Indie Lolita Thread

I'm personally looking for some accessories, and I love supporting indie artists. I'll start out with a little dump.

>>9339891
Voodooodolly, maker of beautiful gothic jewelry, hats, and other accessories.

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>>9339893
Lily of the Valley (SakuraFairy on etsy). I love her hats, but her jewelry is cute too.

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>>9339900
TejaJamilla. Her tights are so cute.

>>9339900
>tfw you miss her mushroom tights again because so busy with deadlines

Why does this happen to me?

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>>9339913
pinkabsinthe. Her stuff leans slightly steam punk, but she has motifs that are harder to find, like bugs and bees.

>>9339935
I'm wearing a pair right from the last set right now. You might send her an email and see if she can squeeze another pair into her order. I know last time she had extras.

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>>9339936
Lady Sloth, designer of skirts, JSKs, blouses, and boleros. Does custom sizing.

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Linda Friesen, aka 4'O Clock has absolutely amazing sewing skills and you can pretty much ask for a custom dress from her. She also posts her own designs on Facebook and you can contact her if you want one of them.

Not sure how active it is, but I know that some gulls formed the Gothic and Lolita Anonymous (GALA) group on Etsy if you're interested in shopping from fellow gulls.

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My shop does more than just lolita but I have lots of pieces that go well with lolita.
Un-Re Designs

>>9339986
What is the general price range of her dresses?

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>>9339996
yes! we may like to spread to other platforms for those without an Etsy shop. it might be nice to have a shared blog to repost updates from our individual blogs, or a Facebook group for whoever would not mind to be known as a seagull.

shops involved include:

UnResAttic >>9340396 who already posted

GhastlyGear (me). started because nobody had interesting masculine gothic shit for sale at local cons. branched out from there. i make (resincast or assemble) a range of accessories in different styles but gothic & ouji/lolita are my core demographics. my shop is mostly old stuff right now (pic related). message me if you would like to be added to the GALA Etsy team.

others (copy+paste these names plus .etsy.com to get to their shops):

ImaginaryTailoring
JellyUltra
CosWorks
SquidhouseDesigns
hexengarten
TwoDaysSlowShop
DreamCathedral

a couple of us are tabling together for an upcoming con in our area. we will probably post about it in a relevant thread.

i give seagulls freebies and/or discounts. made a coupon for Secret Santa giftees that you all can use: SANTAGULL2017, 10% off that is good until Christmas this year. i also do 6% off for June ILD and 12% off for December ILD. i have no idea if these stack but you can try when the time comes

non-GALA indie brands that have not been mentioned yet that are cool:

>Ikemen Mode
American Ouji brand. i have a jabot from them; it was worth the price. their long gilets also fit over petticoats (saw a lolita try one on). if you follow Life's Sweet Essentials blog, this is her brand with "Grandpa Ouji"

>Martha Rotten
unique metal jewelry in natural/macabre styles. hand-casts like Voodooodolly so often pricey.

>Moss Marchen
mix of assembled jewelry and handcrafted accessories. branching into enamel pins

>Hysteria Machine
crazy detailed OTT gothic things. some of their stuff is hand-cast. basic components seem to be purchased but altered/assembled in crazy unique ways.

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>>9340689
she rarely updates her shop but god damn I love Jelly Ultras work

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>>9339959
I was pleasantly surprised by Lady Sloths quality. The prices are also very low for western indie. However her early pieces do sometimes suffer from odd fabric choices.

>>9339986
Linda Friesen is amazing. I don't own anything of hers but I have seen one of her custom made dresses in person and it's exquisite. Such nice quality fabrics, good construction and sturdy.

>>9340404
Expensive. She isn't doing much lolita now but she is listed as couture.i expect it to be more than brand easily.

>>9339936
THANK YOU for this post.

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Linda Friesen is my favorite too. Her website has been dead for ages tough. I also wonder about her exact price range, why doesn't she just list prices?

>>9340929
I think she doesn't list most of her prices because so much of it is bespoke. Her Lolita dresses range from around 400 Euros for something very simple, upwards. She's very active on her facebook page, with her 4'O'clock stuff having been merged onto her Linda Friesen page. She's focusing a lot more though at present on her catwalk / high fashion stuff more than the Lolita, although she still will make Lolita pieces for people.

Does anyone know of a shop that makes socks? Not tights, but lace topped socks. I was browsing Etsy and couldn't really find anything. I think there'd be a decent market for them, particularly for girls with long legs and/or thicker calves.

How is Sweet Mildred's garment quality? I'm considering buying a dress from her.

>>9340935
Not sure about her garment quality but I got a headpiece from her that was too damaged to wear, she had taken months to get it to me so I didn't even have protection anymore, very disappointed

>>9340929
An anon in the mail thread got one of her pieces, and it's absolutely gorgeous. She said she got it secondhand, so I'm hoping I can be so lucky with one of Linda's dresses.

>a gull can dream

>>9340689
>Martha Rotten
I've never heard of her before, her stuff is gorgeous!

Also, you were one of my secret santas and you made me a rose necklace. Your stuff is great!

>>9340876
Same about LS. I got her Lace series OP and its stunning in person.

>>9340689
How do I join GALA? Or find it?

>>9341041
>>9340689
>message me if you would like to be added to the GALA Etsy team.

>>9341043
Whoops, my eyes skimmed right over that sentence. Sorry!

>>9341026
Martha Rotten is amazing! I learned of them because Lolita Collective started carrying their stuff online

>>9339936
I like pinkabsinthe, but very few of her things are lolita, and those that are are mostly gothic

>>9340876
>LS prices very low for western indie
this may be because she's polish. the złoty exchange rate is favorable to just about anywhere, and being an American who's lived in Kraków it makes a huge difference in buying power

>>9340929
>tfw I didn't commision her for my wedding dress
what the fuck was I thinking...

>>9339959
Great quality for the price! I have a blouse from her and I'm definitely going to purchase more in the future.

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Not exactly lolita specific, but I picked up a hat from Ever Crumbly and Witch last year to top off my Halloween coord and holy shit it was gorgeous. Wore it to on Halloween and Salem and I couldn't walk 6 feet without someone asking me where I got it (which is saying something considering half the people in town had witch hats on). Highly, highly recommend for people looking at gothic or classic witch hats--particularly if they are looking for more unique colors or themes.

>>9341068
Damn that's beautiful.

>>9341068
in salem*

>>9340934
LolitaButiken has them

Anyone know what's up with Chiffonrose/Mulberry Chronicles web shop? they took a break for the holidays, which I get, but then the site went down completely.

>>9341068
I think they have an Etsy.

>>9341101
It looks up to me, just everything is sold out.

>>9339996
This is fantastic considering all the mislabeled Lolita on etsy.

>>9340932
Do you know any examples for what her custom wedding dresses go for? Of course it's going to depend on how complex the design is and the materials but I'm wondering about a rough estimate. Like 1000 euros? 2000 euros? More?
>just message her anon
>I knowww but I'm a pussy and would feel like shit about backing out if it turns out to be too expensive for me

>>9341216
I don't think it's unreasonable to message her for a quote with your budget. It doesn't sound like you'll be offensively low or anything

>>9340935
I have a jsk from her that is pretty decent. But the shirring in the back is very bulky since she didn't add enough rows.

