapped in insulation foam, held together by duct tape. If you're REALLY desparate you can be done in a day.

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>that feel when you try on a new helmet and it would be perfect if it wasn't crushing your nose.
Guess I can't go retake the holy land without a proper helmet.

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>>9360791
>Two pieces of heavy river cane for thatch-
Look pretty sweet, might consider when I build some singlesticks.
>Penal colonist are not allowed weapons.
mfw
>You said teach. You're giving them simulators and teaching them a practice. That is a class.
It's not a class per se; a lesson perhaps.

>>9360794
That's certainly one option. Cheers.

>>9360893
wew lad. I'll keep that one as a backup, but thanks.

>>9360761
I'll try explaining how we make our local foam weapons. They're thrust-safe, rather durable, (a little too) light and easy to produce and mend. Take notice you cannot make them curved so we're gonna settle for a... I think it's called Backsword?

Materials (about one sword)
*Cardboard
*A fibreglass core, 8/10mm is ideal for these lengths
*camping mattress
*duct tape
*Contact glue? If that's not the name I'll explain.
*Craft foam

Now, you first cut the fibreglass to the length you want. (Work with gloves!!) Be wary the sword will come out 5cm longer than the fibre.
After you got the fibre ready, you place the fibre on the cardboard, so the cardboard's edge and the 'meeting' of the blade and guard to-be will be in. You draw the blade's shape around the fibre, making sure there's at least 5cm space from the tip and 2.5cm from the sides. When pleased with the shape, cut.

Now, you draw that outline of the cardboard three times on your camping matress. Cut them all.

You take one of the pieces, and place the fibreglass on it, like you did with the cardboard. You draw the fibre's outline, and cut up until the 5cm tip (Don't cut tip!)

Now, you glue the 3 camp matress pieces with contact glue, when the fibre is in the gap we made in the middle piece. Leave it under press for a night.

The day after, you cover it with vertical silver duct tape. Make sure to place it gently and not squeeze the blade.

Last but not least: the handle. You first cut a used-up duct tape thing (the cardboardy circle) in half, and make two holes: at the top and bottom. You glue the top hole first, then give it some craft foam wraps and then glue the second.
I'm pre-coffee and just woke up so I just vomit text here. If anyrhing unclear ask

>>9360993
Forgot something important:
Before gluing the fibre to the shit, you wrap the tip with some foam and glue it. That so it can be stab safe and not fuck up the foam

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>>9360918
>Look pretty sweet, might consider when I build some singlesticks.

Far too thin and light.

>mfw
I am surprised you can even read.

>It's not a class per se; a lesson perhaps.

Class; noun
A gathering of individuals being instructed on the same skill or subject matter as a group.

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>>9360993
>>9360994
That's pretty detailed, cheers buddy.
>>9361136
>Far too thin and light.
Like your penis :^)
What I meant was that they'd make good smallsword simulators to COMPLEMENT some singlesticks (made differently). Keep it consistent you know.
>I am surprised you can even read.
I know! With your terribulgarian spelling I'm surprised as well.

>>9359922
>So anyway, if you saw a noob putting in a lot of effort to make their own armour, and it was decent, but very clearly homemade, what would you guys think?
Personally I would thing the dude is awesome and help him to make even better stuff. Also I would ridicule the bitch.
Then again there MUST be a level of standard, and even the noobs must reach it. If they can do that than no problem, if they can't then help them to reach it.

>>9360182
>In the interest of discussion, how do you bring up issues like this with a larp organizer without sounding like an asshole?
Anon, sometimes you must be the asshole who address the elephant in the room.

>>9360569
>Pretty much what Gropey described. You can carry a weapon/shield you're not proficient in, but anything that hits it counts as hitting you, and you can't do any damage or strikes with it.
hey, at least you can carry the stuff, not banned from even touching it.

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So, I got home from this weekend's larp and surprisingly got most of the pictures today too. Which isn't that surprising because not much pics were made, and most of those are made with a potato, so there is that.