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ShyLapin on Etsy

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StarGlazedDelights on Etsy

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>>9341290
So glad she is doing an AP version.

>am AP slut

Is it just me or are all the good affordable brands in the US?

>>9341301
Who do you have in mind in particular?

>>9341296
I don't like the yellow on that pink. I feel like it needs to be a deeper gold color with such a pastel pink.

>>9341380
That's just a mockup. I believe it will be made similarly to the Baby brand whore one.

>>9341296
Wish she would work better on the type. Looks really sloppy.

>>9340935
I have a dress from her. My one complaint is that she sewed the buttonholes for the adjustable straps horizontally on the bodice of the jsk, so the buttons constantly slip out. The dress is fully lined, though, which is nice, and the fabric's a thick weight cotton.

Does anyone know how long it takes for Haenuli to relist something? I missed out on the Story you don't know and the Librarian Lady. I see they have a second pre-order up for Just one Bite when the first was in November. Sorry if this is off topic, but Lolibrary is down

>>9341101
Join her email list. She had reservations up a couple weeks ago but they sold pretty fast

Lady Sloth. Her Lace OP is gorgeous.

>>9341290
I'm kind of iffy about liking these. I like them because ~lol cgl memes~
But just like it's frowned upon in AA to use game or anime logos, I feel the same about these. The are pretty much just rip offs of already existing logos

>>9341301
It's generally cheaper to manufacture in the US than in Europe. Also cost of living is less in many places in the US.

>>9342067
It isn't resisting it is rereleasing. She also already said no to doing that one again.

Anyone have any reviews, good or bad, for indie designers they've purchased from? How long did shipping take? What was the packaging like? What was the product like? Were you satisfied with your purchase?

>>9342144
A lot of the indie designers take a while to ship.

I've actually gotten commissions from people before that had another artist fail to produce the item in time, so they asked me to do it last minute. I really recommend getting items through Lolita Collective if there's something you want that they have available. For example Restyle has restocking problems and problems shipping on time, but the same item will be in stock in Lolita Collective and they ship quickly.

Haenuli is always stellar at getting her things out on time. Sweet Mildred took a little longer to ship than I liked, but I received my item fairly quickly. A. Gato Designs is a beast and has worked with me making incredulous deadlines. I've mostly avoided buying online from anyone else because of the flakey stories I've heard, but I love to buy things in person or from Lolita Collective.

>>9342078
>>9341037
>>9340876
I'm considering getting a brown blouse from Lady Sloth but $72 shipped for a blouse is kind of blowing my mind. Are they that much better than say, an Infanta blouse?

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>>9342144
I ordered from Elegy once and it took fucking ages to ship. While I'm somewhat sympathetic to that as it's just a one man business I also wasn't super pleased with what I got. The soft bonnet I got was nice, the headbow was fine but the clip to attach it to my hair is so small that I almost can't get it to stay on unless I'm wearing a wig and the OP that I ordered which she did custom sizing for (aka I gave her my exact measurements) was far too big and looked so bad I never wore it out and couldn't even bring myself to sell it to anyone else. Maybe I should've expected it with this degree of sack dress, but the way the dress curves inward at the end just looks bad with a petticoat..

>>9342282
I've heard either stellar things about Elegy's commissions, or things like this. As an additional note, I believe she has chronic illness, and cannot work on things as often as she'd like due to this.

>>9342268
>$72 for a new blouse is mind blowingly expensive
lolita may not be fore you...

>>9340689
I messaged DreamCathedral around halloween and she said she had a big update planned but I keep checking her shop and nothing new comes out.

>>9342424
for*

>>9342424
I have exclusively bought secondhand up until this point and haven't paid more than $100 for a main piece yet. Its hard for me to justify the price of a main piece for my wardrobe.

>>9342431
is there a reason you aren't buying second hand for this blouse? need a particular size or color you won't be able to find? because there is your justification right there. sometimes you have to spring for quality base pieces to fill out your wardrobe... it's just part of caring about clothes.

>>9342440
I've been looking for a classic long sleeved blouse in brown and haven't loved anything that's popped up. Her blouses are just so beautiful, I think I'll have to bite the bullet and just do it.

>>9342443
If you can I would. I've never once regretted buying the exact right blouse I needed

>>9342447
Thanks for enabling me, anon. Hope you find your dream dream at low price.

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>>9339891
Saw this brand on Lolita Updates. Accessories were good too, but look at these bags! Anybody ordered from them before?

puvithel (dot) etsy (dot) com

>>9342082
My feelings exactly!

>>9342344
I'm not too salty about it, especially not the waiting time but I just don't think I'd recommend her to other people.

>>9342492
Not a huge fan of the jewelry (a little too chunky for my taste) but those bags are cute.

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>>9339891
A. Gato Designs
Shilen . Etsy . com

Has a new deer print series called King of the Forest.
Lots of customization available for each piece
Also carries other simple one off designs and accessories

>>9342492
Her jewelry is really cute in person. Have bought a couple of things at cons and always pleasantly surprised by the quality.

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>>9339900
Thank you for the mention, you are so sweet!

>>9339935
I'm sorry! I will have some extra for Omnia Vanitas, and if they don't sell I'll make them available afterwards.

I am also working on more outside manufacturing, specifically getting jsks and dresses made. If that works out then the mushroom jsk will be the first to be offered and I will be doing a final preorder for the matching tights.

>>9339946
Ooh my gosh! It just makes me so so happy to see and hear about people wearing them! Haha, I hope you like them.

And since self posting is apparently allowed, here is a recent custom headdress to match Chess Emblem.

>>9342719
Cringefest.

>>9342426
I ordered some things from her and it came with a ton of freebies! Been meaning to get more but she doesn't have a whole lot up right now. She really underprices her work too.

>>9342866
While the styling isn't great in that pic, the quailty isn't bad. I had the chance to see the items in person and they craftsmanship is fine.

>>9342881
semi-related, were you at KamiCon last weekend anon? I saw these looks there in the fashion show. Was kind of surprised to see KamiCon have designers, even if they were all b-tier designers.

>>9342919
>b-tier
seems like d-tier desu

>>9342925
Lol fair enough, still though this is /Alabama/.

>>9341380
its going to be gold metal lol

>>9342492
those bags are ita

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>>9342492
every time i see these things, i see mike wazowski with a huge droopy ballsack...

>>9343037
I can never unsee this wtf

>>9342719
Paulina I know selfposting is encouraged in this thread but your work isn't good. Sorry.

>>9342719
Yea, lurk more before trying to become a 'brand' this doesnt look good at all.

>>9342919
Yeah it was the first time there were designers involved. I think Mossbadger was supposedly invited too but had another engagement. I'm hoping if anything it will pave the way for other designers to be featured or come to Kami. Con really needs a fashion track.

>>9342492
I love the embroidery but the base material the bags are made of makes them look cheap, like glorified tote bags.

>>9342719
no thanks

>>9342881
Craftsmanship is important but if the designer has bad taste (not picking fabrics with tiny busy repeating patterns meant for quilting is lolita sewing 101) then it's not going to matter. Just look at Dolldelight. Nothing glaringly wrong with her craftsmanship but her material choices make her dresses ita as fuck anyway.

>>9342927
>Alabama
...oh dear.

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>>9342719
>paying $260 for this
Girl.

>>9343312
Ehh. If someone posted that on LSC I'd be mildly impressed but as something sold by an indie brand? Nah. If you're going to be selling your work, especially for a price like that, you have to make sure your quality is top notch. This looks like an amateur's hobby project.

>>9343310
She's not from Alabama, she just came to the con.

>>9342719
I've been trying to think of something nice to say but I'm struggling. At least there's potential here? A good first try?

>>9343314
Yup I agree. If she was selling these dresses for ~$50 then I'd have no complaints. But all of her dresses range from $200-$350... for that price you can actually buy quality pieces from Haenuli. This is entry level work at best. Her shameless self-promoting is so cringe. It's even more cringe to say she's in my comm.

>>9343312
Fhuuuck that print is ugly. It looks like a logo for some sort of hunting gear company. Why are there so many dedicated seamstresses with horrible taste in prints?? This would have been...fine in plain black.

>>9342864
>don't sell I'll make them available afterwards
Bless you anon.

>>9342492
I much prefer her jewelry, especially her hair pieces. Her dresses are nice but way too expensive for how they seem to fit.

>>9343560
>>9343638
I'm not a seamstress and I don't have my own brand or anything, but is there a legit reason for pricing so high? Is it just how much it costs for materials, ordering the fabrics, etc? Like if they dresses were 50-150 or so would they really not make any money from it? I'm just curious about how it works. Like maybe it's not a "My work is worth this much" kind of thing as much as it ~has~ to be that kind of thing? But that being said wouldn't it make more sense to have a lower price that maybe more people would buy it?

Can anyone who has a brand comment on this?

>>9343690
Generally, the price of a hand made item is materials+(timeXwage).

So for example, if you make a dress, you'd include the price of materials (let's say $50), plus your time (let's say 4 hours) multiplied by what your "hourly rate" is. If you are a world renown seamstress who has a degree in textiles and merchandising, maybe your hourly wage is $200. If you're a self taught seamstress whose friends say you should sell your stuff, maybe your hourly wage is $20.

In this case, this designer either takes a long time to make her dresses or believes her hourly wage should be very high. That's where the price comes from.

>>9343714
Thank you for the response!

>>9342864
Mushroom JSK!! I'm so excited anon! Please offer high waisted skirts as well!

>>9341288
Overpriced and full of bubbles.

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Peppermint Fox is doing a made to order of some of their brooches from tomorrow until next week.

>>9343714
I also wonder if she's not being smart in sourcing her materials and using spoonflower fabric which is really expensive for what it is. So 4 yards of fabric at $20 a yard is $80 just for fabric. Add in $20 an hour at 5 hours of work and you have $180 right there without including lining and notions.

>>9344053
speaking of pepfox, anyone know what hbj is up to?

>>9344086
Trolling this thread probably

>>9343874
nice meme

>>9344086
I'm assuming they're laying low and hoping people will forget how they publicly embarrassed themselves? I bought something from them before it blew up and I can't bring myself to wear it now, the cringe is still so real.

>>9344053
My Pepfox brooches are so poorly made and are way overpriced. I regret buying from them.

>>9344101
Same.. the first flower child design was cute and original then it just went downhill.

Has anyone ever bought anything from Dollbe? Her stuff seems kinda pricey for how simple her dresses look but I've always been curious about the quality/feel/fit

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Anyone else here like Kawaii Goods?

>>9344104
Even that was sort of in the style of the Pepfox style of brooches but at least it was an original idea.

>>9344108
I'm sick of this fucking meme

>>9344108
Their stuff is so cute

>>9343312
I'm not really seeing anything wrong with this? Leave it to cgl to find something to shit on when it's actually a really cute design.

>>9344114
Nice try

>>9344098
>>9344111
>4chan
>no memes
k

>>9344111
You could have probably left a comment without resorting to cursing, just for future reference

>>9344118
>4chan
>no cursing
.........k

>>9344116
This would literally be fine for otome, and if it were posted in a different thread and put out by like IW nobody would be shitting on it?

>>9344101
Wait what did they do?

>>9344103
I wore one of my brooches once and it got a little rain on it. Completely ruined the design.

>>9344125
Filled an entire Lolita general thread (300+ comments!) white knighting themselves and trying to prove they didn't rip off Jetoy in their last release. It just went on forever and it was so embarrassing to watch.

>>9344128
screenshots or pics?

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Totally not copying Jetoy

>>9344135
Ohhhh those people.. yeah that was a bit of a cringefest
Did they ever apologize??

>>9344137
Lmao no

>>9344140
That's fucking sad, jeez

>>9344123
The fabric looks like it could be purchased at Walmart, dude. It's sad because I actually think their stuff looks pretty good construction wise, which counts for a lot, but they really made a mistake when they picked such a generic, repetitive print. I hope they learn from this and improve.

>>9344132
The entire thread is archived for eternity, enjoy

archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S9205343#p9206193

>>9344145
jfc what a train wreck

>>9344126
Yeah they can't get wet

>>9344162
Wish I had known that before they were touched by the tiniest amount of water

>>9344180
Unfortunately I found out the same way

>>9344126
Yikes. Pics? I'm curious about how bad the damage is.

>>9344242
I'm curious too. What are their brooches made of?

>>9344162
It would be responsible of them to list a warning... I mean I make resin items and specifically state that resin shouldn't be left in direct sunlight. People appreciate honest sellers and it's how you get repeat customers.

>>9342082
i mean thats kind of the joke anon

>that said, i dont like them either. i dont feel comfortable wearing curse words on clothing because my parents raised me better than that

>>9342282
What are your measurements anon? I'll buy it off you if you still have it

Automatic honey update when

>>9344242
I've already posted pictures on my Facebook, I would post them here but I don't want to be outed by my comm. The brooch is unsalvageable though :(

>>9343714
>>9344079
Is it really normal to only need 4-5 hours to make a dress? I'm just a hobbyist, not planning to start a brand, but even if I have lots of free time it takes me at least a few days to make a OP. The only thing I could finish within a day would be a simple skirt or something.

>>9344123
Are you new to lolita or just Jfashion in general? That dress would be laughed out of any otome thread and if it showed up on IWs website people would be wondering wtf they were smoking to produce something so subpar. This is why people think most handmade lolitas are ita. Even the ones with decent construction often have no clue how to design a lolita dress.

Indie creator here, possible questions to other creators or just opinions from anons.