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Also fun fact, there was another person from cgl at the game who we convinced after years of nagging to come play with us. That person at the end enjoyed the larp pretty much.

>>9362214
Damn, that looks comfy.

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and these were the better part and less blurry pictures

>>9362256
Comfy

What was the LARP about?
Seeing the garden and the house with its guest variety makes me think it was an episode of medieval fantasy Poirot.

>>9361648
>Gropey's dick
Is intimidating from what seagulls have reportednin gossip threads. Lots of piercings.

>>9362220
>>9362247
How do your sites always look so cozy? Here in Ameriland we just have church lodges and boy scout camps, often on the same property.

>>9362229
BLAT

>>9362251
CYkA BLAT

Does anyone attend any con LARPs?

If so, how was Katsucon's LARP this year?

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>>9362418
You're not far from the truth - the larp was about travellers stuck at a tavern set in a backwater mountain pass because of the recent weather. The mountain pass - because of its backwater nature - is mostly used by those who are either so much in a hurry that they have less concern for safety, or have something to hide, so from such a situation, tension springs naturally.
There were also a serious case of witches' curses and stolen hearts (literally) involved, but that's just details.

>>9362551
The vast majority of the sites we use are either simply forests and nothing else, or youth camps - it was very lucky that we found this site for our winter events, which serves both as a youth camp and a wedding venue. The owner is a really chill guy, and he built most of the camp (basically everything apart from a small section of the large building) by himself.

>>9362615
>>9362617
makin big biznis

>>9362232
>>9362236
Seeing people actually using Sword&Buckler in a LARP makes me shed an I.33 tear.

(It's very uncommon where I'm from)

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>>9362907
Well, the game was not about battling at all, so it made more sense for the characters (who were travellers rather than soldiers) to carry a more travel-convenient buckler than a fuckhuge shield just because muh combat minmaxing.

Pic related, I made a few bucklers like on >>9362236 out of foam PVC, plastazote foam and latex using my steel buckler as a mold for heat shaping.

Is it cool to ask for outfit advice, inspiration and the like here? Kinda stuck with designing mine

>>9362992
That's the shit we live for, anon.

What general aesthetic are you going for?

>>9363001
Basically I want to be the fanciest piece of shit swashbuckler you can think of. I was thinking either going with one of those pirate-y/captain-y coats but sleeveless, going Renaissance inspired for the Witchery vibe (Dandelion) or something Warhammery if they have any Swashbucklers/fencers?

The character is a young, inexperienced and filthy rich noble in a combat-oriented game (Gonna go with a Partisan/Glaive and perhaps some light plate armour for the big battles)

Don't know if this is necessarily the best place to ask about this, but whatever...


So I want to make a dice cup to take dice with me to events for gambling in taverns and what not, but I want it to be portable, something I could reasonably carry on my person, so no big, thick, heavy cups.

I'm not expert on dice and gambling and all that though, so like, how big does the cup need to be to be useful/actually toss the dice well? Probably going to be using 8 oz veg tan, and the dice are like normal size (16mm).


Any of you lot ever do something similar or have experience with such? What sort of ratio should I be aiming for between die size and cup diameter?

>>9359888
http://www.leonpaulfrance.com/sabre-en-mousse.html

Should find that in a us fencing store.

>>9362927
>I made a few bucklers like on >>9362236 out of foam PVC, plastazote foam and latex using my steel buckler as a mold for heat shaping.
GIVE ME YOUR SECRETS YOU MONGOLIAN BASTARD!

>>9363044
The cup I have for my gambling set is about 2.5 dice in diameter and about 4 dice deep
Its intentionally small as its a portable gambling set used in the field or on guard duty mostly. So similar that it has to fit into my pouch.
I use standard Yahtzee dice (or I did when I made it now have bone dice the same size) so I think the size is the same

>>9363044
>>9363401
Links to reasonably priced larpy dice please

I'm considering to make a dice poker set like the one in the witcher games. Would be fun to make lots of gold due to extensive bot practice.