I have a small following but I would like do some promotional stuff. There are two ideas I have in mind. First is maybe doing a sponsorship with a popular-ish jfash social media user. I have people approach me to ask if I will sponsor them but they never have a good amount of interaction from their follows. I get randoms who have 11k ghost followers, but then average around 100 likes per post. What is a good number of likes per post to aim for when choosing someone? Since lolita is a niche hobby, I wont expect something in the thousands. But I'm unsure of what to aim for and if something is too low. Is 400 likes average a post too low? I'm not sure.
It also sucks because quite a few popular girls run their own etsy stores/etc, so would it be rude of me to ask them to promote my store when they have their own?

Another idea I have is to give promotional coupons if you buy something from my etsy store and leave an honest review, then next time you purchase you can use the coupon. I want to do this so I can get a few more reviews obv. I have some but I feel like I should have more. Is this possible through etsy? I was thinking maybe a coupon code I send to customers. If that code gets leaked out then maybe warn people I will refund their order if they use it and they haven't previously purchased+leave a review?

Any opinion is appreciated !

>>9344079
It's silly bc I saw that exact fabric on the Joann's site for very cheap.

>>9344310
I would say 4-5 hours for a simple JSK you already have the pattern for is reasonable for a seamstress.

>>9344570
>What is a good number of likes per post to aim for when choosing someone?
You shouldn't base it on likes per post but the percentage of engagement. I've heard that 3-4% is normal for people with a high follower count. Ideally you'll look for someone with more than that.

Etsy does allow you to do coupon codes. You can do a unique code for each person that orders from you. If it gets leaked then it doesn't matter since it only had one use. Sometimes I share coupon codes with friends after I order if I'm planning to place another one soon. I think trying to restrict who uses it by refunding their order will come off badly.

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>>9344252
They do state that. I'm not sure if it was added after these anons made their purchases but there is a warning under every brooch.

>>9344310
I was just using that as an example to illustrate my point. I'm not a seamstress, so I don't have a good sense of how long it would take.

>>9344310
It doesn't take very long at all once you get into a rhythm, learn how to make a gathered skirt, then browse your local craft stores for patterns. Find a dress pattern with a bodice you like, make the bodice and pop it onto the skirt and voila; in 4-6 hours you have yourself a dress. If you have the time and some extra funds I'd highly recommend getting into making dresses, it's a lot of fun and really rewarding.
>and then if you get really good you can open a shop and make that sweet $$$

>>9344619
>already have the pattern for
Oh yeah that makes sense, I always mess around with the pattern a lot so that makes everything take much longer, and have never re-used a pattern. If you've made a particular dress before it probably gets easier and faster.

>>9344570
I run my own shop and I've also been sponsored items by other shops. Unless it's a shop that sells items almost exactly like mine, then I don't mind at all. For instance enamel pin creators often send each other their work, even though they're all enamel pins they use it as networking and a way to find friends.

>>9344703
Maybe they shouldn't assume a thin layer of modpodge is enough to protect their product? I feel like I've wasted money and I'm salty.

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>>9344336
The vendetta is so real. IW literally has a dress like this on their website up for reservation right now.

>>9344849
If you can't tell the difference between the other dress and the IW one then I don't think lolita is the fashion for you.

>>9344849
How many people have to comment on the ugly jo-anns fabric before you understand, anon?? Are you a nuanced troll?

>>9344849
gurrl if you think that hideous, overpriced sack dress is comparable to innocent world you desperately need to lurk more

>>9344849
If you can't tell the difference in design and construction between that IW dress and >>9343312 then I really have to wonder how ita your coords are.

>>9344849
>fitted bodice
>box pleated skirt
>delicate yoke detailing
>original print fabric
>a little over $200

>>9343312
>universally unflattering sack cut
>clunky, unappealing details
>cheap Joanns quilting cotton with obnoxious print
>$260

>>9344849
Is this the designer posting and being delusional about how the dress looks? Like when people picture their own creations in their head and then when they make it they still "see" it how it looked in their head?

>>9344889
>mention how Pepfox came into thread and tried defending themselves in a cringefest
>history is repeating itself

>>9343037
Maybe that's why there isn't a neon green colorway XD

>>9343690
Custom fabric is 20$/yd + and lolita can take up to 3 yards for once piece. That's quite a lot in material cost without considering anything else. I know fabric stores charge 10-15$/yd, though maybe indie people have some wholesale hookup?

>>9344086
who's hbj?

>>9344570
do not pay for Facebook advertising unless you choose for your target 'fans and friends of fans' only! otherwise you get bot likes

Tea parties and lolita events look for sponsors. You can get a fair amount of promotion with the larger events that way.

Sponsoring a popular jfash person can have mixed results, and sometimes be negative. Do a lot of research on the person first.

oh, Lolita Updates on facebook gets you a lot of sales. You are allowed to self-post there with moderator approval.

For etsy coupon codes, you can have expiration dates on them, to avoid too many issues.

>>9344942
wait when?
>tfw im always here but somehow miss the good shit

>>9343690
Lolita dresses have a lot of material, anywhere from 3-5 yards depending on how fancy it is (and how much gathered ruffles you want), and like >>9344952
Said, custom fabric isn't cheap unless you're swinging some kind of deal. Some of the most expensive parts of a good lolita dress are the trims and lace. I can get away with dropping $35- $50 worth of fabric on a dress but it's always the amount of lace I need that makes my wallet cry, especially if you want to mimic APs gathered lace look.
On top of all of that whoever made the dress is also putting hours upon hours worth of work into making the dress.

>>9344963
Link to clusterfuck at: >>9344145

>>9344968
No that was HBJ

>>9344952
To be honest I wish indie brands would focus more on design and quality construction with solid colour pieces before jumping into custom fabric. I've seen so many 'brands' release dresses with questionable construction and awkward cuts and ask $250 because their custom fandom/meme print fabric was $50/yard. A handful of people will buy it because they're friends or because "muh neon pirate zombie bats aesthetic" but in the end they rarely break even and you practically never see the dresses incorporated into decent coords.
None of the established Japanese brands started out with prints. Why do indie designers think they can just skip a few steps in their brand's development and go straight to AP's current level? That's not how it works.

>>9344953
Hello Bones Jones

>>9344953
Hello Bones Jones, they made some cute jewelry but it turned out they ripped off other artists even for their more "original" releases.

>>9344974
Plus they paid for advertisements on /cgl/, which is pretty retarded if you're going to be ripping off other indie artists who are well known on here. Seagulls aren't exactly known for their tolerance of knockoffs.

I noticed that the HBJ drama killed off the resin threads. I think she scared off most of those people that were posting their shit for fun because they didn't feel original enough and didn't want to be torn apart by the board.

>>9344980
I know for a fact HBJ's trolling killed off those threads, which is sad because they were filled with a lot of good information.

>>9344988
Luckily the archived threads are still up but it's sad. I loved seeing what people made but it's hard to post anything if you're afraid of someone ripping you when you're just trying to enjoy your hobby.

>>9343312
>>9344849
Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect?

>>9344980
That's kinda silly though. HBJ didn't even get that much shit when she was just copying Pepfox, it was when she completely overhauled her art style to mimic Yetoy that people really started ripping into her. As long as you're not blatantly copying another artist you should be fine.