>>9363417
Sorry, I get mine made by a hunter friend.
If you're US tho, amazon has lots

And do it. Scabing people's money through gambling is the best strat

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>>9362781
>that bardiche

>>9363015
Swashbuckler as in poncey, fashionable asshole, or swashbuckler as in pirate?
Because if it's the former, we can inundate the thread with landsknecht pics at a moment's notice.

>>9363044
Most I see online are 3"x3" cylinders. That seems portable.
I have an old backgammon set with an oblong cup that's more of a 3"x1"x2" tho.

>>9362453
Gropey's dick counts as a +2, holy mace.

>>9363500
I have plenty of Landsknecht photos. I need him to look richer and fancier than that. (Don't botoza me HLF)
As for your question, I use 'Swashbuckler' as a term for those characters like 3 Musketeers, Zorro etc. He does happen to have close relations with pirates though so taking some inspiration or even looking like a rich pirate works.

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>>9363383
No rocket science there - cut out a roughly oval flat shape out of PVC, heat it up to 70C, press on metal buckler, repeat if neccessary. Trim overhanging edges, glue foam to shield face and edge, add hard leather handle, latex front and optionally some canvas backing to hide the PVC, and you're done.

>>9363417
I've got a set of chessex d6 in an off white/ivory type color, they're slightly rounded edges, look good to me.
That's what I'm looking to make a cup for.

>>9363401
Thanks, that's the sort of info I've been looking for.

>>9363500
3" diameter just seems kind of fat to keep in a pouch or something. I've thought about a flattened backgammon one too, don't know how that affects things or what.

>>9364281
>don't know how that affects things or what
Do people other than autists really give a shit about that?

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I summon you, o great HLF
Please accept my humble tribute of this armoured qt

Would you mind sharing any pictures and/or videos of your Landsknecht group in a formation?
Thank you very much

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>>9361648
I /can/ spell, I am just a drunk. I know my limits, convict.

And I don't enter a dick swinging game with the unarmed.

>>9362229
Awesome as always, but you are just proving you associate with Slavs, and thus are slav yourself! HA!

>>9363417
What country are you in?

>>9364719
I have been appointed a honorary Slav twice so far, so I'm fine with that. It's just HLF who gets all triggered by that.

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>>9364677
the group is not mine, you get one pic because I'm stuck in an eternal dick forest with an open mouth and must praise for the omnissah to get out of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=639ukS7PuGc

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>>9364719
>Awesome as always, but you are just proving you associate with Slavs, and thus are slav yourself! HA!
I have no idea what you are talking about

>>9364728
May your BREEKI always be CHEEKI.

>>9363451
In EU, and ebay deals are rip offs.

>And do it. Scabing people's money through gambling is the best strat
I may include a cheat set of dice to skin fags with.

>>9364281
Wouldnt a metal cup be enough?

>>9364719
Sweden.
I just found a shop that has decent stuff in stock for decent prices (all I had to do was click page 2 on google, consumerism in this country is odd) so I'm good, but I wouldnt mind a more premium option over just a discrete modern dice set.

>>9364918
>Sweden
Yeah, you got better access. If you were US, I'd just send you a set of good wooden dice.

>>9348993
So Mad Matt is probably dead from cancer or something, what is a good place to get SCA-grade armor for cheap that's not some plastic shit, but proper plate armor? I'm looking for limb armor especially and gauntlets, and can't find anything similar to his stuff for cheap, and a great helm wouldn't be so bad as one of the visors that came with my helm doesn't work.

(The SCA bar visor is OK, but the eyes don't light up properly on the other visor that's full faced and historical, so I'd like a proper historical helmet for limited vision when I feel like being an authentic fag.)

BTW, anybody know of any really cheap Italo-Norman style helmets that are SCA approved?

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>>9364001
Cheers m8.
>>9364719
>I /can/ spell, I am just a drunk.
Not surprised, I'd be too living where you do.
>Convict.
Gurls luv a thug son.
>And I don't enter a dick swinging game with the unarmed.
That's alright, just foam-smith a replacement to bring with you :^)

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>>9366014
I am with Gropey. Aussies are cancer.

>>And I don't enter a dick swinging game with the unarmed.
>That's alright, just foam-smith a replacement to bring with you :^)

He called you unarmed. Do you comprehend?

>>9362992
>>9363015
>>9363661
A-Anyone...? ;_;

>>9366014
Are you an actual teenager, or just sensitive enough to get all huffy about being made fun of by the Big Mean Clown Man?

>>9365427
Bokalo and Illusion both stand out on the affordable end of things, though I don't know if the former is taking orders right now.
If you want to save up a bit, Windrose makes some if the best helmets I've gotten to try.

>>9366143
>Illusion
If I wanted armor for my grand children, I would have already ordered from them.

>>9351545
Any info on steel thickness?

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>>9366065
>He called you unarmed. Do you comprehend?
>implying he's not the unarmed one.
>>9366143
>Are you an actual teenager, or just sensitive enough to get all huffy about being made fun of by the Big Mean Clown Man?
One word: BANTZ.

Anybody know where to get a cheap churburg breastplate, come to think of it?

Dutch fag here, I'm looking for a good spot to pick up a brigandine. It doesn't seem all that common as an armour in LARP AFAIS, and it's decently hard to find.

If anybody knows a good (eastern)European producer which has them, preferably in a quality I could do SCA with it.
So far all I could find was the fellows who won the price at Battle of Nations as best armoury. But that's 370 Dollarydoos at best.

>>9366552
They're not cheap, ironically.
Loricamos and Forge of Svan are both Eastern Europe, and the latter does Corrazina brigandines.

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I have a latex weapon that has seen better days. i was thinking about painting and/or making some additions to it. should i bother trying to paint it or just leave it how it is?

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>>9366643
I'm sold!

Goddamn! Forge of Svan was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you kind anon for saving my day!

>>9366295
>implying he's not the unarmed one.
You can't just assume you imply that, when he's already made a fairly classy implication that you're the unarmed one.
>One word: BANTZ.
Your banter leaves much to be desired.You're not as witty as you think.

>>9366163
Good god, seriously. It's like ordering from Marco Danelli: absolutely excellent product for the price, but good fucking luck getting your lot before the eventual heat death of the universe.

>>9366689
Be warned, they're awful at communication. I got their gobelin gambeson for HEMA/SCA purposes, and it took a good two months past their expected delivery time. I'm not upset about that, but they also never quite communicated that it'd be late.

Also if you're set on a Corrazina, be sure to take some time and tinker with the chest strapping some; they tend to fit a little loose on the upper torso and open a little as a result. It's not dangerous, but IMO it's just a little bit of work that can make your kit look a lot tighter.

>>9366654
Is that dude wearing an FF white mage shirt?

>>9366295
>BANTZ
don't do this

History-related question:
What's the difference between a Breastplate and that breast+back plate combo? Like, why would you even use the former?
Is it from different centuries or anything? Who would use what?
Thank you!

>>9366736
>Your banter leaves much to be desired.You're not as witty as you think.
English isn't his first language so I'm keeping it simple for him.
>he's already made a fairly classy
>classy
Do you go to events in a fedora too?

>>9367060
To my knowledge a breastplate/backplate in conjunction is called a cuirass. Earlier breastplates often didn't incorporate a dedicated back plate because they were worn with fairly heavy mail and padding underneath anyway. The evolution of the complete harness is something that happened more or less organically.

>>9367010
>Good god, seriously. It's like ordering from Marco Danelli: absolutely excellent product for the price, but good fucking luck getting your lot before the eventual heat death of the universe.
I once asked how long it would take to make a simple fucking cuisse.

Answer was at least a year and a half, if not two.