>>9344988
What do you know? Why is your information an 'insider fact'?

>>9344993
Around that time you could see some anons posting work and some other anon going off and naming all of the famous indie brands that did whatever they did first. No other reason than to make them feel shitty. Called out any portraits as being mossbadger wannabes, etc.

>>9344993
Yeah but the fact that she overhauled her entire style proved she was nothing but a copy cat. Only when she copied Jetoy did that become clear.

>>9345000
As someone who (did) follow her art pages, the rest of her stuff seemed to stay the same. It was just that one bizarre group of stuff. I don't get it.

>>9345001
Yet she or her friends tried to defend it as "there aren't that many ways to draw a cat, it's just a coincidence!" when her own art pages proved that she used to draw cats very differently. The denial was bizarre.
I don't even mind when artists explore different styles and try to emulate someone else who they admire for a while. But it's just scummy to then claim it as your own and try to profit from it.

>>9344998
Probably why some of the GALA people stopped uodating their shops. I know a few of them mainly did portrait brooches. A real shame. I liked some of theirs more than Mossbadger.

>>9344973
>"muh neon pirate zombie bats aesthetic"
Fucking kek. I wish cliche, hot topic tier themed prints got more hate on cgl. Ugly prints in general are destroying lolita imo.

>>9345031
If you aren't updating your store because of cgl drama that isn't directly related to you, I think you have larger problems as a small business

>>9344889
Girl from her comm here again. Paulina posts here all the time so I'm 100% sure it's her defending herself. She's been promoting her ugly ass new print all over facebook, too. She's an overly-confident ita making clothes for other itas.

>>9341026
aw thank you! i love making things directly for people and spent an eternity deciding for you, so i am glad it worked out

>>9341041
here is a link: https://www.etsy.com/teams/29727/gala-gothic-and-lolita-anonymous

the public threads are inactive but my dream is to post updates there when someone runs a promotion, or is at a convention, etc.

>>9344956
thanks for these tips. self-promotion is my #2 weakness

>>9344980
they have slowed down, but are still active. i noticed draw threads are also slower than usual, and there have been some selfpost style threads which had low or zero participation from the jfash side of the board. i think jfash seagulls are going through a shyness phase

>>9345031
updating my shop is my #1 weakness but it is not related to anything which has happened on 4chan. i think some of us are busy with dayjobs/school - activity peaked around summertime iirc

>>9344103
Have to agree, they've gone down in quality and 3/5 of my more recent purchases haven't been true to color at all making them useless for the coords I planned to pair them with.

>>9345200
np! Being good at self-promotion is the only way I get sales.

If you are looking into doing conventions, I suggest joining Artist Alley Network International. Lots of great help there. They also allow self promotion on sundays, and I've gotten multiple sales and fans that way

>>9344973
The solids take way too much time and rarely sell well. People don't want to pay for basic stuff.
Starting with prints makes a lot more sense if you're coming into design with a graphics or art background, or if you hire/collab with someone who has a graphics or art background.

Though I see some people trying to do custom prints by themselves with no art background wasting a ton of money all the time.

>>9345020
I feel like you have to be trying really dang hard to copy a drawing of a white cat since it's so generic and somehow HBJ managed to do it. Obvs copy.

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>>9344281
The joke is to completely rip off an existing logo almost 1:1? I think it would have been more tasteful to do something still identifiable but more "inspired by" or more of an artists interpretation of the existing logo

>>9345262
>The joke is to completely rip off an existing logo almost 1:1
yes? wtf would anyone want "tastefully adjusted so anyone's feelings" logos with "brand whore" stamped on them.

the point is that you think it's a brand logo until you look closer.

>>9344968
anon, that's HBJ white knighting because they copied pepfox, not the other way around

>>9344978
Semi offtopic too hjb. I'm an indie creator and I would never advertise on cgl .Seems like a bad idea and a bad business move.

>>9345230
Different anon here. Your tips are a lifesaver to someone who hates managing social media.

>>9345284
It's incredibly time consuming to manage everything, but incredibly necessary. If you can manage social media well, you can sell well, even with only ok products (as is seen with myself, lol).

Additional tips I forgot to mention earlier:
If you are bad at talking yourself up for self-promotion, get a friend to help you point out the strengths of your products.

Tumblr is a waste of time (unless you have something auto-post to it).

Instragram gets sales and more interactions-per-photo than other items. I haven't used an Instagram business account yet, so no idea on how that is vs personal accounts.

oh also, TAKE GOOD PHOTOS. My lighting setup cost me $15, and it's been incredibly worth it. You can make a legit lightbox for around that much as well (there's lots of tutorials).

I recommend investing in a DSLR, but if you can't afford that yet, get your lighting right and most newer cell phones will get good enough product photos to start.

>>9345296
Yeah I've managed a twitter account for a company before and that by itself took at least a couple hours of my day (and sowed my hate for social media in general).

What would you say are the most effective channels for promotion? I know Facebook gets you great conversions, but was wondering about getting sponsored posts by 'influencers'.

>>9345262
lots of parody products do this, it's protected under Fair Use i believe

>>9345262

do you have a learning disability by chance?

>>9345303
Instagram appears to be the best, but it's better to do all of them if you can.

I'm currently avoiding twitter because it seems like a cesspool of hate.

I don't know anything about getting sponsored by 'influencers', and I'm also looking more into it. I few people I consider minor influencers bought items from me, so I'm hoping they'll do CoF posts and tag me.

I found that just regular customers posting reviews of my stuff helps a lot. I recently sold an item because a customer posted a phone pic of the item. She only had a few hundred friends on facebook, but hey, got me a sale!

The only thing that's been reliably multiple sales for me so far is Lolita Updates.

>>9345272
Realized that after I reread it, first time I heard about the drama and confused the two ob

>>9345393
I want to post my shop there, but at the same time kind of afraid of whoring my shit out. Just feels dirty.

>>9346294
Please post your stuff! I really want to support indie artists for my lolita accessories, and I troll through IG to find cute new things. Its not whoring, its advertising.

>>9346294
Don't do it, it's a trap

>>9346294
I think that the whole 'artists should be pure and if you make money or market you're a sell out' thing is bull. I love seeing art and artists post their stuff! How else are we going to get to see your things?

If you want to be successful, you've got to self-promote.I know it may seem scary, but you gotta do it~

>>9346294
You should post some of the stuff you made. I love when people post things they are working on, and sometimes people give good advice on improvement.

>>9346294
Honestly you have nothing to lose. Anyone who wouldn't purchase from you because of a little seagull drama isn't your target customer anyways.

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>>9346351
I'm mentioned in some of the posts already, and I'll wait until my store is properly stocked up this time. I keep promising updates but life keeps getting in the way. I have some new things along my aesthetic that I'm pretty sure is original, but wouldn't be surprised if it's been done before.

>>9346437
That framed skeleton x girl thing is really cute! Is that a necklace or brooch? Is that from your brand or someone else's?

>>9346444
I have permission to use it from an artist! A customer actually obtained it for me. She''ll be getting a couple of these for free. A little slip with that and a link to his gallery will be sent with each piece. Most of my secret santas will be getting a variant of it. I mean, rather late because of life problems. But still.

>>9346444
Oh, and it's a brooch but I can make a necklace version easily. I have a nice shade of pearl powders that matches the fram to that common bronze-gold most charms and chains come in. Looks goood with gothic stuff.

>>9346437
You're DreamCathedral, right? That skeleton frame is lovely! Can't wait to see your update!

>>9346437
Hold the phone
That cross in the top right....are these see thru?

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>>9346437
Man I always love seeing your stuff.

I ended up ordering some frame molds but haven't used them for any projects yet.

I've been selling some simple resin pins at con. People seem to like the shell with bow so I'm currently coming up with ideas to make them a little more interesting. I want to order some ring blanks too.

>>9346437
I've been stalking your shop for awhile now. Can't wait for the new update. And I wouldn't worry too much about being "different". It's better to focus on refining your aesthetic.

>>9346457
It'll happen someday.

>>9346459
Yeah. I wanted them to be like actual windows, so after no luck of finding stained glass stickers, I got some special sheets to print what I wanted on. Dabbed my molds into paint and made an impression on paper, and scanned that in to get the proper shape and size I needed to make a template. Some will be window like, some like the bottom have holo white fine or starry glitter behind them so the details can be seen against black, which I imagine most coords that could use these will be.

>>9346464
These are really cute! I love the shells. Maybe add a dangly pearl for extra pizzaz! I just did a decently sized order from Miniaturesweet's website. The silver ring blanks are pretty cheap right now, but they've also got some ring molds too. Kind of hoping to start making some generic cute things like that to have something for everyone at cons and vendor faires.

>>9346472
>Miniaturesweet's website

Thanks for the site. I've bookmarked them. I recently picked up some small flat back pearls, stars, etc.... at a swapmeet. I also have the molds to make tiny hearts, candy, music notes, and such like in my picture. I lucked out and found someone selling a handful of them at a swapmeet. I'll keep the dangly pearl in mind.

>>9346492
Another thing that's cool is brushing slight hints of pearl powder into the mold where highlights would be. Like a green or pink sheen!

>>9346472
I don't think you should tell people how you make things or they're just gonna steal them and sell them from under you.

>>9346613
People would figure out how to reproduce anything anon. That's how competitive markets work.

>>9346613
Cause copying worked out so well for hbj...

>>9346613
I like sharing how I do stuff, and it doesn't necessarily mean they're going to emulate what I did exactly. It's a neat technique and I'd like to see what other people do with it too.

>>9346453
how many people are waiting on you for SS? is it the cgl one or something else?

So when it comes to indie brands what does everyone prefer; Ones that have a relatively consistent style or aesthetic, or ones that offer a wide range of styles or aesthetics?

I feel like I tend to struggle with wanting to make a bit of everything, but also feel like that would end up making things harder to market.
How did those of you with your own shops pick what you wanted to make and stick with it?

>>9346742
Too many. The cgl one. I know I'll end up a greylist for super late presents, so I probably won't enter it again. I just got railroaded with life stuff on top of half the things I ordered for them never showing up.

>>9346765
As a buyer, I don't really care as long as you have something I like. I will say that I tend to be turned off by a store front that has lots of "kawaii" things (I'm a classic and gothic lolita) so if I see lots of sparkles and pink I probably won't dig for the elegant jewelry you may have for me.

>>9346437
your stuff is really special.
your construction looks good and the pieces are innovative. I'm especially loving the window thing you are doing.

this has been said, but a lot of indie people try to get by just making trendy things that look cute from far away. I greatly prefer detailed pieces that are polished and from thought out designs. I love accessories that look good on their own because they always elevate a coord.

I am definitely a new fan of yours.
p.s. the wine portrait brooch is so damn lovely

>>9346767
a lot of us are waiting for gifts still so knowing you are sending them out would be a morale boost! especially knowing that you are a frequent seagull with a rep at stake.

>>9346613
they posts in the resin general, which means I assume they like talking about crafting as a hobby and not just an income source. I would never copy their design--it's not even my style--but I can think of a few projects I want to try with that technique soon. not everyone is in it for the money anon.

>>9346765
As a shopper I prefer brands with a some sort of consistent look simply because I know who to go to for what thing. that doesn't mean I would discount a brand that makes, say, sparkle hime phone cases and I am darkness I am the night hats, as long as I know I can consistently find that look with their brand. does that make sense?

>>9346437
Your stuff is lovely! Your things remind me a little bit of Mossbadger and VoodooDolly, but in an interesting way. Definitely original.

I'm not sure if Lolita Collective is taking new designers or not right now, but you should send them an email and see if they will carry your stuff. They are fantastic to work with and only take 25% consignment, which is incredibly low for the retail standard. They have sold a ton of my things for me.

>>9346472
You could try buying a stock image of stainedglass from a stock image site and then layering it with Holo paper from Hobby Lobby.

>>9346765
I don't really know from a consumer side, but from a designer side, becoming known for doing one thing really well gets you more sales/popularity.

However, on the other side of that, it is incredibly hard to make a living catering to the lolita crowd alone, so you may want to be more diverse in your products so that you have more people to sell to.

>>9346437
>DreamCathedral
Gave your shop a quick glance, and holy cow your prices are way too low. Low prices actually make people less likely to buy, because if you don't value your item, why should they?

I used to do this too. I had bracelets marked for $10 that nowadays I'd sell for $25. Never sold a thing when I was priced low.

>>9347631
What would you price them at?

>>9347649
The mushroom earrings I'd say $8-$12 USD, but definitely not lower than $6 USD. I also recommend using surgical steel earring hooks/pins if you aren't already. Then you can advertise them as hypoallergenic.

Brooches with resin work should start at $10 USD (Mossbadger's are $15 for reference)

The domed brooches are priced ok (though I'd also recommend upping to $10 and using a two-way pin/clip backing). Also if you are resin-casting those domes, you can save yourself time, money, and effort by buying pre-made glass cabochon ovals/domes.

>>9347654
Whoops, my b Mossbadger's are 10$-30$

>>9344126
>>9344180
>>9344182
I thought Pepfox was using resin to coat pieces?

>>9347662
They apparently switched to modpodge or some shit after one of their workers developed a resin allergy. They had to switch materials.

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>>9347662
>>9347664

>>9347666
>water resistant gloss

Doesn't sound very water resistant to me.

>>9347664
>developed a resin allergy
Uhhh what.
Sounds to me they just had enough fucking with resin stuff and decided to get the process easier.

>>9346765
I prefer a consistent aesthetic or theme. A shop with a bunch of styles all over the place reads to me as immature in their art style or possibly low in quality. Find your style or aesthetic, and make it consistent. This is how you start building a brand, following a consistent theme and making your style recognizable. Even with indie brands, say the name "Moss Marchen" or "Moon Bunny" and I already have an idea in my head of what to expect, if that makes sense.

>>9347686
It's a really common thing to develop an allergy because of overexposure, especially things that create fumes. Happens to hairdressers with hairdye all the time.