>>9367060
People used single breastplates instead of cuirass (what a breast and backplate set is called) because it made sense.
>You are more likely to get hit on the chest area than in the back.
>If you get hit in the back, you are most likely dead anyway since that means you are surrounded or that you are a crappy soldier who doesnt have his face towards the enemy.
>Weight is important, the heavier the equipment the slower you get etc
>Cost is important, in an age where there are no machines or factories to do the heavy lifting there is only manpower that costs $$$

But a cuirass had its advantages and money was probably the only deciding factor between the two setups.
>complete protection
>weight balance. Having a big piece of metal hanging down along with your moobs obviously creates a negative balance. A backplate acts as a counterweight for a breastplate.

Armored combat is pretty interesting. You prioritize protection where you are most likely to get hit but you always end up getting killed by a wound where you werent protected (until you reach the point of armor evolution where you are practically invulnerable but the excessive weight ends up drowning you in mud instead).

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>>9348993
So I got sick of rockin' around in stage blacks and borrowed armour, so I started making chainmail a few weeks ago. But jesus christ this shit is time consuming with the European 4-in-1. Also, pic related has been the bane of my existence; can't get rid of it without fkn remaking that part of the chain.


Question though; how long should my strands me? I've been making them the width of my shoulders (largest part it'll have to fit over) but I'm not sure if that's correct and I'm doing more work than necessary.
Also, fuck, I think I'm the only chainmaille faggot at my larp who's actually making their own. I see people with store brought shit, and selling pieces for crazy prices. I may actually just knock out a few coifs and sell them at over a hundred a pop; people would actually buy them.

>>9367154
As always with chain mail, just book the entire year for it. That is how long it takes.

Expect unexpected pattern issues and fucked up armpits that will take a month to properly fix.

>>9367161
Yeah, I'm starting to get that. I was expecting this to take a few weeks max. Oh how young I was.

I'm actually just making a vest for now, so I can use it sooner, and just add on sleeves later.

Plus I have other arm and leg armour, and I want some links left over to make a coif. I'm planning to sell it and recoup some of the cash I spent on this shirt.

>>9367154
>Butted
Nigga I know a site where you could buy this for super cheap, and get riveted maille for a good price too.

>>9367191
I'm in Australia, so my options are pretty limited. But, link?

>>9367194
http://allbeststuff.com/

Indians make a shitload of maille that isn't that bad. I know a guy who ordered from here and his experience was great, and they're open to customizing it too.

>>9365427
As mentioned by others, Illusion is several years in wait list. Bokalo, Klang Armoury, etc are good. Your best bet is to get on the SCA facebook sale pages, or the Armour Archive forum. Which kingdom are you?

>>9366065
>>9366736
>>9367010
Don't feed the convicts.

>>9366320
Rough From the Hammer. Learn to peen a rivet.

>>9367010
>Is that dude wearing an FF white mage shirt?
I see a lot of FF white mage robes at local larps.

>>9367195
Thanks for the link man. But after shipping, making my own is still cheaper by a decent amount.

Shipping is a bitch here. But I'm probably gonna buy one of their helmets soon since they look fantastic. .

>>9367195
I got a butted hauberk from there as well, not the greatest but passable quality for some of the best prices I've seen. I was planning to adjust it anyway (since every seller seems to make hauberks way too big), so the downsides ended up working to my advantage.

>>9367195
>>9367205
Half the shit on their site is pictures of products from other companies, with their watermark slapped on it.

They claim "SCA armor" and not a single thing there would pass, much less survive a fight.

That site is one big red flag.

>>9367208
You should never buy anything but chainmail from them, and I wouldn't advise you to. I do know from experience however that by whatever means, their maille delivers. Indian riveted maille tends to actually be pretty high quality stuff. One of the guys in my group has a 15 year old hauberk made in india that has only lost a couple rings in the time spent fighting. Obviously it's not meant for fighting, but to tie a kit's appearance together.

So I just ordered a bascinet liner from Forge of Svan. Hopefully this turns out well. Was cheap and cost barely anything, but I don't know if it was a scam or not as the billing is weird.

>Merchant
>Protek Trading Services, Inc.

>>9367233
Welcome to the wild world of buying from the post-soviet bloc. I think all that residual communism is preventing them from putting together functional billing systems.

>>9367230
I think that's by virtue of proper mail being hard to fuck up. As a rule, though, anything wedge-riveted with flat rings should hold up to rattan reasonably well.

>>9367253
Keep us informed on how it turns out man, I'd love to hear another review before I spent 200 euros on a swaggin' brigandine.

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>>9349296
For the shoes I recently made I added a half an inch of seam allowance to every piece (including the sole). I probably trimmed that down as I was working on most of the shoe, but the toe turned out to be a bit tight. This probably won't be a problem if your shoes aren't as elongated.

picture for visual of seams

Anyone have pictures of good costumes that only use a gambeson and helmet for armor?

>>9366552

http://www.steel-mastery.com/en/brigandine-armour/brigandines

Decidedly more expensive than Forge of Svan but, y'know, lots of customisation and all that. Good quality and fine service, too.

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>>9367084
>>9361648
>>9366014
>>9366295

I want Australia to LEAVE

>>9367154
Best to go ahead and make up a shit load of closed rings ahead of time, then go ahead and make a tons of the basic 4 in 1 pieces. Like assembly line style.


Then you're just connecting a bunch of the 5 ring pieces together with 1 open ring each time and it will go by much faster.

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I was watching scholargladitoria on youtube yesterday and he mentioned fighting with a case of falchions. My current gear fits the period, but using a case has never been a thing on the battlefield. I normally fight with a poleax with my group, but am interested in testing it out in large scale battles. Any idea on the best tactics?

Been doing Arnis for 6 years, so I at least know how to fight with them.

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What should i buy for simple pants? And what clothes would be good incase it would begin to rain?

>>9368374
>What should i buy for simple pants?
>simple pants
>pants

Disgusting unless you're not making a medieval kit.

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Do you think my armor look good anons?

>>9368478
Still better than the leather "armor" at my local larp.

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>>9368485
>"leather"
What, as in, they can't even be arsed to get real leather? The lowest common denominator of LARP armor and they *still* half-ass it?

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>>9368501
No its real leather, but they'll count ridiculously thin leather as being "armor grade" I wore a vest like this under a shitty Indian cuirass and was once asked while taking the cuirass off for the night why I bothered wearing it since the vest "armor" didn't stack with the cuirass.

>>9368508
Ah. I'm very much familiar with that at my local LARPs as well. I suppose it's a bit more understandable when leather armor provides *less* protection than metal, but if they're not going to let an honest-to-goodness arming jacket count as armor, then costume leather certainly shouldn't count either.

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>>9368295
Donald McBane says:

>"Fauchions, are Wepons that no Perforn/ can get any Credit by, for whoever un-/derftandf the Back-Sword, muft be Mafter/ of them, & whoever are Spectators when/ thofe Weapons are made ufe of, have no/ Pleafure in seeing it, tho' single or double,/ by Reason there is but one Guard belonging to them, & he who makes ufe of/ them, & can fave his Knuckles without/ his Head is broake, may without controle/ fay, he was not his at all."

James Miller says little. With George Silver the closest he gets would be his "Dagger" section (English Ale-House "Daggers" are really short swords) of which he says:

>1. First know yt to this weapon ther belongeth no Wards nor gryps but againſt ſuch a one as is foolehardy & will ſuffer himſelf to haue a ful ſtabb in the face or bodye to hazard the geving of Another, then againſt him yõ may vſe yor left hand in throwinge him aſyde or ſtrike vp his heeles aftr yõ haue ſtabd him.

>2. In this daggr fyght, yõ muſt vſe cotynual motion ſo ſhal he not be able to put yõ to ye cloze of grype, becauſe yor contynuall motion diſappointeth him of his true place, & the more ferce he is in runnynge in, the ſoonr he gayneth you the place, whereby he is wounded, & yõ not any thing the rather endangered.