>>9347686

You can get resin hypersensitivities. For this to develop though, resin needs to have contact with skin, which is why it's important to wear gloves when dealing with resin.

Mildly interesting case study for the scientifically inclined: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9034685

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>>9342492
She currently working on a coffin bag and I think it's super cute.

>>9346437
I'm going to be honest with you, I don't like your product photos. The backgrounds you use are too busy and the products get lost in that busyness. You should be using natural lighting, it looks like your lighting right now is from a desk lamp. These elements combined don't make your products look good, if I were just scrolling through Etsy I would skim right over this. There isn't anything that really grabs me about your work as it stands right now, and I can see you easily getting lost in a sea of other portrait brooches or cameos.

Also, I agree with the other anon, you are pricing your items too low. I know you want to price your items to appeal to people, but like they said, too low and it comes off like you don't value your work yourself.

My advice to you is as follows: take better photos, price your items better, do something that makes your items stand out (and this might mean doing something other than portrait brooches), and don't rely on cgl for self promotion and sales. It might be nice to see people here buy your items, but the pool of people here is actually very small. Outside of cgl I wouldn't have heard of your shop and in my normal day to day shopping online I would pass right over your shop.

>>9347686
Resin and E6000 allergies are a legitimate thing. It's really more of a sensitivity than not, resin when mixed before it sets releases a lot of nasty fumes (as does E6000). It's completely legitimate.

>>9347778
So if anyone is worried, the best way to work with resin is to wear a mask (not one of those cheap ones made for particulates, but a mask made for paint/fumes that has a good seal around your nose and mouth). Work in a well ventilated area and consider using a fan to circulate air. Also wear gloves.

>>9347705
I do agree about the photos, though I think these are ok for starting out, if there's no budget for a lighting setup. I use a basic lighting set-up I made, 2 Ikea swivel lamps, black fabric background, couple of jewelry display items that were cheap. Having some 3D elements/depth to your photos help a lot. Probably spent $25 USD total.

Natural lighting can too harsh and dependant on the weather.

I do have a DSLR though, which helps, and photo-editing skills.

>>9347791
Even if you don't have any money for a lighting set up, natural light is going to look leagues better than artificial light from ikea lamps. Try taking photos right by a window in the day time (not direct light).

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>>9347654
Thank you. I will definitely reconsider my prices. They do seem like a bit more on my end because I view stuff in Canadian dollars and our dollar is shitty. I just guess I kept it low to have a nice alternative for Canadian and Aussie gulls. They're the vast majority of my buyers.

>>9347705
I definitely appreciate your input. I am notoriously bad at photography, with my sad little camera phone. Though my shop hasn't seen much of it yet, I've been branching out from just portraits. I hope my stained glass cross rings and pendants will become a hit.

>>9347800
You know you can get natural light spectrum bulbs right? Also that lightboxes are the standard for this sort of thing?

Natural light is better than a regular desk lamp or typical indoor lighting, but it is not better than high wattage bulbs with proper set up.

>>9347808
You should definitely invest in getting a better lighting system (seconding the lightbox) but I have to say that I'd probably buy your stuff as it is with your shitty photographs. That cross is really pretty!

>>9347822
Looks even better in person, the glitter shines different colours as it catches the light. I went and bought excess amounts of this glitter because I love it so much. Out of curiousity, what would you reccomend pricing it as? It's an adjustable ring.

>>9347817
I'm not disagreeing with you. If budget is the problem, natural light is a good option. Soft boxes and lights are specifically made with photography in mind, ikea lamps not so much.

>>9347662
It was one of my resin pieces that got water damage

>>9347835
you are aware they said they made a lighting set-up with ikea lamps, right? and that they used natural lightig bulbs with it? the ikea lamp person is not dreamcathedral

>sorry to swoop in on your discussion but poor reading comprehension rustles my jimmies

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>>9347834
I'd happily pay $20-30 CAD before shipping, but would still probably go up to $40 if I really liked the design.

>>9347896
Wow. To think I was going to go with $12 CAD.

>>9347918
Your work is worth so much more than that! That ring is especially unique and cute.

>>9347702
that jsk tho
>square bodice
>straps falling down

nice

>>9347896
Don't lie like that anon, it's really cruel. The ring is cute but not $30 CAD cute.

>>9347654
Honestly I agree with these prices the most.

>>9347918
Aim higher than 12 CAD. High teens and low twenties. Thirty is a bit steep. 19.99 CAD would straddle the line of looking good to Canadians and being fairly priced.

>>9347989
I agree with this

>>9347989
>>9348001
3rd'd as an ozzy

Anyone know why PepFox ships via Singapore Post? Are the items (or at least accessories) actually made in Singapore?

>>9347808

I use a lightbox I got on Amazon for $12, but that being said, your stuff is very good already. I'd still buy it even with not so good photos.

>>9346437
>tfw agree your stuff could sell for more but hope you have a gull discount/keep it low because I'm poor

Custom/portrait requests soon please anon

>>9347702
The bag looks nice but why make something that already has like 5 versions, from brand to swimmer to taobao. I wouldn't want to buy something like that when I have so many other options.

>>9349185
Probably the same reason people keep making heart shaped bags - people like them.

The brand and swimmer ones I've seen have derp coffin shapes. There's some cute taobao and gothic brand ones though.

>>9349185
Because they usually have different designs on them. This one doesn't have engrish like the brand ones, doesn't look stupid like the swimmer one, appears to be decent quality and is going to have multiple hooks to wear it in different styles.

Who was that designer with the actual food accessories? I want to find that thread in the archives and read through it again.

>>9348821
Their products are still made in their Aus studio, it's just a heck of a lot cheaper than using Aus Post. Buy using SingPost international shipping prices are almost halved to what they would be otherwise.

>>9349426
I remember the art that came from the cookie.

I've made some resin pins with candy in them. Usually nerds. I always tell my customers that the candy is real. It's kind of funny when they ask if they can get the candy out.

>>9349482
Mmm, resin coated candy, just what I wanted for breakfast.

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o wow look, another total rip off

>>9351585
Wow. Now that is shitty. A rip off of a rip off.
And a bad one at that.

>>9351585
Ew, who is making this? Name and shame.

>>9349162
Custom portraits are always available! Just message me and ask.

Also, I don't have a lightbox yet, but I got some jewelry display boxes for potential vendoring down the line. Here's a WIP of a brooch I'm doing. I need to put something over that loop tail. Might paint the flowers on the deer that same brassy gold.

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>>9351662
And then I remembered how to post a pic.

>>9351585
Doesn't this count as a parody? It would be a rip off if it said Angelic Pretty, or if the Baby-styled pin >>9341290 actually emulated their logo, but neither design does that.
I do think it's a bit tacky to walk around with "Brand Whore" or anything of the sort as a part of your coord (and honestly nothing screams "brand whore" louder than actual brand jewelry) but I wouldn't call these rip offs or replicas.

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>>9351595
https://www.instagram.com/daily.gems.shop/?hl=en

>>9351692
It does but its just lame since >>9341296 Already did a similar idea.

But also personally I find it doubly shitty and not artistic at all. Any idiot can vector over an already existing artwork and put in different text. They also have pic related in their store which is essentially theft of a pre-existing photo of Misako. It'd be like saying its OK for anyone to take ANY google image and add text, and bam its "totally" transformed.

>>9351706
Oh, was >>9351585 done by someone else? I thought it was another version done by the same seller.
Either way, these don't bother me personally for reasons I stated in my other comment but I completely understand people's discomfort with these designs, and I agree that selling the Misako pin is sketchy.

>>9351715
I think the second one bothers me more. The first one is an obvious parody and using a common phrase(brand whore) the second one is an obvious knock off of the first parody idea and is just trying to make easy money off the idea I don't think I've ever heard people call themselves or other's a brand bitch.

>>9351706
>https://www.instagram.com/daily.gems.shop/?hl=en
Oh damn, I actually liked some of her shit before but that is unfortunate.

>>9341296
They should do a bodyline one that says "poor fuck"

Does anyone else get offended when indie designers try to make money off of their designs? Like it's so obvious they're being try hards.

>>9351823
It should just say ITA inside of the bodyline logo

>>9346437
This... doesn't look good, I'm sorry.

>>9346444
>>9346457
>>9346468

Could you samefag any harder? You're not fooling anyone.

>>9351664
I'm going to give you some concrit as another resin artist.

The main deer piece needs to have the excess resin trimmed from the back and sides. You can see where the resin poured over the mold and wasn't cleaned up.

The main frame would look better if it contrasted more with the color of the deer. The two of them being the same color isn't attractive.

The surface of the frame looks really bubbly towards the bottom right corner. Use a lighter over your resin to help the bubles pop.

Pro: the gold parts look pretty good.

Good luck.

>>9351825
Literally everything should be free then? Go fuck yourself. People like you are the reason Trump was elected.

>>9351825
They should just start a Patreon like everyone else

>>9341290
I really can only see a uterus with an IUD or a tampon hanging out when I look at this

>>9347631
Just took a look and honestly the prices are fine considering how amateur it is.

>>9351825
I feel like things that indie artists make should be almost free, becuase it's like they're giving back to the community then

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>>9351836

>>9351836
I have to agree, I'm tired of seeing this shitty pin everywhere on instagram and facebook. The design is stupid and I hope they get sued.

>>9351843
Maybe Deerstalker will sue them since they were the first to do the "brand whore" merchandise

>>9351843
>if you discredit us we must sue
RIP

>>9351840
I tried calling this telephone number but nothing happened

>>9351845
I might just drop Deerstalker pictures a line and see if they're interested. Just so happens I specialize in international copyright law.

>>9347808
This looks like a mess. Please don't try to sell this.

>>9351857
I think it's just the bad picture?

>>9351861
The glitter isn't even, the colors are a total mess and don't go together, it simultaneously looks rusty and moldy. She should not try to sell this item.

>>9351861
was the picture taken on a flip phone or

>>9351863
You need to get your vision checked, it doesn't look bad at all.

>>9351863
The beauty is in the chaos, anon.

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>>9351869
>>9351870
>this sad attempt at defending yourself

>>9351863
>the colors are a total mess and don't go together
But it's a rainbow?

>>9351874
Have you ever seen a rainbow? Asking seriously now.

>>9351874
Girl you need to learn to take concrit. Especially considering how much you flaunt yourself at being great at resin.

>>9351871
I'm not even her. Nice try.

>>9351870
Look, I'm sorry people don't like your speshul resin creation, but you're not helping yourself in this thread right now.

>>9351879
I bet you like Kawaii Goods too.

>>9351883
What's wrong with Kawaii Goods?

>>9351879
Alright, so a friend white knighting, big improvement. Tell your friend not to quit her day job.

>>9351885
Nothing's wrong with Kawaii goods, I'm tired of this fucking meme

>>9351891
Yeah I love shitty things made by mail order bride who talks trash about everyone around her

>>9351845
Deerstalkers doesn't own the brand whore tag. It existed well before their videos. How are you going to copyright memes which everyone uses online?

>>9351901
You don't understand protected vs fair use, do you

>>9351863
It actually looks really pleasant in person! The resin ends up looking like a soft pink tone just from all of the light reflecting off the glitter. Even if I didn't have a shit camera, it can't really be captured.

>>9351878
I'm always open to concrit. I'm no expert and don't claim to be great at anything, just always trying new things. Any suggestions for >>9351664 ?

>>9351888
>Tell your friend not to quit her day job.
RIP

>>9351941
Don't listen to cgl. I doubt any of them actually have money to buy your shit anyways. Don't waste your time.

>>9351948
>whiteknight intensifies

>>9351948
My shit is pretty cheap apparently.

>>9351941
If it looks awful in photos how am I supposed to believe it will look better in real life?

>>9351941
>Any suggestions for >>9351664 ?
You got one here and you ignored it.

>>9351829

>>9351941
Hey btw how are you doing on getting your secret santa gifts out lmao

>>9351954
"Shit" is right, desu

Savage.

>>9347808
The concept here is good (if boring) but the execution isn't. The multicolored glitter isn't good, it's better to pick a color scheme and stick to it. For instance if the main cross was all red glitter or all just solid red. The rainbow colors make it looks tacky.

Again, you need to trim the excess off the back and work on the bubbles. The gold piece looks kind of strange, was it a premade piece or is it resin you cast?

>>9351986
this is the cause of the dream cathedral hate, these threads have been chill and people have enjoyed her stuff up till now. i would suggest ignoring the avalanche of salt

>>9352003
>grinches 6 people out of christmas presents
>"its just salt guise"

>>9352003
I feel bad for anyone who gets her as their secret santa. Imagine waiting for months only to get moldy resin.

>>9351825

g8 b8 m8

>>9351986
>>9352008
Wouldn't wanna wait for months but I was hoping I would get any of the resin gen gulls. I didn't :(

>>9352003
I didn't even know about the secret santa grinching until this thread? Bruh it just doesn't look good.

Will we have a new thread?

>>9351857
Thank you!

>>9352036
>I was hoping I would get any of the resin gen gulls. I didn't :(

I was too busy to participate in last year's secret Santa. But I wanted to do one in the future, like white day or maybe next year's secret Santa. But after the unorganozation of SS/white day I won't be participating in white day this year either... sorry anon, I really wanted to send people some cute stuff.
> :(

>jelly ultra here btw
>I stopped using cgl for quite a few months but recently I've been semi-lurking

>>9347837
Why? What happened? I mean, it's resin for god's sake, it should be quite water-resistant when it finally hardens.

>>9352741
I think it soaked through the wood. It's not completely coated in resin.

>>9352752
But that should be a lot more than just few raindrops then, one doesn't usually wear jewelry inside out. And if there was a lot of water, then welp, it's not really Pepfox's fault. You can ruin almost any jewelry with hundreds of ways.

>>9352807
I wasn't the one that said it was only a few drops. Mine got wet and got water damage. I was just agreeing that it can happen.