>3. The mannr of handling yor cõtynuall motion is this, kepe out of diſtance & ſtrik or thruſt at his hand, Arme, face or body, yt ſhal preſs vpon yõ, & yf he defend blow or thruſt wt his daggr make yõ blow or thruſt at his hand.

>4. Yf he com in wt his left legg forewards or wt the right, do you ſtrike at yt prte as ſoone as it ſhalbe wtin yor reach, remembring yt yõ vſe contynual motion in yor prgreſſion & regreſſyon according to yor twyfold gournors.

>5. Although the daggr fyght be thought a verye dangerous fyght by reaſon of ye ſhortnes & ſynglenes therof, yet the fight therof being handled as is aforeſaid, is as ſaf & as defencive as is the fight of any other weapon...

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>>9368295
>>9368550
So in summary just use it like you would a broadsword/backsword & dagger, which is:
>Parry with your sword
>if they're close enough stab with dagger (or cut with falchion)
>If they're a little further away, attack the closest part of them e.g. Forearms, thigh, etc.
>If they're further away still, after parrying with primary weapon suppress with secondary then attack with primary as above.
>Circle to their right to crowd them
To defend against pole-arms and two handed weapons, just do what Swetnam, Fabris, and Giganti say.

t. australiam

Does anyone use aluminum chainmail? I got a new hauberk but anytime I touch it my hands come away completely grey. I've bought steel chainmail before and never had this much of a problem with rub off. Is this just a thing with aluminum or is this something that will eventually work itself out as it gets used more?

>>9368295
The two swords thing was generally seen as more of a sallet art than anything particularly practical in a melee. That being said, Marozzo wrote that two swords could absolutely fuck someone up, and I've found that Marozzo's sidesword stuff works for goddamn everything so I'm inclined to trust him.

>>9368550
>>9368552

TL;DR just do the exact same shit you'd be doing anyways with kali/escrima/arnis longarms.

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About to do a pre-wash on these wool fabrics.

Should I use conditioner/washing powder or just stick to plain water and the "wool" setting?

>>9368522
Thats one of my huge pet peeves.
I wore my proper gambi to a larp event and got laughed at when I asked why thin leather counts as armor and it didn't.
I understand the confusion to anyone who does know history at all but its still hilarious to me

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>>9362644

I go to my local con kotoricons larp room by mystic realms every year and its so fun. They let you become npcsif you want to.

I also went to animenexts larp but it wasn't exactly my thing. It was more rp oriented, infact it was only rp.

Is there any big larp festivals on the northeast coast? Like from nj to nyc and in particular medival and apoc.

so in what order would a person buy armor in the 1500's?

I assume helmet as a given, followed by torso protection. After that though, would it be personal preference or based on your weapon?

>>9368620
>>>9368550
>>>9368552
>TL;DR just do the exact same shit you'd be doing anyways with kali/escrima/arnis longarms.
This.
This is LARP not HEMA

>>9369140
Well, it's also just that there are only so many ways you can swing a sword. Escrima and arnis in particular are based on Iberian vulgar fencing (esgrima), which is very similar to other cut-and-thrust fencing around Europe.

Also yeah just fight how you want. We're nerds in a field playing with sword-shaped foam slabs.

>>9369065
>padding for the body
>padding for the head
>helmet
>gauntlets
And congrats, you're the average Witcher bandit. Add more stuff as you see fit.

>>9368566
Is it oiled up or something?

>>9369176
>Escrima and arnis in particular are based on Iberian vulgar fencing (esgrima)
No.

>>9369327
Doesn't seem to be, my hands never come away from it oily just grey. I rubbed it down for an hour straight and that didn't make a dent in the grey rub off.

>>9369412
I have no idea what is going on with your maille. Maybe its some after treatment coating or something.

Anyway, try rubbing it with lemon juice (pressed). Its good for aluminium if it gets in to a chemical reaction. Or wait for someone more knowledgable with aluminium chain mail.